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<v Speaker 1>The control group contains scenes of realistic violence and graphic sexuality.

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<v Speaker 1>It is intended for mature listeners. Eaton County Sheriff's Office.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Ken Bailey at the Dixie Hotel over on

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<v Speaker 1>the Highway twenty nine. We've um there's there's been an accident.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, one of our guests has fallen from a

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<v Speaker 1>window under the pool day. How far did he fall?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a man or woman? Man? He fell from

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<v Speaker 1>her over room. He was on the fifth floor, five twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>We're sending an ambulance now, the best to first available

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<v Speaker 1>rescue to the Dixie Motel on twenty nine cars in

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<v Speaker 1>the vicinity. Are you there, Ken? Yes? My Now do

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<v Speaker 1>you know the victim's name? Yes, I with. We looked

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<v Speaker 1>in his wallet. I hope that's fine, Ken, but trying

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<v Speaker 1>not to move him or otherwise. Grand from Columbus. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he responsive all right? Yes? To see. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's all right. That's why he took his wallet. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he fell from the fifth floor. What did he land on?

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<v Speaker 1>The pool deck? The metal lunge chair. When you say

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<v Speaker 1>pool deck, what is that exactly? It's concrete, but the

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<v Speaker 1>pool deck, it's concrete. Fifth floor onto concrete. Just ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Did he jump or fall? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any way of knowing why? I don't think he didn't fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how. What do you mean? Okay? Ken?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you with me? Because he he came through his window,

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<v Speaker 1>through the glassy, through the glass curts. Have you been

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<v Speaker 1>conscious at any time? Have you been able to get

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<v Speaker 1>any information from him? No? I don't think I came

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<v Speaker 1>to ask him what happened. He tried up all night.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold the line please, David. Three. I'm in the southwest corner.

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<v Speaker 1>You might want to tend five the sergeant. Come have

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<v Speaker 1>a look at this Ali by the parking grash. Bring

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<v Speaker 1>the night manager if he's around. It was up. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your guy? Barred all the doors? Got someone in the

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<v Speaker 1>stairwell ground level. I want to get out. He saw

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<v Speaker 1>the lights stuck back in. Did you get a look

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<v Speaker 1>at him? No? They're lying low. Okay, good. Hey he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks we got somebody trapped in the stairwell. Hey Ken, Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>could they get back into the hotel. No, these are

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<v Speaker 1>fire escapes, so they lock on all the floors except

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<v Speaker 1>the lobby. No roof access, no soon any place that

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<v Speaker 1>could be hidening in there. On this level, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>stairwell going down, but it dead ends on a basement

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<v Speaker 1>door two floors down. What are we waiting on on?

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<v Speaker 1>Jam the door and let's go take him. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think we ought to you? Over there? Hands where I

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<v Speaker 1>can see him. Don't move, I wasn't doing hands against

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<v Speaker 1>the wall. I'm just trying to leave there. She goes there,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes her hands up. You're goddamn hand off of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard him. Just relax and do as you're told. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing anything. Tell me, don't touch me. You

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<v Speaker 1>just don't touch me, Steve. You want to give me

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<v Speaker 1>a hand here? You don't need his help. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell me what it is you want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm perfectly willing to answer your questions. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to force me. Put your heads on the wall. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to the person in charge. Grab her

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<v Speaker 1>other arm's not gonna listen. Stop it. You can't touch me.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have the rights. You hear that, Steve, She

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<v Speaker 1>says we can't touch her. Show us to regret this.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you going to arran? You do not have

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<v Speaker 1>the right to touch me? All right? Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, what's going on? I'm trying to Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Look look at my purse. There's a card with a

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<v Speaker 1>number on it. Call the number on the card. You

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<v Speaker 1>can call your lawyer. Want you're formally detained. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a lawyer. But it's so many good. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>fix all this, baby. President Kennedy himself couldn't get you

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<v Speaker 1>out of this fix unless you're renascent. And then what

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<v Speaker 1>do you gotta worry you? Really, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with. Hey, kid, why don't we start with

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<v Speaker 1>your name? Your name? All right? You hadgit chance. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming up, We're coming up. Authorities have released the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the man found dead on the night of

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<v Speaker 1>August fourteen at the Dixie Hotel in Birmingham. The party

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<v Speaker 1>was identified as that forty year old Ronald Grant, a

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<v Speaker 1>businessman from Columbus, Ohio. The police have released no further

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<v Speaker 1>details on the circumstances of Grant's death, pending a full investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>In world news, tensions continued amount over the isolation of

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet occupied East Germany, citing the failure to obtain a

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<v Speaker 1>peace treaty at the Vienna Summit. Premier Crucia has ordered

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<v Speaker 1>the closure of the Brandy. In the field of psychiatric medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an exciting time, a time of innovation and discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>a time when mental health institutions struggled to redefine themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>to become something more than repositories of the sick. Unorthodox

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<v Speaker 1>methods and aggressive therapies were not only permitted, but encouraged.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a record of that time. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>control group. Ye. This is admissions interview with patient Myers, Karen.

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<v Speaker 1>The date is September eight. Also present is ward head

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<v Speaker 1>nurse Virgery Will Burn. Hello, Karen, I'm gonna keep you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want to have a little chat. See how you're

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<v Speaker 1>settling that? Okay? Sure? H average weight right, well, appetite normal? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sleep okay. Well they brought me in at three a m.

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<v Speaker 1>And woke me up at seven. We'll call that and

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<v Speaker 1>though fair report from ward nurses socializing. What would you say?

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<v Speaker 1>Not much opportunity yet, doctor, but I will have Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>show her around the ward. Good girl, what can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about the circumstances that brought you here? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Why were you arrested? Listen, I'm innocent. This is all

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<v Speaker 1>just a bigness. And I didn't ask you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>innocent and guilty, that's for the court decide. I simply

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<v Speaker 1>asked why you were arrested. Okay, what was the charge? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this this guy had an accident and died. He killed himself,

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, they they don't want to call

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<v Speaker 1>it a suicide. Since I was there and I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw what happened. Um, and well they they're putting

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<v Speaker 1>the him on me and and they're trying to turn it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying they're trying to pin it and turn it

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<v Speaker 1>into something more serious. And I had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. I swear, sure enough. UM, so you understand

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<v Speaker 1>you're not here to be punished. Don't think of this

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<v Speaker 1>as incarceration. Does that mean I can leave. You're here

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<v Speaker 1>for examination and evaluation. Once you've settled, animal have another

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<v Speaker 1>chat and to term the best plane at treatment. Okay. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>This concludes admission interview for Myers Karen, Dr Hayes, Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so there's no doubt in your mind, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that I intend to cooperate with you

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<v Speaker 1>to the fullest. I appreciate that, Karen, and I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's required of me as long as it makes

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<v Speaker 1>better and brings me closer to being released. Least you

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<v Speaker 1>just got here. Besides which, Karen, you were put here

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<v Speaker 1>by the court. It's not only my decision when you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to be released. I mean, you make a recommendation,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you. I mean after the evaluation, after your evaluation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then well, I'm not asking for special treatment. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want something to work towards, you know, to show you

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<v Speaker 1>my willingness to cooperate. And in order to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to tell me, to show me what

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<v Speaker 1>it is you want me to do. Ms Myers, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I've seen your file. I know who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you are, and I assure you, why well,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever tricks you play with men on the outside, all

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<v Speaker 1>those tricks are not going to work here. What I

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<v Speaker 1>want is to see you free of the symptoms of

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<v Speaker 1>your particular illness and nothing more. I'm not thinking, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel perfectly well. We'll make a note of that

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<v Speaker 1>in your records and send you right back to the

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<v Speaker 1>course your before I judge in less than two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that sound. Yeah, So don't you get too comfortable here.

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<v Speaker 1>But while you're here, we ask for your cooperation and

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<v Speaker 1>expect to receive it. Is that clear? Yes, sir, you

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<v Speaker 1>may go and just second perjury. She shouldn't be here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no, she shouldn't. I'm supposed to not just

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<v Speaker 1>on top of everything else, drop everything, do a full

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<v Speaker 1>enny on a criminal case. I'm certain that's exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to dump her here in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night. Where are we on the morning schedule? We're set.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to go call an attendant from the

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<v Speaker 1>Men's war Bergery. Sir, this new girl, Karen, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>reason she should be treated any differently from the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get her ec T regiments started today. Don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think we should at least p we had our chat.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen what I needed to see very well. Dr Right,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, laz We'll be getting started shortly. You may

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<v Speaker 1>have nervously having resided on us. Her name is Karen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's her first day on the reward. Let's get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of some time to get interested in. It's Wednesday, the

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<v Speaker 1>third team of teniber and it's going to be that

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<v Speaker 1>glorious day. H Karen. Yeah, I'd like to introduce you

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<v Speaker 1>to Charlotte. Hello, Charlotte is one of the senior residents

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<v Speaker 1>here at New Canaan, and I'd like you to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a little time with her this morning. You just just

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<v Speaker 1>to help you get oriented. M would would you do

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<v Speaker 1>that for me? I guess good. Then I'll leave you

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<v Speaker 1>girls to it. Hi, Hi, you want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>little walk? Sure? Started. Well, this is the day ward

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<v Speaker 1>where you'll spend most of your time. Is this your

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<v Speaker 1>first time in an institution, Yeah it is. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>so bad, really, if you can just find something to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your mind occupied. You know, there's jigsaw puzzles, a

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<v Speaker 1>few games, there's some old magazine. Oh my god. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's look therapy once a day and E C T

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<v Speaker 1>three times a week. If you ever want to skip

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<v Speaker 1>the group, just say you have cramps and don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>up to it. They'll let you off. Just don't do

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<v Speaker 1>it too often. They'll start keeping track of your cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>No kidding. They have a little calendar for menstrual complainers.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? M hm? Oh? What else? We do?

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<v Speaker 1>Calisthenics in the sun room after breakfast. Yeah, I saw that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that just about sums it up. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do all day? We watch television, you're kidding. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock time for Women's World. It's our favorite. A flatter

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<v Speaker 1>form dress pattern made flatter's shapes looking high some of

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<v Speaker 1>those trouble spots you can't seem to get rid of.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I am hundreds of women have sworn by

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<v Speaker 1>this dress. Stop. I mean, we used to all have jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>They called it occupational therapy. That was cooking and sewing.

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<v Speaker 1>Buchanan even had its own lumber mill and apple orchard.

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<v Speaker 1>Our sider was the best in the state. But then

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<v Speaker 1>some do good or felt like the hospital was exploiting

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<v Speaker 1>the mentally ill, so they got rid of all the

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<v Speaker 1>work programs. So they took away our jobs. They took

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<v Speaker 1>away my garden. There's a greenhouse up by the founder's mansion,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't bear to look at it. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>me so sad. But we do. We do get to

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<v Speaker 1>watch television. I pretty still keep the doctor my rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's not in a participatory mood today. What's this? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>This is easy T Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Who's grath

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<v Speaker 1>He's the big fella there. He's an attendant from the

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<v Speaker 1>Men's Word. They bring him downstairs just to maintain order

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<v Speaker 1>on Easy T. Days. You're never allowed to be alone

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<v Speaker 1>with Grath why not? Well, that's the rules. And if

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<v Speaker 1>he ever tries to take you to a private place,

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<v Speaker 1>just one of the nurses. Really, Karen, don't be alone

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I was, I was. Oh, I'm sorry. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that hurts. I don't. I don't like the easy.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be what's going on? Don't be scared? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What what is easy? T Listen, Karen, You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to trust me, okay. Just you a brave girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even supposed to be here, Charlotte, It's okay, Grass,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to help the new girl relax. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking at? Deaf girl? Carol? Please come, I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>this for you. You've got nervous great hop up on

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<v Speaker 1>this journey and like back, yes, ma'am. Okay, can I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a question? Yeah? Answer to your side? And

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<v Speaker 1>do you have anything in your mouth? No, ma'am? What

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<v Speaker 1>is um? Life? Still? Please? What are you doing? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to feel a little cold on your temples?

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<v Speaker 1>What it? What is that? It's a conductant? That's all?

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<v Speaker 1>What is on this? Please? Karen give us a second? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Control Group is a production of How Stuff Works, written

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<v Speaker 1>and directed by Brett Wood, recorded and mixed by Rob

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