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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Tuesday, March thirty first, and

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Speaker 1: please please be kind to Christoan, her husband, and her

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Speaker 1: family right now. And with that, welcome to this episode

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Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ Brogue. This is not an episode

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Speaker 1: we were planning to do or would have done, had

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Speaker 1: Christinome just a little while ago put out a statement

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Speaker 1: responding to some pretty I guess, unbelievable, devastating in very

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Speaker 1: private revelations about her husband. But now that she's addressed it, Robue,

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Speaker 1: this has become a different type of story.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there are all sorts of rumors swirling about her husband,

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Speaker 2: and look, we would never have touched these. I don't

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Speaker 2: think I think it's fair to say with a ten

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Speaker 2: But this is about her husband, Brian, and.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps his well, go Ahead's it's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's it's difficult to try to describe because we debated,

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Speaker 1: how do you say this? It's okay? Accused of cross dressing.

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Speaker 2: Used in cross dressing, and having a bimbo fetish where

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Speaker 2: he apparently likes to dress with large boobs and share photos.

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Speaker 2: And these photos have been discovered and have been published

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Speaker 2: now and Yes, Christy Nome has responded to the photos

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Speaker 2: being published, the story being reported about her husband's sexual preferences.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's why I say be kind. I mean robes,

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Speaker 1: anything that comes, She's going to get attacked no matter what.

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Speaker 1: And something like this having to do with her family,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people would have smiles on their faces

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Speaker 1: and glad she's being to some degree humiliated. But we

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Speaker 1: just gotta be careful, and I would just say kind,

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Speaker 1: This is pretty tough stuff for a family to go through,

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Speaker 1: for your personal life, to be her own out in

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Speaker 1: comments that are coming obviously with us robes to a

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Speaker 1: certain degree, in a level there is no matter what,

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Speaker 1: a degree of sympathy for what is coming the Famili's way. Yes,

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Speaker 1: not just her and about politics. This is or can

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Speaker 1: be robes. This is private stuff that is now public

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of.

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Speaker 2: Devastating, yes, being made very very public, and of course

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Speaker 2: all coming within weeks of Christinoan being pushed out of

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security. So she loses her position in a very

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Speaker 2: public and I would say humiliating way apparently moments before

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Speaker 2: She had to make her way through this speech with

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Speaker 2: everyone reporting this breaking news that she's lost her job.

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Speaker 2: And yes, now this and this is her husband of many,

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Speaker 2: many years, This is a couple who married in nineteen

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Speaker 3: Helped me do that.

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Speaker 1: Last surprised to hear that, bab was that how many

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Speaker 3: Thirty four years?

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Speaker 1: I was very surprised to hear they've been married the.

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Speaker 2: Long thirty four years of marriage. They were high school

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Speaker 2: sweethearts in South Dakota. They worked together on her family's farm,

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Speaker 3: And then they went on.

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Speaker 2: To have three children who are now adults, Cassidy Kennedy

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Speaker 3: Two daughters and a son. And so yeah, kind of

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Speaker 2: All American farming family that is now in political power.

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Speaker 1: You have. I'm so sorry to put you on the

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Speaker 3: Now, yes, I actually do have that.

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Speaker 1: So Cassidy.

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Speaker 3: Cassidy is their oldest daughter. She's thirty one.

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Speaker 2: She's been involved in her mom political campaigns and in

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Speaker 2: just her professional life. She has children of her own,

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Speaker 2: so she Cassidy made Christy and her husband Brian grandparents.

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Speaker 2: Then their next youngest child, her name is Kennedy, and

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Speaker 2: she also served as a policy analyst in her mom's

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Speaker 1: How many do you say, one grandkid? Two?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many grandkids they have, but I

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Speaker 1: Yes, so we a story like this, and we're going

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Speaker 1: I know, I know social media, I know it's tough.

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Speaker 1: They are grandparents. I mean, they have kids, they have

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Speaker 1: It's just there's a whole community and family that's now

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Speaker 1: can be humiligating what you do behind closed doors. Knock

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Speaker 1: yourself out, fine, but something like this it's hard to take.

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Speaker 1: And I know people are taking joy in it. It's

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Speaker 1: just it just take no joy in something like this happening.

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Speaker 2: I think after everything we've been through, it was one

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Speaker 3: It's still you don't know what.

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Speaker 2: It actually feels like until you are at the center

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Speaker 2: it does to your parents, to your siblings, to your children,

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Speaker 3: You're outer circles.

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Speaker 2: This is something that is humiliating to an extension you

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Speaker 2: agree with Christy Nome's policies or even how she delivered

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Speaker 2: her policies, but she's still a human being, And I

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Speaker 2: just this is a moment I think where you can say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I just hate when people kind of jump on something

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Speaker 1: Les we should hold on to that. That's a great point,

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Speaker 1: Robes Away to put it. This is tragic on a

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Speaker 1: I don't it's hard to look at it at this

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Speaker 1: The stuff had kind of been out there and been

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Speaker 2: Miss Gnome is devastated. The family was blindsided by this,

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Speaker 2: and they asked for privacy and prayers at this.

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Speaker 1: Time, and that was it. That was it, they acknowledged, right,

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Speaker 1: But what I mean, you can I mean, that could

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Speaker 1: there's some things they could have said that they didn't say.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So just to even acknowledge she's devastated means obviously

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Speaker 1: Well, I will stop at the she was the first thing.

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Speaker 1: She's devastated that period after this period period, Okay, she's

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Speaker 1: devastated by what though, you really can make the argument

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Speaker 1: she's devastated that this is out. She's devastated because she

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Speaker 1: on social media. What exactly she devastated by That's how

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Speaker 2: Okay, then the family was blindsided by this, by this

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Speaker 2: But that's what you have to do in this point,

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Speaker 2: at this point with that ambiguous response this, But you

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Speaker 2: these photos that we're seeing of him cross dressing and

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Speaker 2: the allegations that are now out there with photographic evidence.

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Speaker 1: See, I am looking and reading this so differently. I

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Speaker 1: am looking and reading to this as they left an

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Speaker 1: opening here for him to be not guilty. They're leaving

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Speaker 1: it open. They're not actually saying he did any of this.

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Speaker 1: She didn't say she's devastated to learn of her husband's behavior.

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Speaker 1: He's just saying she's devastated. They could leave room here

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Speaker 1: can't believe she has been betrayed, can't believe they could

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Speaker 3: You're correct, I mean, yes you are. And look, that

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Speaker 2: This has been carefully and specifically crafted through a pr

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, though, ro someone who knows a lot more

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Speaker 2: make sense that you leave openings to have different outcomes

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Speaker 2: based on what you need them to be, based on

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Speaker 1: Devastated by blank, blindsided by this which is blank. That

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Speaker 1: is really interesting when you dive into these things. However, folks,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how deep of a dive Robes necessarily did.

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Speaker 1: But there's this term I never heard before today, bembo fication.

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Speaker 1: Do I have that right, Robes?

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Speaker 1: All right, well stay here, we'll try to explain what

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ,

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Speaker 2: where we are talking about former Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 2: Secretary Christy Noome dealing with some pretty horrific headlines about

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Speaker 2: her husband today, a lot of folks saying that he

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Speaker 2: is a secret cross dresser who has a bimbo fication fetish,

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Speaker 2: and she has directly addressed some of these reports by

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Speaker 2: saying she's devastated.

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Speaker 1: I consider something here. Is it devastating that people are

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Speaker 1: into whatever they're into. It's just that people found out

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Speaker 1: about it, and now it's supposed to be embarrassing if

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Speaker 1: this worked for them in their private lives. I mean

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Speaker 1: to make it, what business is it. I'm not mad

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Speaker 1: that he does whatever he wants to do in his

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Speaker 1: then okay, But that's for them to suss out.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, and for her to say that she was

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Speaker 1: Again, I look at it. She possibly could saying she's

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Speaker 3: So here's the weird thing.

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Speaker 2: So if you look up what bimbofication is, it's basically

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Speaker 3: She was literally called obviously ice Barbie.

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Speaker 3: That kind of a thing. But like, yeah, Barbie.

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Speaker 1: No one takes joy in that. And if you are,

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Speaker 3: So people might want to.

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Speaker 3: This is an opportunity not to return fire.

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Speaker 3: And this is an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that feel better? If you think she has wronged

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Speaker 2: That's what we need, right, Someone has to start it,

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Speaker 2: they're actually the happier person.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hurt, people hurt, So try to remember.

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Speaker 2: That, all right, without everyone, We always appreciate you listening

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Speaker 2: to us. I made me robot alongside DJ Holmes. We

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