1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: with on our radio. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous Podcast. We're here to break down episode 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: three of Bachelor and Paradise, the horniest episode ever to me, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: put on family friendly television. Ashley, you have a lot 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: of thoughts about this episode. 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, I really liked the episode, but the word horny, 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: I've never liked it, Like even when I figured out 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: what it meant in seventh grade, I was like, Oh, 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't like this word. I don't know. It's like 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: visual like to me, I feel like I could like 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: see somebody actually like turned on, like I can see 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: their privates. All right, Yeah, I like it, not into 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: the word because I just feel like, yeah, it's like 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: a lot. So definitely you're. 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: Kind of blushing. Does it make you blush when you 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: hear it? 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: No, I like, I think it's actually like a I 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: don't like it. It's a gross, like cheap way of 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: saying turned on. 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: It's like how some people uh to moist. Yeah, it's 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: like kind of like the same visual, same idea. 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: I get it. Ashley. You started out here just a 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: second ago saying you have a lot of thoughts in 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: the episode as do. I let's dive into it. You know, 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: we're gonna start it out talking about this Justin and Susie. 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: Situation, which did you see breaking news? Yeah, they just 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: went back and forth on Instagram. 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: So I think the only way to accurately cover what 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: happened actually in Paradise, and if somebody wants to know how, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: I believe. I don't know anymore, but I would believe 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: that the show is still fairly unscripted. It's all unscripted, 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: but it is definitely produced. This is a good example 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: of it because we're getting a behind the scenes glimpse 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: ashlely as you pull up the text conversation or the 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: Instagram conversation that Lexi and Justin have had publicly first 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: all to witness here just recently. I want to say this, 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: I think the show made a massive mistake here. I 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: don't understand what the show is doing. I am getting 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: more invested into Paradise, but I do want to talk 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: to you for a second before we talk about Justin 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: Suzie LEXI that I think the show has missed the mark. 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: And if I was in production, and I think the 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: product producers of the past would have made sure this 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: never happened. I don't know why these contestants that are 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: coming to the beach are not given necessarily opportunity to 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: connect with anybody. It feels impossible to come to the 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: beach and to make any sort of real connection, to 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: stick around at all. My second thought to that is, 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter as much if it wasn't Susie. Susie 52 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: is one of the reasons I wanted to watch Paradise 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: or Justin's dynamic for the next few weeks on how 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: they navigated being a couple, breaking up publicly, being beloved 55 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: by so many us, being around them, loving them, thinking 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: they're both great and really get together. Uh, and then 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: both being on the beach, which feels like a home 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: run for the show to get feels like a home 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: run to convince them both to show up again. And 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: now Susie's gone after a few short scenes and moments. 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: And even in those short scenes and moments, she created 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: a story that we will talk about for the rest 63 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: of the season. How did they let her go go 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: home so fast? 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: It is so weird. My only thought is that something 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: went awry and they figured it out like they wanted 67 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: him to give Susie the rose and then they and 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: Susie did look flabbergasted that he decided to do that. 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: My thought was that maybe you know, you know, guys, 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: when we speak about this, we're talking about how it's 71 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: like high level produced where it's like they have a 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: plan but like some but sometimes like they can't go, 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: like their plan just doesn't work out. So I think 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 3: that what production wanted to happen was that Susie did 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: except Justin's rose, and then the two of them would 76 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: have stayed in Paradise together and we would have continued 77 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: to see relationships happen between the two of them and 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: between the you know, between the two of them and outwardly. 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: I my favorite parts of this whole week were the 80 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: conversations between Justin and Susie, because there are between two 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: people that knew each other so deeply and you could 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: tell love each other so deeply. 83 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: I still think Justin's in love with Susie. I don't 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: know how she feels about it. 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: Actually I don't know, no, but I have heard that 86 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: Susie is the heartbroken one in this relationship, that he 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: was the one that broke up with her again. I 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: don't even remember the source so it might just be 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: total hearsay and watching the show, I also interpreted it 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: like she was the heartbroken one you thought otherwise, or 91 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: you just still think that he's in love with her. 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: I just think I think it just based on life. 93 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: I guess I'm not like pulling back moments from the show. 94 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: I could be completely wrong there. Either way, this was 95 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: a storyline to keep me watching every week. I'm going 96 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: to keep watching every week. It's not like I don't 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: like the show, but this was a storyline I was 98 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: going to be excited to fall along with. It's one 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: of those that you kind of engross yourself in, yeah, 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: and say, how does this get navigated? Where did they 101 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: end up? Do they rekindle something or are they okay 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: watching each other date side by side. Those are the 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: kind of things that I'm so intrigued by in Paradise, 104 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: and I think we lost the greatest moment for that 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: between Justin and Susie. 106 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to give myself like the whole 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: like wow, I had a great storyline, but Jared in 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: my storyline was obviously interesting because we had had a relationship, 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: a friendship relationship what everyone call it off camera? Same 110 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: with Kendall and Joe that was so interesting, dominated the 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: storylines in that Bachelor of Paradise four years ago, and 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: now we had this opportunity to have a couple that 113 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: was apparently together for longer than we even a new 114 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: interact on the beach together. It was super disappointing to 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: see both of them leave, even if just one of 116 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: them stayed, even if it was just Susie. I couldn't 117 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: believe as she left that. I was like, you're gonna 118 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: let a prior winner leave like this, like you're golden girl, 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: like she was supposed to be their golden girl. 120 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, there's no way they should have let 121 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: her go. I mean, old production would have just said, like, hey, 122 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Jesse comes out with one extra rose, 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, we just want to give it 124 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: to you. 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: Oh I love my girl, Jil, right, I love Jill. 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: But what I thought what was gonna happen there was 127 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: that Jesse was gonna come out with a rose for 128 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: both Susie and Lexi. 129 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: And say, hey, this is obviously not over. Jesse explains 130 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: that there hasn't been enough time to form this relationship, right, 131 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: there's no rules in Paradise, and so the show has 132 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: decided to let them both stay for another week, and 133 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: we kind of see how this is going to go. 134 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: I would have loved I know it would have and 135 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: I think Bachelor Nation misses those kind of no rules 136 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: moments where like, hey, that seems unfair, but I. 137 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: Love it exactly, Like I just want my favorites to 138 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: stay around at the end of the day, Like, yes, 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: is that producy? Yeah? But sometimes maybe like we're being 140 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: hypocrites right now because we're actually telling them what we 141 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: wanted them to step in and like produce the show 142 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: a bit. 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: Right. And then with Justin, well, let's talk about this 145 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: online drama between Justin and Lexi. Okay, so I'm not 146 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: gonna read it word for word because it's pretty thick, 147 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: like they went back and forth quite a bit. 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, just break it down for it. 149 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're arguing that she's saying, you were you know, 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: exactly who I thought you were. You weren't in it 151 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: for me, you still had things for Susie. I was 152 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: in the right to have my guard up with you. 153 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: And then Justin is explaining himself like he's like, I'll 154 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: read justin initial because then and then I'll be able 155 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: to sum up better. 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: Let's be clear here, So this is happening on Instagram. 157 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: It's happening on a post that Justin made about this 158 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: last episode of the show. It just came out recently. 159 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: Lexi then responded to Justin's post and Justin re responded 160 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: back to her, followed by Lexi responding back and Justin 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: finally responding back. It's been a back and forth publicly 162 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: for us all to see. This is not something that 163 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: you couldn't look up yourselves, but we're here to save 164 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: you time on your drives, right and break it down 165 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: for you. 166 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So he said I had no intention to lead 167 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: anyone on. I was very intentional with who I pursued, 168 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: but unfortunately the same interest was not reciprocated for days 169 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: where I was and then informed that this person didn't 170 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: have interest in dating somebody that lived outside of where 171 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: she lived, and she was I was unsure that we 172 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: wanted the same things out of life. This conversation wasn't 173 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: shown as well as me as as well as telling 174 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: me to pursue other women. So Lexie apparently told him 175 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: that as she wanted to pursue other men prior to 176 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: ending things with me. Yes, I will get I totally 177 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: give Justin credit here. I didn't think Justin look at 178 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: a bad guy at all. I think Justin looked like 179 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: such a good guy. He's the kind of guy that 180 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: you'd want to marry. That's what I thought watching this. 181 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: So when I saw this conversation, and sorry, I'm just 182 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: interrupting the reading right now, but when I saw his excuse, 183 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: you know that he was trying to defend himself on Instagram, 184 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, lots of people out there didn't 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: think that that was the gentlemanly good thing to do. Interesting, 186 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: how like, so people can interpret it in different ways anyway. 187 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: Continuing the conversation before the rose ceremony was the first 188 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: time I received any sense of interest from her. I 189 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: found it concerning that of all the reservations from less 190 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: than twenty four hours earlier were no longer there just 191 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: minutes before we lined up for the rose ceremony. She's like, oh, 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: by the way, like, uh okay, see, no right. I 193 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: chose to self sacrifice for someone I deeply care about 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: rather than take the chance of continuing to pursue someone 195 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: who I didn't feel genuinely was interested in me. I 196 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: hope you can understand it was a difficult situation for 197 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: all parties to navigate. Okay, Then Lexi goes on to 198 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: basically say, what you're saying is simply not true, and 199 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: you know it, so comes out with a bomb, a 200 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: bomb that in which to be honest. Maybe it's because 201 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm friends with Justin and I've never met Lexi, but 202 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: based on what I saw and based on the person 203 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: that I know, I'm definitely a team Justin. Here she's 204 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: saying that, like you should. She goes, I suggest you 205 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: reflect on how you show up in that space because 206 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: this narrative isn't it. I won't let you twist my 207 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: words or rewrite my truth. We both know the reality 208 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: of what happened. I hope you take the time to 209 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: grow and heal. I'm sorry, but to me, from the 210 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: past seven hours of footage that we've watched, and yes, 211 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: I know not everything is there, but it seemed to 212 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: me that she was extremely hesitant over him. Seems as 213 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: if she basically said, we're no longer continuing this until 214 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: we saw that that conversation that happened before the Rowst 215 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: ceremony in which she said, you know, she gave him 216 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: a kiss. She seemed a little more interested in I know, Ben, 217 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: your take, well. 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: I don't think you use platitudes like I hope you 219 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: take time to grow and heal. 220 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: That is a massive just punch, really, I think the 221 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: punch of this is more so when she says, I 222 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: won't let you like basically describe this narrative because it's 223 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: not accurate. 224 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: None of that's personal until the very and the personal 225 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: in the very end is you as a person need 226 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: to grow and heal. If I told you that, Ashley, 227 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: or if I just confronted you and said, hey, don't 228 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: twist my words, you would take a lot more offense 229 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: to me saying, you know what, actually, best of luck 230 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: to you. I hope you grow and heal and become 231 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: a better person, because right now you suck. 232 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: She goes further. She goes wishing you clarity and accountability 233 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: on that path. Please don't share my story or use 234 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: my words that are simply not true. And then he 235 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: responds by basically saying, you told me that you that 236 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: you are in la justin growing your business. I'm in 237 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: Atlanta growing mine. I have no plans of leaving I'm 238 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: not sure we even want the same things out of life. 239 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: That is what she said to him within twenty four hours, 240 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: is what he's saying, And he says luckily cameras were 241 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: present for the conversation. In the cameras caught footage that 242 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: will never be aired unfortunately. 243 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, a few things take away from 244 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: this one. I don't think Justin's times on Paradise have 245 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: been great for him. He should probably retire from Paradise. 246 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: I like Justin, I like hanging out with him. He's 247 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: a great guy. He's really funny, he's very charismatic. He's 248 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: a very handsome gentleman. Paradise never seems to be his spot. 249 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: It just doesn't seem to work, and I don't know why. 250 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: I can't even explain why. My second thought to this 251 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: is that I am enjoying out of all of this 252 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: and all the issues that I have that Susie left 253 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: so early and not really knowing how the Lexi and 254 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: Justin conversation went. You can get on Instagram, you can 255 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: dive into this for yourself. What I do appreciate about 256 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 2: this season so far is we are at this point, 257 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: like barely two plus episodes in and we have a 258 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: relationship already causing drama. Amazing for this show. Amazing that 259 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: the show, somehow, in this very packed environment at a 260 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: very isolated resort, cultivated some type of relationship that is 261 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: causing some type of drama. It could have been. I 262 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: was worried that this season of Paradise would feel so 263 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: light the whole time, where we would never have a 264 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: connection made, or if we did, it felt very lucy, 265 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: goosey and flighty and never really committed to. Already we 266 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: have a fight. Hey, not an advocate of fights, not 267 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: an advocate for either side here, but a big advocate 268 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: that people care. And it shows me that both Lexi 269 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: and Justin cared, and Justin cared. Also about Susie. I 270 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: understand where his thought process is at. If Lexi and 271 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: Justin didn't have something deep, then he's saying, I would 272 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: much rather see Susie stick around out of the goodness 273 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: of my heart. I don't know if it was his 274 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: sword to fall on. I don't think it was. I 275 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: think that relationship's over, he doesn't need to do that, 276 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: but there was something inside of him that wanted to 277 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: see her stick around. I'm also glad that Jill Chin stuck. 278 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm glad that she accepted the rose and she ended 279 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: up with the rose. I'm excited to see Jill stay 280 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: for a bit and see how that shakes out, because 281 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: she will be a great character, always is in Paradise 282 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: and always is one to watch and remember. A Lexi's 283 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: time because of this is shorter than I thought it 284 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: would be. Also, I thought she'd be a hot company 285 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: on the beach totally. I thought she would have a 286 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: lot of interest from a lot of people, and she 287 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: probably could have and would have if this didn't play 288 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,359 Speaker 2: out the way it did. But now we lose Susie 289 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: and Alexi and Alie, Joe and Zoe on this episode. 290 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: Those are some some big names and if you look 291 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: at who's left, I think they were for the people 292 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: that could have carried it. 293 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to go back to your interpretation of 294 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: Justin giving Susie the rose. I don't want to say that, 295 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: like if if Justin had a real connection with somebody 296 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: and somebody who was like showing positivity towards him for 297 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: the most part, I would be like, Justin, come on, 298 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: you can't give Seasy the rose, even though you're trying 299 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: to be like super nice to the girl that like 300 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: you obviously love, like you know, maybe not romantically anymore, 301 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: but you love her. But the fact that he didn't 302 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: and like, I just thought that Lexi made it so 303 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: clear that they weren't going anywhere that I was like, yeah, 304 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: I think that was the nice move. And I think 305 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: that he always intended to excuse himself from the show 306 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: when he gave her the rose, Yeah. 307 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: I would think, so, yeah, yeah. 308 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't. I don't think it was her denial 309 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: that made him say I'm going home, but maybe it 310 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: was who else. 311 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I don't think we gotta 312 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: clear picture in that This episode I think will go 313 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: down as one that we lost some people that we 314 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: could have been really invested into and that kind of 315 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: would be very comfortable being in Paradise and kind of 316 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: letting their guard down and exploring these relationships. However, I 317 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: do want to say that Zoe, who is another big 318 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: name to go home that we haven't really talked about, 319 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: did the Zoe thing, which is what we have appreciated 320 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: her for, and also we're really excited to see her 321 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: in Paradise, for it might not be everybody's cup of tea. 322 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: But it's fun to watch. She is direct. She says 323 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: what she's thinking and what she feels, even if maybe 324 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: the other person doesn't see it the same way. Yeah, 325 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: those are the type of people I want around in Paradise. 326 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: I want her there to continue to do this to 327 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: every person that still stays open to other relationships. While 328 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: she is very committed to the person that she thinks 329 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: has committed to her. We see that this episode she 330 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: goes home because of it. I think another one where 331 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: I watched her go and I was like, there's so 332 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: much more we could have seen from Zoe. I don't 333 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: know if it looks a lot different than what we 334 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: saw already. 335 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know either. 336 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: But it was a loss for this show. 337 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I wonder what girls are going to 338 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: be brought in? 339 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Well, right now we kind of have the group that 340 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: we knew were going to be there right now as 341 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: it stands, we had the information on some of the 342 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: people that we're going to be in Paradise, and we've 343 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: seen most of them. We've seen most of them come 344 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: in and go some of them, so we'll be interesting 345 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: to watch. The great thing about Paradise is for all 346 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: the drama that happened, and we've already mentioned those that 347 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: left you wake up the next morning it's day six 348 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: of Paradise and the women now have control. So the 349 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: whole dynamics which is back. It is one of the 350 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: most interesting aspects of Paradise to me is kind of 351 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: the not the gameplay, but the dynamics shifts that happen 352 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: week to week because don't get too confident and don't 353 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: get too cocky, because the next week, if you don't 354 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: have a committee relationship and you've kind of been playing 355 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: the field, well, you're on the hook to go home. 356 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: And that brings to Bailey and Jeremy's relationship. How I 357 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 3: was shocked. I again, like, was this all a production 358 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: move gone wrong? I'm not sure because I audibly gasped 359 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: when Jeremy gave Bailey the road and not Susie. I 360 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 3: thought he was taken by Susie. He seems like a 361 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: different person. I know that I often give Jeremy some flak. 362 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: He seemed like a gentleman with Susie, like he was 363 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: on his very best behavior. He kept saying that she 364 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: was the girl that he had put on her list, 365 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, he picks Bailey, and 366 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, all right, So maybe I was reading 367 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: that wrong. Maybe he was pretty torn. And then this 368 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: bites him in the butt because Andrew Spencer charming, wonderful. 369 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: Andrew Spencer, another person that we love to see here 370 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: comes in, asks Bailey on a date, and then Bailey 371 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: had already said last night. What did she say? She 372 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: said basically like, I'm here for you. She said that 373 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: of course before Rose was given out. It made Jeremy 374 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: feel pretty secure. But when Andrew gives her the day card, 375 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: Jeremy is very, very pissed, so pissed that he asked 376 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 3: the producer to call Susie and I love this move. 377 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: I love a desperation move in the interview room where 378 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: you're like, can have your phone, because like I may 379 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: have done that before, and I thought that was going 380 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: to be our way to get Susie back. So I 381 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: feel like I was just as disappointed when Susie said 382 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: to Jeremy, I think you have to figure things out, 383 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: and she denied him. 384 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: It's rough for Jeremy right now. I will say, no 385 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: matter how this plays out, I don't think he's sitting 386 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: in a good position. Andrew Spencer showing up to the 387 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: beach is a great get for us as a viewer 388 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: because he does understand paradise. He is as charming and 389 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: funny in real life as he is on the beach. 390 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: His personality will shine there. I think out of so 391 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: many that have came and gone through the Bachelor franchise, 392 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: he's one of those that does confuse me on why 393 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: he is still single, because I do believe being around 394 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: him he wants to find that forever person. I obviously 395 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: don't know him well enough to dissect all the good 396 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: and bad, but he does seem like a catch to 397 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: me and one that a lot of people will be 398 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: interested in. And I'm guessing he was also somebody that 399 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: a lot of people were surprised to see show up 400 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: to the beach because it kind of felt like his 401 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 2: time on the beach had come and gone, and then 402 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: we took a year break and now he's back. Great 403 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: get for us. Not only is Andrew back, this is 404 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 2: also the moment that we reveal the Goldens that are 405 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: coming up to the beach. They're bringing their spunkiness, their feisiness, 406 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: their humor, their excitement, That's one of the things I 407 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: love about the Goldens. I think they're very grateful for 408 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: these opportunities, and as a result, it is displayed through 409 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: their enthusiasm, where sometimes cast members of The Bachelor and 410 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: Bachelorette can be a little more hesitant and nervous. Yeah, 411 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: more reserve, not ungrateful, just a little bit more. 412 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Help back, just beat me out. Guys like they don't 413 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: give up. 414 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: No, they are going wild, especially April. Here's who shows 415 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: up to the beach April, Leslie, Kim, Ralph, Keith, Gordon. 416 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: Big win for me. I wanted to see more of Keith, Natasha, 417 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 2: Kathy Schwartz, who one of the best in the world. 418 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: Gotta find her husband. She's working so hard at that. Jack, 419 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: Charles King, Natasha and RJ. 420 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 3: So these guys legit. Maybe I die. I was so 421 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: hesitant about them coming into Paradise. They made it a 422 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: lot of fun. They made it start to feel like 423 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: old Paradise again. 424 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 425 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: I don't know whether they did edit it more slowly 426 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: once they came in, but like all that like slow 427 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: motion and clip clip clip clip clip, all the loud 428 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 3: music just seemed to like kind of go to the wayside. 429 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: And it was old fashioned paradise humor. 430 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 2: It's amazing. I agree with you. I felt like it 431 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: was a throwback to the old paradise. I felt like 432 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: it was like that warm hug that we all needed 433 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: watching this show to remind us that we are still 434 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: watching Bachelor in Paradise. The Golden showing up felt like 435 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: a comfort to me, like, hey, I understand this again. 436 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: I know this again. I do think it was slower paced. 437 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just because they move at 438 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: a slower pace or because it was edited to a 439 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: slower pace. 440 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: Oh no, I was like, oh, this is fun. I'm 441 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: smiling now. 442 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Goldens are there. 443 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing really happens with the Goldens besides them being 444 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: just like background humor for a while and enjoying every moment. 445 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: We kind of go back to the young ends when 446 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: we see Andrew and Bailey go on their day. They 447 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: like bathe in coffee or something. 448 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: It's a big one for the coffee world, the greatest. 449 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: If you're somebody that watched that and said I need 450 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: to bathe in coffee, please try to bathe in generous coffee. 451 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: It is has no pesticides, no chemicals, It is. It's 452 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: just you know, highly highly graded. It's especially grade coffee. 453 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: It's so good for your skin if you want to 454 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: bathe in it, I recommend ordering one hundred pounds. 455 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a fun I definitely listen to Ben and 456 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: you can also buy it through Audrey's Coffee House in lounge. 457 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 3: Yes even better zoom. Yeah. So during this date, we 458 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 3: see one of those flashbacks or no, it's not a 459 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 3: flashbackcne and it's like a dreamed sequence where Jeremy is 460 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: imagining what's going on with Bailey and Andrew on their date. 461 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: What people seem to really really hate this last week? 462 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 3: What'd you think about this? I don't mind them. They're 463 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: not the best, they're not the worst. They're fine. 464 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: I could go without it. I don't think it brings 465 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: anything to me, Like I'm sure it took a lot 466 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: of time in creativity and it does keep some junior 467 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: producer up at night, you know, thinking about it. I 468 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: don't really enjoy them in a way to me, Ashley, 469 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: it kind of like I think viewers for so long 470 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: have held on to this idea that The Bachelor is 471 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: a real experiment in dating and relationships. They have walked 472 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: at times a fine line going, this is way too 473 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: edited for me to watch, and some of those people 474 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: that they brought back into the show to watch this 475 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: show specifically over the summer, we'll see this and they go, 476 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: this is too corny, this is too much, This is 477 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: just too different for me. I want to see real 478 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: life play out on TV. So I don't think it's 479 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: a benefit to the show. I think it's one that 480 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: we won't see in the future. 481 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, apparently there were no dream sequis. Isn't up 482 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: so too? You and I have been getting our screeners 483 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 3: later than usual, which indicates to me maybe I'm just 484 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: coming up with drama that they might be editing late 485 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: last minute. 486 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: It makes sense, you know, it's kind of a quick 487 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: turnaround no matter what. Yeah, so the dream sequences could 488 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: go without it, but we do see this Bailey and 489 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: Andrew day. I think Andrew's probably a great person to 490 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: be on a date. I just think he's probably fun, easy, 491 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: kind of brings down any anxiety's had. I see the 492 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: Bailey potential there at this moment. While I'm watching this Day, 493 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm seeing and I'm like, I think this could work. 494 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: But obviously we still have the element of Bailey and 495 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: Jeremy happening, which kicks off really our morning of day 496 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: seven of Paradise. We see Bailey and Jeremy talking, or 497 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: at least Bailey feeling some sort of uneasiness about going 498 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: on the date with Andrew, because I do think she 499 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: does care about Jeremy. 500 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: And I think she came home still liking Jeremy Moore. 501 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: He now has this predicament on whether or not he 502 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: tells Bailey, hey, I freaked out so hard when you 503 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: left that I decided to call Susie and call her back, 504 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: because that's something that could come and affect them later. 505 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: I think he needs say it out. 506 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't think so. It's no, you're still so early on. 507 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: It didn't work out. She's not coming back. And he 508 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: has a really easy excuse, which is, hey, you want 509 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: to think another dude, and I decided to call another girl? 510 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, yeah, yeah, all right. Well then meanwhile, Andrew 511 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: and Alex, So if Andrew and Bailey aren't happening, Andrew 512 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: and Alex are something that could possibly be happening. But 513 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: right now Alex is with Jonathan not really no guy. 514 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: Well you know that's their pairing currently. 515 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: She pretty much said as she was there that in 516 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 2: a nicer way, like Jonathan's giving her the ick. 517 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: You're probably you're actually so right, she says, I hate 518 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: the way with the way that you're like putting your 519 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: hand on your chin. 520 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: I feel very uncomfortable right now. 521 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: That is she was picked out. However, she doesn't know. 522 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: She wants to give Andrew a chance because she feels 523 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: kind of burned by the fact that he took Bailey 524 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 3: on the day instead of her. She gets over it 525 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: quite quickly. She does feel bad about breaking up breaking 526 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: up quo quote with Jonathan, and I like it when 527 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: people have to break up in Paradise and they feel 528 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: emotional about it. I mean, I don't like being the 529 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: subject of the breakup, but you know, it's always nice 530 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: to see somebody like, Oh, I hate breaking up. It's 531 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: like an emotional thing. I feel so bad. And it's 532 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: interesting that Jonathan is like the single guy here now, 533 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: because I don't know. I think Jonathan's real cute, but 534 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: I also think he's very fev hungry. 535 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: Well, but I also think John kind of has that 536 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: like he I think in his life will fall into 537 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: the friend zone quickly because he is like very charismatic, 538 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: and he's very friendly, and I think girls will quickly 539 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: either like be really into that or be like, hey, 540 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: you're my best buddy. Yeah, let's go walk the beach 541 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: and talk about all the other boys that are here. 542 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, not shocked by this move. I do 543 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: think Alex and Andrew, you know, do have potential. Alex. 544 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: The reason I started this saying this is the horniest 545 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: episode ever is because Jonathan says the Goldens are just 546 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: ready to go, and Alex also says she's ready to go, 547 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: which feels like a reference that we've never really heard 548 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: on this show before. It feels like you said, it 549 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: is uncovering a whole new language and pathway for us 550 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: to pursue. It's not like this has never been talked about. 551 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: We've had the boom boom room for years. 552 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: Boom boom is like supposed to be the cute way 553 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: of saying it, though. 554 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're skipping that and we're cute. 555 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's definitely a Love Island thing or you know 556 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: whatever the name the competition X on the Beach, what's 557 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: the other show about? Too Hot to Handle? It's just 558 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: like they're a little references and making it a little 559 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: bit dirtier, a little bit more risky, But I will 560 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: say the kiss between Andrew and Alex and just their 561 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: cutes conversation in the pool made me feel like, yes, 562 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: I want to root for this couple. It was another 563 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: one of those moments where I was like, I feel 564 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: like very interested in seeing where this goes. This is 565 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: a good old fashioned Paradise moment, minus the horny. 566 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: Ashley. As we kind of wrap things up here, we 567 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: do have another guest that arrives that pulls in a 568 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: big moment for the show. We have the Jack in 569 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: April makeout. That's a wild thing to see. Jack says, 570 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: there was tongue. That's exciting. I think April is gonna 571 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: have a blast in Paradise. I have no doubt that 572 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: she in the next few episodes is gonna be one 573 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: to watch. 574 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: April so funny from the fact that she has this 575 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: connection with Kat and they're sharing a room hilarious. But 576 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: my favorite moment from April and the entire episode was 577 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: when she told Jonathan, you know where my room is 578 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: if you ever need me for some reason. I was like, yes, 579 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 3: and he actually seemed like a little bit weirded out. 580 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if he was told like bring it 581 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: up as if it was strange to your friends, but 582 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: like I was like, yes, this is what we wanted 583 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: to see. Slight induendo between the two, but nothing like 584 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: for real, for real, except for what do you think? 585 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: Do you think that he's gonna try to get his 586 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: rose from April? I think he is. And guess what, 587 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get the rose from her. He 588 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: is hungry for a rose. 589 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he sees his opportunity and he says, 590 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm all over this. I just didn't think this had 591 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: happened so quickly. I don't even have like comments for 592 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: this more than like I'll be watching, I'll be intrigued. 593 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: I do think something happens. 594 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: But then we also see Dale taking that shot off 595 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: her belly. That's gonna be during one of the games. 596 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: You know that's gonna be one of the challenge. 597 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: Sure, but I've zero doubt that April is going to 598 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: be a large part of this show. She's made for Paradise. Yeah, 599 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: and I think she's gonna drive some of the other 600 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: Golden's crazy and she's going to be like whoever, whoever 601 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: is ready, Whoever's open. I'm here, and I will make 602 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: sure everybody here has a good time. And I think 603 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: those are the funniest and best people to have in Paradise. 604 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: Some people that we can think of like thrived in 605 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: Paradise because they just had a good time all the time. 606 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: And I think that's gonna be April Sean shows up 607 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: to the beach. He is our final entry during this episode. Sean, 608 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: you know what, I've met him. He's a really nice dude. 609 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: He is a like, very like kin looking fella. 610 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: I know that's what we can't take him seriously because 611 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: he does look fake, I. 612 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: Know, and I think that goes against him. 613 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: I feel bad. It's like, obviously he's attractive, but there's 614 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: something so polished about him that makes you like kind 615 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: of laugh. 616 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: I think, like Jill said it best, Sean looks like 617 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: a big yacht guy and she's more of a dingy girl. 618 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: He looks like that. I don't think he is that. 619 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: I do think he, you know, kind of gives off 620 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: that look in the vibe of like I'm really well 621 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: put together. I could walk into any room and look 622 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: like like I showered five minutes ago, and you know, 623 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: did my hair just right? 624 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I. 625 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: Think he's a lot cooler than that, and I think 626 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: you see that during this date with Sean and Jill. 627 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: I think you see him being funny, breaking down, being 628 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: kind of like your normal humor, and Jill is obviously 629 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: wanted to bring that out in him. She's hilarious. So 630 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: for me, I was excited that he chose Jill. I think, 631 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: out of anybody on the beach, just from a potential 632 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: that she would give him a chance, even she was 633 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 2: the best choice. 634 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually seem to have a genuinely good time. 635 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 3: And then we have to discuss Jill and Jonathan's conversation 636 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: because once he realizes that she's probably gonna be he's 637 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: only shot at a rose, he comes back to her 638 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: and it's just like it's a confusing time because it 639 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: seems like it's a conversation, an argument over like one 640 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 3: line where he said something along I know that during 641 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 3: the first episode, like last Monday night, he said something 642 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: like we're going on this date, but like, I think 643 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: it's just going to be friendly, and I told Alex 644 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 3: that and I was like blow and then he kind 645 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: of said something similar to well, then he complicate, he 646 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: confused Jill by saying, you know, maybe you're making this 647 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: a hard decision for me. So that led Jill to 648 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: believe that maybe the two of them had more of 649 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: a something than she thought. So then when he addresses 650 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: this with her, it's just like a whole bunch of 651 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: I don't understand what you're saying. Well, I don't understand 652 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: what you're saying, and I wish that you could like 653 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: understand where I'm coming from, But I don't understand where 654 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: you're coming from. When you're not making any sense and 655 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: you're like, hey, guys, guess what. You don't like each other. 656 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: This isn't gonna happen. So Jonathan gotta move on. Stop 657 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 3: trying to convince her because the only reason you're even 658 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: having this debate is because you want her rose. And 659 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: I know Jill, she's not gonna give you the rose. 660 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: No, he April. That's his path forward. We kind of 661 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: close out this episode with a date sponsored by I 662 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: Know What You Did Last Summer, which is a movie. Uh, 663 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: this was a huge part of the episode. I Don't 664 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: Know What I Know You Did Last Summer? Paid for 665 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: this spot? Oh, huge, definitely a big It might it 666 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: might be where the five hundred thousand dollars cash prize 667 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 2: is coming in at the end of this, which, by 668 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: the way, from the polling that we did at Almost Famous, 669 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: a majority of you do not like the idea of. 670 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 3: Fani from that is actually so accurate. I'm not shocked 671 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 3: if it was no, that would make so much sense, Like, 672 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: let's just do this ad and then they'll give us 673 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: the money for the prize. 674 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: I mean it was in their contracts, but I know 675 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: you did last summer does their does the date. It's 676 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: a big group exercise. It's a funny game. It does 677 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: lead to some I think intriguing conversations, especially you know 678 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 2: between like the Kathy and the Keys of the World. 679 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: But the game is this, I'll just explain it kind 680 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: of how I understand it. Each testine wrote down a 681 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: secret and put it in a lock chess. Jesse then 682 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 2: reads these secrets out loud. The contestants vote on which 683 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: secret is the most shocking. The owner of the secret 684 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: can reveal themselves or remain anonymous, but Jesse says that 685 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: is unlikely once they find out what is at stake, 686 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: the majority vote will determine which secret is most shocking. 687 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: So we have all these people write down their secrets 688 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 2: and then what was at stake. 689 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: Actually, well, they didn't say it until afterward. So he 690 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: was just like, it's a prize that's going to make 691 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 3: you feel very good. It's going to be advantageous for 692 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: you in this experience. Advantageous, That's what he said. And 693 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: so it ends up being a VIP room, which I'm 694 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,479 Speaker 3: not sure if it was a VIP room to stay 695 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: in throughout their entire experience or it was just for 696 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 3: the night. Kathy ends up winning it because Kathy's secret 697 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: was that she slept in she slept with someone else 698 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 3: in her house while her partner was in another room. Now, 699 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 3: our producer and I were kind of like coming up 700 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 3: with reasons where that could be true but actually not 701 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 3: true at the same time, like not as selacious as 702 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: she may have made it. One theory, my theory, which 703 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 3: was also Kat's theory, was like she just innocently slept 704 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 3: in a bed with somebody else while her maybe late 705 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 3: husband was in the house. Another option that our producer 706 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 3: came up with is that her husband is cremated and 707 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 3: he is in an urn somewhere in the house and 708 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 3: she was sleeping with somebody else. Ben what do you 709 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 3: think do you think she genuinely cheated on a partner? 710 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: No? 711 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 3: Well in that now, no. 712 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: Shot, I know. I mean knowing Kathy, she's as loyal 713 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: as they come. She is also smart, and so she 714 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 2: was like, how can I twist something to sound like 715 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: something else? And then once I elaborate on it, everyths 716 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh that wasn't that sedacious? That was good? 717 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 3: Now? What about the two other things? The secrets that 718 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 3: stood out to me? One, I thought it was very 719 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: juicy that somebody it turns out to be Keith changed 720 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 3: the name on a test. Yeah, college, high school, whatever, 721 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 3: It was a long time ago. But you submit your test, 722 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: then you take out somebody's name a racer and put 723 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: your own. That is really intense to me. 724 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: Really, yes, you must have never cheated in school. 725 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 3: I guess I didn't. You know, maybe you look over 726 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: just to like double check to make sure you both 727 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 3: have B circles. But yeah, no, Ben's like, I've done 728 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 3: worse than the name change. Okay. So then there was 729 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: also the five hundred thousand dollars secret, which they alluded 730 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 3: to being Aprils said that I found five hundred thousand 731 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: dollars and I kept it. Was that a production that 732 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: was at like a little car that was started in 733 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: their right to production? 734 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I've also found five hundred thousand dollars and 735 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 2: turned it in. 736 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 3: So. 737 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: No secrets on my plate. 738 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 3: We found five hundred thousand dollars, is right, was sitting somewhere. 739 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: No, the cocaine deal that I found in Southeach. 740 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of similar. Yeah, yeah, see who knows 741 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 3: how much that was costing. 742 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 2: It's a funny game. This is a fun game. I 743 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: think one of the best parts of this is it 744 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 2: ends up with Kathy and Keith in the VIP suite. 745 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 746 00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: I personally, I think there's sparks here. 747 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: They have fun together, that's for sure. 748 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 2: I like it. I want to see it continue. I 749 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 2: hope it does. 750 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: My thought is that seeing these two on a date, 751 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: in comparing it to like the flirting of the twenties 752 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 3: and thirties, something's downstairs. It's like they again don't give 753 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 3: a fuck and they're just blabb into each other. There's 754 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 3: no like, oh, I'm just gonna like say this and 755 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 3: I bat my eyes and like, you know, really try 756 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: to like seduce you in this moment and be really cool. No, 757 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 3: it's just like we're just talking to each other. 758 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: We're just talking a lot about you want to make out, 759 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: Let's make out. Yeah, excellent. 760 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 3: It is a really fun watch. 761 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fun watch. I'm glad they did it. 762 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: I'm glad they were there. There's a great part of 763 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: the episode actually before we close up here the current 764 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: couples that exist in Paradise as we speak, and I'm 765 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: talking couples, not like fringe couples. We obviously don't have 766 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: roseta into this episode. And so who do you who 767 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: would you, in your mind say is a couple moving 768 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: into the next week. 769 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 3: So Spencer and Jess and they are getting the always 770 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 3: unfortunate treatment that Paradise gives their strongest couples, which is 771 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,959 Speaker 3: no air time. So we don't really know how great 772 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: they're getting along, because they're getting along so well that 773 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 3: we're not seeing them. Is that it Wait, that's a couple. 774 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 3: And then we're assuming that Bailey and Jeremy are pretty 775 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: much a couple. And then we Cat and Dale definitely 776 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 3: a couple. I can't wait to see the drama unfold 777 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 3: between that, because Dale goes you're reminding me of my 778 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 3: ex right now, and you know, and he's saying that 779 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: he's referring to Claire. Let's see who else am I missing? 780 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: As far as couples go. 781 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 2: Would you put Andrew Spencer in there with Alex? 782 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 3: They're definitely strong, they're definitely giving each other roses. 783 00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. 784 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: Oh, and then what's his name? Brian and Parisa? 785 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. And the Goldens, I mean, 786 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: they'll we don't really have too much. 787 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 3: I don't have much in my head there, Okay. 788 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: The preview for the next episode is this. The Goldens 789 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,479 Speaker 2: are doing body shots off of each other. We get 790 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: another woman to arrive to the beach. We see more 791 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: kissing from April and Jack. Jesse announces that three people 792 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 2: will be going home. It's a big amount for this group. 793 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that also includes the Goldens, so maybe not 794 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 2: as big as I thought it would be. April tells 795 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 2: Jonathan if I was them, I'd be jumping your bones. 796 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 2: Cat and Dale have a heated conversation. Kat then says, 797 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 2: don't interrupt me, which is just legendary. Cat. We've seen 798 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: this last time we saw her on the beach. We're 799 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 2: gonna see it again. I love to see it. He 800 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: does refer to her as reminding him of his X, 801 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: and everyone at the rose ceremony is looking shocked for 802 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 2: some reason. So it's going to be another great episode. 803 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: We're going to be here breaking it down right here 804 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: on them listening to this podcast. We hope you enjoyed it. 805 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 2: No polls this week, no questions for you all. I 806 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: guess the biggest question would be, are you enjoying it? 807 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: Are you finding yourself getting used to it and getting 808 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: in to this season, or are you finding yourself pulling away? 809 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 2: That's the big question. I think that would be most 810 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: intriguing for us. We've already kind of got the answers 811 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: to how some of these editing issues have gone, and 812 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: it does feel like the show is pulling out of 813 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 2: the dream sequences and entering more into the reality that 814 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: is happening on the beaches of Paradise. So until next time, 815 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 2: I've been Ben. 816 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: I've been Ashley Bete. Guys. 817 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 818 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.