1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: I think Trevor can be an international superstar. You know, 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: there's not many football players that become international superstars. And 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: we got three D latch Lawrence to shoutdown field that 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: he has t higans watching him at the Oldenings. And 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: this guy could go to an NFL training camp right now, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: uh and throw one on one throw routes on air 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: and look like an NFL quarterback. Lawrence just launches freshmall persons, 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: freshwa Brice catch the far sideline. I can't really recall 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: anyone like him that had the combination of that size 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: and speed and and armed talent. With the first pick 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Trevor Lawrence 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Clinton. Everyone, It's Daniel Jeremiah from Move the Sticks, 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: and I'm Bucky Brooks and this is Trevor Lawrence his 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: three sixty Well, Buck, I know Jacksonville Jaguar fans are 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: are fired up about Trevor Lawrence being their new quarterback 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: after he is the first overall pick. But they're gonna 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: learn a little bit more about Trevor Lawrence today because 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a chance to talk to a lot 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: of folks who know him very well. Yeah, d J. 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: This is a really deep dive into Trevor Lawrence and 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: all things Trevor Lawrence. We can talk to his college coach, 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Debo Sweeney. We can talk to his family members, we 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: can talk to the mayor of Cartersville who also called 24 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences game in high school, Tryn Dilfer, And we're 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: going to talk to his private quarterback coach Bryanville just 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: to get a deeper perspective on who Trevor Lawrence is, 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: who he was coming up. Now, this is somebody buck 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: you know him going back to high school and not 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a surprise he left high school, is the number one 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: recruiting the country. Um, he arrives at Clemson and he 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: delivers in a big way. Um. I think we both 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: agree as the best player in this year's draft class 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and somebody that again, I think you gotta be fired 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: up in Jacksonville because everything he can do, I don't 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: know where the limits are with this kid. Look, man, 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: he's a very talented player. He's a five star talent, 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: tremendous combination of arm talent, athleticism, UH intelligence, instincts, natural 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: leadership skills and a big stage performer. And when you 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: think about a guy who has been a QB one 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: since he was fifteen or sixteen years old, he has 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: always lived up to the hype. UM. The Jaguars are 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: getting a franchise quarterback, arguably the first time they've had 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in their franchise history. It's not gonna 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: be too big from I think that's something you're gonna 45 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: learn as you go through this audio podcast and listen 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: to all of these interviews. UM. The first interview though, 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: is one that just recently took place, and it's with 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence himself. This is him talking with the media 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: the day he was drafted. Coach Meyer, the biggest thing 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: is that he's a winner. Who've seen He's done that 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: his whole career. So I'm really excited to be a 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: part of that. You want to invest in the community. 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Why is that so important to you? Wherever you got Yeah, 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: I think it's just important to be normal, you know, 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: And that's that's one way to do that is by 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: plugging into the community, investing in the community and hearing 57 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: about the people around you. UM. And that's kind of 58 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: been something that me and Marissa want to do wherever 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: we were going to end up, and now that we 60 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: officially know that it's Jacksonville, we just can't wait to 61 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: get started and like I said, to plug in and 62 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: just leveling the people around us. So it's a lot 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: of fun and just super excited for it. So I'm 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: curious about, um, what you view as your biggest challenges 65 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: to adjust your game to the NFL level And are 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: there NFL quarterbacks that you have you have studied try 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: to to learn things from as you prepare for this. Yeah, 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: I think, Um, obviously, just making that transition from college 69 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: to the NFL, it's kind of a holistic approach, like 70 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: you gotta gotta get better at everything. So I'm just 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: trying to fine tune footwork, mechanics, mentally get sharper um. 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: And then now it's transition into like let's let's learn 73 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: the playbook, let's get ready you know for camp and um, 74 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: but like I said, the main thing is getting there 75 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: and adjusting to a new teammate and coaches and really 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: just seamlessly fitting in. And um, I think, like I said, 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: earning the respect and trust of your teammates is huge 78 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: to me. And then um, but like you said, guys 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I watched. Russell Wilson is definitely one um these guys 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: that are super efficient, that are really smart where they 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: play um a podical. I think Aaron Rodgers is is 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: a great example that there's I mean there's a ton 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: and then Tom Brady obviously has been doing it for forever, 84 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: So watching him someone that's that consistent, I think you 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: can always learn something from him. So those are some 86 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: guys that I like to watch. There's obviously a ton more, 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: although it's interesting there Buck talking about him watching Aaron Rodgers, 88 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, UM pretty good guys to study. 89 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Now you think, Yeah, I think Trevor Lawrence gets it. 90 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I think he understands what is expected of him as 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise. More importantly, I think he 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: understands what he's tasked with in terms of turning around 93 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: a franchise that's really struggled in recent years. And so 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: as he continues to work in lockstep with Remire, as 95 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: he continues to be remiers number one representative for the 96 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: new culture that's in Jacksonville, I think he gets it. 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's hard for quarterback and hey coaches to 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: get on the same page. I believe he is definitely 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: on the same page as Urbanmer because I think he's 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: just one of those special players who gets it on 101 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: and off the field. I'm glad you mentioned coach urban Meyer. There, 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: somebody that we've had a chance to talk to several 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: times on the podcast. UM had a chance of following 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: the draft, we had him on the network coverage and 105 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: I got a chance to ask him, uh, you know 106 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence and if he hits the checklist at 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, a checklist He's talked with us, uh 108 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: numerous times about Daniel the thing that was really need 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: shot our owners shot Com really wanted Trevor right out 110 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: to get go when the first time I spoke to 111 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: him and and uh, you know, I explained to him 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: that this is arguably the biggest decision you know that 113 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: all makes, certainly a professional football in this organization. I said, 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: let us do our work, you know, let us I 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: just I love Trevor, I've known him a long time. 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: I witnessed it, but I have to veteran NFL quarterback 117 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: coaches and Daryl Bebble and Brian Schottenheimer, let us, let 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: us go to work. For a month and our coaches did. 119 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: And I always like to you know, you earned things. 120 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: And the really cool thing is that in the Jaguars opinion, 121 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Charla Lawrence earned the right to be the first peck 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: and that was through the zoom calls. Multiple we were 123 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: testing him, cloising him, grinded him and uh, he passed 124 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: with flying colors. We did a great job. That's pretty 125 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: cool about the fact that they really made him earn it. 126 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: You know, even though everything pointed towards him, it wasn't 127 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion. They made him go through the process, 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: all the zoom interviews, um, all the learning, all the quizzing, 129 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously, in his words, passed with flying colors. 130 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: This is one thing that I love about Coach Mark. 131 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: We've talked to him a few different times about how 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: he's bill coaches in previous spots. But I think this 133 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: is what you have to have. Your best players have 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: to be your hardest workers and your best leaders. And 135 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: I think right out the gate, they're putting Trevor in 136 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: a situation where he can earn his stripes, not only 137 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: just to see if he's worthy of being number one, 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: but they can already put the wheels in motion for 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: him to be the leader of the team, and that 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: is something that you can't give a player. You have 141 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: to earn that. The fact that he went through the 142 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: process and made sure that he showed the Jaguars without 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: a doubt that he was deserving of being number one, 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I think that matters, and that is a launching pad 145 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: for him to be the leader of this franchise, very 146 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: very early in his career, no doubt. All Right, well, 147 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: let's get to some of these other guests here. We're 148 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: gonna start with the younger years here. For for Trevor, 149 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: his development to the recruiting process and just his his 150 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: high school years in general. So to kick that off, 151 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with the head coach at 152 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Clemson Tabbo swinging. You know, it's it's how you win. 153 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: Do you win by sacrificing and compromising and and and 154 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: using young people? Or do you win with love and 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: and you know, compassion and development, uh and and equipping 156 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: young people uh with with a great experience and great 157 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: tools for life. That's that's really, you know, how we've 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: gone about our business here. And Trevor has just coming 159 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: here and and stepped right into that uh you know roll. 160 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the epitome of that. He comes in 161 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: you talk about developing. Yeah, he's a highly recruited guy, 162 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: but he's gotta come in. He's gotta earn it. That's 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: the other thing. You gotta earn it here. No, we 164 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: don't give anybody anything. We're not entitling anybody. You've got 165 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: You're you're empowered, you're not entitled. You gotta go earn it. 166 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: And Trevor was that way in the recruiting process, just 167 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: a very humble kid. Committed December of his junior year. 168 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, at that point we had we had the 169 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: number one quarterback in the country committed to Clempson as 170 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: a senior. He was a senior in high school and 171 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: we had like a top twenty quarterback. We had two 172 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in that senior class. And he came and then 173 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: we had Kelly Bryant and zeriic Ber and all these 174 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: guys on the roster. And then he commits December of 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: his junior year. And to this day, this is one 176 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: of the things I've told a lot of people about him. 177 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: He never asked me about another quarterback in the recruiting process, 178 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: not like like not a single conversation. It was all 179 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: about Clemson. What are programs all about? The people? You know? Uh, 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: that's all our offense, you know, the style of play, 181 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, receivers, those typed He never asked me, not 182 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: one time. So you're talking about a kid that's not 183 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: afraid to compete. Uh, you know, and he came in. 184 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: He committed December of his junior year and it was over, 185 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: like never another discussion about recruiting and Trevor Lawrence. He 186 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: just went on about his business, being a high school junior, 187 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: being a high school senior, you know, just being a 188 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: kid enjoying his journey. And I can honestly say that 189 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: about that guy. He has truly enjoyed his journey. He 190 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: enjoyed being a freshman, he enjoyed camp, he enjoys spring practice. 191 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and watching him coming here and and have 192 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: this self awareness to him, Yeah, he knows he's really talented, 193 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: but he's never satisfied. And he knew he needed to 194 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: get bigger or stronger, faster, more knowledgeable all these things. 195 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: And to watch him attack that process, uh, with just 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: great joy of his journey. It was really cool and 197 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: and you know, proved that he could he deserved to 198 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: be the guy had to go earn it. And then 199 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: he does that, Well, then leus you know, become a 200 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: leader of the offense, and that is let's become a 201 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: leader of the team. Then it was let's become a 202 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: leader of college football, you know, and let's become a 203 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: leader in your community. And so it's just watching him 204 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: go through that journey, it's been pretty special and do 205 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: it with such grace and such humility and with the 206 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: brightest of the brightest of the brightest lights and unbelievable scrutiny. 207 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, what these kids go through today. It's so 208 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: different than when when we were coming up, you know, 209 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the scrutiny is unbelievable. But there's never been 210 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: a guy more prepared than Trevor. He's been dealing with this. 211 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: Sin's the ninth grade when he won the job as 212 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: a fourteen year old at Cartersville, which is a great program, 213 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: and he beat out a senior quarterback, a really talented 214 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: player who, by the way, was the starting tight end 215 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: in Alabama this year. Okay, but he had been a 216 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: quarterback up until Trevor made him a tight end. Uh. 217 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: And in the rest history he's gonna be gonna be 218 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: drafted this year as well. In fact, he was at 219 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: his wedding and you you just think about, you know, 220 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: a senior in high school, I mean, a great player 221 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Division one guy who who's who's path changed because of Trevor, 222 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: you know. But but you gotta give that kid a 223 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: lot of credit. He stayed at Cartersville and said, hey, 224 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: well look this guy. You know, I'll move to another 225 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: position next thing. You know, he signs as a tight 226 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: end in Alabama and now he's getting ready to be drafted. Uh. 227 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: And I think that says a lot about that young 228 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: man as well. And I got a chance to see 229 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: him at Trevor's wedding. Here's a fourteen year old with 230 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: the weight of a whole program. I mean a town 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: Cartersville is Friday night lights. Now, this is a this 232 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: is this is big time high school football. Like they're 233 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: passionate about him. And here's this fourteen year old with 234 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: long hair at six six. First of all, man, I 235 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. I mean when he walked in the 236 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: in the room. But just the expectations, the scrutiny, the 237 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: social media, you know, the you know, then you get 238 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: into the seven on seven is the elite eleven is 239 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: you're supposed to win every week, you know all that, 240 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: and then you're supposed to come to Clempson. You're supposed 241 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: to win the job. You're supposed to go to national championship, 242 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do this, this, this, and you know, 243 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be the number one thing. He's been 244 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: dealing with this stuff forever. But guess what, that's his norm. 245 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: That's that's what he's used to. That's normal to him. 246 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: But the beautiful thing about him is he's not he's 247 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: not driven by that stuff. He is a very That's 248 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: why he fit our program very well because he's a 249 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: very inside out person. He's he's strong in his faith, 250 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: incredibly strong in his faith. Uh, he's driven by that, 251 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: he's grounded by that. I mean, he just married his 252 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: middle school sweetheart, you know, I mean days in middle school, 253 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: all through high school, all through Can you imagine Trevor 254 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence walking around on a college campus, you know, I mean, 255 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: but yet he's very loyal and committed and so, you know, Buck, 256 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: one of the interesting things from Dabbo there, I thought, 257 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: you know, going back to high school and you're a freshman, 258 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: you beat out a Division one caliber athlete, which he 259 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: did in the in Miller for Stall. Uh. There at 260 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Curtisville High School. I mean that's when you're starting your 261 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: your your career off on the right foot. Yeah. I 262 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: think there's something to that because that takeaway he stood 263 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: out to me that Trevor was a firstman in high 264 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: school and he beat out a guy who was a 265 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: D one player. Um. But the other thing when Dabbo 266 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: talks about Trevor Navitt asked about other quarterbacks along the way. Uh, 267 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: he was focused, I mean on his own process, didn't 268 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: worry about competition and all the other guys. And for 269 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: a five star recruit, a guy who has been celebrated 270 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: as maybe QB one, uh, to never worry about those things, 271 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: it speaks volumes about his confidence and his self esteem 272 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: that he didn't let insecurities kind of get in the 273 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: way of what he wanted to accomplish. Very comfortable in 274 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: his own skin. I think we can definitely get that vibe, 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: and you'll get that vibe as well as you go 276 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: through these interviews. You're gonna hear from Dabbo a little 277 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: bit later on as well. Um. But as we're talking 278 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: about his development. There's nobody better to talk to when 279 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about a player's development than his parents. Uh. 280 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: We had a chance to visit with Jeremy and Amanda 281 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: Lawrence about their son Trevor. Jeremy and Amanda, I guess 282 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: my first question would be, at what point in time 283 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: did you realize that your son Trevor was a good 284 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: athlete forget good football player, But what what was that 285 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: moment like where you went, Okay, this this gets pretty good. 286 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: Three or four years although he was very athletic and 287 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: enjoyed playing everything, so I didn't know about football at 288 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: that point obviously, but three or four years old. Yeah, 289 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: And when he five, he was on the soccer team 290 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: because he was not able to play football yet he 291 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: was old enough he didn't meet the age requirement, and 292 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: so like he would just get the ball and score, 293 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: and finally the coach of the other team was like, listen, 294 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: you gotta take him out because he is just making 295 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: all the goals. And it was a it was on 296 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: a wrecked team. It was a church league team team, 297 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: so that they didn't, you know, really keep scoring that 298 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: much anyway, but every time the ball was passed like 299 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Trevor would get it and go score and they're like, okay, 300 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: you gotta take him out. Well, that speaks a little 301 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: bit to his competitiveness. When did you guys discovered that 302 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: part of his personality? How competitive he was younger two 303 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: or three, he was. He was always been very He 304 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: was more vigorously intense. Back then you could really see it. 305 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: You don't see a lot of it now. It's very competitive, 306 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: but he was very You would have thought he would 307 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: have been a linebacker at that age. He was really 308 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: really vocal and aggressive. Aman, I'm curious what your thoughts 309 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: were on him playing football. I mean, I know where 310 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: the where the grades. He said, he's an academic All American, 311 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: So I'm curious. What was that like the first time 312 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: he decided he was going to go into the football business. Well, really, 313 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I really didn't think that much 314 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: about it because my brothers are football players. So I 315 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: grew up with football, and I mean they were football players. 316 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Obviously they're not now, but um, yeah, I grew up 317 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: with football, and you know, I was just glad Trevor 318 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: had the football being the quarterback because I could tell 319 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: what's going on and so in thinking about him becoming 320 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Was that something that was just his calling? 321 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Was he just drawing to that position or did you 322 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: have a coach that said, hey, you know what, I 323 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: think you'd be a really good quarterback. He was drawn 324 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: to it, and he was a natural to it. I mean, 325 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: as he got older, we did some camps and uh, 326 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: at thirteen, I started putting him with the trainer something 327 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: he was He was just a natural at it and 328 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I really like to throw and mark at it. So 329 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: now he was just blessed with that ability to throw 330 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: the football. Jeremy, I want to go back to you 331 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: on this one real quick. High school, he starts as 332 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: a freshman, um, and then next you know, as the 333 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: high school career goes on multiple state championships, he ends 334 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: up being the number one recruiting the country. Um, when 335 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: was the time where you started realizing, Okay, this is 336 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: not just he's not just a big deal in our town. 337 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: He's becoming a national recruit here in a national figure 338 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: in the sport. After his in the spring after his 339 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: freshman year, Um, you know, all American honors and recruiting 340 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: stepped up. So I mean we we saw things in 341 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: the eighth grade that we're kind of heading in that direction, 342 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: but nothing like after his freshman year in high school 343 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: he was max Preps Freshman, All American and All State 344 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So, um, it did not slow 345 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: down after that. And so you talk about it not 346 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: slowing down. How is he able to handle the weight 347 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: of expectations when he became a big name. I think 348 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: he's handled it very well. He's still the same guy 349 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: as before. Um, with family and you know, he had 350 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: exposure to it really going fourteen years old. So um. 351 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: The downside of that is he was fourteen years old, 352 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: so you lose you know, you don't necessarily want kids 353 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: at that age to have to deal with so much. 354 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: But by the time he made it to college, it 355 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: really helped him because he had been exposed to the media, 356 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: exposed to a lot of pressure, you know, all the 357 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: things that go along with that. Handled pressure pretty well. 358 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, with all the fame as it's grown, Um, 359 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: he's really he's really done well with it. He's always 360 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: they pretty focused and you know, just handled all even 361 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: the prize and the criticism very well. It's crazy, Bucky, 362 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: how the the recruiting thing has changed. You know used 363 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: to be after your junior year, that's when the recruiting 364 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: process starts. Now it's pretty much over by then. I 365 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: mean this he he knew his son was a national 366 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: recruit after his freshman year in high school. Yeah, I 367 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: mean big time and big time from a small town one. 368 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: The high school program that he played at Cartersville was outstanding. 369 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean you talked about a team does a perennial power. 370 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: He takes over all the pressure and expectations for him 371 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to keep that thing going. He was able to, but too, 372 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: emerging quickly as a national recruit and getting the interest, 373 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: but Trevor not really being phased by um. Once again, 374 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that we will hear 375 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: from those who know him will um the pressure and 376 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: the hype and all those other things never really impacted 377 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: the way he played, And I think it takes a 378 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: very very mature young player to be able to handle 379 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: of those things without it kind of creeping in and 380 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: filtering into their play. Well. I think you know, when 381 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: you talk about being even even keeled's probably a skill 382 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: set that would serve you well in the art world. UM. 383 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: I bring that up because one of the more fascinating 384 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: things about Trevor is his family, and it is his 385 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: brother Chase, who was actually an artist, an accomplished artist. 386 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: Um And to me, you look at two guys grow 387 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: up in the same household and pursued different passions, both 388 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: do them very well. Um and I think there's some 389 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: similarities you can learn from the two of them, which 390 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: is why we wanted to talk with Chase to get 391 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: his take on growing up with Trevor and what that 392 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: was like. So here's our conversation with Chase Lawrence. What 393 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: was it like growing up in the household there? And 394 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: I would love to know how you got on your 395 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: path that led you to be a very successful painter 396 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: and sculptor. Um. Well, Trevor always played sports and like 397 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: loved baseball, love basketball, pretty much everything except soccer. I 398 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: remember when he was in kindergarten. Uh, they wouldn't let 399 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: him play football, so all he could do is play soccer, 400 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: and he like mowed everyone down. So uh he he 401 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: always played uh sports and loved it. And I, you know, 402 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: I tried to play basketball. I liked it when I 403 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: was really young, and then as I got older, I 404 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, I didn't have have as much 405 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: of an interest and everything. But um, he was busy 406 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: all the time when we were kids, so um, you know, 407 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: sports and everything. So like I didn't really even see 408 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: him a whole lot like once he was like in 409 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: middle school, um, and then into high school. He was 410 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: just always busy. Boat. Oh we got to hang out 411 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: like on the weekends and stuff like that. But um, yeah, 412 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: as far as me and art goes, I always was 413 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: a drawer and a painter. That was kind of all 414 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: I ever really wanted to do professionally. Um, and I 415 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: kind of set my mind to that, uh around my 416 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: middle school years. I think around like seventh grade, I 417 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna do it no matter what it. 418 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: I put all my eggs in one basket and uh. 419 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: And then I went to art school and here we are. 420 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: So now that's cool. So you talked about you guys 421 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: like obviously developing your passions or finding your passions early 422 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: in middle school. You with art, uh Trevor obviously with 423 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: sports and football. What is it like, Because you guys 424 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: are I'm sure sibling you have a little bit of 425 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: that competitiveness, but in your own field, what was it 426 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: like in that household? You guys pursuing two completely different 427 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: tracks but supporting one another. Um. So crazy thing is, 428 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: you can ask anyone. I'm not a competitive person at all, 429 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: so competition doesn't even like exist in my mind. Uh 430 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: as far as like personal personal things go. But um, 431 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: so I never felt everyone asked me that, They're like, well, 432 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: how did you feel growing up? You know, Trevor being 433 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: like an all star athlete and everyone is giving him 434 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: all his attention. Um, and I just I was just 435 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: happy and proud of him, like I had never felt 436 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: jealous or anything like that. Um. But uh, also, my family, 437 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, they love sports, and you know, sports is 438 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: a lot more popular to your lay person than art is, 439 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: so like people just go crazy over sports, and so 440 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: I was kind of like the black sheep of the family. 441 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: But my family's you know, I'm close with all of them, 442 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: so you know, we all have a great relationship and everything. 443 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I think Trevor started caring more about 444 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: art and uh kind of what I was doing more, 445 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, as he was like in his maybe junior 446 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: senior year of high school. And then I think that's 447 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: around the time I started caring more about what he 448 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: did as well. So we talked about how you guys 449 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: can be different. But I'd be curious as somebody who 450 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: knows very little about art. I'm gonna be fully, fully 451 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: honest here, but I would imagine to finish and complete 452 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: a project has to require tremendous poise and focus. And 453 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean because those are two of the attributes. When 454 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: we watch and study you know, Trevor, we would say, okay, 455 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: those are two of his greatest attributes. Do you see that? 456 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: Is there a parallel? Is there a connection there? Absolutely? Yeah, 457 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think, uh, the concept of that skill 458 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: is exactly the same, but the way it's executed and 459 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: the way it is an action is different. Because timing 460 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: with him is like everything is a split second. You 461 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: have to be a very quick thinker, and I think 462 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: with me it's uh, or with art and artist it's 463 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: more of a slow thinking process. Um. But it's the 464 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: same type of like problem solving, um, execution and thinking 465 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: about that you talked about the creative mind and the 466 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: creative aspect of what you have, while it also retains 467 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: a level of discipline. If Trevor was ever to come 468 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: to you utilizing your experience as an artist to help 469 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: him as a player, what kind of advice would you 470 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: give in terms of helping him become great in his 471 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: own respective field. Um, embrace the creativity. People don't think, 472 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: you know, athletes are creatives, but and maybe you know 473 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: they're not always exactly, But I think quarterbacks are especially 474 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: creative as athletes because you have to see, you know, 475 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: the whole picture, all the different ways you can go, 476 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: all the all the intricacies and details of like how 477 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, dodge the other players, and you know, 478 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you have to visually 479 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: make sense of what's going on and find the solution. 480 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: And I think that is I mean almost like the 481 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: definition of creativity. So, is there a story when Trevor 482 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: was growing up where you where you saw him actually 483 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: have a temper, maybe a temper tantrum, or he got 484 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: a little upset, or we saw some some of that 485 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: raw motion come out because you guys seem so chill. Yeah, 486 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: so this is me. I tell everyone this, and my 487 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: my dad does too, and my mom and our grandparents ever, 488 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: the whole family really. Um. So, he never really had 489 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: a temper that I remember, but when he was a kid, 490 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: he was insane. I mean, he would never wear clothes. 491 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: He would run down the street butt naked. Uh, he 492 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: would jump on coffee tables. He would say like the 493 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: most embarrassing out of pocket stuff in public and stores 494 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: wherever we're at, and uh, man, we thought he was 495 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna be so wild as he got older and really 496 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: be a handful, but he is now like the complete opposite. 497 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: So it's fascinating how how he is now because that 498 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: is not the same child. Like yeah, so it's funny 499 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: as you say that, because he does always appear to 500 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: be really cool and composed emploised, Um he is is 501 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: his demeanor? Like is he really like that all the time? Um? 502 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: I always say this, And like every interview, like Trevor's 503 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: very like goofy and always joking. He's like never serious 504 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: unless you know we're having like a heart to heart 505 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: discussion or something. But even then he still cracks a 506 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: few jokes. But when he's like being interviewed or something, 507 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: he gets like this like interview based on he's like 508 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: very like serious and um almost like monotone a little bit. 509 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: And I'm probably the same way. But when we're just 510 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: hanging out and stuff, he's just so silly and just 511 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: a jokester and uh, a super lighthearted guy. Um, and 512 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: it's just kind of like a completely different side of 513 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: him that I feel like a lot of like fans 514 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: and stuff don't don't actually see. But um, it looks 515 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: like he has a bright futurehead of him, So I'm 516 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: sure it'll start coming out more. First of all, buck 517 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: from Chase's standpoint as of to me, that not not 518 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: an ounce of jealousy. And I mean I percent believe him. 519 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: They're growing up in a household with a guy who's 520 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: really he's famous. I mean as a high schooler, he's 521 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: famous in your town as well as nationally. Um. But again, 522 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: I think it's just a very rooted, grounded, uh you 523 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: know atmosphere and home that Trevor Lawrence grew up in. Yeah. Absolutely, 524 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: And I think it's very supportive. Actually, um believe that 525 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: his brother's path, a different path as a sculptor and artist, 526 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: may have helped Trevor may helped Trevor when he talks 527 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: about tapping into that creativity and kind of forging your 528 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: own path. I think it is a unique thing. But 529 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: I think Chase gave great insight into Trevor and how 530 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: Trevor was competitive and kind of how he was almost 531 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: like a man amongst boys from the time that he 532 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: was very very little, and all the attention that he 533 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: had on him for his athletic exploits, and once again 534 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: how it didn't really impact him, it didn't change who 535 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: he was as a person. Now this next guest, you 536 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: might ask, why in the world are we gonna talk 537 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: to the mayor of Cartersville? Uh? While because he was 538 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: also the uh he was a guy who was calling 539 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: the games for the local radio station, so he called 540 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences games. UH, and Buck you had a chance 541 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: to visit with Matt Santini. Trevor's gonna roll to his right. 542 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm third down looking to throw under a little bit 543 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: of pressure. Now he's gonna stop, He's gonna run to 544 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: his left, and he's gonna float it to the end zone. 545 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: He's got a man out there, d J. Turner. Did 546 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: he get it in a bounce touchdown? Who want to play? 547 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: By Trevor Proud to have the mayor of Cartersville, Georgia 548 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: and also radio broadcaster at w b h F in Georgia. 549 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Matt Santini, Thanks for joining the MCS podcast. How you doing? 550 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: Thank you Bucky. Pleasure to be with you talk about 551 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: one of our hometown heroes, uh And speaking of uh 552 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: hometown here, obviously, Trevor Lawrence is a big deal down there. 553 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, I want to know, 554 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: how do you jogo duties of being the mayor of 555 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: the town and also the playboff play waste of the 556 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: high school games at high school? Well, that is a 557 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: great question. The mayor's position in Cartersville is a part 558 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: time position. We have a city manager form of government, 559 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: so I get to manage the meetings, be involved with 560 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: a lot of economic development and policy issues. I'm not 561 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: responsible for all the day to day operations. Unfortunately, we've 562 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: got a professional for that. Running the radio station gets 563 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: tricky sometimes, for instance, that new car I'm driving. We 564 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: will not do a story on all the money that's 565 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: missing from city hall. That's pretty funny there. May Now, 566 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: obviously everyone is excited about Trevor Lawrence. I'm sure he 567 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: is celebrated in that hometown. But let's go all the 568 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: way back. What was it like the first time that 569 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: you saw Trevor Lawrence. You know, the story to Trevor 570 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: really begins before he was even in high school. People 571 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: were talking about this eighth grade kid. And Carter's Will 572 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: has a very storied of football program and so they've 573 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: had success, and so it's nothing to see kids come 574 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: through and have a great deal of success. But when 575 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, you hear about this eighth grader that's gonna 576 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: be coming up and plays quarterback and might potentially be 577 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: this fantastic player, it was, you know, you get kind 578 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: of skeptical and you'd be real careful about trying to 579 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: over promote. You know, thirteen or fourteen year old kids, 580 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: they are actually that just kids. But it didn't take 581 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: long that it was that first year where he was 582 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: a freshman. He was rotating quarterback duties with Miller Forrest 583 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: All who went on to play at Alabama. And you know, 584 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: it was the second game, it really was, when they 585 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: were playing North cob They actually ended up losing the 586 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: football game, but Miller had gotten hurt and so the 587 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: keys were really turned over to Trevor at that point. 588 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: They lost the game by one, but it wasn't for 589 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: lack of any effort on his He played a fantastic 590 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: game and from there he just kind of knew that 591 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: there was something special about this kid and from there, 592 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: he just kind of took off and it was really 593 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: amazing the arm strength and the where he places the 594 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: football from from the time he was a freshman early 595 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: in the season was it was just remarkable. Yeah, it 596 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: has to be common to see a young guy handle 597 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: the responsibility to be in the starting quarterback on varsity 598 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: with the level of I don't know, precision and production 599 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: that uh Trevor was able to do. So what are 600 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: some of the highlights that you can remember of Trevor 601 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence's high school career. I look back at his really 602 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: his sophomore year. There were a lot of great accomplishments there. 603 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: The state championship game, a game that Carter's will won't 604 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: only tend to nothing. It wasn't a great statistical game, 605 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: but his leadership was was very evident. And you know, 606 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: it's the thing that I've told people from the very beginning. 607 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: You see the long hair and you think, oh, he's 608 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't everybody calls him sunshine, you know, try to 609 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: relate to to remember the Titans. I've told people since 610 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: before he left, Carter's belt's like, man, the thing that 611 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: people forget about or they miss on him. He's faster 612 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: than you think he is. He's deceptively elusive, and he 613 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: likes contact a lot more than people think. He has 614 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: always been a super competitor, a super leader, and and 615 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: again a level of toughness that goes I think still 616 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: kind of underrated. You know, it's funny because you talk 617 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: about those trades. I believe, uh, humility as a trade 618 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: that is also associated with Trevor Lawrence. Uh. Do you 619 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: have any examples of how humble Trevor Lawrence is despite 620 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: all the accolades that have come his way. I can 621 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: probably talk more about that seeing what he's done and 622 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: the person he is off the field than I can 623 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: on the field. Um. You know, I look at the 624 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: fact that on Fridays he would go to the elementary 625 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: school and visit with with kids who just wanted to 626 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: see him and meet him. I remember going out to 627 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: a local restaurant and he was there with his girlfriend 628 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: now fiance soon to be wife, enjoying lunch, and there 629 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: were adults coming up to him wanting to try to 630 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: talk to him. And I also saw a number of 631 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: other high school players that obviously weren't nearly as good 632 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: as him, who were acting like there were a lot 633 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: better than uh, you know, they had that high school attitude, 634 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, just acting like here I am, I'm a 635 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: high school football player, and look at look at and 636 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: and he just sat there quietly in the corner and 637 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: was eating his lunch and being respectful to everybody. I 638 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: think about really his time at Clemson. There's a young 639 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: man here who had a heart transplant, had an unexpected 640 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: heart issue, and and Trevor, you know, really snuck back 641 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: into town. I say, he came home, there wasn't a 642 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of fanfare and came to visit the young man who, 643 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: you know, just to bring him a jersey and tell 644 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: him he's thinking about him. It's it's those types of 645 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: things that really stand out to me with the person 646 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is. It's it's really the things off 647 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: the field. And I've said it, there's a lot of 648 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: adults that can learn how to behave as a good 649 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: human being from this very young man. Yeah, there are 650 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people that can learn a lot of 651 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: different things from Trevor Lawrence. You talked about his personality, 652 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: his humility, the leadership ability, but there are a lot 653 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: of people that are really fascinated by the talent so 654 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: you have to tell me about this this this throw 655 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: that I keep hearing about. It's called the throw versus 656 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: Mary Peterson in the playoffs to semifinals back in twenty 657 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: SI team. What am I missing? Tell me about the throw? 658 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: It just came, uh, coming off that big win on 659 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: the road against Woodward Academy. They were at home. You 660 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: had to feel good about it. And right out of 661 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: the gate Cartersville was down fourteen and nothing. There was 662 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: a very rare turnover and and touchdown, and and then 663 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: another quick touchdown. So there's Cartersville playing at home, down 664 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 1: fourteen and nothing. He leads them down the field and uh, 665 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: it was I can't remember the down, but I remember 666 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: him just rolling to his right, uh, and everybody was covered. 667 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: He he pumped faked uh the quarter. The linebacker jumps 668 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: in there. He does a total spin around and turns 669 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: to his left, throws it across the field and drops 670 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: it right over the shoulder of a receiver on the 671 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: other side of the field. Uh, and got got his 672 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: foot in bounds and it was a touchdown. And from 673 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: there they they went on and won that game. Uh, 674 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: rather largely after that, but again down fourteen and nothing, 675 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: had the had the president to make this great athletic play. 676 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure is one of a ton of highlight plays 677 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: that he made during his time at Cardsfield. Are there 678 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: any of the highlight players that stand out to you? Well, 679 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: I think from a highlight perspective, I'll tell you the 680 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: thing that that sticks out in my mind is enjoying 681 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: watching him play at Clemson. It was one of the 682 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: first nationally televised games that he was on and watching 683 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: the announcers. He was having a big game. I can't 684 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: remember the opponent, but listening to the announcers towards the 685 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: end of the game, trying to come up with something 686 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: different to say and trying to come up words to 687 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: describe what he was doing. And I remember putting out 688 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: on social media said I'm enjoying watching that. I had 689 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: to come up with four years worth of of words 690 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: to try to describe what this guy is doing, and 691 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: they were having trouble getting through one college football game 692 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: with it. That's that's part of the That's part of 693 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: what I'll remember the most. The other part that I 694 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: remember is there's a local team up here that their 695 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: student run Twitter site decided that they were going to 696 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: try to talk a little bit of trash about coming 697 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: into town and you know, getting some resent revenge for 698 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: a big game that Cartersville had won rather handily the 699 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: year before. And Trevor, uh, they tweeted at him and 700 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: that wasn't a good thing to do. And you know, 701 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: he's real responsible on social media too, and he just 702 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: tweeted out two words, wrong move. And shortly after that 703 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: their Twitter account apologized and uh, after that, they came 704 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: to Cartersville. Actually it was we went up to carters 705 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: to Calhoun and won that game by account of fifty 706 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: eight to six. It was over. Obviously, Yeah, obviously you 707 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: don't want to poke the bear. But let's talk about 708 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: the town. How does the town feel about Trevor Lawrence 709 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: and all that he has become since he's left high school. 710 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a double edged sword for 711 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: me in a good way. I mean, he is he 712 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: has put Cartersville in the spotlight. Certainly. We're a very 713 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: proud community of over twenty thousand people. We've got we're 714 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: the home of Ronnie Brown who enjoyed success in the NFL, 715 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: Andre Fluellen, who did as well, and both great young 716 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: men who have contributed back to the community. Uh in 717 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: our county. We also have Vic Beasley, who was a 718 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: little bit north of here, who has enjoyed time in 719 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: the NFL and again giving back to the community. Great 720 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: people as in addition, but you know, Cartersville had the opportunity, 721 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: because of Trevor Lawrence to be on ESPN and play 722 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: a football game in our home stadium and to spotlight 723 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: our community on ESPN or you know, and anywhere nationally. 724 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, there was an ad campaign 725 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: for Adidas that featured carters Vill's football uniforms on there. 726 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: It wasn't our players, but it was our uniforms and 727 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: the level of of attention that we have gotten in 728 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: positive attention because of Trevor Lawrence. There's kids, listen, there's 729 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: been kids in this town when when Trevor was still 730 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: here where where number sixteen purple jerseys. Now everybody's been 731 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: wearing you know, purple excuse me, orange number sixteen jerseys. 732 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: And unless something really really strange happened of biblical proportions, 733 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of teal sixteen jerseys being 734 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: worn around Cartersville. And I'll probably buy one myself. Man well, 735 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: I know it's an exciting time. It's an exciting time 736 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, it's an exciting time for everyone in 737 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: the Cartersville Georgia. Mayor Mass and Tinny thanks so much 738 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: for joining the Movie six podcast. Thanks Bucky how Buck. 739 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: That was awesome, man. I'm glad you've got a chance 740 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: to visit with him. Uh. Again, people knew about Trevor 741 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: Lawrence is an eighth grader. I mean, so when we 742 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, expectation and what the expectation could 743 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: be at the next level, this kid's been dealing with 744 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: expectations since he was thirteen fourteen years old. Yeah, and 745 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: and I think there that's something too, being comfortable being 746 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: in the spotlight. We always talked about franchise quarterbacks and 747 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: all of the stuff that comes along with the responsibilities 748 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: to increase attention and scrutiny. Where Trevor Lawrence has been 749 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: dealing with that literally since seven and eighth grade. Uh. 750 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: To step up in Cartersville, and even though we can 751 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: talk about it being a small town football was big 752 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: to handle that pressure, to handle the responsibility to beat 753 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: out um a player who was older, and then to 754 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: continue to keep Cartersville winning at a high level speaks 755 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: volumes about who Trevor Lawrence is and and why there's 756 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: so many Scotts to really love what he could be 757 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: at the next level, no doubt. Well I mentioned him 758 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier and visiting with Trent Dilfer up 759 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: there at the at the opening the Elite eleven event 760 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: that you're a part of buck Um. But to get 761 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: some more thoughts on Trevor Lawrence from Trent, I thought 762 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: was something we had to do here with this three 763 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: sixty episode, and you had a chance to visit with 764 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: our buddy Trent Dilford. Obviously this is a fun time 765 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: for us because I feel like we get a chance 766 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: to see these young quarterbacks grow up in front of 767 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: our eyes. And so what I would like to do 768 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: is go back to seventeen. Two of the top guys 769 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: that came through the process process Trevor Lawrence, justin Fields. 770 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: Let's start with Trevor Lawrence. When you first laid eyes 771 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence, what did you think? I think he 772 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: was a sophomore freshman high school. I can't remember, uh, 773 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: And I just said, I mean, here was a that 774 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: already was mature beyond his years. Obviously was a great athlete, 775 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: but was also pretty clean. You have been coached very 776 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: well in Georgia by Joey King. Uh had developed well, 777 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: had played a lot of seven on seven and already 778 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: had played a lot of football at the varsity level. 779 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: So uh he he looked like a man even when 780 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: he was fifteen, sixteen years old, And as he went 781 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: through the level process, he only grew bigger and stronger 782 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: and more powerful and honed his craft. And but the 783 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: thing I always the story I always say about Trevor 784 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: isn't the physical stuff. It's the mental stuff. It's the 785 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: competitive stuff. I remember at the opening, Uh, there he 786 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,959 Speaker 1: was there. Uh he was a sponge with Craig Noll, 787 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: one of our coaches who played seven years in the NFL, 788 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,479 Speaker 1: and you know, was bugging him late at night, going 789 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: into his room after hours and asked him to teach 790 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: him more ball. This is a kid that loves football. 791 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: He loves to learn. He has zero entitlement to him. 792 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: He has no ego as the team above self guy. 793 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: So he checks every single boxer is to check as 794 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: a prospect, and he was checking it back when he 795 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: was seventeen years old. I mean I remember seeing watching 796 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: him at the opening saying, this guy could go to 797 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: an NFL training camp right now, uh and throw one 798 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: on one throw routes on air and look like an 799 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. You know, it's funny that you you talk 800 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: about that. I just think to remember that it got 801 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: tough for him a little bit at at the opening 802 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: um in the finals, what did you discover and watching 803 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: him go through some adversity Uh, as a young person. Well, 804 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing I look for, to be clute 805 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: honest with you, a lot. I based a lot of 806 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: my evaluations off how they respond to setback. Uh. We 807 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: look at it in game with an acronym pace plays 808 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: after critical blares, Uh, study that really hard. And then 809 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: in that environment a camp environment, or at a high 810 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: school football game environment, a practice environment off the field, 811 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: a guy, can you be a knuckle head off the field, 812 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: and how does he respond to that after the facts. 813 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: So I think it's I think that metric or that 814 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 1: evaluation has a lot to do with their long term 815 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: success because you're gonna have a lot of setbacks, You're 816 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of adversity. Uh. And it's it's 817 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: not what happened to you, it's how you respond to it. 818 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: And Trevor is a guy that whether it was the opening, 819 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: whether it was not winning the final game of his 820 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: high school career, whether it was a setback at Clemson, 821 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: he's always been a guy that bounces back better the 822 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: next opportunity. And that's really what you're looking for. Me. 823 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's doing a lot of interceptions. He's lost a 824 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: lot of games, he's had a lot of stinkers, he's 825 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: had a lot of bad series. I think what separates 826 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: him is that relentless pursuit of the next opportunity, and 827 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: that's why he's been at his best for twenty one 828 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: years in those situations. Yeah, I mean kind of echoed 829 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: what what he had said to me, right Buck, I mean, 830 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: it looked like an NFL quarterback as a as a 831 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: high schooler. He did. And Trent talked about the adversity 832 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,479 Speaker 1: that Trevor faced during that event, and I would say, 833 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: having competed against Trevor doing that event, it was difficult 834 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: for him because it had been very very easy for 835 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: him to dominate. And it's the first time that I 836 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: always say the playing field is level, and so to 837 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 1: see Trevor have some struggles, but to see the resiliency, 838 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: the toughness, to grit and determination where he was able 839 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: to bounce back and finish off strong. Um. Once again, 840 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: when you're evaluating quarterbacks, you're always looking at how did 841 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: they respond to bad things? That event Trent kind of 842 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: talked about. But but Trent kind of saw some of 843 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: those things that we all see and we all like 844 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: about him, his building, his toughness because I think that 845 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: toughness comes out in a few different occasions. And you 846 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: no doubt. Um, our next guest here is somebody that's 847 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: known Trevor again going all the way back to seventh grade. UM. 848 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: So we're getting some some some really good looks at 849 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence from different angles. Here. Uh, this is a 850 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: ron Ville who is a private quarterback coach against work 851 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: with Trevor lawrencens middle school and we had a chance 852 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: to visit with ron. The first time that you met 853 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: Trevor when was that? And uh, and tell us a 854 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: little bit about that one. Well, the first time I 855 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: met him was at a football camp around the age 856 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: well high school seven, I mean he middle school, round 857 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: the seventh grade. He came out to account um long 858 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: and lanky, and one of the parents and introduced me 859 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: to him, and that's how I started, you know, and 860 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: thinking about him being long and lanky, Coach, how are 861 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: you able to build up his mechanics so he was 862 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: able to come such an efficient passer at the high school? Look, 863 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: I really think that was it was already there. He 864 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: was more bottoms up guy. Why you would work on 865 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: his footwork because his delivery was already there. We just 866 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: cleaned up a little bit as he as he matured 867 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: and his body caught up to his age and his growth. 868 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 1: But for as like throwing the ball, that was already there. 869 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: It was just I think he's just a natural for 870 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: a one no doubt coach. When you when you look 871 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: at Trevor, we see it, you know. We saw in 872 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: the Ohio State game in twenty nineteen when he took 873 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: off and ran um just the example of the the 874 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: athlete that he is. Lawrence took a feat outfield, had 875 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: a lot of World Brets tackle and is still running 876 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: in the rights. Well that catch him touched tigers. Wow, Hey, 877 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: game change he playing? Is there a moment uh during 878 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: your time training with him, working out with him that uh, 879 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: that kind of jumped out to you. Just his overall athleticism. Yeah, 880 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: I always you know, he played baseball as well, so 881 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: he was well around the athlete. He was always athletic, 882 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: and the drills that we would do for us, like 883 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 1: his movements in the pocket, getting out, throwing the ball 884 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: of the run, so those things were there. I just 885 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: didn't know he was that fast. Um when he ran 886 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: away from those guys Ohio State, he showed great length 887 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: and he covered a lot of ground. You know, coach, 888 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: you talk about the athleticism, one of the things that 889 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: Trevor is known for is his competitiveness. When you've been 890 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: working with him, have you seen examples or do you 891 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: have examples of when that competitive fire has come out. Yeah. 892 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: I think he's more of a perfectionist with the competitiveness. 893 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: Every ball has to be in a great place for him. Um, 894 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: that didn't feel right, didn't come up right. Um. He 895 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: always worked on his craft for us, like timing and anticipation. 896 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: So I think that competitive edge is always there, especially 897 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 1: in the game. I think everybody see how he looks 898 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: and thinks that he might be a soft kid, but 899 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: he's very um competitive and he'll fight you fight you 900 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: to the end, which we know he had a huge 901 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: reputation coming out of high school. Do you remember when, um, 902 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 1: that kind of exploded when he started to get really 903 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: a lot of attention locally and then kind of growing 904 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: beyond locally to nationally. And how did he handle that? 905 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: I think he held well, I answered the back end 906 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: for all the attention that he received during high school, 907 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: and it even started in middle school with him because 908 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: everybody knew who he was. And he started as a 909 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: freshman in high school as a ninth grader playing football 910 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: here in Georgia. That's pretty impressive. And he started for 911 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: four years and he went to it. I think three 912 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: state championships in one a couple of state championships, and 913 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: for as the hype of it, I always remember we 914 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: was at a Chick fil a one day watching film 915 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: and its elderly lady said, you are Trevor Lawrence. He said, like, 916 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: did you mondif I take a picture to get an autograph? 917 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: And he was so gracious in that it wasn't arrogant 918 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So at that point in time, 919 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: I knew that he learned how to deal with his status. Um, 920 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 1: as a I would say a celebrity. Yeah, real quick. 921 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,479 Speaker 1: But I gotta follow up on that coach as somebody 922 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: who played quarterback. If my if I had a quarterback 923 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: coach who was training me at a Chick fil A, 924 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: I do believe I would have far exceeded the level 925 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: at which I played. I mean, that is that's next 926 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 1: level right there. I also broke the spot man that 927 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: we would go to a review fan like all the stuff, 928 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: but it worked for him. It was right close the 929 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: street from his eyes. Uh, that's funny, coach Um. One 930 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: thing on Trevor, because you talked about him being a freshman, uh, 931 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: leading a team that was everybody success. And one of 932 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: the things that he's known for is winning. What is 933 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: it about him that enables him to get his team 934 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: to the winner's circle consistently. I think he's just not 935 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: a selfish person and he could make other people around 936 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: him better, even from to the last guy on the 937 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,919 Speaker 1: roster to the first guys on the roster. I think 938 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: he treats everybody the same, and he leads by example. 939 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: He's not a guy, but he leads by example. He's 940 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna be the first in, the last one out. He's 941 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: gonna encourage, encourage, encourage and that's the biggest things I 942 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: see from him. What was the reaction from from the 943 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: community seeing after he goes to Clemson and that game 944 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: where he is a young player tears up this legendary 945 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: Alabama defense to win a national championship. What was the 946 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: was the reaction from folks in town there? Well, you know, 947 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: he's an auth of Atlanta in Cartersville, I'm sure he 948 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: was praise to the hilt. But what he's doing for 949 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: the kids here in Atlanta in the metro area is 950 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: just showing that there's a way that you can accomplish 951 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: all of these things by just doing work and being 952 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: being humble as you go about what you're doing. And 953 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: the just sensor come from the hard work, and I 954 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,479 Speaker 1: think he put in a whole lot of hard work 955 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: along with the talent that he has. With those two 956 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: kids being together, coach, Um, did they ever trained together? 957 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: Did Justin and Trevor ever trained together? And if so, 958 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: what was that like? Well, we only did it one time, 959 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: I said, too, But they said one, Um, we had 960 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 1: it where after their freshman year at Georgia or going 961 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: into the freshman year at Georgia and Clemson, we had 962 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: him on the field together and usually neither one of 963 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: them talk during a session. So this session was even 964 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: extra quiet because you could see the competitive level go 965 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: and go and go, and there was this type of 966 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: session where you don't really say much, you just watch 967 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 1: and enjoy it because it was a much to say. 968 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: It was just they they went at it from head 969 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: i'm the start to the finish, and it's pretty good. 970 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: It's pretty good, you know, coach. How unusual is it 971 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: they have to I mean, top picks within thirty five 972 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: miles of each other. Is there a high better quarterback 973 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: talent in that area in Georgia? Yeah, right now, I'm 974 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: kind of biased, but yeah, I think we have a 975 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: a good group of people training quarterbacks in Atlanta right now. 976 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: And Atlanta has a good group of kids, maybe kids 977 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: right now. Got d one office here in Georgia, and 978 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a hot bed, but something 979 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: is happening and something, something good is happening on our hand, 980 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: and we'll take it. So, like I said, those two 981 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: kids are helping so many other kids that they probably 982 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: don't even know about, for as their dreams of playing 983 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 1: at the next level or even making it to the NFL. 984 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: But what they're doing is really helping a lot of 985 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: kids in the metro. From the standpoint like I can 986 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: do the same thing if I really really focus on 987 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: what I'm doing and and I respect the help, I 988 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: will be humble about the game. There's no where it 989 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: can take me somewhere, you know. Well, a couple of 990 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: takeaways here, Buck. First of all, I love the fact 991 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: that he's doing work in Chick fil A. Uh. That's uh, 992 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: that's a win for me. That that's uh, that's gonna 993 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 1: get you a little bump up in the grade watching 994 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: film it in Chick fil A. But to me, the 995 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: other thing that really stood out is the fact we 996 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: we talked about this phrase. And I think some people 997 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe they think it's it's hokey or what have you. 998 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: But when you say, guys a natural thrower, some of 999 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: these kids you can just tell the first time they 1000 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: picked up a baseball or a football, like that's what 1001 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: it was supposed to look like. And and to me, 1002 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of Trevor just a real easy natural thrower, 1003 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: easy natural thrower, um. And I think the talent is 1004 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,439 Speaker 1: always there when you look at it, because it doesn't 1005 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: look like he exerves a lot of energy and effort 1006 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: when he makes throws. Um Coachville is outlining of Trevor's 1007 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: like perfectionist tendencies and how he just wants to do 1008 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: it right all the time, and how he's driven to, 1009 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: uh do those things. I think that's a common thread 1010 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: this year it amongst great players, and so to identify 1011 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: and spot that in Trevor Lawrence early, I think he 1012 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of highlights why he's been able to have the 1013 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: success that he's had as a young player. Well, he 1014 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: used to say in the draft room, you know, our 1015 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: bosses used to tell us, hey, paint a picture of 1016 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: this player. You know, paint a picture where if we've 1017 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: never seen him before, you got to describe him and 1018 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: tell us about him so we can close our eyes 1019 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: and imagine what he looks like. That's what we're trying 1020 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: to do here in this three sixty episode. So hopefully 1021 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: you've got a good feel for what Trevor was like 1022 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of coming through high school and in the early 1023 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: development and when he got started in this sport. Now 1024 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: we want to transition to what took place once he 1025 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: got the Clemson because he has had one of the 1026 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 1: better college careers of a quarterback that we've seen and gosh, 1027 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: since we've been doing it, buck going back twenty years. Um, 1028 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: so let's jump into that. And to do that, let's 1029 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: bring back coach Dabo Sweeney uh for a little bit 1030 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: about what took place there at Clemson. I think Trevor 1031 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: can be an international superstar. You know, there's not many 1032 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 1: football players have become international superstars. Uh. I think part 1033 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: of the part of that is just because you know, 1034 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: we all wear helmets and uniforms, and you know, you 1035 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: kind of get uh identified by that, and then you 1036 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: take the helmets off, and you know, you become a 1037 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: normal person. Sometimes you blend in. Trevor doesn't blend in, 1038 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: uh in any regard, and I think that. I think 1039 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that, you know, just because 1040 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 1: of his presence, uh, he's got a chance to really 1041 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: transcend the sport. What would you give? Because I know 1042 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: what I would give. What would you give to just 1043 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: be able to wear Trevor's hair for like maybe this 1044 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: like a week, if you could just walk around with 1045 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: that name for a week, what would you give? Well, 1046 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: if I had known you were gonna ask that question, 1047 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,919 Speaker 1: I would I would have put my wig on because 1048 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: I got a Trevor Way U I want on the 1049 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: forehead right there. Uh. You know, I've wanted that for Halloween. 1050 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: I've wanted to a couple of team meetings along the way, 1051 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I've had some fun with that. But 1052 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It seems like a lot 1053 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: of work to me. But uh, you gotta worry about 1054 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: your shampoo and you know, the flip and all that stuff, 1055 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, but hey, it works for him. I don't 1056 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: know that I can pull it off, but I guess 1057 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: six six, Uh you can. It goes with it. But 1058 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, the cool thing about him is he does 1059 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,919 Speaker 1: have this look of Hollywood. You know, he really does, 1060 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 1: like you know, but he I'm telling you, he is 1061 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: the most un Hollywood guy you're ever gonna meet. He 1062 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: is this very simple, very disciplined, uh you know, routine 1063 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: guy and uh just just very normal, very normal guy. Uh. 1064 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, he looks like this, you know, like 1065 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: he's got all this uh you know, almost some prima 1066 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: donna to him. But he does it. Man, He's he 1067 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: probably uses panteen, you know, simple shampoo. Probably don't have 1068 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: anything fancy or anything like that. We have to do. 1069 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: We have to do comps, right, so you know, for 1070 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: the network, we always have to come up with comparisons 1071 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: for these guys. And so with Trevor, I said, well, 1072 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: he's not there's not one comp f M. He's kind 1073 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: of a unicorn of that in that degree. So to me, 1074 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: I just said, look, he's got justin Herbert's frame, he's 1075 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,399 Speaker 1: got Jennifer Anderson's hair, you know, like that's that's a 1076 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 1: That's as good as I can come up with. Yeah, 1077 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't really have a comp for him either. I mean, 1078 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: I really don't. There is one, right, I don't know. 1079 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: He is he is. He is very unique, you know, 1080 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people. In fact, we did 1081 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,720 Speaker 1: I just did a thing with the he and Peyton. 1082 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: We did a little thing down at the Golf turn 1083 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: Master's Golf Tournament. That was kind of fun seeing those two, 1084 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: uh you know, because that was really his hero growing up. 1085 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: It was Peyton Manton. That's why we're sixteen. Peyton. Peyton 1086 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: was funny because he was like, if you know, you like, 1087 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: if I was his hero, you I wish you had 1088 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: chosen MoMA mater. Uh you know, but but you know, 1089 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: he's he's he's big like Peyton, uh, but just a 1090 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: better athlete, you know. I mean he can just flat 1091 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: out run. I mean he's so different. Uh I I 1092 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: can't really recall anyone like him that had the combination 1093 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: of that size and speed and and armed talent. Uh. 1094 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: It's it's unique and and just an incredible football I 1095 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: Q to go with it. I mean he's uh, it's 1096 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: got a high aptitude for the game, processes things quickly, 1097 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: anticipates well, you know, it can make all the throws, 1098 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: and got a bright future for sure. Well, I thought 1099 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: it was. It's fascinating. Buck. When we think of comps, 1100 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that there is one. Uh for Trevor. 1101 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: It's just different, right, I Mean we can say a 1102 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: little bit of this guy, a little bit of that guy, 1103 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: but it's uh, as coach said, it's it's hard to 1104 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: come up with one. Yeah, it's hard to come up 1105 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: with one. And when we think about Trevor and you 1106 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: watch him, you know, it's funny because you just don't 1107 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: see guys his size with his athleticism, his arm talent. 1108 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: I know recently we've seen Justin Herbert come into the league. 1109 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: But it's kind of hard to compare somebody like that 1110 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: so quickly. But yeah, Trevor's he's a unique player. He's 1111 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a unicorn at a position. Yeah, no doubt, 1112 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: he's definitely different. Um, alright, let's let's get back to 1113 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: his parents here. Uh, this is Jeremy and Amanda Lawrence 1114 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: about that that magical run there his first year at Clemson. 1115 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: We're pretty fine. Picks up the man. I want to 1116 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: go back to you on this one. The uh, his 1117 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: freshman year, and I see, I believe I don't know 1118 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: if the jersey is behind you are from that from 1119 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: that season or not. But to step on that stage 1120 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: and take over the position when he did, and then 1121 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: to go on that run, Um, I mean, what was 1122 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: that like for you? For you as parents, I'll start 1123 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: with you, man, just to experience what a magical time 1124 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: that was for him and your family. Yeah, it was 1125 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: really exciting. I mean I was so proud of him, 1126 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: and and just you know, he went out and competed 1127 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: and he didn't let any kind of press or you know, 1128 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: um you know, I guess um you know what the 1129 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: press was anticipating or whatever. He didn't let that bother him. 1130 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 1: He knew that he had a job to do when 1131 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: he went to Clemson that he was going to, you know, 1132 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: compete for the starting job. That's what all the quarterbacks 1133 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: do or any position that you're you know, assigned to 1134 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: or that you play, and you know, he gave it 1135 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: his all, and um yeah, I was just super proud 1136 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: of him. You know, I know, you have to be 1137 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 1: proud of not only what he's become on the field, 1138 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: but it seems like over the last year so he's 1139 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: really grown into the leadership position in terms of the 1140 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: face of Clemson. Uh have have you seen him grown 1141 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: from your own eyes as a parent in terms of 1142 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: a leader and as a role model for others? Well, 1143 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean one one thing that comes to mind straightaway 1144 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: is um so high a state game when we were 1145 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: down and then we ended up coming back and and 1146 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: winning that game. I mean, he didn't let anything get 1147 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: him down. He really picked up his team and was like, guys, 1148 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, we can do this, and um really just 1149 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: didn't give up. And he's he's always been persistent in 1150 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: that aspect, and um yeah, I'm just super proud of 1151 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: how he's grown as a leader and that he can 1152 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, be an example to his teammates, hard worker, Um, 1153 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, don't give up. You know, he realizes along 1154 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,439 Speaker 1: with that the platform he has to impact people off 1155 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the field, and he embraces that and uh, you know, 1156 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: really wants to take advantage of that opportunity. So I 1157 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: think he's definitely grown in that capacity, and I think 1158 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: he will continue to do that. Well. This is this 1159 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: is probably the most important question that I have for 1160 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: you guys. You guys have been great with us today. Um, 1161 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 1: I just I gotta know, as somebody who's a little 1162 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: bit thin up here, and as Bucky, who's somebody who's 1163 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: more thin up there? Where does this beautiful flowing hair 1164 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: come from from Trevor? Who did he get his hair from? 1165 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Not for me years and he had a headful hair. 1166 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: That's gonna you realize, guys, that's the first that's the 1167 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: first endorsement deal that's coming. I mean, if it hasn't 1168 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: come already, I mean, that's the first one that's coming up. 1169 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna have a shampoo deal before the first contract 1170 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: is even signed, that's absolutely I do think he's gonna 1171 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: have a shampoo deal. Buck. I think that's coming. That's 1172 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: just a matter of time there. That's that's the easiest 1173 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: marketing that anybody could ever put together. Yeah, I mean absolutely, Look, man, 1174 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: he has he has everything that you look for. You 1175 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 1: it's easy to be jealous when you see a kid 1176 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: who has all the size and physical gifts that that 1177 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: you want. You see the hair, which certainly stands out 1178 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: and makes him an even bigger superstar when you look 1179 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: at it, and then just the overall talent and the 1180 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: way that he wins. Some guys just have that magical 1181 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: ability to get their team to the winner circle. Trevor 1182 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: went on one of the best runs that we've seen 1183 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: in college football in terms of leading the Tigers to 1184 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: their first national championship and fear him to do it 1185 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: as a freshman is uncommon. Definitely great to catch up 1186 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: with his parents again on that topic. All right, let's 1187 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: bring back Trent Um again. Trent knows Trevor going back 1188 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to the Elite eleven and I thought he has a 1189 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: a good feel for the evaluation and what you see 1190 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: when you study and what he did at Clemson. Trevor 1191 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: wins the national title very early in his career, and 1192 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: then he gets Clemson back, but he he loses in 1193 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: the semifinals and then loses in the finals. UM, during 1194 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: those two years and watching him as a college player, 1195 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: what are the things that you're most impressed with and 1196 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: what do you think that he has to continue to 1197 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: work on to be the player that we all think 1198 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: that he could be at the next level. Well, start 1199 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: with what he needs your prove on. And it's been 1200 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: something he's been working on since high school, but just 1201 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: recently in the last couple of months, he's really identified 1202 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: it with Jordan Palmer. I spoke to Jordan a couple 1203 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and the things that Trevor came in 1204 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: wanting to work on the same things that myself and 1205 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Jordan and others kind of identified. He's got to become 1206 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 1: more flexible in his upper torso, so he has very 1207 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: poor thoracic flexibility. Therefore he doesn't rotate as a thrower. 1208 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: He goes distal and forward as a thrower, so he 1209 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: tends to be wide and spread out at times. UM. 1210 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: That leads to some of the inconsistencies. I think he 1211 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 1: addressed that already. He wants to play with a more 1212 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: stable base, he wants to stay more level, So fundamental stuff, 1213 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: fundamental stuff that will lead to more consistency. And that's 1214 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: the only knock you can find on Trevor is that 1215 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 1: every once in a while a ball will get away 1216 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: from him when he's really trying to rip it her 1217 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 1: when he's rushed, because there's some slight tweaks he needs 1218 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: to make fundamentally, but that's really it. He has his 1219 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: good eyes for the game, is good at presence in 1220 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: the pocket, a feel four people around him, when to become, 1221 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: when to attack the line of scrimmage as a runner 1222 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: and win to buy time with shuffles and slides in 1223 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: the pocket. There's a great clip I think it's against 1224 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: Order Dame in the in the playoff game where they're 1225 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: running kind of a dive in fake a crossing route 1226 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 1: and in a high corner off of it, and he's 1227 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: getting pressured and quarterbacks would have not bought the tie 1228 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: to make the throw, and he goes backwards in the 1229 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: pocket because the defensive line linemen are coming up on 1230 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: him and takes probably off the ball and lays it 1231 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: out to a spot and they get thirty yards out 1232 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: of it. A little nuances like that in this game. 1233 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 1: He's playing the professional level game. At the college level, 1234 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: he's a he's a horsepower twitch guy. And I kind 1235 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: of introduced this concept a couple of years ago with 1236 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert as a sophomore and saying, you know, there's 1237 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 1: a guy coming up that has a rare combination of 1238 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 1: horsepower on twitch because simply what she gives you, guys 1239 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 1: have horsepower, they're very powerful, they're strong, UH, they have 1240 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: physical confidence. Think Ben Roethlisberger, Cam Newton, some of the 1241 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: giants of the game, but they lack some twitch. They 1242 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: lack that uh, and the next thing you know they're 1243 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: gone or that their I C and it comes out 1244 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 1: of their hand. And then you see a littler guys 1245 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 1: at times, Johnny Manzil uh, some of the smaller guys 1246 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: that they're so twitchy, but they lack power. Well, very 1247 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: rarely do you find the guys that have both. Uh. 1248 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 1: Andrew luck was really the first one lacked a little 1249 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: twitch but had it. I thought Herbert was another one 1250 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: that had it. UH. And now you're looking at Lawrence, 1251 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 1: who's really the ultimate model horsepower and twitch. So from 1252 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 1: a trade standpoint, that's what it is. And then and 1253 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 1: then he has every throw in the catalog. We always 1254 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: talk about how big is your throw? Catalog. Some guys 1255 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: are great at outbreaking routes, some guys are good at 1256 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: target routes. Some guys throw a lot of crossing routes, 1257 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 1: some guys throw some runaway runaway routes, deep, all quick game, rpo, 1258 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 1: catch and throw, whatever it is, he's got them all. 1259 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: The one thing about this offense is it's I wouldn't 1260 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 1: call it a system, and at times it's lacking. But 1261 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: over his career, they have added volume to the catalog 1262 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: and he's pretty much made every throw you're gonna be 1263 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 1: asked to make in his college career, a deep throw, 1264 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: just the last bree he's done in the end zone touchdob. 1265 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: I like that corsepower twitch. You know, I've used both 1266 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: those individually, talk about guys having horsepower, talking about guys 1267 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 1: having twitch. Trent just combined them all together. Yeah, I 1268 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: mean he does have, I mean extraordinary gifts and and 1269 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 1: that's why because we talked about the six five six 1270 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: six frame, but the athleticism and in the arm talent, 1271 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 1: the whip is outstanding in terms of being able to 1272 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: push it down the field, the way the ball comes out. 1273 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: You've talked earlier about him being a natural thrower. And 1274 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, the the best pictures are the ones that 1275 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: can mix a little power with the little finesse. Trevor 1276 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence is able to do that. It's always great when 1277 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: you can talk to somebody that is an expert at 1278 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback position as well as somebody who's coached against 1279 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. And we had that opportunity to visit with 1280 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 1: David Cutcliffe, who's the head coach at Duke and one 1281 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 1: of the premier voices on the quarterback position. About somebody 1282 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: that you had a chance to coach against. I know 1283 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: somebody that you had on campus as well. You've known 1284 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: for it for a long time, and that's Trevor Lawrence. Um, 1285 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: we all assume he's going to be the first pick 1286 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 1: here to the Jacksonville Jaguars. But what was your first 1287 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: exposure to him? And uh, what was your takeaway? Well, 1288 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, he's bigger than you think 1289 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: he is. Uh, he is faster than you think he is. Okay, 1290 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I know his high school coach, well, he was well 1291 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: coached and trained in high school. But the things that 1292 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: is high school coach said about him as a person 1293 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 1: as a teammate, I think he's displayed at Clemson that 1294 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: he's a great teammate, which is extremely important. Probably the 1295 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: greatest compliment and athlete can get is being a great teammate. 1296 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 1: And so I do think he's humble, hard working. Um, 1297 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 1: you know where he is in his progression as a quarterback. 1298 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know as much about, but he does possess 1299 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 1: the skill level and really again going back to having 1300 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,759 Speaker 1: great respect for his high school coach, and remember everything 1301 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: he said about Trevor makes you realize that he's got 1302 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 1: the intangibles as well. It's great that as you talk 1303 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 1: about that, one more perspective on Trevor being on the 1304 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,639 Speaker 1: opposite sideline. When you face a guy like Trevor Lawrence, 1305 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: what do you feel like facing a guy like That's? 1306 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: What's the challenge when you face someone who's a talented 1307 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: and dynamic as a Trevor alliance. Well, I mean, we 1308 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't really have an answer, to be honest with you. 1309 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: The challenges is that he is big enough and he 1310 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: can be pure in that pocket. He can do what 1311 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 1: the guys I've coached before can do, uh, and then 1312 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: he can create. So like we played against Johnny Manziel 1313 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: in his last game at Texas A and M. It's 1314 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 1: good harm. We all know the mobility was incredible, but 1315 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: you knew he wasn't going to just stay in the 1316 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: pocket and throw it the way Trevor can. Trevor can 1317 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 1: throw out routes on time. He can throw digs on time. Um, 1318 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, and that that's really to me. What you've 1319 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 1: got to see is and he's certainly the body type 1320 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: you know to do that, and I think that's the uniqueness. 1321 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,640 Speaker 1: We didn't have an answer. I mean, if you just 1322 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: try to keep him in the pocket, rush high, he's 1323 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: going to be successful in there. Uh. You can't even 1324 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 1: not rush him and try to jump in bad balls 1325 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 1: because he's a good size of guy. So we struggled. Again. 1326 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 1: The best thing you can do is let meant the 1327 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: number of snaps they get somehow. So I thought the 1328 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: stuff about throwing on time was impressive Buck as much 1329 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,680 Speaker 1: as you know, bigger and faster, more athletic and all 1330 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: that stuff than you maybe think when you watch him 1331 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 1: on tape too when you see him in person. I 1332 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 1: think the fact that he can throw routes on time, 1333 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 1: I think that point by Coach cut Cliffe was a 1334 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: big one. Yeah, I think that definitely was a big one. 1335 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing was Coach cut Cliffe pointing 1336 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: out that he just sensed that Trevor Lawrence was a 1337 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 1: great teammate. Uh So, much of what we talked about 1338 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: with the quarterback position has to do with the physical ability, 1339 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: but it's a leadership position and being able to connect 1340 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 1: all types of players from different parts and in different 1341 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: backgrounds and all those things, and to support them and 1342 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: to get all of those guys kind of moving in 1343 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 1: the right direction. For an opposing coach to be able 1344 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: to see that and identify that in Trevor Lawrence, it 1345 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 1: just kind of tells you how specially trouble Lawrence is. 1346 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,919 Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting when just kind of connecting 1347 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: the dots here and Coach Cutcliffe having coach Peyton Manning. Um, 1348 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,759 Speaker 1: you think about Trevor Lawrence wearing that number is dabbo 1349 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 1: to us because of Peyton Manning at Tennessee. UM. So 1350 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: to me, I just think it's it's interesting when you 1351 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 1: see this, you know kind of path that he's on, 1352 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 1: and there are he does have a little bit of 1353 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,639 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning to his game. Obviously a different athlete, um, 1354 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: but there is there is some similarities there. It's it's 1355 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 1: fascinating when you when you get a chance to connect 1356 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 1: all these dots. Another coach there in the a SEC 1357 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,600 Speaker 1: that we have a great relationship with, one of my 1358 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,680 Speaker 1: coaches from from app State is Scott Sadderfield, who has 1359 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 1: done a really nice job there with that Louisville football program. 1360 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 1: We had a chance to visit with him and ask 1361 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: him his thoughts on Trevor Lawrence. I think you saw 1362 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: him this year, right. I don't think you played Clemson 1363 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: this year, but I know you saw him in nineteen um, 1364 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 1: just just playing playing against UH and coaching against Trevor 1365 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,720 Speaker 1: Lawrence and then also seeing him. I'm sure you saw 1366 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 1: him a ton of crossover tape this year. Just your 1367 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,560 Speaker 1: take on him as a former quarterback yourself, Well, you know, 1368 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 1: he's he's really unbelievable. You know. I try to find 1369 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,640 Speaker 1: a weakness on him, and I don't know what it 1370 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 1: is that would be interesting to hear. You're taking what 1371 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: weakness you may think he has because you know, he's 1372 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: six six, he runs like the six foot UH, he's 1373 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 1: got a tremendous arm. He's um, he's very accurate, you know. 1374 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 1: But but I think the one thing that I love 1375 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 1: more about him than anything else is just his demeanor 1376 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: in his approach to the game. I think that sets 1377 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,600 Speaker 1: him apart from from everybody else. You know, when you 1378 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: have that, I mean he's he's more in the line 1379 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 1: of the Peyton Manning, that Tom Brady, that Drew Brees. 1380 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 1: He's got that about him. So and those guys obviously 1381 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: are Hall of Fame type players. So he has the talent, 1382 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 1: He's got the skill set more so than you know. 1383 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is tall, but he can't run, you know. 1384 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is short, you know, but he's got a 1385 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 1: great arm. You know. So he's got kind of all 1386 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,560 Speaker 1: those intangibles plus the things that you want, the leadership, 1387 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: the humbleness that he has, the you know, the team 1388 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 1: first mentality, and people who want to play for him 1389 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: and give everything to have for him. He's gonna make 1390 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: everybody around him better. Um, you know. So he's just 1391 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: he's a man. He's a unicorn in my opinion. You know, 1392 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: I've kind of nitpick, like when he played those games 1393 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 1: L s U and A just stayed maybe win the 1394 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 1: pressure and the late changing coverage, they tricked him a 1395 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 1: little bit. But he is so good. I think coach 1396 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 1: for you, I think it's always fascinating to get a 1397 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 1: coach's perspective when you're on the other sideline and your 1398 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 1: team is playing against a dude, I meaning a franchise quarterback. 1399 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 1: What is that feeling like when you're facing it? Does 1400 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 1: it change how you approach it from offense? Defense? Like, 1401 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 1: what is it like facing a top not quarterback on 1402 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 1: the other side? Well, yeah, yeah, it's very challenging. Obviously. 1403 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Now we played them two years ago. I think we 1404 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: had two picks, so he had thrown interception in a 1405 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 1: while and we ended up picking them all. Um, he 1406 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: threw into coverage a little bit, you know, trying to 1407 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: force the ball, but um, you know, as sometimes quarterbacks 1408 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 1: do that. But but I think you know, you really 1409 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: just trying to contain him. I mean really, you know, 1410 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,839 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be able to make those plays. 1411 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 1: The thing about Clemson too, is that you had some 1412 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: other players that are really good, you know, some of 1413 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: those wide receivers, they're running back, So I mean you 1414 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: really really just can't try to focus on stopping him. So, um, 1415 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: that's where it makes it really challenging, I think. But 1416 01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 1: but I think you just want to try to keep 1417 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 1: every thing in front. You don't want to give up 1418 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 1: those big plays, um that he's obviously capable of doing. 1419 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Try try to make him get impatient, I think, so, 1420 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, just give him the underneath throws and see 1421 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 1: if you'll take them all day. You know some quarterbacks won't, 1422 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, they want to get hey, I want to 1423 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: throw that ball down the field. I want to get 1424 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit hungry and eager to throw the ball 1425 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:18,719 Speaker 1: down the field. And that's where you get in trouble. 1426 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 1: But if he has that patience, then it's gonna be 1427 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,439 Speaker 1: hard to beat him, you know, because they have so 1428 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 1: many great weapons around him. But um, but yeah, it's 1429 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,680 Speaker 1: it's very difficult. I think when you're facing somebody of 1430 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,719 Speaker 1: that caliber town well, as you know, coach, I prefer 1431 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 1: it for the teams. Just give me the underneath stuff. 1432 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: I didn't really want to have supper. I'll take those 1433 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: layups all day long. Can't go taking a profit and 1434 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 1: somebody wants told me back in that's true again, buck Leadership, humility, Um, 1435 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 1: some of those things that come up that you would 1436 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: think as an opposing coach, you wouldn't really pay attention 1437 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,840 Speaker 1: to more of the skill set stuff, but man, it 1438 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 1: just comes out. Everybody we talked to, Yeah, it comes out. 1439 01:14:55,479 --> 01:15:00,200 Speaker 1: So it's obvious DJ that Trevor Lawrence displays some thing 1440 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 1: on the field that other coaches can kind of sense. 1441 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,919 Speaker 1: Sometimes we talk about the it factor in the swagger, 1442 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 1: but when I get that I get from Trevor Lawrence, 1443 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,880 Speaker 1: there's this self assured is this quiet confidence that you 1444 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 1: can just pick up that he kind of has this 1445 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I got it, don't worry about the team. I got it. 1446 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,160 Speaker 1: And I think opposing coaches recognized that, and I think 1447 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: they appreciate that, no doubt. Um. But we've had a 1448 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:27,719 Speaker 1: chance to visit with gosh, coaches and family members, UH, player, 1449 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 1: guys that have coached against him, UM, trainers, you name it. Buck. 1450 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: We've talked to this about everybody we haven't talked to 1451 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,839 Speaker 1: as a teammate, and we couldn't get through this episode 1452 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 1: without getting a glimpse of Trevor Lawrence as a teammate, 1453 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: and we did that. Fortunately, you were able to catch 1454 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 1: up with arguably the best running back in this year's 1455 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: draft class, his teammate Travis E. T n It's a 1456 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 1: shuttle pass and second time, you know so and and 1457 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 1: and thinking about clips in your program. You guys have 1458 01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 1: been so successful, and so there's naturally a lot of 1459 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 1: tension on the players there. One of the players has 1460 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: been Trevor Larns. What is it like to play with 1461 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Larns? What is he's like in the hull? Trevor, 1462 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: he just couldn't calm and collected. I mean, uh, he 1463 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,960 Speaker 1: really don't botch his opinion. But when you do it, 1464 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 1: everyone stops and listen. And I feel like Trevor, uh, 1465 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 1: the Scott's learning for him, And man, I mean it 1466 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 1: was really a great experience of humble of spiritis for 1467 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: me to be able to play with the number one cornerback, 1468 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 1: number one picked eventually. So for me, I'm just faver 1469 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 1: grateful Huber that I got to play with him. And 1470 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, man, though those times you kind of take 1471 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,760 Speaker 1: for granted, but looking back on it, you really see 1472 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 1: how specially those moment was. You know, you guys were 1473 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 1: very very special. You guys accomplished a lot. And it's 1474 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: funny because both of you guys were very very young players. 1475 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 1: When you're one the national title, Uh did it ever 1476 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: seemed like he was overwhelming for you? Or for Trevor 1477 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 1: like to step in that step on that big stage 1478 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 1: and really lead the team. No, sir, not at all. 1479 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 1: It was never overwhelming that just the colstest that we have. 1480 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 1: Feel like that goes credit to the culture. Uh, just 1481 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 1: just the group of God that we had a hi us. 1482 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,719 Speaker 1: I felt like it was eat for Tramp to step 1483 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,599 Speaker 1: in and leave because everyone saw about their business and uh, 1484 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 1: we we all have one kind of goal, so it 1485 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: was easy for him to step in there and just 1486 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,720 Speaker 1: do what you do. Well, Buck, I think we're we're 1487 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 1: kind of painted the picture here. Now this is a 1488 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,280 Speaker 1: there's a humble confidence to Terrevor Lawrence. Um, there's as 1489 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: good as he is, there's still more for him ahead. 1490 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,640 Speaker 1: And I think Travis etend a good job of kind 1491 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 1: of painting that picture. Yeah, he talked about it not 1492 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 1: being too big for him, and I think we all 1493 01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 1: have been around UH players where we'd like to see 1494 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: him in pressure moments and how they respond and for 1495 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 1: a young player or a freshman player to play on 1496 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 1: a big stage and not to become overwhelmed by the 1497 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 1: task at hand. Um. Once again, it just kind of 1498 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: further confirms UH, A lot of belief from scouts that 1499 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,680 Speaker 1: this guy is QB one. He is the guy. He 1500 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,639 Speaker 1: should be celebrated as one of the best that we've 1501 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 1: seen come through the pipeline. And I think everything that 1502 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 1: we've heard from those that know him well, from his 1503 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 1: his family members, to his coaches to opposing coaches says 1504 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is that dude. And I think if 1505 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 1: you're a team that is looking for a quarterback and 1506 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, you're sitting at the top of the board. 1507 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,320 Speaker 1: When you just listen to the background, all of those 1508 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 1: things make you really want to check off all the 1509 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 1: boxes and it just kind of leads you to believe 1510 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: that this guy is going to have tremendous success when 1511 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,160 Speaker 1: he gets to the next level, that he is going 1512 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 1: to be able to handle all the things that are 1513 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 1: put on him as a franchise quarterback, and that if 1514 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 1: given the time and given the support, that at some 1515 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 1: point he is going to help his team win and 1516 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,679 Speaker 1: win big. All right, Buck, So, now we know Trevor 1517 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence jacks first overall pick together with Urban Meyer, how 1518 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: does this whole thing come together? Man, I think it 1519 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 1: comes to go together nicely. Uh, Here's what I will 1520 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: say when I think about the Jaguars and I think 1521 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 1: about Urban Meyer. Uh, winners win, and Trevor Lawrence is 1522 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 1: a guy that has always one never lost a regular 1523 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 1: season game in high school and in college. His expectation 1524 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 1: is that he's going to play for a team that wins. 1525 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: He understands what it looks like. He understands how we 1526 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 1: should play out on the field. And when you're an 1527 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 1: alter competitive person like Urban Meyer, you want a quarterback 1528 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: that feels the same way. This works because these two 1529 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,639 Speaker 1: guys are in lockstep. I actually made great things from 1530 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I think this is gonna be a very 1531 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 1: competitive team quickly because they've assembled not only Trevor Lawrence 1532 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,759 Speaker 1: they brought him in to be the face of the franchise, 1533 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: but they're bringing a bunch of other winners with him, 1534 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 1: and as he leads them, I think he's gonna leads 1535 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: them to a ton of success. Yeah. I'm excited to 1536 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: see how this offense comes together and what it looks like. 1537 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,719 Speaker 1: You know, are they gonna get him under center? Um? 1538 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be kind of a spread and shred? 1539 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 1: Are they're gonna try and be a you know, dominant 1540 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 1: run team and play off of that now, I have 1541 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,839 Speaker 1: to see there a lot of different voices. They're representing 1542 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 1: some different philosophies in terms of Schottenheimer and bebel Um. 1543 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 1: How they put this offense together with Trevor Lawrence. It's 1544 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna be fun. I'm excited to see it. But I think, uh, 1545 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,760 Speaker 1: we both are in agreement, and hopefully I think you 1546 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 1: will be too. After listening to all the folks who 1547 01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,120 Speaker 1: know Trevor Lawrence very well through this entire episode, this 1548 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 1: kid is not gonna fail. I just don't see it 1549 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 1: and I don't see it happening. He's ready for it. 1550 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 1: It's not too big. He's built for it. So we 1551 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 1: are excited to follow the Jacksonville Jaguars and new their 1552 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 1: new quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. Well, I hope you guys have 1553 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,400 Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode. We appreciate you hanging with us. Again. 1554 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 1: You can check out the other three sixty episodes we have, 1555 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 1: which are on the new Bears quarterback and justin fields. 1556 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 1: You also have one on the new Jets quarterback that 1557 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,639 Speaker 1: is Zack Wilson. So be on the lookout for those, 1558 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,600 Speaker 1: uh those are coming your way, and we appreciate you 1559 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 1: hanging with us. Here today on this very special Trevor 1560 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: Lawrence moved to Sticks three sixty episode