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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing? John

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Speaker 1: Middlecock three and Out podcast? Just watch Matt Stafford, Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay and the Rams get a big win and they

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Speaker 1: look a lot different, and I mean a lot different

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Speaker 1: when you roll out Pooka Nakua and Cooper Cup because

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Speaker 1: it opens up the running game, makes our passing game

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Speaker 1: more explosive than Matt Stafford, you know, look like the

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Speaker 1: star player that he is. He was, he was unreal. Honestly.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback played at Now in general was really really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean there weren't many incompletions. Sam only had had seven,

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Speaker 1: big win for the Rams. Their season is alive. And

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Speaker 1: well the Vikings meanwhile lose two straight. I mean they

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Speaker 1: lose two games in four days. That's tough to two. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Lions are a playoff team and the Rams were

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Speaker 1: star left tackle, that hurts, I mean, because we all

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Speaker 1: know there are certain things in sports that you do

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Speaker 1: and so we'll dive into this game, which which I enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start with Stafford because it really hit

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Speaker 1: and throughout the game, he is just dominating. He's a

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Speaker 1: fun player to watch, but I think for as fun

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Speaker 1: if they can stay healthy, like Cooper, Cup's not getting traded.

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be like, John, what about the face mask

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Speaker 1: Cowboy tour of the facility. Now, I do think it

429
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: represents like the Cowboys just have a lot going on.

430
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: And right now they have people pointing fingers, anonymous sources

431
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: in the building, Jerry going on record shitting on everybody,

432
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: and they play on Sunday Night Football, and I do

433
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: believe and they might just be so undermanned. Now the

434
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: forty nine ers aren't exactly you know, playing with a

435
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: full deck either, But that's the type game that if

436
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: you lose, and especially lose handily, I'd be stunned if

437
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: it looked like last year where they just got blown out.

438
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: But if they lose by double digits and get embarrassed

439
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football, the number one show in America,

440
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I do just think this team could crumble, Like I

441
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: just think they could fall apart. And I was someone

442
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I thought this would be a playoff team.

443
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: Now I didn't think they'd win twelve games again, but

444
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: I thought the culture, the talent they still have, they

445
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: have a good quarterback Zimmer would be good with defense.

446
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know everyone would get injured, but they would

447
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: win nine or ten games and be a wild card

448
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: team and honestly compete for the division because I didn't

449
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: think there was a team in the division that would

450
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: run away with it numbers wise, though the Eagles obviously

451
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: have more talent, didn't expect Washington to be this good.

452
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: But regardless, like, you lose this game coming off of bye,

453
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: especially if you get shoved around a little bit, which

454
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be a problem because they can't stop the run.

455
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: And Kyle Shanahan is kind of a throwback. I mean,

456
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: in a perfect world, he would He's like Jim Harbaugh.

457
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: He would run the ball eighty ninety percent of the

458
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: time if he could on a given game, and when

459
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: he gets the opportunity has no problem doing it. Then

460
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: it feels like this team, and really this organization could

461
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: just fall apart in the short term. I'm not saying

462
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going under or whatever, obviously, I mean

463
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: they make money hand over fists. I mean they make

464
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: more money than any team in the league. But I've

465
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: always I was like, I don't know, Al Davis two

466
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: point zero, it does start to feel like it's becoming

467
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: that a little bit. It's completely different, and it's more

468
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: like a fortune five hundred company Al Davis two point

469
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: zero because of how well the business is run and

470
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: how big the product is. But in terms of the

471
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: football team, in terms of the football stories, it does

472
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: feel like they've jumped the shark and it's getting really,

473
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: really weird. And I've known a few very successful people

474
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: and as they got older, they usually don't change their

475
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: ways and they tend to be stubborn people. And I

476
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: obviously don't know people of the wealth level of Jerry Jones,

477
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: but I think they're all cut from the same cloth

478
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: because you hold back and lean back and refuse to

479
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: change because what you did thirty forty years ago is

480
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: the reason you're sitting here right now. And Jerry ain't

481
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: gonna change, just like Al Davis in his latter years

482
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna change. And when these guys have the amount

483
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: of power they do, it's very unique. Like Jerry's the

484
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: GM as well, same with Al, and they own the team. Literally,

485
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: everyone that walks into the building, from player to coach,

486
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: to intern to marketing guy to the front office assistant

487
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: to the janitor, knows that guy is the top of

488
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: the food chain. And once they start getting weird as

489
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: Jerry is getting, it just feels like it's crumbled. It

490
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: can crumble, and it might be crumbling in front of

491
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: our eyes. But this notion that these tours in the

492
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: building like this is a story that's irrelevant if you're

493
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: five and two, do you know when the story's are relevant?

494
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: The last three years when they had twelve wins, no

495
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: one gave a shit about Billy from Austin and his

496
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: family coming on a tour. You start losing, players start

497
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: pointing the fingers, Things get leaked, and a story like this,

498
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: which many would argue is kind of a non story,

499
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: becomes a story and there is no ban dating or

500
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: plugging these holes that are leaking and stopping this avalanche

501
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: of just kind of negativity around especially and unlike Al Davis,

502
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: Jerry's talking every week, multiple times a week, so it's

503
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: only gonna grow. It's not like if they lose on

504
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: Sunday Night to the Niners, what do you think Jerry's

505
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: talking about on Tuesday, Like, everything's gonna be okay, we'll

506
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: keep our heads high, We'll get this thing to get No,

507
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep doubling down. So I'm one of those

508
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: people that have always like I'm not a Jerry Jones haater.

509
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: I've always admired, honestly a story back from the way

510
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: he bought the Cowboys, how quickly they turned around. I

511
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: know it wasn't because of him, but like I grew

512
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: up like it was the Niners versus the Cowboys, and

513
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: they were as big as any team in my youth,

514
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. They were a powerhouse led by him

515
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: because he's got a big ego and he wanted everyone

516
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: to know about it. And now it feels like in

517
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: his early eighties he hasn't just lost his fastball, but

518
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: he's starting to create these messes, like he's really becoming

519
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: a part of this. And I you know, I don't

520
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: know if it was just that moment last year against

521
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay really rattled them. Really the last three losses,

522
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: three years in a row in the playoffs have been really,

523
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: really hard. You go back to twenty twenty one, they

524
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: host the forty nine Ers, they're six and a half

525
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: point favorite. Niners took it to him the following year

526
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: they end Tom Brady's career. Dak has one of the

527
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: greatest games of his career. Then they go toe to

528
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: toe with the Niners and they lose that game because

529
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: Dak throws a couple interceptions. Their defense was awesome, and

530
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: then last year happened, which kind of feels like icing

531
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: on the cake. Another thing that happened, speaking of the

532
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: NFC East, is John Mara gave some comments at an event,

533
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: and I think he's in a tough spot right because

534
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: I can't imagine he's happy. He has to hear constantly

535
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: about the Saquon thing, and then it literally just happens

536
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: at his home stadium rushes for a buck seventy five.

537
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Then the video goes viral. He's like, it's almost like

538
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: he waved the white flag for the Giants, like, yeah,

539
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm good, let them be, even though I doubt they.

540
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, putting Saquon back in in that situation would

541
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: have been very risky for Nick Sirianni and his job

542
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: status if he were to get injured, you know, in

543
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: a situation where you're killing someone just to rub it

544
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: in their face like you already had. So luckily it

545
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: just didn't happen. But I actually think it's worse just

546
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: with the comments on the sideline of just like, yeah,

547
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm good man. These guys aren't worth it to me.

548
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: And John Morrow essentially said this week that I do

549
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: not anticipate and he changes this offseason, and I think

550
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: he wants I've seen this for years with Mark Davis,

551
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Like Mark Davis would have done anything for Josh McDaniels

552
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: to work out and it not to have gotten as

553
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: bad as it got. Mark Davis would have paid millions

554
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: of dollars for those emails on John Gruden to never

555
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: come out, just so John Gruden could have been as

556
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: head coach, even if they just became like a fringe

557
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: playoff team over the course of a couple of years,

558
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: for like seven, eight, nine years, these some of these

559
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: owners want no part of firing people and going back

560
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: on a search. And I do believe that he's being truthful,

561
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: like he's essentially I don't want to do this. I

562
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: do not want to fire these guys. I do think

563
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: it's pretty hard to shake everything that happened this summer

564
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: on that television show. If I'm a Giants fan, I

565
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: just have a hard time taking Joe Shane seriously. That's

566
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: one of the more jaw dropping television shows I've ever seen.

567
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: When it comes to sports now, it's kind of a

568
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: double edged sword because as a consumer and as a

569
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: lover of football and just loving that content, it might

570
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: be some of the best content I've ever seen. I

571
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: was glued. If you would have told me off season

572
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: New York Giants, how do you think it'll come out?

573
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: I would have said ninety five percent. Chance would be

574
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: awful and boring. Instead, it was elect it was must

575
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: watch television if you liked you know, if you enjoyed

576
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: the NFL, if you enjoy you know, if you play

577
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: fantasy football. It's like, how does gms actually operate? And

578
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: you're like, this can't be true. And in my experience,

579
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: that's not the way it happens. And those aren't the

580
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: conversations and how willy nilly, and it felt like they

581
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: were just freelancing on the fly. But it's hard to

582
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: shake that moment that we saw on TV where he

583
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: said I don't think I could sleep if he goes

584
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, and Joe Shane not only said I

585
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna go with the Eagles. I think

586
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up with the Giants or excuse me,

587
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: the Bears. Clearly he wants to like Brian Dable. He

588
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: wants Brian Dable to work, but what if it's just

589
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: not gonna work? Like, what if they just win one

590
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: more game the rest of the season. Their offense is

591
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: a mnemic and now losing their left tackle, they are

592
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: going to get their quarterback killed and Brian daball I

593
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: think Daniel Jones came out today and said that Brian

594
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Dable told him you're a quarterback moving forward regardless, Like

595
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter whoever you're throwing out. He stinks

596
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: he's not good enough. He throwed Drew Locke in this situation,

597
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: it's not gonna look much better. It's a disaster and

598
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: you're just not gonna be able to win many games

599
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: when this is your situation. So I do believe John Marra,

600
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: Like right now, he's like, God, I just want them

601
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: to show some light. But what if they don't, And

602
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: what if all of a sudden, we're drafting instead of

603
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: sixth next year, we're drafting third. It's hard to feel

604
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: great about rolling this back, but I do understand where

605
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: he's coming from. I don't want to look at the

606
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: guy like I'm also becoming Al Davis in the two thousands.

607
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm just firing people every two or three years. He

608
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: went from three straight coaches they lasted two years. And

609
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: if he were to fire everybody, these two these you

610
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: knows GM and head coach would last three years. So

611
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: in six three, in nine years, he would be on

612
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: his fifth head coach post. Tom Coughlin like, that's a

613
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: lot to handle. So I think this Giants thing is

614
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: worth monitoring and something that just a story that's not

615
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: going to go away. Last but not least because it's

616
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Fugazi Friday, I truly believe we saw one of the

617
00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: greatest f us we've ever seen night for the NBA.

618
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: Happened Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, right first game of the season.

619
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: Load management and guys sitting out is part of the sport.

620
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: These teams like no longer care about the paying customer

621
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: that they no longer care. We have seen that for

622
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: years now. They will sit a guy if they just

623
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: as whatever, just take the game off. Happens all the

624
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: time and honestly throughout the regular season. As a if

625
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna buy a ticket at this point in time,

626
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: that's on you. But Adam Silver, who you gotta give

627
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: him credit somehow locked up a television deal despite their

628
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: ratings going the opposite way at like almost triple the value.

629
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: And one of his big partners who has been one

630
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: of his biggest partners and most loyal partner, who talks

631
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: about his league constantly as people DM me like why

632
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: is their NBA live in August when football's going on

633
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: and basketball's months away? They're in business with him and

634
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: one of the biggest opening night games on national television

635
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: is the Sixers at home hosting the Bucks. Two of

636
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: the best players in the NBA, Jiannis and Joel Embiid,

637
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: guys that have won an MVP. Now, the difference is

638
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: Yiannis is a champion and a guy I would say

639
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: universally respected. If you like sports, you go that guy

640
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: plays his ass off. That guy gives everything he's got.

641
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: Then there's Joel Embiid, who has never come remotely close

642
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: to winning anything. He's never even been to the conference finals.

643
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: James Harden takes a lot of shit Like James Harden,

644
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: while he's underperformed relative to his regular season status, a

645
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: little overrated, I think because the style doesn't translate the playoffs,

646
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: has been to the conference finals, a couple times when

647
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: he was the Alpha, let alone the finals when he

648
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: was on Oklahoma City. Like he's had personal success and

649
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: team success, j Weell Embids has zero team success. Honestly,

650
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: they have kind of been the laughingstock of all the

651
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: good teams in the league over the last six or

652
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: seven years. To load manage game one, I think it's

653
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: easy to blame the Sixers and listen, they deserve it.

654
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: And if I'm Adam Silver, they gave me a middle finger.

655
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: They essentially said, you're too big of a puss. I

656
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: don't think you'll do anything, even though you've implemented new rules. Again,

657
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: this isn't Christmas Week or you know, early December or

658
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: January and you're playing Orlando and no one's paying attention,

659
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: No one cares. This is game one all around the

660
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: league yesterday. I look, guys are playing twenty five thirty

661
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. Because unless you are the Boston Celtics

662
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: who showed up and played their ass off the other night,

663
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: this should be a big deal, even if you plan

664
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: on load managing throughout the season. But Joel Embiid, who

665
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: by all accounts and reports is fully healthy, sat out

666
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: Game one. His team got bounced in the playoffs in

667
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: the first round last season, so he didn't play the

668
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: second round, he didn't play the third round, he didn't

669
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: play obviously in the finals. He barely even played in

670
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: the Olympics. So this is a guy who has not

671
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: played forever. You would think against one of his quote

672
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: unquote equals or peers in Giannis on National TV in

673
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: the history of my life watching sports. Obviously, football is

674
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: not even comparable to the NBA anymore because no one

675
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: load manages, and anyone plays if they can't. But let's

676
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: just use basketball. All the players I grew up on,

677
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm not even more removed Michael Jordan. Just go the

678
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: other guys that won MVPs over that period, the David Robinson's,

679
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: the Charles Barklays, the Kobe Bryants, the Shacks, the teams,

680
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: you name it, the most famous people when I was

681
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: a kid like kind of that group. Beside Michael, can

682
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: you imagine them getting bounced in the first round and

683
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: then them sitting out game one to load it's the

684
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: first at home. I think it's unprecedented territory. I really do.

685
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: Other guys aren't playing, like Kawhi Leonard Well he gets

686
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: knee surgery like every six months. Is hard to tell

687
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: if he's load managing or injured. Of course it is

688
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: because he misses a lot of games, but he clearly

689
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: gets surgery all the time. Paul George, who also didn't

690
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: play for the Sixers, got injured in the preseason, so

691
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: like he legitimately hyper stand to his knee. This guy,

692
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: by all accounts, every NBA reporter like, yeah, he's healthy,

693
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: and now the NBA is investigating. If I was Adam Silver,

694
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: the fu you just showed me after I did everything

695
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: humanly possible to get our league so much money about

696
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: to flow in these next ten years, that these players

697
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: are gonna be making eighty to ninety one hundred million dollars,

698
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: guys like Joel Embi, who currently makes fifty one million dollars.

699
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about it, Fugazi the Sixers. The

700
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: organization is a joke. It really is. And that was

701
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: I thought, in the history of load management, probably the

702
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: lowest moment for the NBA. And if I'm Adam Silver,

703
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 1: like there's no I can't suspend anybody because I want

704
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: this guy to play. I am throwing a historic fine

705
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: at the organization, which hopefully just pisses the owner off

706
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: and makes him get on the guys. And maybe the owner,

707
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: now that he's in the NFL, doesn't even care. It's like, yeah,

708
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: hit me up later in the season. I'm gonna focus

709
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: on my football team. But what a joke. Okay, back

710
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: at it again with my main man, Stucky, and we

711
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: were all over some underdogs last week. But rule and

712
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: no one should ever compare Riola to Mahomes again until

713
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: he does something meaningful. But we've got a lot going on.

714
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: We don't have the greatest slate in the NFL matchup wise,

715
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: but that's why they made gambling. College has some very

716
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: interesting games. We have the World Series starting on Friday night,

717
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: where you can get the Yankees as a dog at

718
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: plus one oh five, which which I'm tempted to do.

719
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: But Stucky, how you doing? Bro?

720
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Going on to there.

721
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Got any thoughts in the World Series?

722
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: I played the Yankees small, nothing big, but I took

723
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 3: them as a dog.

724
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: I wish that number was a little higher, like if

725
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: it was like plus one fifty or something. You know,

726
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: if the Dodgers were a little better, I would feel

727
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: a little more inclined. It's not all lines presenting here

728
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: by DraftKings, you know, plus one oh five. I don't

729
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: know if it's great value for an underdog. It would

730
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: be my initial take as someone who is gonna put

731
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: money in the Yankees as well.

732
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like my thought process is that I

733
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: just don't know if the Dodgers have the pitching. I mean,

734
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: just look at look at Game one. It's Garrett Cole

735
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: versus Priority, who's looked awful. And so I think that,

736
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to have just a bet on

737
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: the sweat the whole series, and I think the Yankees.

738
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: Said Game one.

739
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: So I died through some of the Yankees as an underdog.

740
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: Think how many I saw some of the prices for

741
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: Yankee tickets in New York. I mean they're just astronomical.

742
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Plus there's so many East Coasters that live either in

743
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Southern California, Northern California, Arizona, Vegas. Who I'm with some

744
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: cash that I'm sure there are gonna be a lot

745
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: of Yankee fans there Friday night. Yeah, so that's that

746
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: there's a little variance there. So yeah, I like the

747
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: Yankees as well. Let's where do you want to start?

748
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I guess really quick looking back on last week. You

749
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: know in the NFL, the Lions that that was a

750
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: pretty massive win. But I also think, you know we're

751
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: recording this before Thursday night. I think Minnesota showed out

752
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: pretty well. It's clear that division is freaking good because

753
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: the Packers I thought thoroughly outplayed them, but you muffle punt,

754
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: Jordan throws an awful pick that they returned to the

755
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: eleven as well. You know, to me, they played that

756
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: same game ten times. I think the Packers win comfortably

757
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: the majority of them. Are you in agreement there?

758
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Texans just couldn't protect Stroud, couldn't

759
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: move the ball consistently. They really missed Nico Collins. They

760
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: have inefficient, inefficient play calling on early downs. But yeah,

761
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: green Bay looked good. Tricky spot this this this weekend

762
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: at at Jacksonville. Just like after that game, division game

763
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: on deck going down to Sparti humidity. I did play

764
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 3: some Jags, but that numbers come too far down. Packers

765
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: special teams that are going to be an issue all year,

766
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: but they have that That division is is loaded and

767
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: there's lots of good coach is too. Like that's what

768
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: makes that that division even more intriguing. So yeah, all those.

769
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Divisional all their all their divisional matchup field like playoff games,

770
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: don't they.

771
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you have you have good home field

772
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: advantages too, like good at I mean, it's it's good.

773
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: It's it's nice when that division is good. Yeah, we've

774
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: seen the switch in the Like we talked about this

775
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: before the year with the NFC versus the a f C,

776
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 3: I mean the the a f C. Man, there are

777
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: some bad, bad teams in the a f C. And

778
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: like the Chiefs are undefeated, but they have looked. I

779
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: mean it's not like they're overwhelming teams and they keep

780
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 3: playing teams that get hurt. But I mean their offense

781
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: is pretty limited. But I mean you have teams like

782
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: the Raiders, the Titans, the Browns, the Patriots, like the

783
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: I mean the Dolphins. Their situation is going to get

784
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: better with two of this week. But that the AFC,

785
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: just from top to bottom, I think it might have

786
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 3: been passed by the NFC.

787
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the division winners on DraftKings. If you

788
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: look at the North, obviously the Lions are currently favored.

789
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: You can get the Packers. The Lions are plus one thirty.

790
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: The Vikings are plus one seventy five. You know the

791
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Packers right now are plus three eighty. I do think

792
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: there's some value there. I mean, I think their offense

793
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: is freaking good and defensively endless and obviously, like you said,

794
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: they're missing Ego Collins. I do you know you add

795
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: Sauliz's boy, you add him in the mix. I do

796
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: think they're clearly a little bit better and feel a

797
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: little I have a little more confidence in their defense

798
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: just with half lead than I did with Joe Berry

799
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: because it's kind of similar players, right, It's not like

800
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: it's not like they added Reggie White to the mix.

801
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: But I'm a believer in the Packers. I think they're

802
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, I think this would be I think

803
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: they can win the NFC, Like I don't think with

804
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: Aiden missing. We'll see if they like I mean, obviously

805
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: they trade for like Miles Garrett or something. Then I

806
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: look at the lines exactly like I did before the season.

807
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: But until they get that solidified, like that is a

808
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: problem for them.

809
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the I mean they don't, they don't luck out

810
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: schedule wise. I mean, this would be the time to

811
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: buy them, because you do they you know, they're at

812
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: Jackson they're favored, and then they host Detroit and that's

813
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: one of the few games this year where Detroit has

814
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 3: outdoor goth and who turns into a pumpkin in any

815
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: type of weather.

816
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: Outdoors, so gets it, gets it early, though, you know

817
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: it's not I think last week it looked pretty sunny

818
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: and they kept saying on the broadcast, like, what a

819
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: this is the greatest October day in the history of lambo.

820
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what the could change fast. That'll be

821
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: worth watching. Then they have a bide and they're at Chicago.

822
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: They're home against San Francisco. We'll see how healthy San

823
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: Francisco is. And to get Miami at home like outdoor

824
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: team late November, which helps. So they're at Detroit, at

825
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: Seattle home against New Orleans. Maybe New Orleans is healthier

826
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: than at Minnesota than home against Chicago. So the skeed

827
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: isn't easy. But I think now's the time to buy

828
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: Green Bay if you'd like them for the division. I

829
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: definitely think they're alive. This thing should be an award

830
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: at the end. Yeah.

831
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: I might actually just sprinkle a little that that number

832
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: seems like to me their number should be much closer

833
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: should be at least hand in hand or right there

834
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: with the Vikings, not double the Vikings number like that

835
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: feels a little I agree.

836
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: I would also bet that because I think the Rams

837
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: have a shot to win tonight and that would be

838
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: a loss. The Packers already beat the Rams, so you know,

839
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: the the Vikings losing that game. I mean, I think

840
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: there might be down to like two and a half

841
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: point favorites. But this is a tough spot tonight, or.

842
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: You'll look like a genius when this comes out on Friday,

843
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: if you're right. I think actually a lot of people,

844
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not as much off the Vikings. I

845
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: actually think that was a pretty impressive loss and Darnold

846
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: looked pretty good. And like you said, the coaching staffs

847
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: in the division, but specifically their coaching staff obviously offensively

848
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: that you know they're players, but you know, I smoking

849
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: mirrors feels a little strong, but like they're probably more

850
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: likely to be like a good eleven and sixteen than

851
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: some powerhouse thirteen win team, right, I agree.

852
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm not off the Vikings that this is

853
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: just it's a tricky spot. You know, with healthier los

854
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: angele you know, get cut back and even a short

855
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: week after that effort going out to the West Coast

856
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: Rams trying to save their season. Wouldn't be surprised if

857
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: the Vikings dropped that game, and then the Packers outs

858
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: will come down a bit.

859
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Let's let's just dive into some games this weekend. We's

860
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: start with my man, Jim Harbaugh, who had one of

861
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: his uh just classic meltdowns the other night, which was

862
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: just freaking awesome that some of the you know officiating

863
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: in that game at the end, it just makes me

864
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: want to puke. But they get the Saints this week,

865
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: who are in complete shambles, who are starting Spencer Ratler,

866
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: who was I guess I haven't talked to you since

867
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: they played last right, because Thursday night was atrocious in

868
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: that game. The Saints, honestly what I've been right on

869
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: my preseason prediction on them. Who knows, but they have

870
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: no freaking chance once they literally lose every good player

871
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: on their team. I just think mentor for the for Harbaugh,

872
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: one thing Jim and John do a great job of

873
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: is just fucking hiring and finding these coaches. Obviously, he's

874
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: gone back and forth. He has been awesome, and if

875
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: it wasn't for a freak run of Kyler Murray. Like

876
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: the Chargers defense was excellent in that game. So I

877
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: just don't see how the Saints can even operate. Now,

878
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: seven points for a team that struggles to score touchdowns

879
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: is obviously a little concerning. But clearly we've seen a

880
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: little flip the last couple weeks of some of these

881
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: favorites gain a little more control. This is more of

882
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: an I meant of betting against the Saints than it

883
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: is like a huge believer in the Chargers being a powerhouse. Oh,

884
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: I think when the dust leedtles they end up more

885
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: likely it's like the seventh seed. But but still like

886
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: at this current point, they are just way better in

887
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: the Saints. The coach coaching mismatch here is huge. I

888
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: think the Saints are just I mean, they're not circling

889
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: the drain. They're basically going down it right now. I

890
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: like a minus seven the Chargers.

891
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's seven, I I would it feels big.

892
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of point.

893
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: I forget it's like the Chargers on the team. I'd

894
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: like the back as a big favorite just because of

895
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: their style of play. They're like I think the hardball

896
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: is a great coach, but I you know, he kicked

897
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 3: a field goal on fourth and breath that I thought

898
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: they should have went for it with like ten minutes

899
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: to go. But they're like they their offense is just

900
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: there's the ceiling is pretty low just because of the

901
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: weapons they have. I'm I'm curious just to watch this

902
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: injury record, Like you have a lot of guys on

903
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: the charge, Like what weapons are the Chargers gonna have?

904
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: Like he I think yesterday we're recording this on Thursday,

905
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: Like McConkey, Will Disley, who was like the go to

906
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: guy last week, Darius Davis, Quinton Johnson, all those guys

907
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: didn't practice, Like who are they going to have to

908
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: throw the ball to? And then on the Saint side,

909
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: like who's gonna play? Like they have about ten starters

910
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: that are that were limited in practice yesterday, Like from

911
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: it looks like Latimore is gonna play, which will help

912
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 3: with like Juwan Johnson, Kamara, Taysom hill, A Lave a

913
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: couple of their offensive linemen. So like who are the

914
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: Saints gonna get back? Because if they're if they have

915
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: their shell unit again, then yeah, it's it's hard to

916
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: envision them being competitive in this game, So watch the

917
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 3: injury report game. For me, I couldn't bet the Saints

918
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: as of right now, but generally speaking, Chargers not a

919
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: team I'm running into the window to bet as a

920
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 3: bigger favor.

921
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean similar Vaine. Here the Chiefs, who who

922
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: aren't exactly light in the world on fire with touchdowns,

923
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: do add DeAndre Hopkins, who I think they officially announced

924
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: Thursday morning. On Wednesday, Andy Reid was asked about it,

925
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: like after the trade had already been broken. He's like,

926
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: I know nothing about it. Classic big fella, but I

927
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: would imagine DeAndre Hopkins. They will immediately play him now

928
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: how much I mean he'll get. They'll just tell him

929
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: plays in the huddle. They're playing the Raiders. They stayed

930
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: in Vegas, so they played the forty nine ers. They

931
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: flew to Vegas. They've been out there all week long.

932
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: Last year, To me, typically this number you'd be like,

933
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, this is a weird spot for the Chiefs,

934
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: but Vegas humiliated them on Christmas, and then I think

935
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: it's probably more overblown on like social media, the thing

936
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: that the Raiders did with talking shit about Mahomes. But

937
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: I also think it's an easy one for them. I

938
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: think this is going to be very, very difficult for

939
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: the Raiders to budge past the fifty yard line. Now

940
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: concern anything, He is like, can they score enough points

941
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: to cover this number, which as of this morning on

942
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: draftings was nine and a half. Obviously, Crosby will be

943
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: a problem that their tackles haven't been great, But I

944
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: just I could see this defense absolutely smothering Minshew, who

945
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: just stinks.

946
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: I actually play the Raiders. I played some plus ten.

947
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 3: It's just I mean, like, yeah, I get the social

948
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: media thing last year, but what are the Chiefs gonna do,

949
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 3: like Fry play harder on offense? Like their their offense

950
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: is just so limited. Maybe Hopkins might help a little bit,

951
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: but he's not gonna like provide that explosive option might

952
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: play like ten fifteen snaps. I don't know if he

953
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: even plays on Sunday. The Chiefs they're I mean, they're

954
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: the least explosive offense in NFL. They're really efficient. They're

955
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: like if they're just beating teams with efficiency, their d's

956
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 3: playing well. But I will say, like if you I

957
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: think their defense might be a bit overrated, I love Spags,

958
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: but I mean they also another they lost Steve in

959
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: the offseason. They also another corner in Watson who got

960
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: hurt now and he's out, and every week everyone gets

961
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: hurt who they play against. Like, you go back to

962
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: the Falcon, the Falcons should have beat them if they

963
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: get a PI call converted any those four tenths. Falcons

964
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: lose two of their starting offensive linemen in that game

965
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: in the first half and still almost won the game. Bengals,

966
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 3: playing without t Higgins should have beat the Chiefs earlier

967
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: this season if you know they don't get that PI

968
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 3: call or there's a defensive scoop and score. They played

969
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: the Chargers when Herbert was banged up without his offensive

970
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: lineman and they don't have any weapons. They played the

971
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: Saints who had all kinds of injuries, and they played

972
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers who lose all their receivers during

973
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: the game, and you're basically playing like the forty nine

974
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: ers practice squad. So yeah, the Raiders aren't a great offense.

975
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 3: Maybe you get Meyers back, you can throw it to Bowers,

976
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 3: but just ten in a divisional game after that, forty

977
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: nine Ers win for an offense that's still extremely limited.

978
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: I had to take it. Do I feel great about it? No,

979
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: it's big coaching this match. But Pierce will kick some

980
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: field goals for me when you shouldn't, which might help

981
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 3: get the Raiders of the window, which it did last week.

982
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: Like last week, I guess he was just trying to cover,

983
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 3: not beat the Rams. But I had to take the ten.

984
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you go, you go back. I played the four.

985
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: We're starting to get We're starting to get some numbers

986
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: that are getting pretty big. I mean, that's that's the

987
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: thing that makes me uncomfortable the next game. Same thing.

988
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: It's just like that is a lot of points. Like

989
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: you can be up seventeen if they score right, or

990
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: be up fourteen, and if they score a touchdown the game,

991
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, with four minutes left to go in the game,

992
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: even when you kick their ass, that's where you get screwed.

993
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: I've been gambling long enough to know. I just I

994
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: think there are some shitty, shitty teams in the NFL

995
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: right now, and I think we are closer than typically

996
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: normal to get in some not one, two, three cancoons,

997
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: but just disastrous situations with some of these squads. And

998
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Raiders I'm sure out of Carolina.

999
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: It feels like the bottom of the NFL is worse

1000
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: than usual, Like there's more I think.

1001
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: I think coaching plays a part in that. Like Antonio Pierce,

1002
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: when's the last time a guy, I mean, the guy's

1003
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: been coaching like five years ever gets canalis. I mean

1004
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: I think some of the coaches drawed mail same thing.

1005
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: He's been coaching five years. I mean he's like these

1006
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: guys then they don't call plays or do anything, so

1007
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: it's like, what's even going on? Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

1008
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: Some of its injuries, like the Panthers have no one

1009
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: left on their roster, like from on their defense too,

1010
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: And I mean then now they're back to bryce young

1011
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: they've been just crushed by the injury. But but yeah, you're right.

1012
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: The coaching, it feels like college. The parody. There's more

1013
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 3: parody now than there's been in a while in the NFL,

1014
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: there's less. But just for what it's worth, home dogs

1015
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 3: of ten plus historically in the NFL fifty seven percent

1016
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: against the spread. It's it's very difficult to cover ten

1017
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 3: plus spreads in the NFL. Mahone James as a favorite

1018
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: of more than seven sixteen, twenty one and two against

1019
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: the spread. As a favorite of more than ten, it's

1020
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: a double digit favorite. He's nine fourteen and two against

1021
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: the spread thirty nine percent. The other thing when you're

1022
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: laying a big number with the Chiefs is like they

1023
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: could they could be up you know, say they're up

1024
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: seven late or up ten. They're really good at just

1025
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: running the clock out and they're not explosive, like they're

1026
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: not gonna bring it, but they can just go on

1027
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: a seven minute drive and then they're they're taking knees.

1028
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: But he's really turned in more of these last couple

1029
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: of years, which is not Andy's mo O, but it's

1030
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: just because of the squad, the roster that he has

1031
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: much more like a hardball brother, right or like an

1032
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: old school Mike Tomlin, like Andy at its core wants

1033
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: to throw it all the time. I mean looking at

1034
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: the numbers. I was looking yesterday when I do the

1035
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: podcast for when they traded for DeAndre Hopkins. Like you said,

1036
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: they sneaky or they're really good on third down, so

1037
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: it's like their offense has been efficient, but on first

1038
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: down passes they're like closer to twenty than they are ten.

1039
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: And it shows you like he just knows. I mean

1040
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: that goes back to Pachaco and even now the Kareem

1041
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: Hunt has looked better. I just got to play to

1042
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: the strength of my team. But at the end of

1043
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: the day, like he would ideally love to have three

1044
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: or four sweet wide receivers and throw it all the

1045
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: time and score thirty eight on your ass, Like that's

1046
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: how he wants to play. Like Jim Harbaugh at his

1047
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: core would run at every play if he could. Like

1048
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Andy at his core now, he likes a physical defense.

1049
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: It's not like he has soft teams. But he wants

1050
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: to pass. But it doesn't make as much sense when

1051
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: it's best wide receiver right now is a twenty one

1052
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: year old four to two guy that you know. I

1053
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: think they're still trying to figure out exactly how to

1054
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: use them. Yeah, I mean, I think you saw that

1055
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: last week when Mahomes overthrow a Yeah.

1056
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mahomes is six touchdowns and eight interceptions. Somehow he's

1057
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: the MVP favor But on the ear, like their offense

1058
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: is get off with Checko Brown Roshi writes the huge

1059
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: loss like Kelsey's not in full playoff shape yet, Like

1060
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: the offense is very limited. They just want to like

1061
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 3: that's what makes it tough to lay a big number.

1062
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: Then they just want to like grind it down the field.

1063
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: They convinced me, I'm staying away. I'm staying away from

1064
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: that this this though. Listen, Denver is worse on offense

1065
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: than the Chiefs, but they are minus They're minus nine

1066
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: and a half at home against Andy Dalton, who gets

1067
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: in a car accident. Luckily he's okay, but he hurt

1068
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: his thumb, So maybe sprain your thumb. You can't grab

1069
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: the ball. They go announced on Wednesday they're going with

1070
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. If you truly believe Bryce Young stinks and

1071
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna just be one of the worst players we've

1072
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: seen in recent memory that was drafted that high. Denver's

1073
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: defense is good on the road and mile high. This

1074
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: is a tough spot for him. I mean, they could

1075
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: not function on offense with him those first couple of games.

1076
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: Now maybe he's had a chance to take a deep breath.

1077
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't really know how you get your confidence back

1078
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: just hanging out in the meeting rooms and playing scout

1079
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: team quarterback. But I'm tempted here to take Denver as

1080
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: just a bet less about Sean Payton, because I actually

1081
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: think bo Nicks has been a little shaky for a

1082
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: guy that's twenty four with seven hundred million career starts,

1083
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: like I would expected him to be a little more consistent,

1084
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: been a little concerning. But I I just what I've

1085
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: witnessed out of Bryce Young the first year and a half.

1086
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: It's not like anything else change. It's he's not coming back.

1087
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: Like there are seven more sweet offensive guys. Obviously their

1088
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: defense blows, but I think this is a tough spot

1089
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: to start. If you're him, I.

1090
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: Don't mind this one. If you want to up the three,

1091
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: this would be my preference.

1092
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, would it be the same number if

1093
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Dalton was starting, No, it.

1094
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 3: Would be Dalton is a couple of points better. Seven Yeah,

1095
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: probably seven. I mean, look, yeah, bo Nix has not

1096
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: been great. He's been a a garbage time merchant. So

1097
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: like a lot of his stats have come in complete

1098
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: garbage time. Like you look at that Chargers game, like

1099
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: they were down twenty one to nothing and then he

1100
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: put up a bunch of yards when the Chargers were

1101
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: kind of playing soft.

1102
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that good against Saints, did

1103
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: you know?

1104
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: But so like laying needing bough knicks. But yeah, I

1105
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: mean Marcus Marioto looked like Tom Brady last week. At

1106
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: is this Panthers defense has. I mean, they were bad

1107
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: to start with, and they have so many injuries it's

1108
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: hard anyone can move the ball on them, like the

1109
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: Broncos should be the ball on them. And then you

1110
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: get us have Bryce Young is not shown me anything

1111
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: until proven otherwise that he's nothing but one of the

1112
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: worst starting quarterbacks we've ever seen. Broccos also gets certained

1113
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: back who just makes their defense, takes it to another level.

1114
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: He'll shadow Deontay Johnson. What are the Panthers going to

1115
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: do here? Yeah, this could be like, I don't know,

1116
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 3: twenty four to three or something.

1117
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple other games. This one's interesting, obviously, It's

1118
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: it's been hard to judge Miami. I was a believer

1119
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: coming into the season, assuming Tua played seventeen games, this

1120
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: was a team that was gonna take a step back.

1121
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were gonna be a playoff team,

1122
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: like seven eight wins from where they've been. Obviously, you

1123
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: remove him with the with the Snoop Huntley and Tim Boyle,

1124
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: It's it's a joke, you get to a back, you know.

1125
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill says he wanted to cry when they told him. Obviously,

1126
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: it's a huge boost relative to what they've been playing with, right,

1127
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean the gap between Tua, even though I'm not

1128
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: the biggest to a guy, and those cats is fucking wide.

1129
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1130
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: I still don't think Miami's I still don't think Miami's

1131
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: very good. And it's not like Arizona's great either, but

1132
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: one advantage they have even this time of year. And

1133
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: this is why I think you're interested in Jacksonville too.

1134
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,959
Speaker 1: It's still hot down there and everything. Well, it's ninety

1135
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: degrees where I'm at, So it's not like Arizona. Guys,

1136
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: aren't you ual? I understand it's a little different heat, humidity,

1137
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: but it's not. Is that humid right now in Florida.

1138
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: It's just more hot. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it is superhumid,

1139
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I have a hard time. I

1140
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of like Arizona in this spot plus three and

1141
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: a half. And this coming from someone who doesn't really

1142
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: love Arizona. But the problem with Arizona is, like last

1143
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: week against Chargers, like they have some games where they

1144
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: really show some fight they did against the Niners, they

1145
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: did against the Chargers. You're like in some of their

1146
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, James Connor's a good player, tradement, Bride's a

1147
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: good player. Obviously, Kyler is a mother to play against.

1148
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: But then they have games where they just kind of

1149
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: lay down so that they're a little you know, two

1150
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: face that way, which which it's tough to gamble on.

1151
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: But it's it's more like, I just don't. I don't

1152
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: buy Miami.

1153
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 3: I loved the often tire I played them in three.

1154
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: I still play them in three and a half. I

1155
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: think that they're just super undervalued now getting to it

1156
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: back now there is some uncertainty with he was out

1157
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 3: for an extended time coming back from concussion, so maybe

1158
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: there's a slight dip in production. But how is this

1159
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: I don't I just don't know how this Arizona defense,

1160
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: who lost another guy. They've had so many injuries. Guard

1161
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 3: Deck is now out for the year. He's their best

1162
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 3: good rusher. Yeah he's out. They don't get any pressure

1163
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: bottom three pressure right now. You lose Guard Deck. That's

1164
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: the way that you have to get You have to

1165
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 3: stop this Miami offensive too. At the helm is you

1166
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 3: have to get pressure. Arizona's incapable of getting pressure. Their

1167
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: secondary is terrible. I don't know how they get any stops.

1168
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: And what does this Miami team do with Tua. We've

1169
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 3: seen it for years. They beat this shit out of

1170
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: bad defenses. They turtle up when they play a good

1171
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: defense and get pressure. But so Miami does at home

1172
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: against a bad team and a bad defense. I mean

1173
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 3: two is seventeen and ten against the spread verse teams

1174
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: under five hundred and sixty three percent covered by about

1175
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: five points per game, as a favorite against teams under

1176
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: five hundred seventy percent against the sparat fifteen and seven.

1177
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 3: This is just what they do. The Cardinals defense is awful,

1178
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 3: the only defense in the league allowing in success rate

1179
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: over fifty percent. I just don't have to get it stops.

1180
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: It's not a great spot. You're going across the country

1181
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 3: in a short week and if you look like, yeah,

1182
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 3: they have three wins. They caught the Rams in a

1183
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: great spot after that Lion's overtime game and the ret

1184
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: and said so many injuries had just decimated roster. They're

1185
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,959
Speaker 3: other ones. San Francisco lost its kickers. The only reason

1186
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: they win that game, and there was a fumble and

1187
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: fluky last week they should have lost to the Chargers.

1188
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: There's three huge fumbles in that game. Kyler gets picked

1189
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 3: returned in Arizona territory, the defender gets stripped, Arizona recovers it.

1190
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: Chargers then get the ball in their next session, go

1191
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 3: right down the field, about to score touchdown, fumble it

1192
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: for a touchback in the end zone, Arizona's only touchdown drive.

1193
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 3: They fumble it, somehow recover it. Three game changing fund

1194
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 3: they recovered them all. They let Herbert throw for three

1195
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: to fifty. Who was he throwing to? Will Disley and Fojoco?

1196
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like the Mconukee.

1197
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: Everyone all over seas were urt so like and the

1198
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 3: Heath threw for three to fifty. So there's no reason

1199
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: why this Miami offense can't cook here. And the one

1200
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 3: thing Miami's defense is doing well and their metrics aok

1201
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 3: good like their top ten success rate, and they played

1202
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: some bad quarterbacks like, but they're able to get pressure

1203
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 3: up the middle. That's really how you disrupt Kyler. I

1204
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: think it's a good, get right game for Miami. This

1205
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: game was if this game was earlier this season. Two

1206
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: it never gets hurt. Miami won a few more games,

1207
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 3: Miami would be like a six to seven point favorite here.

1208
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: So I like the Dolphins.

1209
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking me out a lot of these things. Okay,

1210
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: the slate you know on papers is not great, and

1211
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: even the hype games Niners against Dallas. I meet these

1212
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: two teams, you know, for two playoff teams, probably there

1213
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: are probably a pretty rough couple of weeks. Obviously Dallas,

1214
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: you got Jerry talking a bunch of shit. Forty nine

1215
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: Ers have a million injuries. I mean, Deebo goes to hospital,

1216
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 1: I uk has just knee snapped. I listen, I will

1217
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: never ever place put money on the forty nine Ers

1218
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: against Chiefs. Ever again, I've done it twice now in

1219
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: the last I don't know, eight months, and I might

1220
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: as well have just lit the money on fire. Uh,

1221
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: this is a spot like we'll have to see who's healthy.

1222
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, now Kittle's on the injury port. Nick Boast

1223
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: is on the injuryport for elbow. I still think all

1224
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna play. But you know, the Deebo situation,

1225
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: I would imagine, you know, being sick, He's not like

1226
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna practice much this week. So even if he's

1227
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: ready to play, how al rusty is he? Juwan jennings

1228
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: hip is an issue. Now. The Cowboys defense, it, you know,

1229
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: is if safe to say it's probably unlikely that that

1230
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: Mike is gonna play in this game. Yeah, I think

1231
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: it's what it's what it feels like. So their defense

1232
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: is atrocious. But I don't know. I mean, this is

1233
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: a game, this is a stay away from me. I mean,

1234
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: the Niners should win obviously. Whoever loses this game is

1235
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: gonna feel really really bad. If the Niners were to

1236
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: lose this game, like you convinced me like this is

1237
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: just this season's just a disaster and they're gonna end

1238
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: up like eight to nine and just I don't even know,

1239
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: it'd be speechless at the end of it. But you

1240
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: win this game, take a deep breath, and maybe you

1241
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: can get the train back on the tracks. Now they

1242
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: got Tampa coming up. Who's just lost? I mean, I mean,

1243
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: how do you even function if you're Tampa Bay moving forward?

1244
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: That sucks. But this is to me, like most people

1245
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: didn't believe in Dallas anyway, this is a must at

1246
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: home against this Dallas Cowboy team. Must win for the

1247
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Yeah.

1248
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 3: II the fort niners last week too. I mean I

1249
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 3: played again. I played at minus one to close three.

1250
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 3: They lose all their receivers. I mean, like, what do

1251
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 3: you it's like a three or four point drop off

1252
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 3: with that you're throwing to nobody's Now those you know,

1253
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: Coling and what's his name? Their draft pick Pierce zero

1254
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: career catches coming into that game. So we'll never know

1255
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: how that game would have played out if the forty

1256
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: nine ers were healthy. So you know, I I this

1257
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 3: is tough to who's gonna play like if Jennings is out?

1258
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: I don't think Debo is gonna play like fluid in

1259
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: his lungs.

1260
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: Ayuk, I'm not, I'm not. I wouldn't feel great about

1261
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: Jennings playing. I mean he was out obviously Sunday, and

1262
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: then he missed practice Wednesdays. Clearly, this isn't like just

1263
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: some nick and bruise like a hipie. That makes me

1264
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: pretty nervous.

1265
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't even know he's gonna be out last

1266
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 3: week either.

1267
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean.

1268
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: So, I mean, gosh, I bet the forty nine ers.

1269
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: I faded Mahomes the dog. I think I'm gonna get Jennings,

1270
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: Ayuk and Debo in there, and none of them are

1271
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: out there after one quarter. So yeah, I mean I

1272
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 3: can't play the forty nine ers just because of all

1273
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 3: those guys are out and kittles banged up and there's

1274
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 3: still no McCaffrey. I can't lay points with them. The

1275
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 3: way I would look here is potentially the under the

1276
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 3: Cowboys could get some other pieces back on defense. They're

1277
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 3: coming off a buye. They're they're calling out by their

1278
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 3: you know, local media for two weeks after getting I mean,

1279
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 3: their defense was embarrassed.

1280
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: It was like a high school you mean there, you mean,

1281
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: their owner on with their local media calling them out

1282
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: as well.

1283
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 3: Yes, so I would think that their defense plays a

1284
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: bit inspired here. And if the forty hours of all

1285
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 3: these injuries, like it's it's not gonna be exposed all

1286
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 3: this four hours is gonna play slow, probably play conservative.

1287
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 3: And then the other side of the ball, the way

1288
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 3: to attack this forty nine Ers defense, The best way

1289
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 3: to attack them, you know, because of some of the

1290
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: injuries on the defense line, is to run the ball

1291
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: against them. Cowboys can't run the ball. So I think

1292
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 3: this projects is a lower scoring game. Forty nine ers

1293
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 3: being conservative, playing slow, relying on their run game, and

1294
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 3: you can run on on Dallas regardless of who's back there,

1295
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 3: so they can. They're gonna probably have some you know,

1296
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: long methodical drives, and I'm curious to see that. What

1297
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: made it even worse having a bet on the forty

1298
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: nine ers is if if obviously, if I knew that deep,

1299
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: if if the market knew that Debo ayukn and uh Chiefs,

1300
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: I mean, the chief probably would have would have definitely

1301
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: been favored. But in that circumstance, Kyle would have at

1302
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: least had time to game plan right, like you probably

1303
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: have had so many plays and build around Debo ayuk,

1304
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 3: and like you have these guys who have never played,

1305
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 3: so at least he has time now to prepare for

1306
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: some of these losses. But it's still not great, So

1307
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 3: I couldn't lay it with the forty nine ers. This

1308
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: spread probably would have been around seven, you know, six

1309
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: to seven if the forty nine ers were healthy. You know,

1310
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 3: you've seen it come down, which you know, two to

1311
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,959
Speaker 3: three points, which I think is fair for all their injuries.

1312
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 3: So I think the line is close to right, but

1313
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: I would look the under I think this is profile

1314
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: is a lower scoring game.

1315
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's fire over to college. Let's just start.

1316
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Friday night, we have a massive game in Vegas.

1317
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, Boise playing unlv U and lv's good. I

1318
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: mean that they're a close loss away from being right

1319
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: there with Boise. Of like, this is a playoff eliminator

1320
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: almost between these two teams. You know, Boise minus three

1321
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: and a half they're running back is freaking incredible. They

1322
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: win this game, it's like that they are going to

1323
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: have a very very good chance to be one of

1324
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: those playoff teams. H what's your take here. I mean,

1325
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm tempted to take un l V plus the points.

1326
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: I've watched him a bunch of year. I think un

1327
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: lv is pretty good and Boise's X factor is just

1328
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a top two or three player

1329
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: in the country. I mean, that's how that's how good

1330
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: this guy's been. So it's it's hard sometimes in college

1331
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: more than the NFL. It's like sometimes you's got to

1332
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: ride that guy, you know, until he proves you, proves

1333
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: you wrong. When he's just got you know, one of

1334
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: those magical and we've seen it a lot of times

1335
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: in our lifetime and that's so that's my hesitation here.

1336
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: It's like all of a sudden, gent goes for two hundred.

1337
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: But the one thing is UNLV's defense has been really

1338
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: good this season. Obviously Berry Odam's a defensive guy. This

1339
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: is a great college football game.

1340
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I like Boise earlier in the week. Now

1341
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 3: that the spread is over three, I could only take

1342
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 3: the UNLV. I mean I think that the spread, the

1343
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: right spread is probably three. Like this is one of

1344
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 3: those games where if it's under three, you look at Boise,

1345
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 3: if it's overfield goal, you might look at UNLV. I

1346
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 3: don't have a strong take on it. I will say

1347
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 3: this spot and well, by the way, if anyone cares

1348
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: the other two NFL side, I like where the Browns

1349
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: and Bengals this week. But the spot for Boise is

1350
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: pretty good in that they had to buy last week,

1351
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 3: so they had two weeks to prepare for their biggest

1352
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 3: game of the season the Mountain West for college twelve plus,

1353
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: So you can see some wrinkles. Whereas UNLV, you know

1354
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 3: you had they played Syracuse D's on the field for

1355
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: ninety plays, go to overtime in that game, then they

1356
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: go too altitude in Utah State, their d's on the

1357
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 3: field for ninety plays, starters playing almost all the way

1358
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 3: to the end. Then they go to Corvallis play Oregon State.

1359
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 3: That game comes down to the last play of the game,

1360
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 3: so their d might just be extremely faticuted, which is

1361
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 3: not ideal for Gente, who is on pace to run

1362
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 3: for over fifteen hundred yards after first contact, which would

1363
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 3: be an NCAA record by a large margin. So fifteen

1364
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 3: hund yards after first contact, that's crazy, insane, So like,

1365
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 3: are you going to see more mistackles and I mean

1366
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 3: and more explosive runs. The Boise defense isn't great on

1367
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: the back end. So you know, Ricky White, who's a

1368
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 3: potential future NFL receiver, one of the best the group

1369
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 3: of five level Michigan State transfer. He could have a

1370
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 3: big day. But the Boise State defense, the one thing

1371
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 3: that they do well is get after the quarterback. They

1372
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 3: lead the nation in sacks. Hodgemily Williams has been much

1373
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: worse under pressure, and the difference in this game might

1374
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 3: just be that Boise is able to create a few

1375
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 3: more negative plays with their pressure and Boise you know

1376
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 3: and force you and I'll be into like known third,

1377
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 3: known passing situations on third and long, and make their

1378
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 3: third downs much supperware as you have Gent and Boys

1379
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: is going to be in much more manageable third downs.

1380
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 3: But it should just be a fun game. There should

1381
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 3: be a ton of scoring back and forth. It's a

1382
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: good live betting game, like a team that goes up

1383
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 3: first look at the other team. I think both offenses

1384
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 3: could have success, but cut them out. I think Boise

1385
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 3: wins because Gent's that good. It's a good spot for Boise,

1386
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 3: and I think Boise gets enough pressure and creates enough

1387
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 3: havoc in negative plays to put you and V behind

1388
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: the sticks on enough plays on enough drives where they're

1389
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 3: eventually kno gonna end him points, whereas Boise with Gent

1390
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 3: won't have as much issues with that.

1391
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: I read this profile piece on Gent in the Athletic

1392
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and Boise fired their coach

1393
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: kind of toward the middle end of the season last year,

1394
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: right like it wasn't at the end of the season,

1395
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: so he entered the transfer portal for a split second,

1396
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 1: and then they ended up just keeping. I think Daniel

1397
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: Danielson is that the head coach's name as the guy

1398
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: and they were close, but he was being offered. I mean,

1399
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: it's it's not hard to figure out, like what teams

1400
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: have seven figures to offer running backs, but he was.

1401
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: They were throwing offers left and right, and Boise because

1402
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: of his relationship with this guy, and maybe that's a

1403
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: big reason that helped him keep the job. You know,

1404
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: they kept him and they could really only pay him

1405
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: guarantee him three hundred grand. It made me reading this

1406
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: articles like this is he's like a comes from an

1407
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: army background, his dad was in the military. Really really

1408
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: impressive guy. I mean, because he easily could have gone

1409
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Texas, Ole, miss you name it right, Tennessee.

1410
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: Like it's they're only a handful of teams that could

1411
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: just offer running backs from Boise State's seven figures. So

1412
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm reading that article, I like him even more.

1413
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 3: But the big the boys boys, that's the book. Boise

1414
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 3: last year started off two and three, well three and

1415
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 3: five of four and six maybe, And this is a

1416
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 3: team that's hat a winning record for like, I don't know,

1417
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: twenty five straight years, and then they fired their coach.

1418
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: They I think it was after they lost this horrible

1419
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 3: game to Colorado State that they never should have lost

1420
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: a crazy game on like a hail Mary. They were

1421
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: up thirty to ten with four minutes to go and lost,

1422
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: and they they were able to rally and they won.

1423
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 3: They won three straight to n the year and then

1424
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 3: beat UNLV in the Mountain West champions. They put up

1425
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: forty four. They want to know they won the game

1426
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: forty four to twenty. JENTI ren for one to fifty three.

1427
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: So and they're only lost this year. Is the a

1428
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 1: tight game to.

1429
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: Oregon argue we should have won. Oregon had two kick

1430
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 3: return touchdowns in that game, So yeah, I did. But

1431
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: the play the reason they rallied, and it was I

1432
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 3: thought boiss on after that Colorado State loss, I thought

1433
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 3: they were on like quit Watch. But I know some

1434
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,440
Speaker 3: people close to the Boisse program. The players loved Danielson.

1435
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:47,919
Speaker 3: They rallied for him, and yeah, they that was obviously

1436
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: a huge driver and keeping Jenks. I was shocked, shocked

1437
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 3: that they were able to keep him. I thought he's

1438
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 3: been the best back in the country for years and

1439
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 3: I was like, boys, he's not gonna be able to

1440
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: compete financially with somebod these other programs.

1441
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he loved the coach like they were.

1442
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: They become tight and they were like in the article

1443
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: said they were going to church together. Do you know

1444
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator is a Boise.

1445
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: Derk cutter, right?

1446
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? How about obviously he for people that don't know

1447
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: legend well before, like Dan Hawkins and Chris Peterson, he

1448
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: was one of the original guys that got the program

1449
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: humming from like D one double A too, because they

1450
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: were originally like a junior college way back in the day,

1451
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: I think, and then they bumped up and once they

1452
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: got to Division one, that's kind of put that guy

1453
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: on the map. And then you know he's shit. I

1454
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: mean he was an NFL head coach for a minute,

1455
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: was he? Yes, the Bucks? Jamis the Bucks? Yeah?

1456
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he they hired him as like an

1457
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 3: offensive analyst in twenty twenty two and then he said

1458
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:51,919
Speaker 3: he was retiring.

1459
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: They's sixty five.

1460
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the I think he was the interim

1461
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: heead coach too in twenty twenty two for a bit,

1462
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: and then he they got him to come out of

1463
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 3: retirement for this year to be the offensive coordat on

1464
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 3: quarterbacks coach. A legend in the Boise area for his

1465
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 3: time there and now building this program up. I think

1466
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 3: he was their late nineties, So yeah, I mean credit

1467
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: to genty. The only thing I just hope, like obviously

1468
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 3: he still got paid, but he didn't get as much

1469
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: as he could. I just hope he doesn't get hurt. Yeah,

1470
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 3: and because he's going to be dynamic in the NFL,

1471
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 3: because he also can do a ton out of the

1472
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: backfield catching the ball as well.

1473
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: The upset special this week that a lot of people

1474
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 1: are circling, you can get Navy right now at MetLife

1475
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: Stadium against the Notre Dame Fighting Irish at uh on

1476
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: DraftKings this morning. It was plus four to ten, which

1477
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: means it's a little bit over four to one. And

1478
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: this is a team that obviously the Army and Navy,

1479
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: isn't fair to say are two of the bigger stories. No,

1480
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: unlike top five teams in the country this year both

1481
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: undefeated and I just I haven't watched either of these

1482
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: teams play beside hearing a bunch of people that you know,

1483
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: diehard college football people talk about it. But their schedule

1484
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: has been pretty shitty, but they score a lot of points,

1485
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 1: and that plus four to ten feels a little tasty

1486
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: for a team that I think. I mean, it's been

1487
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: one of the more overrated teams in recent memory. And

1488
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: like we had talked about before, we jumped on that,

1489
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: this is a team now with Margus Freeman who has

1490
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: just lost some pretty big upsets, and it's fair to

1491
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: say this team is better than some of those teams

1492
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: that he's lost to. In Marshall, remember was it two

1493
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: years ago? He should have lost a cow. I think

1494
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: they had a field goal blocked or something at Notre Dame.

1495
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 3: I forget the exact sperience, but Marshall, Yeah, Northern Illinois

1496
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: earlier this year. Yeah, no, Army Navy too.

1497
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: The difference I would say in those games, I don't

1498
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: think anyone's picking an IU or Marshall. You know, it

1499
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: feels like a lot of people are on Navy. Like

1500
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: the games he has lost, everyone thought he was gonna

1501
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: kick ass. This does feel like a lot of people

1502
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: are like kind of thinking that's the spot, which does

1503
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: make me a little nervous.

1504
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean it probably probably means it.

1505
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 3: I mean, Navy has their attention. They're ranked right, Yeah,

1506
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: undefeated's I don't mind sprinkling on the money line on

1507
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 3: Navy and Armies. The Army is gonna play Notre Dame

1508
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 3: in November as well. They could be undefeated. I mean

1509
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 3: they play air Force, was horrendous at North Texas. Be

1510
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 3: tough because North Texas is a really good offense. But

1511
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 3: they win those two games. Cause they're in a bye

1512
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: this week, they'll be undefeated playing Notre Dame in November.

1513
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 3: Army really good quarterback in Bryson Dally who's there. They

1514
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 3: run more of your traditional triple option, but Bryson Daley

1515
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 3: has been really efficient throwing the ball and like play

1516
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 3: action deep shots, but name he has. They hired a

1517
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 3: new offense coordinator, Drew Chronic from Mercer, and he is

1518
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: a kind of as his dad was originally a student

1519
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 3: of the Delaware wing Tea, which was University Delaware n

1520
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: forever was actually originated in the state of Maine way

1521
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 3: back in the day. And he it's it was a model.

1522
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 3: He ran a modified wing tea Delaware wing Tea at Mercer,

1523
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 3: a lot of motion misdirection and uh just kind of

1524
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: like a modern version of the Delaware wing Tea. Navy

1525
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: hired him as their offense coordinator. He's kind of merged

1526
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 3: at it's like a spread triple option modified modern Delaware

1527
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 3: wing tea.

1528
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: A quarterback throw.

1529
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. The quarter their quarterbacks playing really well. They're they're

1530
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 3: just scheming guys wide open all over the place and

1531
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 3: defenses just have no idea where to look. And you know,

1532
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: so you'll still see there that you're normal triple option

1533
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 3: at times, but it's a much more entertaining offense with

1534
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: a lot more play action, motion misdirection, a lot more throwing.

1535
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a lot of people watching this game.

1536
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: It's ABC nine am West Coast kickoff, like it's it's

1537
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: probably the biggest morning game by a mile. I mean,

1538
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of there's gonna be a

1539
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs on this bad boy. Yeah.

1540
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: I mean the Navy's quarterback, Blake quarterback I think leads

1541
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 3: the country in QBR. He's forty six of seventy two,

1542
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 3: including sixty four percent best for nine hundred yards, ten touchdowns,

1543
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 3: one interception.

1544
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,799
Speaker 1: The Navy record, it's like a shadoor game. Yeah.

1545
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 3: The Navy record though for touchdowns in a season is

1546
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: I think Malcolm Pari have like thirteen. So that's gonna

1547
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 3: be quarterback's gonna beat that now. I don't mind the money.

1548
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 3: That's because it's hard to gauge, which makes this game

1549
01:24:56,280 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 3: difficult for me to handicap is it's hard to gauge,

1550
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 3: like navies usually always intriguing as a double digit under

1551
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 3: do all the service academies are because they shortened the

1552
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 3: game down. They play slow. It's limited possessions. But this isn't,

1553
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 3: you know, your typical triple option offense, because they're gonna

1554
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 3: throw a bit more so it's not as slow. They

1555
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 3: do it more potential. But they really haven't played anybody,

1556
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 3: so it's hard to get. And they've been really lucky

1557
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 3: with turnovers in I mean last week against Charlotte they

1558
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 3: put up fifty one. They had thirty eight points before

1559
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: and they only ran three plays in their own territory.

1560
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 3: Like Charlotte turned it over in the first five possessions

1561
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 3: of the game. So like they've been really lucky. And

1562
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 3: they played nope, I mean they played Charlotte. Air Force

1563
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 3: is way down, UAB is a joke, Temple is bad,

1564
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 3: and Buck Noll. The one game they did play of

1565
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 3: a serious team is Memphis, and they won that game

1566
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 3: at home fifty six to forty four, but Memphis put

1567
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 3: up seven hundred yards, so the Navy defense is definitely vulnerable.

1568
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 3: They lost in Notre Dame forty two to three over

1569
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 3: in Ireland.

1570
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: How many yards were I mean in that game had

1571
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: to be like fifteen hundred.

1572
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: Navy I think had six hundred. Yeah, Memphis had six sixty,

1573
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: maybe had five seventy. Jesus wild game. So yeah, Navy

1574
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: on fifty six forty four under point scored. So it's

1575
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 3: hard to gauge just how how bad is their d

1576
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 3: and their offense, Like Memphis d is not great. Notre

1577
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 3: Dames defense is really good and they've played a top

1578
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 3: twenty schedule, like they've played good offenses, and their defense

1579
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 3: is legit. They have NFL guys, they have a really

1580
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 3: good defensive coordinator. So there's a chance that just Notre

1581
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: Dame with their talent, because Navy's defense has been questionable

1582
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 3: and Notre Dame's offense is getting a little bit better

1583
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Riley Leonard's getting a little better, more used to the system,

1584
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 3: that they're just going to be able to run wild

1585
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: and then navyes enough to stack the box. It's gonna

1586
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: set up some deep shots and not means the receivers

1587
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 3: aren't like great like you know, some of the elite

1588
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 3: teams in the country, but they're gonna have an advantage

1589
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 3: over Navy's corners. So there's a concern that there's a

1590
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: blowout risk here, but it's there's a lot of uncertainty.

1591
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: So I don't mind when you have a ton of

1592
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: uncertainty with a double digit dog, I don't I don't

1593
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 3: mind sprinkling on Navy, put on a you know, wrap

1594
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 3: yourself in an American flag. I'm assuming that this game

1595
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 3: has a met life. By the way, I'm assuming that

1596
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 3: they're gonna have a flyover before the game and have

1597
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 3: a little sprinkle on Navy money line. I don't mind.

1598
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: It should be a fun game.

1599
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 1: I think you're getting flyovers, you're getting parachuters in, you're

1600
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting at all and so yeah, you may.

1601
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 3: People that people have met like something that cheer about

1602
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 3: this year.

1603
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: Good point. Uh you had a bold prediction. I think

1604
01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: before the season kicked off, the Panthers would go that's uh, well, yeah,

1605
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: we'll pretend that didn't happen. You said that, Techa and

1606
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: m if they beat Notre Dame will be a playoff team.

1607
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 1: And I think if you just pulled the casual like

1608
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: football fan, you say, who's in first place right now?

1609
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: In the SEC? I think, non, like SEC guy, right,

1610
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: just football guys living where I live, living where you live?

1611
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: Maybe I guess you kind of live Kentucky. I know

1612
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: you guys are in the SEC. Doesn't quite feel like

1613
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: SEC country. Is that fair to say.

1614
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 3: People you know people here would have the basketball standings?

1615
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I think everyone will say Georgia. Well, it

1616
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: turns out Georgia is not in first place. It's Texa,

1617
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: A and M and LSU because neither of them have

1618
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: lost a conference game and they play each other this week.

1619
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: And looking at your A and M thoughts, if they

1620
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: win this week, they still got Texas, But could they

1621
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: lose that game? If they did it in kind of

1622
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 1: impressive fashion, they probably are a playoff team. And in LSU,

1623
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: if they were to win this game, like, could they

1624
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: then lose to Alabama and still be a playoff team?

1625
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 3: Yep?

1626
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: So it's like this is a whoever wins this game

1627
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: has a direct freaking path to the playoffs. Honestly, if

1628
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: A and M wins this, I think, like, are we

1629
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 1: talking about a team that could win the SEC.

1630
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, I mean I bet that. I bet

1631
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 3: that was my I bet them and Clemson to make

1632
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: the College well before the season because I was.

1633
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: Like, what are you feeling right now?

1634
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean by the logic was I was like,

1635
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: maybe Clemson could beat Georgia. They got they lost by

1636
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 3: fifty and then I was like, I think tax Cynam

1637
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 3: is going to be an Entre Dame. Well none of

1638
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 3: those happened.

1639
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: But is Clemson in if they run the table and

1640
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: then lose to Miami in the championship game?

1641
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, if they go eleven and one, I mean

1642
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 3: they're there. One loss would be to Georgia, Yeah, and

1643
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 3: then their next loss will be to Miami in the AC

1644
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 3: championship game. Yeah. I think if either LSU or TEXTA

1645
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 3: A and m go ten and two, they're in. So

1646
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 3: winning this game gives you a pass. Now, Texas A

1647
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 3: and M getting Texas in the last game of the season.

1648
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 3: Obviously that game's at home and Texas if Texas runs

1649
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 3: the TA from here on al and Texas has like

1650
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 3: Texas at ten and two is in Texas vandied in

1651
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 3: Florida than Arkansas and Kentucky. So they could be ten

1652
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 3: and one and like they'd be in so Texas A

1653
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 3: and M. Even if they drop a game, they might

1654
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: get like Texas being like, well, we'll say they could

1655
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 3: be where they playing for the SEC. But there is

1656
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 3: a chance like Texas is not incentivized as much as

1657
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 3: they might be in other years.

1658
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: Because winning the winning the conference championship gives you a buye, right,

1659
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: so it is a big deal.

1660
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see like where they are, where they

1661
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 3: are if they can get to the SEC championship game,

1662
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 3: or where they stand. But it's just worth mentioning like

1663
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: you could have some of that with a new expanded

1664
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 3: cultural playoff. And I think you're gonna see more more

1665
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 3: upsets because that just like the sense of urgency for

1666
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 3: some of these teams. It's just it's little things that's

1667
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: like preparation during the week, right, like knowing in the

1668
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 3: back of your head that you can drop a game,

1669
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 3: whereas in the old college bolts, one game you lose,

1670
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 3: you're done, You're done. I think like you're gonna see

1671
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 3: more upsets like Vandy beating Alabama, but you're gonna see

1672
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: more of that in the new college football landscape. But yeah,

1673
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say TEXANAM. But they win this game,

1674
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 3: I can tell you next week. I'll be telling you

1675
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 3: about a bet I'll have on South Carolina next week

1676
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 3: at home against Texas A and M. That's a tricky game,

1677
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 3: especially if they beat LSU and they're flying high. Probably

1678
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 3: get some value in South Carolina.

1679
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: These you guys know each other too, right, I mean

1680
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: Elko worked for Brian Kelly at Notre Dame.

1681
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another interesting angle. It's a tough game for

1682
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 3: me to handy. Come in LSU. They've looked better. Their

1683
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 3: defense is playing better. They hire the highest paid defensive

1684
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 3: coordinator in the country and the off season, Blake Baker.

1685
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 3: He's gotten that unit. They're playing much better. They're young

1686
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 3: guys than the defensive line with weeks at linebackers playing

1687
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 3: like an All American. And their offense, I mean, nus

1688
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 3: Meyer is a really good player. It's a really good

1689
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 3: quarterback as great command of the offense. One of the

1690
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 3: great matchups to watch this game. TEXANAM is eight defensive line.

1691
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 3: LSU is a great ass protecting offensive line. With the

1692
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 3: number of NFL guys, number of NFL guys going up

1693
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 3: against each other, who can win that battle. But Nasmyer

1694
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 3: has been amazing and avoiding sacks and that's I think

1695
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 3: a key to this game. But LSU, like, yes, they've

1696
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 3: looked a lot better. They should have lost Ole Miss

1697
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: I'd a bet on that game got lucky. They should

1698
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 3: have lost that South Carolina or bailed out by the

1699
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 3: wrest Like this is a team that you know, and

1700
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 3: they lost to USC. I know it was Week one,

1701
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 3: but this is a team Easily you could argue that

1702
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 3: should have three losses in Texas, A and M. You know,

1703
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 3: they could have lost to Arkansas. They would only beat

1704
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 3: Bowling Green at home by six. So they've been kind

1705
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 3: of chuckling high.

1706
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: Have they had the season that USC has not had.

1707
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: They've been in these close games, it's gone their way.

1708
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: USC has been in all these close games where they've

1709
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: been winning late and they fucked up. You know, it's

1710
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 1: the margin for ara. I think USC on the whole

1711
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: is worse than LSU, but I think it's kind of

1712
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: similar to that, Like USC easily could be like you know,

1713
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: five and two or something like, they're not they're not

1714
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: getting their ass kick here in.

1715
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 3: These no I mean they've plonned fourteen point leads. In

1716
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 3: back to back weeks, including one to ben State, and

1717
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 3: then last week they get up field goal block that

1718
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 3: would have clinched the game. But yeah, tex A MS

1719
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 3: is hard for me to figure out. Like they've also

1720
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 3: had to two different quarterbacks, right Wegman was hurt. They

1721
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 3: went to Marcel Reed, it was more of a running quarterback.

1722
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 3: They went back to Wegman, who has a lot of talent,

1723
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 3: but he's he's webbing out and he saw him in

1724
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 3: the Notre Dame game unplayable. I mean, one of the

1725
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 3: worst quarterback performances of the season. I know that the

1726
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 3: Notre Daddas is good, but he was he looked like

1727
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 3: he was seeing ghosts out there. Then against Missouri, I mean,

1728
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 3: they go back to him and he looks flawless, looks

1729
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 3: like a first round draft pick. You went eighteen to

1730
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 3: twenty two for two eighty against Missouri. He was not

1731
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 3: an elital eite. That's been a good se defense. And

1732
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 3: then last week aas Missippi State looked a little sloppy.

1733
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 3: So which version of Connor Wegman do you get? I mean,

1734
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 3: last last week against Mississippi State, it's not an elite defense.

1735
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 3: He went fifteen to twenty five for two hundred through

1736
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 3: two picks. So I don't know which.

1737
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: Version do you think. I do think it's tough to

1738
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: play on the road in the SEC, even against these

1739
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: shitty teams. Like it's just you know, like the Missouri

1740
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: game right there playing in the college station. I was

1741
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: watching that and they killed them. You go on the road.

1742
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I again, I'm not trying to I remember watching in

1743
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: that Week one game against Notre Dame like this is

1744
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: the worst player I've ever seen. My point is that

1745
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: I think sometimes with college kids, and I'm as guilty

1746
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: as anyone with this, like oh you're shitty. It's like

1747
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: it is difficult to play on the road in these

1748
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: environments for sure.

1749
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 3: And I guess those it was a tough spot too.

1750
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 3: They were coming off a Missouri and they knew that

1751
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 3: LSU on deck. Uh you know. But I think a

1752
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 3: lot of this comes down to I mean, yeah, it's

1753
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 3: gonna be at night at Caygfield is as tough of

1754
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 3: a place as you're gonna play in LSU. It's like

1755
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 3: they got that Old Miss then they had well they

1756
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 3: had the what did they give? Yeah, they had the

1757
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 3: Old Miss game. Then they went to Arkansas and now

1758
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 3: you're going to Texas A and M, Like what do

1759
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 3: they have left from the tank A and M? At

1760
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 3: least you know it hasn't played as big of wars

1761
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 3: like Battles of late. The key to the game though,

1762
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 3: is like Ken because LSU's offense doesn't have a ton

1763
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 3: of explosiveness. They have Karen Lacys, a pretty good receiver,

1764
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 3: but they're not They're just it's like Nussmeyer efficiently moving

1765
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 3: the ball down the field through the air. They have

1766
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 3: this freshman who's given him a bit of a punch

1767
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 3: in the running game. But Elko's defenses, you're gonna play

1768
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of two high shelves, don't

1769
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 3: give up a ton of explosive plays, and they are

1770
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 3: aggressive upfront, and they have a really good defense line.

1771
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 3: The key to the game is can they get to

1772
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 3: nuss Meyer's been elite at avoiding sacks. Because if you

1773
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 3: can put LSU behind the sticks, make them drive the

1774
01:35:55,880 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 3: field and they're on third and longs, then you're gonna

1775
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 3: have a successful day. But if not, Smyer is avoiding

1776
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 3: those negative plays, and some of those negative players could

1777
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 3: be fall starts too. This offensive line, I think it's

1778
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 3: six or seven of them at Arkansas and this will

1779
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 3: be a much tougher environment. So yeah, I think it.

1780
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 3: If I had to take it at two and a half,

1781
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 3: it was a three and a half earlier this week,

1782
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 3: I probably would take LSU at two and a half.

1783
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 3: It's one of those games I think should be three.

1784
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 3: So I'll be watching rooting for Texas A and M,

1785
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 3: but no strong fuel. I just don't know what which

1786
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 3: two keys the game, which version of Wegmaniga and how

1787
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 3: much pressure and havoc can the Texas A and M

1788
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 3: defense create.

1789
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: I think we got to enjoy some of these big

1790
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: games on Saturday, because Sunday could be uh, there could

1791
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: be some moments where it's like this, this is a

1792
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: rough watch.

1793
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the games Bengals, Eagles could be good,

1794
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 3: Packers Jack maybe could be entertaining Bill Seahawks. I'm looking

1795
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 3: forward to watch.

1796
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a good one. I mean even

1797
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Monday nights Giants, Steelers.

1798
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cowboys Niners. Now with all the injuries, doesn't have

1799
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 3: as much intrigue. But yeah, it's uh, it's it's not pretty.

1800
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 1: Okay, sucky, let's uh, let's keep rolling. We hammered a

1801
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: bunch of dogs last week in the in college and

1802
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: did pretty well beside Nebraska, So screw you, Matt Rule.

1803
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 3: I did playing last week against Indiana, so hopefully Signetty

1804
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 3: doesn't burn me again. But I think there's there's like

1805
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 3: a big drop off between Rourke, who is playing as

1806
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 3: well as any quarterback in the country, to this this backup.

1807
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: So, so dude on the Warriors brother right, Ty Davis. Uh,

1808
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: what's the guy's last name? Ty Davis?

1809
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 3: And Jackson or.

1810
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Jackson Davis is the dude on the Warriors the center.

1811
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: I think it's his brother.

1812
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 3: I didn't even know that.

1813
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So losing Rourke. But one thing is watching Indiana's

1814
01:37:58,720 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: like their defense isn't bad.

1815
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 3: No, their defense is pretty good. Yeah, Sathan Jackson is

1816
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 3: his older brothers Trace Jackson Davis. I never put that together.

1817
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean they must must be not have different I.

1818
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: Didn't know that either. I just saw an interview or

1819
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: saw something on social media that he was talking about

1820
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: it so interesting.

1821
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 3: I never put you into because he doesn't go by

1822
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 3: Jackson Davis.

1823
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1824
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana's defense is just I mean, Nebraska just was

1825
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was.

1826
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: They would have lost to anyone the way they showed up.

1827
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did play Washington. Washington's been good this year.

1828
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 3: They've been a bit unlucky, but coming off of a bye.

1829
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 1: Running back's good.

1830
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:42,839
Speaker 3: Running backs really good. This is a really balanced offense.

1831
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 3: Will Rogers is good. They have good receivers. I think

1832
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 3: Washington is a bit better than Nebraska. And you're getting

1833
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 3: seven and Roork's not in there. I mean, Ork has

1834
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 3: been flawless this year and this Jackson did I know?

1835
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 3: They put up twenty eight in the second half last

1836
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,959
Speaker 3: week with him? They had four short fields off Nebraska

1837
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 3: either turnovers or turnover on downs. Last Yeam was very

1838
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 3: mistake prone. It's just not the same caliber players. Work

1839
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 3: is right now, Who's like NFL ready? So I took

1840
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 3: the touchdown.

1841
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: There, good call. I think I'm gonna hammer that. We'll start.

1842
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 1: You have a good weekend and talk to you next week.

1843
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm going brothers.

1844
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: The volume