WEBVTT - WWE $Billion in Revenue/Wrestlemania 38 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:11.160 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network, 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.280 live from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.520 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Vibe with your hosts 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:25.200 Brian Alvarez and Mike Semper vv Ready Are you ready? 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:31.120 Let's get it all? How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.360 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.680 Monday through Friday, now Pacific three Eastern Sunday, three Pacific, 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.400 sixth Eastern Friday. Here in this program. We got a 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:44.199 lot to talk about here today, not the least of 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:52.560 which is, for the first time in history a wrestling promotion, 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:59.480 that being w w E record one point zero nine 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:06.200 five a billion in revenues for a full year. This 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.840 is the power of the Fox deal, the USA Network deal, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.479 and running about the shows in Saudi Arabia, which may 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.560 in fact be increasing as we move forward here. So 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.720 whatever you want to say about the ratings the quality 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:26.679 of the show, they are making money hand over fist. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:32.039 I'm sure the hundreds of wrestlers and employees that have 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.119 been fired over the last year thrilled to hear this news, 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.360 but anyway, we'll tell you about all of that here 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.720 and also the rest of the news SmackDown is tonight 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:47.920 a w Dynamite on Wednesday, surprisingly low number thousand viewers 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:52.760 down thirteen point three per cent and UH point three 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.360 five and eighteen and forty nine down fifteen percent, So 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.160 most likely a combination of the NBA game in South Park. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.280 Will tell about the quarter hours and what happened during 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:07.440 the show. Also WrestleMania thirty eight, what's going on with 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:13.239 brock Lesner and Roman Reigns. Well, we'll see, because the 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.120 thing is, if you watch w W A television, you're 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.840 always led. I shouldn't say you're always led. Sometimes you're 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.440 letting a direction, but it's actually not the direction they're 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.840 going in. But I think they're going in the direction 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.079 that they appear to be going in, if that makes 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.760 any sense. We've also got a w partnering with the 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:34.600 American Heart Association and Keith Lee and the daughter of 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.359 Santino signing with w W. E lots to get into today, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.359 and we're gonna kick it off after the break. Wrestling 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:50.880 Observer Alive. 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See terms of conditions at 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:35.080 straight talk dot com. You're listening to Wrestling Observer Live 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.920 with Brian Albarez and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:44.600 Broadcasting Network. Tagging the show right, Elber is here Wrestling 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:55.400 Observer Alive. Mike simber vivl from Wrestling Observer dot com. Yes, 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.320 let's talk about vs. Budgetary issues that result did in 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.680 the firing of dozens and dozens and dozens, well over 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.560 a hundred people over the last over the last year 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:12.440 or so. Remember all those people got fired were budgetary reasons. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.240 Remember that I remember that you know who else remembers 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:20.440 that all those people got fired. W W announced Thursday 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.800 that twenty maybe this caught them off guard and thought 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:29.080 of that. W W announced Thursday company revenue increased by 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.880 twelve percent to a company record one point o nine 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.120 five billion, the highest in their history. The news came 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.159 on the same day as our quarter four earnings call, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.720 the notes of which can be found below. Among other 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:47.719 highlights mentioned in their release, increase in operating income to 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.960 two hundred and fifty nine million dollars year over year, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:57.360 fourth quarter revenue increased by thirty percent to three hundred 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:02.080 and ten million. Well operating income increased a hundred and 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.839 thirty one to eighty three point six million. Part of 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.159 that driver was live with in attendance, including they returned 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.719 to Saudi Arabia, which was not the case in the 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:15.440 fourth quarter of Consumer products increased by twenty one to 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:20.279 thirty two point six million, live attendance fifty two hundred, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.240 which was down from the third quarter but in line 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.640 with the fourth quarter of as usual. The call was 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.719 positive about the current day and future, especially as it 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.240 relates to the next round of a TV rights. By 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.680 the way, anyone thinks they're not going to get a 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:41.840 good TV rights deal. Think again, they're gonna. During the 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.080 Q and A portion President, w w E president Nick 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.359 Cohn indicated there are going to be more players bidding 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.000 on rights, and there were for the last round of 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.320 deals as players like Netflix, Apple and others joined the 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.919 fight for sports streaming rights. He later said they feel 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.960 as good about a new deal for w W ROSS 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.000 Second Day Streaming Rice as they did for their last 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.560 Ron SmackDown at deals and their Peacock Hulu deal. The 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.240 rights are currently with Hulu and are up this year. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.640 So Con provided numbers from Peacock that showed sharp increases 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.800 in viewership from when they were on the w w 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.280 E network. Money the Bank higher, Summer Slam over thirty percent, higher, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:28.520 Extreme rulescent higher Ground Jewel and Saudi Arabia seventy five 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:33.000 percent higher, and Survivor Series almost twenty five percent higher. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.080 Day One attracted sixty percent higher viewership than India December 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.200 premium live event in company history and was a big 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:44.200 success as it sold out. Later claimed this talked about 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.200 the success of the Rumble more than forty four thousand 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.760 in attendance. He said that's part of the entertainment portion 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:56.000 of the call percent higher viewership on at Peacock. He 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.560 said three point five million fully paid Peacock subscribers have 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:04.800 watched b A W programming since moving to the streaming service. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.359 We had brief comments from Vince no questions related to 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.480 a W, Shane McMahon or talent cuts. That was awfully 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.760 nice of those investors there. They're planning too large scale 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.600 international events next year, with con throwing in why just 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:26.040 limited to two So we may be having more Saudi 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.800 Arabia international events, which are good for about sixty million 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:36.120 dollars per show. I'll tell you a bunch of people 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.000 got calls here anyway. Uh. They talked about the n 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:43.640 I L programs several times. Stephanie said there's no reason 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.160 w W we shouldn't be in the hundreds of millions 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.240 in the years ahead for both advertising and sponsorship revenue 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:54.320 generated nearly seventy two million one and she said they're 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.520 looking at how to be a part of the metaverse 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.080 as they see a huge opportunity to be involved it. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:07.600 So there you go, hand over fist everybody. What can 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.160 you say with that kind of money that you make? 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.680 I mean, everything is just happy and swell for them, now, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.920 isn't it. I who knows what it actually means when 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.680 they say there's going to be other events outside of 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.040 the country. That could mean England, you know, for a 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.560 big show there or something like that, since they're not 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:31.720 tied into Sundays or a certain time anymore with Peacocks, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.240 So you know that's what that can mean. Possibly when 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.800 it comes to that, Who knows what the accident calm 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:45.760 here on this show. Yeah, Exfinity by the way, Exfinity 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.800 the parent company of Peacocks, see Universal is having all 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.360 sorts of problems in my area, So thank you Exfinity. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.800 So I won't believe you when you say that all 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.280 of these people on Peacock are watching the w w 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.280 E network. What does that mean? Does that mean they 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.600 watched one second of programming in an hour a minute? 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.200 What does that actually mean? So who knows what actual 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.640 some of these numbers actually stand for when you pull 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.120 back the onion on them a little bit. But the 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.880 bottom line is, as you mentioned, their next TV rights 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.760 are going to make some money. Their Hulu deals about 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.160 over with as far as their next day rights, So 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.560 do they sell them off to a different you know 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.480 how is that going to work? So you know, to 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.960 be obviously that's part of the whole mL W lawsuit. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.880 I mean, could we see to be try to make 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.800 a play for those rights. Does NBC Universal hold onto them, 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.200 which makes perfect sense? Do you just keep them on 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.480 HULO since well you serve two masters. Both NBC and 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.920 Fox have a stake in that company, so you know 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.080 who who knows exactly what it's going to be. But 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.320 the bottom line is WW makes lots of money and 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.200 apparently their stock is up about ten percent today. How 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.000 about you get off whatever you're on and get on 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:02.360 zip Lee Fiber. What. I don't have any actual options 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.559 down here. The only option is actually to get basically 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:10.439 direct TV styled internet. That's it. I had Exfinity, Comcast 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.200 Business Internet, and this is what it is right now. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.080 Hey listen, I don't I don't put much over here 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.680 in the show because I deal with just horrible companies 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.360 right and left. But this zip Lee Fiber that we 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.400 have around here. But I got no problems. I got 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.800 blazing fast internet. I've never even had to call. But 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.240 if you have to call, apparently there's like no wait times. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.240 So I can't say good enough good things and money. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.400 I should mention that though you know what sucks. What 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:38.599 are you on Exfinity? Hey, you know it sucks. Comcast 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.040 And my wife got a call the other day. They 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.959 were trying to uh sell her something like I'm gonna 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.040 switch from Zipley, but she didn't answer, of course, and 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.440 they left a voicemail and uh, I've sent this to 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.280 you because you know how your phone does voice to 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.760 they send. They transcribe it a train description as God 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.160 is my Witness is what it says. Hi, this is 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.640 terrible Comcast Business. Some exciting news I'd like to share 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.600 with you. Please call me back. And then there's a 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.480 phone number. This is terrible Comcast business. That's how it 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:21.480 was transcribed. It sucks. I moved to Comcast Business Internet 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.120 because I thought it made sense for the show, and 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.160 I got all these guarantees, got a static I G 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.280 five five G back up all this other horsecrap, And 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.000 the reality of it is the Internet actually worked better 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.920 and was faster with just the regular family Internet that 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.880 I had here at the house. So I am dying 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.600 for this contract to run out so I can actually 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.160 move back to the standard Internet, which worked actually better 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.480 than this pile of horse crap. Now I understand, Like 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.760 I could always say nice things about Exfinity for years. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.680 I could say nice things about Exfinity until I moved 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.200 to the business Internet and it just blows. Long time, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.720 Big Time SmackDown taking place at the pay Comes Center 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.440 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The updated line up for the show. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.800 Rhonda Rousey is gonna show with a smile on her 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:15.120 face to reveal which championship she's gonna challenge for WrestleMania 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.959 thirty eight. Paul Hayman will rejoin Roman Reigns and address 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:23.800 why he betrayed Brock Lesner at the Royal Rumbole. So like, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.360 did they call Paul and go, hey, are you on 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.560 the show today? Yeah? Okay, what do you do? Oh? 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.280 You gonna talking about how you been, why you've been? Okay, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.000 we'll write that in the preview. And Drew Mcatyre appears. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.080 So no, there's no matter. There's no wrestling matches announced 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.559 for the show tonight. But what do we need do 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:43.320 that for? We had a billion dollars a w Dynamite 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:48.079 on Wednesday, nine thousand viewers, down thirteen point three percent, 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.480 lowest audience for the show December fifteen, Dynamite's biggest week 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.320 to week drop since last April eighteen, and forty nine 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.520 point three five down fourteen point six percent, lowest since 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:05.000 December fift did finish third on the cable charts, trailing 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:09.439 the season premier of South Park on Comedy Central and 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.040 an NBA game on ESPN. We'll take by the quarters 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:40.360 everything else after the breaks. You were alive. You're listening 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.239 to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and Mike Semperviev 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.560 on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Back in the show, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.160 Brian Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simper Viv also 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:58.160 Wrestling Observer dot Com. Listen. I know a lot of 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.640 you on the chat wanted to be brandy that drove 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:08.160 off viewers from Dynamite, but it wasn't okay. Listen. Ever, 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:13.199 since they moved to TBS, there's been a pretty consistent 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:17.520 pattern with the a W ratings. A W ratings are 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.800 largely very consistent throughout the show. The quarter hours. They 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.560 they got little little dip but were I at here 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:28.120 a little dip, but they're largely stable. However, when the 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.720 show first starts, the first quarter is gigantic because their 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.000 lead in is Big Bang Theory, and they pick up 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.240 immediately when the show starts, a ton of those viewers. Okay, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:45.880 so those viewers don't watch the show. They turn it 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.400 off at some point in the next few minutes. All right, 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.800 So the the first segment of Dynamite is always huge, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.440 and then after that it settles in into whatever the 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.600 stability is going to be for the rest of the show. Now, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.600 last week, last week, when they did that Cody Sammy 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:08.160 Guevara ladder match, they kept some of those viewers longer 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.400 than usual. They kept some of those for over fifteen minutes, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.760 but then the show plunged and then it stated its 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.920 normal pattern. All right, same thing happened this week, except 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.400 the first quarter with Moxley and Wheeler Utah did not 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.920 keep a ton of the Big Bang Theory viewers. They 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.480 turned off during that segment. So the first segment plunged, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.400 and then the rest of the show was largely stable. 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.520 I know, if you if you look at like the picture, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.480 it's like, oh my god, Brandy showed up and they 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.280 all that's not what happened. They turned off in the 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.720 first quarter, and then from that point forward the quarters 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:53.160 were largely stable. In fact, uh, I guess it was 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:58.120 pretty much basically even the Brandy segment, the next segment 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:02.560 nine three, segment after that nine oh five, then up 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.640 to down to nine oh one, and then the last 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.560 five minutes with with Punk and MJF nine oh one 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:16.120 to ninety eight. So what happened here I believe and 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.520 trust me, this is not a good number, but the 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.400 young males decided that they were gonna watch either the 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.640 NBA or the premier of South Park and they just 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:31.400 didn't watch Dynamite at all. So you can, you can 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:35.040 look at the aberration of the first quarter and you know, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.120 come up with something if you want to. But what 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.600 actually happened is instead of doing around one point one 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.520 million viewers for the whole show, they did about nine 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.760 fifty So six d thousand viewers decided they were gonna 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.720 watch Dynamite this week and hopefully they d V arted 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.440 and the DVR numbers are all right. But what happened 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.240 was it was just largely a stable nine viewers throughout 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.000 the entire show. I mean, it did road during MGF 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.520 and c M Punk, but peaking of especially for a 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.360 forty five minute match, because we've seen that long matches 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.840 grow the numbers. I would have expected the show to 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.560 do much better, but that's what happened there. So if 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.520 you're looking to try to throw if you're not going 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.919 to try to throw anybody under the bus. I mean, 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.560 there's nobody to throw under the bus on this show. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.640 It's just what it is. There was no segment where, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.359 oh I hate that Brandy and Dan Lambert, I'm gonna 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.320 shut off the show and not that didn't happen. What 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.040 happened was people turned off the show in the opening 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:34.720 segment before Brandy and and Lambert and everybody even bothered 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.159 to show up. If anything, you could say that that 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:43.960 segment lost uh four thousand viewers. That's the best you 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:48.520 can say. And then the segment after that, Pawkin Penta 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.640 versus Malachi Black Brody King, I mean the show fell 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.800 even further after that match. So I suspect no one's 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.040 gonna blame them for anything, because you shouldn't blame anybody 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.680 for anything on this show. It's just what it is. There. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.400 You go, you apologist, you you know you'll get yelled 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.600 at for that statement. Apologize. I tell you what the 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.840 numbers were, And that's the thing that the show actually 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.520 was really consistent after they did have that drop, and 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.679 of course it's always disappointing when you're not at a million, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.200 because they proved they could be at a million consistently 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.680 for a little bit, so that's gotta their benchmark number. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.399 You know, nobody should be complaining about this show because 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.320 it's not like it was down that drastically. And when 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.760 you look at the good things on the show, where 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.240 the people that tuned in, were they happy with what 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.399 they saw? I believe that they were. So you just 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.880 gotta do what you can to try to bring anybody 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.600 and hold on to those people again from the first segment. 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.520 I don't know what they do next week. I don't 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.760 know how they react to this, but it's not like 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.000 it's the end of the world type of number. Here. God, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.200 this frozen simper vid. You may as well put g 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.440 raf up. I'm piste off right now. I hate these people. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.600 I can't even get into my email right now. They 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.160 haven't all sorts of problems with Axfinity. Alright, let's see 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:04.760 what we At least you can connect to the internet 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.840 as leaves of that you have that hardwired into this thing. Yeah, 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.280 we had, we had brock Lessner as the champion of 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.000 a brand, and we had Roman raised the champion of 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.160 another brand. Remember when that happened before the Royal Rumble. Yeah, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:24.359 and uh, it looked patently obvious to me, which is 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.000 foolish because nothing is obvious in w WV, but look 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.000 patently obvious that WrestleMania was gonna be Roman Reigns versus 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:37.040 brock Lessner title versus title. I was then told in 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:42.919 early January it's not title for title. I thought, Okay, 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.879 I mean, I'm not doubting it, but it's just one 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.120 of those things where so you're not planning a title 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.200 versus title match, but you're planning the match, and they're 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:57.200 both champions, and literally both of them have stated that 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.119 they want to do title versus title on television. Why 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.560 are you And this is funny because Vince hates this. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:04.960 Why are you building something up that you're not going 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:09.840 to deliver? Well, but the idea of their inevitable WrestleMania 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.359 thirty eight clash now needing something new, w w E 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.320 is considering making Lessner versus Roman Reigns a title versus 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.919 title match. Dave Melson reported the news and the Latest 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.440 Observer newsletter. He said the original plan did not have 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.639 a title versus title stipulation, but quote plans changed so frequently. 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:29.440 He said, the feeling isn't because of the two have 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.480 had done the match before. This encounter would need something 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.119 extra added to it that would increase the importance of 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:38.080 this month's elimination Chamber as Lesnar would need to win 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.520 the w w E title currently held by Bobby Lashley 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.920 at the Chamber match that both men are party. I 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.040 talked about this Monday after Raw. I was like, why 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.959 is Lessner in the chamber. He's either got to win 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.920 the title and then fans are gonna expect title versus titles, 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:54.800 So you either have to do title versus title or 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.880 what's the point of even doing the match. It's even 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.920 worse if you do Roman versus Lessner tie champion versus 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:02.960 champion and no titles on the line. How could you 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.280 possibly care about that? So Lesslie either needs to lose 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:08.240 or he needs to win the title and go title 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:10.520 versus title. So maybe on Monday they had already made 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:15.000 this accusion, but Vince is going to make the final call, obviously, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.600 But yeah, he says the original plan was not to 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:24.760 split Hayman and Lessner, whether with the Raymond or Hayman 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:29.000 Rains dynamic being so strong and Lessner not back full time. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:33.080 It was inevitable the original plan for their reunion change 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.800 due to Rains getting COVID nineteen and you need to 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.840 pull off the day one so as I expected what 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:40.720 they were going to do on day one, but they 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.040 couldn't do because the Roman had COVID. They did at 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.000 the Royal Rumble, So there you go. It's got to 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:49.520 be title versus title. It has to be right, might 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.280 be only one, there's something that makes sense once, for 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:57.879 God's sake, please, Plus you know, maybe we can like 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.679 fantasy book that into being one step closer to them 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.800 getting rid of the brand split. If there was only 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.960 one world champion at the very least you would have 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.800 either Roman reigns or brock lest Er on both shows. 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.240 That would be the fantasy. Although it really doesn't matter anyway, 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:17.080 because what does the brand split mean? It means nothing, nothing, 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:18.720 not a damn thing. But you know what, they made 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.000 a billion dollars when they had a brand split, so 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:25.480 damn it, it must be the brand split. Bro Listen 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:28.800 if you want to your stupid, useless pointless brand split 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:33.200 that has zero poss I don't care, but you unify 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.240 the titles and at least have a champion go back 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:39.159 and forth? I he needs to like, I don't get it, bro. 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.840 How many times have we just seen people going back 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:43.680 and they have every excuse in the book they have 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.520 people go back and forth. Oh, it's Rumble season, next 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.240 is gonna be Mania season, Then it's Survivor Series season, 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:57.679 then it's sewing season. We sew our oats before they're whatever. 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.480 But anyway, God, just unify these brands and make it 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.000 easy on yourselves. If you want to keep everybody on 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:08.040 a specific brand, like you can. You could do anything 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.960 because third day in to Row it's fake. You can 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:14.200 do whatever you want if you want to have Drew only, 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.720 if you want to run to only on whatever, have 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.800 them only on that show, but don't have a brand split. 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.800 So if you need him on Raw, you can put 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.840 them on Raw. So to come up with some stupid 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.719 excuse every month for why so and so showed up 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.960 on the other show, but they made a billion dollars 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.640 so it must be working. It wasn't the whole part 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.560 of the brand split too, you know, originally to create 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:40.080 new stars that you know could flourish, because you know 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.040 there wouldn't be all that log A lot of a 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.840 lot of good that's done, not a damn bit of good. 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.120 My heart rates low. That's why I can get away 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:54.600 with screaming every day. Mm hmm. What are you checking 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.400 in for? You have an apple watching them to tell 0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:01.160 you sixty a minute wears a watch anymore? It's either 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:06.880 for fashion or for exercise purposes. Nobody uses it tell 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.760 time they was just pall at their phone. Someone us 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.480 don't carry our phones. Seven mite. Bill Goldberg's final match 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:17.320 and there's current deal will be against Universal Champion Roman 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:21.639 Reigns at the elimination Chamber. Maybe he'll win the title 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.320 in his contract will inspire and he'll take a da 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:30.320 w God, that's not gonna happen. Saturday, February twelve, Elimination 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:36.000 Chamber in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Bobby Lashley versus 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.720 lesnar rawlins Austin theory riddle in a j elimination chamber, 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:45.040 Becky Lynch against leda USO's against Viking Raiders and apparently 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:50.160