Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club blowing out of the backfields,
Speaker 1: flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, presented
Speaker 1: by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome
Speaker 1: to Victory Monday. Thank you Wingstoff for bringing us this show.
Speaker 1: Thank you s WBC God not only my living room,
Speaker 1: but also Jesse Holly's front seat of his car, and
Speaker 1: to and to kick the show off, I got three
Speaker 1: words for you, Jesse Ho, Nate, Ho, Curt Ho. That's
Speaker 1: three homes for a ho Ho Ho Mary, Christmas week,
Speaker 1: all of you, let's get going. How are you? What's
Speaker 1: happening Jesse? Why are you in your car? And how
Speaker 1: is it such a your picture is more clear there
Speaker 1: than it isn't home like what's going on? I am
Speaker 1: so committed to you, guys. I am so committed to
Speaker 1: the fans. I didn't want a big time after a
Speaker 1: Cowboys victory. So I am in the parking lot. I'm
Speaker 1: steal in some good WiFi from our friends at Wingstop.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the Wi Fi, but Santa Slay was filled up
Speaker 1: this morning. I had all those gift bags and presents
Speaker 1: in my car and I was trying to deliver them
Speaker 1: all in a manageable time. But I didn't get it
Speaker 1: done and enough time to get back to either my
Speaker 1: office or my home. So I said, screw it. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm all about getting it done, baby, all right, Jay
Speaker 1: Holly gets it done. So I pulled over and I
Speaker 1: got the Wi Fi from one of our good sponsors
Speaker 1: at Wingstop Man, and I'm out here on that free
Speaker 1: Wingstop Wi Fi and I'm bringing you the show. Baby.
Speaker 1: Let's go nothing, yo, can't you hear me? Nothing? Yo? Yes,
Speaker 1: we're good, baby, We're good. I got enough gas to
Speaker 1: last us two shows. Let's rock and roll, baby, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: let's do let's do this show man. I'm just uh,
Speaker 1: really really proud of the way the Dallas Cowboys have
Speaker 1: really excited about the way. I'm just you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, uh, when we have so
Speaker 1: much negativity against the Dallas Cowboys and their abilities to
Speaker 1: win games, you know, and then when it just you know,
Speaker 1: when I tell you it's gonna happen, the way that Hey,
Speaker 1: I am not, mate, mate, I am not. It is
Speaker 1: the holiday season. Christmas is a couple of days away,
Speaker 1: Yes it is. You will not get on Jerry Jones's
Speaker 1: Internet and start talking this crazy talk today on Monday.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow. I am in the Christmas spirit.
Speaker 1: Don't make me be the grinch that stole Christmas. But
Speaker 1: you don't be sitting on here perpetrating these lies and
Speaker 1: false propagandas on this cowboy victory Monday. Do not do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. What I what I am saying
Speaker 1: is how many of you guys had the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: being victory on this victorious Monday. How many? Is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, you know, I'm just saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, mister h still of WiFi, he's doing holidays.
Speaker 1: It's the gift that keeps on giving. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: the WiFi is the gift that keeps so giving. Baby. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm just joking, man, I'm I'm excited to Jesu. He
Speaker 1: signed a picture to all of us. Man, how he
Speaker 1: had his trump full with toys and gifts. Man, They
Speaker 1: hats off to you, brother. I just wanted to throw
Speaker 1: that old craziness in there. You know me, I tell
Speaker 1: you what we might We might have picked him to win,
Speaker 1: but nobody picked him to have five turnovers and score
Speaker 1: forty one points against the forty nine and keep the
Speaker 1: run game under wraps for the most part, like they
Speaker 1: didn't let them run all over them. They had a
Speaker 1: little bit of success, but I mean it wasn't three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards like we all predicted. So question
Speaker 1: to you guys, is is I mean they gotta It's
Speaker 1: a very outside chance, but it's better than one percent.
Speaker 1: It's better than it was last week. They got a
Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs. You know, Washington has let
Speaker 1: me go first, Let me go first, go first, go
Speaker 1: please taught me off. This taught me off, this, let
Speaker 1: me let me, let me go by, let me stop you.
Speaker 1: If for those of that are just listening to the podcast,
Speaker 1: do yourself a favor and go find this on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com or on Twitter on periscope. The visual
Speaker 1: of Jesse doing this in a Santa hat and the
Speaker 1: people that are probably walking by him to go get
Speaker 1: in their car with him talking to himself with a
Speaker 1: computer on the dashboard, a microphone strapped to his chest
Speaker 1: and a cell phone. There's no telling what they think
Speaker 1: is going on. So go ahead, Jesse, go ahead. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make my statement very brief and very short. I know, shot,
Speaker 1: that's a lie. That's a lie. A lie. What a
Speaker 1: depleted roster from San Francisco with a bad backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys still gave up four hundred and fifty eight
Speaker 1: yards of total office. See, these are the things that
Speaker 1: get that. Somebody stop you, that's what somebody, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stop because you know what, it's all right. They
Speaker 1: gave up eight thousand yards. They won the game. You
Speaker 1: know what, what what I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: a great theory here. It keeps both things in play.
Speaker 1: Not for all all the quitters out there who use
Speaker 1: the word taking it mess y'all long, all the quitters
Speaker 1: out there, they use the word taking it mess you
Speaker 1: guys up. But it helped it, Dallas Cowboys, because you
Speaker 1: still won the game and you still get to lose
Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator. So hey, you went on and I
Speaker 1: am excited for victories. I won victories all day long.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to seem like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like the Debbie down on that debbut car
Speaker 1: down there, I I am excited and I am happy
Speaker 1: for those fifty three plus men that they got a
Speaker 1: victory on Sunday. Yes, but but but Shannon, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna you You're not gonna get on Stephen Jones's network
Speaker 1: and start talking about playoffs, man, playoffs, dude, eight yards
Speaker 1: to Jesse, Jesse, they had a one percent chance to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, when before the game started on Sunday
Speaker 1: that percentage went up. All they have five percent to
Speaker 1: it's in my percent. Now it's at five percent. Now
Speaker 1: it's five percent. You know what, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: with you shudder, because that's how most volcanos start. Hey,
Speaker 1: this thing only got a one percent into. Oh now
Speaker 1: I's got a five percent into that thing happened and
Speaker 1: it's it's few all over your Jesse. So and he
Speaker 1: the cowboys, baby cowboy like a volcano. Baby, it's building.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be rough then a couple of weeks. Jesse.
Speaker 1: You know it's funny. Nate can't even say that himself
Speaker 1: without laughing. Excited, Shuder, don't you do that, don't you
Speaker 1: fall to the dark Tide. No. Look, I'm realistic. I
Speaker 1: know this is still not a good football team, but
Speaker 1: it's it's nice to see them starting to play good.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis had a good game. He put a game together.
Speaker 1: Cheeto didn't have a terrible game. Donovan Wilson looks like
Speaker 1: he might really have something. You know, it's good. We
Speaker 1: talk about it all the time on the show. Let
Speaker 1: the young guys play. Let them play, And they're getting
Speaker 1: to play, and it's a little i mean, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit exciting and and otherwise you know, abysmal year
Speaker 1: on defense, we're actually getting some excitement. Forget how quickly
Speaker 1: we forget we started out just being a guy that
Speaker 1: just just apparently had a position at the Cowboys. How
Speaker 1: we quickly forget that we were selling cell phones before
Speaker 1: became mister four, That that Kurt had to go and
Speaker 1: pay to eight years of college before big fancy house.
Speaker 1: How quickly we forget where we come from. How quickly
Speaker 1: we forget that Chris being tricked his wife, that he
Speaker 1: was a big mega stary the Dallas Cowboys and married
Speaker 1: up in his life. How quickly we forget? Look, why
Speaker 1: are you throwing us all under the bus? What's going
Speaker 1: on there? No forgetting, I'm not forgetting where we come from. Baby.
Speaker 1: This is the Nate, This is the Nate Special. This
Speaker 1: is what Nate is great at. Right, Nate gets on
Speaker 1: this whole high horse about how he's the ultimate Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. What's what's on my whole hole? And he
Speaker 1: wants to get back in a good fans at any
Speaker 1: time the cowboys are riding high, Nate puts on his
Speaker 1: captain whole Cowboys and it's leading this ship. We're gonna
Speaker 1: start recording Nate in private and start playing it publicly
Speaker 1: because this because Nate always want to throw us under
Speaker 1: the bus and make us to be the negative debby
Speaker 1: downers and those who don't believe. When he tries to
Speaker 1: be the guy who stands in front and says, see
Speaker 1: those other three guys over there, those other four guys
Speaker 1: over there, adding Chris being to the mix, we sue,
Speaker 1: how soon we forget those guys don't believe, those guys
Speaker 1: don't truly at these are on some bridge in Dallas.
Speaker 1: You know, he was about to jump off to these
Speaker 1: cowboys one and now he's stuck in his car because
Speaker 1: he ran out of gas because he wait till the
Speaker 1: end of the game. I was constanmplating. I said, if
Speaker 1: they lose again, I'm taking it off the side of
Speaker 1: the mountain. And then they won, so I had to
Speaker 1: just sit here like like sitting on the porch and
Speaker 1: wait for my dad again. I'm just sitting here, sitting
Speaker 1: upgraded from the porch to the car. Hey what what
Speaker 1: trailer park? You sitting there? Jesse? Now, I'm actually I'm
Speaker 1: actually I'm waiting. I'm actually waiting for triple A. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm actually doing. I'm waiting for triple A. But hey, hey,
Speaker 1: all joking aside though they've now put two two games
Speaker 1: back to back together against you know, bad football teams,
Speaker 1: but they actually are they starting to buy into McCarthy?
Speaker 1: Is it starting to finally click? Are they actually playing
Speaker 1: team football? You know, you still got a lot of
Speaker 1: guys out on IR. I mean if you go look
Speaker 1: at the at the at the roster page on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com, it's it's damn here longer than the
Speaker 1: active roster. I mean, you got a bunch of missing pieces.
Speaker 1: Is this something to get excited about or is it
Speaker 1: just like you know what, they beat two really bad
Speaker 1: football teams, and this is still a terrible team. Those
Speaker 1: teams just made them look better. It's twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: Some of them. They got some healthy guys back, right,
Speaker 1: They got some guys healthy again, and they kind of
Speaker 1: played with a little bit more. When you have talent
Speaker 1: and you have a little bit more depth, you're able
Speaker 1: to do more things. So twenty five percent. That it's
Speaker 1: twenty five percent that how many weeks are we in now?
Speaker 1: After fourteen fifteen weeks, after all these weeks, is kind
Speaker 1: of finally starting to take form a little bit. Gods
Speaker 1: are starting to understand a little bit more. And then
Speaker 1: it's fifty percent. You played two really bad football teams
Speaker 1: with two backup quarterbacks. You played the Bengals with Alan
Speaker 1: and then you played the Niners with Mullin, who the
Speaker 1: Niners have eight consecutive game where they turned the ball
Speaker 1: over two or more times. So it's twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: You got some guys back healthy, it's twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: You finally kind of are understanding the scheme in your
Speaker 1: position and how to play within that scheme. And it's
Speaker 1: fifty cents fifty percent. You played two really you played
Speaker 1: two football teams that are that are at least one
Speaker 1: of them are are are more terrible than you, and
Speaker 1: one the other one is either on par with you
Speaker 1: or a little bit less than you. And you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do these things to bad teams. So that's how
Speaker 1: I break it down. Twenty five fifty. Wow. I still
Speaker 1: I still think it's it brings some excitement, though I
Speaker 1: agree with Jesse either. I mean, it's they got fortunate
Speaker 1: with playing a couple of bad teams, and they're getting
Speaker 1: ready to play a couple more so, who knows. I
Speaker 1: think this degenerating some excitement. It's getting some some good
Speaker 1: vibes going from McCarthy hopefully, hopefully the players are kind
Speaker 1: of buying in now and we're seeing some positive, positive
Speaker 1: vibes that can be taken in the next season. Philly
Speaker 1: looking good, Philly looking good. I'm loving it. They ricking
Speaker 1: all the quitters, all the quitters out there that go
Speaker 1: up under the disguise of tankers. I'm loving this, you quitters.
Speaker 1: We're not giving up, you quitters. I take it. I'm
Speaker 1: loving it. I grab onto anything I can grab on to.
Speaker 1: Speaking speaking grab speaking of tanking, they went from having
Speaker 1: the fourth overall pick now to the eighth overall pick
Speaker 1: and if they win the next couple of games, and
Speaker 1: it's getting worse, Titters, it's getting worse for all you quitters.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we will talk about Cowboys. Forty nine Cowboys are Kelly More?
Speaker 1: Was this his best called called game? Nate wasn't him?
Speaker 1: So you know, we get we gotta get into Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard talk. Uh, it looks like we may have lost
Speaker 1: Jesse because he looks frozen. Either that or he's just
Speaker 1: really happy right now because he has a smile Stone.
Speaker 1: I think he's just going all be Twitter and everybody
Speaker 1: you like my mash, my math, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: you know what. We might even talk about Jesse's college
Speaker 1: football team making the playoffs and playing somewhat of a
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Speaker 1: Kurt also wants to know this. Kurt also wants to
Speaker 1: know this. Yes, how in the hell can you go
Speaker 1: from having seven turnovers in the first nine games of
Speaker 1: the season and now you have eleven in the last
Speaker 1: five Tank mentioned after the game they've been practicing this.
Speaker 1: My question is, shouldn't you be practicing this every practice
Speaker 1: that you have all the time, and is there a
Speaker 1: reason for the turnovers or is it just like why
Speaker 1: now I suggestion before Jesse's having me, I'm crazy, You're crazy.
Speaker 1: Before you even start the suggestion. When you get guys
Speaker 1: comfortable in their positions and they know where they can
Speaker 1: try to take chances at, and they know what they're
Speaker 1: looking at and what's before them, because you notice in
Speaker 1: the last two or three games guys ain't just been
Speaker 1: running free behind them. Whether it's whether the defense is simplified,
Speaker 1: it whether these guys have gotten comfortable now they've gotten
Speaker 1: a few turnovers and now they're looking forward. And once
Speaker 1: you start looking forward, it becomes automatic, it becomes your nature.
Speaker 1: And that is where these cowboys are at now. And
Speaker 1: then when you're not playing the best of teams with
Speaker 1: the best of the ability, you just take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: And this is what these cowboys are doing. Once they
Speaker 1: got a game ago, once they got that first turnover,
Speaker 1: it just multiplied. And then when you got Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 1: who we saw eight years ago as a rookie making
Speaker 1: plays in the preseason, then he disappeared. He's back and
Speaker 1: he's having fun and he's he's learning. So my hat's
Speaker 1: off to these guys, man. I mean, just keep going
Speaker 1: the where you're going, and then we get some better
Speaker 1: players to help you next year, and then we can
Speaker 1: really compete, you know, sister. I mean they you know,
Speaker 1: they got rid of the deadweight earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: I think you calling who is that? Yes, I think
Speaker 1: they had all their starters playing, I believe, And I
Speaker 1: mean so it kind of makes you wonder, whatever, I mean,
Speaker 1: if they'd had these guys all year, would this maybe'd
Speaker 1: be a different different team we're looking at. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, because with the loss of that it was
Speaker 1: gonna be an adjustment period. But I think Uh, it
Speaker 1: couldn't have been no worse because we was giving up
Speaker 1: a thirty six point six points a game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: a lot of teams sacrifice the first half of the
Speaker 1: seasons so they can be competitive in the second half
Speaker 1: of serious season. They may they knew they was gonna
Speaker 1: may not make the playoffs, but uh, we were forced
Speaker 1: to do that. Unfortunately, we should have, you know, we
Speaker 1: should maybe should have tried. I don't I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: try to second guess the coaches in the management. But
Speaker 1: the way it seems, that's how it worked out. Jesse
Speaker 1: went on a spiel what eight weeks ago, like, hey,
Speaker 1: now they're forced to do it. So here's where we sit.
Speaker 1: Can they win without turnovers? No? No, no, because the
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards maybe getting in them now and the
Speaker 1: yards they'd be getting a come to fruition, then it
Speaker 1: would be forty five thousand points instead of thirty three. Jesse, Jesse,
Speaker 1: now's your chance. Ask him, is Nate is Nate crazy?
Speaker 1: Is that Nate's crazy whether he thinks it or not.
Speaker 1: But his statement is sound. He is crazy, but his
Speaker 1: statement is sound, and it's it's it's one of of
Speaker 1: of an educated well put Uh. Thing. You know. No,
Speaker 1: Nate hit it right on the head. They hit it
Speaker 1: right on the head. I do think Nate is crazy,
Speaker 1: But his statement was nail hammered to the head right there.
Speaker 1: That was I don't have to say nothing there. That's wow.
Speaker 1: That's the first on the show. Unbelievable. Okay, well, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Some guys got hurt in the game,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you if you if you notice
Speaker 1: a pattern here Antoine, Woods, Layton Vandersch, Michael Gallup, they
Speaker 1: all went out with injuries. Do y'all notice one thing
Speaker 1: in common with those guys? Yeah, yeah, yep. Don't put
Speaker 1: me in there. Don't listen here, I'm pulling the Nate now.
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly has never been a part of any other
Speaker 1: interviews that you've done with any of those guys. So
Speaker 1: blame Nate, blamed Kurt, blamed Shannon, and blamed Chris Bean
Speaker 1: for hitting the record button. Jesse Holly has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with that because I have not been there for
Speaker 1: any of the interviews that we've done. Because every time
Speaker 1: we interviewed the guy, he either had a bad game
Speaker 1: game or gotten hurt. Is there is there hanging with
Speaker 1: the boys curse. Also, Xavier woods Uh left the game injured. Two.
Speaker 1: Did you guys believe in curses or did you believe
Speaker 1: in Jeeks's or were y'all superstitious when you guys played.
Speaker 1: I believe in a in a nice routine, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want disrupt the right. That's what I believed. I
Speaker 1: don't like to use some other words. I believe it
Speaker 1: did it? You did it? Throw you off? If you
Speaker 1: pounds it was hard to throw me. No, I'm with Nate.
Speaker 1: I had I had a solid routine from the time
Speaker 1: that I woke up to what I ate at breakfast,
Speaker 1: to the route that I took to get to the game,
Speaker 1: to all, you know, being on the first bus and
Speaker 1: then away a game hot club. I mean there was.
Speaker 1: And when you don't have it that way, it throws
Speaker 1: you off. You just thinking, like man, you just don't
Speaker 1: feel right. It's something about when your routine is thrown
Speaker 1: off by anything, it messages with your mind. It meant,
Speaker 1: that's with your mind a little bit, and it has
Speaker 1: you kind of almost second guess in your day. You
Speaker 1: should have got to go out there and play, but
Speaker 1: you just like, dang, something just doesn't quite feel right.
Speaker 1: But you didn't believe in. You didn't believe in like
Speaker 1: a maddened curse or anything like that. You wouldn't say,
Speaker 1: don't put me on the cover. And yeah, I take
Speaker 1: the check. You know I was hosed me to death. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take that chap. Put me on mad and I
Speaker 1: wish hurted me up. Oh man, I'm gonna tell you something,
Speaker 1: dope fellas about these Dallas Cowboys and these injuries. Man. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's why I think we we I know, the pandemic
Speaker 1: is still here and they got the certain people are
Speaker 1: getting shots and stuff like that. But man, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: got to find a way to get their players in,
Speaker 1: get them conditioned, and get them healthy and get them
Speaker 1: one accord. You know, they to find a way because
Speaker 1: this just can't be every year thing. And those guys
Speaker 1: that are continually to get injured, you have to get
Speaker 1: rid of them though, you know, I know that's an
Speaker 1: ugly thing. But a lot of coaches after after you
Speaker 1: show to be that type of guy, they won't hold
Speaker 1: on to you. But but but but Nate also will
Speaker 1: McClay if you're listening, Uh, and scouting staff stop bringing
Speaker 1: in guys who are often injured, Like look, at the
Speaker 1: guys who are often injured in college, Sean Lee leadon
Speaker 1: vander Ess, Jalen Smith, And you bring these guys in
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're surprised that they're getting
Speaker 1: injured in the National Football League. That that's something that
Speaker 1: we have to look at we're starting to bring in
Speaker 1: and you know, potential, we gotta stop falling in that
Speaker 1: love that word potential, potential, potential, that that's a that's
Speaker 1: an ugly word. Man. That just means you haven't proven anything.
Speaker 1: And if you're often injured on the college level, with
Speaker 1: you know, half of the team being right in the
Speaker 1: other half, that you're just way better than what do
Speaker 1: you think's gonna happen when you get to the National
Speaker 1: Football League. So we got to also put some of
Speaker 1: that onus on the front office and the scouting department.
Speaker 1: Stop drafting and bringing in guys who were often injured
Speaker 1: in college and then all of a sudden be shocked
Speaker 1: and surprised when they get to this level and they're
Speaker 1: often injured in the league. It's a paddle here, and
Speaker 1: that that's the way it happens with injuries. If you're
Speaker 1: an injured guy in college, the likelihood of you getting
Speaker 1: to the league and all of a sudden not becoming injured.
Speaker 1: It's slim the none. You're probably going to be injured,
Speaker 1: if not as much or more in the NFL, more games,
Speaker 1: more physical, more wear and tear, better competition, longer seasons.
Speaker 1: So we have to start doing a better job. Would
Speaker 1: stop bringing in off and injured players? Is that Ray
Speaker 1: Flag gotta counsel something. Neither one of you guys missed
Speaker 1: a lot of time, na man. I mean, even if
Speaker 1: I wasn't your man, I was a free agent. I
Speaker 1: wanted from the mission, no games bro exactly. We weren't
Speaker 1: gonna you weren't gonna give my spot to somebody else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I played broken thumb, broken ribs, torn ACL. I mean
Speaker 1: not Tormaniscus slight tear my ACL. Never out. You wasn't
Speaker 1: taking me off the field, new sir. I wasn't giving
Speaker 1: anyone a chance to get my ten dollars. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm here today from the parking lot outside of wings stop,
Speaker 1: outside of the wingstop? Did you drop the gifts off yet?
Speaker 1: You still gotta go drop those off? N They're all done,
Speaker 1: They're all done. Empty center sled is empty. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: That is awesome. What did you think is is this
Speaker 1: momentum they're getting towards the end of the year. This
Speaker 1: is what you want as a as a general manager,
Speaker 1: This is what you want as an owner, This is
Speaker 1: what you want as a coach. Is your team to
Speaker 1: play well in December and they have played well in
Speaker 1: December or better than the rest of the year. Does
Speaker 1: this do they still know what the issues are? Or
Speaker 1: let's just say they win the next two games and
Speaker 1: they win the last four and even if they don't
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, they end with some momentum and they
Speaker 1: they beat some you know, below average teams in the
Speaker 1: NFL to finish out on a four game win streak.
Speaker 1: Does this put the blinders back on to what the
Speaker 1: issues are on this team? Or do they know coming
Speaker 1: out of this like, Okay, we finished with some momentum,
Speaker 1: We got some things clicking. We still have to go
Speaker 1: address X, Y, and Z all of with caps. Will
Speaker 1: you hit the cap thing on you on your computer
Speaker 1: and lock it and go ahead with caps? Me? No, man,
Speaker 1: you you you know? Okay? Now you have to decide
Speaker 1: at every defensive position. Is this a priority? In depth?
Speaker 1: Can he start some games. Is he a priority in depth?
Speaker 1: Where do he fit? Because when you look at our team,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that play on our on our
Speaker 1: defense event are not starters on those teams. So now
Speaker 1: you say, okay, is this a twenty five snap of
Speaker 1: twenty five percent guys? It's a forty percent guy. How
Speaker 1: does he fit into our scheme? And so you you
Speaker 1: you try to bring competition that's better. It ain't no
Speaker 1: equal because you need to stay like you are. You
Speaker 1: bring in a better player with the right mindset that
Speaker 1: I'm coming to get a job, and it forces that
Speaker 1: other guy to step up a little bit. That's how
Speaker 1: you look at that. And now and for the first time,
Speaker 1: I do how to admit some of our offensive assets.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to We're gonna have to give us
Speaker 1: some of them up to get a better defense that
Speaker 1: can help with these turnovers and continue that. That's what
Speaker 1: you got to bring in the next year, is those turnovers.
Speaker 1: This momentum carry though from one season to the next.
Speaker 1: Live it just just live it of confidence what it
Speaker 1: does for what it does for the players. Also, see
Speaker 1: when you're when you're when you have all these losing ways,
Speaker 1: the moment that season ends, you want out right, I
Speaker 1: want to go my own corner. I want to go
Speaker 1: do my own thing. But when you have a little
Speaker 1: bit of momentum and you have a little bit of positivity,
Speaker 1: it kind of gives guys that, man, let's you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go on vacation. And of course
Speaker 1: we're in this COVID world now, so vacation may be
Speaker 1: off limits. But it makes you kind of want to
Speaker 1: stick around and get with the guys and see, if
Speaker 1: you know what, can we build on this? Can we
Speaker 1: build on you know, our our our relationship, our techniques
Speaker 1: and things of that nature, and our our skill set,
Speaker 1: and so it definitely helps. The momentum of winning helps, right,
Speaker 1: because when you're winning, it feels good, It makes you
Speaker 1: want to it makes you want to do more. When
Speaker 1: you're losing, you kind of don't want no parts of
Speaker 1: anything or anyone. So if they could pull off the
Speaker 1: next two victories and you know what, however the season
Speaker 1: may end, whether it's in the playoffs or out the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that gives you some confidence and some momentum heading into
Speaker 1: your off season and something to uh to kind of
Speaker 1: just be a springboard to a really good offseason, just saying, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: let's get right back at it. Let's get right back
Speaker 1: at it. Let's not let this thing, you know, let's
Speaker 1: not let it go. Let's not let's not go goos.
Speaker 1: Let's not, you know, spend too much time apart. Let's
Speaker 1: get right back to it. And THEATE has been hammering
Speaker 1: this that we don't know what the off season may hold.
Speaker 1: So when you're when you're officially done, we gotta get
Speaker 1: into We gotta get into it because if we have
Speaker 1: another shutdown, if the NFL says, hey, COVID this or
Speaker 1: COVID that, you can't do X, Y and Z. I
Speaker 1: need to be able to get my guys together as
Speaker 1: much as I possibly can, as soon as I possibly can,
Speaker 1: to evaluate, to teach, and to begin our process moving
Speaker 1: forward on what we're going to be as a football team.
Speaker 1: Let's take our last break, and when we come back,
Speaker 1: we will get into some offensive talk. And then I'm
Speaker 1: up for the Philadelphia No, no, no, just offensive from
Speaker 1: this game. Tony Pollard, Okay, let this lie without talking
Speaker 1: about Zeke Nathan. You know, we can't do that. And
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Speaker 1: get an isolated shot of Jesse, I am looking at
Speaker 1: an episode of either Karaoke Cab or Cash Cab and
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Speaker 1: thinks you might start working on your side hustle with Favor.
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Speaker 1: so we could hook you up. Jesse. You can do
Speaker 1: like a Cowboys Favor two fans. You know what we
Speaker 1: should do a we should do a Cowboys cash Cab
Speaker 1: or a Cowboys Karaoke cab where we pick up players
Speaker 1: and we drive them around the Star and ask them
Speaker 1: Cowboys trivia. That would be fun, that would actually be
Speaker 1: so so. I actually pitched that idea a year ago
Speaker 1: to our boss, Derek Eagleton. I pissed that, like maybe
Speaker 1: a year or so ago to do that because I
Speaker 1: got to I got, of course, from how they were
Speaker 1: doing it, and and I do my Friday videos where I
Speaker 1: sing in the car. But I pitched at about a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago, and uh got shot down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: too many, too many liabilities. I was told that's true,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. But anyway, Yeah, I like to look.
Speaker 1: It's a cool aesthetic, Jesse. I think you should do
Speaker 1: it even when you're at home or at work. Just
Speaker 1: go out to the parking lot. Maybe. Yeah, well actually
Speaker 1: like it? Hey you want you want to get on
Speaker 1: the show? All right, next week? Okay, that's awesome. Okay,
Speaker 1: last last part of the show. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Kella Moore called a great game. Probably figured out a
Speaker 1: way to get Tony Pollard involved in the right way. No,
Speaker 1: no z correct. What do you guys think about the
Speaker 1: game that he called in the way that he was
Speaker 1: able to use TP not toilet paper, Tony. Here's go ahead. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean he showed some new wrinkles. There was a
Speaker 1: couple of drives there. What that one series he did
Speaker 1: a big in round and had had the belldozer getting
Speaker 1: the first down. I mean he pulled out a few
Speaker 1: more rinkles. I mean, it's it's kind of the stuff
Speaker 1: we've been asking for and wanting to see. So I
Speaker 1: think he's of course, I've been saying he's been good
Speaker 1: all year. You guys have kind of didn't gets him
Speaker 1: a little bit, but yeah, it was fun to see.
Speaker 1: Makes a game fun when it's successful, if it's if
Speaker 1: it's not anywhere all pitching. But to me, what Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore is he had he called a really good game
Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. What the what the things that he had?
Speaker 1: It's it's I'm still waiting for more consistent, complete games,
Speaker 1: like because he'll do stuff in the game where like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well he featured Tony Pollard. Okay, I get it. But
Speaker 1: then like you start giving the ball to Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: Like Noah Brown should never have more attempts than Amara
Speaker 1: Cooper and a football gap. We should never have Amara
Speaker 1: Cooper out there blocking on a bubble screen for Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: Like the deals that, well, what's going on with that
Speaker 1: that blews my mind, man, And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's certain things are like wait a second. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like you'll take two steps forward and you'll take
Speaker 1: three steps back. So for me, it's like I want
Speaker 1: to be able to see Kelly Moore use everyone like
Speaker 1: you know how Kansas City uses every single weapon, like
Speaker 1: nobody is not, Like there's not any meat left on
Speaker 1: the bone when it comes to weapons being used in
Speaker 1: New Orleans, in Kansas City, in Tampa Bay, Like I
Speaker 1: want to see that we would have, Like I want
Speaker 1: to see Zeke, Tony Pollard, City Lamb, Mary Coop. I
Speaker 1: want to see all of them in a game being
Speaker 1: used properly. And for me, Kelly won't give me that.
Speaker 1: He won't give me that complete game where guys are
Speaker 1: being utilized and their skill sets are being utilized. Like
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard needs to be in space. Put them in space.
Speaker 1: You know, Ceedee Lamb needs to be in space. Put
Speaker 1: them in space. You can use Amari Cooper anywhere you
Speaker 1: but I want to see Kelly Moore be able to
Speaker 1: take the ap we have, Like if we're just looking
Speaker 1: man for man across the board, I'm willing to put
Speaker 1: our Zeke, Tony Pollard, Ceedee lamb Amari Cooper, Dalton Shorts,
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup. I'm going to take those guys, those
Speaker 1: skill guys, and put them up against any set of
Speaker 1: skill guys across the league, man for man, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: we got some of the best, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: put them up with anybody and saying we can do that.
Speaker 1: But yet still we come up and it's like we're
Speaker 1: only average in eighteen points a game. I get it,
Speaker 1: we don't have our starting quarterback and if we did,
Speaker 1: it would be more. But you're still like, wait, we
Speaker 1: only had three hundred yards total offense with all of
Speaker 1: these weapons, even not having Zeke. I just want to
Speaker 1: I want those guys to be utilized and their strengths
Speaker 1: more more consistently, more often. And I think once he
Speaker 1: begins to learn how to do that, that's when he'll
Speaker 1: kind of get his offensive coordinator superpowers to really be
Speaker 1: ignited and and and on display. Nate, I agree with Jess.
Speaker 1: I mean, to us explayers, is just simple, use your
Speaker 1: talent that's out there on the field. Man maximizing. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody keep waiting for this, oh man, that was a
Speaker 1: great move by letting Amari block for come on, man,
Speaker 1: we ain't gave Amari twenty million dollars blocked from Noah Brown, right.
Speaker 1: And so I tell people, I say, the little things
Speaker 1: that people don't see is how in the world that
Speaker 1: the tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs is running
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. Want they just get
Speaker 1: a backup to do it? I mean, it don't work.
Speaker 1: It don't work when you can't use and expose the
Speaker 1: talent that's been for you. I mean, you should be
Speaker 1: sitting at home saying, I'm gonna draw the craziest play,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna end with with a Mari. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: drop up the stupidest play, but it's gonna in with
Speaker 1: z I'm gonna drive up this play, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: in with Tony Pop. You gotta use your ruppies. And
Speaker 1: when when you don't do that, it don't happen good
Speaker 1: for you. They're just overthinking it, you know, thinking that
Speaker 1: the defense is gonna key on a Mara, so we
Speaker 1: gotta go somewhere else. You can't stop him, though, if
Speaker 1: you use it the right way, you can't stop him.
Speaker 1: And and that's the thing. It's like, don't don't try
Speaker 1: to get don't don't outthink yourself. Don't don't do that
Speaker 1: like this, Okay, we're going to a Mari. Fine, let's
Speaker 1: go to a Mari. Don't don't try to outthink yourself. Like,
Speaker 1: just don't. Keller wants to outthink himself, like you're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to just I don't know, like
Speaker 1: like I wanted some time to be a fly on
Speaker 1: the wall to think what you thought when you drew
Speaker 1: that play up and you said, oh no, if this
Speaker 1: is how we're gonna get them, I'm gonna have Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper blocking four Noah Brown on the screen. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Noah Brown the reverse. You're like, wait,
Speaker 1: what no, no, no, So funny though, Kurt, I want
Speaker 1: you to Okay, let's break this down. If you worried
Speaker 1: about Amari Cooper and you worried about two men gonna
Speaker 1: be on him, ain't them saying two guys gonna be
Speaker 1: on him when he go to block for Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: And I's gonna be three guys over there, so you
Speaker 1: out number two to three. So it's just that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just you know that is My thing is you
Speaker 1: you know, I used to hear coach Johnson look at
Speaker 1: you know, look at his coaches, like, hold on, man,
Speaker 1: we got this dude out here on the corner and
Speaker 1: we're doing what we're trying to blitz him. He's our
Speaker 1: best cover guy. Why are we trying to blitz him?
Speaker 1: Who we who were fooling? They're gonna say, oh man,
Speaker 1: he coming on a blitz. That's the rat to this guy.
Speaker 1: Stop man, just do us right. Football is simple. We
Speaker 1: players and a lack of ability with players mess up
Speaker 1: simple things. Coaches, office, the coordinates. It's simple, sometimes simple
Speaker 1: and good enough. We got to have the rousal DOWNSA
Speaker 1: question for you, Jesse before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Got a couple of minutes left. Nobody made a big
Speaker 1: deal about it, really because it because it worked out.
Speaker 1: But CD, instead of falling on that ball, which it
Speaker 1: kind of looked like he was about to, saw that big, wide,
Speaker 1: open green space out in front of him and could
Speaker 1: not help himself and just took it to the house.
Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with that as a former
Speaker 1: special teams guy. Nope. Remember I was the same guy
Speaker 1: I picked up a punt that didn't have no bit
Speaker 1: of being in my area. Took it back for a
Speaker 1: touchdown in Minnesota. So I'm an opportunity. I'm an opportunity
Speaker 1: to kind of guy. Cd CD did his job to
Speaker 1: kick the ball to me. I caught it. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: no one's talk me. Oh wait, that's a big hole. Oh.
Speaker 1: I'm an extremely gifted athlete who can run really fast
Speaker 1: with the ball in my hand. I'm gonna go score
Speaker 1: a cheap touchdown, and I'm gonna have a kickoff return
Speaker 1: for a touchdown all my resume and a touchdown all
Speaker 1: my resume off of cheap, cheap, little onside kick. I
Speaker 1: got no problem with that man cd CD did with
Speaker 1: any athlete would do in that moment. See now, if
Speaker 1: you put a big stiff out there or tight into
Speaker 1: somebody that they're gonna fall and cover up CD like, no,
Speaker 1: I can catch the ball. This is what I do
Speaker 1: with the ball in space, I run and go get touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I got no problem with a guy like Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: doing that. Did they do the coach really tell him
Speaker 1: that he that he was wrong? Do you think they
Speaker 1: really said that to him? It's it's that it's that
Speaker 1: kind of uh you know, you know, Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: you're out. You're out. No, no, no no, you're out. You're
Speaker 1: out with your son, right and you're like, listen, don't
Speaker 1: tell your mother, but we're getting ready to go do this,
Speaker 1: and he's like okay. It's like that's like in the public,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, well he was for doing that, and
Speaker 1: probably I'm gonna be like, that's a hell of a play, kid,
Speaker 1: like way to go. So it's it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta say this thing publicly so people don't think
Speaker 1: that I'm a bad Special Teams coach. Are I'm a
Speaker 1: bad coach and allow this stuff to happen. But on
Speaker 1: the inside, I'm saying I wanted to go, kid, hell
Speaker 1: of a play, wait to go? Wait, wait, you gonna
Speaker 1: get yourself a touchdown right there? Now. Now I will
Speaker 1: say this. I will say this. Everybody won't have that
Speaker 1: luxury though, like you gotta understand, everybody won't have that
Speaker 1: luxury and certain things. You go, all right, CD can
Speaker 1: do that, but you know, hey, uh get down, you know, backup,
Speaker 1: running back, get down you all you other you other guys,
Speaker 1: get down. CD. All right, now do your thing. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: no more dominant me putting the markup out there blocking
Speaker 1: for number agent. Speaking of doing your thing, Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: I will be hosting cross Talk on our new night
Speaker 1: for the next two Mondays. To close out the season.
Speaker 1: We will have very special guests Danny McCrae and current
Speaker 1: and Cowboys employee on the show tonight, another very good
Speaker 1: special teams guy get some of his opinion. Dog Yes,
Speaker 1: talk to him. Uh So, tune in tonight seven o'clock
Speaker 1: on one oh five three the Fan Local and then
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and our social channels. It
Speaker 1: will be streaming live, so check it out. Only got
Speaker 1: two on the show. You know, conflicting networks won't allow
Speaker 1: that to happen, Nate. I'll let you put a net request.
Speaker 1: I'm going straight to the top. Kurt, what's on you?
Speaker 1: What's on your sweater? Is that Bill Murray again? What
Speaker 1: you got going on for? Just you knowers and trees
Speaker 1: and things like that. Deers and trees? All right? Hey, Kurt,
Speaker 1: Kurt wife say they're going on the road trip soon
Speaker 1: as the season nowhere, they're going on the road trip. No,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I can't do that. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: can Now you're backing out. Okay, you get scared. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's one of those things. Nate, that's one of those things.
Speaker 1: Just like Jesse just said, you say in the public eye,
Speaker 1: and now I can't do that. Can't do that. Rip
Speaker 1: ah fellas. We need to wear the middle of light
Speaker 1: sweaters in Unison one day this week. We'll get it together.
Speaker 1: We'll pick it out. Man texted, don't don't don't eat
Speaker 1: men at texted, I get still working out the show
Speaker 1: schedule for this week, but we will be here tomorrow
Speaker 1: and Wednesday, for sure. We're figuring out Thursday, No Thursday,
Speaker 1: no Friday. Man, come on, man, No Thursday, no Friday.
Speaker 1: Get curious. William a break man. He got kids working
Speaker 1: on Thursday, No show Friday. We will be back tomorrow,
Speaker 1: same time, same place. Jesse, go, thank them folks at
Speaker 1: WiFi at week Stop for giving you that free WiFi.
Speaker 1: Nate at Santa Hat, Kurt, thank god for us the
Speaker 1: light color on Cowboys, Cowboys, Cowloys, Cowboys Boys, Oh now
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