WEBVTT - Rick Wilson, Amanda Zurawski & Randi Weingarten 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.680 today's best minds, and Donald Trump says there could be 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:15.440 a little economic disruption. We have such a great show 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.320 for you today. We have the Lincoln Projects own Rick 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.920 Wilson talking about the infighting in Trump's White House. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.480 Plus we'll have a bonus from our YouTube channel where 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:30.120 Molly interviews American Federation with Teachers President Randy Weingarten about 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.600 Trump's attacks on teachers. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:37.440 Then we'll talk to Amanda Zarowski about the consequences, the 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:42.640 life threatening consequences of Texas's strict abortion bans, even in 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.720 the case of an inevitable miscarriage. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.040 But first the news, So Malli, Trump will not resume 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.800 Ukraine military aid after just signing an order to send 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.800 many billions more of military aid to Israel. So this 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.160 whole Trump's a peaceful president compared to the Democrats. It's 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.520 a little silly, I think again. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.280 The point here is that he did not use Congress. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.319 Congress is supposed to do this, right. Donald Trump is 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.280 not supposed to decide where the money goes. He's not 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.160 a king, right, Kings decide where the money goes. He 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.560 and his top aids are claiming credit for a massive 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.920 weapon deal with the Biden administration's approval in its final days. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.759 They're saying that that was them. In announcing the latest 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.000 deal that skirted congressional review, the Secretary of State Marco 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.400 Rubio claimed that the US administration had approved nearly twelve 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.520 billion in new weapons to Israel just six weeks into 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.840 Trump's second term. Now look again with all of this, 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:43.160 what you see is Donald Trump not using the channels 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.600 he's supposed to, right, not legislating, picking the winners and 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.680 the losers, right, deciding that weapons will go to Israel 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:55.200 and weapons won't go to Ukraine. This is not how 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.920 any of this is supposed to work. Congress is supposed 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.360 to allocate funds, Congress is suppose to decide where weapons go. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:05.480 Congress should have the power of the purse, not Donald Trump. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.679 What Donald Trump has done, and this was part of 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.400 Project twenty twenty five, We talked about this a lot. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:16.120 What he did was he decided that, you know, the 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.560 brain trust, and some of these people are quite smart, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.240 which is how we got here in the Heritage Foundation universe, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:28.079 decided that they would use this congressional impoundment, and they 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.200 would dole out the dollars, not as how Congress tells 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.520 them to do it, but how they wanted to do it. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.440 And this was something Nixon did and there was legislation 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.800 passed after Nixon to prevent this from happening again. And 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.600 Donald Trump would really like to bring this to the 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.720 Supreme Court because he can do math and he thinks 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.320 that he has a six to three Supreme Court, which 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.160 on a lot of things he has. And the question 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.520 I think we're going to see more of is does 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.359 he have a six to three Supreme Court, which he 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.440 very much might, or does he have more of a 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.560 five to four Supreme Court. Justice Roberts and Justice Barrett. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.600 Are they maybe knocking a rubber stamp everything Donald Trump does, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:11.360 because we know Gorsicic and keg stand Kavanaugh will sign 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:16.000 out on anything. Alito and Thomas they're basically Fox News 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:20.280 hosts at this point. So the question really is will 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:24.720 the sort of two sane conservatives and that, by the way, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:29.880 it's all relative, will they say that Donald Trump cannot 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.400 be a king? And the answer is none of. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:33.839 Us know, nope. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:38.160 Speaking of his king like aggressions of silence, saying everyone 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.240 he disagrees with CBS is pushing back against him in 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:43.040 a lawsuit. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.240 We should all be thrilled that there are some iota 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.880 of bravery. One of the worse things to happen to 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:54.520 American democracy since Jim Crow is the billionaires who immediately 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.320 when Trump came into office again just rolled over and 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.320 decided they were going to do whatever he said. Were 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.360 some media outlets that did that too. But the good news, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.960 and this is actually really important because every time someone 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.120 stands up to Trump, Trump gets weaker, and every time 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.560 someone rolls over to Trump, Trump gets stronger. And so 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.560 here we have Paramount CBS's para company filing two motions 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.240 on Thursday. By the way, part of these lawsuits is 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.920 just to scare people, to silence them, to get them afraid, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:30.359 to make them think that somehow they are going to 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.600 be able to control the media, control the narrative. So 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.160 this is very good. They're going to push back. They're 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.000 probably going to win, because this is how the first 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:45.920 amenent works, unless they repeal the New York Times VI Sullivant, 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.440 which we're not going to talk about right now. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.719 No, but I will tell you what we will talk 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.120 about two weeks ago, we had Governor Walls on our 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.520 debut on YouTube and started a conversation about some of 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.120 the things that he did not think We're done well 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.760 on the presidential campaign he was part of. And he's 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.600 continued that conversation as some interesting things to say. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.919 Yeah, so Walls, I really like Walls, and we have 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.800 been a bit friendly and I've talked to him and 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.360 I think that he is in the most genteel way 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.800 he possibly can, trying to push back against some of 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.640 the things that made Harris and again Harris one hundred days. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.880 None of this is on Harris, and a lot of 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.719 this is the legacy of Biden world and made Biden 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.240 lose and made Biden's pulling so bad. Part of it 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.359 was the consulting class around Biden and later Harris is 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.880 terrified of doing anything because they are incentivized to just 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.440 do nothing, which is why they lose. So Walls said 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:57.040 something hardly controversial, We shouldn't have played this thing so safe, 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.919 one hundred percent true. Anyone in the world would say this. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.479 In fact, they were scared of their own shadow. They 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.160 didn't push back against any of the lies. And so 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.000 while Donald Trump was running these ads that said crazy 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.320 stuff that wasn't true. Voters were you know, they didn't. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.800 There was no pushback, so they just went along with it. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.159 They believed it. But I think the worst part of 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.880 this story is that in a statement, a Harris advisor 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:28.240 granted anonymity to speak candidly. Okay, this person is given anonymity, okay, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.360 so they are not identified to speak candidly in their 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.480 candid speaking, they say, And by the way, no one 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.719 should get fucking anonymity for something that stupid. It's like 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.599 a press release. In the shortest presidential campaign and modern history, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.280 Vice President Harrison Governor Walls put forward a vision of 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.000 the future that prioritized the health, safety, and prosperity of 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.599 the American people. She is proud to have chosen Governor 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.240 Walls as her running mate and earned the vote of 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:58.240 seventy five million Americans. This is why Democrats lose. Why 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.720 would you need anonymity for this? Sign your fucking name. Okay, 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:03.480 I'm sorry. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.560 I think I could tell you why they need anonimity 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.440 for it, because this is exactly the type of shit 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.520 that made them and not have a good message. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.840 Yeah, weak, bullshit. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:16.760 Week, bullshit baby week, bullshit. You don't need anonymity for 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.280 a press release. You're welcome, Somali. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.520 If I was the editor of a news organization, one 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.760 of the first things I would just do is, as 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.240 I would listen to Trump to a State of the 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.720 Union speech, I would just assign a fact check to 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.240 each of his things, because you're just gonna win the day. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.920 Would you dig a little deeper on the bullshit examples 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.960 they use of all the things that are rotting America 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.840 that mister Trump complains about. And I'm going to shock you, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.119 but where there's smoke, there's fire. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.560 Speak for yourself. Baby. This is like when I saw 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.960 that poor kid with cancer and they were like, this 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.240 is DJ Daniel. DJ Daniels, a thirteen year old from 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.120 Texas with diagnosed with brain cancer. By the way, and 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.920 this is like my thing with Elon right. They're cut 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.640 letting children's cancer research. This is what they're doing. So 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.240 here we go. Trump honored a cancer survivor. You'll be 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.559 shocked to hear the boys doctors now face his budget cuts. Okay, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.720 the medical school faculty that helped treat him facing potentially 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.440 devastating federal funding cuts. Of course they are, because that 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.080 is like peque Donald Trump, right, they honor the kid, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.880 They're like, we want to honor you DJ and also 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.440 make it impossible for kids here. So this is Baylor 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:35.720 College of Medicine, famous Texas University. They are cutting Texas 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:40.800 Children's Hospital. That the hematology center is going to face 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.560 budget cuts. By the way, you'll be shocked to hear that. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:49.480 They are also cutting EPA right, the Environmental defense right. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:54.160 So they are cutting the government agencies that keep cancer 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.680 causing chemicals out of the water. They're cutting that too. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.360 So here's what's going to happen. More childhood cancer, you know, 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.720 more kids getting cancer, less kids getting treatment for cancer, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.920 and all to pay for a tax cut for Elon Musk. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.360 Rick Wilson is the founder of the Lincoln Project and 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.400 the host of the Enemy's List, Welcome Back, Too Fast Politics. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.360 Rick Wilson, Lollie junk Fast. How are you this fine day? 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:23.000 Oh? 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.240 Just live in the dream. So I want to talk 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.040 about the recession. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:28.480 That we're now. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.640 I mean, you know, it was a tumultuous week. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.400 For the Could you speak more precise please, It's the 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.480 Biden session. It was all his fault. He secretly still 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.360 controls every aspect of government and Joe Biden launched an 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.839 insane trade war. I mean, and no one would have 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.400 thought to do that except the demonic mastermind of the 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:47.480 deep state, Joe Biden. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.760 I mean, We're down such a fucking rabbit hole. I 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.880 don't even know. Like, I feel like the one bright 0:09:54.960 --> 0:10:00.360 spot is Marco fighting with Elon fighting Wisdy Bannon. Like 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.000 everything is bad except that that is kind of fun. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.560 You know, stupid people do stupid things to other stupid people. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.680 I don't think Steve Bannon is stupid. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.000 Oh no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is right now. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.760 Trump has a symbol a cabinet of people who are not, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.800 as they say, being sent by the best. Yes, and 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.120 most of these people. Look, I will say this having 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.040 known Marco, Marco is not stupid now, but he has 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.360 put himself in a situation where he is governed by 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.440 a stupid man. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:29.719 And it's unwinnable. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:34.920 Right. There is no circumstance where Marco wakes up in 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.840 the morning and says, Okay, I have control over my department. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.000 If Elon wakes up with a heart on one day 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.520 goes I'm going to cut out all you know, all 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.080 diplomatic efforts in Africa or whatever, he says. You know, yeah, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.880 the stupidity level is is rocking. I want you to 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:55.400 have only air trafficking is only from my tea, their genesus. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.640 So basically what we have here is big reporting from 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.600 the New York Times on Thursday. By the way, like 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.000 I understand that a lot of people are mad at 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.199 the New York Times for any number of reasons, and 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.600 I get it, and I'm not saying that you can't 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.000 be mad at them, but this reporting is unrecking believable, 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.160 and we wouldn't have it if it weren't for people 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.120 like Maggie and Swann who know how to do this. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.160 Look, the idea that every story in The New York 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.520 Times has to conform to the fantasy of the resistance 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.960 is wrong, And the fact is that vital reporting is 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:32.520 going to come out. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.959 And we need this right in part. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.200 Because people like Jonathan and Maggie and others from the 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.400 Times and elsewhere go and do the ass kissing and 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.240 the sucking up and the horrible shit you have to 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.640 do to function in that world. And while I don't 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:46.800 love all of it. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:50.560 It's keeping democracy going. Knowing what's happening in the government. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.000 Now. We might not know that as much with Jeff 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:58.280 Bezos's Weekly, you know, Tiger Beat for Donald Trump stuff. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.040 But the Washington Post still does really good at reporting 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.439 and pro publica. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.640 Oh look, listen, listen. I will say this, and I 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.080 say there's literally a couple hours ago to somebody. Look, 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.520 the Post still has a lot of good reporters. Is 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.400 in a bad spot right now. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.960 But they're doing good reporting. I mean, it's just the 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.040 editorial page is going to be I mean, this is 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.880 like the problem with the Wall Street Journal too, right. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.400 The reporting in the Wall Street Journal is second to none. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.160 The editorial page has brainworms, and that's what we're going 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:26.319 to have at the Washington Post. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.680 Probably, yes, brainworms, is it? 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.959 The thing that's interesting about the Wall Street Journal editorial 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.480 page is when they don't rubber stand trump Ism, you're 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.480 kind of shocked, right, So when they're like, maybe we 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.760 shouldn't go to war with Canada, I think this is 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:46.199 a very kind of scary moment. I mean, in my mind, 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.720 like one party is completely untethered to reality and is 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.480 just going along with whatever Donald Trump wants. And you know, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.000 he is an Autocrat, and what he wants is no 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.719 checks and balances for him, and you know he's being 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.920 aided by the richest man of the world. It's not 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:01.920 a great moment. 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.200 No, it's not a great moment. There are tensions in 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:09.560 that moment. There are uglinesses in that moment. And do 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.200 I wish we had more people who could fight it. Yeah, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.920 of course, but right now we really don't, and so 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.000 we have to fight with the army we've got, not 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.040 the one we want at the. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.079 Moment, right I mean, the good news is if we're 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.000 gonna like go for good news, which I happen to have. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.160 You know, I always think about, like what are my biases, 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.720 And one of my biases is that I like good news. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.240 One of the pieces of good news that we have 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.080 is that this crew does not get along super well 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:35.720 with each other. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.120 Imagine how that could have been. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.120 And we saw this in trump one point. Oh you know, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.000 part of trump Ism is making the people around you fight. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.880 The good news is that that is an unsustainable model. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.640 Look the degree to which Trump's people have always eaten 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.320 one another. It occurs not only because he picks terrible people, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.520 but because that's what he wants. He enjoys watching them 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.360 carry other part right, he loves Fight Club, he loves 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.280 he loves Marco and Elon Scrapping and Sean Duffy and 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.040 Elon Scrapping. Elon's problems at the moment are going to 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.440 grow more pronounced over time, in part because he has 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.640 been the pet for the last few months. But you 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.680 can only be the pet with Trump for so long. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.840 And as rich as Elon is, Trump is beginning to 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.920 sense that Elon is costing him money and political capital, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:31.880 and that political capital has got to be restored somehow. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.400 And Trump, as we know in the past, will sell 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.840 down anybody up to and including family members. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:38.920 Yes, we've seen. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.080 And if you think Elon is going to get a 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.880 free pass, when when? When When Jared Devaka did, Don 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.920 Jingior didn't. I just I think that's a misapprehension. Now. Look, 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.400 is Elon tremendously powerful inside the Trump organization and government 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:58.680 run absolutely does does anything last forever with Trump? No, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.360 and often he often he finds people who are doing 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.840 a good job and knocks them down a notch just 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:06.760 to show them that he can. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.160 Yeah. No, I think that's right, and I think we're 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.560 going to probably see a fair amount of that as 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.640 we go through this and look, if you look at 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.960 I always say, like, the most useful indicator of Trump 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.200 two point oh is Trump one point oh. Right, so 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.360 Trump one point oh. We saw a lot of things 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.920 like Steve Bannon was in the Trump White House, remember. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.400 That, and then he became sloppy Steve or whatever it was. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.320 And there will be a day where Trump decides one 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.360 of these guys has to go. It will be a 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.960 day where where that person suddenly and Elon may be 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.560 the hardest of these to do, but suddenly it's like, oh, 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.880 they weren't really important. I barely knew so and so 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.000 he was a coffee boy. He I guess he did 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.360 a couple things in the campaign. The verb I believe 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.359 is to Papadopolis. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.720 Yes, that's right, we all remember him from season one. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.320 One of the things that's so bizarre about the sad 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.560 Man is that Trump has has this rule that he 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.720 won't put people in the jobs they had last time, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.520 because I guess it's boring for the studio audience, But 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.440 there are a ton of really competent people dying to 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.200 go into that White House anyway. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:19.760 Well, and even some of the people that they thought 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.200 were going to be normies to wit Scott Bessant have 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.160 turned out to not be normies. And you know, I 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.560 think best and I think that statement last week, like 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.440 inexpensive goods are not part of the American dream, Well, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.800 they need to be part of the American dream. But 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.120 you want to go and tell that to a middle 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.720 class mom who's in Target shopping for groceries for a kid, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.200 or some are closed for a kid. 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.000 What's why they elected him, right? I mean, it may 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.080 not be the American dream, but it was as much 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.040 as the man had a mandate, it was that to 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.359 make egg prices. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:54.320 Cheaper exactly, and none of that stuff has transpired, and 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.560 people are legitimately even in mango world. Look, it's not 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.680 that they're sick of Trump. I don't think they can 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.200 get sick of Trump. I think that's genetically wired into 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.120 them now. But they are tired of the chaos. They 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.399 don't like the noise and the uncertainty, and they don't 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.520 like the sense. And I think it's a correct sense 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.560 that Trump and Elon are doing things that are hurting veterans, 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.000 that are hurting people out in the States, that are 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.920 leading to people losing their jobs, and for all of 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.919 the government is this large and complicated thing. There's a 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.280 part of this that comes down to a simple fact 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.320 that a certain percentage of people in government are going 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.680 to be maga voters. And the idea that nobody gets 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:37.400 hurt in. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.439 This is absurd, right, No, And the idea and I 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.680 mean I don't want to like harken back to things 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:49.600 that actually happened, but this Congress, right, we're like careening 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.359 towards the government shutdown that no one seems interested in, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.520 but still is imminent, right unless they figure it out. 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.960 What's happening in this government shutdown world is that they 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:04.960 we signed a resolution that said that they're going to 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:09.480 cut eight hundred and eighty billion dollars. The whole idea 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.920 of dog is that somehow they're going to find eight 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.679 hundred billion dollars of fraud somewhere and not have to 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.160 cut any programs. But the reality is there's no world 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:20.159 in which that's true. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.840 There is a fantasy in which there's eight hundred billion 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.840 dollars of fraud wasted abuse hidden away in government, and 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.399 those eight hundred billion dollars of fraud wasted abuse are 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.800 somehow just waiting there for the taking, And it's just 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.560 a lie, it's just a fantasy world. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.560 But they know this, right. I mean, like there is 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.199 no way that Mike Johnson doesn't understand that there's not 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.439 eight hundred billion dollars in fraud, waste and abuse. So 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.120 I mean this is just a setup to be able 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:48.760 to cut medicaid. 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:50.840 Oh yeah, look all of it, All of this is 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.520 about cutting medicaid. Every bit of this is about cutting 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.240 cutting Medicaid. And look, there is a really ugly underpinning 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.320 to a lot of the stuff with Elon and all 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.879 these weirdos of we're going to take out the useless 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.560 eaters and we're going to restore government so we can 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.360 pay for our tax cut, which will be a wonderland 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:12.280 of infinite pleasures. And the problem is every day that 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.960 passes with DOGE, we're learning more and more that they're 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.480 not finding tens of billions of dollars of fraud. They're 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.280 finding a handful of programs here and there, a. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.360 Lot of which have been cut under Bush that. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.359 Were already cut or canceled as long as ten or 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.879 twelve years ago. And programs then as much as you 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.879 can get like a breathless little news hit on Fox 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.360 or something that mostly these things are pretty popular, or 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.560 they do things that are not what the Trump world 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.640 claims that they do. I mean the transgenic mice thing, 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:47.960 you know, where I don't want to blabor it because 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.080 it was so stupid. But a lot of the things 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.600 that they can get, like a little microscopic Fox News 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.960 outrage hit, just aren't meaningful. They just aren't real. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.400 Premise of doge is that you're going to to find 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.280 this fraud, waste and abuse, right, and that in itself 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:07.200 is not unpopular. But the problem is there isn't fraud, 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.200 waste and abuse at the scale in order to make 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.720 it cutting it a game changer. Now that said, if 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.040 you define fraud, waste and abuse as social programs you 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.720 don't like, well that's a different story, right. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.520 And look what is it they don't like. You know, 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.400 we've talked about it before. It's the Willly Sutton rule. 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.360 You got to go where the money is. And if 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.560 they really want to have this massive set of cuts 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.840 in government that lead them to the ability to fund 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.359 even a fraction of this ten trillion dollar tax cut, okay, 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.040 they are going to have to cut Medicare, Medicaid or 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.040 social security or disability. Those are the ones where there 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.680 is real money, where there is real capital to be had. 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.159 But I have a feeling we may have already lost 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.280 the ability on the Trump side of the equation to 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.399 actually drive this giant tax cut through like they did 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.640 in twenty seventeen. Oh. Interesting, people are increasingly nervous. People 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:06.040 aren't increasingly unhappy. They are increasingly feeling like elected electeds. Yes, 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:07.959 they're worried that they're going to go home to their 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.639 district and have to say, yeah, by the way, sorry 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.080 about the fact that I cut the National Park Service 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.840 and there's dysentery breaking out because we've killed HHS, and 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.280 there's a measles epidemic. And by the way, we're now 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.160 in a recession because Trump didn't think what would happen 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.720 when Elon fired five hundred thousand government employees in the Washington, 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.760