Speaker 1: This he's Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training
Speaker 1: Camp in Oxnard, California. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian froms
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones and Happy Friday from Oxnard,
Speaker 1: California and talking Cowboys as we kick off your big
Speaker 1: football weekend. We've got a big football weekend here in Oxnard, California.
Speaker 1: And inn't that a great thing to talk about as
Speaker 1: we get started here, so much to get to Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones talk to the media for a little bit coming
Speaker 1: off to practice field yesterday. We'll get into some of
Speaker 1: the things that he talked abound over the course of
Speaker 1: the next hour here, and we lead you up to
Speaker 1: the annual Blue White Scrimmage on Sunday, which will be
Speaker 1: broadcast right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com and on
Speaker 1: Texas twenty one in Dallas four or six o'clock Central time,
Speaker 1: four o'clock here on the Pacific coast. And what a
Speaker 1: glorious morning it is here in Oxnard. Absolutely and then
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, like you said, working into the weekend.
Speaker 1: We had a nice practice yesterday we could talk about.
Speaker 1: We got our periscope up and going. Mickey, you can
Speaker 1: be any happier right now? Could you? This is just lovely.
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning. It was fifty nine degrees
Speaker 1: when I went out there work out, and I think
Speaker 1: it's warming up one definitely, it's it's warmer today than
Speaker 1: it was yesterday. I haven't checked the temperature right now.
Speaker 1: I think Brad Chad and told me the high today
Speaker 1: is projected to be seventy eight. Oh my, hot one.
Speaker 1: We'll take that. Yeah, Dallas Fort Worth, you hear that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot time. It's not rubb it in, No,
Speaker 1: we won't. And it is sixty three degrees right now. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And uh back in at NT Stadium right now, it's
Speaker 1: ninety degrees. Rob, how are you doing this morning? I'm
Speaker 1: doing fantastic building. I can't. Yeah, I missed a little
Speaker 1: bit of the practice yesterday. But you know, Dave hellman
Speaker 1: is is right there with the tweets, the VIDs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got great coverage on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So
Speaker 1: ready for another one to day kicking things off talking
Speaker 1: about that. Uh, there's some great stuff out there right now.
Speaker 1: They got posted yesterday or last night. Uh. One is
Speaker 1: the process. I love the video. It's a nine minute
Speaker 1: video the process, which uh, but it sounds like it's
Speaker 1: going to be a week to week a weekly thing
Speaker 1: that I know Chris Beam is a part of producing,
Speaker 1: and Caden Gates. Uh. And um, but it was they
Speaker 1: followed Gary Brown from his home getting on the team charter.
Speaker 1: I mean it was. I just sat there in my
Speaker 1: hotel room and watched that. It was. Uh. I just
Speaker 1: thought that that is a terriffic thing that the new
Speaker 1: media can produce now the old traditional, our old school,
Speaker 1: not you rob so much, but where we used totally
Speaker 1: have four TV stations to watch and so forth, and
Speaker 1: the options were so limited. This is what digital media
Speaker 1: is all about, people to do that kind of stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then I love the Dak thing what he did
Speaker 1: with us on the car wash yesterday. You guys, the
Speaker 1: Dak drinking game. You got to check that out on
Speaker 1: social media or I assume it's also posted on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. I haven't been able to check the
Speaker 1: website yet, but um, it was really funny. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I was first to go on the interview. Did you
Speaker 1: were you in on the gag? No? Not before? Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. The reaction was funny. Your first question,
Speaker 1: and then he takes a sip and you're kind of
Speaker 1: like looking at him, and then he keeps taking SIPs
Speaker 1: and you feared something was going on. Well, I let
Speaker 1: into the question, which wasn't you don't see on that?
Speaker 1: My my first question to Dak was what I was
Speaker 1: in press Moore than anything with this first interview with
Speaker 1: the media out here was the fact that apparently he
Speaker 1: watches Jerry Jones press conference. Sure, and because he had
Speaker 1: that same reaction when a contract question came up, what
Speaker 1: was out I didn't hear you, you know? And so
Speaker 1: he talked about that at first, and that led me
Speaker 1: into asking the question, so along those lines, do you
Speaker 1: need a rushing champion to win a Super Bowl? And
Speaker 1: he was right? So he took this big old along
Speaker 1: drink drink of his Statorade. So do you want to
Speaker 1: pull the curtain back and tell what he did then?
Speaker 1: And so the next question I asked was about Jerry.
Speaker 1: If you and Jerry just got together for five minutes,
Speaker 1: you could hammer out a contract. Long swig again, so
Speaker 1: I asked about Zeke and I asked about the contract. Okay,
Speaker 1: finished a bottle Gatorade on Those are the only times
Speaker 1: that he took a long swig, all right. Next up
Speaker 1: was Dale Hands and he asked probably a Zeke and
Speaker 1: he was doing the same thing, and that's where okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: something's up here. And they're not like subtle swigs. These
Speaker 1: are these a big yeah yeah, which which I love.
Speaker 1: I love the comedic timing of it. It was was perfect,
Speaker 1: But it just says so much about what Dak is like.
Speaker 1: You know, Nui Scruggs was next, and I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't think he asked about Zeke or the contract,
Speaker 1: but then Doucy. Doucy had figured it out by the
Speaker 1: time he got up sure, In fact, we had talked
Speaker 1: about it before he got up to be ready. Actually,
Speaker 1: his was funny because he was going to ask the
Speaker 1: question and then he figured out, Okay, every time there's
Speaker 1: a question about a contracts he didn't. He didn't figure
Speaker 1: out in the course of the interview. He knew going
Speaker 1: into that, you know, I'm saying he did, yeah before
Speaker 1: he went in, So he was getting ready to ask
Speaker 1: the contract question. He goes, okay, take a swig the
Speaker 1: preemptive strike, and then Dak said, whoever off camera, I
Speaker 1: know who it is, but I'm not gonna say um
Speaker 1: that I think they're onto our game, so but I
Speaker 1: mean it's just and then the way Dak handles all
Speaker 1: the questions and everything, he's just what you want leading
Speaker 1: your football team. You know, just the way he handles everything.
Speaker 1: He just the pressure and all the stuff, it just
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't phase him. And it's kind of you
Speaker 1: can use that as lip service with some guys, but
Speaker 1: I really believe it with him. Yeah, and he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's twenty six years old. You know, I think what
Speaker 1: I was like when I was twenty six. And aside
Speaker 1: from that, because those interviews they're nothing, okay, but it's
Speaker 1: out here on the football field and how he leads
Speaker 1: this team and how he engages in everybody on the team.
Speaker 1: You know, when they're going to drills and they're getting
Speaker 1: started and he's high five and everybody. He doesn't care
Speaker 1: whether you're a well he's not here now, but if
Speaker 1: you're the Pro Bowl running back or the fifth string
Speaker 1: running back, he engages you into the team because he
Speaker 1: knows what team is all about. Kind Of had a
Speaker 1: rough day yesterday, throwing him the two minute drill late
Speaker 1: in the two minute Yeah, it kind of reversed because
Speaker 1: I thought the previous practice the offense sort of dominated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about that Jason Garrett was saying,
Speaker 1: if you have an offense that plays well one day,
Speaker 1: defense not so good, but then it flips, then you
Speaker 1: know your team's doing all right. You don't want one
Speaker 1: side of the ball just completely dominant. I thought Dak
Speaker 1: was not as good as he needed to be in
Speaker 1: that two minute drill yesterday watching him throw that ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, but coverage was good. They got some pressure. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know that those guys in the secondary, those guys
Speaker 1: in the secondary are starting to show up a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I really am impressed, you know with what
Speaker 1: I've seen with Anthony Brown at about there. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about Jordan Lewis and what he's done, Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods playing as a safety. So that might have to
Speaker 1: be more about those guys affecting Dak than than really
Speaker 1: Dak having a bad day. But he was off on
Speaker 1: some of his throws yesterday that I thought he was.
Speaker 1: He's been completing through some of these products. You seeing
Speaker 1: some of it that they're not on the same page
Speaker 1: with with It's not the same page it's just guys
Speaker 1: doing a really good job some tight window throws. If
Speaker 1: you remember the compete period, he throws the ball over
Speaker 1: the top of Witton. You know, with Xavier Woods covernment,
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods is fighting his rear off to stay. That
Speaker 1: used to be the Byron Jones drill. Byron him and
Speaker 1: Byron Jones used to go at it when they used
Speaker 1: to heat and Witton would go and they did. And
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, as I remember one time, Byron Zoe get
Speaker 1: back in the huddle, old man. I mean, he waved
Speaker 1: his finger at him and told him that. And but
Speaker 1: now it's Xavier Woods. And you see, Xavier Woods is
Speaker 1: a good enough athlete, but boy, he's a shorter guy.
Speaker 1: So he's it's like he's shooting tennis balls off a tank.
Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of banging, banging with him. But
Speaker 1: he didn't give Dak a window. Dak tried to throw
Speaker 1: it over the top. And so you're seeing some throws
Speaker 1: he's having to make that are a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at some of the interceptions and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I think those are good plays. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at some of those tight window throws you might saw
Speaker 1: tune the compete period with Anthony Brown. When what he did,
Speaker 1: they tried to get to Gallop inside and I mean
Speaker 1: he was on him and as soon as he've made
Speaker 1: that break, there was Anthony Brown offhand knocked the ball down.
Speaker 1: So you know, if Good's going against Good and Goods
Speaker 1: trying to get the ball to Good and it's not work,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's part of the good things you
Speaker 1: get to see silently. Anthony Brown has had a really
Speaker 1: good Yeah, he really has. Yeah, you know, and they
Speaker 1: kind of switched it up the other day because he
Speaker 1: had been, uh starting out on the right corner with
Speaker 1: the first team and then when they went to nickel
Speaker 1: he'd come inside right and Jordan Lewis was just go outside. Well,
Speaker 1: that previous practice before the day off, they started with
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis on the outside and then when Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: came in, he just went in into the slot. And
Speaker 1: they changed it up a little bit, but they went
Speaker 1: back to that normal rotation with Anthony outside. So, uh,
Speaker 1: he's been pretty darn good and you know this is
Speaker 1: a contract drive season for him too. And Mollie Collins, right,
Speaker 1: you watched Millie Collins in the one on fast. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was watching him do the standing bag drilled down
Speaker 1: there with the block and dummies and him going through
Speaker 1: in and out the four little power man. He's quick,
Speaker 1: is speaking a quick You're still seeing Dorans I'm strong
Speaker 1: to show that quickness in the pass rush. One other
Speaker 1: thing about the corner situation, Jordan Lewis, he had a
Speaker 1: handful of pass breakups and in the various drills yesterday,
Speaker 1: he's just once again he's in a spot where you
Speaker 1: know Byron's out right now, he'll be back, and you
Speaker 1: know he's looking at third fourth corner again as well
Speaker 1: as Anthony Brown's playing. That's you know he's on track
Speaker 1: to keep that Nickel job. Yet whatever Chris Westery, did
Speaker 1: you know he had some personal business he took care of,
Speaker 1: came back, he jumped right back in. Had a couple
Speaker 1: of nice plays too. I think overall, just the secondary,
Speaker 1: you know, the receivers were seeing some good looks. You know,
Speaker 1: John Vay Johnson unfortunately had a ball go off his
Speaker 1: hands that he had on the sideline. I mean Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush in the two minute drill hit him with a
Speaker 1: good pass. But man, did you see the play that
Speaker 1: March Lillard made. I mean he comes from march low
Speaker 1: to the simple zone drop and he goes, he reads
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the balls I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's falling, falling, falling, and he just one hand scoops
Speaker 1: it and that tipped. Yeah, well no it got so
Speaker 1: it went off john Bay Johnson's hand right, and he
Speaker 1: scoops the ball as it's going to the earth and
Speaker 1: able to roll over and make the play and get
Speaker 1: the second offense off the field. So love the tower.
Speaker 1: It's not often that those guys getting mean throwing it
Speaker 1: up to Jerry. Yeah. The drills are all kind of
Speaker 1: conducive to offense, moving, moving, moving, and then you know,
Speaker 1: but that was that was a great point. You know.
Speaker 1: Another thing I noticed when they were doing the walks
Speaker 1: or the special teams and they were practicing kickoff uh coverage. Uh.
Speaker 1: Both Armstrong and Covington were out there right, the linebacker
Speaker 1: Covington right. Uh. And and so you noticed that, Okay,
Speaker 1: they still think these guys are going to make the team.
Speaker 1: And then there was another guy out there that seems
Speaker 1: to be coming on out of nowhere, Luke Gifford. There
Speaker 1: you go. He was the only young guy on that
Speaker 1: kickoff coverage team. Everybody else had been on the team before,
Speaker 1: but he's been moving up and now he's on the
Speaker 1: second with Sean Lee not practicing, Joe Thomas going to
Speaker 1: the first team, Gifford's on the second team right now.
Speaker 1: So we got a mail back question about that Sam
Speaker 1: spot this morning, and you know it was a fair
Speaker 1: question because with Sean out, is there somebody in the
Speaker 1: Kyle Wilbur realm that could when he was here, that
Speaker 1: could moonlight between hand on the ground to a stand
Speaker 1: up SAM position. And Brian pointed out the depth there
Speaker 1: is better than you might think because of Gifford, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned Covingtons. See, people don't know Gifford yet. Mickey,
Speaker 1: did you guys a favor out there by talking about
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia said the same thing in in during Training
Speaker 1: Camp Live yesterday, Hey keep an eye on this number
Speaker 1: fifty seven. She noticed the same thing that Mickey had,
Speaker 1: that he's getting involved in some of the special team
Speaker 1: stuff every morning. David Hellman and I come out here
Speaker 1: and walk or run on this field, and Luke Gifford's
Speaker 1: out here by himself working on Kickslide, Kickslide. Henry Schroke
Speaker 1: of the pro scout is also out here running and
Speaker 1: Henry walked by him one day and goes, keep keep working.
Speaker 1: That's that's what you got to do. Keep working on that.
Speaker 1: So he's got that kind of temperament. And University Nebraska
Speaker 1: played as an outside really as an outside linebacker, but
Speaker 1: now playing more inside. A matter of fact, with scouts,
Speaker 1: scout's eye goes up later today, he's my eighth point
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. Good eye by Mickey though
Speaker 1: to notice Satisfy six three two five pounds link in
Speaker 1: Nebraska was a high school quarterback as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: and played basketball, so he's an athletic guy, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: uh so keep an eye on fifty seven Luke Gifford
Speaker 1: out of Nebraska, the rookie undrafted free agent. And that's
Speaker 1: what you get from Bill's scouting report there for for
Speaker 1: the free season scrimmage, I should say, yeah, there, you
Speaker 1: gotta make a few tackles. This guy'll make a few tackles. Bill,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about him probably a lot more. We'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see what this linebacker again. I think that you know,
Speaker 1: it's nice to Covington's back, but I kind of had
Speaker 1: coming to as a bubble player. Yeah, I think. You know,
Speaker 1: people always ask the question. You know, Mickey will be
Speaker 1: at the Pizza New York Pizza Austa. They're hanging out
Speaker 1: and someone will come up and say, Mickey, give me
Speaker 1: a veteran cut. Give me a guy that might be
Speaker 1: a veteran cut. You might think of Noah Brown as
Speaker 1: maybe a veteran cut. You know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: with Tavon Austin could be a veteran cut. Philo being
Speaker 1: a veteran cut. Well, you know, Covington was a guy.
Speaker 1: Chris Covington was a guy that I was kind of thinking,
Speaker 1: oh wait, he started on the NFI list. That's not good.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like to me, the Rico gathers and
Speaker 1: the guys like that they're getting hurt. Then I'm signed saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: these guys are starting gonna cut themselves. We'll see if
Speaker 1: Rico comes back and does things. But least he was
Speaker 1: in his dress for this afternoon practice, right. He didn't
Speaker 1: do much, but he was out there there, tried to
Speaker 1: go through the individuals, right, So I'll give him credit
Speaker 1: for that. But if you're looking for a veteran cut,
Speaker 1: there you go. If you if he counts as a veteran, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and youre's a service of course. Yeah, he may be
Speaker 1: in trouble, all right. So Chris Covington the linebacker, where
Speaker 1: does he fit best at linebacker? Which which position? I
Speaker 1: think he could play the Sam I think that's really
Speaker 1: the idea. If you look at if you look at
Speaker 1: his you know, the size and how he's built all that.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are all kind of the same build.
Speaker 1: When you look at these linebacker they all got out
Speaker 1: of the car the same. I mean, they're all the same,
Speaker 1: the same looked, same height and stuff like. As far
Speaker 1: as the SAM linebacker in today's NFL compared to what
Speaker 1: it was in yesterday's NFL, you know, people talk about, well,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee, he doesn't have that those dimensions, the link
Speaker 1: maybe that you're looking for in the Sam linebacker from
Speaker 1: the old school. What are they looking for today in
Speaker 1: a Sam lineman. You know, that's a great question because
Speaker 1: back in the day, if you talk to Bill Parcels,
Speaker 1: he told you he drafted Bobby Carpenter to play the
Speaker 1: edge and to set the edge of old time school
Speaker 1: SAM linebacker was a guy that extended on the edge.
Speaker 1: Most teams being right handed, you set that edge and
Speaker 1: then you allow everybody else to get to the football.
Speaker 1: In this day and age, the sam linebacker kind of
Speaker 1: could be a guy that could kind of rush. You know,
Speaker 1: if you get a guy that's good enough to where
Speaker 1: he could play with his hands, he could he could
Speaker 1: force the run. But maybe you get him involved and
Speaker 1: some pass rush stuff. Actually, so it's the position is
Speaker 1: really involved from being a guy this this group has
Speaker 1: got guys that can cover. You put Sean Lee on
Speaker 1: the field and now you can run. See we saw
Speaker 1: did you see Jay? Did you get to see Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith in one on one yesterday? There was a neat
Speaker 1: little wrinkle that actually that that Kellen Moore had and
Speaker 1: he knew and it was a call out competitive situation.
Speaker 1: And you talk about linebackers that can cover and linebackers
Speaker 1: that it's not there at forte. Well, Jalen Smith got caught.
Speaker 1: To me, Jalen Smith attacking the pocket is the best thing.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith having a play in space and Carrie is
Speaker 1: not a great thing. So he gets caught in a
Speaker 1: situation where they go one on one and they take
Speaker 1: they take Tony Pollard and Dak Prescott sees it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know, okay, I see you in coverage. He walks in.
Speaker 1: He just says, go walk out there, and so you
Speaker 1: get Pollard in motion all the way to the outside
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. Now he's going to run the
Speaker 1: vertical route, and now you got j Jalen to catch up.
Speaker 1: And you know Dak missed the throw. But it was
Speaker 1: one of those things where you say, okay, I see
Speaker 1: why Now did you say Jalen Smith? And maybe like
Speaker 1: an old school line beast, sam linebacker, big bulky kind
Speaker 1: of guy, rush rush, rush, attack, don't be a guy
Speaker 1: that has to play in coverage all but you know
Speaker 1: what they're doing with that strong side linebacker. They're not
Speaker 1: playing him on the line of scrimmage right right, because
Speaker 1: he's got to take on the tight end right right right.
Speaker 1: They got Sean Lee off right, and and coven Eton
Speaker 1: can do the same and so and and Brian's right there.
Speaker 1: There was one a couple of plays where there was
Speaker 1: the weak side linebacker and the strong side linebacker both
Speaker 1: got in the coverage. The weak side guy took the
Speaker 1: running back, the strong side guy took the tight end right,
Speaker 1: and so they're playing not like the Singleton days. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not nineteen eighty four. Or you're gonna line up
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage and muscle. You play him
Speaker 1: off and you can protect him. That's right. Marinelli told me.
Speaker 1: I said, well, how do you protect you know, Sean
Speaker 1: he goes, Well, he doesn't have to be on the
Speaker 1: line of script. He can play off and we have
Speaker 1: ways of protecting him in a traditional sense. You want
Speaker 1: Sean Lee flowing to the ball, but you can do
Speaker 1: that more in the way this is set up now.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned pass rush. You like Jalen going forward.
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's one of the better rushing linebackers they have too,
Speaker 1: so he can he can rush as well. From that's
Speaker 1: Jaylen created a really nice opportunity. I think I talked
Speaker 1: about it a little bit for Carrie Hider to get
Speaker 1: home because of the power, the forward power that he
Speaker 1: was able to play with. You know, you mentioned Pollard
Speaker 1: going in motion. They spent I can't remember if it
Speaker 1: was yesterday or Tuesday they spent Sanjay Lyle must have
Speaker 1: spent fifteen minutes on the guys going in motion against
Speaker 1: air and making sure that when you hit your step
Speaker 1: where you're supposed to turn and be ready to go
Speaker 1: that you take off with the right foot, and he
Speaker 1: made guys come back one and no wrong foot? Wrong?
Speaker 1: What do you get doing wrong foot? You know? And
Speaker 1: and and you had to time it right too to
Speaker 1: get out to the exact wid you needed to go.
Speaker 1: And they went over it and over it and over
Speaker 1: it to try to get those guys in motion the
Speaker 1: time it up right and take off right too. And
Speaker 1: then they had to take four steps long steps and
Speaker 1: then break to the inside. That's how precise they were
Speaker 1: trying to work on those motion things. You're getting too
Speaker 1: feeling about anything about Randall Cobb. I mean to people
Speaker 1: have been kind of disappointed in Randall Cobb, and I
Speaker 1: guess it's because Twitter's shown video of it and stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way. I feel like Randall Cobb
Speaker 1: playing inside. I feel like the coverage on him has
Speaker 1: been really good. I mean, and you'd start talking about
Speaker 1: some of these guys if he was saying, oh, he's
Speaker 1: not separating the time he made several plays yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as he's been a part of some coverages where the
Speaker 1: ball has been knocked down. So I think in I
Speaker 1: think that's a product of what's going on in the second.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these guys that's to sit there
Speaker 1: and throw dirt on Randall Cobb because I know what
Speaker 1: he can do. I know what he can do in
Speaker 1: a game and stuff like that. But I feel like
Speaker 1: he's kind of being unfairly portrayed as a guy that
Speaker 1: all the Dak's problems, all the Dak's poor throws are
Speaker 1: going towards. Well, I've got I've got a message for
Speaker 1: the people that put the videos on there. You go
Speaker 1: watch the whole play. All you're doing is on one
Speaker 1: guy and you're following. That's where a lot of that
Speaker 1: comes from. And that's what's happening. Look at the whole play. Well,
Speaker 1: plus early on in camp, Okay, it's like it's like
Speaker 1: opening Day in baseball. They play one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: two games, but what they did on opening Day because
Speaker 1: everyone's got their eyeballs on it, you know, and early
Speaker 1: on in camp everyone because we're all so hungry to
Speaker 1: find out about these players and stuff. And then you're
Speaker 1: looking at these videos like what you're talking about get
Speaker 1: posted and okay, there's a you know, for instance, Dak
Speaker 1: and Cob aren't on the same page and and Dak
Speaker 1: talked about it and afterwards, well, I think with the
Speaker 1: NFL network, he said, yeah, I need to make sure
Speaker 1: that he cuts that off. Whatever it was, it was
Speaker 1: a hot exactly, but people see that and say, okay,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Cobb did an interview with the fan
Speaker 1: and he said it was a good interception. He goes
Speaker 1: because it was a great teaching point for me because
Speaker 1: he said when it was over, Dak goes up to
Speaker 1: Cobbin says, oh, my bad, bad throat, and Cobb goes, no,
Speaker 1: my fault. I should have cut it off, and he said,
Speaker 1: So we were able to sit down and say, okay,
Speaker 1: when they have that coverage on that play, here's what
Speaker 1: you gotta do, and one of them was cut it
Speaker 1: off or do not throw the ball there goes somewhere
Speaker 1: out and that is part of the process of training
Speaker 1: camp right there, finding out exactly where your quarterback likes you,
Speaker 1: your death or your routes, all those things. And two
Speaker 1: practices ago, that same practice where they had to pick
Speaker 1: for Xavier Woods, there was one play Brian and I
Speaker 1: were doing training Camp live. He had his receiver beat
Speaker 1: down the field in the end zone. And just couldn't
Speaker 1: quite come up with it. That is a dimension he
Speaker 1: brings that respectfully to Cole Beasley. It's not the same
Speaker 1: all the one at the back of the end. Yes,
Speaker 1: he just overthrew him just a little bit. That could
Speaker 1: have been very easily a touchdown. Yeah. And another thing
Speaker 1: you have to know about these practices, the first axiom
Speaker 1: of warfare is no the enemy. Yeah. I think Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods knew who the enemy was and if they were
Speaker 1: going to bring a slot blitz that they're probably gonna
Speaker 1: throw hot to that guy. That's great instincts, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's like, Okay, if you're gonna blitz,
Speaker 1: I have a feeling I know where this ball is
Speaker 1: gonna go to. You. Is a very positive thing about
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Speaker 1: Gil Brent goes into the Hall of Fame this weekend.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, the Jones family headed that way as the
Speaker 1: big weekend is here for them. Who won that Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game last night? I believed they came back
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Speaker 1: Lock he got the three lock. There you go, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, Terry Tiger, there you go, all right. Jerry
Speaker 1: talked to the media coming off to practice field yesterday. Mickey,
Speaker 1: you got a quick recap for us? Well, I think
Speaker 1: there was a couple of things. The first thing was
Speaker 1: when they are you worried you haven't got this done?
Speaker 1: Is drawn along, drawn out, and he kind of turned
Speaker 1: around and goes, when I haven't, When haven't I got
Speaker 1: this done? Meaning when has I have? I not got
Speaker 1: a player signed? And you know, I don't know. And
Speaker 1: when Emmett was out right ninety three, he was working
Speaker 1: a no contract, so if he missed games, he wasn't
Speaker 1: missing money, right, right, Zeke misses one game, it's two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four thousand dollars, right, thousand, Just a
Speaker 1: little bit I wanted. I wanted to make a very
Speaker 1: at of thousands, a lot of lettuce, right ye. And
Speaker 1: then the other thing when he was asked about, um,
Speaker 1: are you mad at Zeke? You've had his back and
Speaker 1: now it's kind of like he's turning his back on you,
Speaker 1: and he goes, No, he goes because you know, no
Speaker 1: matter what, at some point, you're gonna intersect with a
Speaker 1: divergent He used the word divergent, meaning we're gonna split apart. Right,
Speaker 1: he goes, And then afterwards you sit down and reconcile,
Speaker 1: and he goes, And I've got more patience now with
Speaker 1: these types of things. So he's not mad at him, right,
Speaker 1: and so his relationship with with Zeke will get the
Speaker 1: deal done. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. Lets you know what,
Speaker 1: probably just the way DeMarcus Lawrence got it done with
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. You know that they figured it out and
Speaker 1: got it done and um and he and he just
Speaker 1: didn't seem worried about it. You know, it was almost like,
Speaker 1: how many more of these questions you're gonna ask me?
Speaker 1: Because I'm not worried. I'm not worried that he's in Cabo,
Speaker 1: he said. I know Zeke. He's very conscientious and he's
Speaker 1: he will work out and be ready to come when
Speaker 1: we get this done. So all the handwringing, right, the
Speaker 1: cat doesn't die in the tree. Just remember my parable.
Speaker 1: M Okay, okay, how about periscope. Periscope wants to know
Speaker 1: as we've got to the first week of practice, how
Speaker 1: your pet cats doing? Thinking of cats and trees. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a nice little segue, Rob, how's yours still up
Speaker 1: in the tree? I've got like three I'll say. Lawrence
Speaker 1: Armstrong has been one of mine, absolutely, and I think
Speaker 1: he is taking advantage of these extra reps with Tank
Speaker 1: Lawrence still rehabbing from shoulder surgery. I'm anxious to see
Speaker 1: him in the games where he may get a start,
Speaker 1: may get to play a lot. Um the other side,
Speaker 1: John Vay Johnson, he's had some ups, he's had some downs.
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Gaiden is another guy who's playing well
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. But again with Alan Hearn's not on
Speaker 1: this roster anymore. They both got an opportule. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, Mickey,
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis, that's your guy. We got reminded that he
Speaker 1: was on the team and in that mini camp practice right,
Speaker 1: and then he doubled down at the end of the
Speaker 1: mini camp. And now he catches everything. You know, we
Speaker 1: always talk about how fast is yea And he'll outrun
Speaker 1: anybody if they have some sort of right he's out
Speaker 1: running him. But he catches everything, and some of them
Speaker 1: aren't just right perfect here he can contort his body
Speaker 1: and catch the ball. He's not very big, but I mean,
Speaker 1: what did he tell us from when we interviewed him
Speaker 1: that day. He's like a yeah, I think he said,
Speaker 1: oh I know what he said. He goes, yeah, one
Speaker 1: sixty eight, one seventy. I looked at him, I said
Speaker 1: We'll give you one seven soaking wet, you know, okay?
Speaker 1: And that was when did he say the ways in
Speaker 1: that mini camp? At the mini camp, Yeah, so listed
Speaker 1: it one eighty five. Yeah he ain't Maybe he said
Speaker 1: one seventy eight, one eighty and I said, I'll give
Speaker 1: you one eighty. Then he looks like me in fifth grade.
Speaker 1: It is, but he can run, he can run rong.
Speaker 1: How did he do anything on punt returns yesterday? Deal? Okay?
Speaker 1: Was catching him? Yeah, I'm just trying to think of
Speaker 1: ways he can help himself. And these punt these punt
Speaker 1: catches here are difficult because they always have the punter
Speaker 1: pun with the wind and you don't really realize the
Speaker 1: high up there. That winds blown about ten fifteen miles
Speaker 1: an hour and the ball carries. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: it's difficult to catch a left footed putter in the
Speaker 1: first place with no wind because his ball goes up
Speaker 1: and then it backs up and dies. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time he punted Chris Boniol. It would have been Bonial. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he told me he goes the Giants will fumble at
Speaker 1: least one or two of these punts, and sure enough
Speaker 1: they yes, because the ball it spins differently and then
Speaker 1: his backs up, So when you think you're there, you
Speaker 1: got to take another step because you're gonna miss it.
Speaker 1: But he did a pretty good job of catching him.
Speaker 1: If you got a pet cat on defense, a pet
Speaker 1: cat on defense, not off the top of mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jalen Joe because last year was Antoine Woods right right, Well,
Speaker 1: he's he's already. He ain't a pet, no mare, He's
Speaker 1: a starter. I'll take I'll take that. I'll take Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli's pet cat. Okay, who's Rod Marinelli's pet cat in
Speaker 1: this rookie class? Triston Hill. That would be Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever gone to a Cowboys
Speaker 1: camp where there has been less talk about the first
Speaker 1: draft pick of the Cowboys, I mean roster. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I might argue with you on who's the top of
Speaker 1: last year's vandersh didn't get a lot but but but
Speaker 1: Taco really didn't because it was Jalen Smith getting back.
Speaker 1: It was almost like Jalen was the first round pick
Speaker 1: coming back into camp. But go ahead. So maybe it's
Speaker 1: because Triston Hill after practice is laying low and people
Speaker 1: aren't not putting himself in which it can be a
Speaker 1: very smart thing. Okay, not putting himself in position to
Speaker 1: run into any mini camps. Right, Okay, what are you
Speaker 1: seeing from Triston Hill out here? I see a good play,
Speaker 1: I see a bad play. I see a good play,
Speaker 1: and I see a bad play. I think the consistency.
Speaker 1: The caboose is pretty fair nickname, and he knows that.
Speaker 1: He admits it. Now. I heard him on the radio
Speaker 1: talking about, Yeah, my nicknames the caboose, and so I
Speaker 1: got caught. He's caught on. He understands. And for those
Speaker 1: who who aren't familiar with the story behind that, it's
Speaker 1: the it's Rod Marinelli trains leaving right and you met
Speaker 1: are not getting left behind because right now you're the caboose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's the very last car on the train, and
Speaker 1: so he knows that, and so the the But what
Speaker 1: I need to see from him is more consistency, because
Speaker 1: they're like I said, there's there's been plays where he's
Speaker 1: been really good, you know, with the how active he is,
Speaker 1: he could play with a little violence. He's got some
Speaker 1: he's got some range to him. And then there's times
Speaker 1: where he's like, oh my gosh, I'm facing this guy
Speaker 1: and I'm just getting turned and washed and all that.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a lot of up and down
Speaker 1: for him. But he needs to develop a little bit
Speaker 1: more consistency. But the kid is fighting his ass off
Speaker 1: every single day. I mean even when he when he
Speaker 1: does get blocked. You can see it in the film afterwards.
Speaker 1: You can see that he knows what happened. He's starting
Speaker 1: to understand, Okay, I can't let I can't let Zach
Speaker 1: Martin do that to me. I can't let Tyrn Smith
Speaker 1: hook me like that. I can't I can't let Suephilo
Speaker 1: hook me like that, you know, saying so he understands.
Speaker 1: What do you think the hope is? Where? At what
Speaker 1: point this season will he be contributing? Oh, I think
Speaker 1: they're going to throw him in from the word go okay,
Speaker 1: so they'll throw him in. Well, what at what point?
Speaker 1: Being a rookie do you think it will It'll take
Speaker 1: some time as long as he Yeah, it might be.
Speaker 1: It might be the Dolphins game in one time. It's
Speaker 1: mid season. Think about Layton vanderess s. Marris didn't play
Speaker 1: the fourth fifth game, was the first pick in the
Speaker 1: draft and he was a rotation guy. And I don't
Speaker 1: think he started to like a game eight or nine
Speaker 1: his rookie year and they were deep. I get it,
Speaker 1: but and I don't know, they don't need him. They
Speaker 1: need him to hang in there for fifteen, eighteen, twenty plays.
Speaker 1: That's that's because you know, like when they did the
Speaker 1: one on one pass rush, when he goes and you
Speaker 1: go twice, right, and he'll win one and lose one. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know he got He's get the point where he's
Speaker 1: winning both. Yeah, and and sometimes he's not going up
Speaker 1: against the starters. He's against those he's against Sue Filo
Speaker 1: or somebody like that. He's got to beat those guys.
Speaker 1: I thought Taco practice better yesterday myself. If you talk
Speaker 1: about guys that kind of need to do a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I know, we dump a lot of dirt
Speaker 1: on him and and you know he brings it on himself.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd like to see him have that, right,
Speaker 1: But I thought he practiced better yesterday. The problem with
Speaker 1: Taco is he needs to stand his feet better. Still
Speaker 1: has problem with it. You know that Robert Quinn Quinn
Speaker 1: is yeah, absolute right, Quinn was better yesterday. But to me,
Speaker 1: going back to Taco. Taco wins on a rush and
Speaker 1: then he's on the ground and I'm going, man, just
Speaker 1: stand your feet, you can make that play. It's almost
Speaker 1: like these defensive ends are playing on the edges of
Speaker 1: their shoes, you know, and they're just and they're hitting
Speaker 1: this grass and they're not getting to where they need
Speaker 1: to go. You know what they need, don't you. Those
Speaker 1: two inch mudders that we played football with fifty years
Speaker 1: steal spike, spot built. They're working Tacco at both end spots. Right,
Speaker 1: he's seeing anything from him flipping to the left side.
Speaker 1: It's not anything I mean to me, it's still about
Speaker 1: you know. You watch him go through the bags and
Speaker 1: he's like and you know, I was talking with everybody,
Speaker 1: Steven Thomas sitting there, and I go, Geary's gonna spin
Speaker 1: an a shirt bump, sp spin, spin, you know he does.
Speaker 1: He just hasn't developed the ability to just separate himself
Speaker 1: on a rush without spinning or you know, if it
Speaker 1: works once or quite great. But these guys who figure
Speaker 1: out how to play him just keeping wide, keeping wide keeping,
Speaker 1: why he's gonna spin, He's gonna spin back to you
Speaker 1: and him. Yeah, when he gets frustrated too. He just
Speaker 1: tries to bull rush and Tacco can't bull rush. That's
Speaker 1: not He's not MALIEK. Collins, He's not the human log logs.
Speaker 1: When they get in trouble, they will just power you
Speaker 1: into the quarterback. Yeah, but Taco, you know, Tyrn Smith
Speaker 1: is not gonna have any of that. Lyo Collins is
Speaker 1: not gonna have any of that. And I can't remember
Speaker 1: who told me. I don't know if it was DeMarcus,
Speaker 1: where it was somebody. It was a veteran guy, and
Speaker 1: they were saying, what he's got to learn is that
Speaker 1: spin move is no good unless you get into the
Speaker 1: guy right. He goes. If you start spinning from afar,
Speaker 1: all you're gonna do is they're gonna catch you. He'll
Speaker 1: spin right into right. So you gotta have the power
Speaker 1: at least to get into the guy and then spin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Taco's biggest problem is that lineman can affect him by
Speaker 1: stopping his feet. That's the the Taco's feet never he
Speaker 1: never gets any type of momentum to get a rush,
Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden he rushes, He's in
Speaker 1: good shape, and then his feet stopped, and now he's
Speaker 1: got to restart, but at that time the ball is
Speaker 1: gone or he's got washed or you know. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's really it's frustrating to watch him and not coming
Speaker 1: down of Michigan. He you know, he wasn't this dynamic
Speaker 1: make pass rush. I mean that that big ten is
Speaker 1: known for some of those pass rushers, a lot of
Speaker 1: them there at Ohio State. Michigan had one, you know
Speaker 1: here recently, but I mean they just don't. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's hard for him to do what he needs to do.
Speaker 1: And again it's it's it's I hope that he could
Speaker 1: stay healthy. He's fighting through some things. I could tell
Speaker 1: you know, there's times after plays his body language is
Speaker 1: kind of bad. But he's fighting through those things. He
Speaker 1: just needed to kind of care on. I want to
Speaker 1: ask one more question. I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: your pet cat. Oh. It's like Christian Covington is my
Speaker 1: guy that I've kind of been watching, I've been talking about.
Speaker 1: I really like, I was really thought that if you
Speaker 1: talk about a player, I thought it would have a
Speaker 1: huge year. Xavier Woods was my huge year and then
Speaker 1: huge huge year guy and then but Christian Covington is
Speaker 1: a guy that I came out of he didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to participate in the OTAs and stuff. He
Speaker 1: had a sack in the two minute drill the other day.
Speaker 1: But he okay, he he beats Whitesman the guard. But
Speaker 1: but Whiteman's Whitesman's been. He's been. He's been good. I mean,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been terrible. It's not like he gets beat
Speaker 1: every single play. So I felt like though he had
Speaker 1: a nice rush yesterday, got off the ball well, affected
Speaker 1: the pocket a little bit better like what I'm seeing
Speaker 1: for him. Liked how he chases the ball too. He's
Speaker 1: bought into the Marinelli balls down the field, rush, get
Speaker 1: down the field, hustle, hustle, hustle, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I think those kinds of things pay off for him
Speaker 1: as well. You know, let's get to your periscope after
Speaker 1: this break that, after that playing that nose tackle position,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't get in and get a sack. But
Speaker 1: he's pushing the poets. He did for JJ Watt did
Speaker 1: a lot of the dirty word and he doesn't win
Speaker 1: and ends up five ten yards behind the question. He's
Speaker 1: got some power, he's square. He'll help these guys with
Speaker 1: some play. Fun fact you know whose dad is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know him. I didn't know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Grover Covington played in the CFL a long time. It's
Speaker 1: just interesting. He's been around football his whole life. He
Speaker 1: was an unheralded guy for the Texans. Yeah, so he
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Speaker 1: looking forward to that usually lunchtime, Periscope would like to
Speaker 1: know from you, gentlemen, what excites you guys the most
Speaker 1: about this team's potential Kellen Moore or defensive growth. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say offensive growth. Okay, well so that would
Speaker 1: be Kellen Moore. Well, I don't think it's because of him, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that's because of Let's flip it. Then let's
Speaker 1: flip it, say say offensive growth or defensive growth. You're
Speaker 1: gonna see growth in Connor Williams. Okay. You've got Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick who had a much better day yesterday than he
Speaker 1: did his first day. I absolutely he was more in
Speaker 1: sync of what was going on. Michael Gallops in his
Speaker 1: second year. We saw what he did the end of
Speaker 1: his first year. I think Randall Cobb will be just fine.
Speaker 1: You've got now, regardless of what Witten does. You've got
Speaker 1: two tight ends who've actually played in the league this year.
Speaker 1: Last year they played, they hadn't played before. Dak gets
Speaker 1: another year and Amari Cooper happens to be here for
Speaker 1: the whole season. So if he does you a whole
Speaker 1: season what he did in a half season, this growth
Speaker 1: of this offense could be huge. Go ahead, Bright, no
Speaker 1: killing Moore. There's still an unknown there, you know. I
Speaker 1: think you may have to get into the games, and
Speaker 1: because they're not showing everything, see what happens in the games.
Speaker 1: And look, Zeke's not here either, so that's there's still
Speaker 1: some unknown factor. I'll go with the defense because I
Speaker 1: think we talked about the D line, Covington, Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: They've taken some steps to fortify some things inside. Maliek
Speaker 1: Collins hopefully healthy. You know, Layton Vanderesh and Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: should only get better. I'm excited about Xavier Woods potentially
Speaker 1: is more of a force back there, maybe some more
Speaker 1: takeaways in the secondary. They have a lot of young
Speaker 1: pieces kind of would make you sad on the offensive
Speaker 1: side that should get better. A Woozia, you can just
Speaker 1: go down the list. Defense excites me. Bill Jones, I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm going. I like what you're saying, Nicky, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the defense and the secondary or
Speaker 1: special Yeah, I mean what we were talking about earlier
Speaker 1: in the show. These guys like Anthony Brown and Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis what he's shown all offseason. But I think Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods it can be a real force in the secondary,
Speaker 1: I think, and I give Brian credit for picking him
Speaker 1: out out of Louisiana Tech right from the get go
Speaker 1: in that draft year, and then I think Cheeto, I think,
Speaker 1: and one of the things on Cheeto we were talking
Speaker 1: to him yesterday for guys like him, and there are
Speaker 1: numerous others that are now like third year or even
Speaker 1: with the tight ends in their second year where this
Speaker 1: you go across the board and Michael Gallop going into
Speaker 1: his second year across the board, it was probably last
Speaker 1: year too much to expect for a lot of those
Speaker 1: guys in their first time really playing to do what
Speaker 1: they did. Okay, now though, since they've got that year
Speaker 1: of experience under their belt, you know, Layton vander esh too,
Speaker 1: you know, you can see growth there, and so I
Speaker 1: just think I think there's there's potential these young players
Speaker 1: on defense for growth. I like what everybody's saying here.
Speaker 1: Who did you even mention Robert Quinn? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: factoring in the pass for us to a proven guy.
Speaker 1: Well like, I like it, man. I think you guys
Speaker 1: have got this thing nailed really Ado. Another question is
Speaker 1: are they more likely to keep four tight ends or
Speaker 1: six wide receivers? Oh, that's easy. I think probably. I
Speaker 1: think there's more. There's a lot of young talent at receiver.
Speaker 1: I would lean towards six receivers. I second the motion. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean if you're also keeping a full back, so
Speaker 1: Brod so there you go. That helps on the tight
Speaker 1: end situation. By the way, has been getting used a
Speaker 1: lot more. Yeah, when they were when they were doing
Speaker 1: some of their I think it was Nickel offense, or
Speaker 1: maybe it was two minute they had him as loan
Speaker 1: backback there. They'd like his blitz pickup. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Pollard did nice job on one of those team fields.
Speaker 1: And they were using them out in the motion. They
Speaker 1: were motionating them out, they were sending them into the formation,
Speaker 1: into the past patterns. Uh. It was almost like they
Speaker 1: were trying to use them a lot more. First guy
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore mentioned in the otre not Zeke. I'll add
Speaker 1: to that, okay, that sky war office more likely six
Speaker 1: wide receivers, four tight ends or two quarterbacks. I two quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Is I think that's too anyway you're going. I think
Speaker 1: it's yeah, two quarter quarterbacks, two quarters, regardless if it's
Speaker 1: six or four. Yeah, man, the two quarterbacks allow them
Speaker 1: to keep four tight ends in six wides. Why would
Speaker 1: you why would you keep four four tight ends. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think I've I've moved on from
Speaker 1: the Rico experiment. I've moved on from that. I did
Speaker 1: the best I could, you know, I tried to give
Speaker 1: And now if I want to keep them forward tight end,
Speaker 1: maybe there's one playing for the Denver Broncos of the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers or somebody like that that I feel
Speaker 1: a little bit better about. Yeah, I got squad. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, do you want to keep Cody you
Speaker 1: practice squad and then sure, sure, But I mean, if
Speaker 1: you want a great story, he is, by the way,
Speaker 1: which you want have time to get into right now.
Speaker 1: Do you see them really given up on Mike White
Speaker 1: though as a fifth round pick? Or is that am
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I feel like I just
Speaker 1: feel like he's not getting that many snaps he's he's
Speaker 1: he made we made a really good throw if you
Speaker 1: know the team, after he got sacked, he made a
Speaker 1: really good throw down the middle of the field to
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz to get him in field goal range. And
Speaker 1: the clock was running and he spiked it and I
Speaker 1: remember looking at Bucky like did the time run out
Speaker 1: or you know, But Yeah, it was a good It
Speaker 1: was a nice blind back shoulder basically throw to Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: and I hadn't seen him make one like that. I
Speaker 1: get frustrated with Mike White because I saw him play
Speaker 1: so much better at Western Kentucky. I asked Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: about the things. Hey, kind of teach us what to
Speaker 1: look for when we're you know, you know, in and
Speaker 1: out of the huddle, leadership, moving guys around, completing the play,
Speaker 1: all these things, and it seems like that Mike White
Speaker 1: is always lacking one of the things I need him
Speaker 1: to do in order to kind of quiet. That's okay.
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is quiet, yeah, but not I don't want
Speaker 1: him quiet. Cooper Rush making better throws. Yeah, that's just
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Yeah. Yeah, So if you told me
Speaker 1: if they were going to go with two quarterbacks, Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush and Dak Prescott are your two quarterbacks right now.
Speaker 1: If you just want to go off what we've seen
Speaker 1: out here at practice, well, the other thing you can
Speaker 1: do is Mike White practice squad. Yeah yeah, maybe somebody else.
Speaker 1: Will somebody else say, you know, we had a pretty
Speaker 1: good grade on Mike White. Let's give him an opportunity
Speaker 1: and he might be the situation where he didn't want
Speaker 1: to be on the practice squad here. You know, someone
Speaker 1: maybe go somewhere else to be on the practice squad,
Speaker 1: and you know the games he may, he may. That's
Speaker 1: that we're saying about that number four twenty sixteen at
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah you have another one. Uh no, okay,
Speaker 1: good with that one thing. Two minute warning goes to
Speaker 1: both benches. Now. One thing Jerry talked about also yesterday
Speaker 1: was Alfred Morris, and I think he basically confirmed what
Speaker 1: you were saying that that was the that was the
Speaker 1: other option. That was his plan, the plan, and and
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it this morning that even if
Speaker 1: you look beyond let's say Zeke comes back, which he will,
Speaker 1: but from an injury standpoint, all right, we love seeing
Speaker 1: the development of young running backs, yes we do. But
Speaker 1: I think it was important to get a veteran like
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris in here just to have the insurance, just
Speaker 1: to have in case of injury. And they felt that
Speaker 1: somebody else might go get him. Yeah, yeah, they'll sit
Speaker 1: down and watch because we aren't sure even though we
Speaker 1: as as media, as fans, whatever, we're looking at young
Speaker 1: guys saying okay, we kind of at this point you
Speaker 1: kind of see what their potential could be. You want
Speaker 1: to see that potential. And the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: it's tough playing even though the running back is a
Speaker 1: position where you can come in, It's tough for a
Speaker 1: seventh rounder. It's tough for a fourth rounder to come
Speaker 1: in here. And a lot of them why, whether it's
Speaker 1: blitz pickups whatever, for them to really be a guy
Speaker 1: that you're depending on this first year, or it's tough
Speaker 1: on a guy that spent the year on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: Don't go to sleep. But Jordan Shutting, Yeah, his name
Speaker 1: has been popping up around here too. Don't go to
Speaker 1: sleep on him. They like him, yep. And that Darius
Speaker 1: Jackson those well you see him. Do you see him
Speaker 1: knock a woozier on that they run? They run that
Speaker 1: crack toss? Yea. And by the way, you see who
Speaker 1: was the point of attack player at the crack toss?
Speaker 1: It was your fourteen million dollars receiver blocking Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, so he hats off.
Speaker 1: Give him a helmet sticker for that block he got
Speaker 1: right there? Was that the one on the sideline? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the one that Heath came up. No, it was
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods. Excuse me, it's a Woozier. No Woozier. But
Speaker 1: then after it was over, Heath came up and got
Speaker 1: into it, like, okay, so we're gonna get physical at
Speaker 1: practice today. Sure, I think we're gonna get on the
Speaker 1: goal line. We're gonna get physical. We're gonna go live.
Speaker 1: Can we go live on Go go live on goal line.
Speaker 1: We'll be there writing about and talk to me right
Speaker 1: on the goal line. He day is the day to
Speaker 1: do it right. Training camp Live. Take goal line today, Today, today,
Speaker 1: and I'm asking for the Friday before the Blue White
Speaker 1: scrimmage has been a day where they go live right.
Speaker 1: Sure day Jason's press conference line today. You may not
Speaker 1: want to tip off the opposition. It's Mickey's day on
Speaker 1: training Camp Live. So we go goal line. You get
Speaker 1: to hear the room at it. That's what we'll look
Speaker 1: forward to and we will talk at you again tomorrow.
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