WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Defense or Moore? 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:21.239 This he's Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:33.360 Camp in Oxnard, California. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian froms 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:39.440 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones and Happy Friday from Oxnard, 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:44.240 California and talking Cowboys as we kick off your big 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:49.640 football weekend. We've got a big football weekend here in Oxnard, California. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.000 And inn't that a great thing to talk about as 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.840 we get started here, so much to get to Jerry 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.840 Jones talk to the media for a little bit coming 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.160 off to practice field yesterday. We'll get into some of 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.760 the things that he talked abound over the course of 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.319 the next hour here, and we lead you up to 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.200 the annual Blue White Scrimmage on Sunday, which will be 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.160 broadcast right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com and on 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.000 Texas twenty one in Dallas four or six o'clock Central time, 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.360 four o'clock here on the Pacific coast. And what a 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.280 glorious morning it is here in Oxnard. Absolutely and then 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.880 it's uh, you know, like you said, working into the weekend. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.200 We had a nice practice yesterday we could talk about. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.039 We got our periscope up and going. Mickey, you can 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.640 be any happier right now? Could you? This is just lovely. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.520 I woke up this morning. It was fifty nine degrees 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.319 when I went out there work out, and I think 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.800 it's warming up one definitely, it's it's warmer today than 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.160 it was yesterday. I haven't checked the temperature right now. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.440 I think Brad Chad and told me the high today 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.200 is projected to be seventy eight. Oh my, hot one. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.280 We'll take that. Yeah, Dallas Fort Worth, you hear that 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.680 it's gonna be hot time. It's not rubb it in, No, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:05.280 we won't. And it is sixty three degrees right now. Yeah. Yeah. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.840 And uh back in at NT Stadium right now, it's 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.840 ninety degrees. Rob, how are you doing this morning? I'm 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.839 doing fantastic building. I can't. Yeah, I missed a little 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.120 bit of the practice yesterday. But you know, Dave hellman 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.560 is is right there with the tweets, the VIDs. Yeah, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.040 we got great coverage on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.600 ready for another one to day kicking things off talking 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.760 about that. Uh, there's some great stuff out there right now. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.239 They got posted yesterday or last night. Uh. One is 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.000 the process. I love the video. It's a nine minute 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.800 video the process, which uh, but it sounds like it's 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.160 going to be a week to week a weekly thing 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.600 that I know Chris Beam is a part of producing, 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:48.200 and Caden Gates. Uh. And um, but it was they 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.280 followed Gary Brown from his home getting on the team charter. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.080 I mean it was. I just sat there in my 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.880 hotel room and watched that. It was. Uh. I just 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:02.120 thought that that is a terriffic thing that the new 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.120 media can produce now the old traditional, our old school, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.840 not you rob so much, but where we used totally 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.920 have four TV stations to watch and so forth, and 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.880 the options were so limited. This is what digital media 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.280 is all about, people to do that kind of stuff. Uh. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.799 And then I love the Dak thing what he did 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.720 with us on the car wash yesterday. You guys, the 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.040 Dak drinking game. You got to check that out on 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.440 social media or I assume it's also posted on Dallas 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.440 Cowboys dot com. I haven't been able to check the 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:38.880 website yet, but um, it was really funny. Uh. And 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.480 I was first to go on the interview. Did you 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.240 were you in on the gag? No? Not before? Oh yeah, no, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.880 not at all. The reaction was funny. Your first question, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.760 and then he takes a sip and you're kind of 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.400 like looking at him, and then he keeps taking SIPs 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.920 and you feared something was going on. Well, I let 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.440 into the question, which wasn't you don't see on that? 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.720 My my first question to Dak was what I was 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.320 in press Moore than anything with this first interview with 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.520 the media out here was the fact that apparently he 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.440 watches Jerry Jones press conference. Sure, and because he had 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.280 that same reaction when a contract question came up, what 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.480 was out I didn't hear you, you know? And so 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.840 he talked about that at first, and that led me 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.040 into asking the question, so along those lines, do you 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.479 need a rushing champion to win a Super Bowl? And 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.599 he was right? So he took this big old along 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.240 drink drink of his Statorade. So do you want to 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.200 pull the curtain back and tell what he did then? 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:41.800 And so the next question I asked was about Jerry. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.279 If you and Jerry just got together for five minutes, 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.880 you could hammer out a contract. Long swig again, so 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.880 I asked about Zeke and I asked about the contract. Okay, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.599 finished a bottle Gatorade on Those are the only times 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.240 that he took a long swig, all right. Next up 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.960 was Dale Hands and he asked probably a Zeke and 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.680 he was doing the same thing, and that's where okay, yeah, yeah, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.800 something's up here. And they're not like subtle swigs. These 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.960 are these a big yeah yeah, which which I love. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.640 I love the comedic timing of it. It was was perfect, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.240 But it just says so much about what Dak is like. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.160 You know, Nui Scruggs was next, and I don't even 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.040 I don't think he asked about Zeke or the contract, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.440 but then Doucy. Doucy had figured it out by the 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.719 time he got up sure, In fact, we had talked 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.000 about it before he got up to be ready. Actually, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.000 his was funny because he was going to ask the 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.040 question and then he figured out, Okay, every time there's 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.559 a question about a contracts he didn't. He didn't figure 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.240 out in the course of the interview. He knew going 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.480 into that, you know, I'm saying he did, yeah before 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.480 he went in, So he was getting ready to ask 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:52.000 the contract question. He goes, okay, take a swig the 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.919 preemptive strike, and then Dak said, whoever off camera, I 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.440 know who it is, but I'm not gonna say um 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:04.839 that I think they're onto our game, so but I 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.840 mean it's just and then the way Dak handles all 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:12.000 the questions and everything, he's just what you want leading 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.640 your football team. You know, just the way he handles everything. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.720 He just the pressure and all the stuff, it just 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.039 doesn't it doesn't phase him. And it's kind of you 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.000 can use that as lip service with some guys, but 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.440 I really believe it with him. Yeah, and he's you know, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.080 he's twenty six years old. You know, I think what 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.360 I was like when I was twenty six. And aside 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.280 from that, because those interviews they're nothing, okay, but it's 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.480 out here on the football field and how he leads 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.920 this team and how he engages in everybody on the team. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.279 You know, when they're going to drills and they're getting 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.000 started and he's high five and everybody. He doesn't care 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:47.360 whether you're a well he's not here now, but if 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.080 you're the Pro Bowl running back or the fifth string 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.200 running back, he engages you into the team because he 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.000 knows what team is all about. Kind Of had a 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.640 rough day yesterday, throwing him the two minute drill late 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.440 in the two minute Yeah, it kind of reversed because 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.760 I thought the previous practice the offense sort of dominated. Yeah, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.119 that's what we're talking about that Jason Garrett was saying, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.560 if you have an offense that plays well one day, 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.640 defense not so good, but then it flips, then you 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.880 know your team's doing all right. You don't want one 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.760 side of the ball just completely dominant. I thought Dak 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.320 was not as good as he needed to be in 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.720 that two minute drill yesterday watching him throw that ball. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.640 I mean, but coverage was good. They got some pressure. Uh. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.960 You know that those guys in the secondary, those guys 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.960 in the secondary are starting to show up a little 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.720 bit more. I really am impressed, you know with what 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.560 I've seen with Anthony Brown at about there. You know, 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.280 we talked about Jordan Lewis and what he's done, Xavier 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.440 Woods playing as a safety. So that might have to 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.920 be more about those guys affecting Dak than than really 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.720 Dak having a bad day. But he was off on 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.720 some of his throws yesterday that I thought he was. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.160 He's been completing through some of these products. You seeing 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.119 some of it that they're not on the same page 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.320 with with It's not the same page it's just guys 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.160 doing a really good job some tight window throws. If 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.720 you remember the compete period, he throws the ball over 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.920 the top of Witton. You know, with Xavier Woods covernment, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.000 Xavier Woods is fighting his rear off to stay. That 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.400 used to be the Byron Jones drill. Byron him and 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.600 Byron Jones used to go at it when they used 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.560 to heat and Witton would go and they did. And 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.920 Byron Jones, as I remember one time, Byron Zoe get 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.520 back in the huddle, old man. I mean, he waved 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.080 his finger at him and told him that. And but 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.680 now it's Xavier Woods. And you see, Xavier Woods is 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.680 a good enough athlete, but boy, he's a shorter guy. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.439 So he's it's like he's shooting tennis balls off a tank. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.040 You know, he's kind of banging, banging with him. But 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.320 he didn't give Dak a window. Dak tried to throw 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.640 it over the top. And so you're seeing some throws 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.559 he's having to make that are a little bit more difficult. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.079 I'm not looking at some of the interceptions and stuff 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.040 like that. I think those are good plays. I'm looking 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.319 at some of those tight window throws you might saw 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.160 tune the compete period with Anthony Brown. When what he did, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.920 they tried to get to Gallop inside and I mean 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.240 he was on him and as soon as he've made 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.440 that break, there was Anthony Brown offhand knocked the ball down. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.160 So you know, if Good's going against Good and Goods 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.120 trying to get the ball to Good and it's not work, 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.880 I mean, that's that's part of the good things you 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.640 get to see silently. Anthony Brown has had a really 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.960 good Yeah, he really has. Yeah, you know, and they 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.000 kind of switched it up the other day because he 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.920 had been, uh starting out on the right corner with 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.920 the first team and then when they went to nickel 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.679 he'd come inside right and Jordan Lewis was just go outside. Well, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.760 that previous practice before the day off, they started with 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.920 Jordan Lewis on the outside and then when Anthony Brown 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.360 came in, he just went in into the slot. And 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.800 they changed it up a little bit, but they went 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:42.360 back to that normal rotation with Anthony outside. So, uh, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.280 he's been pretty darn good and you know this is 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.800 a contract drive season for him too. And Mollie Collins, right, 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.280 you watched Millie Collins in the one on fast. Yeah. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:56.400 I was watching him do the standing bag drilled down 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.680 there with the block and dummies and him going through 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.120 in and out the four little power man. He's quick, 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.640 is speaking a quick You're still seeing Dorans I'm strong 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.520 to show that quickness in the pass rush. One other 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.800 thing about the corner situation, Jordan Lewis, he had a 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.320 handful of pass breakups and in the various drills yesterday, 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.360 he's just once again he's in a spot where you 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.000 know Byron's out right now, he'll be back, and you 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.160 know he's looking at third fourth corner again as well 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.760 as Anthony Brown's playing. That's you know he's on track 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.720 to keep that Nickel job. Yet whatever Chris Westery, did 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.240 you know he had some personal business he took care of, 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.720 came back, he jumped right back in. Had a couple 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.760 of nice plays too. I think overall, just the secondary, 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.440 you know, the receivers were seeing some good looks. You know, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.960 John Vay Johnson unfortunately had a ball go off his 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.600 hands that he had on the sideline. I mean Cooper 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.640 Rush in the two minute drill hit him with a 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.200 good pass. But man, did you see the play that 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.480 March Lillard made. I mean he comes from march low 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.680 to the simple zone drop and he goes, he reads 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.520 and all of a sudden, the balls I mean it's 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.120 it's falling, falling, falling, and he just one hand scoops 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.240 it and that tipped. Yeah, well no it got so 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.719 it went off john Bay Johnson's hand right, and he 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.679 scoops the ball as it's going to the earth and 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.040 able to roll over and make the play and get 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:17.280 the second offense off the field. So love the tower. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.960 It's not often that those guys getting mean throwing it 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.480 up to Jerry. Yeah. The drills are all kind of 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.360 conducive to offense, moving, moving, moving, and then you know, 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.440 but that was that was a great point. You know. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.880 Another thing I noticed when they were doing the walks 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:39.120 or the special teams and they were practicing kickoff uh coverage. Uh. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:43.520 Both Armstrong and Covington were out there right, the linebacker 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.760 Covington right. Uh. And and so you noticed that, Okay, 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.120 they still think these guys are going to make the team. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.240 And then there was another guy out there that seems 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.800 to be coming on out of nowhere, Luke Gifford. There 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.920 you go. He was the only young guy on that 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.200 kickoff coverage team. Everybody else had been on the team before, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.160 but he's been moving up and now he's on the 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.760 second with Sean Lee not practicing, Joe Thomas going to 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.200 the first team, Gifford's on the second team right now. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.520 So we got a mail back question about that Sam 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.720 spot this morning, and you know it was a fair 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.320 question because with Sean out, is there somebody in the 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.680 Kyle Wilbur realm that could when he was here, that 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.920 could moonlight between hand on the ground to a stand 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.000 up SAM position. And Brian pointed out the depth there 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.280 is better than you might think because of Gifford, and 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.040 you mentioned Covingtons. See, people don't know Gifford yet. Mickey, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.360 did you guys a favor out there by talking about 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.720 Amber Garcia said the same thing in in during Training 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.079 Camp Live yesterday, Hey keep an eye on this number 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.680 fifty seven. She noticed the same thing that Mickey had, 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.440 that he's getting involved in some of the special team 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.000 stuff every morning. David Hellman and I come out here 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.760 and walk or run on this field, and Luke Gifford's 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.920 out here by himself working on Kickslide, Kickslide. Henry Schroke 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.000 of the pro scout is also out here running and 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.160 Henry walked by him one day and goes, keep keep working. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.240 That's that's what you got to do. Keep working on that. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.360 So he's got that kind of temperament. And University Nebraska 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.920 played as an outside really as an outside linebacker, but 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.319 now playing more inside. A matter of fact, with scouts, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.040 scout's eye goes up later today, he's my eighth point 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.319 to keep an eye on. Good eye by Mickey though 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.640 to notice Satisfy six three two five pounds link in 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.720 Nebraska was a high school quarterback as a matter of fact, 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.800 and played basketball, so he's an athletic guy, absolutely, And 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.160 uh so keep an eye on fifty seven Luke Gifford 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.600 out of Nebraska, the rookie undrafted free agent. And that's 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:39.720 what you get from Bill's scouting report there for for 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.160 the free season scrimmage, I should say, yeah, there, you 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.760 gotta make a few tackles. This guy'll make a few tackles. Bill, 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.760 we'll talk about him probably a lot more. We'll see, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.480 we'll see what this linebacker again. I think that you know, 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.280 it's nice to Covington's back, but I kind of had 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.440 coming to as a bubble player. Yeah, I think. You know, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.200 people always ask the question. You know, Mickey will be 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.880 at the Pizza New York Pizza Austa. They're hanging out 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.400 and someone will come up and say, Mickey, give me 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.760 a veteran cut. Give me a guy that might be 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.679 a veteran cut. You might think of Noah Brown as 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.360 maybe a veteran cut. You know what's going to happen 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.959 with Tavon Austin could be a veteran cut. Philo being 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.880 a veteran cut. Well, you know, Covington was a guy. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.960 Chris Covington was a guy that I was kind of thinking, 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.560 oh wait, he started on the NFI list. That's not good. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.600 It's kind of like to me, the Rico gathers and 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.880 the guys like that they're getting hurt. Then I'm signed saying, Okay, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.320 these guys are starting gonna cut themselves. We'll see if 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.600 Rico comes back and does things. But least he was 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.000 in his dress for this afternoon practice, right. He didn't 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.240 do much, but he was out there there, tried to 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.000 go through the individuals, right, So I'll give him credit 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.000 for that. But if you're looking for a veteran cut, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.600 there you go. If you if he counts as a veteran, yeah, yeah, 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.880 and youre's a service of course. Yeah, he may be 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.320 in trouble, all right. So Chris Covington the linebacker, where 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.560 does he fit best at linebacker? Which which position? I 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.640 think he could play the Sam I think that's really 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.480 the idea. If you look at if you look at 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.400 his you know, the size and how he's built all that. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.480 I mean, these guys are all kind of the same build. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.440 When you look at these linebacker they all got out 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.320 of the car the same. I mean, they're all the same, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.400 the same looked, same height and stuff like. As far 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.120 as the SAM linebacker in today's NFL compared to what 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.400 it was in yesterday's NFL, you know, people talk about, well, 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.800 Sean Lee, he doesn't have that those dimensions, the link 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.240 maybe that you're looking for in the Sam linebacker from 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.800 the old school. What are they looking for today in 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.640 a Sam lineman. You know, that's a great question because 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.840 back in the day, if you talk to Bill Parcels, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.760 he told you he drafted Bobby Carpenter to play the 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.720 edge and to set the edge of old time school 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.120 SAM linebacker was a guy that extended on the edge. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.920 Most teams being right handed, you set that edge and 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.360 then you allow everybody else to get to the football. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.960 In this day and age, the sam linebacker kind of 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:52.840 could be a guy that could kind of rush. You know, 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.720 if you get a guy that's good enough to where 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.560 he could play with his hands, he could he could 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.120 force the run. But maybe you get him involved and 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.520 some pass rush stuff. Actually, so it's the position is 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.760 really involved from being a guy this this group has 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.240 got guys that can cover. You put Sean Lee on 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.440 the field and now you can run. See we saw 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.240 did you see Jay? Did you get to see Jalen 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.640 Smith in one on one yesterday? There was a neat 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.640 little wrinkle that actually that that Kellen Moore had and 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.760 he knew and it was a call out competitive situation. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.320 And you talk about linebackers that can cover and linebackers 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.440 that it's not there at forte. Well, Jalen Smith got caught. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.560 To me, Jalen Smith attacking the pocket is the best thing. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.320 Jalen Smith having a play in space and Carrie is 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.520 not a great thing. So he gets caught in a 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.080 situation where they go one on one and they take 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.760 they take Tony Pollard and Dak Prescott sees it. Okay, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.080 I know, okay, I see you in coverage. He walks in. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.520 He just says, go walk out there, and so you 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.840 get Pollard in motion all the way to the outside 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:55.400 as a wide receiver. Now he's going to run the 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:00.760 vertical route, and now you got j Jalen to catch up. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.400 And you know Dak missed the throw. But it was 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.359 one of those things where you say, okay, I see 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.040 why Now did you say Jalen Smith? And maybe like 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.719 an old school line beast, sam linebacker, big bulky kind 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.400 of guy, rush rush, rush, attack, don't be a guy 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.639 that has to play in coverage all but you know 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.119 what they're doing with that strong side linebacker. They're not 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.520 playing him on the line of scrimmage right right, because 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.200 he's got to take on the tight end right right right. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.119 They got Sean Lee off right, and and coven Eton 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:33.119 can do the same and so and and Brian's right there. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.680 There was one a couple of plays where there was 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.040 the weak side linebacker and the strong side linebacker both 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.119 got in the coverage. The weak side guy took the 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.880 running back, the strong side guy took the tight end right, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.560 and so they're playing not like the Singleton days. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.040 it's not nineteen eighty four. Or you're gonna line up 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.520 on the line of scrimmage and muscle. You play him 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.320 off and you can protect him. That's right. Marinelli told me. 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.800 I said, well, how do you protect you know, Sean 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.439 he goes, Well, he doesn't have to be on the 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.840 line of script. He can play off and we have 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.360 ways of protecting him in a traditional sense. You want 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.840 Sean Lee flowing to the ball, but you can do 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.400 that more in the way this is set up now. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.040 And you mentioned pass rush. You like Jalen going forward. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.600 Sean Lee's one of the better rushing linebackers they have too, 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.360 so he can he can rush as well. From that's 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.400 Jaylen created a really nice opportunity. I think I talked 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.600 about it a little bit for Carrie Hider to get 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.000 home because of the power, the forward power that he 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.160 was able to play with. You know, you mentioned Pollard 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.560 going in motion. They spent I can't remember if it 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:33.879 was yesterday or Tuesday they spent Sanjay Lyle must have 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:39.359 spent fifteen minutes on the guys going in motion against 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.960 air and making sure that when you hit your step 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.800 where you're supposed to turn and be ready to go 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.560 that you take off with the right foot, and he 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.520 made guys come back one and no wrong foot? Wrong? 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.639 What do you get doing wrong foot? You know? And 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:55.760 and and you had to time it right too to 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.760 get out to the exact wid you needed to go. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.040 And they went over it and over it and over 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.280 it to try to get those guys in motion the 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.480 time it up right and take off right too. And 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.960 then they had to take four steps long steps and 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.320 then break to the inside. That's how precise they were 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.560 trying to work on those motion things. You're getting too 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.720 feeling about anything about Randall Cobb. I mean to people 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.840 have been kind of disappointed in Randall Cobb, and I 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.639 guess it's because Twitter's shown video of it and stuff. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.560 I don't feel that way. I feel like Randall Cobb 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.399 playing inside. I feel like the coverage on him has 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.120 been really good. I mean, and you'd start talking about 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:34.920 some of these guys if he was saying, oh, he's 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.720 not separating the time he made several plays yesterday. Yeah, 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.320 as he's been a part of some coverages where the 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.040 ball has been knocked down. So I think in I 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:43.960 think that's a product of what's going on in the second. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:45.919 I'm not one of these guys that's to sit there 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.280 and throw dirt on Randall Cobb because I know what 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:50.879 he can do. I know what he can do in 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.800 a game and stuff like that. But I feel like 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.800 he's kind of being unfairly portrayed as a guy that 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.199 all the Dak's problems, all the Dak's poor throws are 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.720 going towards. Well, I've got I've got a message for 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.200 the people that put the videos on there. You go 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.000