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Speaker 1: This he's Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training

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Speaker 1: Camp in Oxnard, California. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian froms

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones and Happy Friday from Oxnard,

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Speaker 1: California and talking Cowboys as we kick off your big

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Speaker 1: football weekend. We've got a big football weekend here in Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 1: And inn't that a great thing to talk about as

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Speaker 1: we get started here, so much to get to Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones talk to the media for a little bit coming

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Speaker 1: off to practice field yesterday. We'll get into some of

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Speaker 1: the things that he talked abound over the course of

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Speaker 1: the next hour here, and we lead you up to

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Speaker 1: the annual Blue White Scrimmage on Sunday, which will be

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Speaker 1: broadcast right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com and on

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Speaker 1: Texas twenty one in Dallas four or six o'clock Central time,

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Speaker 1: four o'clock here on the Pacific coast. And what a

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Speaker 1: glorious morning it is here in Oxnard. Absolutely and then

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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, like you said, working into the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We had a nice practice yesterday we could talk about.

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Speaker 1: We got our periscope up and going. Mickey, you can

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Speaker 1: be any happier right now? Could you? This is just lovely.

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Speaker 1: I woke up this morning. It was fifty nine degrees

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Speaker 1: when I went out there work out, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's warming up one definitely, it's it's warmer today than

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Speaker 1: it was yesterday. I haven't checked the temperature right now.

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Speaker 1: I think Brad Chad and told me the high today

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Speaker 1: is projected to be seventy eight. Oh my, hot one.

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Speaker 1: We'll take that. Yeah, Dallas Fort Worth, you hear that

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be hot time. It's not rubb it in, No,

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Speaker 1: we won't. And it is sixty three degrees right now. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And uh back in at NT Stadium right now, it's

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Speaker 1: ninety degrees. Rob, how are you doing this morning? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing fantastic building. I can't. Yeah, I missed a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the practice yesterday. But you know, Dave hellman

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Speaker 1: is is right there with the tweets, the VIDs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got great coverage on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So

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Speaker 1: ready for another one to day kicking things off talking

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Speaker 1: about that. Uh, there's some great stuff out there right now.

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Speaker 1: They got posted yesterday or last night. Uh. One is

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Speaker 1: the process. I love the video. It's a nine minute

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Speaker 1: video the process, which uh, but it sounds like it's

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Speaker 1: that I know Chris Beam is a part of producing,

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Speaker 1: and Caden Gates. Uh. And um, but it was they

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Speaker 1: followed Gary Brown from his home getting on the team charter.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was. I just sat there in my

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Speaker 1: hotel room and watched that. It was. Uh. I just

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Speaker 1: thought that that is a terriffic thing that the new

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Speaker 1: media can produce now the old traditional, our old school,

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Speaker 1: not you rob so much, but where we used totally

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Speaker 1: have four TV stations to watch and so forth, and

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Speaker 1: the options were so limited. This is what digital media

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Speaker 1: is all about, people to do that kind of stuff. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then I love the Dak thing what he did

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Speaker 1: with us on the car wash yesterday. You guys, the

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Speaker 1: Dak drinking game. You got to check that out on

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Speaker 1: social media or I assume it's also posted on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. I haven't been able to check the

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Speaker 1: website yet, but um, it was really funny. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: were you in on the gag? No? Not before? Oh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: not at all. The reaction was funny. Your first question,

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Speaker 1: like looking at him, and then he keeps taking SIPs

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Speaker 1: and you feared something was going on. Well, I let

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Speaker 1: into the question, which wasn't you don't see on that?

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Speaker 1: he was right? So he took this big old along

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Speaker 1: And so the next question I asked was about Jerry.

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Speaker 1: the questions and everything, he's just what you want leading

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Speaker 1: your football team. You know, just the way he handles everything.

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Speaker 1: Dak having a bad day. But he was off on

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Speaker 1: a contract drive season for him too. And Mollie Collins, right,

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Speaker 1: he's just once again he's in a spot where you

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Speaker 1: know Byron's out right now, he'll be back, and you

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Speaker 1: know he's looking at third fourth corner again as well

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Speaker 1: as Anthony Brown's playing. That's you know he's on track

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Speaker 1: to keep that Nickel job. Yet whatever Chris Westery, did

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Speaker 1: good pass. But man, did you see the play that

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Speaker 1: a morning walk through in an afternoon practice today, the

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Speaker 1: second of four consecutive days of practices running through Sunday.

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Speaker 1: off last night. We had a Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, the Jones family headed that way as the

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Speaker 1: big weekend is here for them. Who won that Hall

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Speaker 1: and they took the late fourteen ten. And did you

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Speaker 1: all right, Terry Tiger, there you go, all right. Jerry

510
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: talked to the media coming off to practice field yesterday. Mickey,

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Speaker 1: you got a quick recap for us? Well, I think

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Speaker 1: there was a couple of things. The first thing was

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Speaker 1: when they are you worried you haven't got this done?

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00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: Is drawn along, drawn out, and he kind of turned

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Speaker 1: around and goes, when I haven't, When haven't I got

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00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: this done? Meaning when has I have? I not got

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Speaker 1: a player signed? And you know, I don't know. And

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00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: when Emmett was out right ninety three, he was working

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Speaker 1: a no contract, so if he missed games, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: missing money, right, right, Zeke misses one game, it's two

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four thousand dollars, right, thousand, Just a

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Speaker 1: little bit I wanted. I wanted to make a very

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Speaker 1: at of thousands, a lot of lettuce, right ye. And

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Speaker 1: then the other thing when he was asked about, um,

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Speaker 1: are you mad at Zeke? You've had his back and

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Speaker 1: now it's kind of like he's turning his back on you,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, No, he goes because you know, no

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Speaker 1: matter what, at some point, you're gonna intersect with a

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Speaker 1: divergent He used the word divergent, meaning we're gonna split apart. Right,

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Speaker 1: he goes, And then afterwards you sit down and reconcile,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, And I've got more patience now with

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00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: these types of things. So he's not mad at him, right,

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00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: and so his relationship with with Zeke will get the

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00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: deal done. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. Lets you know what,

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Speaker 1: probably just the way DeMarcus Lawrence got it done with

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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. You know that they figured it out and

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Speaker 1: got it done and um and he and he just

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Speaker 1: didn't seem worried about it. You know, it was almost like,

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Speaker 1: how many more of these questions you're gonna ask me?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not worried. I'm not worried that he's in Cabo,

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Speaker 1: he said. I know Zeke. He's very conscientious and he's

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Speaker 1: he will work out and be ready to come when

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Speaker 1: we get this done. So all the handwringing, right, the

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Speaker 1: cat doesn't die in the tree. Just remember my parable.

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Speaker 1: M Okay, okay, how about periscope. Periscope wants to know

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Speaker 1: as we've got to the first week of practice, how

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Speaker 1: your pet cats doing? Thinking of cats and trees. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice little segue, Rob, how's yours still up

549
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: in the tree? I've got like three I'll say. Lawrence

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Speaker 1: Armstrong has been one of mine, absolutely, and I think

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00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: he is taking advantage of these extra reps with Tank

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00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence still rehabbing from shoulder surgery. I'm anxious to see

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Speaker 1: him in the games where he may get a start,

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00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: may get to play a lot. Um the other side,

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Speaker 1: John Vay Johnson, he's had some ups, he's had some downs.

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen Gaiden is another guy who's playing well

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver. But again with Alan Hearn's not on

558
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: this roster anymore. They both got an opportule. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: Reggie Davis, that's your guy. We got reminded that he

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Speaker 1: was on the team and in that mini camp practice right,

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00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: and then he doubled down at the end of the

562
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: mini camp. And now he catches everything. You know, we

563
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: always talk about how fast is yea And he'll outrun

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Speaker 1: anybody if they have some sort of right he's out

565
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: running him. But he catches everything, and some of them

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Speaker 1: aren't just right perfect here he can contort his body

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Speaker 1: and catch the ball. He's not very big, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: what did he tell us from when we interviewed him

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Speaker 1: that day. He's like a yeah, I think he said,

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Speaker 1: oh I know what he said. He goes, yeah, one

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Speaker 1: sixty eight, one seventy. I looked at him, I said

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Speaker 1: We'll give you one seven soaking wet, you know, okay?

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Speaker 1: And that was when did he say the ways in

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Speaker 1: that mini camp? At the mini camp, Yeah, so listed

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Speaker 1: it one eighty five. Yeah he ain't Maybe he said

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Speaker 1: one seventy eight, one eighty and I said, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you one eighty. Then he looks like me in fifth grade.

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Speaker 1: It is, but he can run, he can run rong.

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Speaker 1: How did he do anything on punt returns yesterday? Deal? Okay?

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00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: Was catching him? Yeah, I'm just trying to think of

581
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: ways he can help himself. And these punt these punt

582
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: catches here are difficult because they always have the punter

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00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: pun with the wind and you don't really realize the

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00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: high up there. That winds blown about ten fifteen miles

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00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: an hour and the ball carries. And on top of that,

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00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: it's difficult to catch a left footed putter in the

587
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: first place with no wind because his ball goes up

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00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: and then it backs up and dies. I remember the

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Speaker 1: first time he punted Chris Boniol. It would have been Bonial. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he told me he goes the Giants will fumble at

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00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: least one or two of these punts, and sure enough

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Speaker 1: they yes, because the ball it spins differently and then

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Speaker 1: his backs up, So when you think you're there, you

594
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: got to take another step because you're gonna miss it.

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00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: But he did a pretty good job of catching him.

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Speaker 1: If you got a pet cat on defense, a pet

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00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: cat on defense, not off the top of mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Joe because last year was Antoine Woods right right, Well,

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00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: he's he's already. He ain't a pet, no mare, He's

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Speaker 1: a starter. I'll take I'll take that. I'll take Rod

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Speaker 1: Marinelli's pet cat. Okay, who's Rod Marinelli's pet cat in

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00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: this rookie class? Triston Hill. That would be Tristan Hill.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever gone to a Cowboys

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00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: camp where there has been less talk about the first

605
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: draft pick of the Cowboys, I mean roster. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I might argue with you on who's the top of

607
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: last year's vandersh didn't get a lot but but but

608
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: Taco really didn't because it was Jalen Smith getting back.

609
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: It was almost like Jalen was the first round pick

610
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: coming back into camp. But go ahead. So maybe it's

611
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: because Triston Hill after practice is laying low and people

612
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: aren't not putting himself in which it can be a

613
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: very smart thing. Okay, not putting himself in position to

614
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: run into any mini camps. Right, Okay, what are you

615
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: seeing from Triston Hill out here? I see a good play,

616
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: I see a bad play. I see a good play,

617
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: and I see a bad play. I think the consistency.

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00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: The caboose is pretty fair nickname, and he knows that.

619
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: He admits it. Now. I heard him on the radio

620
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: talking about, Yeah, my nicknames the caboose, and so I

621
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: got caught. He's caught on. He understands. And for those

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00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: who who aren't familiar with the story behind that, it's

623
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: the it's Rod Marinelli trains leaving right and you met

624
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: are not getting left behind because right now you're the caboose. Yeah,

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00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: so he's the very last car on the train, and

626
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: so he knows that, and so the the But what

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00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I need to see from him is more consistency, because

628
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: they're like I said, there's there's been plays where he's

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00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: been really good, you know, with the how active he is,

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: he could play with a little violence. He's got some

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00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: he's got some range to him. And then there's times

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00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: where he's like, oh my gosh, I'm facing this guy

633
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just getting turned and washed and all that.

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00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be a lot of up and down

635
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: for him. But he needs to develop a little bit

636
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: more consistency. But the kid is fighting his ass off

637
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: every single day. I mean even when he when he

638
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: does get blocked. You can see it in the film afterwards.

639
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: You can see that he knows what happened. He's starting

640
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: to understand, Okay, I can't let I can't let Zach

641
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: Martin do that to me. I can't let Tyrn Smith

642
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: hook me like that. I can't I can't let Suephilo

643
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: hook me like that, you know, saying so he understands.

644
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: What do you think the hope is? Where? At what

645
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: point this season will he be contributing? Oh, I think

646
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: they're going to throw him in from the word go okay,

647
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: so they'll throw him in. Well, what at what point?

648
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: Being a rookie do you think it will It'll take

649
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: some time as long as he Yeah, it might be.

650
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: It might be the Dolphins game in one time. It's

651
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: mid season. Think about Layton vanderess s. Marris didn't play

652
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: the fourth fifth game, was the first pick in the

653
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: draft and he was a rotation guy. And I don't

654
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: think he started to like a game eight or nine

655
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: his rookie year and they were deep. I get it,

656
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: but and I don't know, they don't need him. They

657
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: need him to hang in there for fifteen, eighteen, twenty plays.

658
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: That's that's because you know, like when they did the

659
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: one on one pass rush, when he goes and you

660
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: go twice, right, and he'll win one and lose one. Absolutely,

661
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: you know he got He's get the point where he's

662
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: winning both. Yeah, and and sometimes he's not going up

663
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: against the starters. He's against those he's against Sue Filo

664
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: or somebody like that. He's got to beat those guys.

665
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I thought Taco practice better yesterday myself. If you talk

666
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: about guys that kind of need to do a little

667
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: bit more. I know, we dump a lot of dirt

668
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: on him and and you know he brings it on himself.

669
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd like to see him have that, right,

670
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: But I thought he practiced better yesterday. The problem with

671
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: Taco is he needs to stand his feet better. Still

672
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: has problem with it. You know that Robert Quinn Quinn

673
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: is yeah, absolute right, Quinn was better yesterday. But to me,

674
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: going back to Taco. Taco wins on a rush and

675
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: then he's on the ground and I'm going, man, just

676
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: stand your feet, you can make that play. It's almost

677
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: like these defensive ends are playing on the edges of

678
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: their shoes, you know, and they're just and they're hitting

679
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: this grass and they're not getting to where they need

680
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: to go. You know what they need, don't you. Those

681
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: two inch mudders that we played football with fifty years

682
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: steal spike, spot built. They're working Tacco at both end spots. Right,

683
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: he's seeing anything from him flipping to the left side.

684
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: It's not anything I mean to me, it's still about

685
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: you know. You watch him go through the bags and

686
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: he's like and you know, I was talking with everybody,

687
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: Steven Thomas sitting there, and I go, Geary's gonna spin

688
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: an a shirt bump, sp spin, spin, you know he does.

689
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: He just hasn't developed the ability to just separate himself

690
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: on a rush without spinning or you know, if it

691
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: works once or quite great. But these guys who figure

692
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: out how to play him just keeping wide, keeping wide keeping,

693
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: why he's gonna spin, He's gonna spin back to you

694
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: and him. Yeah, when he gets frustrated too. He just

695
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: tries to bull rush and Tacco can't bull rush. That's

696
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: not He's not MALIEK. Collins, He's not the human log logs.

697
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: When they get in trouble, they will just power you

698
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: into the quarterback. Yeah, but Taco, you know, Tyrn Smith

699
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: is not gonna have any of that. Lyo Collins is

700
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: not gonna have any of that. And I can't remember

701
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: who told me. I don't know if it was DeMarcus,

702
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: where it was somebody. It was a veteran guy, and

703
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: they were saying, what he's got to learn is that

704
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: spin move is no good unless you get into the

705
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: guy right. He goes. If you start spinning from afar,

706
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: all you're gonna do is they're gonna catch you. He'll

707
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: spin right into right. So you gotta have the power

708
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: at least to get into the guy and then spin. Yeah,

709
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: Taco's biggest problem is that lineman can affect him by

710
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: stopping his feet. That's the the Taco's feet never he

711
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: never gets any type of momentum to get a rush,

712
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden he rushes, He's in

713
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: good shape, and then his feet stopped, and now he's

714
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: got to restart, but at that time the ball is

715
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: gone or he's got washed or you know. It's it's

716
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: it's really it's frustrating to watch him and not coming

717
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: down of Michigan. He you know, he wasn't this dynamic

718
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: make pass rush. I mean that that big ten is

719
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: known for some of those pass rushers, a lot of

720
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: them there at Ohio State. Michigan had one, you know

721
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: here recently, but I mean they just don't. It's it's

722
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: it's hard for him to do what he needs to do.

723
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: And again it's it's it's I hope that he could

724
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: stay healthy. He's fighting through some things. I could tell

725
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, there's times after plays his body language is

726
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of bad. But he's fighting through those things. He

727
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: just needed to kind of care on. I want to

728
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: ask one more question. I was going to ask you

729
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: your pet cat. Oh. It's like Christian Covington is my

730
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: guy that I've kind of been watching, I've been talking about.

731
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: I really like, I was really thought that if you

732
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: talk about a player, I thought it would have a

733
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: huge year. Xavier Woods was my huge year and then

734
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: huge huge year guy and then but Christian Covington is

735
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: a guy that I came out of he didn't get

736
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: a chance to participate in the OTAs and stuff. He

737
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: had a sack in the two minute drill the other day.

738
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: But he okay, he he beats Whitesman the guard. But

739
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: but Whiteman's Whitesman's been. He's been. He's been good. I mean,

740
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: he hasn't been terrible. It's not like he gets beat

741
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: every single play. So I felt like though he had

742
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: a nice rush yesterday, got off the ball well, affected

743
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 1: the pocket a little bit better like what I'm seeing

744
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: for him. Liked how he chases the ball too. He's

745
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: bought into the Marinelli balls down the field, rush, get

746
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: down the field, hustle, hustle, hustle, that kind of thing.

747
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: I think those kinds of things pay off for him

748
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: as well. You know, let's get to your periscope after

749
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: this break that, after that playing that nose tackle position,

750
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,200
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751
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: he's pushing the poets. He did for JJ Watt did

752
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the dirty word and he doesn't win

753
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: and ends up five ten yards behind the question. He's

754
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: got some power, he's square. He'll help these guys with

755
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: some play. Fun fact you know whose dad is. Yeah,

756
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know him. I didn't know, but yeah,

757
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Grover Covington played in the CFL a long time. It's

758
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: just interesting. He's been around football his whole life. He

759
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
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00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: about this team's potential Kellen Moore or defensive growth. I

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00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: was gonna say offensive growth. Okay, well so that would

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Speaker 1: be Kellen Moore. Well, I don't think it's because of him, Okay,

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Speaker 1: flip it, say say offensive growth or defensive growth. You're

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845
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: his first year. I think Randall Cobb will be just fine.

846
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: You've got now, regardless of what Witten does. You've got

847
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: two tight ends who've actually played in the league this year.

848
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: Last year they played, they hadn't played before. Dak gets

849
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: another year and Amari Cooper happens to be here for

850
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: the whole season. So if he does you a whole

851
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: season what he did in a half season, this growth

852
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: of this offense could be huge. Go ahead, Bright, no

853
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: killing Moore. There's still an unknown there, you know. I

854
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: think you may have to get into the games, and

855
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: because they're not showing everything, see what happens in the games.

856
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: And look, Zeke's not here either, so that's there's still

857
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: some unknown factor. I'll go with the defense because I

858
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: think we talked about the D line, Covington, Tristan Hill.

859
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: They've taken some steps to fortify some things inside. Maliek

860
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Collins hopefully healthy. You know, Layton Vanderesh and Jalen Smith

861
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: should only get better. I'm excited about Xavier Woods potentially

862
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: is more of a force back there, maybe some more

863
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: takeaways in the secondary. They have a lot of young

864
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: pieces kind of would make you sad on the offensive

865
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: side that should get better. A Woozia, you can just

866
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: go down the list. Defense excites me. Bill Jones, I'm

867
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: going I'm going. I like what you're saying, Nicky, but

868
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the defense and the secondary or

869
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: special Yeah, I mean what we were talking about earlier

870
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: in the show. These guys like Anthony Brown and Jordan

871
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: Lewis what he's shown all offseason. But I think Xavier

872
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: Woods it can be a real force in the secondary,

873
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: I think, and I give Brian credit for picking him

874
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: out out of Louisiana Tech right from the get go

875
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: in that draft year, and then I think Cheeto, I think,

876
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: and one of the things on Cheeto we were talking

877
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: to him yesterday for guys like him, and there are

878
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: numerous others that are now like third year or even

879
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: with the tight ends in their second year where this

880
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: you go across the board and Michael Gallop going into

881
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: his second year across the board, it was probably last

882
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: year too much to expect for a lot of those

883
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: guys in their first time really playing to do what

884
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: they did. Okay, now though, since they've got that year

885
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: of experience under their belt, you know, Layton vander esh too,

886
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, you can see growth there, and so I

887
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: just think I think there's there's potential these young players

888
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: on defense for growth. I like what everybody's saying here.

889
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: Who did you even mention Robert Quinn? Yeah, you know,

890
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: factoring in the pass for us to a proven guy.

891
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Well like, I like it, man. I think you guys

892
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: have got this thing nailed really Ado. Another question is

893
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: are they more likely to keep four tight ends or

894
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: six wide receivers? Oh, that's easy. I think probably. I

895
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: think there's more. There's a lot of young talent at receiver.

896
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: I would lean towards six receivers. I second the motion. Yeah, okay,

897
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean if you're also keeping a full back, so

898
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Brod so there you go. That helps on the tight

899
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: end situation. By the way, has been getting used a

900
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: lot more. Yeah, when they were when they were doing

901
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: some of their I think it was Nickel offense, or

902
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: maybe it was two minute they had him as loan

903
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: backback there. They'd like his blitz pickup. And by the way,

904
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: Pollard did nice job on one of those team fields.

905
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: And they were using them out in the motion. They

906
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: were motionating them out, they were sending them into the formation,

907
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: into the past patterns. Uh. It was almost like they

908
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: were trying to use them a lot more. First guy

909
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore mentioned in the otre not Zeke. I'll add

910
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: to that, okay, that sky war office more likely six

911
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: wide receivers, four tight ends or two quarterbacks. I two quarterbacks.

912
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: Is I think that's too anyway you're going. I think

913
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: it's yeah, two quarter quarterbacks, two quarters, regardless if it's

914
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: six or four. Yeah, man, the two quarterbacks allow them

915
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: to keep four tight ends in six wides. Why would

916
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: you why would you keep four four tight ends. Yeah. See,

917
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think I've I've moved on from

918
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: the Rico experiment. I've moved on from that. I did

919
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: the best I could, you know, I tried to give

920
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: And now if I want to keep them forward tight end,

921
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: maybe there's one playing for the Denver Broncos of the

922
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers or somebody like that that I feel

923
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: a little bit better about. Yeah, I got squad. I

924
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: was gonna say, do you want to keep Cody you

925
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: practice squad and then sure, sure, But I mean, if

926
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: you want a great story, he is, by the way,

927
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: which you want have time to get into right now.

928
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: Do you see them really given up on Mike White

929
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: though as a fifth round pick? Or is that am

930
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I feel like I just

931
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: feel like he's not getting that many snaps he's he's

932
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: he made we made a really good throw if you

933
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: know the team, after he got sacked, he made a

934
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: really good throw down the middle of the field to

935
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz to get him in field goal range. And

936
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: the clock was running and he spiked it and I

937
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: remember looking at Bucky like did the time run out

938
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: or you know, But Yeah, it was a good It

939
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: was a nice blind back shoulder basically throw to Dalton Schultz,

940
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: and I hadn't seen him make one like that. I

941
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: get frustrated with Mike White because I saw him play

942
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: so much better at Western Kentucky. I asked Jason Garrett

943
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: about the things. Hey, kind of teach us what to

944
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: look for when we're you know, you know, in and

945
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: out of the huddle, leadership, moving guys around, completing the play,

946
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: all these things, and it seems like that Mike White

947
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: is always lacking one of the things I need him

948
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: to do in order to kind of quiet. That's okay.

949
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is quiet, yeah, but not I don't want

950
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: him quiet. Cooper Rush making better throws. Yeah, that's just

951
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Yeah. Yeah, So if you told me

952
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: if they were going to go with two quarterbacks, Cooper

953
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: Rush and Dak Prescott are your two quarterbacks right now.

954
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: If you just want to go off what we've seen

955
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: out here at practice, well, the other thing you can

956
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: do is Mike White practice squad. Yeah yeah, maybe somebody else.

957
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Will somebody else say, you know, we had a pretty

958
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: good grade on Mike White. Let's give him an opportunity

959
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: and he might be the situation where he didn't want

960
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: to be on the practice squad here. You know, someone

961
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: maybe go somewhere else to be on the practice squad,

962
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: and you know the games he may, he may. That's

963
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: that we're saying about that number four twenty sixteen at

964
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,479
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah you have another one. Uh no, okay,

965
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: good with that one thing. Two minute warning goes to

966
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: both benches. Now. One thing Jerry talked about also yesterday

967
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: was Alfred Morris, and I think he basically confirmed what

968
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: you were saying that that was the that was the

969
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: other option. That was his plan, the plan, and and

970
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it this morning that even if

971
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: you look beyond let's say Zeke comes back, which he will,

972
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: but from an injury standpoint, all right, we love seeing

973
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: the development of young running backs, yes we do. But

974
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: I think it was important to get a veteran like

975
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris in here just to have the insurance, just

976
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: to have in case of injury. And they felt that

977
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: somebody else might go get him. Yeah, yeah, they'll sit

978
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: down and watch because we aren't sure even though we

979
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: as as media, as fans, whatever, we're looking at young

980
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: guys saying okay, we kind of at this point you

981
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of see what their potential could be. You want

982
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: to see that potential. And the fact of the matter is,

983
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: it's tough playing even though the running back is a

984
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: position where you can come in, It's tough for a

985
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: seventh rounder. It's tough for a fourth rounder to come

986
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: in here. And a lot of them why, whether it's

987
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: blitz pickups whatever, for them to really be a guy

988
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: that you're depending on this first year, or it's tough

989
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: on a guy that spent the year on the practice squad.

990
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: Don't go to sleep. But Jordan Shutting, Yeah, his name

991
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: has been popping up around here too. Don't go to

992
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: sleep on him. They like him, yep. And that Darius

993
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: Jackson those well you see him. Do you see him

994
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: knock a woozier on that they run? They run that

995
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: crack toss? Yea. And by the way, you see who

996
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: was the point of attack player at the crack toss?

997
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: It was your fourteen million dollars receiver blocking Robert Quinn,

998
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, so he hats off.

999
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: Give him a helmet sticker for that block he got

1000
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: right there? Was that the one on the sideline? Oh yeah,

1001
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: that's the one that Heath came up. No, it was

1002
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods. Excuse me, it's a Woozier. No Woozier. But

1003
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: then after it was over, Heath came up and got

1004
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: into it, like, okay, so we're gonna get physical at

1005
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: practice today. Sure, I think we're gonna get on the

1006
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: goal line. We're gonna get physical. We're gonna go live.

1007
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: Can we go live on Go go live on goal line.

1008
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: We'll be there writing about and talk to me right

1009
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: on the goal line. He day is the day to

1010
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: do it right. Training camp Live. Take goal line today, Today, today,

1011
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: and I'm asking for the Friday before the Blue White

1012
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: scrimmage has been a day where they go live right.

1013
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: Sure day Jason's press conference line today. You may not

1014
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: want to tip off the opposition. It's Mickey's day on

1015
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: training Camp Live. So we go goal line. You get

1016
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: to hear the room at it. That's what we'll look

1017
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: forward to and we will talk at you again tomorrow.

1018
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,680
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