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Speaker 8: We got our crew here. Tommy yarsh is joining us today.

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Speaker 8: Ambers out today. She'll be back tomorrow. But today we

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Speaker 8: got a lot of fun lined up for you guys.

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Speaker 8: We'll talk a little bit about Jerry Jones and what

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Speaker 8: he had to say this morning on the Fan. That

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Speaker 8: was some interesting comments that came out of that, obviously

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Speaker 3: We'll also have some time with Brian.

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Speaker 8: We'll go inside the mind of Brian brought us and

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Speaker 8: as you saw when I mentioned we'd have some fun today,

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Speaker 8: he shook his head yes. So my guess is he

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Speaker 8: has some questions that are going to challenge us and.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you can get us in trouble.

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Speaker 8: We don't know. We'll see how that goes. And then obviously,

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Speaker 8: well I have some questions for you guys. Maybe in

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Speaker 8: also take some calls if you guys want to call

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Speaker 8: It's a good day to give us a call, so

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Speaker 8: let's start first with Jerry Jones this morning, he was

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Speaker 8: what people are talking about, it's really around the Derek

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Speaker 8: our situation, Derrick Henry didn't fit managing, didn't fit managing

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Speaker 8: because of because of managing the cap. Essentially, he was saying,

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Speaker 3: And I'll ask you guys what you think of that.

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Speaker 8: But also he's saying that they didn't make the move

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Speaker 8: because they were managing the cap. And I want to

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Speaker 8: but first, what are your thoughts on those comments?

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Speaker 8: Let me ask you this, do you think cause it's

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Speaker 11: Way, and by the way, I would appreciate Yeah.

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Speaker 11: The philosophy got a lot of teams in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if that was it.

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Speaker 11: Yet what I'm saying you all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 11: Let's see you play this run there? Son, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, get off this tackle and there.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, this is where it all went bad for a

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Speaker 11: It's philosophy. Everybody's now different. And now know what's happened.

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Speaker 9: Could would should have, Yeah, Nick, might.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, And that's what they were all of it.

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Speaker 11: Look at the teams that are benefiting from these running backs.

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Speaker 11: is committed to trying to run the football, let me

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Speaker 11: tell you what. You'll get real committed to football if

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Speaker 11: If you're passing off like you wanted to twenty sixteen

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Speaker 11: I get it. Running the football helps the You know,

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Speaker 11: Scott Linehan called a play, it was second and four

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Speaker 11: They're they're behind.

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Speaker 3: And I even think for the games that they're behind.

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Speaker 8: I think one of the reasons why they're struggling so

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Speaker 11: You're struggling up front. Your right tackle is not playing,

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Speaker 11: center that doesn't you know, he's learning how to play

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Speaker 11: there's never a new situation where they can come out

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Speaker 11: Pittsburgh was the best example of they have a little bit.

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Speaker 11: The game was closed, they were able to kind of

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Speaker 11: you're like what, yeah, you know, But at least it's

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Speaker 11: a great call.

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Speaker 8: Real quick before we end the segment, give me an

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Speaker 8: update on what he had to see about Deron Bland

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Speaker 9: Yeah, tell me you got it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Deron Bland and Michael Parsons, Jerry said, would be

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Speaker 11: Those guys in San Francis. I would I would, I

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Speaker 11: would hope for Bland and I think that your linebacker

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Speaker 11: will probably be practicing with that practice and excuse me,

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Speaker 11: he'll be working with Britt Brown. That one seems that

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Speaker 11: one seems a little more dicey than what the situation

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Speaker 3: I would agree with that. What are you hearing about,

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Speaker 11: You know what I haven't asked about because.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like that when.

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Speaker 8: When he first went out, I was thinking a game

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Speaker 8: it just it makes me think, like, what did we.

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Speaker 3: Not ask because it seems like that that's going a.

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Speaker 8: Lot longer than maybe I thought it would have. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: I'm not a doctor and I wasn't looking at him.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 8: But but I'm more interested now to see when he's

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Speaker 9: Another thing, if you signed Derek Henry, you would have

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Speaker 9: M hoped would change?

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Speaker 11: I mean something you hoped would change for the squad

439
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,040
Speaker 11: but just hasn't appeared. It hasn't happened.

440
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 12: I would have hoped that DAK and CD at this

441
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 12: point in the season would have found some kind of

442
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 12: rhythm together, and it just seems like, you know, we're

443
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 12: six games in and there's been no sign of improvement.

444
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 12: In that fact that there's been no sign of a

445
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 12: click or a connection. There's still you know, miscommunicating on routes.

446
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 12: I think the most glaring one was where I think

447
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 12: it was CD was supposed to run out to the side.

448
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,719
Speaker 3: On the vertical right.

449
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, it looked like to me there was a safety

450
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 11: in the middle of the field. I don't think Dak

451
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 11: wanted to throw him the ball there. Yeah, and CD

452
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 11: didn't see it. I don't think he saw it the

453
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 11: right way.

454
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 12: Okay, but yeah, I mean that if if Dallas is

455
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 12: going to throw the ball as much as they want

456
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 12: to do, and those two can't get on the same page,

457
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 12: it's not gonna go well, I don't think so that

458
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 12: would be my answer, boss Man.

459
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 3: Mine would have to be Rico Daubdle.

460
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 8: I really thought if the Cowboys would use him that

461
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 8: I thought they are running game would be a lot

462
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 8: better than it's been. And my personal belief, I still

463
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 8: believe they have. They just haven't been willing to commit

464
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 8: to it. And I think if they do. I think

465
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,719
Speaker 8: they'd get more out of it because there has been

466
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 8: one game when they've done it and it actually did work.

467
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 8: It wasn't a world beater, it wasn't something that was

468
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 8: going to be up there with the best running backs

469
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 8: in the league, but it was more than serviceable to

470
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 8: keep this offense moving. And I think that's what that's

471
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 8: what I want to see more of. But to this point,

472
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 8: it just hasn't happened.

473
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 9: As a young evaluator, I've learned my lesson Brian. I

474
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 9: put a lot of faith into this rush defense coming

475
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,959
Speaker 9: into the year because they added so much depth at

476
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Speaker 9: the linebacking corps. I was looking at it on paper,

477
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 9: top five line linebacking corps in the league. You can

478
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 9: look at what the experience of youth, the athleticism, but

479
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 9: it doesn't matter if you don't have anything upfront. And

480
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 9: so I expected this rush defense to be better than

481
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 9: it's been and just not showing any improved.

482
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: Jump in our house.

483
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 8: Real quick on that note, coming into this year is

484
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 8: for everybody to table. Did you think the rush defense

485
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 8: problems were more about the linebackers or the defensive tackles.

486
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 9: I thought it was more about the linebackers. Last year,

487
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 9: I thought it was about only one healthy linebackers.

488
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, year, I thought it was the edges. I didn't

489
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 11: feel like that they were very.

490
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,239
Speaker 9: Long as had an awesome season last year.

491
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Speaker 11: When you look when you looked at team on the

492
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 11: right edge, to me, that's where I worried because over

493
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 11: there at the time, it was like Armstrong Fowler. I

494
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 11: was worried about. Sam Williams is who I was really

495
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 11: worried about. And I thought, if you added the linebackers

496
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 11: and maybe the safety play in your corner, I thought

497
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 11: it would be better. But it really hasn't been. And

498
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 11: it's what's unfortunately lea excuse me, uh our edge from

499
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 11: Western Michigan got hurt marneel and yeah, Neiling got hurt,

500
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 11: and so now you lost that. He looked like to me,

501
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 11: he was kind of going the right direction playing over there.

502
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 11: But man, I I see what you're saying about the linebackers.

503
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 11: That to me was that was very very That's questionable

504
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 11: the way they played that thing last year.

505
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I.

506
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Speaker 12: Would agree with think that the linebackers was probably the

507
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 12: thing that I was looking at the most. And then

508
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 12: you bring in a guy like Kendricks and you kind

509
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 12: of see now why he's so important to have there.

510
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 12: I mean, you asked last week, you know, what's the

511
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 12: one guy on the defense you want back, and I

512
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 12: said Kendricks, because he's going to be your tackling machine

513
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 12: and get guys to the ground. So just something they

514
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 12: didn't have last year.

515
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 8: You know, I think those are all positions of that

516
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 8: we worried about. But I still think it started up front.

517
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 8: And I think frankly, the best one technique they had

518
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 8: on the team last year was no longer here in Hankins,

519
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 8: and I don't think he played particularly well in some games.

520
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 8: Some games he didn't play well, And so that's where

521
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 8: I think the defensive for me, the defensive tackle was

522
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 8: still going to be the issue, and my only hope

523
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 8: was that Mazzi would consistently be seeing That was my hope.

524
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 11: This is where this is where the answer and you

525
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 11: could talk about the position, but this is where it

526
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 11: really is about Mazzi, you know, because you're saying something

527
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 11: you were hopeful that was going to be better and

528
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 11: it just isn't better right now.

529
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

530
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 11: It's just I mean, he had won that flash game

531
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 11: where you're watching him play and it's like, man, Okay,

532
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 11: maybe he could carry this over.

533
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: Got ut.

534
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, you get excited about it and it really just

535
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 11: isn't It's it's a lot of the not as bad

536
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 11: as it was last year, but it's just not where

537
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 11: it needs to be. Yeah, but you're right about the

538
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 11: defensive tackles that group, Derek Well beating a banged up

539
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 11: forty nine ers squad do anything for you? Is that

540
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 11: just what the Cowboys do?

541
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 3: Hell?

542
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 8: Yes, Hey, I don't style point wins, And as you

543
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 8: say all the time, Brian, nobody feels sorry for you.

544
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 8: This team has been dealing with injuries all season, and

545
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 8: injuries to some of their best players. So no, I

546
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 8: don't feel sorry for them going up to San Francisco

547
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 8: after what the Cowboys have been, how the Cowboys have

548
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 8: performed in that stadium over the last several times they've

549
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 8: been there. I don't care who's playing, I don't care

550
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 8: who's out. If Dallas goes up there and gets a win,

551
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 8: it matters. It's a good win.

552
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, especially Sunday night game.

553
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 11: You really didn't want to read you want to, but

554
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 11: I do.

555
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 9: Agree that this is ahead.

556
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 11: What's the argument if you if you don't think it's

557
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 11: what's the argument that saying that, Like, I don't think

558
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 11: it's a good win.

559
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 9: Well, the banged up I think it's pretty I think

560
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 9: it's just pretty straight line.

561
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 11: So you're saying, you're saying San Francisco banged up. If

562
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 11: you beat them banged up, it's not.

563
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that. I was just thinking about it.

564
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 11: But but if you argue that point because you were

565
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 11: thinking about it, I was thinking about it. Okay, if

566
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 11: you're thinking about it, tell me what tell me the

567
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 11: argument you would have clarification.

568
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 9: This is not my point, but I will. I would

569
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 9: argue with me.

570
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 11: That's what I said. I want you to. I want

571
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 11: you to tell me why his point's wrong. Because you

572
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 11: thought about it.

573
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: I thought he did.

574
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 9: I thought about it. I would say by.

575
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 11: I clip this for him later and then just tweeted

576
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 11: out that he's a hater.

577
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 9: It was a tweet. There was a tweet lest that

578
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 9: where we were talking about it in the break and

579
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 9: I was I showed Tobby last night. He's like the

580
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 9: healthiest skill player for the forty nine ers was shot

581
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 9: in the chest two months ago. I'd be like, this

582
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 9: is a banged up squad and he's a rookie. On

583
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 9: the same token, you have Jordan Mason, who's the second

584
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 9: year guy undrafted. I mean, it's just kind of been

585
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 9: a group effort and brock Perty has been putting some

586
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 9: compromising situations. And you look at the teams that they

587
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 9: have lost to up to this point as well, and

588
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 9: the games that they have played. It's not the forty

589
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 9: nine ers you saw in Week five last year. I

590
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 9: think we can all agree to that. Yeah, but I

591
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 9: think on the same token. Now, this is my point. This,

592
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 9: this is my point to clarify. You're still going Sunday night,

593
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 9: Week seven playing the forty nine Ers, the team that

594
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 9: has been your boogeyman over the course of the last

595
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 9: three to four years. At the very least, it doesn't

596
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 9: matter if it's Tommy Yars playing quarterback for these guys,

597
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 9: it could be. It's a confidence booster. It's a confidence

598
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 9: booster because you beat the forty nine ers, you can

599
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 9: move into the next stretch of your schedule with that

600
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 9: one in your back pocket.

601
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 8: Okay, So here's the deal for anybody out there that's

602
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 8: going to compare injury reports. Yeah, oh no, you can

603
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 8: talk about yeah, yeah, but you've lost Dallas has lost

604
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 8: both the defensive ends, by the way, one of them

605
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 8: is one of the best defensive ends in the entire

606
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 8: National Football League. You've lost one of your starting cornerbacks,

607
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 8: you've lost your middle linebacker, you've lost your start your

608
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 8: starting wide receiver. Yes, they're banged up. Dallas is justice

609
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 8: banged up. I don't think there's a team out there

610
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 8: that Dallas that has less injuries to major players on

611
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 8: their team than Dallas. And so again, I don't feel

612
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 8: sorry for anybody Dallas is dealing with the same thing.

613
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 3: A win is a win is a win.

614
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 9: If anything, it's kind of matched up because this defense

615
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 9: is really banged up and San Francisco's offense is really

616
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 9: banged up. So you're gonna kind of see that depth

617
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 9: tested for both sides.

618
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 12: Tell me what about it, well, man, I mean everybody

619
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 12: took my points basically.

620
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 11: Now we're just like talking. Yeah, that's why I asked

621
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 11: the first question.

622
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: This is rank you he gets rookie treatment.

623
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 12: I think Derek said it best. It's like, well, yeah,

624
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 12: San Francisco is banged up, but so is Dallas. Not

625
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 12: to be Tom Herman here, but wins are hard to

626
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 12: come by, especially in the Nflan sorry, Tom, but wins

627
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 12: are hard to come by in the NFL. You never

628
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 12: apologize for getting a win. It doesn't matter if I'm

629
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 12: the quarterback for the forty nine ers. If the Cowboys

630
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 12: win that game, you don't apologize for it. Your four

631
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 12: and three and they need that win. It's not a

632
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 12: must win game, I don't think. I think there are

633
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 12: very few must win games this early in the season.

634
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 9: But I take that back, but this is a game.

635
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 12: That that's going to stir up so much dat and

636
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 12: momentum into what I think is going to be a

637
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 12: really tough one on the road against Atlanta next week.

638
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 11: Sure, I'm Derek. As soon as you said, I don't care.

639
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 11: I appreciate you all those years of listening to me

640
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 11: sitting next to you on a playing bitch about that

641
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 11: we got to win this game, man, we gotta win

642
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 11: this game.

643
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: Nobody cares.

644
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 11: I don't nobody cares. Nobody cares. It's gonna be like

645
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 11: you know, it's gonna say, well it was a beat up.

646
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 11: I don't care, don't care.

647
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 9: Did you have done for that?

648
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 11: Beam?

649
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 10: All right?

650
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 11: How about this one for you?

651
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: Nick Uh?

652
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 11: This one I wanted to know. How excited are you? Okay,

653
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 11: I'm sorry, I'm sure this one I wanted to do

654
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 11: for you. Best guess that you will, best guess that

655
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 11: you will see something scheme wise after the buy for

656
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 11: the offense, so like like.

657
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 9: A scheme change necessarily my best guess towards it.

658
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Speaker 11: Yeah, best guess.

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Speaker 9: I like this. Oh man, this is I mean, I

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Speaker 9: think the easy the easy answer would be just I

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Speaker 9: think the easy answer would be motion, just because there's

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Speaker 9: been so much talk about it and that's what happened

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Speaker 9: post by last year.

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Speaker 17: Uh.

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Speaker 9: I think there's going to be a little bit more

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Speaker 9: creativity in the run game. And here's why. I have

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Speaker 9: a couple of couple of points that could lead to

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Speaker 9: a little bit of confidence in that area.

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Speaker 11: Owner didn't Psyche had too much confidence in the scheme earlier.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the confidence is that's a different scale.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I uh.

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Speaker 9: Yesterday Mike McCarthy's press conference, well let's go back to

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Speaker 9: last week. He said there were problems with how they

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Speaker 9: were practicing. I asked him yesterday, followed up, Okay, have

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Speaker 9: you gotten with your staff about how you guys are

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Speaker 9: going to correct practicing situations? He said, we want to

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Speaker 9: do more group settings. And for example, the example he

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Speaker 9: put out is we need our offensive line. He said,

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Speaker 9: for example, we need our offensive line to work as

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Speaker 9: a unit in run block, and we need it. We're

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Speaker 9: gonna take that to the practice field in the situation

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Speaker 9: where we're not doing one on ones anymore. We're doing

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Speaker 9: two on two s, three on threes. And so I'm

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Speaker 9: thinking about it, and I'm looking at it. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 9: if they want to be better in run blocking, then

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Speaker 9: they are trying to be a more cohesive unit, which

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Speaker 9: leads me to believe that there might be more a

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Speaker 9: little bit more tweaks to the run blocking schematics in

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Speaker 9: the sense that they can they want to get guys

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Speaker 9: into the second level. Maybe help Cooper BB get into

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Speaker 9: the second level with Zach Martin or with Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 9: Have those guys kind of lead Gooper b B into

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Speaker 9: that area until he can kind of do it on

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Speaker 9: his own, you know, like walk until you can run.

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Speaker 9: And I think on the on the end as well, Yes,

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Speaker 9: Tyler Goeyton or I'm sorry, Yes, the tight ends have

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Speaker 9: not been great at the point of attack, but they

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Speaker 9: could still help Tyler Guidon a lot more than they

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Speaker 9: have been, so maybe using that to to help with

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Speaker 9: the run blocking schematics as well. I think you're going

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Speaker 9: to see this team try to run the ball a

702
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Speaker 9: little bit more effectively in San Francisco this week.

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Speaker 12: About you, Tommy, I was kind of going to say

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Speaker 12: something along the lines of getting tight ends on the

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Speaker 12: on the side for guitting to help him out, and

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Speaker 12: I think, you know, you look at hoping that these

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Speaker 12: running backs can pass protect a little bit better. Sure,

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Speaker 12: but since that was most of Nick's answer, I think

709
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Speaker 12: they loaded the box up a little bit more defensively.

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Speaker 12: I think they've just been getting a run over every

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Speaker 12: single game they've played, especially in the San Francisco game.

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Speaker 12: I mean, Jordan Mason's had a great year so far

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Speaker 12: to start, and they've established the run really well. You know,

714
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Speaker 12: it doesn't matter who's hurt for them on the outside.

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Speaker 12: Kyle Shanahan's gonna run the ball, sure, and it doesn't

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Speaker 12: matter who runs the ball for him. It could be

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Speaker 12: me for all we know at this point, since Nick's

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Speaker 12: basically coined me a forty nine er, they're going to

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Speaker 12: run the ball really well. So I think, especially coming

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Speaker 12: out into this game and you look at Atlanta too,

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Speaker 12: with a guy like Bjeon Robinson. This is a team

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Speaker 12: that I think needs to load the box a little

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Speaker 12: bit more and you can see some benefices that for

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Speaker 12: San Francisco with so many of their receivers out potentially

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Speaker 12: for this game, Derek.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think I think the natural answer is

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Speaker 8: as Nick mentioned, was you'll see more motion, because I

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Speaker 8: think that's what we saw last year. But I actually

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Speaker 8: think one of the things I actually think I would

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Speaker 8: do if I were the head coach is I would

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Speaker 8: actually challenge those two guys on the right hand side

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Speaker 8: of the offensive line, Zat Martin Terrence Steele, and I

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Speaker 8: would say, hey, I know we've been struggling a little

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Speaker 8: bit here. Certainly we've been struggling when it comes to

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Speaker 8: pass protection. I'm gonna load this thing up, and I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna let you guys power block, and I'm gonna let

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Speaker 8: you guys go get after somebody.

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Speaker 3: Can you do it?

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Speaker 8: And I would actually power my running game behind the

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Speaker 8: right hand side of this line with a challenge to

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Speaker 8: those two guys and really try to get my running

742
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Speaker 8: game established. I think that's something that is necessary for

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Speaker 8: this team and the only way I think they're going

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Speaker 8: to help get themselves out of the rut they're in offensively,

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Speaker 8: particularly in the red zone, is to establish a running game.

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Speaker 8: I would do it on the right hand side of

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Speaker 8: the ball.

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Speaker 10: I like that.

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Speaker 11: I'll tell you what the thing different than the scheme.

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Speaker 11: I think that he is going to I like what

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Speaker 11: you guys are saying about the motion stuff. I think

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Speaker 11: he's going to try and put get his guys more

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Speaker 11: on the move. Maybe it's not and maybe it's not

754
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Speaker 11: more all the way across. Maybe it's motion out, maybe

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Speaker 11: it's short motion. Maybe it's out coming in and then running,

756
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Speaker 11: getting into a bunch formations, scattering. He's got to create

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Speaker 11: separation for his guys. Tree Eetman questions your route running,

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Speaker 11: how that's been.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Jerry agreed with that.

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Speaker 11: This morning Jerry talked about Jerry did talk about that.

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Speaker 11: He gave Troy a lot of credit. But the one

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Speaker 11: thing that Jerry said was the separation aspect of it.

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Speaker 11: And this is where I think that Mike McCarthy needs

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Speaker 11: to try and help. You know, if you have guys

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Speaker 11: that are struggling with routes, put them in motion and

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Speaker 11: then allow them to play on the run. One of

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Speaker 11: the great things about Ceedee Lamb at Oklahoma was his

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Speaker 11: ability to play run after catch. So find ways to

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Speaker 11: get him and others if they're having trouble getting off

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Speaker 11: the line of scrimmage, and Jerry was talking about fighting

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Speaker 11: through press coverage, fighting through those things. Don't make them fight,

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Speaker 11: make them, let them, let them have a running start,

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Speaker 11: don't make them play stationary football around here. You've got

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Speaker 11: to find a way to get more of your guys

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Speaker 11: playing on the movie. Doesn't have to be just full

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Speaker 11: out motion all the time, but at least give them

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Speaker 11: a chance to get a running start on these defensive

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Speaker 11: backs and then maybe work that way.

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Speaker 9: I'll tell you after that Lions game and the physicality

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Speaker 9: of the secondary through on the Cowboys receiving core, they

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Speaker 9: need Canadian rules to if I ever play with Lions,

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Speaker 9: they need to be running forward now play.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Derek ry good questions. All right,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back.

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Speaker 3: Randy, what up, Hello?

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Speaker 10: How's it going good? Are you hey? I got a question?

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Speaker 10: I'm good. I got a question for Brian going going forward?

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Speaker 10: Coming up. I feel that this team you've been talking

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Speaker 10: about the running back situation and the D tackles, and

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Speaker 10: I think going into next year, they're going to need

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Speaker 10: two running backs and two D tackles. And I feel

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Speaker 10: And I feel that with the injury to Hutchinson in

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Speaker 10: Detroit that Michael Parsons should have some trade value and

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Speaker 10: I was wondering how much could they get for Michael

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Speaker 10: Parsons to get the extra picks that they need.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the problem is when you trade for a player

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Speaker 11: like that, Thanks for the call. When you trade for

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Speaker 11: give you a whole lot because they're in a situation

877
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 11: where they're like Okay, we're giving you a pick, but

878
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 11: we've also got to pay the line share of this

879
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 11: salary and.

880
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: Pay their guy and he's going to still be there.

881
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 11: With he exactly. That's the that's the problem. And so

882
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 11: you know that, you know every team, you know, you

883
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 11: look at, teams have been been very fortunate when they've

884
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 11: moved players that they've been able to The teams that

885
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 11: are the buyers, I think have gotten off pretty good

886
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 11: with you know, with the way that they've they've given up,

887
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 11: you know, given up assets to get I don't think

888
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 11: there's you know, we've seen in the past, you know,

889
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 11: oh for two ones and this, that and the other.

890
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 11: I think teams are willing to if you really really

891
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 11: want to make this deal, you're probably not looking at

892
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 11: two ones here, you know, you're probably looking at a

893
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 11: one and something else along the way.

894
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 8: Uh does that change based on the time of the year,

895
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 8: Like as you get closer to draft do you get

896
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 8: to does it tend to be a higher premium on

897
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 8: the picks you get versus end season.

898
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's I think that has a lot

899
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 11: to do with it. But like I say, teams just

900
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 11: aren't willing Like if you're if you're willing to move

901
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 11: on from Micah Parsons, then you know you're the seller here,

902
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 11: you know, and teams are like knowing that you're going

903
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 11: to be the seller.

904
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 17: Uh.

905
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 11: You know, if you ask for something that's ridiculous, nobody's

906
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 11: going to buy. You've committed to selling, but you know

907
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 11: you're you're now looking for the buyer, and the buyers

908
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 11: are trying to get the best deal possible. And a

909
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 11: lot of like I say, a lot of buyers for

910
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 11: these players. Look, you know, look for these like some

911
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 11: of these guys that have been moved, these star players

912
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 11: that have been moved. It's been for some pretty reasonable

913
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 11: stuff with the except I mean there's a quarterback or

914
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 11: two that's been moving. I mean, what the what the

915
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 11: Browns gave up, you know for the Shaun Watson and

916
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 11: stuff like that is pretty But that's a quarterback position.

917
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 11: I would say you're gonna shoot for two ones. I

918
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 11: would say you're probably gonna get one in a one

919
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 11: and something else if you were to go that route.

920
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 9: You said something about Michael earlier on the show. I'd

921
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 9: like to ask you about You said he's one of

922
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 9: the best defensive ends in the league. Do you think

923
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 9: he's one of the best pass rushers in the league

924
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 9: or one of the best defensive ends in the league.

925
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 9: I feel like there's a clear line there, and if.

926
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: You feel like I'll put it to you like this,

927
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: I'll put you like this.

928
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 8: Most of the guys that have put in that conversation's

929
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 8: best pass rushers. That's what you call the best defensive ends.

930
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 8: And I don't know that they're necessarily the best because

931
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 8: it's quite frankly, I think if you really say best

932
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 8: defensive ends, DeMarcus Lawren should be a part of that

933
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 8: conversation more. I just think all of us media, fans, everybody,

934
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 8: the premium for an edge person an edge player is

935
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 8: can you get after the quarterback?

936
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 3: I think that's first and foremost so, so from.

937
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 8: That standpoint, I would say holistically, knowing that pass rush

938
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 8: is what he does best, I would say he's one

939
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 8: of the best defensive ends, the best edges in the NFL.

940
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 8: And you would say he's not the greatest in run support, Yeah,

941
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 8: you know, I think they're ones that are better. I think,

942
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 8: but I also don't think he's a liability in run support.

943
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: I really don't.

944
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 10: Yeah.

945
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 11: I just like to say it's it's a it's kind

946
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 11: of slippery slope that you that you walk because you think,

947
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 11: because you have one of the best at a posit

948
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 11: that you're going to get maximum value, and it just

949
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 11: doesn't always work out that way because teams, teams are like, listen,

950
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 11: we're going to have to pay him thirty five million

951
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 11: dollars a year, you know, But how many teams are

952
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 11: willing to do that? That's what you have to look

953
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 11: at right there.

954
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get a call from Terry out

955
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: in Detroit.

956
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 11: Terry, what up?

957
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, a long time listen our first time caller.

958
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 15: Uh.

959
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 4: I just want to say I think part of the

960
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: offensive line problem is you got guys playing out of position.

961
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: I mean, Smith is a left tackle, he should be

962
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: playing left tackle. Sixty is a right tackle, he should

963
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: be playing right tackle. Okay, BB centate center, put him

964
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 4: where he belongs. Get yourself a true center that understands

965
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: the position, and I think you can move forward steal.

966
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: I will probably put him up on the trade block,

967
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: get some draft picks if you can with him. And

968
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 4: my big thing at I didn't hear the last caller,

969
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: but I would probably trade Parsons too. I'll put him

970
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: up on the draft because you can't. His numbers don't

971
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: justify the paychecks. You know, his last game he had

972
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: five tackles. Okay, all his sacks seem to come in

973
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: the first quarter. There's no fourth quarter sacks other than

974
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: the one against the Rams. I can remember that one. Uh.

975
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: But I think persons is a waste of money. If

976
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: you if you give him the money, he's just it's

977
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: a waste. Okay. Then you're gonna sit there and say that,

978
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna sit there and say, oh, we can't you know,

979
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: pay this guy because we don't have the money because

980
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 4: this cap strapped.

981
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 7: You know.

982
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: But I think the offensive line this year there is

983
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: I think you got guys just playing out of their

984
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: out of position is the key key thing there.

985
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: All right, thanks for Carl guessing.

986
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 11: I think BB is going to be a fine center.

987
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 9: I think too.

988
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 11: I mean, and I and I do appreciate the gentleman's

989
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 11: thoughts though, because he's not wrong in some ways. I mean,

990
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 11: if you think about, you know, the thing with man,

991
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 11: you could go either way with Tyler Smith personally.

992
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: He'll be great. I think it either one either.

993
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 11: One, either guard or tackle. I mean, I I like

994
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 11: what he did there.

995
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: I do think bbe.

996
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 11: The one problem I just had with BB is the

997
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 11: is the twist game stuff everything else. I think he's

998
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 11: really he's really done it, really a solid job for you.

999
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 11: The pressures and things like that. I mean, he just

1000
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 11: gets a little too aggressive with trying to help and

1001
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 11: he needs to be a little bit more aware. But

1002
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 11: I think that comes with experience. Like I say, the

1003
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 11: thing with Geiton that is a that is massive. The

1004
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 11: learning curve is massive over there with him and the

1005
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 11: techniques and stuff. That's that's what's going to be an issue.

1006
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 11: But we're so accustomed to plug and play. We're so

1007
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 11: accustomed to whoever they draft in the first round plug

1008
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 11: and play and they're in the Pro Bowl their first year.

1009
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 11: You know, That's where we're at right now. With that,

1010
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 11: I think it's a good call. That really was.

1011
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 8: I want to throw this out real quick for for

1012
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 8: all those that have the opinion that Michael Parsons doesn't

1013
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 8: really provide for you what the money would say he

1014
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 8: would command. Just go watch the film when Mike is

1015
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 8: playing and see the amount of attention and resources that

1016
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 8: offense is dedicate to trying to stop him because I

1017
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 8: think that matters, and I would say that's to me,

1018
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 8: it's a bit of a failure on the level level

1019
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 8: of pass rush that they get from other players along

1020
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 8: that line that so much attention is paid to Micah

1021
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 8: and other guys aren't being able to get home and

1022
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 8: being able to affect the quarterback as they should. I

1023
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 8: don't think it's necessarily all Micah. I think it's more

1024
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 8: about the fact that teams are trying to take him out.

1025
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 8: They're doing whatever they can to to make him, take

1026
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 8: him out of that out of a pass rush game,

1027
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 8: and as a result, it's leaving opportunities for other guys.

1028
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 8: They're just not taking advantage of it.

1029
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 11: Running the football really hurts Micah because it takes away

1030
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 11: his ability to be a pass rusher.

1031
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: Slows him down, Yeah, slows him down.

1032
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 11: Well, it just the fact that they're running the ball

1033
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 11: with success and they're not throwing it. They're able to

1034
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 11: get they able to get first downs without throwing the football.

1035
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: They don't earn the right rushing past that.

1036
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 11: You saw what a really good pass rush did in

1037
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 11: Week one. It hasn't been that way since. It just

1038
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 11: hasn't because they've not gotten anybody into that mode. It's

1039
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 11: a pressure on Pittsburgh a little bit because the game

1040
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 11: was in the balance. But they this team, like I said,

1041
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 11: is I think it's built to be a pass rushing team.

1042
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 11: It's built to be a third down team when it

1043
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 11: comes to their pass rush. You know, we'll see about

1044
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 11: the coverage aspect of it.

1045
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 9: I've heard that point about Micah not showing up in

1046
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 9: the fourth quarter a couple of times. Just to quickly

1047
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 9: debunk that. Twelve sacks in the fourth quarter of games

1048
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 9: in his career out of forty and a half coming

1049
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 9: into the season, that's thirty percent of his sack So.

1050
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: It's come in the fourth quarter, right right, So I

1051
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: don't know, not really equitable. He's struggling more in the

1052
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: fourth quarter.

1053
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, as a rot, I appreciate you guys

1054
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 8: join us, Tommy, thank you for joining us today.

1055
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: Tom We'll be back tomorrow, tomorrow, all right, Yeah, gotcha.

1056
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, he can show how does the rookie show up

1057
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 8: and not bring food, especially the show where we love food.

1058
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna be back tomorrow.

1059
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 8: We'll talk about the forty nine Ers Cowboys will match up,

1060
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 8: how they will match up, Starting with the forty nine

1061
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 8: Ers offense versus Dallas defense. Tiled in for Nick Harris,

1062
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 8: Tommy Yarsh, Brian brought us on Derek Eaglton. This has

1063
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1064
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1065
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