1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: This is cole Minor. John, this is coal Miner Sale 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: and we. 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Have been digging for stories on the Okay Storytime podcast 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: as long as we can remember saying, and we've found 5 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: some diamonds of the rough, how haven't we? 6 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 3: John? 7 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: That's right? But before we do that, we have to 8 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: wade through two more minutes of incredible ads from our 9 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: sponsors keeping us finding more great stories on the show. 10 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: My fiance's entire family treated us poorly, so we cut 11 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: them all off. Do it? And this is directly from 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: the Arslage Okay Storytime subrote it and also trigger warning 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: for a physical fight. Hello, Okay Storytime fam. Hello, I've 14 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: been watching the channel from back when it was okop. 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: Unfortunately I'm not a memory yet hope to be soon. 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: The last few years have been a struggle financially, so 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: I needed every penny I had. I mean, we just 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: appreciate that you watch us anyway. I love you guys, 19 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 3: and I would appreciate some helpful guidance on this situation. 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: This is a very long story, so bear with me. 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: I twenty six female, am writing this on behalf of 22 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: my fiance twenty five mail as he is now second 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 3: guessing his decision and would like some outside perspective. By 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: the way, this comes from Soggy Locksmith thirty seven, thirty 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: two And if you want to submit your own stories, 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay Storytime Separate it So 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: characters Uncle, fiance's uncle thirty eight male Steven, uncle's kid, 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: fiance's cousin fifteen male aunt, fiance's aunt forty five and 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: female Brian aunt's kid. Fiance's cousin well male Lauren aunts kids, 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: fiance's cousin seven female mother in law fiance's mom forty 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: one female Henry. Oh gosh, mom's kid. Fiance's half brother 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: eight male Sam, mom's kid, fiance's half brother three male, 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh p me twenty six female, Oh There's more, Oh 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: my God. Yachtce twenty five male Bibi op and fiance's 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: child four male only three weeks older than Sam and 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: mother in law's grandson. First, a bit of backstory of 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: the day before the incident, New Year's Eve. We had 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: our own plans for New Year's Eve. Just stay at home, 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: enjoy each other's company and obviously have bibe their kid 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: in the house. Uncle was up from down south. He 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: lives near London, for the New Year. This is the 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: first year he's ever been up for New Year. He 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: came up with his son, Stephen, fiance's cousin. We had 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: gone to mother in law's house earlier in the day 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: as her Christmas present had finally arrived and we wanted 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: to see uncle. We gave the present to mother in law, 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: some photo frames and heart shape magnets with Bibe, mother 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: in law, and sam Bebe's uncle, which she didn't seem 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: to really care about so much for her always saying 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: she likes sentimental stuff. Then some other friends of the 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: family turned up at mother in law's house and she 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: basically proceeded to forget that we were there at all 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: or bebe her grandson. So we left because we felt 54 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: like we were getting the way. Later on in the 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: day aunt of fiance's aunt started messaging Fiance asking what 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: he was doing that night. Fiance obviously said nothing really, 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: just staying at home with op and Beebee then asked 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: him to come down for drinks at mother in law's 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: house or the night. Fiance said no, as he's betting 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: it with me and we have baby in the house. 61 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: Aunt then told fiance that uncle's up. Fiance said, p knows, 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: we've already seen him and he's not leaving me. He 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: did tell Aunt that Uncle could come to our house 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: for a few drinks if he wants, though. Aunt then said, 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: and I quote, you're spending it with family. Nice to 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: know I'm not considered part of the family, even though 67 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: I've been with fiance for eight and a half years 68 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: at this point, and we even have a child together. 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: But that clearly means nothing. Anyway, Fiance said no again 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: and left it at that. Then we went to the 71 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: high Street where they were doing a New Year's parade. 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: The parade usually lasts about one hour. Aunt and uncle 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: arranged to meet each other and the rest of fiance's family, 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: but didn't ask to meet us. We just happened to 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: run into them as they left mother in law's house, 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: so we all went to the parade together. Baby was 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: obsessed with Sam and wanted to stay with him, so 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: we all walked together with the parade. It's at this 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: point that I should mention that Uncle is a heavy drinker, 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: a high functioning one, always has a drink in his 81 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: hand day or night, but still walks and behaves as normal. 82 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: Aunt is also a heavy drinker. And cannot handle her 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: drink at all, becomes very irresponsible and usually looks for 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: a fight. So we're walking at the back of the 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: parade and at some point, Aunt, who was in charge 86 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: of Sam and Henry as mother in law was at work, 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: dumped Sam on me and fiance and said she'd be 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: back in ten minutes. She was running to the shop. Shocker. 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: We didn't see her again until an hour later. End 90 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: of the parade. Uncle kept walking with us, periodically drinking 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: and if you haven't watched Terry Potter and you've seen 92 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: Hermione's bag that can hold everything, that was what a 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: jacket was like, but with beer. The parade finished and 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: we all headed back to mother in law's house. As 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: beat Sam so no choice. We were then stood outside 96 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: until Aunt turned up from wherever she had been, as 97 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: she was the only one with the key. We all 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: went in. The kids went and played in the living room, 99 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: and me, fiance, uncle, and Aunt went into the kitchen. 100 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: For the record, the kids in this house at that 101 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: point are Baby four, male op and fiance's kid, Sam 102 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: three male mother in law's kids, fiance's half brother, Henry eight, 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: male mother in law's kid, fiance's half brother, Brian, twelve, 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: male aunt's kid, fiance's cousin Steven fifteen male uncles kids 105 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: fiance's cousin. Aunt starts asking us to stay for drinks 106 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: since we didn't have any plans. Obviously, we said no 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: because we still have baby. Then Aunt tells us it's fine, 108 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: She's spoken to mother law and said it'd be fine 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 3: if baby stay the night. Then once the boys were settled, 110 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: we'd all go to the pub for one drink. Uncle 111 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: was also agreeing with her. I said, uh, but what 112 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 3: about the kids. They're asked to be an adulton house. 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: They aunt and uncle said it would only be one 114 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: drink and Steven, the fifteen year old, could take care 115 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: of all of them. Take care of a four year old, 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: a three year old, an eight year old. 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: And a twelve year old. Oh my gosh, that is 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: too much. That's a lot of kid and does that 119 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 4: count the baby two? I think baby is four? Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha? 120 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: Oh too young. 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: Obviously I wasn't happy with this, so they changed it 122 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: to staying at the house for drinks instead. We OPI 123 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: and fiance said only if it was okay with mother 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: in law. But we were assured by Aunt that it 125 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: was fine, So we went back to our house to 126 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: grab baby's things to stay overnight and grab a takeaway 127 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: as we hadn't eaten yet and it was almost nine pm. 128 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: We got back to mother in law's house and Aunt 129 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: is walking out the door with a vodka bottle in hand. 130 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: She says she was away to get Lauren, aunt's daughter 131 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: seven female, from Lauren's friend's house, that she'd be back 132 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: in ten minutes. At this point it's nine to fifteen pm, 133 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: and no surprise, she doesn't come back until after eleven. 134 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: She genuinely did go to get her daughter from their 135 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: friend's house. She just stayed at the house and drank 136 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: with her daughter's friends, Sarah, some female mom, Fiona thirty 137 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: five female and then mother in law comes in the 138 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: door from work. We check with her if it's okay 139 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: for baby to stand the night, and if not, we 140 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: just go home. Looking back, I don't think she was 141 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: okay with it. However, on the night she didn't give 142 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: that impression. She kept saying of course, it's fine. We 143 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: had asked her over four times, and once not in 144 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: front of everyone, just in case she was saying yes. 145 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: Because they were all there, but she kept insisting it 146 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 3: was fine, So eventually we give in and I start 147 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: to get Baby ready for bed. I offered to read 148 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: to both boys, Baby and Sam a bedtime story, since 149 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: they'd be sharing a bed together, so it makes sense 150 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: they go to bed at the same time. Right. 151 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Nope. 152 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: Mother in law is adamant that I must put baby 153 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: to bed first and that he needs to be asleep 154 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: before she can put Sam to bed. She also would 155 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: not let me read a bedtime story to them together, 156 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: as Sam likes three stories, not just one. Go I said, 157 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: I can read three stories. It wasn't a problem, but 158 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: I got told to just put baby to bed, so 159 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: I did that. Then ten minutes later, mother in law 160 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: tried to put Sam to bed. I had a feeling 161 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: Baby would wake up when mother in law went in 162 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: as she was going to read the three stories with 163 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: the light onto Sam. Gosh, so I told her if 164 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: baby gets up, to just call me her fiance and 165 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: we'd settle him. And she says, yeah, sure and then 166 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: leaves to put Sam to bed. She never shouts for us, 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: and I send fiance up four times over the next 168 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: hour to check if baby was awake or if mother 169 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: in law needed help. Each time, she told fiance to 170 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: go away, leave her alone, and that she was fine. 171 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: So eventually we just stayed downstairs in the living room, 172 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: figuring she's an adult, she'll tell us if she needs 173 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: us or if baby is awake, especially because she keeps 174 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: sending fiance away. Uncle and the other kids, Stephen, Brian, 175 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: and Henry were play fighting in the living room downstairs, 176 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: which I told them to keep down multiple times as 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: the youngest baby and Sam were trying to sleep. Mother 178 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: in law then comes downstairs and has a go at everyone, 179 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: which is actually fair. Then she goes back upstairs. A 180 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: little while later, I can hear movement upstairs and one 181 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: of the older kids goes to the toilet. When they 182 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: come back, I ask if they saw anyone when they 183 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: were up there, but they said they only saw mother 184 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: in law taking Sam to the toilet. I presume that 185 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: baby was still sleeping since she hadn't said anything and 186 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 3: the older kid had only seen Sam up. Eventually, me, 187 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: fiance and uncle are sitting in the kitchen just talking. 188 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: The other kids are watching TV in the living room. 189 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: Mother in law comes down the stairs at eleven pmsh 190 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: and just tells us to leave already and go to 191 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: the pub. We say, we don't really want to. We 192 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: were gonna have drinks here and spend it all together. Yeah, 193 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: I mean like they're gonna leave at eleven, right, I 194 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: guess that is pup time. 195 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: I don't know, I guess so, but I've just kind 196 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: of assumed that parents. 197 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she said just off to the pop already, 198 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: grabs herself some water and then goes back upstairs. So 199 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 3: we decide, okay, she does not want us here, We'll 200 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: go for one drink and come back. As we're heading 201 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: out of the house, here comes on walking down the 202 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: street with their daughter, Lauren, Lauren's friends Sarah, and Lauren's 203 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: friend's mom. Fiona Aunt asks where we're going, and we 204 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: tell her the pub. She then starts whining things she 205 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: wanted to go. We said we had waited for her, 206 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: but she had been away almost two hours, BLUs she 207 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: had brought Fiona and Sarah. Aunt then turns to Fiona 208 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: and begs her to come to the pub and leave 209 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: Sarah and Lauren at mother in law's house or the record. 210 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: Mother in law has never met Fiona and Sarah and 211 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: does not know them. Sarah then starts begging her mom Fiona, 212 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: not to leave her or go to the pub at all. 213 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: We say it's fine, we'll stay at the house. We 214 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: didn't really want to go to the pub anyway. Then 215 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: Aunt changes her mind and says she'll stay at mother 216 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: in law's house with Fiona, the kids and brings and 217 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: bring in the bells with mother in law right because 218 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: it's New Year's. This is a chaotic New Year's dude, 219 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: it really is. Man, what a way to start off 220 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: the new year. Yeah, I mean we're almost at I 221 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: guess I was like wondering, I forgot that it was 222 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: New Year's and I was wondering why everyone was up 223 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: so late. Oh ye. We ask if she's sure, and 224 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 3: she's like, yeah, it's totally fine, and then she, Fiona, 225 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: and the kids go into mother in law's house. So 226 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: we ope, fiance and uncle leave and head for the pub, 227 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: a ten minute walk from mother in law's house. We 228 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: get to the pub and order a drink each. You 229 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: start drinking them and talking when there's a tap on 230 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: our shoulder. We turn around to see Aunt standing right 231 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: behind us. Only Aunt. She then proceeds to order a drink. 232 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: We ask what she's doing there, and she says she 233 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: changed her mind. We asked if Fiona went home with 234 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: her daughter Sarah. 235 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: Nope. 236 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: Aunt ditched them in mother in law's kitchen, and we're like, 237 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: what the f She just like was in the house 238 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: with them and then dipped. Yeah. She was like, okay, 239 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: you guys stay there. Huh. So we put our drinks 240 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: down and tell her we have to go back. It's 241 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: not fair to Fiona or mother in law. She agrees, 242 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: and it takes a bit of forceful coaching from Uncle 243 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: to get her to leave. We start heading back to 244 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: mother in law's when Aunt spots some more people she 245 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: knows across the street and makes a bee line for them, 246 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: leaving us behind. Uncle followed her across the street. He 247 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: reminded her we have to go. She then proceeds to 248 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: leave with the other people to go back to the 249 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,479 Speaker 3: pub and shouts bye bye to us in a childish 250 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: sing song voice while laughing this girl he's bad at parenting. Yeah. Like, 251 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: she literally just like left her kid and her kid's 252 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: friend and mom. Yeah, and was like, okay, I'm going 253 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: to the pub now bye. I have been So we're 254 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: like ef it, forget about her and head back to 255 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 3: mother in law's. Fionna is standing in the kitchen smoking 256 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: out the back door. Sarah and Lauren are both in 257 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: the kitchen. Me, fiance and uncle joined them in the kitchen. 258 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: The older kids are still in the living room, and 259 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: mother in law is still upstairs. At this point, it's 260 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: like eleven forty pm. We talked with Fiona for five 261 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: minutes before she leaves with Sarah and Lauren to go 262 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: to the high Street for the bells. Uncle takes all 263 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: the older kids to the high Street for the bells. 264 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: Me and fiance opt to stay at mother in law's 265 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: to bring in the bells with her. He gets to 266 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: midnight and Fiance goes up to talk to his mom. 267 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: She tells him to f Off, I don't want to 268 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: see you. I don't want to speak to you right now. 269 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Just f off. 270 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: Girl is not having a good New Year's eat. She 271 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: just needs to be left alone. Yeah, she could do 272 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: what she wants. Bally, We're not gonna talk to you 273 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: and yet. 274 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're kid home too. Yeah. She then 275 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: shut her bedroom door in Fiance's face, so Fiance comes 276 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: back downstairs. He didn't even have to tell me what 277 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: she said. As I could hear her she shouted it 278 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: at him, So we're feeling very uncomfortable as we sat 279 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: in the kitchen. Mother in law then comes down the 280 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: stairs for a sig A little while later, doesn't say 281 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: a word to us. As she comes back in, she says, 282 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: if you weren't here, I'd never have been put in 283 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: this situation. We try to talk to her again and 284 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: she just interrupts us, saying, I don't want to see 285 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: you or speak to you until tomorrow. Get out, and 286 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: with that she goes back up the stairs. So I'm 287 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: feeling incredibly guilty. I've no idea what she's talking about 288 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: or how it's all our fault. All I want is 289 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: to take my son and fiance and go home. Obviously, 290 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: baby is asleep, and if I go get him, i'd 291 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: wake Sam, which would make mother in law even angrier. 292 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: So we decided to stay awake at her kitchen table. 293 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: It was currently twelve fifteen am, and as soon as 294 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: it's seven am, we'd take baby and leave. I also 295 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: cleaned her kitchen of all opened, slash, half eaten food, booze, 296 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: and dishes. I then cleaned her living room of all 297 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: the toys that baby and Sam had played with just 298 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: any little thing I could do to help and not 299 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: make her so angry. Uncle comes back and sits at 300 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: the table with us. The older kids go into the 301 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: living room to watch a movie. Aunt then comes in 302 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: the door at twelve twenty am. She's not quiet and 303 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: slams the door. We tell her to keep it down. 304 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: She ignores us. Ask swhere fiones. We said she'd gone 305 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: back to her house with Sarah and Lauren. Aunt then 306 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: grabs more booze and leaves the house, slamming the door again. 307 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: Mother in law comes down, pissed off, telling us to 308 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: keep it down, and we're like, we're trying. Beyance says 309 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: he's shattered and can't stay awake. So we decide to 310 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: go home and come back first thing in the morning 311 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: to get baby. As we're leaving, guess who's walking down 312 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: the street towards the house Aunt with Lauren. Lauren is 313 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: in tears and crying. An is shouting about how Fiona 314 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: is a witch and nobody likes her anyway. We decided 315 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: to stay to help calm Louren down and keep Aunt quiet, 316 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: to not anger mother in law further, I can soole 317 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: Lauren as best as I can. She then goes into 318 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: the living room with the older kids and cries into 319 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: her brother's arms. Why is mom like this? 320 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 321 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: Her brother Brian just hugs her, telling her that it 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: will be all right. Aunt is raging in the kitchen, 323 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: except now it's about our missing phone. She's lost it. 324 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: We ask her if she left it at Fiona's house, 325 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: but she says that which won't have it. We're trying 326 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: to explain maybe she left it on a table or something, 327 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: or if it fell out of her pocket when she 328 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: was walking back. We look on five three sixty the 329 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: family Tracking app and it says it was just outside 330 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: the house but wasn't connected to the internet. Aunt then 331 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: demands us to phone it. We explain we can't because 332 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: we don't have her number and it's not connected to 333 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: the internet to be able to do it through messenger. 334 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: We had to explain this to her five times. Eventually 335 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: we gave up and Uncle went out to look for 336 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: her phone on the street with Aunt turn it was 337 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: in her coat pocket the whole time, the coach she 338 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: was wearing. Of course, this woman sounds exhausting. Yeah, oh 339 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: my goodness, I would not want to go to any 340 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: family function that she was at. Do you have any 341 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: thoughts about what you can do to manage this this 342 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: like nightmare of a New Year's or just like your 343 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: family going forward to take a little a brief sojourn 344 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: or a brief intermission. 345 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even know, because I just when people 346 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: get like wild and crazy like this, you just like 347 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: you just can't. Yeah, you can't reason with them, can't 348 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: make them any less insane, you know, Like ah, I 349 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: just feel like you just have to stay away from them, 350 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: or like, you know, just be like. 351 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: Okay, there she goes again. 352 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: But like it's hard when it's family, you know what 353 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: I mean. Yeah, that's hard to do. That sucks that 354 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: the kids are are, you know, feeling it too and 355 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: not liking how this ant is reacting. And I honestly 356 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: don't know how you would like stop that person from 357 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: being like that. 358 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: I I have no idea. The thing is like, you 359 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 3: can't communicate with an unreasonable person. Yeah, so you could 360 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: try and have a conversation with her and say like, hey, 361 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: this behavior is pretty upsetting for your kids and for us. Yeah, 362 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: but like I don't think she'll listen to that. Yeah, 363 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: in which case it's just kind of like limiting being 364 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: around her when you can, but also like trying to 365 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: have that relationship with your your nieces and nephews. 366 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: Still, yeah, it's tricky. It's very tricky. 367 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: She then decides to leave again and go to another 368 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: friend's house, Danny's. Danny's whole family are longtime friends of 369 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: fiance's family. Uncle comes back into mother in law's house. 370 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: Uncle then gets a phone call from Danny, but turns 371 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: out it is Aunt using Danny's phone and begging him 372 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 3: to come to Danny's house. Uncle says nope and hangs up. 373 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: Seems like the. 374 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: Uncle's chill, which is good. Yeah, that's good. 375 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: Aunt does the same thing using Danny's phone and phone's 376 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: fiance is saying the same thing. Beyonce hangs up on 377 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: her mid sentence. Then ten minutes later, fiance gets another 378 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: call from Danny. This time it's actually Danny, and she 379 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: says they're welcome to go over if they want, and 380 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: that some family members of Danny's are over visiting and 381 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: fiance and uncle haven't seen them in years. I offer 382 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: to stay at mother in law's house if they wanted 383 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: to go and have a catch up with those family friends. 384 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: They had just come to the decision to go when 385 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: the front door slams open and Aunt comes back, shouting 386 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: uncle and fiance's names. She's come to take them to 387 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: Danny's and she wasn't gonna take no for an answer. 388 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: Aunt was told to keep it down by all three 389 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: of us, and she says, who cares. Mother in law 390 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: then comes down the stairs angrily whisper shouting at Aunt, 391 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 3: get the f out of my house before I hit you, 392 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 3: and don't come back. Uncle and fiance get her out 393 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: and go to Danny's. Mother in law comes back upstairs. 394 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: Then five minutes later, it's about one forty am. Mother 395 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: in law comes running down the stairs, phone in hand, 396 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: shouting where is the uncle. I tell her he's gone 397 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 3: Danny's with fiance and Aunt. Just then fiance barges through 398 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: the front door, shouting I'm not being done. I'm having 399 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: done with this, mamly. His mom then turns to him 400 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: and says, it's your own fault. Fiance then shouts Aunt 401 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: hit me across the face with her shoe. Then Uncle shoved, punted, 402 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: and the old one too. Oh my god. Mother in 403 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: law says it's karma. You deserved it. You shouldn't have 404 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: shoved aunt. Uncle was only protecting Aunt. Never mind, the 405 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: uncle does not seem chill. I was livid at this point. 406 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: So Aunt had been shouting outside and wouldn't keep it down. 407 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: Fiance had told her to be quiet and to shut 408 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: up multiple times. Aunt then started calling Fiance horrible names bester, ale, wiener, head, 409 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: et cetera for talking back to her. Fiance told her 410 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: to stop, as there was no need for it. She 411 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: then said, I'll hit you. Then she did with her shoe, 412 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: which she had been walking in all night so it 413 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: was dirty and wet as it had been raining. Fiance 414 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: then shoved her heart after she hit him, and because 415 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: she weigs nothing and was off balanced because she was intoxicated, 416 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: she went sprawling across the car park is outside mother 417 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: in law's house. Uncle then shoved and the old one 418 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 3: tued and punted Fiance, saying you never hit a woman. 419 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: Then Fiance came in the house, so obviously I said 420 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: it was self defense from fiance and he didn't hit her, 421 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: just shoved her away. And mother in law says Fiance 422 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: never shut up, laid hands on her at all, and 423 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: I thought, ohpe, he shoved her far too hard, and 424 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: I'm like what and aud didn't hit him across the 425 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: face hard. It's not okay to hurt someone just because 426 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: she's older and his family. Uh, and what uncle did 427 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: was definitely uncalled for. So fiance said, we're leaving, We're 428 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: taking baby and leaving, and mother in law says, no, 429 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: you're not, You're not taking baby. Then physically stands on 430 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: the staircase blocking her axis and shoves fiance back when 431 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: he tries to get past. She then tells us to 432 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: get him in the morning. I insist on getting her son, 433 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: as I am no longer comfortable leaving him with fiance's family. 434 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 3: Mother in law would not let either of us passed, 435 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 3: insisting we will get him in the morning, and it's 436 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: not fair to wake baby up and Sam up at 437 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: this time two am. Then outside mother in law's house, 438 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 3: mother in law is once again telling fiance that it's 439 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: karma and it's his own fault, that she had an 440 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: awful night and nobody cared about her or checked to 441 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: see if she was okay, and as far as she's concerned, 442 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: we all decire for what we got that night. She 443 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: launches into I had to take care of your son 444 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: and my son. I'm not saying it's a problem, but 445 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: he's your son, not mine. Is this all on New 446 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: Year's Eve? So much is happening right now. This is 447 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: the longest night. He didn't go to sleep until eleven 448 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: forty five pm. I had to take care of him. 449 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: I had to take him to the toilet, change his 450 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: nap because he pooed, and take care of Sam. Nobody 451 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: thought about me. Maybe I wanted to get out, And 452 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: what will my neighbors think of everything tonight? I don't 453 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: even want to talk to you or see you. The 454 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: amount of times that people asked if you needed help 455 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: or if you needed them to take care of the babies. 456 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: And I'm like, if i'd known baby was up at all, 457 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: and especially at that time, i'd have handled him and 458 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: taken him home. And it's not like we didn't check. 459 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: She kept telling us to f off, and now she 460 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: won't even let me dig my son home. We obviously 461 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: don't get anywhere with mother in law. She's just blaming 462 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: the whole situation on fiance. We go home, fiance passes 463 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 3: out of sleep. I stay up all night because I 464 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: can't sleep knowing my son is with those people. Mother 465 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: in law eventually messages at seven forty am saying that 466 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: baby was awake. She messaged fiance's phone, so I didn't 467 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: see it straight away. I saw it at seven fifty 468 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: am and message we're on our way, And she then 469 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: messaged two minutes later saying she had put him back 470 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: to bed. So I'm livid she knew I wanted to 471 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: get him straight away. And then you say, I don't care. 472 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: I don't freaking care that's my kid. I'm gonna call 473 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: the police if you don't give me my kid. Yeah. Literally, 474 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: we're in the grounds for no contact here or very 475 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: very late in contact. I mean this physical assault. And 476 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: also she's like keeping your kid is blaming you being 477 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: like your fiance being attacked on him. 478 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 479 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: She keeps saying like I'm so done with this family. 480 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: You're not gonna talk to you again. 481 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm good, good, I don't want to talk to you. 482 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: Like finally she's she's making the decision. 483 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so me and fiance head down in my car 484 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: at eight fifteen am to get him. We're sat in 485 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: the car outside mother in law's house, phoning mother in 486 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: law to say we're here, as she wanted to hand 487 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: him over at the door. Beyonce really didn't want any 488 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: contact with Uncle Laurant. We phoned four times, no answer, 489 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: gave it fifteen minutes, phoned a few more times nothing. 490 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: Fiance said to give it another ten minutes. He didn't 491 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: want to wake anyone up because he was still trying 492 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: to be nice. It gets to eight forty five am 493 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 3: and we call a few more times, still nothing. We 494 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 3: walk around the house to see if anyone is up 495 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: and if the door would be open. We can see 496 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: the older kids up in the kitchen, but no adults. 497 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: Fiance wants to give it more time, but at this 498 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: point it's nine am, and I'm like, it's a reasonable 499 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: hour to wake anyone up, and if we don't go 500 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: into the house and get baby, then I'll phone the 501 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: police to get him and everyone will be awake anyway. 502 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: At this point, she has had my child since last 503 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: night and was not physically allowing us to get them. 504 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: Fiance knows I'm serious, so we go in as the 505 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: front door is open. I say hi to the older 506 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: kids and ask if any of the adults are up. 507 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: They say uncle is sleeping, mother in law is sleeping, 508 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: and aunt just came in an hour ago and is 509 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: passed out. Dang, she like she was out all night wild. 510 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: So fiance sneaks upstairs to get baby, who was not 511 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: back asleep but was playing with toys in the dark 512 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: bedroom and a soiled nappy while mother in law and 513 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 3: Sam were still sleeping. So fiance brings baby down and 514 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: I've grabbed his bag, coat, and shoes. Fiance then goes 515 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: back upstairs and sneaks around the room to grab baby, 516 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: Sucky's cuddly toys, pillows, and dummy. He comes back down 517 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: without waking any of the adults and we f off 518 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: home and never speak to them again. Edit. This was 519 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: the straw that broke the camel's back. There are other 520 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: things over the years, and we've had enough. That was 521 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: a pretty big straw. Yeah, I'm you know. We read conversation, 522 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: we read stories where there's no communication and then you 523 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: just cut contact. This is not one of them. This 524 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: is a crazy, crazy family. Yeah, And you don't have 525 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: to deal with them. Don't put up with them, not 526 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: at all this year alone. End of June, Beyonce's grandparents 527 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: are up from down South, and them plus aunt's family 528 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 3: plus mother in law's family go on days out for 529 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: family meals at restaurants. We asked ahead of time if 530 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: there were any plans, and we're told no. Then fiance 531 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: will look on his family tracking app and notice they 532 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: have fed off, and when he confronts them, it's always 533 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: the same. It was a last minute decision or we 534 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 3: weren't sure you'd come. We never refused ever, and they 535 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: could have messaged or asked. Then there was the bonfire 536 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: night this year. We asked if there was any plans 537 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: to meet up, got told there everyone was doing their 538 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: own thing. So we went to McDonald's and as we 539 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: pulled up, who were all in there enjoying time together. 540 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: Mother in law's family, aunt's family, and his grandparents. Beyonce 541 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: obviously said something to them. They brushed it off and 542 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: told us to sit with them. Then they left before 543 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: our food even arrived. Then there was baby's birthday this year. 544 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: Not one of fiance's family wished baby a happy birthday. 545 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: My family was messaging me since six am saying happy 546 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: birthday to baby. My brother even messaged as soon as 547 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: he got up for work he was working night shift, 548 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 3: and not one message from fiance's family. I then sent 549 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: videos photos of baby's birthday at the carnival on my 550 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: family chat and everyone was interacting and stuff. Then fiance 551 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 3: told me to post it on his family chat, so 552 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: I did. Keep in mind, none of them have said 553 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: happy birthday at all we got was a thumbs up 554 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 3: emoji from fiance's granddad. Even the next day, New Year's Eve, 555 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: when we were at mother in law's house, she wasn't 556 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: interested in how her only grandchild's birthday was. And that's 557 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: just this year. This type of stuff has been going 558 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: on since I first met my fiance eight and a 559 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: half years ago. I mean, yeah, this is your your 560 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: family is or his family is just really really whack 561 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 3: not so yeah, yeah, like I think this is you know, 562 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: you can try and have a really limited relationship with them, 563 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: but I think unfortunately you have to get rid of 564 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 3: the expectation that they are going to do anything to 565 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 3: you or try and involve you in any way. Yeah, 566 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: because they clearly just like don't care about you in 567 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: the way that you've been trying to care about them. 568 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 3: And I think it's just like time, you know, you 569 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: can focus on your own family ope mm hm h 570 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: and your extended family on your side because they clearly 571 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: care about you. Guys, yeah, and just just put some 572 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: distance between your fiance's family. 573 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's not worth it, not worth it at all. 574 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: Mother in law would always leave fiance in his room 575 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: and go out to dinner or days out with her 576 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: long term boyfriend and Henry, their son, fiance's half brother, 577 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: and not tell fiance. Fiance would go downstairs, not knowing 578 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: that they had gone, and phone to ask where they 579 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: were and be told they're having family time, and defend 580 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 3: for himself. When my fiance was eighteen and stayed with 581 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: her and her long term boyfriend, he would transfer his 582 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: mom money one hundred pounds a month. Eventually, this led 583 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: to conflict between my fiance and his mom's boyfriend, as 584 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: his mom's boyfriend owned the house and was accusing fiance 585 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: of not paying the full amount. Fiance had to show 586 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 3: his mom's boyfriend his bank statements to prove he had 587 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: been paying. Yeah, he's giving them like one hundred dollars 588 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: and he's like, dude, I'm literally paying you on hundred dollars. 589 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 3: Why are you complaining? Yeah? Yeah. Turns out mother in 590 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: law had been taking some of fiance's money for herself 591 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: and not transferring the full amount on. Of course, she was. 592 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: This wasn't the only thing that she had done to 593 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: cause the relationship between my fiance and his mom's boyfriend 594 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: to break down, which resulted in him getting punted out 595 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: more than once until I rented a flat at eighteen 596 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: and offered for him to move in. We dated just 597 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: over a year before moving in together. There have been 598 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: times where Aunt has been irresponsible and fiance would receive 599 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: calls off his mom begging him to go to aunt's 600 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: house and stay there until Aunt came home, usually intoxicated, 601 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: so there was an adult in the house. Even if 602 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: fiance had work at five am, it didn't matter. Mother 603 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: in law cry on the phone to him, saying, please 604 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: help your mother. I can't go because of your brothers 605 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: and families meant to help family except when fiance needs help. 606 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: Of course. Of course, of course, this happens several times, 607 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: including when I was pregnant. The day we found out 608 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: the gender of our baby, we were at aunt's house 609 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: until two am looking after her kids because she decided 610 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: to just go out. Oh my goodness, this aunt is 611 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: a terrible mother, honestly neglectful, even marry neglectful. I mean, 612 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: she's going out all hours of the night and drinking 613 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: and not leaving her kids with random people. 614 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. 615 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: So, Yeah, they're selfish and we don't need people like 616 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: that in our lives. Fionce deserves better. He is worth 617 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: way more than how they make him feel. He is 618 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: sadly convinced himself at times that he's adopted, as in 619 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: his mind, this is the only logical reason his family 620 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: doesn't appear to care or leave him out of everything. 621 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: I think a better way to think about that is like, 622 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: maybe you're adopted because you're the only sane person here. Yeah. Yeah, Honestly, 623 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: it breaks my heart to hear him talk about it 624 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: self like this, and I remind him how much he's 625 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: left by me, our son and my family. My family 626 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: and I are in full support of fiance and know 627 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: he deserves so much better. He means the world to us, 628 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: and there is no way I am letting babies suffer the 629 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: same as fiance has. It stops now. Mother in law 630 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: also chucked it in our faces that she bends up 631 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: her back where it's to help us out with childcare 632 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: so I can work. She hasn't elp since April twenty 633 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: twenty four. Mother in law goes five months, if not 634 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: more at a time without seeing baby, her grandson, talking 635 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: to him, or even asking us how he is. She 636 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: doesn't care, and it's so obvious she only cares when 637 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: somebody asks her about her grandchild. It's all about appearances. 638 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: But you know what can appear on your Spotify, Apple 639 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: podcast or iHeartRadio. What full episodes of stories just like this, 640 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: just look up okay, story time, no way, But there 641 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: is a little bit left to the story, I mean, 642 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: final thoughts. 643 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: It's sad, but it's necessary that this separation kind of 644 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: needs to happen a little bit. You know, maybe you 645 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 4: could do things here and there for like family events 646 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 4: or for like the nieces and nephews like birthdays or something. 647 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you can. 648 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: You can take them out for special occasions, because I'm 649 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: sure that's probably the saddest part about yeah, the disconnectationship. Yeah, 650 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: but at the same time, it's like this is not 651 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: gonna be good for your mental health. 652 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: No, so no. And also safety, yeah, you know if 653 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: true husband got attacked. Yeah, there's a little bit left 654 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: to the story. Also, like I say, we don't use 655 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: her for childcare, and the few times that she offered 656 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: and we accepted at the start of the year. She 657 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: now throws in our face and says we never offer, 658 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: which we did, but she always says no, And eventually 659 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: we told her to tell us if she wants to help, 660 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: because we're sick of being told no, but she just 661 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: throws it in our faces and calls us ungrateful. I 662 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: have since removed both mother in law and aunt off 663 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: the collection list and emergency contacts for our son at nursery. 664 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: There have been so I'm updated since this incident, which 665 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: I can add if you would like. Hence why fiance 666 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: is second guessing himself and wondering if he has gone 667 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: over the top by cutting them all off. So am 668 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: I the angle for going no contact with my fiance's 669 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: whole family and cutting them out of our lives? Was 670 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: our answer, big old no, absolutely not. You do not 671 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: deserve this treatment. Just be around the people who support 672 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: you and love you, and show that support and love 673 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: and don't expect it's not just one side it like 674 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: they expect all this stuff from you and then don't 675 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: actually show up. 676 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely you are worth more than that. 677 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: Sam. 678 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: Here we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's 679 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: three of its bads from our sponsors. 680 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: My boyfriend's friend ruined my designer bag. I'm considering legal actions. 681 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm about to legally throw you in jail for that. 682 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: What I'll try to keep it short and sweet. I 683 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: recently bought an authentic designer purse. I realized the pri 684 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: which I have to do so, but I work an 685 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: extremely demanding job that requires I work very long hours 686 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 3: and get compensated well to do so. It's something I've 687 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: wanted my entire life, and I've finally reached a point 688 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: where i could afford to do it. By the way, 689 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: this comes from Catdog and that is twenty two And 690 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: if you want to smit your own stories, go to 691 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: the r slash. Okay, storytime supparate it's not super relevant. 692 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: But I grew up poor, so in a way it 693 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: was cathartic for me to buy something frivolous that I 694 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: really wanted, which is partially why it means so much 695 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: to me. I've had this purse less than a month 696 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: and I've only worn it out twice, once to a 697 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: work event and once to a nice dinner we went 698 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: on with my boyfriend and his friends this last weekend. 699 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: We were hanging. 700 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: Out at my boyfriend's friend's house after the dinner, and 701 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: I hung my purse on the chair behind me. At 702 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: this point I trusted everyone in the house and wasn't 703 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: really concerned about it. We've all been hanging out for 704 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: years now. We moved to another room right next to 705 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: the one we were in to play a game. When 706 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: I came back, my purse was right where I left 707 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: it when we left for the night. I grabbed it 708 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: and thought it felt heavier, but didn't look inside of 709 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: it until I went to unload it when we got home. 710 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: For some reason, if someone thought it would be funny 711 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: to put uncovered red yellow shots into my purse with 712 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 3: a white interior, where they proceeded to leak the entire 713 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 3: inside with stained a splotchy pink shade. And to say 714 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: I was livid is an understatement. We're all between thirty 715 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: to sixty. We have some older folks that are family 716 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: friends of people in the group who hang out with 717 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: us sometimes, so everyone is old enough to not do 718 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: something so stupid. I attempted to clean it, to no avail. 719 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: My boyfriend reached out to the group chat that I 720 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: was about half of his friends in it and asked 721 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: if anyone knew who'd done it. One person admitted they 722 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 3: saw someone do it and told us who it was. 723 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: One of the older members of the group who's known 724 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: for messing with people's belongings, but never to this degree. 725 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: For example, when we went swimming last summer, he filled 726 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: the pockets of my shorts up with Chex mix. It 727 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: was annoying, but didn't really damage anything. Also, no one 728 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: really finds his antics funny. 729 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 5: Well, that's some personal problem, because that was hilarious Chex 730 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 5: mixed pocket. 731 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: I'm fully on board with that. 732 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's common sense to refrain from putting 733 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: red goo that turns liquity when warm into a white bag. 734 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: But he claims that he was just being funny and 735 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 3: didn't think it would leak. I asked him for money 736 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: to either repair the bag or replace it, and he 737 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 3: claims he does not have that much money. He says 738 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: the bag look cheap, so he didn't think it would 739 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: be a big deal even if the shots had lead. 740 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: I know that he has ample assets, multiple sports cars, 741 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: a million dollar home, et cetera, and can find a 742 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 3: way to compensate for what he damaged. When I pointed 743 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: this out. He told me that it was my fault 744 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: for bringing around an expensive bag and that something could 745 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: have easily been spilled on it instead. Wow, I would 746 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: have been upset if that had been the case. Obviously, 747 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been anywhere near as upset. Because this 748 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 3: has been done intentionally and is now being blamed on me, 749 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: I can take responsibility and say I shouldn't have left 750 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: it out of my sight, but I knew no one 751 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: in the house would steal it or the contents in it, 752 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: and I never would have thought someone would fill it 753 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: with sticky red goo, regardless of how expensive or cheap 754 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 3: it was. I told him that he needed to define 755 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: the money or I would be suing him for the damages, 756 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: and a couple of people in the group think I'm 757 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: going too far. My boyfriend is thankfully as angry as 758 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 3: I am, and I don't want the situation to come 759 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 3: at the cost of any of his friendships. But I 760 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: all so want to be compensated for my property that 761 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: I worked my butt off for. Would I be the 762 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 3: ale if I take legal action or should I try 763 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: some other method to recoup my losses? I personally don't 764 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: think so, because this wasn't an accident, but some people 765 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 3: think I'm going too nuclear and there is an update. 766 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: I had my appointment to have the bag looked at. 767 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 3: They would be able to mostly repair it. However, it's 768 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 3: likely that the liquid seep through the lining and may 769 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 3: have damaged the bag beyond repair. They wouldn't know until 770 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 3: they really got into it. Even so, the smell of 771 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: crusty old jello and liquor would likely linger and deteriorate 772 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 3: any resell value the purse may have in the future. 773 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: For these reasons, I will be going after him for 774 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 3: the entire value of the purse. Thank you to the 775 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: person who mentioned that this could hurt resell value in 776 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: the future. I didn't even think of this. I asked 777 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 3: the person that looked at it, and she told me 778 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: the severity of the staining and odor definitely would. Thankfully, 779 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 3: it is not a limited edition bag and I can 780 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: currently buy anyone. Hopefully that this doesn't change anytime soon, 781 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: as I really love my bag. I am going to 782 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: reach out to my attorney in the morning to see 783 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: if he can help me or refer me to someone 784 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 3: who can. I can't update again with what they say, 785 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure I have a strong leg to 786 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 3: stand on. To answer some questions, why don't I punt 787 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: this guy for the friend group? Easiest answer here is 788 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: that it isn't my friend group. The man is a 789 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 3: family friend of one of my boyfriend's friends. He truthfully 790 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: isn't around much, but it seems like whenever he is, 791 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 3: he causes problems, so I'm not sure why he's still 792 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: invited even occasionally. My boyfriend and I made it clear 793 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 3: we would never be in the same place as him 794 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 3: ever again, which kind of puts the ball in everyone 795 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: else's court. Does he not like you? Or does he 796 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: torment everyone? He has a weird fixation with me mostly, 797 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: but he does also torment most of the women in 798 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: the group. I mentioned this in the comments, but it 799 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 3: may have gotten buried. But during my first interaction with him, 800 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 3: I had left my phone out while I had quickly 801 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 3: gone to the bathroom. At some point, he snatched my 802 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 3: phone up once somewhere else else, took a picture of 803 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 3: his butt, and replaced my phone in the same spot. 804 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 3: I found the pictures a few hours later when I 805 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 3: opened my camera roll to show someone my dog, and 806 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 3: my boyfriend asked me, horrified why I had a hairy 807 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: butt in my phone. I was mortified and had no explanation, 808 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 3: and it wasn't until this man was hammered that he 809 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: admitted he did it. We were all disgusted and he 810 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: stopped being invited for a while because my boyfriend refused 811 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: to be around him. Last year, he started being invited 812 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 3: again and immediately started pranking me in harmless ways. He 813 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: likes to do this with new girlfriends, especially, I noticed, 814 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 3: and I am one of the newest in the friend group, 815 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: even though it's been a few years now. One of 816 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 3: my boyfriend's friends started dating a new girl and she 817 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: got a similar treatment, but nothing as severe. He really 818 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: likes to tamper with our clothes mostly. I hate that. 819 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: I don't know what the motive is, but he doesn't 820 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: usually mess with the guys, just the women. Yeah, did 821 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: he steal anything? 822 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 4: No. 823 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 3: As I mentioned, he's wealthy and I don't think he'd 824 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 3: really do anything like that. He doesn't seem like the 825 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: type to get a thrill from theft. Rather he wants 826 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: to annoy women. I only kept my credit card, a 827 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 3: small amount of cash, par keys, and a sentimental keychain 828 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 3: in the bag. Everything was sticky and coated, in good 829 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 3: but everything was also their small edit. Also, all the people, 830 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: all of your friends, quote unquote, who think that you're 831 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 3: going overboard by wanting to sue him when he's behaved 832 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: like after the booty pick, well, she should never have 833 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 3: come back after that. 834 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 5: It's just like such a weird thing to take a 835 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 5: stance on when it's like his reaction should clearly be like, 836 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 5: oh my god, it ruined your bag. 837 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe I did this. 838 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, Like that was, oh my god, such 839 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 5: a dumb I'm so dumb for that. 840 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 841 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and let me fix it. Let me do this, 842 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: Let me how do I make this? 843 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 3: Fat? 844 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: Do I fix this? 845 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: A lot of people have taken to accusing my boyfriend 846 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: of some nasty things, setting this up, not defending me, 847 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 3: being spineless, et cetera. I just wanted to take a 848 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: second to say none of this is true and is 849 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 3: mentioned throughout the posts. The first instance of this man 850 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 3: being weird, my boyfriend screamed at him about how what 851 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: he had done to me was awful, whether or not 852 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: he saw it as a joke. We left immediately after, 853 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 3: and he told his friends that he did not want 854 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 3: to be invited when that man was around. It took 855 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: several years for it to blow over and for his 856 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 3: friends to attempt to have us all together again for 857 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 3: a birthday party. My boyfriend made it clear that if 858 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 3: he ever did anything to harm me again, that would 859 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: be it, and he promised he wouldn't. After all of 860 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 3: that situation, the offender did calm down towards me a 861 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 3: lot until now, which is why I didn't feel that 862 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: worried about him and comfortable leaving my purse out of 863 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: my sight for thirty minutes. My boyfriend not physically attacking 864 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 3: this man is in him being spineless. It's him being 865 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 3: mature and realizing that hurting him was only going to 866 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 3: result in him getting charges that would impact his career 867 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 3: in life. How that this has all happened, my boyfriend 868 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: has defended me and said we will do everything we 869 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: need in order to get me a new purse. It 870 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 3: was me that was worried about it, causing him to 871 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: lose friends, as I know this group is very important 872 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: to him. Consensus not the a hole and Obie says 873 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 3: it was twenty eight hundred dollars. My understanding is if 874 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 3: it can be clean, costs would be around four hundred dollars. 875 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 3: If it cannot repairs, could be anywhere from seven hundred dollars. 876 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 3: It just needing to be replaced. I am taking it 877 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: into being looked at tonight and I'll have a more 878 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 3: solid answer. If the liquids spilled in the car, I'm 879 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 3: shocked it didn't because they were borderline liquid by the 880 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 3: time I found them. The fact it didn't soak through 881 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: the exterior of the bag or on the friend's furniture 882 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: or in our cars shocking, but speaks to the quality 883 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 3: of the interior of the pack. Expost An attorney says 884 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: she needs proof he did it for small claims court 885 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 3: him responding to my text claiming he put jello shots 886 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 3: in a purse suffice, he refused to acknowledge it was 887 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: my specific purse via text, just kept saying that he 888 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 3: put them in a cheap looking purse and refused to 889 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 3: acknowledge that it was mine or brand. It's unfortunately not 890 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 3: my group to exclude him from, but after this I 891 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 3: won't be present when he's around. I always felt gross 892 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 3: about him because of his tricks. When I first started 893 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 3: coming around, I had left my phone on the table 894 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 3: when I went to and we already found out about 895 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: the butt picture. 896 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: You're like, I refuse to talk about that ever again. 897 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 3: After that, we avoided him like the plague, until this 898 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 3: last summer, where he yet again targeted me, but in 899 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 3: a much milder way. We've seen him once or twice since, 900 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: and he didn't do anything to me or my stuff, 901 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 3: so I was hoping he had scaled back. He wasn't 902 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: supposed to be there this weekend. He wasn't invited to 903 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: the dinner, but sure enough he came after and was 904 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 3: acting normal, so I thought I was safe. Fries. My 905 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 3: boyfriend doesn't even care for the guy and would never 906 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: want to see something I care a lot about and 907 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: spent a ton on get damaged. Somebody says the purse 908 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 3: wasn't even that expensive, because since it wasn't thirty thousand dollars, 909 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 3: is this person the billionaire and not? 910 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that person is just broke. 911 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 3: Twenty eight hundred is a lot when you work your 912 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 3: butt off. That he's married, though I've never met his wife, 913 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 3: so she could be made up, but I doubt it. 914 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 3: I can only assume she enjoys the money he brings 915 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 3: in and ignores the fact that he's a jack butt, 916 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,479 Speaker 3: or maybe she's the same way. Who knows. Somebody says 917 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 3: the boyfriend and the prankster have an affair. Okay, a 918 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 3: lot of the crazy accusations have been made about my 919 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 3: boyfriend here, but this is the craziest. My boyfriend does 920 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: not have any close relationship with this guy, let alone 921 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 3: some secret rendezvous. I'm also very confident that my partner 922 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 3: isn't attracted to the same gender. But even on the 923 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 3: off chance that I somehow entirely miss gage is spicy 924 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 3: related identity in the several years we've been together, and 925 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't imagine he would have been having spicy relations 926 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 3: with an overweight, immature, stinky, fifty year old man. For 927 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 3: this theory to shake out, he must also be sleeping 928 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 3: with another man in the friend group, as he had 929 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: bullied another girlfriend in a similar manner. He had taken 930 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: and hit her phone and made her think she lost 931 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 3: it once she panicked for a while searching, he gave 932 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 3: it back. 933 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 5: In what way could that have given him positive reinforcement? Yeah, 934 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 5: everyone stared at me in an awkward silence as I 935 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 5: gave her phone backed, and then just generally moved on. 936 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: And tried to ignore what I had done. 937 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 3: I got a quote for repair, but it was likely futile, 938 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 3: as the smell of cheap liquor would likely remain, even 939 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: if only faintly. Additionally, as a kind commetter pointed out, 940 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 3: doing so drastically effects resell value should I ever choose 941 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 3: to sell it. For these reasons, I was pursuing him 942 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 3: for replacement purse. I laid all of the information out 943 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 3: in writing tim and had my boyfriend in hand delivered 944 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 3: him summarize. I broke the cost of replacement down to 945 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: the penny, and threatened legal actions should he not replace 946 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 3: what he damaged. The next day, one of my boyfriend's 947 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 3: other friends showed up with a check made payable to 948 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 3: me for the entire amount. I'm sure you all wish 949 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: it was more exciting than that, but I, for one, 950 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 3: am just glad it's over. The only thing that could 951 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 3: be seen as funny is the memo line in the check, 952 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 3: which was see you next Tuesday, Bunny. I deposited the 953 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 3: check and it cleared, so thankfully he didn't try to 954 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 3: play any additional games by having it bounce. I think 955 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 3: he knew I was serious and didn't want any more 956 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 3: costs adding up, should I take him to court? So yeah, 957 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 3: that's it. One other quick thing about my boyfriend. Since 958 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 3: most people didn't read the end of my og post, 959 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: people accused him of so many nasty things, setting up 960 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 3: the whole thing, not protecting me enough. One person even 961 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 3: theorized that my boyfriend was having an affair with this guy. 962 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 3: None of these things are true. My boyfriend really isn't 963 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 3: close with this guy. He's been around him occasionally, but 964 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 3: they never hang out one on one or talk outside 965 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 3: of when he's in a big group. He's gotten into 966 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 3: arguments with him regarding how he treated me in the past, 967 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 3: and was firm with his dance on us not being 968 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 3: around him anymore after this incident. It seems like people 969 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 3: think that if he's not resorting to violence, he's a 970 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 3: bad guy, but I personally think the opposite. We both 971 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 3: have good careers and him attacking this guy would have 972 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: led to an arrest and charges, and we don't want that. 973 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: My boyfriend is a great guy that stood by me 974 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 3: and helped me with all of this and was definitely 975 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 3: not involved. He's banned from them, and my boyfriend at 976 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 3: the beginning of this said we would no longer be 977 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 3: around him period if he wrote see you next Tuesday 978 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 3: or the actual word. He wrote the euphemism, so he 979 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 3: wrote see you next. 980 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: He wrote down nice Tuesday was word. 981 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 3: I'm sure he thought he was being slicked more than 982 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: one way. He knew we refused to see him going forward. 983 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 3: To think saying I'll see you is an insult in 984 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 3: and of itself. It was a chanel. But that is 985 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 3: the end of that story. Thank goodness that you want 986 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 3: to have to be around this man. 987 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: Ever, you never have to spend twenty eight hundred dollars 988 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: on chanell ever again. Yeah, hey, y'all, it's John og 989 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: Host here. 990 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a 991 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: quick three minute break from as for more sponsors. 992 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 5: I bought my boyfriend flowers and then he got furious. 993 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 3: Maybe he was allergic. 994 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 5: Okay, So my boyfriend twenty two male and I twenty 995 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 5: one female, have been together for about five months and 996 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 5: it's been good so far. But about a week ago 997 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 5: I was at his apartment and he told me that 998 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 5: most men only receive flowers when they've passed away. He 999 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 5: then went on a bit of a rant about women 1000 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 5: not caring as much as men when it comes to 1001 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 5: their partners, and then men want shows of affection too. 1002 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from user quirky Wait seven 1003 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 5: seven to nine, and if you want to submit your 1004 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 5: own stories, go to the r slash Okay story Time 1005 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 5: stuff about it. I honestly took this all as a 1006 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 5: hint that he wanted flowers, So yesterday I went to 1007 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 5: Whole Foods and picked out all the flowers I thought 1008 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 5: he would like and put them together in a big bouquet. 1009 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 5: I also got him a coffee, some chocolates, and a 1010 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,399 Speaker 5: few other things I thought he would like. I've done 1011 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 5: things like this before, just minus the flowers. I usually 1012 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 5: put a game Pass gift card or a Lego set, 1013 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 5: et cetera. I feel like this is important because I 1014 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 5: don't want anyone to think I don't show him affection 1015 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 5: or get him gifts. I definitely do, so I show 1016 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 5: up to his apartment with literally the biggest smile. I 1017 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 5: was so excited to see his reaction, but when I 1018 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 5: gave him the flowers, he got a super uncomfortable look 1019 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 5: on his face and wouldn't touch or kiss me at all. 1020 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 5: I asked him what was wrong and if he liked 1021 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 5: the flowers, and then he just kind of blew up 1022 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 5: at me, saying that flowers are only for apologizing, and 1023 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 5: that if I cheated on him, I needed to tell 1024 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 5: him right now. I was shocked and started crying because 1025 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 5: I have never and would never cheat on anyone. He 1026 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 5: took the flowers to the kitchen and threw them in 1027 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 5: the trash, which honestly felt like extremely disrespectful. He told 1028 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 5: me to get out of his apartment and that he 1029 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 5: didn't have time for cheating. 1030 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: Witches these words. 1031 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 5: Every time I tried to explain, he said he didn't 1032 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 5: want my excuses, and when I'm ready to tell him 1033 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 5: who the man is, then I can talk to him then. 1034 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 5: But there is not a man, and I didn't cheat 1035 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 5: on him. I just thought he wanted flowers. I've never 1036 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 5: thought of flowers as just an apology. He's never gotten 1037 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 5: them for me, but I just thought he didn't like 1038 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 5: showing love that way, so I buy them for myself 1039 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 5: every week. I'm just so confused and hurt by his reaction, 1040 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 5: and I don't know what to do to fix the situation. 1041 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 5: Am I the a hole for buying him flowers? Do 1042 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 5: women really only buy flowers? As an apology. I'm so confused. 1043 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 5: There is an edit. I'm completely overwhelmed by the responses. 1044 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 5: Everyone's making me realize that he is not worth my 1045 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 5: time at all. 1046 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 3: Nope. 1047 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 5: I tried to do something nice for him and he 1048 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 5: threw it back in my face. I texted him and 1049 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 5: told him that we need to talk, and his response 1050 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 5: was finally ready to confess or what. So that tells 1051 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 5: me he's done no critical thinking on his end about 1052 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 5: the situation. We're meeting for lunch tomorrow and I'll update 1053 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 5: everyone after. Thank you for the kind replies and for 1054 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 5: opening my eyes to what an a hole this guys is. 1055 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 5: I'm just glad I didn't waste years of my life. 1056 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 5: There's another edit. Clarify his parents gift each other flowers regularly, 1057 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 5: so he has seen flowers given to a partner for 1058 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 5: reasons other than cheating. His mother gifted him flowers for 1059 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 5: his college graduation, so he has received flowers previously and 1060 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 5: this is not the first time. Also, I have had 1061 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 5: a few people tell me it's weird of me to 1062 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 5: gift him things like the lego sets, et cetera that 1063 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 5: I have mentioned. It's telling you this, don't listen to 1064 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 5: everybody who is telling you this. He told me at 1065 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 5: the beginning of our relationship that his love language is 1066 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 5: gift giving and he loves receiving gifts. 1067 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: That's why I do it. 1068 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry. 1069 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: Like I love language is getting money. 1070 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 3: Your love language isn't gift giving. If it's just that 1071 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 3: you like receiving gifts, that's not what the love language 1072 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 3: gift gifting means. 1073 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 1074 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 3: It means. It means that you like giving gifts. That's 1075 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 3: what love language means. 1076 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: I love languages. When you hear I like. 1077 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 4: When people give me stuff like duh. 1078 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 5: I did not think it would come across as weird 1079 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 5: in any way. I only spend around fifty bucks each time, 1080 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 5: which is nothing for me as I have a well 1081 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 5: paying job. I was in a relationship for two years previously, 1082 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 5: and I gave my partner monthly gifts throughout the entire relationship. 1083 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 5: So I'm in no way trying to love bomb him. 1084 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 3: A love bombing thing. Anyone who said that was love 1085 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 3: bombing is is not well versed. 1086 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 5: I just always want my partner to know they are 1087 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,879 Speaker 5: loved and appreciated. 1088 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,720 Speaker 1: Big update. 1089 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 5: Everybody. His mother is asking if she can call me 1090 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 5: what do I do? His mother loves me and is 1091 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 5: honestly an angel. I don't know what he's told her 1092 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 5: about the situation. Should I be worried? 1093 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: Sorry for updating so many times. I'm gonna take the 1094 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: call from his mother. 1095 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 5: I don't think she means any harm in calling me, 1096 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 5: but if it gets hostile, I'll hang up. I'm also 1097 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 5: considering canceling lunch tomorrow, but it partially depends on how 1098 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 5: this phone call goes. I've also had someone suggest just 1099 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 5: sending them both the link to this post, which I'm 1100 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 5: considering everyone's opinions on that would be appreciated. I told 1101 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 5: his mother she can call me this evening, so I'll 1102 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 5: update after that as well. We have some comments bad 1103 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 5: war What the hell? This dude is a major a 1104 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 5: hole for sure, certainly not the a hole I'd be 1105 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,240 Speaker 5: over the moon to receive flowers, and this dude certainly 1106 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 5: sounded like he was asking for flowers without asking for them. 1107 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 5: This is either rage bait or your boyfriend is just 1108 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 5: a total knucklehead for sure, and showing his true colors 1109 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 5: blazing sunflower land. He probably wanted to vent about how 1110 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 5: women have it so much better than men and picked 1111 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 5: the one thing he thought he would never receive as 1112 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 5: a man as his example of women having the good 1113 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 5: life when men suffered. 1114 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: When she showed up with. 1115 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 5: Her gifts, she took away his ability to rant, so 1116 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 5: he jumped into saying she cheated. 1117 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: He just wanted to rant and insult her. 1118 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 5: How dare she show up with a thoughtful give rather 1119 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 5: than apologize for being a woman who uses men? 1120 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 1: The next one's gonna say the same thing. Let's go update. Hey, 1121 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: we're on the update Guyso. 1122 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 5: All right, guys, this isn't the update any of you 1123 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 5: were expecting. Or maybe it is, and it's definitely not 1124 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 5: the one I was expecting to give. But his mom 1125 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 5: called me, and it was both him and his mom 1126 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 5: on the phone. I pretty quickly told them I wasn't 1127 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 5: willing to talk to both of them. But my ex 1128 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 5: boyfriend was crying, like crying, actual tears. 1129 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: So I listen. 1130 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 5: Is your Mommy told me that he had been talking 1131 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 5: to her about us, and she wants him to talk 1132 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 5: to me with her support so he can tell me everything. 1133 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 5: He started it by telling me how he hasn't felt 1134 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 5: like I'm what he wants in a woman. I'm not 1135 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 5: willing to move in with him yet, and he's someone 1136 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 5: who only wants to date for six months before getting engaged, 1137 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 5: which he had not ever. 1138 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: Told me before, so this surprised me. 1139 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 5: This would mean he wants to be engaged next month, 1140 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 5: which is way too soon for me. He also told 1141 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 5: me that he has trauma around cheating because his high 1142 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 5: school girlfriend cheated on him in junior year and you 1143 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 5: guessed it, apologized with a rose. Then he told me 1144 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 5: that he wants someone who is less career focused and 1145 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 5: someone who wants to have kids and not work. He 1146 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 5: said he thinks some of my ideals and morals are skewed, 1147 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 5: but wouldn't tell me which ones or what he meant. 1148 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 5: Then he just told me he wants a birthing unit, 1149 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 5: essentially I'm paraphrasing. He also told me he's realized I'm 1150 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 5: a quote unquote radical feminist, which I think is extreme 1151 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 5: because while yes I'm a feminist, I don't hate all 1152 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 5: men or think they're all bad. I never talked badly 1153 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 5: about them to him and have really given him no 1154 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 5: reason to think that. Aside from being pro choice, he's 1155 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 5: been red pilled. He said he can't date someone who 1156 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 5: doesn't respect him. And emasculates him. He said, the flowers 1157 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 5: I gave him showed him that I viewed him as feminine, 1158 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 5: and also showed that I was cheating. Oh my god, 1159 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 5: he wasn't even kidding it was the flowers. I told 1160 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 5: him again that I was not and had never cheated 1161 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 5: on him, and asked if he had cheated on me before. 1162 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 5: He was quiet and I kid you not for a 1163 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 5: full two minutes, and then asked me to define cheating. 1164 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 5: I asked if he'd slept with someone else, and he 1165 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 5: said no. I asked why he mentioned the flowers if 1166 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 5: you thought flowers were emasculating, and he said it was 1167 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 5: more about the fact that men are treated and I quote, 1168 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 5: more as slaves than humans in our society. He said 1169 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 5: it was less about him wanting flowers and more about 1170 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 5: him feeling like women aren't owed flowers. That was enough 1171 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 5: explanation on where he was coming from for me. I 1172 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 5: told him our relationship was clearly over and we don't 1173 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 5: share the same ideals. 1174 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: He said he was willing to work on it if 1175 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: I would make changes to become wife material. I said 1176 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: no and hung up. 1177 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 5: So, yeah, lunch is definitely canceled and we're not together anymore, 1178 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 5: but don't worry. He would have skipped lunch to watch 1179 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 5: another Andrew Tait Mega compilation, clearly because that's where he's 1180 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 5: getting all of his thoughts and opinions from. His mom 1181 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 5: didn't really say much other than that she would miss 1182 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 5: me and would always care about me. By the way, 1183 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 5: if you miss us and you care about us, you 1184 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 5: can go listen to full episodes the stories just like 1185 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 5: this on Spotify. iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts. Wherever you listen to podcasts, 1186 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 5: just search, Okay, story time, do it fifty eight consecutive 1187 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 5: days worth of stories. I know it all seems like 1188 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 5: it was best for me, but I'm heartbroken and I 1189 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 5: didn't expect our relationship to end like this. 1190 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: He knew I wanted to work on my. 1191 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 5: Career, wait to have kids, et cetera, and always said 1192 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 5: he was fine with it, so it seems like he 1193 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 5: changed all of his expectations suddenly. I've been crying NonStop 1194 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 5: since the call, and I don't know what to think. 1195 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: You should think? 1196 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 3: Thank God, Hey, thank hallelujah, goodness gracious that I got 1197 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 3: out of this relationship with this terrible baby man manchild 1198 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 3: of a man. 1199 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: The baby took the big red pill, and now he says, 1200 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: google Goga, I hate women. 1201 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 5: Where's my Bugatti? Googoogoo, go Gotti. I feel so stupid 1202 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 5: for not seeing that he was like this sooner, and 1203 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 5: I just wish I had never dated him. I hope 1204 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 5: that gives some closure to everyone, and I appreciate everyone's 1205 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 5: help and kind words. Thank you everyone. And we have 1206 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 5: some comments here. Let's just read the last one. Candid 1207 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 5: Quail nine nine to two seven says, just read the update. 1208 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 5: I know it's rough, but wow, consider yourself lucky. This 1209 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 5: guy is cheating in some way if it took him 1210 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 5: so long to respond, yeah, oh. 1211 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 3: My god, I forgot that. He'll also freaking said defined cheating. 1212 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1213 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 5: Literally, was like, I'm gonna play a four D chess move, 1214 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 5: so a defined cheating. 1215 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: Hmm. Can I sleep with anybody? 1216 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 5: No? 1217 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 3: No, I guess not. 1218 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: And now you've already defined cheating, so I'm not a cheater? 1219 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, can improve it, can't freakuld prove it. 1220 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 5: Man, No one turns on a dime like he just did. 1221 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 5: You are both so young getting married after six months 1222 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 5: that your age is crazy. He has a lot of 1223 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 5: growing up to do and his mommy knows that you 1224 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,959 Speaker 5: will be just fine, hope. He says, I'm just glad 1225 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 5: our relationship ended when he started expressing these views. 1226 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: I'd rather that than him hide it from me. Boom. 1227 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. 1228 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 3: Indeed, bow Man, oh man, and watch out, guys, keep 1229 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 3: an eye out. 1230 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: Thank god you could have had a red pill husband instead. 1231 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 3: It's just a crazy and you can find a better, 1232 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 3: better person. Yes, baby, lordy, lordie, that's the end of 1233 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 3: that story. 1234 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: Who and the end of that episode. 1235 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 3: Yes. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 1236 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: We love you and see you now.