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Speaker 1: Sign up. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to The Draymond
Speaker 1: Green Show. This is episode eight, and I had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to have an incredible conversation with a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: a legend, town legend, incredible defensive player of nine time
Speaker 1: All Defensive First Team, the legend none other than the Glove.
Speaker 1: Like I said, town legend. Obviously you know my ties
Speaker 1: to the town. Uh that's a you know, O G
Speaker 1: who Since I came out. Here's kind of always tapped
Speaker 1: in with me and always show love. And obviously everything
Speaker 1: has come for a circle with with Young GP, the
Speaker 1: Young Glove, you know, being with the Dubs and playing
Speaker 1: incredible basketball. I know, as Pops as proud, and so
Speaker 1: we had an incredible conversation, and my favorite part of
Speaker 1: the conversation was the very beginning, and I think selfishly
Speaker 1: that that was my favorite part of the conversation. So
Speaker 1: you alway definitely had the opportunity to hear the conversation.
Speaker 1: I think it was fantastic and as you know, you know,
Speaker 1: we both can chatted up a little bit. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what we do. So I'm looking forward to that
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to sharing that with you guys.
Speaker 1: But first we need to talk about a few things
Speaker 1: going on around the association. Uh. Starting with I think
Speaker 1: everybody wants to hear about my thoughts on the Warriors, Uh,
Speaker 1: the Warriors Nuggets game that was postponed when I was
Speaker 1: in COVID protocol, And the reality is it probably helped
Speaker 1: me because that was one less game that I missed
Speaker 1: only and up missing two games and then obviously getting
Speaker 1: back the other day against Miami first game back at
Speaker 1: Chase Center. Felt good to be back with the guys
Speaker 1: after missing a couple of games. Sitting there watching it
Speaker 1: on TV sucks, and for me personally, I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: watching on the TV like go plax, some go go
Speaker 1: like feeling like I'm I'm there and those guys can
Speaker 1: hear me. So it's definitely, definitely was great to be
Speaker 1: back on the floor. I think I had a pretty
Speaker 1: good first night out against Miami. I thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna finish that game with twenty assists after having ten
Speaker 1: assist in the first half, but it didn't quite go
Speaker 1: that way. But nonetheless, it was a great win for us.
Speaker 1: But uh, speaking back to the postponement of the game,
Speaker 1: I thought it was complete bullshit. And the reason I
Speaker 1: did was because, as my tweets said, you put certain
Speaker 1: rules in place so you don't have to deal with that,
Speaker 1: and they didn't follow those rules. Denver didn't follow those rules.
Speaker 1: You know. So you add a couple of guys here
Speaker 1: that you say questionable, uh due to these injuries that
Speaker 1: no one can say, oh, that guy can actually go
Speaker 1: out there and play. But yet a night and a
Speaker 1: half later they're out there playing, you know, so I
Speaker 1: thought that was garbage. I thought it probably should have
Speaker 1: been a forfeit because now we're going to have to
Speaker 1: go back to Denver on the back to back. We
Speaker 1: have a game March eight versus the Clippers at home.
Speaker 1: Now we have to go play in Denver March seventh,
Speaker 1: play at home against the Clippers on March eight, and
Speaker 1: then fly back to Denver my March nine to play
Speaker 1: against Denver March ten. So, as I said in my tweets,
Speaker 1: advantage Denver and a game that we would have one,
Speaker 1: it's now probably a scheduled loss. And and I thought
Speaker 1: that was totally unfair. You can even look at the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, uh that you know, a team that had
Speaker 1: three games postponed, and you know we cut them a
Speaker 1: little bit of slack because I don't I'm not quite
Speaker 1: sure that the rules were exactly intact when the team
Speaker 1: got hit with COVID, But you canceled three games in
Speaker 1: a row, that would have been three losses for the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. Now say it comes down to us versus
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn's in the finals, and that and that changed
Speaker 1: the home court advantage. It's unfair. And so I thought
Speaker 1: it was garbage. I thought it should have been a
Speaker 1: forfeit on on Denver's behind. Obviously we're not making a
Speaker 1: thing or forfeit, but you can clearly tell they took
Speaker 1: advantage of the rules. They added guys as questionable, said
Speaker 1: those guys couldn't play, so they didn't meet the threshold
Speaker 1: of the minimum amount of players to play a game.
Speaker 1: And then yet our team is sitting there in Denver,
Speaker 1: would know for three days and doesn't play a single game,
Speaker 1: and then it's going to have to go back. So
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was fair. We've had to play
Speaker 1: games without our guys, with myself being one of those guys,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, we could have did the same thing,
Speaker 1: um going to Toronto where you know some of us
Speaker 1: didn't didn't didn't play in that game. We could have
Speaker 1: put more guys down this questionable as well and did
Speaker 1: the same thing. And so if you put rules in play,
Speaker 1: stick by them. It can't be a case to case
Speaker 1: by case basis because it changes for everyone and it's
Speaker 1: a competitive advantage. So I thought that was totally unfair.
Speaker 1: I thought it was garbage, and I thought it should
Speaker 1: have been handled away differently by the league than it was.
Speaker 1: Speaking of COVID situations, Kyrie returning, and Kyrie is returning tonight,
Speaker 1: and I think we're all excited as just as a
Speaker 1: basketball fan, you're excited to see Kyrie join that team
Speaker 1: and and you know, bringing that team to full strength.
Speaker 1: They prepared to play with Kyrie and so now that
Speaker 1: he's getting an opportunity to do that only in world games,
Speaker 1: as we know, it's exciting, if you know, and Kyrie
Speaker 1: is one of the most exciting players to watch in
Speaker 1: the league. So you know he's gonna Kyrie. It's kind
Speaker 1: of that, you know, six six one six to whatever
Speaker 1: Kyrie is, but walks around with shoulders like he's seven ft.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna come back. Uh, straight pedal to
Speaker 1: the meadows. No trying to find a rhythm. It's not
Speaker 1: how Kye operates. So I'm looking forward to that. I
Speaker 1: think all basketball fans is looking forward to Kyrie getting
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play. So that will happen tonight in Indiana,
Speaker 1: and I think Indiana might want to watch out because
Speaker 1: I know that boy is coming back. I'm sorry, that
Speaker 1: man is coming back with Avengeance and it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: So I'll be tuned in and locked in and watching
Speaker 1: an hour before if it lines up with with with
Speaker 1: when we play. Um, I think they play an hour
Speaker 1: before we play, so maybe I'll get a chance to
Speaker 1: see a little bit of it, but if not, I'll
Speaker 1: just catch it on film because I am excited to
Speaker 1: see Kyrie and his shifting nous get back out there
Speaker 1: on that floor with his scoring ability. And I mean,
Speaker 1: we all know Kyrie is an incredible player, So definitely
Speaker 1: looking forward to that Kyrie joining back with with the nets.
Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder made some comments the other day where he said, uh,
Speaker 1: I should be in the m v P conversation, and
Speaker 1: I actually spoke about it in my press conference the
Speaker 1: other night. Is I agree. And the reason I agree
Speaker 1: is because if you can't watch me play and realize
Speaker 1: that scoring scoring the basketball isn't the only thing that
Speaker 1: makes you great, as I always say, you probably just
Speaker 1: don't understand what you're watching. And yet you know so
Speaker 1: many people everybody in their mom I always sell football
Speaker 1: player of friends of mine. I'm enviously you guys, because
Speaker 1: you have eleven guys running out there on your team,
Speaker 1: eleven guys on the other team. People can't begin to
Speaker 1: even try to come up with what coverage you're in
Speaker 1: or what defensive scheme you're in, what read was wrong?
Speaker 1: You know who catches flat like a receiver for dropping
Speaker 1: the ball, or running back for not um running the
Speaker 1: ball well, or quarterback for throwing a pick or a
Speaker 1: d Vegan burned. But sometimes when that dB get birth
Speaker 1: is actually the free safety fall. But because there's so
Speaker 1: much going on in the football field, people can't really
Speaker 1: make that out. And so I always tell my football guys,
Speaker 1: who are my friends that play football? Is I'm enviously
Speaker 1: you guys, because everyone and their mom thinks they know
Speaker 1: the game of basketball and it's so far from true.
Speaker 1: I always tell people I studied this game every single
Speaker 1: day for hours on end, as most as most people
Speaker 1: doing their cry. Yet they think they know the game
Speaker 1: better than me. And this is what I do for
Speaker 1: a living. This is what I study daily. What you
Speaker 1: give your all too is what I give to the
Speaker 1: game of basketball. And yet people think they understand the
Speaker 1: game as good as us. And so when Coach Snyder
Speaker 1: said that, I was very appreciative of it because I
Speaker 1: do feel that way. I do feel like I'm one
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league. I do feel
Speaker 1: like every night. I am doing incredible things to make
Speaker 1: sure my team wins the game. And obviously, you know
Speaker 1: I played next to the ultimate m VP candidate and
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. But I do think I should get some consideration.
Speaker 1: And you know that consideration may not be Top three,
Speaker 1: as there are so many great players in the running
Speaker 1: for that award, but just to be out there on
Speaker 1: that list, uh, in the top ten being considered for
Speaker 1: that award, I think it's incredible and I think with
Speaker 1: all the things that I do, I can't disagree with
Speaker 1: Coach Snyder. I agree one, but we know how it goes.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not averaging twenty five thirty points a game,
Speaker 1: you don't really uh get any acknowledgement for that award.
Speaker 1: And it's fine, Um, it's fine. As we all know,
Speaker 1: I do have my eyes set on that Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year A War and so you know that's, uh,
Speaker 1: that's my old and that's what I'll continue to push for.
Speaker 1: That War really means a lot to me, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to add that to my trophy case, add
Speaker 1: another one to my trophy case. So I definitely agree
Speaker 1: with Coach Schnyder, and I hope those voters agree to
Speaker 1: and send a couple of bullshoo boy away. That's all
Speaker 1: I ask for. And then um, before we get to
Speaker 1: the interview with the O G. I think lastly, we
Speaker 1: are all excited and anticipating Clay Thompson's return. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people make something of Clay walking off
Speaker 1: the court hold enough six fingers, um and his warm
Speaker 1: up the other night, and a lot of people are
Speaker 1: saying that he was holding enough six fingers that mean
Speaker 1: in six days until his January knife returned. Unfortunately, guys,
Speaker 1: I get the same information you get. I get it
Speaker 1: right off the internet. Clay Thompson's possibly returned on January knife.
Speaker 1: What I can't tell you is this guy has been
Speaker 1: flying around the facility and I don't just meet on
Speaker 1: the basketball court. He's breathing, he's hyped, he's dr let's
Speaker 1: go this that I mean, his energy is through the roof.
Speaker 1: So if that takes us to a January night Clay
Speaker 1: return return, then maybe those six fingers were about six days.
Speaker 1: If not, we know he's somewhere within the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. And uh, I know I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: that just about as much as anyone, if not more
Speaker 1: to reunite with my brother, uh guy who I've played
Speaker 1: with my entire career, but that I've had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to win three championships and go in the trenches with
Speaker 1: every single night. I am looking forward to that. I
Speaker 1: understand and know what he's been through over these last
Speaker 1: couple of years, two and a half years, and you know,
Speaker 1: just seeing all the good the good days, the bad days.
Speaker 1: It was a roller coaster. I mean it was legitimate
Speaker 1: a roller coast. Like some days he walked in and
Speaker 1: he doesn't he wouldn't talk to anyone, Like he just
Speaker 1: walked in and like just sit there and like going
Speaker 1: about his business. And then some days he walked in
Speaker 1: and and he's like loud as hell and want you know,
Speaker 1: want Toscano Anderson and younger guys like that. Who doesn't
Speaker 1: really know Clay? He said, Man, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to read Clay. Like sometimes he say hi to me
Speaker 1: and he's cool and he talks, and then sometimes he
Speaker 1: just walked past with his head down and doesn't say
Speaker 1: anything to anyone, And I'm like, well, the guy who
Speaker 1: says hi to you, it's probably more of the guy
Speaker 1: that Clay is. But what you do have to understand
Speaker 1: is that is also a guy who's dealing with the
Speaker 1: ultimate frustration, a guy who loves basketball and competing just
Speaker 1: as much as anyone that has had that snatched away
Speaker 1: for the last two and a half years while he
Speaker 1: sit back and watch you and I play the game
Speaker 1: that he loved so dearly. And so I understand it. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any ill will to I know
Speaker 1: there's no it will to it, because that's just not
Speaker 1: who Klay Thompson is. But just having to explain that
Speaker 1: to the guys, and now they're really starting to see
Speaker 1: Clay and the energy that he brings to the facility, Uh,
Speaker 1: the energy that he brings to the organization, into this team,
Speaker 1: because he's just been flying through that facility over the
Speaker 1: last week or a week or so, and so um, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hoping it's January ninth versus the cast. It's
Speaker 1: it's long overdue, and like I said, he deserves it,
Speaker 1: and so you know this is gonna be, Uh, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be monumental. Like the basketball world is waiting for
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson's return. It's not just the Warriors fans it's
Speaker 1: not just people in California or NBA fans, the basketball world.
Speaker 1: It's a way that Clay Thompson's returning where all angels
Speaker 1: were excited. I can't wait. And uh, obviously for me,
Speaker 1: that's just furthering me deeper into Pastors Paradise. So what
Speaker 1: more can I say. I'm thrilled a body. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to my brother's return, and I don't think we're
Speaker 1: far away. So stay tuned. Play Thompson's return is on
Speaker 1: the brink. He's coming up, and y'all better watch out.
Speaker 1: This is going to get interested and it's gonna get
Speaker 1: really fun. May be fun for you, maybe not, depends
Speaker 1: on where you're staying, but I definitely think it will
Speaker 1: be really fun for us. So that's what we got, man,
Speaker 1: And you know, with without further ado, um, I would
Speaker 1: like to welcome, as I said before, the legend, the
Speaker 1: O G. The Oakland Native Seattle supersonic legend, not to
Speaker 1: be confused with the Okay See Thunder legend, the Seattle
Speaker 1: supersonic Legend none other than the Glove himself, O G.
Speaker 1: Gary Payton. See her man, I am honored to have
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer Uh A goat the glove man,
Speaker 1: welcome me to his city, allowed me to come out
Speaker 1: here and and be at home, you know, and and
Speaker 1: do great things in this city. Uh in the town,
Speaker 1: I should say, in the town. Uh you know. Born
Speaker 1: and raised Oakland, California, Scoytline High School, Oregon State number
Speaker 1: two pick. And as I said before a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: the glove Man, I am honored to welcome Gary Payton.
Speaker 1: See her, that is Gary Payton, ser gp was happening.
Speaker 1: What's going on, my young fellow man? What's happy with you? Man?
Speaker 1: Nothing much. It's been a rough go at it, not
Speaker 1: only for the NBA, but I see a lot of
Speaker 1: people that I know starting to test positive. Man. So
Speaker 1: just trying to get through that. How are you feeling.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, you know what I'm saying. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just staying away from all that. You know. It was
Speaker 1: coming to company our games and then I stopped coming, man,
Speaker 1: I said. And I'm around these kids too, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, you know our coach Lincoln University, and
Speaker 1: I'm around these kids, man. So tomorrow is gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: Our first day coming back from Christmas break, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be they're gonna be tomorrow. I'm gonna get them
Speaker 1: all tested tomorrow to make sure that we are we'll
Speaker 1: be good. So you know, I'm just trying to be
Speaker 1: stay away from that too. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is just unfortunate that you got caught up in that
Speaker 1: and stuff with that because you don't know who comes
Speaker 1: around you. You know, awesome crazy stuff like at the game.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You don't know, so you
Speaker 1: know what happened. But I know you'll get through it
Speaker 1: and you'll fight through what. You'd be fine absolutely. Speaking
Speaker 1: of of your you coaching, you're coaching that Lincoln University,
Speaker 1: how's that going for you? I know you know you're
Speaker 1: just now getting into it and coming in to change
Speaker 1: the program program around. How's that going? Drell? You know
Speaker 1: what the good thing about this program is, it is
Speaker 1: what you're saying to change it. It's a starter program
Speaker 1: coming out of COVID. You know, you don't have a
Speaker 1: chance to go or recruit. You don't have there's nothing
Speaker 1: to do like that. You gotta see kids off of
Speaker 1: videos And I'm just gonna be honest, this is a
Speaker 1: different era for me. You know, the different kids are different.
Speaker 1: You're I'm saying, it's a different era, man, because these
Speaker 1: kids don't want to work. They think that that you
Speaker 1: gotta give it to him. And basically, this is not
Speaker 1: a U. I'm a different coach. I'm a screen i'mnna yelle.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into your in your chest. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that. That's just the way I am. And I
Speaker 1: gotta have kids that can deal with that, and I
Speaker 1: gotta recruit kids, and then you gotta worry about sometimes
Speaker 1: kids who you gotta be sometimes don't go at him
Speaker 1: that way. You gotta know how to talk to some
Speaker 1: of these kids. But some of these kids gotta understand.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna baby. If you come what you gotta
Speaker 1: do on the floor, I'll let you do whatever you
Speaker 1: wanna do, but you're not gonna come in here and
Speaker 1: have have acid and then think that. I'm gonna just say, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's been it's been a progress,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm getting through it. I got a
Speaker 1: great staff with me, and I think we're playing. We're
Speaker 1: playing okay for a team that we had. That's great.
Speaker 1: I know we have spoke about me coming over there
Speaker 1: one of these days, obviously getting through this, but like
Speaker 1: I said before, just let me know when you know,
Speaker 1: I love to come through and how I'll talk to
Speaker 1: you about that. They don't have a privilege to meet
Speaker 1: me guys like you right now, I think that they
Speaker 1: need to work. You know what I'm saying you. You
Speaker 1: are privileged to come and talk to them, and they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't get that. And you know, but before the
Speaker 1: years old, I want you to because I got two
Speaker 1: guys here that I think that we're really benefit from
Speaker 1: talking to you about how your journey was to get
Speaker 1: to the NBA, how hardy and tough it was for
Speaker 1: you to work coming up for what you did. Like
Speaker 1: what you said this minute, though I have much worse
Speaker 1: where I stayed at. Just hit that, man. They don't
Speaker 1: get that to come and become who you have became
Speaker 1: because you didn't went to most work, more worse things,
Speaker 1: to see worse things, but you built yourself up to
Speaker 1: be the person who you are now. Absolutely now I
Speaker 1: definitely appreciate and speaking of that, uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: kicking this thing off. I'll be remissed if we don't
Speaker 1: talk about the young glove young g P the second.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I know everyone's asking you questions about
Speaker 1: him on the floor and obviously we can talk about that.
Speaker 1: But as a father myself, Um of Dreymond Green Jr.
Speaker 1: Obviously I have two daughters, but it's you're a father
Speaker 1: of a daughter as well. It's it's different raising girls
Speaker 1: than it is boys. And for me, Um, I tried.
Speaker 1: You know, what I struggle with daily is is what's
Speaker 1: too much and what's not enough? You know, like what's
Speaker 1: what's giving him too much and what's not giving him enough?
Speaker 1: Because the reality is we grow up and you know,
Speaker 1: you're growing up in Oakland, me growing up in Sacking.
Speaker 1: All we grow up and I know, for me, my
Speaker 1: goal it always has been I don't want my kids
Speaker 1: to live the same life that I lived growing up.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, I am who I am because
Speaker 1: of the life that I live and and trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, um that balance and like, yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: going to live the life I live, and like I
Speaker 1: can give you more, but like I still want to
Speaker 1: teach you how to get it on your own, and
Speaker 1: like what's hard work and what's determination and how you
Speaker 1: push through that? Can you give me some insight on that,
Speaker 1: because that's what I want to know because that is
Speaker 1: my daily struggling life. And like I said, especially in
Speaker 1: raising my son more so than my daughters, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a great question, a great act of advice. You
Speaker 1: do know that our our daughters are gonna be father guys.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be father guys. That's just just the way
Speaker 1: it goes. Our son is gonna be rebellious against us.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, your son is gonna
Speaker 1: be rebellious, can't you Because his name after you, And
Speaker 1: once he goes to school, people are gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not your dad. You can't be like your dad,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna tease him, and he's gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of he's gonna get mad about that. But because
Speaker 1: who you are and who I was growing up, and
Speaker 1: we had the life that we did, we didn't want
Speaker 1: to give our kids the same lifestyle. Correct, that's very correct.
Speaker 1: But I I say this, don't give him too much.
Speaker 1: Make him work for stuff, give him chores, give him
Speaker 1: things to do, make him go and be with his
Speaker 1: sisters and pick him up or do something like that.
Speaker 1: Make him have a responsibility with Gary, Gary is second.
Speaker 1: He was with me all the time. He learned how
Speaker 1: to play basketball, he learned how to do the things
Speaker 1: he was around me. Uh And I compliment you from
Speaker 1: doing that with Christmas, with your son having enter the band,
Speaker 1: You're giving him an experience of what he can become
Speaker 1: and get and that's what you want him to do.
Speaker 1: But don't give him as much. Don't feed him, don't
Speaker 1: keep feeding him. Make him work for stuff that he
Speaker 1: needs to work for. With my son, I think Gary
Speaker 1: the second it's a good example. He didn't get drafted,
Speaker 1: he didn't do like the way I was. He came
Speaker 1: behind me at organ State. He did a great job
Speaker 1: at the organ State for two years, but then when
Speaker 1: he got in the NBA, Is struggled for six years.
Speaker 1: And now he has found a home with you guys
Speaker 1: at the at the Warriors, because it's a program or
Speaker 1: organization that fits him, and the coach staff and the
Speaker 1: players around him fit him. And that's what his struggle was,
Speaker 1: Bill Bill running around ge leagues and doing that type
Speaker 1: of stuff and learning how hard it is to struggle.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that he struggled, because now he knows
Speaker 1: how to get through it, and I appreciate the work
Speaker 1: he did because every summer he had to work work,
Speaker 1: didn't know what team he's gonna be off, didn't know
Speaker 1: if he was gonna sign with nobody. Now he's in
Speaker 1: that position where he can get away from that because
Speaker 1: he's found that struggle and he felt the way how
Speaker 1: to work. And I'm glad he worked. But I stay
Speaker 1: out of his life though. Draymond, which people don't understand,
Speaker 1: you see it, I don't be around all the time.
Speaker 1: I let him be Gary, not Gary Payton, because it's
Speaker 1: only gonna be one Draymond Grain. It's only gonna be one.
Speaker 1: Gary Payton ain't just named after us, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I tell my son, don't try to
Speaker 1: be like me, because you can't be next Simmy. Be
Speaker 1: on the wall next Simmy, and we will be together,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So always that way, to
Speaker 1: just teach him that way. I think this teach his
Speaker 1: son that way. Let him do what they gotta do.
Speaker 1: And if he calls or if he asks for some
Speaker 1: some assistance, yes I'm gonna give him assistance. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell him what's on my mind and what's on my heart.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sugarcoat it with if
Speaker 1: it's not right, I'm not telling you what's right. If
Speaker 1: it's wrong, I'm telling you what's wrong. And it's point blank.
Speaker 1: You don't have to like it. But as you know,
Speaker 1: I went through this before you d and remember them,
Speaker 1: and I'm always gonna tell you I went through the
Speaker 1: ups and downs two and that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Now I appreciate that. Man, It's like I said,
Speaker 1: that is like I go through that daily. And for me,
Speaker 1: I tried to talk to UM guys who and just
Speaker 1: not only former athletes, but really specifically UM African American
Speaker 1: men who are successful and I look at their their
Speaker 1: kids and and they're doing great things. And and by
Speaker 1: the way, it's funny because I was just having a
Speaker 1: conversation in a group chat with my boys. Great things
Speaker 1: don't mean money, Like great things don't mean uh, they're
Speaker 1: making a ton of money. It's how they carry themselves,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like GP young g p uh.
Speaker 1: You know, GP ain't made a ton of money thus
Speaker 1: far in his career, but the way he carries himself,
Speaker 1: the way he goes about his business. You can just
Speaker 1: tell he's raised right. And so many times you see
Speaker 1: um younger younger children of wealthy um individuals are rich
Speaker 1: individuals as we say, um, and they're a wreck, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and and they don't know who they are.
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, we all go through that right where
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out who we are, you know.
Speaker 1: But but sometimes you see it at a totally different
Speaker 1: level and kind of struggling with identity. And but you know,
Speaker 1: anybody can go through that. You can be raised the
Speaker 1: exact same way that g P two was raised and
Speaker 1: go through that. But it says something about the fathers,
Speaker 1: and so that's something that I definitely wanted to dive into,
Speaker 1: you know. But um, you know, and speaking uh like
Speaker 1: I said number two, pick uh the Seattle SuperSonics. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I've done my research, but also watched you
Speaker 1: growing up. You struggle your first couple of years, you
Speaker 1: figured it out, you become the glove and you're going
Speaker 1: to make nine straight on NBA teams. What was that
Speaker 1: key to you figuring it out and then going on
Speaker 1: and had a career in Hall of Fame, the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame career that you had Raymond. You know what,
Speaker 1: when when I came out, I was very arrogant. I
Speaker 1: was very brash. I thought I knew everything that was
Speaker 1: it didn't have no work ethics like that. And what
Speaker 1: happened was I struggled for two years. But I didn't
Speaker 1: have the coach that can help me get out of that.
Speaker 1: I had Casey Jones, who was a coach who came
Speaker 1: from the boxing who had just won championships. He had Larry,
Speaker 1: He had Larry Bird, Daddy, Robert Paris, Kevin McKell. You
Speaker 1: just throw the ball out to them dudes then and
Speaker 1: they're gonna get it. You know. I'm a young dude
Speaker 1: coming in at one years old. I don't know what's happening,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get it. And I struggled. And
Speaker 1: I was with Sean Kimp and we were struggling to
Speaker 1: the Seattle start talking about traders and then actually know
Speaker 1: the or the on ship came in and said, let's
Speaker 1: talk YouTube together, what is the problem. And I just said,
Speaker 1: I just don't have no guidance. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: have guidance, I don't have no work ethics. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be here. The coaching staff doesn't support me
Speaker 1: the way it is. So we changed. Then we changed,
Speaker 1: you know, we went to George Carl and then George
Speaker 1: call brought in my savor and like a second father
Speaker 1: to me. Who who was called? Whose name kim Gurtridge?
Speaker 1: And when Tim and Gerd took me under his wing
Speaker 1: and made me go to UH the Summer League, we
Speaker 1: played in Utah, we played in l A, We played
Speaker 1: all of them things. And I was in my third
Speaker 1: year going in the Supper League, and that's what I
Speaker 1: needed and I needed a work ethics to do different stuff.
Speaker 1: And I got it. And he put in the post
Speaker 1: up game to me. He put in me a pressure
Speaker 1: in the ball ninety four feet. He put in all
Speaker 1: that stuff in my game and it changed my game.
Speaker 1: And then the following year we went to the UH
Speaker 1: that's you Conference finals, lost to Phoenix. I made the
Speaker 1: All Star team and then I started making them every
Speaker 1: year after that, you know, and I went nine straight
Speaker 1: years after that. So it was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just needed a change in the guidance and I needed
Speaker 1: somebody who can push you. And I just had to
Speaker 1: stop being hearty at it, and I stopped being hardy
Speaker 1: and I started working out because some of these kids nowadays,
Speaker 1: they just think that their talent is gonna give it
Speaker 1: to him. It's not happy because it's more people better
Speaker 1: than you in the NBA now, So you gotta get
Speaker 1: better because they're gonna take it from me. And I
Speaker 1: just started working on my game every every every summer,
Speaker 1: every chance I had to, and I got better drinking.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's beautiful. And so you go from there.
Speaker 1: You you make nine straight. I I have a question
Speaker 1: for you, though. You won one defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: and the reality is with a name like the Glove,
Speaker 1: it's impossible that you only want one defensive player of
Speaker 1: the year. But um, you know, and I know when
Speaker 1: you did win Defensive Player of the year, you were one.
Speaker 1: I think you were the first guard to win defensive player.
Speaker 1: You made me like eight years or something like that.
Speaker 1: Guards don't really get that love and more often than
Speaker 1: not is usually real protecting big man. Uh that get
Speaker 1: that nigh. And yet, like I said, with a name
Speaker 1: like the Glove you made you you win one defense
Speaker 1: player here. That has to be impossible, or else you
Speaker 1: don't get the name of the Glove. You're clamping people
Speaker 1: to get the name of the glove. By the way,
Speaker 1: funny story real quick. The glove shooter came out to
Speaker 1: zip up. My brother got those. He was in the
Speaker 1: fifth grade. I was in third grade. I got in
Speaker 1: trouble at school and I got some terrible nikes. Man,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get My punishment was that I couldn't get
Speaker 1: the gloves. So I ended up getting them like my
Speaker 1: my rookie year of my second year in the league,
Speaker 1: when they came back out and I actually played the game.
Speaker 1: And that was a big moment for me in my
Speaker 1: life because I remember back the third grade when that
Speaker 1: shoe came out to how to shoot out. It couldn't
Speaker 1: get to shoot because I got in trouble at school. Man,
Speaker 1: I had some terrible nikes. My brother, who was like
Speaker 1: an all a student, got the gloves. He won in
Speaker 1: the championship game our our elementary school won the championship.
Speaker 1: He won of them things in the glove man. So
Speaker 1: I had to share that with you appreciate But you know,
Speaker 1: and speaking of defensive player here, what do you make
Speaker 1: of it that a guy like yourself, Um, I feel
Speaker 1: the same way. I'm in my ten year and I
Speaker 1: think I should have maybe three or four awards, but
Speaker 1: nonetheless I have one, and I do understand that. What
Speaker 1: do you make of that? Well, Draymond, you know what
Speaker 1: I look at It is this at a point guard position,
Speaker 1: and I'm the only point guard that ever winning. So
Speaker 1: it's a difference as a point guard. But you have
Speaker 1: to change the game. I think me and you are
Speaker 1: in the same boat because we have to do more
Speaker 1: to what the winness reward because of the simple fact
Speaker 1: is is because of our position and to what we do.
Speaker 1: We changed the game because we change all everything around
Speaker 1: the game because we can pressure the ball. We can
Speaker 1: guard this guy. We don't get let people front us.
Speaker 1: We get our hands on balls, We do diving stuff,
Speaker 1: We make hustle plays. As what the NBA is going
Speaker 1: through right now. If a big man and he goes
Speaker 1: to a rim, they're saying he's a ram protector because
Speaker 1: he's stopping points going happen. We have to do everything,
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying to even get a knowledge of that,
Speaker 1: and people have to pump it up. So that's why
Speaker 1: more big men win it because they're saying, like, okay,
Speaker 1: people get beat now. If they beat Draymond and Gary,
Speaker 1: then the center is protecting him, and he's and he's, he's,
Speaker 1: he's he's blocking shots, and then he's starting fast breaks.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that. I believe in if if
Speaker 1: a person comes on the scouting report and say, if
Speaker 1: Draymond guards, if Draymond grass Chris ball all the way
Speaker 1: up the floor, Chris get the ball to what's calling
Speaker 1: and he has to start the offense, I think you've
Speaker 1: done what you've done. Because they're over there now trying
Speaker 1: to say, man, we're keeping the ball from Draymond. Now,
Speaker 1: Draymond over here, swing it all the way over to
Speaker 1: the other side because we don't want him in the
Speaker 1: office of play. I think you are become a weapon.
Speaker 1: And that's what it was happening with me and with
Speaker 1: you when we wanted we change the game the way
Speaker 1: the people were working. If we get the main person
Speaker 1: off the ball that don't handle it and get in
Speaker 1: the offense, then I think we've done what we're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. And it's it's it's just really it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it is what it is. Raymond. I get I
Speaker 1: think you want you should have wanted a lot more too,
Speaker 1: But they don't go by that. They go by the
Speaker 1: guy who blocks a lot of shots, who alters the
Speaker 1: shots and stuff like that. We don't go by the
Speaker 1: steals and stuff like that, and I think we should
Speaker 1: they should think about changing that and look at the
Speaker 1: all around game, look at all the stacks. What Draymond
Speaker 1: done to change the game of deepness on other teams?
Speaker 1: Did he disrupt this? Did he do that? Yes? And
Speaker 1: then we then we'll start getting into it. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what that's what it should be, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I um and uh, switching switching tunes just a little bit. Uh,
Speaker 1: you won two gold medals. I'm starting to realize, Man,
Speaker 1: our starts lining up a little Our accomplishments lining up
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now, I ain't got nine all NBA teams,
Speaker 1: don't chance you you win two gold medals, But one
Speaker 1: is specific I want to ask about is ninety six.
Speaker 1: And the reason I want to ask about ninety six
Speaker 1: is because that's right after the Dream Team, which in
Speaker 1: my opinion is the greatest USA team, the greatest team ever.
Speaker 1: Let's bar bar none but for sure, I mean ever,
Speaker 1: but the greatest USA team I think that's ever been
Speaker 1: as symboled was the Dream Team. And you come after
Speaker 1: that in nineties six. What type of pressure was that
Speaker 1: after coming off of them? Uh, just now allowing NBA
Speaker 1: players back in the Olympics. You get the Dream Team
Speaker 1: in Barcelona. We know how that story went. You got
Speaker 1: all the guys who you end up competing against for
Speaker 1: all your years. But what what type of pressure was
Speaker 1: that on y'all coming back in nineties six after the
Speaker 1: Dream Team had went over there and been so dominant,
Speaker 1: well dre The only only only pressure put it on
Speaker 1: us is that we had to be teams the way
Speaker 1: they got they beat. We knew where we're gonna be teams.
Speaker 1: We knew where we're gonna blow them out. But they
Speaker 1: were always comparing us. Are they gonna beat them by
Speaker 1: forty like they did that average? Yes, they gonna do that.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have no doubt in our mind that we
Speaker 1: were gonna win a gold medal. We just said we're
Speaker 1: gonna be on our home court, We're gonna be in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: We had to do the dominance of what they had done.
Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about that because we had six other
Speaker 1: players as already was on the Dream Team came to
Speaker 1: us and we only added six new ones coluded myself,
Speaker 1: so we were having more fun. To be honest, Raymond,
Speaker 1: the most competi competition we had was in practice when
Speaker 1: we played each other. When we played each other, that
Speaker 1: was that was when we actually we had all the competition.
Speaker 1: But when we got on the floor, we dominated the
Speaker 1: game and we started averaging winning by thirty five forty two.
Speaker 1: So it was no, you know, no question that we
Speaker 1: were gonna win it. We just wanted to be just
Speaker 1: like Dream Team one. We had to be. We couldn't
Speaker 1: be winning by fifteen, couldn't be winning by twenty. We
Speaker 1: had to win by thirty or four. And that's what
Speaker 1: we started doing. And we were having fun at it.
Speaker 1: You know. Like I said, we had six other guys
Speaker 1: that have already been on the Dream Team, we added
Speaker 1: six more and and we did it. You know, we
Speaker 1: swept through that stuff and it was real fun. It
Speaker 1: was really really fun. Guys. That's incredible. And so you
Speaker 1: won ninety six and two thousand and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just moving moving up your incredible timeline here. Then the No.
Speaker 1: Three uh oh three. A lot of people tried to
Speaker 1: um compare this Lakers team today, which is lebron a
Speaker 1: d Russ a reason, Dwight Howard, obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: guys who um have or will be Hall of Fame players. Uh.
Speaker 1: And when they assembled this team, a lot of people said,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is like the two thousand and three
Speaker 1: teams where they had Kobe and Shock and they had
Speaker 1: a GP, they had a car Malone, they had it,
Speaker 1: all of these guys, and they didn't win a championship. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously this season isn't over for them, and obviously it's
Speaker 1: not going the way that they wanted to go. But
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of crazy when everybody decided
Speaker 1: to compare y'all to them, because number one, Kobe and
Speaker 1: Shock were still there in their prime, where Lebron is
Speaker 1: still a great player, Like Lebron is still one of deep,
Speaker 1: if not the best player in the NBA. You can
Speaker 1: always make that argument arguably the greatest player of all times.
Speaker 1: You can make that argument, But he is in your
Speaker 1: nineteen if I'm not mistaken, And so they weren't in
Speaker 1: their prime. So right there alone, I thought was different.
Speaker 1: Um where you know, y'all got them too young hogs
Speaker 1: and and the prime going at it, and you were
Speaker 1: still rolling to like you continued on after that as well.
Speaker 1: And I think the only like Malone was older at
Speaker 1: that point, it was yeah he was wear older Draymond,
Speaker 1: and you got you got that right. I was just
Speaker 1: only in my thirteen season. That was it. I was
Speaker 1: only my thirteen season, so I was still rolling. I
Speaker 1: had just came off the All Star team. I had
Speaker 1: did all that. I was just having twenty three four
Speaker 1: points or whatever, and and and went there, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden what happened was that we had a
Speaker 1: lot of different stuff going on. I mean, remember Kobe
Speaker 1: had got in trouble in Denver, a shot was was
Speaker 1: feuding with Dr Bucks and then Carl got hurt. And
Speaker 1: guess what, Draymond, he still made the championship, still made
Speaker 1: a championship. I was one on the team that played
Speaker 1: all eighty two games. I was the one who directed
Speaker 1: all the stuff, and we had players that came in
Speaker 1: and fit in. I don't think this Laker team is
Speaker 1: nothing like our team in two thousand three at all.
Speaker 1: I think we had players that knew their role. I
Speaker 1: think the Laker team right now is they hurt too.
Speaker 1: They're very hurt hurt. You know what I'm saying? A
Speaker 1: lot of them are not playing, and I don't think
Speaker 1: Russ is playing the way that he should be playing.
Speaker 1: It's a new thing to him to go and uh
Speaker 1: and be the man so long and then you gotta
Speaker 1: go with a D and Lebron and you gotta give
Speaker 1: them the ball. He's so much dominant on the basketball
Speaker 1: that he's not doing the things he didn't. I think
Speaker 1: he's thinking too much. I just went to the game.
Speaker 1: I just went to the game the other night. One
Speaker 1: and Washington played in San Antonio, and I think he
Speaker 1: thinks it's too much, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: they rely on Lebron so much that they're watching him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They don't play the way
Speaker 1: that you guys play. Like if people cut, move and
Speaker 1: do that, they're watching the basketball too much. And I
Speaker 1: just think the team is not that way. I think
Speaker 1: our guys were. Kobe was in his prime. He was
Speaker 1: a dog. You know, he can come out and get
Speaker 1: fifty anytime he wanted to. Shock could dominic the inside.
Speaker 1: Myself as a point guard was running. We were running
Speaker 1: a triangle, which was new to me and Carl. But
Speaker 1: Carl got hurt and when he missed sixty games. He
Speaker 1: missed sixty two games, and that was bad. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: We were eighteen and two when he got hurt, eighteen
Speaker 1: and two and he got hurt, so it was it
Speaker 1: was crazy for us. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: shock mrs forty games, Kobe, Mrs thirty seven. So you know,
Speaker 1: that was just crazy for us. But I don't think
Speaker 1: this team that the Lakers got or nothing like us.
Speaker 1: I think we were we were more in our prime.
Speaker 1: A lot of us was way more in our prime
Speaker 1: than they worked. And I but I you know, the
Speaker 1: guys on there and there and now Dreyma like you said,
Speaker 1: Carmelo Westbrook, all of them, dudes, Affy, all of them
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Hall of Fame, and they're hurt.
Speaker 1: They're just hurt right now. And it's just a struggle.
Speaker 1: And it's hard to put a team like that together.
Speaker 1: And your diyes are not healthy. And you know, people
Speaker 1: always ask me, like who do you worry about? In
Speaker 1: the West Phoenix, You talk like, uh, you know, pevious
Speaker 1: and you tare really good teams, Like I think you
Speaker 1: know when you roll down to it in the end,
Speaker 1: conference find those all that those two teams will possibly
Speaker 1: be right there with us. I have no doubt in
Speaker 1: my mind about that. But I always tell people like,
Speaker 1: you still gotta worry about the Leakers, Like they still
Speaker 1: got Lebron James, they still got Anthony, the days, they
Speaker 1: still got Russell Westbrook, they still got Carmelo Anthony. They
Speaker 1: still have gods that can beat you, and you can
Speaker 1: go on about it about your day and your life,
Speaker 1: your months up until the playoffs, and thinks that they
Speaker 1: aren't to be dealt with as a player, as someone
Speaker 1: who got to face those guys, someone in the same division,
Speaker 1: those guys still have to be dealt with. There's too
Speaker 1: much talent uh on that basketball court, on that team
Speaker 1: to not have to deal with those guys. So you're
Speaker 1: talking probably legitimately six Hall of Famers, right, You gotta
Speaker 1: deal with those guys. So I don't really make too
Speaker 1: much of what's going on right now and what people
Speaker 1: are saying, you still gotta deal with those guys. But
Speaker 1: I do think Russell's overthinking it a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I understand it. Also, Obviously I'm not who Russell Westbrook is.
Speaker 1: I don't have the ball as much or never having
Speaker 1: my career as Russell Westbrook does. But I do understand
Speaker 1: the sacrifices that it takes when you're playing with guys
Speaker 1: like that that gotta that that should have the ball.
Speaker 1: I understand the sacrifice to take and trying to find
Speaker 1: that balance. From me, I completely stopped shooting, like totally
Speaker 1: stop shooting because you're just trying to find that balance
Speaker 1: to get those guys the ball. So I definitely understand
Speaker 1: it a little bit. You know, where he's coming from
Speaker 1: or what he's dealing with. I understand that. But you know, so,
Speaker 1: so y'all are expected to win the finals. Uh shout
Speaker 1: out to the Pistons. Detroit Pistons go on to win
Speaker 1: the finals. Uh State of Michigan, baby, you know I
Speaker 1: respect that. Um. They go on to win the finals,
Speaker 1: and then you you you eventually you you signed with
Speaker 1: the Heat, and y'all go on. Then you y'all go
Speaker 1: to Boston. You go to Boston for a year one season,
Speaker 1: then you eventually you signed with the Heat. Y'all go
Speaker 1: on to win the championship. And I thought one of
Speaker 1: the most interesting things about that championship was as great
Speaker 1: as Shock was the way it was the guy the
Speaker 1: way absolutely was the guy. Yeah, let me give you
Speaker 1: a story about that. We were struggling, Draymond from all
Speaker 1: for the whole year. We're struggling from day one. We're
Speaker 1: just like the Lakers. Now, we were struggling. They were
Speaker 1: giving criticism to pat Riley about putting this team together.
Speaker 1: But all guys who are older, they all in their
Speaker 1: in their lates, you know, everybody had a time and
Speaker 1: they and they in their times and their teams or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they were they were criticizing us. Van Gundy steps down,
Speaker 1: pat Riley takes over. I'm the oldest one on this team.
Speaker 1: Now I'm the oldest states so I feel like this.
Speaker 1: I started seeing Shack be mad about we're not getting
Speaker 1: in the ball, and I just told Shack, I said, Shack,
Speaker 1: listening little what young fella did last year. You see
Speaker 1: how I took over stuff. Many they've lost in the
Speaker 1: in the way in the Eastern Conference finals. You guys
Speaker 1: lost in the cup finals. That's why Pat came and
Speaker 1: put all of us together. He wanted a championship. We're
Speaker 1: here that we got to stop this. Man. I said, Man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make him be the first year period. You
Speaker 1: gotta do this for me and I told Shock, I said,
Speaker 1: do this for me. Just let him be the first year.
Speaker 1: Let him go and do him. If we get you
Speaker 1: on the block, just get there and score. And when
Speaker 1: he agreed to it and and bid in man the way,
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen nobody before him like this ever.
Speaker 1: He had things as thirty five, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is incredible because this young kid was giving them
Speaker 1: the blues and he was making shots everywhere, getting to
Speaker 1: the whole duncan. And he guided us all the way
Speaker 1: to that championship. And what it was is just like
Speaker 1: you guys right now, Grandma. We had he had four
Speaker 1: guys around him that was ready for him to do
Speaker 1: whatever we were ready to do. We were ready for
Speaker 1: if he passed into us here at a shot. We
Speaker 1: were playing defense. We told him, going to corner, get
Speaker 1: you some rest, guard the weakest man over there, and
Speaker 1: we'll have everything else in the control. And that's when
Speaker 1: we start being a team. And then we just rode
Speaker 1: through the Eastern Conference and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: we got in the championship. Dallas got up too old,
Speaker 1: and then we buckled down and then we beat the
Speaker 1: fourth straight and then uh and that was beautiful Uh,
Speaker 1: incredible congratulations. I always like to say that to any
Speaker 1: champ because people don't understand how hard it is to
Speaker 1: win a championship man. And as someone who who's at
Speaker 1: the opportunity to win a few championships, I am starting
Speaker 1: to have an appreciation for guys that had great careers
Speaker 1: and didn't win. And the reason being is because people
Speaker 1: try to judge guys off like, oh, you didn't you
Speaker 1: didn't end up winning one, like all that don't count.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to win the championship man, AND's so
Speaker 1: many things has to go right in order for you
Speaker 1: to win a championship, and people don't really understand that.
Speaker 1: Like I said on a few weeks back, you know,
Speaker 1: people are talking about Chris Paul, so he never won
Speaker 1: a championship. Chris Paul is a winner. And you can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want about Chris Paul. He hasn't won
Speaker 1: a championship and that's not unfortunate, and he still has
Speaker 1: an opportunity too, But he's a winner. He is a winner.
Speaker 1: He's one every team that Chris Paul has been on,
Speaker 1: he's made that team a better team. I spoke about
Speaker 1: they sent him the okay see to essentially die on
Speaker 1: his deathbed, and not only did he resuscitate himself, he
Speaker 1: took that team in the playoffs. And because of what
Speaker 1: he did there, Sam Presty got him to a place
Speaker 1: in Phoenix where he can have the type of success
Speaker 1: that they are having last year and this year. So
Speaker 1: that's that's a very interesting thing that I think people
Speaker 1: don't really realize is how hard it is to win
Speaker 1: that championship. But in saying that, you go to Miami,
Speaker 1: you win and championship. I think for myself and for
Speaker 1: most people, if you're a basketball fan Gary Payton, you're
Speaker 1: always going to associate Gary Payton with the Seattle supersis.
Speaker 1: That's just why I did it, and Uh, and I
Speaker 1: think you may feel the same way. M You you
Speaker 1: openly UH expressed that you had no desire to have
Speaker 1: your jersey retired to Oklahoma City and and even more importantly,
Speaker 1: you've been very outspoken about getting Seattle a franchise back. UH,
Speaker 1: and both of those things. If if they were to
Speaker 1: get a franchise back, which I think they will and
Speaker 1: I hope they do, incredible city, Yum, would you would
Speaker 1: you would you be into coaching, uh, Seattle Supersidics franchise
Speaker 1: or or front offers of that franchise. Yes, very much, Dreymond.
Speaker 1: I would love to go back to Seattle and give
Speaker 1: them fans what they what they deserved. They should have
Speaker 1: never lost a team in the first place. Just bad
Speaker 1: ownership that was happening during the time where it just
Speaker 1: it went down as soon as I got traded. That
Speaker 1: ownership took that team to to a load, a very
Speaker 1: very bad load, and and and then happens. You know.
Speaker 1: But but you know, you gotta think about I never
Speaker 1: played for Oklahoma, So why would I get a fans
Speaker 1: any kind of opportunity to go in there and say,
Speaker 1: and why my name rapping and your raptors where I
Speaker 1: never played that. That's nothing that I would want to do.
Speaker 1: Seattle is what I'm I'm about. Seattle made me. They
Speaker 1: made me for thirteen seasons. Who I am? They made
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer, you know, they made me
Speaker 1: a top set me five. They made me that type
Speaker 1: of person. So I would never disrespect Seattle in no
Speaker 1: kind of way of doing that to the fans. So
Speaker 1: if and when it does come back, and I know
Speaker 1: it will, yes, I'm gonna be a part of that.
Speaker 1: That that that organization to keep that going and keep
Speaker 1: the people going and get our basketball back. Like you said, Drama,
Speaker 1: that is a great city of beautiful I still got
Speaker 1: businesses out in there in Seattle. You know, our restaurants
Speaker 1: out there, So I'm I'm very happy. I'm there all
Speaker 1: the time, and you know I'm looking to move back.
Speaker 1: I wanted to the city. Man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I might be in California, but I love ya. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't care about the rain.
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. That's a beautiful city. And yes,
Speaker 1: I would go back in a heartbeat. That's that's beautiful. Uh.
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, I know I've taken
Speaker 1: a bunch of your time. I got one last question
Speaker 1: for you, and the reason I love is you know
Speaker 1: I really want to ask this question. I should say
Speaker 1: it is because I don't know where I am. I
Speaker 1: didn't even want to look it up because I think
Speaker 1: it would have ruined my day. But you're four for
Speaker 1: all time and technical files. Obviously I got my first
Speaker 1: text myself, UM, do you know who the three guys
Speaker 1: are before you? Ahead of you, I should say, I
Speaker 1: think it's Rashid Wallace, he's number one. I think Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, and it can't be you this to this quick, No,
Speaker 1: I ain't got enough year you ain't. And who else
Speaker 1: is called along? Okay, so as you calm alone, well
Speaker 1: like you said Rashid, then you got calm along Chuck.
Speaker 1: Oh it's Charles. Chuck Challs used to get a lot
Speaker 1: of texts too, man, Yeah he did. He's always talk
Speaker 1: crazy man. Yeah. Yeah, I thought dinnis Robert because he
Speaker 1: was getting crazy at times. Man. Yeah, Chuck, I Beleeve Charles,
Speaker 1: I Beleeve Charles. Yeah, because I know it was number
Speaker 1: one Call. I know Call had a lot of them.
Speaker 1: And then I didn't know Chuck though. I thought I
Speaker 1: thought Chuck was below me. But yeah, it's cool. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's that man. We used to get text man, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you I used to get him all the time.
Speaker 1: You know how y'all get like fourteen fifteen to get suspending.
Speaker 1: I have been suspending bout four times. Man. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was getting them mad. I didn't care. Hey, I
Speaker 1: tell you what. And looking at that list, obviously to
Speaker 1: three Hall of famers, one who I think should be
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame member she Wallace, who was an incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible player, incredible talent. And I hope he do get
Speaker 1: that now one day. But I'll tell you what if
Speaker 1: me getting the text means I can end up in
Speaker 1: that conversation with a group of guys, come on, NBA,
Speaker 1: I tell you the text. I tried lessening them things,
Speaker 1: but once I saw this list, I need to be
Speaker 1: out there so that one's gonna help me get to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Put me right up there with
Speaker 1: those guys. I'll take it. Hey, man, look do what
Speaker 1: you do. Man, if you feel like you could do
Speaker 1: what you know how to control it. I did the
Speaker 1: same thing, man. I just you know, like I would
Speaker 1: always call, I would always talk to you when I
Speaker 1: see I just said, when it's time for you to
Speaker 1: calm down, just calm down, Just go over to the
Speaker 1: referees and talk to him. And I've seen you done
Speaker 1: that in the last couple of years. Is where you're
Speaker 1: having a better relationship with the with the referees. Once
Speaker 1: you do that, they'll give you one every now and then.
Speaker 1: Who cares who kids? Who cares about that? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just that you have to learn yourself.
Speaker 1: All right, it's not the right time for me to
Speaker 1: get a tech for my team. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Let me just go ahead and do this. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get this one because I think this is crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ain't nothing wrong that I
Speaker 1: did that all my career. I did it all my
Speaker 1: career draped. Man. I used to go to referee board
Speaker 1: and say, look here, I ain't have a good game, man,
Speaker 1: give me a tech. Man, you know what. Understanding you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just make it look like you
Speaker 1: just you know. We we argue, but it's like that, man,
Speaker 1: it's your emotions. You just played from the heart. Black,
Speaker 1: I did play from the heart. You can't play no
Speaker 1: other way. It is what it is. If you get
Speaker 1: in that moment, man, you get into that. People have
Speaker 1: to understand that you are a winner. You do not
Speaker 1: want to lose. And you think that the cause was
Speaker 1: bad with some of them and mostly of them. Be back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So don't worry about it, man,
Speaker 1: keep playing your game. Don't change your ways. Man, change
Speaker 1: what you do if it's gonna make you get better.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make you do what you gotta do, do it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter as long as you're being productive with
Speaker 1: it and y'all winning. Don't worry about nothing else. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: man o G. I appreciate you coming on. I thank
Speaker 1: you for taking the time. Basketball legend, NBA legend, hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, but more importantly to me, city there I
Speaker 1: love dearly A town legend, town been a g P.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it, appreciate you always.
Speaker 1: I felt like any time you want me, man, you
Speaker 1: know you come get me man. You know, let's do
Speaker 1: that dominant. Thank again, Max Bones on them people, Yes, sir, Yes,
Speaker 1: always love Wow. I hope y'all enjoyed that interview as
Speaker 1: much as I enjoyed that interview. I hope you took
Speaker 1: some things away that I was able to take away, because,
Speaker 1: like I told you, one of my favorite questions and
Speaker 1: one of the things that I wanted to know the
Speaker 1: most as a father of two little girls. But also
Speaker 1: but as you saw my son, that's just something that
Speaker 1: I want to know because it's something that I struggle
Speaker 1: with daily on always trying to just trying to figure out, like,
Speaker 1: am I too hard on him? And Am I not
Speaker 1: hard enough on him? Um? Am I giving him too much?
Speaker 1: Am I not giving him enough? Is it's just right?
Speaker 1: There's no right answer, there's no there's no handbook that
Speaker 1: someone gives you and say, Harry, Harry, here this this
Speaker 1: is parents in one on one. It just doesn't work
Speaker 1: that way. It is trial and error. As a parent.
Speaker 1: You're just going with what you think is best. Like
Speaker 1: your mom, your dad, whoever can tell you all that
Speaker 1: they want about being a parent, and ultimately you're still
Speaker 1: going to go with what you think is best for
Speaker 1: your child because a part of that is also you
Speaker 1: knowing your child right, and you build it in that
Speaker 1: relationship with him, and you knowing what buddons depressed, what
Speaker 1: buddon is not depressed. You know how something may bother
Speaker 1: him or her or how it may not like that
Speaker 1: is parenting. It is no hand book that's anyone gives you.
Speaker 1: People give you a little advice, and then you have
Speaker 1: to figure it out from there. And so I was
Speaker 1: extremely thankful for the way g P answered that question
Speaker 1: in particular, but just also him sharing, um, you know
Speaker 1: his love for Seattle and how he would get back
Speaker 1: into it if that or if that city got an
Speaker 1: organization back speaking on his current team and the job
Speaker 1: that he's doing and trying to recruit in those struggles.
Speaker 1: I thought it was incredible. I was extremely, extremely pleased
Speaker 1: with the interview. And but more so than please honor
Speaker 1: too to go to school, because that's what it was
Speaker 1: for me. It was school, um, taking in knowledge from
Speaker 1: one of the O G s and seeing what can
Speaker 1: I use to apply to my own personal life to
Speaker 1: apply to my career. I thought it was incredible, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I I never ever get tired of getting
Speaker 1: when I had an opportunity of talking to Gary Payton Senior,
Speaker 1: it's always a treat and so I hope that's what
Speaker 1: y'all took away from it as well. Uh And obviously
Speaker 1: you know here and I gotta run. We always got
Speaker 1: a standard domino game going on. We're always looking forward
Speaker 1: to that. By the way, new show coming out Throwing Bones,
Speaker 1: and GP is one of the guests on one of
Speaker 1: the episodes, So make sure you're tuning in the Throwing
Speaker 1: Bones that's coming out later this week Thursday, and I
Speaker 1: think it will be a great show. It is, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're sitting there chopping it up playing dominoes.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love playing dominoes. Whoever's out there listening to
Speaker 1: think they can throw them bones how all at me?
Speaker 1: Because you can't. I promise you you can't. I play
Speaker 1: like a like the best domino players I've ever seen
Speaker 1: are in prison or did time in prison, and I
Speaker 1: played like those guys. So tee me if you want to.
Speaker 1: But that's a rap. Another episode of Draymond Green Show,
Speaker 1: Episode eight, I'm Out. We got Dallas coming up this week,
Speaker 1: check it out. We got the Pelicans coming up this week,
Speaker 1: trying to close in on a three and oh week
Speaker 1: and I think it's well within reach and we go
Speaker 1: play our game. So until next week, Much love, Draymond
Speaker 1: Green Show. I'm Out.