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Speaker 2: Two on this Friday, A Meet Friday at that tried chip,

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Speaker 2: French dip, sandwiches and poutine. Who has it better than

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Speaker 2: we do? No. Eight seven to seven three DP show.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. Brian Winhorse from the mother Ship.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he has any new information on what

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Speaker 2: took place yesterday in the morning and most of the

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Speaker 2: afternoon as well. Given Chauncey Billups and Terry Rogier, also

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Speaker 2: Damon Jones. Those are the basketball players involved in this

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Speaker 2: web poll question. Update the poll question question from the

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Speaker 2: first hour of the program. And keep in mind on

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, it's Aaron Rodgers against the Packers and that's

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Speaker 2: the Steelers hosting Green Bay Sunday seven Eastern no on

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Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock. And I know people are probably looking

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Speaker 2: at this as all it's that payback game for Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: He's going to get back at the Packers for something

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Speaker 2: that they did. Packers didn't do anything to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: They let him stay longer than they probably should have.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers he might have took some of the

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Speaker 2: wind out of the sales here of this matchup, this

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Speaker 2: rivalry of sorts. When he said this yesterday, I.

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Speaker 3: Feel so good about my time, man, because damn near

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Speaker 3: everything great in my life is because of you know,

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Speaker 3: my football career, and my football career starts and we're

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Speaker 3: in one day with Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: So we got a lot of love for all those

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Speaker 2: memories and a lot of great friends still carry with

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Speaker 2: me to this day. If I'm NBC, I'm like, what

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Speaker 2: are you doing? You know, can you say something negative

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Speaker 2: about Jordan Love or Green Bay or come on, we

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Speaker 2: need some bulletin board. Not I'm going to end my career.

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Speaker 2: He'll sign a one day contract to retire as a

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Speaker 2: Green Bay packer. Come on, Aaron, you got to understand

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Speaker 2: content here or in the content business. Yes, Marvin, you

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Speaker 2: should have talked to Tua to once again. If it's

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Speaker 2: two versus the microphone, the microphone wins every time. Because

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Speaker 2: somebody asked him about he didn't throw many passes to

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Waddle and then he said that he couldn't see

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Speaker 2: him because the linemen are too big. Just say, maybe

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Speaker 2: he has to learn out a lie. Yeah, they should,

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Speaker 2: you know, take some of these quarterbacks and have them

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Speaker 2: in a classroom and teach them what to say, what

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Speaker 2: not to say, how to say it, how not to

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Speaker 2: say it. Because when Tua goes, I I mean once again,

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Speaker 2: I'm in the content business. I love when he gets

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Speaker 2: behind a microphone. But don't admit you're too short. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I can't see over the linemen, so I couldn't throw it,

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Speaker 2: Jayleen Waddle. Yes, Todd Boenis.

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Speaker 4: Had five of his passes blocks and still found a

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Speaker 4: way to get thirty three fourth quarter points. I'll just

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Speaker 4: drop the mic Oh oh, there's no excuse about that.

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Speaker 2: Life of a college. But I love now.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: I don't think bonus anything about being too short. That's

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Speaker 4: why five passes were.

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Speaker 2: Did you buy the Bonex jersey yet? I have not.

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Speaker 4: That's just because that's not That's not because I haven't

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Speaker 4: bought it. I bought one. I bought one for Jordan

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Speaker 4: and my son. I sent him the old retro nineteen

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Speaker 4: seventy seven to one. And you know, if I buy

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Speaker 4: another jersey, because I had so many of them, it would.

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Speaker 2: Probably Do you get a Russell Wilson jersey? I did not.

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Speaker 4: I got other Russell Wilson's shirts which were ridiculous that said,

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Speaker 4: you know, that had him next to Peyton Manning and

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Speaker 4: John Elway like they were going to be like the

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Speaker 4: three great Bronco Super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 2: I was a person. By the way, the stat of

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Speaker 2: the Day brought to you my Padini America, the official

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Speaker 2: little trading cards of the program. The Flacco Around and

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Speaker 2: Danpatrick dot com store. All right, Seaton, pull question from

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Speaker 2: our one and do we have the Hall of Good

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Speaker 2: T shirt? Yeah, that's up there. That's up there.

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Speaker 6: There's also a Dodgers T shirt up there as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, World Series opening up tonight. I just want

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Speaker 2: to make sure I tune in for the first that

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Speaker 2: when shoe Hey Otani comes to the plate and how

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Speaker 2: Toronto is going to react to him. Remember we had

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Speaker 2: Steve Phillips on the former Mets GM and he's like, ah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think all signs are leading to Toronto.

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Speaker 2: And I think he was affiliated with the Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: maybe I don't know what kind of role, but he

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Speaker 2: should know. And then all of a sudden there was

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Speaker 2: a report that Shoe Aotani's jet was going to Toronto,

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Speaker 2: to Toronto. So those fans might be a little frosty

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Speaker 2: there with show Hay in his first at bat.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Paul Bigger, all Time, pump fake show Hay to

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Speaker 7: the Blue Jays, Lebron to the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: I would say Lebron to the Knicks, because I'm probably

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Speaker 2: reminding people that Toronto was in the sweepstakes here for show. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we you had some Jared Dudley was on the Knicks,

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Speaker 2: wasn't he And he was talking about that he's hearing

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Speaker 2: that Lebron's going to the Knicks. I would say that

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Speaker 2: the proximity of when he made his announcement, He's in Connecticut,

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Speaker 2: not far from where the Knicks practice, and I thought, okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe there's a possibility.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, we were in the old studio, so I

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Speaker 7: remember it like it was yesterday. And we get the

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Speaker 7: word that Lebron is doing his announcement at the Boys

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Speaker 7: and Girls Clubs of Greenwich, five minutes from the Knicks

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Speaker 7: practice facility, just over the border, and we all looked

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Speaker 7: at each other said he's going to the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we all set it. Yeah. I would say that

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Speaker 2: that was the ultimate pump fake. I don't know if that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know people think that it was that close

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Speaker 2: with Shohy going to Toronto. I think there were reporroneous

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Speaker 2: bit more front burner, and it wasn't. I don't even

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Speaker 2: think he was on the stove. All right, So World

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Speaker 2: Series coming up tonight. Shay Gilgis Alexander had fifty five

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Speaker 2: last night. They had another double overtime game. You also

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Speaker 2: had Steph Curry with a big night. Aaron Gordon puts

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Speaker 2: Looking at some of the games this weekend in the

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Speaker 2: at the points spreads here just to see, like the

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Speaker 2: Titans at the Colts. The Titans fourteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. The Titans are gonna They're gonna knock

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Speaker 2: one of those gotta win We're gonna do. The most

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Speaker 2: bit later, on the Cowboys and the Broncos that is spicy,

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins at the Falcons. You know, these teams eventually

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Speaker 2: going to surprise somebody. Brown's Patriots. That's at the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Bill's minus seven at the Panthers. Like these are those

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Speaker 2: tricky games where you go, it's seven. Although Bryce Young

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's playing. I think he's when he

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Speaker 2: got injured against the Jets. The Buccaneers at the Saints.

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Speaker 2: This is where I always go with the team that

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Speaker 2: you don't think will win. It's at the Saints and

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Speaker 2: The Bears are getting six and a half against the

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Speaker 2: a four and two team versus a one win team.

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Speaker 2: H Yes, see our two pole question. Who do you

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Speaker 2: like this weekend? The four and two.

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Speaker 6: Bears at plus six point five or whatever six and

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Speaker 6: a half or the one in five Ravens.

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Speaker 2: How is that possible?

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's not even healthy.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: don't know if he was participating. Feels like probably would be.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to six, you're favored by six and

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Speaker 2: a half. Good. I gotta believe that he's playing. I

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Speaker 2: mean that screams, Oh, I'm taking the Bears in the

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Speaker 2: six and a half, right. It's like, man, that's easy

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paully, It's like Vegas doesn't have the same opinions

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Speaker 7: that we do. You know, foreign too. Oh, the Bears

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Speaker 7: are doing well, they're on a hot streak. The Ravens

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Speaker 7: are in disarray. Vegas doesn't believe that they're looking at

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Speaker 7: this game different than the records.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what Vegas has been on top

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Speaker 2: of the Ravens that they're not that far away from

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Speaker 2: winning this division. At least last week or the week before,

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Speaker 2: the odds were better than the Bengals and not that

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Speaker 2: far off from the Steelers. Oh, maybe the schedule's pretty

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Speaker 2: easy in the second half and Lamark comes back and

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Speaker 2: they started out slow I think last year and then

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Speaker 2: you take out the ping pong tables and you know,

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Speaker 2: corn hole. I don't know. And then John Harball said,

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Speaker 2: I didn't take it out. The players did, the captains,

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Speaker 2: the leaders took it out right, Okay, all right if

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Speaker 2: you tell me that. Okay, I'm not sure what it's

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Speaker 2: going to meet now? We mean, because hey, no more

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Speaker 2: games here. The only game we play is the one

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Speaker 8: Yes, so that's their version of a player's only meeting,

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Speaker 8: like you know what, guys, Oh, no more toy like

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Speaker 8: you know what, guys got that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You had me there like a great pauses yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: let's see Lucas and Texas leads us off hour two. Hi, Luke,

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Speaker 2: Hey dang, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's lots of legal proceedings.

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Speaker 9: And conversations going on right now, and I need to

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Speaker 9: bring that to bear on the DP show. I have

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Speaker 9: some evidence, and then I have an accusation against one

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Speaker 9: of the Danets. I have reviewed the footage from the.

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Speaker 5: Last two meat Fridays, and there is a certain Danette

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Speaker 5: soon to be named, who is extremely slow, in particular,

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Speaker 5: going through the line. Everyone else is actually sampling the food,

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Speaker 5: and he's making a very clear effort to have a

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Speaker 5: perfect plate, a sampling every little bit of every little dish.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is personal to me.

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Speaker 9: Because I grew up with a father who did the

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Speaker 9: very same thing and drove our family nuts because he

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Speaker 9: would just be sitting down while everyone else had already

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Speaker 9: finished up. So my claim, which I lead to the

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Speaker 9: jury of the other Danets and Dan yourself.

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Speaker 5: Is that one Paul pass oh Friday passhole of the

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Speaker 7: Okay, Paulie, I think I knew it was me with

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Speaker 7: the accusation. I like to enjoy and peruse the lovely

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Speaker 7: spread that our team puts out for us, and I'm

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Speaker 7: very grateful for it. So I take a look at

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Speaker 7: it and I try to sample everything, whether I might

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Speaker 7: not like it or not, so I look at that

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Speaker 7: as a positive. I try not to clog the lane though.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, Judd, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think I'm a lane clogger. I have problems with

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Speaker 4: other lanes on the highway, but I'm I guess the opposite.

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Speaker 4: I like to have everything in one big mound or clump,

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Speaker 4: and that could all be on top of each other,

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Speaker 4: and I treat it as if the last meal and

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Speaker 4: there's going to be no time or room for seconds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I always tell you, I said, Tod, you can always

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Speaker 2: go back, but you go all in on one, you know,

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Speaker 10: Good morning, Dan danned Thanks for taking my call. I

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Speaker 10: Rick the Tino. That has nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 10: If you look back, the Feds did a raid in

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew. Once again, that is speculation. Gil is

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that happen, but you have to look

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Speaker 2: Pauline.

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Speaker 7: Gilbert Arenas on his own personal Twitter verified Twitter yesterday

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Speaker 2: This morning. That was nineteen hours ago.

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Speaker 7: You know, so Gilbert is having fun with it on

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Speaker 2: But didn't he have one about Gilbert the snitch that

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Speaker 8: He's alluded to it in a couple of times on

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Speaker 2: for Brian Winhorse from the Mothership. Hi, Cindy, what's on

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Speaker 11: Hi? Long suffering Dolphins fan here. As I was watching

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Speaker 2: Well, you were a playoff team and they probably looked

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Speaker 7: And when there's a backup quarterback, the promo has to pivot.

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Speaker 2: H Stu in Indiana. Hi Stu, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 2: Hi Dan? Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just had a little You mentioned the coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Oscar Robertson's team. Yeah, Oscar Robertson Christmas Addics. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why all the greatness of Dean Smith. And

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paulin Yeah, Phil Ford played seven years in the NBA.

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Speaker 8: North Carolina of all like you have.

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Speaker 8: Then, but if you go to North Carolina, you're somebody.

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Speaker 2: Jason Jason in Phoenix, Hi, jaswit's on your mind?

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Speaker 13: Hey, thanks for taking my call, guys, Yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 13: let's push off thing. It just I played basketball. I

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Speaker 13: not calling it, like what.

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Speaker 10: The heck.

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Speaker 2: Jason got anger issues? Yeah, to push off it's okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, great players get away with stuff. Yeah, but

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Speaker 11: He is.

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Speaker 2: Not to the point where you should want to fight

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Speaker 7: Like the tush push bothers me. But Kelsey, I'm not

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Speaker 2: From I'm not going after you know, Jalen Hurds. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Let's see Aiden in Utah, Hi, Aiden, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 3: Good morning?

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Speaker 2: Good morning?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always been in big component Oh sorry, I've

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Speaker 3: is not really to fight back against everybody who claims

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Speaker 3: it is. I still don't believe that it is. But

435
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Speaker 3: just watching this go down. It's it's crazy. I was

436
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Speaker 3: watching ESPN yesterday a green he had shams on and

437
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Speaker 3: on the bottom ticker it was a promo for ESPN

438
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Speaker 3: Bett and it's just like, while they're talking about the

439
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Speaker 3: gambling situation, It's like what what what would they what

440
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Speaker 3: would have to happen for gambling to be outlawed again?

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Speaker 2: It's not happening. That ship has that yacht has sailed.

442
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Speaker 2: It's on a ship for that. It's it's it's a yacht.

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Speaker 2: Brian Windhors, ESPN Senior NBA writer, Wendy, thanks for joining us.

444
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Speaker 2: I know you're busy. When did you get a heads

445
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Speaker 2: up that, uh, there was something going on here. Let's

446
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Speaker 2: start with Chauncey Billups. We knew about Terry Rougier, but

447
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Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups and he heads up.

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Speaker 14: Good morning Dan. I had no heads up, and I'm

449
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Speaker 14: not sure Chauncey did either. You know. I was here

450
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Speaker 14: in l A and stay at the same hotel as

451
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Speaker 14: the Timberwolves, and I ran into some Timberwolves folks yesterday

452
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Speaker 14: in the hotel like an hour after this happened. And

453
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Speaker 14: they had been in Portland the night before they played

454
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Speaker 14: against the Blazers, some of the players, some of the

455
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Speaker 14: folks I talked to who said they talked to Chauncey.

456
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Speaker 14: They complimented him on the way the team looked. They

457
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Speaker 14: had a real close game, came right down to the

458
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Speaker 14: final minute, and their home opener against Minnesota. Chauncey talked

459
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Speaker 14: about how excited he was about the team, about how

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Speaker 14: good of a training camp they had. I don't think

461
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Speaker 14: Chauncey knew it was coming either. Maybe he knew he

462
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Speaker 14: was the subject of an investigation, that's possible, but the

463
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Speaker 14: fact that he was going to get arrested in the

464
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Speaker 14: in the wee hours, I don't think he knew was coming.

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Speaker 14: I'm not sure how much heads up the NBA had.

466
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Speaker 14: I'm sure they knew it before I did, but I'm

467
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Speaker 14: not sure that's how the FEDS operate.

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Speaker 2: What's the worst accusation pertaining to the NBA in your opinion.

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Speaker 14: I don't think that this is a scandal that rocks

470
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Speaker 14: the NBA to its core. I know that there are

471
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Speaker 14: people that are going to use it to say that,

472
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Speaker 14: and certainly their association with sports betting can be called

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Speaker 14: into question, as all people associated with sports can be

474
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Speaker 14: a ESPNS can be.

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Speaker 4: This.

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Speaker 14: Really there's two accusations here, and I think the poker

477
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Speaker 14: stuff is fascinating. I mean, you know, this is right

478
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Speaker 14: out of a movie. You're talking about mob stuff, You're

479
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Speaker 14: talking about cheating at poker games, rigging poker games. That

480
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Speaker 14: was all interesting at the press conference. None of that

481
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Speaker 14: has anything to do with the NBA. Now there are

482
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Speaker 14: potentially NBA people who were at these games. I'm sort

483
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Speaker 14: of fascinated that the Justice Department seems interested in protecting

484
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Speaker 14: the rights of people playing in illegal poker games, like

485
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Speaker 14: they're worried about the victims playing illegal poker games. But

486
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Speaker 14: that's for another day. But the Genavizy crime family or

487
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Speaker 14: whatever I laughed out loud about four times at that

488
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Speaker 14: press conference, that has nothing to do with the NBA.

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Speaker 14: There's two different cases here. They were tied together in

490
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Speaker 14: the announcement, and I understand why they did that. Within

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Speaker 14: the case against the folks involved with the NBA, there

492
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Speaker 14: are two different accusations. One is that that that two

493
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Speaker 14: players took themselves out of games so their unders would hit.

494
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Speaker 14: Both of them were publicly known. John Tay Porter has

495
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Speaker 14: already played guilty UH and has probably been an informant

496
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Speaker 14: on this case. The other Terry Rogier, was known and

497
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Speaker 14: was investigated by the league, and he continued to play.

498
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Speaker 14: And that's definitely something the league has to address, and

499
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Speaker 14: I will I talked to Lee about that, and I'll

500
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Speaker 14: tell you in a minute what they said. That is

501
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Speaker 14: certainly a concern. That is not something that was new news.

502
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Speaker 14: It was new that Terry Rogier got federal charges, but

503
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Speaker 14: that was not new, So can you can be upset

504
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Speaker 14: by that, but it was something the league was already

505
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Speaker 14: aware of. The other thing that was accused was three

506
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Speaker 14: different individuals were accused of leaking information two betters about

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Speaker 14: who's going to be available in the games. One was

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Speaker 14: John cy Bill up one with Damon Jones, and one

509
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Speaker 14: is an indirect Orlando Magic player that was unnamed or

510
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Speaker 14: the Magic player told somebody who told somebody else, and

511
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Speaker 14: they don't even indict anybody there. And that has been

512
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Speaker 14: a soft target for the NBA DAN for decades. The

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Speaker 14: team decides or knows when a star player or any

514
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Speaker 14: player is going to play in the morning usually and

515
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Speaker 14: then doesn't reflect it on the injury report because they're

516
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Speaker 14: worried about strategy and letting the other team know, and

517
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Speaker 14: there's this window of hours where there's inside information available.

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Speaker 14: People have exploited that for decades and that is what

519
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Speaker 14: Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones are being accused of. There's

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Speaker 14: a problem the NBA has tried to address. They've tightened

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Speaker 14: their injury reporting rules, they've fined teams for not following them,

522
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Speaker 14: but there's still a window there that can be exploited

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Speaker 14: and that's what this is. So it's definitely serious. The

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Speaker 14: NBA has got to worry about prop betting, and the

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Speaker 14: Adam Silver has talked about this. This is the addressing

526
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Speaker 14: of a problem that has existed for a long time.

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Speaker 14: It's not nothing, but I don't think it's like a

528
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Speaker 14: scandal that's rocking the league. They're going to have to

529
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Speaker 14: change some policies, but it's and it's mostly shocking that

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Speaker 14: it ensnares a Hall of Famer like Chauncey Billups. And

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Speaker 14: let's wait and see who else might get involved with

532
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Speaker 14: a poker because NBA guys like to play poker and

533
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Speaker 14: they're not all in casinos, so I'll see about that.

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Speaker 14: But this is huge headlines, but I'm not sure that

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Speaker 14: this is the dire scandal that it may seem if

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Speaker 14: you just watched the press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Brian Windhorst of ESPN, senior NBA writer, the

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Speaker 2: one that stood out was Chauncey Billups letting somebody know

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Speaker 2: that he was going to be arresting his starters that

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Speaker 2: they were quote unquote tanking. That to me is troubling

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Speaker 2: because that's from a head coach. That's not a former

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Speaker 2: player like Damon Jones. That's a head coach. So that's

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Speaker 2: the one that's the most troubling for me.

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Speaker 14: I would agree, I would agree, and I would say

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Speaker 14: that in the indictment, and I'm only going by what's

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Speaker 14: in the indictment, Dan, and I will tell you the

547
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Speaker 14: indictments about forty pages long. I read the indictment from

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Speaker 14: front to back, and I'm not sure how many people

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Speaker 14: who are talking about the indictment actually read it. Okay,

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Speaker 14: So in the indictment, it doesn't accuse Chauncey Billups of

551
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Speaker 14: selling the information. It does accuse Damon Jones of selling

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Speaker 14: the information. In fact, in the indictment that names Chauncey

553
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Speaker 14: Billup actually doesn't name him. For a first tie was

554
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Speaker 14: co conspirator eight, but then gives his resume. It practically

555
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Speaker 14: gives a social Security number. It's very clear who it is.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't say that he did it for money. It

557
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Speaker 14: doesn't say what he did it for.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 14: Let's if it comes out that he knew that this

560
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Speaker 14: individual that he told was going to sell it to betters.

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Speaker 14: That's really bad. If if if he had some sort

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Speaker 14: of you know, maybe he owed somebody money and did

563
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Speaker 14: it as a favor, If there was some sort of

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Speaker 14: return from that, then I think you're looking at something serious.

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Speaker 14: If it was just Chauncey having loose lips, and that

566
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Speaker 14: loose lips leading to hundreds of tens of thousand dollars

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Speaker 14: in betting winnings, that's different. The FBI does not accuse

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Speaker 14: him of selling it. The FBI accuses Damon Jones of

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Speaker 14: selling it. In fact, the FBI says that Damon sold

570
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Speaker 14: information on Lakers players to multiple games, and one of

571
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Speaker 14: the games proved to be wrong. The betters lost the bet,

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Speaker 14: and the guys wanted their money back. So I am

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Speaker 14: gonna it is very upsetting that Chauncey is involved in this.

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Speaker 14: The league has to take serious action as it involves

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Speaker 14: with their public information versus private information on player availability.

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Speaker 14: But I am not going to sit here and say,

577
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Speaker 14: oh my god, this is the end of the NBA

578
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Speaker 14: and everything's got to be reevaluated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we have the headlines and their juicy,

580
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Speaker 2: and you're right, we don't do deep dives much anymore.

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Speaker 2: If you're Adam Silver, what would be your game plan

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Speaker 2: if you were advising him?

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Speaker 14: Yeah. So the first thing I would say is the

584
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Speaker 14: thing that the league is going to have to address

585
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Speaker 14: is why Terry Rogier was investigated by the league and

586
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Speaker 14: was allowed to keep playing. And when the Feds investigat them,

587
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Speaker 14: they ended up indicting them. That the league has a

588
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Speaker 14: little bit of egg on its face on this one.

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Speaker 14: So I asked a question of the league, how did

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Speaker 14: that happen? And this is the answer that they gave

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Speaker 14: me on the record. League spokesman Mike Bass I'll tell

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Speaker 14: you his name, but he's speaking for the Adam Silver. Basically,

593
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Speaker 14: it's that the NBA is not the Justice Department. They

594
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Speaker 14: can't do wire taps, they can't have witnesses roll over

595
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Speaker 14: on each other, they can't get access to everybody's text messages.

596
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Speaker 14: Then they can do investigation. They can you know, they

597
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Speaker 14: can get some access to some people's phones. They can

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Speaker 14: do investigations in terms of you know, asking people and

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Speaker 14: and sort of threatening them and whatever. And I even

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Speaker 14: asked them, I go, well, what did you do in

601
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Speaker 14: your investigation? And they say, we're not going to say

602
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Speaker 14: what we did because we don't want everybody to know

603
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Speaker 14: the taxics we use. But they certainly don't have the

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Speaker 14: Justice Department. And that sounds a little upsetting, but it's

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Speaker 14: also candid. You know, the NBA saying we're not the

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Speaker 14: Justice Department is a candid answer. It's not a satisfactory answer,

607
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Speaker 14: but it's a candid answer. So now what Adam Silver

608
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Speaker 14: is going to have to do is explain what the

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Speaker 14: league can do. Okay, they can't be the Justice Department,

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Speaker 14: but now it's incumbent on him, but what they can

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Speaker 14: do in these types of investigations. And then here's something

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Speaker 14: that's just got to be simple, Dan, I've actually talked

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Speaker 14: about this for years. They've just got to be more

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Speaker 14: honest with injuries. That the teams cover up injuries for

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Speaker 14: strategic reasons. I'm not asking them to reveal a player's

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Speaker 14: exact health information and violate hippo laws, but if forty

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Speaker 14: people in the team organization. Forty people want to shoot

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Speaker 14: around that morning and know that the star player is

619
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Speaker 14: not playing at six o'clock or at seven o'clock. They

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Speaker 14: need to tell the world that. And sometimes it is

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Speaker 14: a game time decision. Sometimes a star player has to

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Speaker 14: go out there and stretch out and see how his

623
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Speaker 14: calf fields, and see how's wrist field or whatnot. Sometimes

624
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Speaker 14: the concussion protocol isn't determined until closer to the game.

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Speaker 14: So say that, you know, but there is this soft

626
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Speaker 14: target that the NBA has had for decades. I mean

627
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 14: reporters are asked to operate in that field all the time.

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Speaker 14: We are asked, you know, to come on television and

629
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Speaker 14: say whether Lebron James is playing or not because maybe

630
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Speaker 14: we happen to know that he went through shoot around

631
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Speaker 14: or something like. Of love's nature. That is something that

632
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Speaker 14: the game was tried to get the information and have

633
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Speaker 14: gotten that information for decades. So the NBA has got

634
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Speaker 14: to tighten that, and this investigation is probably going to

635
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Speaker 14: force them to do it. They have tightened it some.

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Speaker 14: They haven't just put their hands in their pockets. When

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Speaker 14: sports betting came in, they changed their rules, but the

638
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 14: rules haven't gone far enough, and this accusation is in

639
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Speaker 14: the cracks that there are still people operating in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to get rid of prop that's you know,

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Speaker 2: especially college athletes. They should not be involved with prop bets.

642
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Speaker 2: There's enough pressure there. I don't know if I mean,

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Speaker 2: are we too far down the road that if the

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Speaker 2: NBA said to FanDuel DraftKings whoever Vegas, no more prop bets,

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Speaker 2: do they have any authority to do that.

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Speaker 14: That's not my end of the business. I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 14: I would say though, that, like I've not seen gambling

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Speaker 14: walk back in one. Iota may maybe at some point

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Speaker 14: it will have to be just for society, but I've

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Speaker 14: only seen it go one way, and I think you're right.

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Speaker 14: I think the people that are that are most susceptible

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Speaker 14: to being compromised are people who have nothing to lose. Okay,

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Speaker 14: A lot of NBA players have a lot to lose. Okay,

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Speaker 14: Even John tay Porter, who was holding on to the

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Speaker 14: NBA by the skin of his teeth, had a lot

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Speaker 14: to lose. College players, there are certain college players who

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Speaker 14: know their careers are not going anywhere, who don't have

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Speaker 14: anything to lose. And so that's college's softs spot. Before

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Speaker 14: I covered the NBA, I covered the min American Conference. Okay,

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Speaker 14: there's a ton of players in that conference whose careers

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Speaker 14: are going to end and where they're at, they have

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Speaker 14: nothing to lose. That's a soft spot for college. That

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Speaker 14: may has not been a scandal yet, but I'd be

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Speaker 14: worried about it, just like you can find me talking

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Speaker 14: about this this gap that where the NBA, you know,

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Speaker 14: the game time decision gap. I've talked about that over

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Speaker 14: the years. This indictment surprised me in terms of Chauncey

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Speaker 14: Billups being involved, it did not surprise me that this

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Speaker 14: is the spot where gamblers could take advantage.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, have a good weekend, Thanks

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Speaker 2: for taking time. Thank wading here. It's Brian Winhorse, ESPN,

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Speaker 2: Senior NBA writer. I remember being at the NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: and somebody had told me some information and yeah, I

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Speaker 2: wasn't passing it on. I'm not a gambler, but it

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Speaker 2: was valuable information to a gambler, and I you know,

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Speaker 2: I didn't really think about it, and they probably didn't

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Speaker 2: think about it either. But if you put that in

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Speaker 2: the wrong hands, you know, that's that's when you have

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Speaker 2: situations like this because and you know, Brian brings up

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Speaker 2: great things, you know, like Chefty's going to find out

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Speaker 2: a lot of information, but he's got to be really

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Speaker 2: careful in what he says with that information because the

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Speaker 2: amount of money that's bet and you're talking about sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's a half point, now, the over under point spread, injury,

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Speaker 2: who's hurt, who might not play, who's not going to

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Speaker 2: be a hundred? Like just little things. And how many

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Speaker 2: times do these games come down to, hey, usc Notre Dame?

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Speaker 2: What was the point spread? Nine and a half? Notre Dame?

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Speaker 2: One by ten? And that's where people get misconstrued on

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Speaker 2: oh it's fixed. No, that's Vegas doing its job. Vegas

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Speaker 2: isn't fixing these games. Vegas is really good at telling

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Speaker 2: you this is what's going to happen. And that was

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Speaker 2: a classic example. Is that so weird?

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Speaker 6: Wh do you though?

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Speaker 2: I know? People? How are they that good? I know?

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Speaker 2: But people like that's why it's fixed, you know, ten

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Speaker 2: points spread and they had it at nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: I give them credit. That's why I don't bet. I

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Speaker 2: can't beat him. Take a break. The most must win

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Speaker 2: game of the weekend. We'll have that for you coming up.

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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls after this. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 2: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

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Speaker 2: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six

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Speaker 2: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream

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Speaker 2: us live on the Peacock app. Nothing like King Sawaian

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Speaker 2: sliders Sundays to enjoy the NFL games with friends and

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Speaker 2: family and football all he hates alliteration. Make that watch

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Speaker 2: party or tailgates special a great one. Pick up King

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Speaker 2: Sawaian this weekend. Sliding into the weekend, Let's see, we

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Speaker 2: got A and M against LSU. Wow. A and M

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Speaker 2: is favored in that game. Can you imagine if Brian

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Speaker 2: Kelly loses another game before he goes into maybe the

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Speaker 2: tougher part of their schedule. A and M is favored

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Speaker 2: by two and a half at LSU. See that's one

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Speaker 2: of those that screams LSU. Yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 7: LSU has lost two of their last three. They got

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Speaker 7: A and M at Alabama, a spicy Arkansas squad, and

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Speaker 7: then they finished with Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss and Oklahoma so Ole Miss runs the football

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Speaker 2: usually think Lane Kiffin, I'm going to pass the ball.

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Speaker 2: So you have baseball. You have game one tonight, Game

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Speaker 2: two on Saturday, Timberwolves at the Lakers. That's Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 2: against Luka Doncic and Bears Ravens. And you have the

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Speaker 2: Ravens favored by six and a half at home against

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Speaker 2: a four and two Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears contenders or

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Speaker 2: pen there's.

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Speaker 7: Is there something between those two because they're neither.

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Speaker 2: I think they're contenders.

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Speaker 7: I don't think their contention to do any real damage

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Speaker 7: in the NFC playoffs, Okay, and they're not a bad team.

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Speaker 7: There's gotta be some type of in between.

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Speaker 2: Slide into the weekend with a slighter Sunday courtesy at Kingswaian.

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Speaker 2: You'll find them in the Bakery Deai section of your

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Speaker 2: local grocery store. Time to play Best Week in Sports?

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Speaker 2: Who had the best week in sports? By the way,

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Speaker 2: the most must win game of the weekend, Next hour,

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Speaker 2: Next hour, Todd Who had the best week in sports?

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Speaker 4: George Springer and the Toronto Blue Jayson in thirty two

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Speaker 4: years That three run homer and they are taking on

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers starting tonight.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 6: I like that seatan best week in sports, Victor webin Yama.

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Speaker 6: He's back back in a big way from some pretty

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Speaker 6: serious health concerns too. What do you have like forty

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Speaker 6: fifteen and something.

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Speaker 2: Ye, it's a great way to announce you are back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's one of those they forget. Oh what was he

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Speaker 2: out for? Blood clots? You know that's not one of

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Speaker 2: those high ankle springs.

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Speaker 6: Some kind of thrombosis situation. That's never good, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with the Oklahoma City thunder SGA, that

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Speaker 8: whole crew. They raised their banner opening night. They won

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Speaker 8: two straight double overtime games, and shay Gil just had

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Speaker 8: fifty five last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you said ninety five in the first

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Speaker 2: two games, Paulie.

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Speaker 7: This is simple, but it's Shoho Tani. The game last

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Speaker 7: Friday was all timer and a reminder to everybody. He's

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Speaker 7: gonna win the NL MVP in the next few weeks.

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Speaker 7: He's got to be an incredible overwhelming odds to win

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Speaker 7: World Series MVP.

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Speaker 2: But when did the week start that we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: because that was a week ago. Tonight best month though, works.

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Speaker 6: I Sometimes I'll go back Friday to Friday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I just wanted I didn't know what our

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Speaker 2: definition of a week one just under the wire. Does

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Speaker 2: it start on Sunday or Monday?

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Speaker 6: It starts Friday at noon, Friday at noon, because that's

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Speaker 6: when we're off the air. So our weekend starts Friday

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Speaker 6: at noon. You can go Friday right up until this

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Speaker 6: Friday morning. That's how I determined that one.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I mean, just ask a question. That's what

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Speaker 2: I do for a living. Do you want to give

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Speaker 2: us an update on the poll results? Do I want to?

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Speaker 2: Will you? Yes? I will affter the Oh wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: well that's going to keep everybody. Oh yeah. And then

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Speaker 2: John Tesh is going to join us and he's going

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Speaker 2: to play round Ball rock for us. Todd, you're not singing,

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Speaker 2: We're we're not singing. And the most must win game

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Speaker 2: of the weekend, we'll have that for you as well.

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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls. Fritzy Seat and Marv Paula,

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Speaker 2: yours truly the final hour in this meet Friday after

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Speaker 2: this