1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Kel's we can review with Ryan kel Kelly and now 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: here's kel. Great white sharks have sex nice and they 4 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: do it face to face or maybe chin to chin 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: outside of a little biting. Great white coitus is depending 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: on how you would look at it. Maybe not the 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: reason you call them great. We know a great deal 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: about great whites. They take a long time to hit 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: sexual maturity, males about twenty six years, females about thirty three. 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: They can live to almost seventy years of age, making 11 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: them one of the oldest living cartilaginous fishes, and at 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the tippy top of their weight class, they can be 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: as large as five thousand pounds and twenty feet in length. 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: They are the primary predator of mammals in the ocean, 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: meaning you don't want to be a seal around a 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: great white. Yet. Where and how great whites mate has 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: been described in some academic circles as the holy Grail, 18 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: for the reason that you cannot fully understand an animal 19 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: if you don't know how they got to be. One 20 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: theory is they migrate to mid ocean deep water, do 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: their mating there, and then disperse across the rest of 22 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: the ocean. This would explain the lack of intimate scenes 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: and the iconic great white tailed Jaws, and also Jaws 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: two through four for that matter. I'm kidding, of course, 25 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Jaws is full of inaccuracies. The lack of a great 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: white copulation scene, it wouldn't have corrected things even if 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: it were done accurately. First observed off the coast of 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Nugget Point, Southland, New Zealand, by a seal researcher, who 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: described watching two great whites off a sandbar. Things apparently 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: started aggressively, then eventually the pair slowly spun together belly 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: to belly. The observation lasted forty minutes. The copulation uh 32 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: time remains unknown. More recently, in a fisherman named Ledgerwood, 33 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: this reporting, done by The Guardian, had witnessed the same event, 34 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: also very shallow, on a spit of sand. He described 35 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the rolling and rolling and rolling of two twelve thirteen 36 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: foot sharks in about the same depth of water. They 37 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: appeared unfazed by the presence of Ledgerwood and his boat. 38 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: He said he probably wouldn't have been deterred either way. 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: To be captain Ledgerwood. It's just swimming with bow legged women. 40 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Although with only two sightings no photo or video documentation, 41 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: we still don't know scientifically speaking, exactly how great whites made. 42 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: It does appear that we're getting closer, and it does 43 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: seem like if you're one of those people that have, 44 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: let's say, a bumper sticker that says great whites do 45 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: it deep, you may want to get rid of that, 46 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, all seriousness. The great white shark, in their 47 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: distinct populations are listed as threatened in certain parts of 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: the ocean. If we can determine where and of course 49 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: how these incredible sharks mate, we can protect those areas 50 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: and ensure the longevity of the species. This week we've 51 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: got expensive fish, p s as wolves, and so much more. 52 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: But first I want to tell you about my week. 53 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: My week and this podcast is sponsored by Steel Power Equipment. 54 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: If you're considering a new saw or tool to impose 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: the will of man against the backyard elements, choose Steel. 56 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: You'll get a fantastic product made and sold by great people, 57 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: and you'll be supporting this podcast. That's a win win 58 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: win scenario. As you may or may not know, it 59 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: is Elk season that time of the year where the 60 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: elk scream, grunt, mew, cry, whistle, stomp and smash things, 61 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: including themselves in order to get the opportunity to reproduce. 62 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: On top of that madness, birds like hungarian partridge, quail, pheasants, 63 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: chucker grouse are all extra active, trying to pack on 64 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: pounds for the winter as our bear trout and are 65 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: late maters. The deer, of course, as the cold starts 66 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: to push down the cranes, geese, ducks, rails and swans 67 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: will come with it. Fall is just the best time 68 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: of year and the most painful. All good things happen 69 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: in just a couple of months, and then there is, 70 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the year. I'm very happy 71 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: to report that, with the production of two more batches 72 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: of sausage, my freezer will once again be open for receiving. 73 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: We did a thirteen own batch of white wine garlic 74 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: tie basil, a ten pound batch of sweet Italian, a 75 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: ten pound batch of marguez, and I have another block 76 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: of about thirty pounds to go. Uh what does one 77 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: do with all of this sausage, you may ask, I 78 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: pretty much just give it away. It's the most expensive 79 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: stuff in the freezer, both in my time ingredients, hog 80 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: and lamb casings, the amount of time you got to 81 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: take to wash and thought and dry everything. But it's 82 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: also the most self explanatory. I can hand out neatly 83 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: packaged sausage to non game eaters or folks who just 84 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: can't cook, and they end up happy. It's an odd cycle. Folks, 85 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: happy fall. I'm very excited, and you know, so Snort 86 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: the dog. She's still a puppy, of course, but she'll 87 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: be eventually a dog. She's starting to turn into a 88 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: retrieving machine, and I'm really excited to see what her 89 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: first impressions of wild birds will be. Good luck out there, 90 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: and be courteous. Moving on to the public service announcement desk. 91 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: If you've been treading the elk woods, or walking the fields, 92 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: or fishing, or doing anything else outside, you have probably 93 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: come across one of the most despised bits of trash 94 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: in the outdoors. And no, I'm not talking about surface pooh. 95 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about latex or milar balloons, that piece of 96 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: sometimes deadly litter that floats away to parts unknown. I 97 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: have picked up solo, lonesome looking balloons, balloons with best 98 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: wishes and happy Birthday on them, both in English and Spanish. 99 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Even clusters of six to ten balloons in far removed 100 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: places very few people have seen. These clusters were in 101 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: color combinations that somehow said I graduated from the high 102 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: school or college, yet I am still not educated enough 103 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: to hang onto a freaking balloon. There is no such 104 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: thing as a good balloon. Recently the universe the Tasmania 105 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,559 Speaker 1: Australia set out to prove just that. Spoiler alert. Even 106 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: the so called eco friendly brands that boasted on biodegradable 107 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: and natural don't break down in soil to any degree. 108 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: After sixteen weeks. In salt water, they'll gain a little mass, 109 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: but in either case they can still be consumed by 110 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: our wildlife. Just stop buying balloons. If you need a 111 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: replacement gift or gesture, do as I do. Go with 112 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: something that is edible or drinkable or handmade, not something that, 113 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: under the best of circumstances ends up in a landfill 114 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: within twenty four hours. There are better ways to spend 115 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: that hard earned dollar, folks, like investing. Maybe in karp 116 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: next up, but sticking with the PSA's desk, don't start fires. 117 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Washington state has noted a dramatic increase in human cause fire, 118 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: as has California and Oregon. Anecdotal observations are pointing to 119 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: first time campers in the woods. But let's be honest, 120 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: careless is careless, and if you look at what is 121 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: going on in the West right now, firewise, a lot 122 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: of this could have been prevented. The US Force Service 123 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: already reports that over of wild land fires are human caused, 124 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: and that number isn't even taking into account this year's fires. 125 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: On a related note, the National Parks Observer reports an 126 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: Arizona man's plea deal of over fifty three thousand dollars 127 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: plus community service after his attempt to burn his toilet 128 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: paper in the Grand Canyon, which caused at acre burn 129 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: within the park. Part of the plea agreement for the 130 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: seventy two year old man is to help educate park 131 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: visitors on the dangers of burning your toilet paper, which 132 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: definitely suggests this person as a retiree or just has 133 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: a heart of gold when it comes to the National Parks. 134 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: I know the desert landscape is delicate, but I would 135 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: suggest a lighter sentence if the poope trader here is 136 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: actually willing to do this. Can you imagine the conversation. Hey, kids, 137 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: let me tell you why you shouldn't burn toilet paper. 138 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: Why were you burning toilet paper? Well, yeah, it's going 139 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: to be a learning experience and very impactful. In all seriousness, 140 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: camp fire really isn't necessary to enjoy your time outdoors 141 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: for the majority of the year, if not all of 142 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: the year. If the conditions are ultra dry, windy, or 143 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: you are just unsure, go without. Don't drive your vehicle 144 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: and tall grass or off designated roads, and don't smoke. 145 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: Moving on to the investment desk. This segment brought to 146 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: you by Monica Jones of Edward Jones. I'm just kidding. 147 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: Monica is a financial planner. She just isn't hip on 148 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: this subject. I mean, I'm not even sure or if 149 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: that's true. Actually, she just maybe playing Koi. That's right, kids, 150 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: It's time to pick up a fishing rod, grab some 151 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: bait balls, and invest your time and carp Why a 152 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: Koi carp sold for one point eight million dollars. Rice 153 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: farmers started raisingki to help clean their rice fields and eat. Eventually, 154 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: I think because of lack of anything better to do, 155 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: the farmers took more interest in them and started selectively 156 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: breeding them for ornamental purposes. Known as living jewels. These 157 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: koi are hands selected, starting with millions of tiny fish 158 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: that the farmer then has to whittle down to a 159 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: manageable number. Some farmers raise only a thousand fish a year, 160 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: but they get there through a grueling selection process. The 161 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: fisher fed a special, high quality diet and kept in 162 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the cleanest water. All of this ideally produces a nice glow. 163 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Even this tribution of spots and colors red and white 164 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: are particularly sought after as well as a nice shape. 165 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Breeders keep meticulous track of their lineages, making coi breeding 166 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: extremely similar to dog breeding. For instance, there are two 167 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: hundred registered dog breeds and a hundred and seventy coi breeds. 168 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Maybe this is something we'll look into when Aki can 169 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: bring a bird back. One point eight million dollars is 170 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: the biggest price tag to date, but coi routinely go 171 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: for thousands, tens of thousands, and of course much more. 172 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: Sure these fish are coddled, that's a fish punt for you. 173 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: But these fish are still carp you know, the same 174 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: ones we shoot or occasionally flip up on the bank. 175 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: Just a side note for those that are interested, the 176 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: one point eight million dollar carps sold at nine years 177 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: of age, so you'll want to plan ahead. Moving on 178 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: and to the State of Colorado Desk and their ongoing 179 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: wolf debate. Simply put, will Colorado seek to reintroduce wolves 180 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: to the state or take a hands off approach and 181 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: see if the handful of wolves that have already wandered 182 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: into the state will start to reproduce and spread on 183 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: their own. The goal in either case would be to 184 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: have a genetically viable, healthy wolf population. In other words, 185 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: wolves will be in Colorado. What we're arguing over is 186 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: how and on what timeline. Genetically viable is a number 187 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: that is arguable. It could be as low as one 188 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: hundred wolves or as high as two fifty wolves, as 189 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: we have covered a couple of times now, I am 190 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: pro nature take its course, you know, just like in 191 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: Jurassic Park where those darned dinos were engineered to be infertile, 192 00:12:53,320 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: but life finds a way. Mike Phillips is a consultant 193 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: for the Rocky Mountain Wolf Action Fund and the Rocky 194 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: Mountain Wolf Project, both pro reintroduction, the latter being wolf 195 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: education focused as opposed to wolf reintroduction lobbying legislation focused. 196 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: Mike has a long list of bona fides. He's a 197 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: biologist who has worked on wolves and reintroductions of wolves 198 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: for some forty years. He is pro reintroduction, and his 199 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: name is mentioned in almost every article on this subject. 200 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: So I reached out to him to ask, how can 201 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: we reintroduce something that is already there? And what the 202 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: heck is the benefit to reintroducing wolves? Which is a 203 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: subject that can get me in a fight in all 204 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: sorts of ways along the Rocky Mountains. Question one, what 205 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: is a population? According to the Federal Endangered Species Act, which, 206 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: if you've been paying attention, the Trump administration has asked 207 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: to delist the gray wolf in the lower forty eight. 208 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: The gray wolf has been above its population objective for 209 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: years now and is currently delisted in Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. 210 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: Section ten J of the Endangered Species Act allows for 211 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: reintroduction of a species only when the species in question 212 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: does not have two or more reproducing populations for a 213 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: period of two years, which Colorado officially does not. The 214 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: current pack located in Colorado isn't even officially a pack. 215 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: A wolf pup survey is going to take place this 216 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: spring to see if pups are present. If they are, 217 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: and my gut says there will be, that is only 218 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: one population. The other factor to consider in Section ten 219 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: J the Endangered Species Act, and I found this interesting 220 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: so pay attention is that they reintroduced species needs to 221 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: be geographically disconnected from members of the species already within 222 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: the state. The reason and for this is and obviously 223 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: Colorado is our example here. The current wolves living in 224 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Colorado are protected by both state and federal Endangered Species Act. 225 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Reintroduced wolves would be managed by the state. Keeping these 226 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: two populations separate would allow for separate management plans, which 227 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: more or less brings us to question two. How could 228 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: this be a good thing? And for those of you 229 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: in areas of Colorado where the elk numbers are falling 230 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: largely due to there being too many dang people and 231 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: trails in the woods and e bikes and snowmobiles and 232 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: back country skiers, hikers, hunters, horseback riders never given these 233 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: animals a break. The answer, according to Mike, is this, 234 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: and keep in mind that this is being slightly interpreted 235 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: by yours truly, if we set the table with our 236 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: wolves that lack the federal Endangered Species Act protections, then 237 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: the management of those wolves will be much less restrictive 238 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: to the various user groups and interests hunters to hikers 239 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: to ranchers. Now that means the wolf management plan will 240 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: likely piss everyone off ideally somewhat equally, if the as 241 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: soon as they cross the state line, endangered wolves keep 242 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: slowly building their own numbers in the state, the various 243 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: interest groups could potentially be hindered by their presence more 244 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: severely for a longer period of time. That's why interests 245 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: fight like hell to keep animals off of the Endangered 246 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: Species Act. The human obstacles to natural wolf migration into 247 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Colorado are many, and this is obviously a human tolerance issue. 248 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: I still love the idea of these animals doing it 249 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: on their own. It is a much cooler story. I 250 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: also think of how we treat our animals in accordance 251 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: with their labels varmint, furbearer, endangered, big game, small game, 252 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: upland game. For instance, if you are a turkey hunter, 253 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: pheasant hunter, quail hunter, rainbow trout, any sort of trout fisher, 254 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: elk hunter, you can't really look anyone in the eye 255 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: and say you are anti reintroduction of a species. You do, however, 256 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: have a say in how these animals get there. The 257 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: vote to reintroduce wolves in Colorado is proposition one fourteen. 258 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: Mike Phillips does admit that much like in Jurassic Park, life, 259 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: if given enough space and time, will find a way. 260 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: But in this case, and in his opinion, it would 261 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: be two steps forward and one step back for a 262 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: long freaking time pile. Next stop the Florida desk. Remember 263 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: when teenage mutant turtles were just pizza eating, seward dwelling superheroes. 264 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: Now biologists with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission 265 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: are showing off their own near mutant One dred pound 266 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: male swani alligator snapping turtle caught with a hoop net 267 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: trap in the New River north of Gainesville. There were 268 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: actually three of these crazy looking reptiles found, including a 269 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: forty six pound female and another male weighing in at 270 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: sixty four pounds. Researchers estimate that the trio is anywhere 271 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: from forty to eighty years old. What do they look like? Well, 272 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: if you're a Star Wars fan, I'd say job of 273 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: the hut with a shell. These snappers, which were first 274 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: discovered in two thousand fourteen and are now classified as 275 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: endangered sports scary looking beak like jaws, a thick spiked shell, 276 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: and girthy tales. Folks have taken to calling them the 277 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: dinosaur of the turtle world, which makes sense because they'd 278 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: be at home in your local natural history museum next 279 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: to the right fossils. Up until recently, it was believed 280 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 1: there was only one species of the largest freshwater turtle 281 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: in North America, but now researchers have another to study. 282 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Alligator snapping turtles aren't all looks, though they hunt with 283 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: a cool ambush technique. They sit motionless while presenting a 284 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: bright pink vermiform appendage on the very tip of their 285 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: tongue to draw in prey. The inside of their mouths 286 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: are camouflaged so before long snap and its lights out. 287 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Their job power is impressive, easily snapping a broom handle, 288 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: so you can imagine what would it do to your 289 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: finger or toes. Despite that power, the worry with the 290 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Swanee breed is that the New River, which comprises the 291 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: bulk of their limited habitat, is a black water stream 292 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: with low biological productivity. Basically, we got big turtles in 293 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: a small stream. Any major pollution event or further creep 294 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: of habitat loss can do a number on them. Here's 295 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: hoping that shining a spotlight on these incredibly cool critters 296 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: will give them plenty of room to move slowly into 297 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: the future. Next up from the very seldom I swear 298 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: visited adult film desk. Who says the porn industry doesn't 299 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: care about nature? I mean, who says that? Really? Probably 300 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: nobody ever. But I've got no idea how to introduce 301 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: a story about a scrotum frog in Lake Titti, Coca 302 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: and a porn site that's raising money to save it. 303 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: I'll pause here to let you make your own jokes 304 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: before we move on. Do you get that all out 305 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: of your system? Good? All right, let's face the facts. 306 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: In honor of National Wildlife Day, on Friday, September four, 307 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: webcam focus porn site I am Live launched a fundraising 308 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: campaign to save the so called scrotum frog, a South 309 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: American amphibian that looks like those loose skin pouches that 310 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: holds a man testicles. Why here at I am live, 311 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: we care deeply about the environment and are toad only 312 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: excited about helping the preservation of wildlife, said Adrian Stoneman. 313 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: I am LIVE Vice president. We're asking our whole community 314 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: to turn their attention to and help save a different 315 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: type of scrotum, a majestic species that once swelled in 316 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: numbers within Lake titty Kaka before commercial industries initiated their demise. 317 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: That's a quote. Sure, this is a silly publicity stunt, 318 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: but it's also going to make some money to impact 319 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: the recently endangered tell Motobias culius, commonly known as the 320 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: titty Coca water frog. The species is known for its 321 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: large size and for the many folds increases in its 322 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: skin that make for an appropriate comparison to the testicular sack. 323 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: The International Union for the Conservation of Nature recently reported 324 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: an approximately eight to decline of the species from to 325 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: two thousand four. Conservationists know that this frog is an 326 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: indicator species, which means it is key to the Lake 327 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: Tittikaka region between Peru and Bolivia. You know, like lets 328 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: you know if things are good or bad. The scrotum 329 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: frog is essential to ecological health in the thirty two 330 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: hundred square mile lake in the andes. In two thousand nineteen, 331 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: the i u c N changed the frog status from 332 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: critically endangered to simply endangered. But that doesn't mean the 333 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: eighteen year old porn site can't help. I am Live 334 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: hopes to raise money for the Denver Zoo, which is 335 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: in the middle of a long fight to save these frogs. 336 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: I know you're wondering how the porn site is going 337 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: to raise the money. The site held a wild animal 338 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: themed digital party over Labor Day weekend and then gave 339 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: five percent of the proceeds to the zoo. In the 340 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: long list of things you can't make up about this story, 341 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: The party included live chats with women and very this 342 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: animal outfits. They dubbed it quote scroll toll. Recall, my 343 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: work is done here. I'm moving on before I do. 344 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: If you find errors in this story, uh sure. The 345 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is research was limited by the 346 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: fact that I only have a work computer. Nice moving 347 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: on to a warm and fuzzy outro for this week's podcast. 348 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: Italy's famous breakout bear Papillon has a story worthy of 349 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: the Shawshank Redemption. The three hundred and sixty eight pound 350 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: four year old brown bear, also known as m forty 351 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: nine has become well known across Europe after multiple escapes 352 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: from his enclosure at the Alpine Animal Care Center Castellar, 353 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: which calls itself a true haven for injured and sick 354 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: wild animals. Papillon didn't just stroll out of the center 355 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: either time. On July, he somehow got through multiple reinforced 356 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: barriers in his nine thousand square meter enclosure and even 357 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: removed a radio collar that he'd been wearing after a 358 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: separate escape attempt about a year ago. It was this 359 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: first escape where his legend started to grow. He's affectionately 360 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: named after the central character of the autobiographical novel by 361 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: French writer an escaped convict, Henry enri Charier. It said 362 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: that Papillon scaled three electric fences and a thirteen foot 363 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: wall to make it out, before spending two eighty nine 364 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: days on the lamp. When he was finally captured and returned, 365 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: he was castrated in a bid to calm him down. 366 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: That to me sounds like prison colony stuff, so it's 367 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: a fair comparison. It didn't work. Just two months later, 368 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: he authored his most recent escape and fled into the 369 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: nearby mountains, this time, like some wild West Outlaw that 370 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Beyond had a dead or alive bounty on his head. 371 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: Authorities said he was responsible for multiple livestock wings and 372 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: numerous intrusions into homes, shelters, and other buildings, confirming the 373 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: dangerous behavior towards humans. Luckily for him, the bear was 374 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: captured in a culvert trap last week and is now 375 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: back in captivity. Animal activists aren't happy with this result 376 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: and are calling for the bear to be released and monitored. 377 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: They say he has no threat to the public. World 378 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Wildlife Fund Italy claims that M forty nine is not 379 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: a danger to humans and has shown little aggression. That 380 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: seems like a pretty blue sky notion, especially if you're 381 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: a local homeowner with a giant brown bear digging in 382 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: your trash. But this is a famous bear with a name. 383 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: He even has a fan club. So, as we've seen 384 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: with other famous predators like Cecil the Lion, Happion's life 385 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: and death are destined to be controversial. Trent To's Governor 386 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: Maritio Fugati interrupted a council meeting to deliver the news 387 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: of the bear's latest escapade. He said through a spokesman 388 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: the fence was fortified despite that he was able to 389 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: break through the very resistant fence that was partially electric. 390 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: He had a desire to escape stronger than a six 391 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: thousand volt fence. The problem is he is too wild 392 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: and has a strong instinct to return to the forest. 393 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: He's stated the sadly obvious reality here, but for now 394 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: we'll just have to sit back and wait for the 395 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: next mission impossible style that beyond escape. Stay tuned. That's 396 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: all I've got for you this week. As always, thanks 397 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: for listening. Please let me know what I'm doing right, 398 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: what I'm doing wrong, and most importantly, what's going on 399 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: in your neck of the woods by writing in to 400 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: a s k c a L. That's asked Cal at 401 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: the Meat Eater dot com. I'll talk to you next week.