WEBVTT - The Tech of Firefighting

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm an editor at how stuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting across from me as usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an ordinary guy burning down the house. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the quotes are usually longer. So I took

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<v Speaker 1>a drink of water. You were done by the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was ready to spit. Um. So we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about firefighting technology. We actually had a request come

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<v Speaker 1>over Facebook for this and we wanted to. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a good request, you know, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting concept. We also, I think I got an email

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<v Speaker 1>about it as well. So we've had some some people

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<v Speaker 1>inquire about the technology used in firefighting, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>wide range of tech that we can talk about. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of it is stuff that is based off of technology

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<v Speaker 1>that's been around for more than a century, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of it is really like space age type stuff. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought I'd start with one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most iconic images when you think about firefighting, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course is the fire engine or fire truck. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually live not too far from a fire station,

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<v Speaker 1>and by not too far, I mean adjacent, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>so I get to see fire trucks a lot. As

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, they're pretty cool things. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the main uh, I think the main feature

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<v Speaker 1>on a fire truck has to be the water tank

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<v Speaker 1>that that it holds, you know, and and the water tanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on the size of the truck, the water tank

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<v Speaker 1>can be a different size as well. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not unusual to find a fire truck that can

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<v Speaker 1>hold a thousand gallon lens of water on its own.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that's important because there's no guarantee that

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<v Speaker 1>wherever the fire is is going to be close to

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<v Speaker 1>either a pool of water or a fire hydrant. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So a fire truck has to be able to carry

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<v Speaker 1>its own portable water supply. But having water on a

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<v Speaker 1>truck is not enough. You have to have a way

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<v Speaker 1>of getting that water out right, so you would need

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of pump. Yes, and uh and fire engines

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<v Speaker 1>have pumps. They have an impeller water pumps and an

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<v Speaker 1>impeller water pump is a diesel powered pump, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>got its own independent diesel engine and it has a

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<v Speaker 1>rotor like device that's got some curved blades on it

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<v Speaker 1>that spin in the water tank. Now, this actually slings

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<v Speaker 1>the water around starts to move it in a circular fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>It builds water pressure, and you relieve that water pressure

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<v Speaker 1>by allowing the water to escape through water lines also

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<v Speaker 1>known as hoses. So they have to go through a

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<v Speaker 1>valve and then it goes through the hose and at

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<v Speaker 1>the whatever is burning thing, whatever is burning thing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a technical term in the fire fighting trade. So

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<v Speaker 1>the whatever is burning thing gets deluged with water. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually some interesting controls on this. There's a series

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<v Speaker 1>of controls. There's a pump panel that allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>either manually control the pumps or some of them are automated.

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<v Speaker 1>They have like a Mastermind control system that actually does

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<v Speaker 1>this automatically. But a typical pump panel will have levers

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<v Speaker 1>on it that allow you to direct where the water

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<v Speaker 1>is going to go through, like which lines it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go through, and of course that's all going to

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<v Speaker 1>depend upon which lines have been connected to the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are lots of different kinds of water lines also,

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<v Speaker 1>and again when I say water lines there, those are

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the fire hoses, right. Yeah. These are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>different from your garden variety hoses, yes, because they can

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<v Speaker 1>handle a whole lot more pressure and deliver a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot more water. As Jonathan was saying just a moment ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be certain that you're going to be next

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<v Speaker 1>to a fire hydrant where the fire is and the

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<v Speaker 1>fire truck is going to park on the street. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if the building, let's say it's the building is burning

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<v Speaker 1>and it's away from the street, you've got to have

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<v Speaker 1>enough water pressure to get to the fire itself. So

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<v Speaker 1>the hoses are long, they're there. Uh, they've got some

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<v Speaker 1>diameter on them, so you can really carry the a

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<v Speaker 1>good amount of water and they've got to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to withstand a lot of pressure. Yeah, and they're also

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<v Speaker 1>they tend to be treated for a mildew resistance as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because one of the big problems with fire hoses before

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<v Speaker 1>the mildew resistant um film was developed was that you

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<v Speaker 1>had to dry them out after you use them, because

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you would have mildew develop it would start to

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<v Speaker 1>rot the hoses and then the hoses would not be stable.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have a hose rupture while you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fight a fire because it's been weakened by mildew. So uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of elements that go into creating these

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<v Speaker 1>these hoses, and I've got a few different types I

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about. Um, the there's usually there's a booster

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<v Speaker 1>line which is only about an inch diameter, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually used for small fires like, uh, a minor fire

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<v Speaker 1>inside a building or something like that, or a minor

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<v Speaker 1>brush fire even. Um, then you've got the cross lay hoses.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the main hoses. These are like the workhorses

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<v Speaker 1>of a fire engine. They're located below the pump panel

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<v Speaker 1>and they can pump up to gallons of water per minute. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They tend to be about two feet long and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a diameter of an inch and a half. So

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got the preconnect lines. So like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got all these valves that are attached

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<v Speaker 1>to the fire engine, and they're on all the different

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the fire engine because you never know where

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be able to orient the engine in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to the fire. Normally, there is Uh, there are at

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<v Speaker 1>least three lines that are pre connected when an engine

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<v Speaker 1>rolls out of the station, so that way the fire

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<v Speaker 1>fighters have a chance to immediately jump out of the

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<v Speaker 1>truck and start fighting the fire without having to fuss

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<v Speaker 1>with unloading hose, connecting it to the right valve, and

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<v Speaker 1>then engaging the valve and fighting the fire that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So preconnect lines tend to be between an inch and

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<v Speaker 1>a half to two inches in diameter, and they tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to pump out around two fifty gallons

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<v Speaker 1>of water per minute. Uh. You've got hoses that are

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<v Speaker 1>designed specifically to hook up to hydrants fire hydrants. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are five inches in diameter, and a fire engine may

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<v Speaker 1>carry up to a thousand feet of this hose, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's in one hundred foot segments. But there are also

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<v Speaker 1>other shorter segments called curb jumper hoses. So let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that the building that you need to get about a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty feet of hose to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>fire at whatever location you're at, and you're hooking it

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<v Speaker 1>up to a hydrant, you might not want to grab

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<v Speaker 1>two lengths of the hydrant hose that's two feet and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you don't only need a hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>um that that means you're going to have an extra

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<v Speaker 1>fifty feet of hose that you're gonna have to maneuver around. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>these curb jumper hose segments are typically in links between

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ft lengths and fifty ft lengths, so that way

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<v Speaker 1>it's easier just to grab a smaller section so that

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<v Speaker 1>you have enough length of hose to get to where

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<v Speaker 1>you're going without having excess. Then you've got your hose pack,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lighter hose. It's usually a smaller diameter,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what is used by firefighters if they

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<v Speaker 1>have to go into a building and climb up levels.

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<v Speaker 1>That has to be more portable. You've got the ladder line.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, most of these fire engines have a really

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<v Speaker 1>long ladder that's on the back of them. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a line that is part of that ladder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually it's it's uh a direct connection to the ladder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually built in. Yeah, it's built in, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is a nozzle at the top of the ladder that

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<v Speaker 1>can shoot out. Well, it's it's usually around three gallons

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<v Speaker 1>per minutes, so it's a pretty powerful hose. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your deluge gun or deck gun. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>mounted on the top of the pump panel. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that you know that if you ever look at

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<v Speaker 1>a fire engine, you see something that looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>turret that's on the fire engine. That's the thing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Alright, So we've been talking about hoses that

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<v Speaker 1>can shoot out between gallons and gallons of water the

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<v Speaker 1>day lug gun is no joke. We're talking a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>gallons a minute. Yeah. And you may say, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a thousand gallons at the tank, does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean that after a minute you've completely exhausted your water supply,

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<v Speaker 1>and the answers, well, yeah, that's what you're if you

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<v Speaker 1>were just using the water in the tank. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can also hook up a line to a m a

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<v Speaker 1>pool or lake or pond and use that water to

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<v Speaker 1>pump into the various lines that you're using now. For that,

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<v Speaker 1>they use a uh a strainer. It's a it's called

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<v Speaker 1>a barrel strainer, and that's what is used to filter

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<v Speaker 1>out debris in ponds and pools and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing in order to be able to use that water

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<v Speaker 1>to fight fires because of course if you get debris

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<v Speaker 1>caught in the line, then you've fouled the line. You

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, in danger of losing the fight against

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. But plus I imagine it would do quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of costly damage to the equipment as well. Sure, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that is is uh, you know, an important

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<v Speaker 1>thing to remember when you are trying to to fight fires.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's also they tend to trucks tend to

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<v Speaker 1>also carry foam, and there's different kinds of foam UH

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<v Speaker 1>that are that's used for different types of fires. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>fire engine may only carry one type of foam, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if it's if it's in an area where UH fires

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<v Speaker 1>are typically one type versus another. For example, a Class

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<v Speaker 1>A foam is a kind of foam that's used to

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<v Speaker 1>soak down an area after you've put out a fire

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent reignition. It's kind of a flame retardant. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got UH like class B foam that's the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that you use to fight flammable liquid fires. So

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<v Speaker 1>like a car fire, you might want to use that

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<v Speaker 1>because of the gasoline problem. So UH, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>the other part about fire engines, they are like mobile

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<v Speaker 1>tool kits. So that's where all the fire fighting tools

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<v Speaker 1>are are mounted in that and you may have some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty low tech stuff in there. I mean things like

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<v Speaker 1>hooks and pikes that are used to tear down walls

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can get at the places where the

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<v Speaker 1>fire is to put the fire out. There's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tech there. But then you may have something

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<v Speaker 1>like a chainsaw. You know chainsaws have that there's this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some tech there, it's just pretty simple tech. It's

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<v Speaker 1>usually you know, a diesel engine that turns turns the

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<v Speaker 1>chains that you can cut through stuff. But then there's

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<v Speaker 1>also the pretty famous tool I would say that you

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<v Speaker 1>typically will find on a fire engine. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I know where you're going with this since you

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned it a moment ago, but I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to remember before while you're trying to guess

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<v Speaker 1>what this famous tool is that firefighters UM these days

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<v Speaker 1>often do a lot more than fighting fires. They're also

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for, uh doing some paramedic work. UM you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their first responders. So if someone is injured, they often

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<v Speaker 1>call the firefighters out UM on the possibility that in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to medical care, there might be UM a fire

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<v Speaker 1>related to it. And they might need to do both things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for example, as Jonathan was just pointing out, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had a car wreck and uh, there's a possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that gasoline might spill and catch fire. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>someone trapped in a car, Um, there's a possibility that

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a fire. So who better to send

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<v Speaker 1>than of firefighters who are trained in medical care. But

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<v Speaker 1>the trick is getting them out of the car before

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<v Speaker 1>something bad happens. And that's where that's where this uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this tool comes in. It's called the Jaws of Life.

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<v Speaker 1>And really the Jaws of Life is actually a series

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<v Speaker 1>of tools, is not a single tool. Um, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>company that makes uh these tools, and a company is

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Jaws of Life. Company actually has a

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<v Speaker 1>full name, but it escapes my mind off off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of my head. But let's say not that kind.

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<v Speaker 1>You still haven't seen that movie? Have you have not?

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<v Speaker 1>We had someone asked us earlier. Um, no, he has

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<v Speaker 1>not seen Jaws. So Jaws of Life is Jaws of life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hydraulic lee powered tool and by that we

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<v Speaker 1>mean it uses a fluid to create uh pressure and

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<v Speaker 1>move heavy duty tool elements. And uh, let's I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that a little digression on hydraulic fluid would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea here. So, hydraulic fluid is a fluid that

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<v Speaker 1>is typically it's it's not compressible. It's incompressible, and by that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you cannot squish it, right Like most things

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<v Speaker 1>that we think about, there's a little squish factor. But

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<v Speaker 1>hydraulic fluid is a has to be incompressible and that

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<v Speaker 1>means that the fluids that maximum density, you cannot cram

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<v Speaker 1>them the the molecules of that fluid any tighter than

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<v Speaker 1>it already is. So if you flot pressure on it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to push. Yeah. Like if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>a cylinder filled with hydraulic fluid and uh, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to push a press, a piston into the cylinder

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<v Speaker 1>at the point where everything is connected. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the solid cylinder at one end, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the piston starts to push on it. There's a point

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<v Speaker 1>at which the piston is not going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to push anymore because it is it is compressed as

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<v Speaker 1>far as it can go and it will not compress

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<v Speaker 1>any further. And you can use that to do work.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are plenty of tools that do use this

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, the jaws of life to use a phosphate

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<v Speaker 1>ester fluid. A lot of hydraulic fluid systems will use

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<v Speaker 1>an oil based fluid. As you can imagine, oil based

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<v Speaker 1>fluids are not necessarily the best thing to have in

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<v Speaker 1>firefighting equipment. Yeah, So phosphate esther is non flammable and

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<v Speaker 1>non conductive. So the these hydraulic tools, the jaws of

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<v Speaker 1>light there are actually, like I said, a line of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ones that are typically used in firefighting are cutters,

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<v Speaker 1>which do what they sound like they do. They are

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<v Speaker 1>designed to cut through stuff. So for example, the body

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<v Speaker 1>of a car, because the hydraulic pressure is such that

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<v Speaker 1>it will cause the the pinch, the the cutting edges

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<v Speaker 1>of this device to close. It's such a force that

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<v Speaker 1>metal just crumbles. And then you've got spreaders. Spreaders are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you know, imagine a pair of pliers

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<v Speaker 1>and you open them. That's kind of what spreaders are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They in reverse. Yeah, you shove shove it into a

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<v Speaker 1>gap and then you start the hydraulic motor and or

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<v Speaker 1>actually start the diesel motor and that starts the hydraulic fluid. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it pushes hydrug fluid through and makes it do work,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what causes the pincers to open and then

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<v Speaker 1>you pop open whatever it is you were trying to open,

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<v Speaker 1>or it tears apart one one or the other. And

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<v Speaker 1>then hydraulic rams. So those are the three that are

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<v Speaker 1>used the most frequently in firefighting UH scenarios. So uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of We actually have an article on how

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<v Speaker 1>the jaws of life work and it goes into detail

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<v Speaker 1>on each of those tools. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about it, I do recommend that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very useful resource. And then also I guess I should

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<v Speaker 1>mention what we're talking about hydraulics. The ladder on the

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<v Speaker 1>fire trucks, those are operated through hydraulics as well. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a piston that is uh has got especially two different

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<v Speaker 1>hoses connected to it, and the hydraulic fluid will either

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<v Speaker 1>it cause the ladder to extend upward or to come

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<v Speaker 1>back down. So those are that's your basic fire engine

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<v Speaker 1>from from too back. I mean, there's there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more we could talk about, but there's so much more

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<v Speaker 1>firefighting technology. I didn't want to just have this all

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<v Speaker 1>be about fire engines. So what do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about next, Well, most of what I got is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of high tech, cutting edge type stuff. UM. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing that that we should talk about, probably UM to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent, or maybe we could cover it later if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go with all the high tech stuff

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<v Speaker 1>now is the stuff that the firefighters actually wear on

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<v Speaker 1>their person themselves. Sure, yeah, let's talk about that. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we just talked about fire engines, we should talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the fire gear that the the firefighters are wearing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>This is they wear a lot, Yes, they do. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they have to try to stay protected from um,

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<v Speaker 1>the heat that's you know, it depends on what's burning,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. Uh. Some some different types of materials will

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<v Speaker 1>burn hotter than other materials. UM. And certainly don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a firefighter go inside to rescue a person

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<v Speaker 1>or to get at the source of a fire and

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<v Speaker 1>have them uh pass out from the heat or to

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<v Speaker 1>to be overcome by heat and smoke inhalation. UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to you know, protect them externally and and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that they uh they can breathe, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that they could see, and and you know, keep them

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<v Speaker 1>as cool as possible. UM. One one jacket that I

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<v Speaker 1>read about that was really cool. It's actually called turnout

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<v Speaker 1>gear UM, which is a basically the the heavy duty

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<v Speaker 1>jacket that you might see them where. It's actually from

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<v Speaker 1>a company called Viking UM. But it's got thermal sensors

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<v Speaker 1>built into the jacket itself. Now, not not that this

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of again sort of cutting edge, but this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this different thing has sensors on the outside which change

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<v Speaker 1>depending on There's an LED display UM on the jacket

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<v Speaker 1>and it will tell you at you know, at what

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<v Speaker 1>point it is going to be a serious issue that

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to be a serious heat is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be too hot for the suit's integrity. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the firefighter will be a danger. Yeah. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that it monitors what's going on outside and inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So by looking at the firefighter, you know, another firefighter

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<v Speaker 1>could say, look, you know, he's in danger right now

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<v Speaker 1>being where he is, and needs to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>there because he may not be able to tell uh

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. He may be so focused on fighting

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<v Speaker 1>the fire that he may be ignoring a potentially dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>situation for himself in the heat of the moment. Yes, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>when the outer temperature of where the fire is gets

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<v Speaker 1>too about four two degrees fahrenheit UM. The display, the

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<v Speaker 1>LED display starts to flash and it's six d sixty

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<v Speaker 1>two degrees fahrenheit UM. It will start flashing very fast.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine being in anything that hot. It's interesting because, well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I got to know paper burns a

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<v Speaker 1>fare knight. But I was gonna I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of interesting because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the history of the heat resistant materials that firefighters

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<v Speaker 1>have worn, the go to material for quite some time

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<v Speaker 1>was called nomex, which as a fire resistant material, it's

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<v Speaker 1>similar to nylon. It's kind of the same sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a feel of nylon, but it can withstand really intense heat.

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<v Speaker 1>As the type of meta aramid fiber, which really you

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<v Speaker 1>just need to know, that's a heat resistant synthetic fiber

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<v Speaker 1>that was developed in the lab and um it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a sort of a distant relative to kevlar um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a much more resilient, not necessarily heat resistant,

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<v Speaker 1>but physically resilient material. So no mix was the standard

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<v Speaker 1>for a really long time. Back in the Houston Fire

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<v Speaker 1>Department partnered with NASA to develop a Originally it was

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<v Speaker 1>just to develop a new helmet for firefighters. But then eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>through the partnership NASA suggested that perhaps they could completely

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<v Speaker 1>redesign the fire fighter suit, and they started to create

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<v Speaker 1>suits that would circulate liquids within the suits lining in

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<v Speaker 1>order to remove heat so that it would protect the

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<v Speaker 1>firefighter longer in in intense heat conditions, because before that point,

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<v Speaker 1>the Houston firefighters were really only rated to go into

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<v Speaker 1>areas that were three hundred degrees fahrenheit or cooler. Afterward

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<v Speaker 1>they could go into areas that were five hundred degrees

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<v Speaker 1>fahrenheit or cooler. And now you're talking about a system

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, it warns you at four two, which

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<v Speaker 1>is right around that you know, that five hundred degree

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<v Speaker 1>range that was just talking about, but it goes all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to six, suggesting that this material is

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<v Speaker 1>even more resilient than the stuff that was made back

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<v Speaker 1>in NASA. One of the other cool things that they

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<v Speaker 1>added in that that same project where they were redesigning

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<v Speaker 1>the helmet, they created an improved two way radio link

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<v Speaker 1>ups in the helmets themselves, and they also created a

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<v Speaker 1>infrared camera system so that you can so that the

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<v Speaker 1>firefighter could switch to a thermal view and see hot

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<v Speaker 1>spots in the house and will also help firefighters identify

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<v Speaker 1>if any victims were UH in the area, so that

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, they could see the heat from a person,

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<v Speaker 1>then they would know that they needed to UH to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you might not be able to see because

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<v Speaker 1>the smoke might be so thick. And Actually, infrared cameras

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<v Speaker 1>play a really big role in firefighting technology across the board,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in personal firefighter gear, but for example, a

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter flying over a wildfire might be equipped. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are equipped with infrared cameras and infrared

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<v Speaker 1>lenses so that they can so the pilot or the

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<v Speaker 1>watch's not really the pilot, but a firefighter aboard the

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter can look through and see the hot spots and

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<v Speaker 1>see the flames even if the smoke is so thick

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<v Speaker 1>that you couldn't see anything, you know, just through a

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<v Speaker 1>regular view to the ground. I'm sorry that was a

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<v Speaker 1>big digression, but you were going back to the cutting

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<v Speaker 1>edge gear. Yeah, actually, uh we we can keep going

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<v Speaker 1>with that because I was reading an article on Popular

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<v Speaker 1>Mechanics about some of the different cutting edge firefighting tools

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<v Speaker 1>UM some firefighters for for things like uh scenarios like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a fire in the in the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 1>UM are using unmanned aircraft yeah, to monitor areas and

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<v Speaker 1>using UM infrared technology to identify places where uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can really concentrate on on fighting the fire. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, UM, we haven't really talked about it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on our list of things to do. But these

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<v Speaker 1>unmanned aerial vehicles can stay in the air far longer

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<v Speaker 1>than UH piloted human piloted aircraft. They can stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the air for h well, the ones that they use

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<v Speaker 1>in them the military can you stay in the air

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<v Speaker 1>for almost a day I think maybe even longer. And

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<v Speaker 1>they can fly through thick smoke that a a pilot,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the type of aircraft, may not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to fly through because you know, smaller aircraft, which is

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<v Speaker 1>often what's being used to fight fires, uses a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of line of sight UH navigational UH techniques rather than

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<v Speaker 1>flying by instruments. So if you're gonna fly into an

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<v Speaker 1>area that's that's got a really low visibility, that's very

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.399
<v Speaker 1>dangerous for the pilot. So it's much more safe to

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<v Speaker 1>use a pilotless drone. I mean, you've got the person

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<v Speaker 1>who's controlling it is controlling it from a a workstation

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to in a cockpit. UM that Yeah, did

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<v Speaker 1>you come across the the And I'm probably gonna butcher

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<v Speaker 1>this name because my Native American languages are non existent

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<v Speaker 1>uh icona, I, k h A in A. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a It's a predator b drone that NASA has UM

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<v Speaker 1>that is specifically designed to to fly through areas that

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<v Speaker 1>are either threatened by wildfires are actually currently in experiencing wildfire.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a lot of sensors on it allow it

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<v Speaker 1>to UH to detect exactly the intensity and location of

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<v Speaker 1>a fire to help firefighting strategies. Yeah, you don't typically

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<v Speaker 1>think of NASA as being a firefighting agency, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have been partnering with in the United States Forest Service

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<v Speaker 1>and developing this technology and working on ways to keep

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<v Speaker 1>forest fires from getting out of control. UM. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>moderate resolution Imaging Spectra Radiometer or modus UM, and basically

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<v Speaker 1>that's a there are two satellites in orbit around the Earth. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They're using instrumentation that can detect electromagnetic radiation UM and

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<v Speaker 1>so basically, over the course of a day or two UH,

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<v Speaker 1>modus is keeping an eye on on the earth to

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<v Speaker 1>look for radiation that would indicate where where there's smoke

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<v Speaker 1>and there's fire, um, and you can look at things

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<v Speaker 1>like uh, you can sort of overlay this with areas

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<v Speaker 1>of population density, areas of vegetation, things that might um

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<v Speaker 1>indicate that there is a serious imminent danger of say

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<v Speaker 1>a fire spreading if it's going to get to a

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<v Speaker 1>grassland or you know, coming close enough to an area

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<v Speaker 1>of population density where you need to start evacuating people

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<v Speaker 1>to keep them out of the way. UM. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it's using satellite imaging is uh a very sophisticated way

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<v Speaker 1>of fighting fires because you can get a uh I

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<v Speaker 1>feel pardon the well worn expression, and the big picture

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<v Speaker 1>view of what's really going on. And in a fire

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<v Speaker 1>of a size like that, of course, that's a much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger fire than the ones we were starting out the

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>podcast talking about. Yeah, yeah, I mean, NASA has done

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work with satellites and fire detection. I

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>mean back in two thousand three, that's when they started

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to to develop a software that would scan for for

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>fires and then uh, if a fire was detected, then

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>NASA direct a more powerful satellite to look at that

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:07.439
<v Speaker 1>area specifically, there's also the landsat seven satellite, which is

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>designed to detect moisture levels and and forested areas to

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>determine likely spots where wildfires could form, because of course,

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the wildfire is more likely to form in a very

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>dry area. Those conditions are our prime for a wildfire

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>because you've got a lot of dry fuel, and then

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>if there's any wind, then that's going to spread that

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 1>fire around very quickly in that area. So that's that's

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of the purpose of lands at seven. It's just

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a kind of identify potential spots where a wildfire could

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>develop with the right conditions. I mean, obviously you're gonna

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>have to have something that's gonna spark the fire. I

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>also write about in UM in Popular Mechanics about some

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>software developed by the Canadian Interagency Forest Fire Center UM

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>called Prometheus Unice the Bringer of Fire, Yes, exactly. In

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:58.679
<v Speaker 1>this case, it's actually designed to identify the likelihood of

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>fire before it actually starts to burn. Very very cool idea.

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Basically using it's sort of like if you think about

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like a meteorological models. They're taking environmental

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>factors into account. Um ecological factors and and looking at

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>those two to get an idea of the likelihood of

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a forest fire starting and spreading, so they can kind

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of keep an eye on on that before it even

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>really a conflagration starts. Uh, thank you. Speaking of meteorological equipment, actually,

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fire stations tend to have a lot

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of meteorological equipment actually on the station, mounted on the

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>station because you know, firefighters need to know this information.

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>If if humidity is high, then they know that the

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>fire is going to spread more slowly than if it

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>were a dry day. Um. They need to know what

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the wind speed and direction is because that's going to

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>affect how they attack a fire. It also will affect

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>how a fire might spread it. So a lot of

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>weather equipment is uh. You know, you'll find a lot

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>of weather equipment attached to your typical fire station, and

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you know that way they have the most up to

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>date information available before they go out to uh to

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>fight a fire. Um. You want to hear about a

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>couple other cutting edge tools. I ran into the two

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got that I wanted to talk about are kind

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of future potential applications. Yes, did you run across the

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>controlled impact rescue impact rescue tool. Uh. This is something

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>if you've heard of the company at raytheon, you probably

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>associate them with defense technology and microwave offons. Um, but

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>among other things, many many other things. Uh. But the

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>this is sort of high end weapons grade firefighting technology. UM.

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at a concrete wall and you need

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to get inside because there's a fire on the other side,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and you've you've absolutely got to do this getting through,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that's going to take you a long time using conventional tools. So, UM,

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a prototypical tool, or at least it was

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in at the time. This the article I'm used as

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>sources written. Um. It uses blank ammunition cartridges and fires

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>those into the wall to make the wall crumble just

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>from the shock waves of firing the blanks into the wall. UM.

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>The equipment waste about a hundred pounds, which means that

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you've got to have to firefighters carrying the equipment up there.

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't require any electricity. You know, it's it's

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>essentially a gun. UM. But you can use the the

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>device to basically pound your way through a thick concrete

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>wall a lot faster than you could if you were

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to use a jackhammer or electric saw. I can

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>easily see a fictionalized version of that weapon being used

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>in video games from here on out. UM. And then, uh,

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>did you read anything about using electricity to fight fires? Yes? Uh,

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>that is one of the ones that I wanted to

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about. Over in Harve University, some researchers discovered something interesting.

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>They found that you know, it's been known that that

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>flames will react to an electric field for quite some time.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>But what the the researches that, however, University found was

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.479
<v Speaker 1>that by using a variable electric field, which means they

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>were using alternating current uh to go to travel across

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a wire, um, they would create this variable electric field,

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>they would direct it toward a flame, and they discovered

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that it would snuff a flame out. And the the

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>what was at work here was that the the variable

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>electric field was actually exerting force on charged particles within

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the flame itself, probably probably carbon particles from what I read. Yeah,

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and it and it's pushing those particles away from the

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>fuel source. So it's literally pushing the flame off the fuel,

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>so it snuffs it out, you know, in the fuel

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the fuel remains unburned. But this is

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:05.479
<v Speaker 1>UM this is just a small kind of laboratory setting,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>uh that. You know, it's not a it's not a

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like a field test. And moreover, this sort of application

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>is really going to be useful for small, confined spaces.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>So any place where a fire might break out in

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a tiny area, like let's say it's a compartment in

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a ship like a navy vessel. It's down below decks

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and you have a fire breakout, while this could be

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a good way to contain that fire, to snuff out

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that fire quickly, um, and you you know that you've

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>got a again, a pretty confined space in that when

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.479
<v Speaker 1>you're working with that. If you're talking about something like

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a house fire or a wildfire, this approach is not

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>necessarily going to be very effective. So it's not like

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>we can just make a massive electric wand pointed at

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>California and say you're done, no more fires for you.

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna happen that way. Plus a lot of

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be mad that their tiki torches

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>just went out. Nice, thank you. But yeah, you could

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>use it to uh um to escape a fire if

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you were in a situation they that's a good point. Yeah,

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you can make a lane. Yeah. Um, yeah. The article

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I read on it basically said if you were a

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>firefire inside of building and there were a wall of

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>fire in front of you, you could you know, create

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>an escape route for yourself by using this on a

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>on a small area enough to to get through and

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to the other side. Satially, yeah, you wouldn't be able

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to necessarily put out the fire, but you could at

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>least create an avenue to get out of that situation.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Or it could be used as a sort of augment

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a sprinkler system um mounted on the ceiling, so that

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you could you know, use that on a small area

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>within and building, which would be kind of interesting. I

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It would sort of depend on the type

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of equipment the that you were working with, and if

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you had something like electronic equipment. Yeah, when you get

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a robber that you're generating an electronic electric field. You're

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>not shooting lightning out the end of something, So that's

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>something to remember. It's not like you're blasting stuff of

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>lightning and then the fire goes out. That's that's that'd

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>be cool, but it's not what's happening. Did you read

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>about using acoustic waves to put out flames? All right,

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is another one of those things where it's

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>an idea that could have potential, but but it's going

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to take some more tests and some more uh experimentation

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to really find out if it's if it's a worthwhile pursuit.

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 1>The idea is that you use acoustic waves, so sound

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to snuff out flames. And there were some early experiments

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>done mostly by students, really like science students in college

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>level and even lower where they would use a really

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of a low frequency sound like we're talking about

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in the forty hurts frequency range and boost it up

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>really powerfully and you and when brought close to a flame,

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the flame would go out. And the idea is that

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>we might be able to use this kind of technology

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>in areas where there's uh zero gravity, for example a

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>space station, So if a fire broke out in a

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>space station that would be catastrophic. It's also really unusual

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because you know, flames behave in a in a really

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>odd way in outer space, and it's because of the

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>lack of gravity. So instead of a you know, a

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>tear dropped shaped flame that you might see one on

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a candle here on Earth, in space, it's round because

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>there's no up and there's no down. There's no you know,

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the heat doesn't go up. The heat just stays where

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it is and it gets hotter and hotter and hotter,

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't But yeah, heat doesn't travel, it doesn't

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>go outward. There's no one. It's which it's kind of

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>hard to get your head around. But uh, it's also

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in an outer space. In in a place like the

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>space station, using water is not terribly effective either. Um,

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't be the same way in a zero G environment.

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Using foam is really messy and dangerous, potentially dangerous as well.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>So that's why they're looking at various alternatives to using

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a physical substance. Um. What really the basis of of

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>fighting fires up to this point has been chemical. You're

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you're you're aiming at the fuel and you're trying to

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>put out the flame that way. Um, this is more

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of a physical way of fighting fire. You're physically finding

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>a way to remove the flame from the fuel and

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>thus snuff it out. And both the electric field and

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the acoustic wave methods fall into that category. Well, I'm

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm tapped out. Do you have anything else you want

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to add before we sign off? No? But I think

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, and over the course of talking about these things,

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there there are other firefighting technologies we didn't talk about

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>we might back and revisit. I'm interested in maybe revisiting

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it in the future. I do also want to point

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>out that, um uh, you know, all these technologies are

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>very important to people who are very important to us

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>because they help protect us. And um I just want

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to send our thanks. You know, they speak for you,

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the firefighters of the world, for for looking out for

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>all of us, because you have a very difficult job. Yeah.

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>The the the training regiment alone to become a firefighter

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.479
<v Speaker 1>is one of the most difficult things I've read about.

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's up there with you know, the

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>elite military training in a way. I mean, and they

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>have to go through some pretty intense situations just to

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where they're putting their lives at

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>risk to help you. So, yeah, my hat is off

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to the firefighters out there. Thank you, men and women

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:44.080
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0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.799
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0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.279
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