Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where every one of these Monday
Speaker 1: night doubleheaders gets a little crazy. That's right, I'm here
Speaker 1: in my garage. Nick Shook is in Ohio and his
Speaker 1: fingers are tired after writing up these games. Ravens Bucks
Speaker 1: a lot going on in that game early late, a
Speaker 1: lot of points, and then the Chargers and the Cardinals
Speaker 1: have a tastefully quick game but a weird ending and
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about there.
Speaker 2: Welcome Shook. A long day for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Greg, this is how I know you're
Speaker 3: a writer at heart, because I didn't even mention that
Speaker 3: to you. But that's the first thought I had as
Speaker 3: I was preparing to jump on this show was wow,
Speaker 3: my hands are tired after running all that up. So
Speaker 3: thank you for noticing that. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, Shook's a big guy, but I can
Speaker 1: tell when he's playing hurt.
Speaker 2: Let's not mess around.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the main event that was down in Tampa.
Speaker 1: We'll get to the undercard Chargers in Cardinals a little later.
Speaker 4: On second and seventeen, Lamar to throw going deep near side.
Speaker 2: He's got Patement open.
Speaker 5: The five touchdown was shot Bateman.
Speaker 2: And the Ravens strike again.
Speaker 4: Forty nine yards from Lamar in Jackson.
Speaker 1: That was Jerry Sandusky and Rod Woodson on WB AL.
Speaker 1: I missed the great celebration by Bateman the first time.
Speaker 1: I was too busy celebrating that touchdown for my son,
Speaker 1: who started Bateman in fantasy the char The Ravens get it.
Speaker 2: Done, forty one to thirty one. What a wild game.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson throws five touchdowns, matching his five incompletions. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, he ran for fifty two yards. More
Speaker 1: on that in a second, But that was just a
Speaker 1: beautiful throw on a night full of them, full of
Speaker 1: good decisions, full of open receivers, full of Lamar and
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator Todd Monkin just reading those Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: blitzes before they even got to him. What a performance
Speaker 1: there by the Ravens offense Nick after they fell down
Speaker 1: ten nothing.
Speaker 3: Early, Yeah, you know all that was missing from that
Speaker 3: call was the Hayes in the bar, and it was
Speaker 3: because it was too early. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 3: when I saw that touchdown pass, I said, good night Buccaneers,
Speaker 3: because the Ravens were not about to be stopped on
Speaker 3: Monday night, Year two, the Todd Monkin offense is in
Speaker 3: full force in a game like this. Consider their first
Speaker 3: possession of that game, they had to punt. They got
Speaker 3: blitzed twice. They didn't have an answer for it. After that,
Speaker 3: the Ravens went touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 3: They scored thirty four unanswered points. They were an absolute
Speaker 3: machine and most of that didn't even involve Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: It was the Lamar Jackson show. They were making it work.
Speaker 3: In the passing game, he was taken off running. They
Speaker 3: could not be stopped. And folks, if you had any
Speaker 3: questions about the Ravens, I know we can sound hyperbolic
Speaker 3: when it comes to this team because they could be
Speaker 3: so impressive on nights like this, But I'm telling you
Speaker 3: right now you have a leader for MVP. His name
Speaker 3: is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no question he's gone to another level.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because he's won two MVPs. But the way
Speaker 1: that he won his first MVP was so unique and
Speaker 1: it was incredible to watch, nothing quite like it in
Speaker 1: NFL history. And yet even when it was happening, you
Speaker 1: knew you can't probably like live like this. Your whole career,
Speaker 1: and it was why Greg Roman, who was not lost
Speaker 1: on me, is part of This Night's Adventures too, while
Speaker 1: coaching up the Chargers and they're kind of stillborn offense
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and meanwhile, Lamar Jackson is in a much
Speaker 1: better offense for him. So that was the first MVP.
Speaker 1: Then last year playing outstanding on the best team in
Speaker 1: the league, and it just was a year where, let's
Speaker 1: be real, there wasn't like perfect MVP candidates and he
Speaker 1: was the best one because he's probably the best quarterback
Speaker 1: in the league in a year where there just wasn't
Speaker 1: anyone standing out and they were the best team. But
Speaker 1: right now, I think mentally physically, he's certainly running the
Speaker 1: ball better, and I think he's making better decisions, and
Speaker 1: there just aren't as many inaccurate throws from Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: And when he plays a defense that has some holes
Speaker 1: in it, like this Tampa Bay Buccaneer secondary does when
Speaker 1: they blitz and they don't get home, I mean, he
Speaker 1: just trashes them. It's kind of amazing to think the
Speaker 1: old book against Lamar Jackson was, oh, well, he can't
Speaker 1: really handle the blitz, like go cover zero against Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: He went eleven for fifteen for one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: six yards and three touchdowns against the Blitz. He is
Speaker 1: second in the NFL this season in success rate against
Speaker 1: the Blitz, behind only Patrick Mahomes, who's also pretty good
Speaker 1: and probably will be heard from in this MVP race.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, in my notes about Lamar last week,
Speaker 3: it was, you know, he's really take and his passing
Speaker 3: game to the next level, like he's become a very
Speaker 3: accurate passer. That was like the knock, oh, we can't
Speaker 3: throw the football. Well, he could throw the football and
Speaker 3: last year, you know, you compare MVP seasons if this
Speaker 3: is going to be an MVP season for him as well.
Speaker 3: It was about the Zay Flower Show when it came
Speaker 3: to the passing game because they lost Mark Andrews and
Speaker 3: Zay Flowers really stepped in well tonight. Zay gets one
Speaker 3: catch for eleven yards and then disappears because he gets
Speaker 3: a little banged up, and it becomes the Rashad Bateman Show.
Speaker 3: Four catches for one hundred and twenty one yards. Mark
Speaker 3: Andrews gets four catches for forty one yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Him and Bateman combined for three touchdowns. Overall, it doesn't
Speaker 3: matter who's running routes or who's open, Lamar is going
Speaker 3: to get it to him on target. And that's not
Speaker 3: even accounting for his running game. And that's why they've
Speaker 3: taken this entire offense, and Lamar has elevated himself to
Speaker 3: a whole new level. And what makes them so scary
Speaker 3: to play against because you can't just blitz him anymore.
Speaker 3: There is no simple blueprint to stop this offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are just an absolute wagon. We're going
Speaker 1: to get to the really heartbreaking ending to this game,
Speaker 1: which included Chris Godwin's injury, in a minute, but I
Speaker 1: kind of want to set up what led to that
Speaker 1: point because you mentioned, yeah, the game fell over after
Speaker 1: that Bateman touchdown. But after that was Derrick Henry's crazy
Speaker 1: long run down the field, which I just assumed it
Speaker 1: was going to be a touchdown because you didn't see
Speaker 1: a defender. I think it was Zion mccollin, you know,
Speaker 1: on the screen the whole time he flies in because
Speaker 1: he had the angle. But yes, it was an eighty
Speaker 1: one yard run. Let's actually listen to that one.
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry is the deep back of the offset eye
Speaker 4: recard in front of him, Lamar under center, give us
Speaker 4: the Henry left side breaks to the line across the
Speaker 4: fifth Blake right, tellas how's midfield. The train is rolling
Speaker 4: Peter by twenty fifteen and he's taking off his feet
Speaker 4: at the ten. Derrick Henry flips the field with.
Speaker 1: One run, yes, eighty one yards and Rod Woodson, I
Speaker 1: don't blame him. I assumed that Derek Henry was gone too.
Speaker 1: And let's fly up that tweet that you had, Eric Roberts.
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Speaker 1: cool either way. And you can see how Derek Henry
Speaker 1: reached a top speed of twenty one point seventy two
Speaker 1: miles per hour That was the third fastest of his
Speaker 1: entire career and the fifth fastest by a ball carrier
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, McCollum was even faster. Often called the
Speaker 1: most athletic guy on that Bucks team, which is saying something.
Speaker 1: So that's the type of effort it would take to
Speaker 1: catch up with him. But that set up Mark Andrews's
Speaker 1: second touchdown, which by the way, was part of him
Speaker 1: becoming the all time receiving touchdowns leader in Raven's history.
Speaker 2: So much was happening in this game.
Speaker 1: That was just like an afterthought they mentioned as a
Speaker 1: little lower third. That's pretty cool a pad passed Todd
Speaker 1: Heap as the leader in Raven's history.
Speaker 2: And yeah, at that point, it's thirty four to ten.
Speaker 1: Right after that, actually shook was Lamar Jackson kind of
Speaker 1: losing his mind and throwing backwards pass with just an
Speaker 1: inaccurate pass that turns out to be a fumble that
Speaker 1: we thought was returned by McCollum but eventually was just
Speaker 1: ruled a fumble and that he was down, and the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers get a touchdown and then they score another touchdown.
Speaker 2: So when you were going through all your.
Speaker 1: Touchdown, touch up, touch a touch up field goal, you
Speaker 1: had to stop because there was that.
Speaker 2: Fumble in the mix.
Speaker 1: But then there was another touchdown drive which was led
Speaker 1: by even more Derrick Henry. This one two punch, it's
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. It's just like it's I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything quite like it. Like it's just awesome as a
Speaker 1: football fan, it's like, you know, you're watching a moment
Speaker 1: in time, kind of like that first Lamar Jackson MVP season.
Speaker 1: This can't go forever these two at this level, but
Speaker 1: right now it's just ridiculous and there is every reason
Speaker 1: to believe it can continue all season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what's scary about that is Dereck Henry was
Speaker 3: having a quiet night At one point a graphic flash
Speaker 3: in the screen that showed he had five carries for
Speaker 3: I think like twenty two yards or something like that,
Speaker 3: and they were still putting up points. He ends with
Speaker 3: fifteen care for one sixty nine. This can jump up
Speaker 3: and get you at any point in the game. It
Speaker 3: can be the closer, the knockout punch, even when you
Speaker 3: least expected. That's how dangerous this duo is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that second touchdown that he scored Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: not that he set up, rather that made it forty
Speaker 1: one to fourteen. I actually think that's an important moment
Speaker 1: in the game because that was the moment that it
Speaker 1: was over. It was forty one to eighteen. The only
Speaker 1: reason the Bucks had even gotten those eight points there
Speaker 1: after thirty four straight by the Ravens was Lamar set
Speaker 1: them up on a short field. There's under nine minutes
Speaker 1: to go, and I thought at that point Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: might just pull his starters, because you know, that's what
Speaker 1: a twenty three point lead with nine minutes to go.
Speaker 1: It was a very physical night. There were a lot
Speaker 1: of injuries. Mike Evans had already left this game with
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. He actually dropped a potential touchdown pass
Speaker 1: after he got his one hundredth career touchdown.
Speaker 3: To start the scoring. Also a footnote right.
Speaker 1: Like his one hundredth career receiving touchdown. It's a little
Speaker 1: confusing because he had his one hundredth total touchdown a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago on a primetime game, but this
Speaker 1: was a one hundredth receiving second drive. The Bucks are
Speaker 1: trying to go up fourteen to nothing after a couple
Speaker 1: of good defensive series and he drops a pass and
Speaker 1: he hurts his hamstring. He came into the game with
Speaker 1: the injury. You could tell he was limping around even
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Some questions maybe should they have let
Speaker 1: him keep playing in that game? But a lot of injuries.
Speaker 1: Tyke Smith had a concussion, Marlon Humphrey had a knee
Speaker 1: injury and just people were hitting it's hot there. I
Speaker 1: just was like, maybe they're gonna pull their guys. They
Speaker 1: don't pull their guys. Baker Mayfield starts that next drive
Speaker 1: and we'll get to Mayfield's night by throwing a ball
Speaker 1: right at one of the Ravens defenders. I think it
Speaker 1: was our Darius Washington. It goes right through our Darius
Speaker 1: Washington's hand and Kate Aten catches it on his shoulder somehow.
Speaker 1: Is a truly remarkable catch, and they end up scoring
Speaker 1: a touchdown on that drive. Like I said, it was
Speaker 1: forty one to eighteen. I thought they'd just pulled their starters. Okay,
Speaker 1: they score there, maybe you pull it then, no, let's
Speaker 1: go for an on side kick.
Speaker 2: They get the on side kick. It's perfectly executed.
Speaker 1: And I bring all that up, Nick, because they scored
Speaker 1: another touchdown and it all led to this sequence where
Speaker 1: it's forty one to thirty one.
Speaker 2: With a minute to go and it's over.
Speaker 1: They have the whole field to go and Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: dislocates his ankle and it was like a sickening moment,
Speaker 1: and they didn't show the replay because it looks so bad.
Speaker 1: But if you rewound your television, which I did enough
Speaker 1: to just see like it was a dislocated ankle, the
Speaker 1: team announced after the game, that tells you all you
Speaker 1: need to know. I just started going through all the
Speaker 1: moments that led to that point that Todd Bowles should
Speaker 1: not have had his starters out there necessarily, but also
Speaker 1: just all the bad luck that it took for them
Speaker 1: to even be playing in that moment. And it sucks, man,
Speaker 1: because Chris Godwin's one of my favorite players. He's a
Speaker 1: lot of people's favorite players on that Bucks team certainly,
Speaker 1: and it looked like a season ending injury for a
Speaker 1: guy who was really having a career season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, a guy who caught a fifty five
Speaker 3: yard pass for a touchdown last week, primarily because he
Speaker 3: caught it and ran fifty five yards for a touchdown,
Speaker 3: Like he's a game breaking player, and him and Evans
Speaker 3: together make for one of the best, you know, one
Speaker 3: to two punches at receiver in the NFL. Once they
Speaker 3: lost Evans, that offense, you know, entered a rut because,
Speaker 3: as we've learned tonight, if you didn't already know, Baker
Speaker 3: Mayfield relies heavily on Mike Evans, so then he's gonna
Speaker 3: rely on Chris Godwin. He's going to attract all the
Speaker 3: defensive attention. But all this comes back to the point that,
Speaker 3: in a rare moment, getting the onside kick actually worked
Speaker 3: out poorly for the team that got the on side kick,
Speaker 3: because it gave them the hope or the opportunity to
Speaker 3: keep pushing forward and leaving those guys on the field
Speaker 3: when with the benefit of hindsight, we know that they
Speaker 3: shouldn't have been out there. We didn't know he was
Speaker 3: gonna get hurt. But you don't get that onside kick,
Speaker 3: they're not out there and it doesn't matter. But because
Speaker 3: they got it, they kept pushing forward and trying to
Speaker 3: win a game that they obviously weren't going to win,
Speaker 3: and now the worst possible result has come from it.
Speaker 1: Right, Let's listen to Todd Bowles answering a lot of
Speaker 1: pointed questions after the game about Godwin's injury.
Speaker 6: He's a player, was trying to win the ball game.
Speaker 6: I mean we were still down ten with trying to
Speaker 6: get extra points and kick another onside kick. It just happened.
Speaker 6: It might going down. We have that many receiver receivers
Speaker 6: left as it was, so we play what we got.
Speaker 1: Bulls kept going around in circles on that, and I
Speaker 1: understand what he was saying. I think there are shades
Speaker 1: of gray here. Ryan Clark was on after the game
Speaker 1: on SVP on ESPN, explaining that this is how football works.
Speaker 1: You played to the end. You're trying to win. You
Speaker 1: were down thirty four to ten. You don't want to
Speaker 1: sound like you're giving up on your players. They want
Speaker 1: to be out there, they want to win. I do
Speaker 1: think you can protect your players. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it with six and a half minutes left.
Speaker 1: This drives me crazy each and every week that these
Speaker 1: teams who do all these things in the preseason and
Speaker 1: during the regular season to prevent injuries then just have
Speaker 1: players out there in hopeless situations. Late when he got hurt,
Speaker 1: there was one minute to go, they were down two scores.
Speaker 2: I think they were out of timeouts.
Speaker 1: They might add one, and they had ninety yards to go, like,
Speaker 1: there's no chance, there's no chance to win that game.
Speaker 1: In that point at John Harbaugh had already put in
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson. I think it's worth mentioning he had kind
Speaker 1: of raised the you know, white flag, saying, hey, you
Speaker 1: just want to end this thing, because you know they
Speaker 1: got the ball around midfield after another field on sidekick
Speaker 1: and they were up ten. The Bucks had their timeouts,
Speaker 1: they decided to use them, but Josh Johnson came in
Speaker 1: to just hand the ball off because John Harbaugh wasn't
Speaker 1: messing around. I disagree with Todd Bowles. I think you
Speaker 1: get the ball in that situation a minute thirty left,
Speaker 1: you don't have a chance to win, especially after the
Speaker 1: first couple of plays, and it takes a lot, and
Speaker 1: it's bad luck, certainly, and it's football players getting hurt
Speaker 1: playing football. But I think he could have called off
Speaker 1: the Dogs a couple series before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again we're operating with the benefit of hindsight now.
Speaker 3: But to do use a cross sport comparison, I think
Speaker 3: it was the late Ayrton Senna who once said, as
Speaker 3: soon as you see a gap as a racer and
Speaker 3: you don't go for it, you're no longer a racer.
Speaker 3: And that just speaks to the competitor in everybody, and
Speaker 3: especially in football, which you need to be the ultimate
Speaker 3: competitor to not only win but survive. It's just that
Speaker 3: you got the worst possible outcome from this, and one
Speaker 3: that could absolutely, you know, derail your season, especially after
Speaker 3: you lost Mike Evans to a hamstring injury. And it's
Speaker 3: gonna hurt for them, Like it's gonna hurt for them
Speaker 3: beyond the fact that they saw what happened on the
Speaker 3: field and they all realized in that moment, Oh man,
Speaker 3: why do we even risk this. It's gonna hurt for
Speaker 3: them long term and it is unfortunate, but again, it
Speaker 3: still is football.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just I'm such a fan of Godwin since he
Speaker 1: first came into the league when when he was playing
Speaker 1: with Jamis. He's the type of receiver I like you meant.
Speaker 1: We were talking before the show you mentioned and Kuon Bolden,
Speaker 1: we were like, who has the Ravens receiving touchdown record? No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't there long enough, And Godwin almost reminded me
Speaker 1: of like a smaller an Kwon Bolden, but so tough
Speaker 1: in the way that he plays, and injuries affect players differently,
Speaker 1: and he took so long to really become the player
Speaker 1: that he was after. I believe it was a torn
Speaker 1: acl right that that he was coming back from a
Speaker 1: couple years ago, and you thought, oh, you're you're never
Speaker 1: going to see that Chris Godwin again.
Speaker 2: That's too bad.
Speaker 1: And then here he was coming into this week leading
Speaker 1: the NFL in receptions, leading the NFL in yak, third
Speaker 1: in receiving yards.
Speaker 2: He he wasn't.
Speaker 1: It's it's weird to call him the one and Mike
Speaker 1: Evans the two because of the roles that they play,
Speaker 1: but in terms of production, like he was the number
Speaker 1: one receiver on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, He's also in
Speaker 1: a contract year, and just all that combine it. I
Speaker 1: think that's part of the anger that people had about
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, and maybe some of that even from me,
Speaker 1: I tweeted something is a little unfair. I think the
Speaker 1: overall point about garbage time playing is something that like
Speaker 1: teams I think will get better at over time. They
Speaker 1: really haven't. But I do think that's something that is
Speaker 1: dumb that so many teams do. But it's also just disappointing.
Speaker 1: It's also disappointing for this Bucks team, who plays the
Speaker 1: Falcons next week almost certainly going to be without Mike
Speaker 1: Evans and Chris god When you would think Evans is
Speaker 1: going to be a week to week type of injury.
Speaker 1: They have Trey Palmer, they have Jalen McMillan was back
Speaker 1: for this game. They have Sterling Shephard's that's their wide
Speaker 1: receiver crew, so good luck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that takes a lot of the punch out of
Speaker 3: this offense, which was liable to blow up at any
Speaker 3: time for a huge number of points, just as the
Speaker 3: Saints how that went last week because they learned very
Speaker 3: quickly that this offense can put up a ton of points.
Speaker 3: And now you take that out of there. We knew
Speaker 3: the running game, which has been up and down, has
Speaker 3: gotten better in recent weeks, but was a big point
Speaker 3: of emphasis going into the season. That's why they invested
Speaker 3: in Bucky Irving. Sehn Tucker had a breakout game last week,
Speaker 3: like the balance was coming, but the threat was always
Speaker 3: the passing game started with Baker Mayfield, but it really
Speaker 3: relied on those two guys. You take those two guys
Speaker 3: out of the equation, suddenly that ceiling is so much lower,
Speaker 3: and suddenly the NFC South race gets very interesting because
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers no longer look like the best team in
Speaker 3: the division if they can't put up points at that
Speaker 3: rate without these guys.
Speaker 1: It's why gambling's crazy. We're not allowed to gamble, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, as NFL employees, And that's saved us a
Speaker 1: lot of heartache. And I don't know how people do
Speaker 1: it over the years, but I am thinking about like
Speaker 1: they're over, Like I picked them to win the division.
Speaker 1: I like this Bucks team, and I really liked their
Speaker 1: over under two And when this game started, I think
Speaker 1: it was a very typical Bucks game for this season,
Speaker 1: like when they look good, they look good.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: They came out and Baker's eleven for thirteen to starting
Speaker 1: the game, and they ran the ball well all night,
Speaker 1: Like if they could have kept the lead, they could
Speaker 1: have run the ball I think more consistently, but they
Speaker 1: just got in a game script where they had to stop.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, they've kind of figured out
Speaker 1: their running game. The defense is another matter, and they
Speaker 1: have injuries there and they're playing the Ravens and they
Speaker 1: probably always were gonna lose this game. But this is
Speaker 1: a team that I think could win the division because
Speaker 1: they're pretty balanced, but mostly because they're a good offense,
Speaker 1: and I think Liam Cohen has done a really nice
Speaker 1: job this year overall accentuating Baker's strengths and getting a
Speaker 1: lot out of out of the weapons that they have,
Speaker 1: and they do have weapons. You saw Kate Atten went
Speaker 1: for one hundred yards tonight, and now like maybe Evans
Speaker 1: gets back one hundred percent in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: and they they'll still be fighting.
Speaker 2: It's not like their season is over.
Speaker 1: But if if Evans and Godwin are out, you know,
Speaker 1: if god Win's out for the season, Evan's out for
Speaker 1: three weeks, it's like that that might be enough that
Speaker 1: that capsizes your season. Forget forget your over unders, forget
Speaker 1: your division, forget your team that's more important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a real test that Baker Mayfield
Speaker 3: as a quarterback too, because we know he had that
Speaker 3: great season last year. He got paid for it and
Speaker 3: everything else. Everything's turning up for him, right, But you
Speaker 3: take away his top two targets, it's gonna get harder
Speaker 3: for any quarterback. Just ask Matthew Stafford how it's been
Speaker 3: with the Rams. But this is going to be a
Speaker 3: real test of how he can make do with it.
Speaker 3: Because as soon as Evans left the field and they
Speaker 3: were in that gold to go situation, he threw that
Speaker 3: interception in the end zone. I realized for the first time,
Speaker 3: Baker doesn't know what to do when all else fails.
Speaker 3: Before it was thrown up to Mike Evans. Well, now
Speaker 3: he doesn't have that guy out there, bro right to
Speaker 3: Marlon Humphrey. I'm glad we got to this point because.
Speaker 2: Patrick Claibn's MVP candidate, Baker Mayfield was bad in this game.
Speaker 2: Like he was straight up bad.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because he had a monster fantasy night
Speaker 1: in the end because of those third quarter, those fourth
Speaker 1: quarter touchdowns. He ends up with three touchdowns and three
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards along with two interceptions. But after
Speaker 1: that fast start, and it's almost emblematic of Baker's career,
Speaker 1: he was like kind of collapsing in on himself for
Speaker 1: a couple of quarters. He was sacking himself. The two
Speaker 1: interceptions were just total panic plays where he didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do on that end zone interception and then
Speaker 1: the second one, it was such a bad interception that.
Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey got hurt on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because two Ravens were fighting over the ball because
Speaker 1: they both were gonna get it, and he could have
Speaker 1: been intercepted a couple more times, and he just he
Speaker 1: hit a play early where he improvised and he made
Speaker 1: something happen while just running around. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's almost dangerous when he hits one of those early,
Speaker 1: because then he just started doing it and he was
Speaker 1: kind of running in circles and it was the bad
Speaker 1: Baker and you see these pop up, and he's mostly
Speaker 1: kept this down in Tampa, but you see it pop
Speaker 1: up for a couple quarters at a time, and it
Speaker 1: was kind of a rough watch there for a couple quarters,
Speaker 1: and it makes me a little worried about what's going
Speaker 1: to happen without the.
Speaker 3: Yes And I'm telling you a lot of that has
Speaker 3: to do with the fact that Evans isn't on the field,
Speaker 3: because the first half of last season it was chuck
Speaker 3: and pray and usually it worked out for them, and
Speaker 3: it got them on track when nothing else is working
Speaker 3: that would work for them. The game script in the
Speaker 3: situation also affected them, the fact that they had to
Speaker 3: suddenly dig out of this deficit. They couldn't lean on
Speaker 3: the running game, and he takes away his best receiver.
Speaker 3: Where's he going to go now? And that's just what
Speaker 3: I fear could be the outcome for them In the
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: He was creatiant though he was holding the ball. It
Speaker 2: was it was driving me a little crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that weakness and it's him getting beat by
Speaker 3: underneath the zone like Robber cover one. Robber has always
Speaker 3: been his achilles heel for his entire career. It's those
Speaker 3: two things that have held him back, right, So they Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mentioned the two interceptions. Yeah, there could have been
Speaker 3: two more, and they were both on basically what you're
Speaker 3: talking about, him not seeing the underneath defender. I know
Speaker 3: he've gone a long time on this game, but I
Speaker 3: find it kind of very interesting. Just a couple more
Speaker 3: points I want to get to before we leave it.
Speaker 3: I mentioned Marlon Humphrey. He had that injury, knee injury.
Speaker 1: That's important for the Ravens, who you know their defense
Speaker 1: is a little up and down, but certainly finished off
Speaker 1: this game well that. I think the defensive line is
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a nice bounce back because early in
Speaker 3: this game it looked like, oh man, here they go. There.
Speaker 3: They'd struggle to communicate, they're caught out of alignment on
Speaker 3: the touchdown pass to Mike Evans. Buccaneers are going up tempo.
Speaker 3: They're catching them by surprise. But they were able to
Speaker 3: bounce back. Probably for the first time this entire season,
Speaker 3: I saw this Ravens defense legitimately pick themselves up off
Speaker 3: the mat and turn into performance. That makes me think, Oh,
Speaker 3: the potential is there. They're lacking some pieces, some guys
Speaker 3: have gotten hurt zach Orrs, the first year defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: But for the first time this season, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: this Ravens defense can't actually get the job done. Because
Speaker 3: those stops they got in the middle of this game
Speaker 3: were a big part of why the Ravens could put
Speaker 3: up so many points. The Buccaneers offense wasn't on the
Speaker 3: field played in simple I.
Speaker 2: Think they're I think their front is good.
Speaker 1: I mean they stopped the run, and Mattabique and a
Speaker 1: Dafe always stepped up.
Speaker 2: Kyle Vanoy's doing his thing. There's obviously roku on there.
Speaker 1: I think they're a little deeper upfront than than people expected,
Speaker 1: and they're good upfront on both lines. Like their offensive
Speaker 1: line is really improved, Like we're talking about Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: getting these big lanes to run through.
Speaker 2: It's cohesive.
Speaker 1: When they have the option plays and Lamar chooses to run,
Speaker 1: it's just like the easiest eight yards and that's been
Speaker 1: true his whole career. But that does take some cohesion
Speaker 1: that wasn't there the first couple weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: And then Ronnie Stanley, I wanted to point out, didn't
Speaker 1: give up a pressure in this entire game despite all
Speaker 1: those blitzes. That's amazing. Zero pressures. He has given up
Speaker 1: zero sacks all season. Next ten stat says he's the
Speaker 1: only guy with fifty like pass sets to do that,
Speaker 1: and he you know, he's like a couple hundred or
Speaker 1: whatever at this point, so he's playing out of his mind.
Speaker 1: I believe he's in a contract year too, so some
Speaker 1: guys are getting paid there. This is the best team
Speaker 1: in football right now. I don't think there's any question.
Speaker 1: I know that Chiefs fans would disagree, but I just
Speaker 1: think right now, neutral field, who you're taking, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make a difference. Ravens fans know that like that that
Speaker 1: crown is meaningless, but right now they're the best team
Speaker 1: in football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least visually speaking. The Chiefs offense is slow
Speaker 3: and methodical, and the Ravens can put up points in bunches. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: But it's really just.
Speaker 1: Like being able to do it all. Lamar is doing
Speaker 1: it all. He's got the coach to match. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a fun night, even though it was one
Speaker 1: sided by the end, it was a lot of fun
Speaker 1: at least until that late injury. So prayers for Chris Godwin.
Speaker 1: We'll be thinking to him. We're also thinking of the
Speaker 1: Cardinals and the Chargers. We haven't even gotten to the
Speaker 1: other game tonight.
Speaker 2: We'll do that.
Speaker 3: After the breath.
Speaker 7: First down of the forty four of LA good response
Speaker 7: by the Cardinals. Murray under center, trying to pay off
Speaker 7: this drive of a touchdown back to throw off play
Speaker 7: action deep in the pocket, stepping up, moving left, taking
Speaker 7: off running far side.
Speaker 8: Forty five, forty gets past the defender of the thirty
Speaker 8: farside twenty he will walk in ten five touchdown Tyler
Speaker 8: Murray a forty four yard touchdown run. And as soon
Speaker 8: as he got past the defender on the far side
Speaker 8: of about the thirty.
Speaker 1: That was all Steve Road KMV Dave Pass on the call.
Speaker 1: I was waiting to hear Ron Wolfley's voice coming there
Speaker 1: with a little excitement. Dave Pass wasn't kidding, it wasn't
Speaker 1: He wasn't the only one that knew, was all she wrote.
Speaker 1: Kyler Burry did it again. He lifted up his arm
Speaker 1: at about the forty yard line. That's three touchdowns this year.
Speaker 1: He's called in the middle of the play like thirty
Speaker 1: yards out.
Speaker 2: I love this man. I mean, he's having a weird season.
Speaker 1: It's not even that good, but kind of like this game,
Speaker 1: not that good, but good enough for the Cardinals. They
Speaker 1: win it seventeen to fifteen on a night the Chargers
Speaker 1: didn't get a touchdown, and yes, the Cardinals did get
Speaker 1: a game winning field goal from our old friend Chad Ryland.
Speaker 1: And yet our producer Eric Roberts really making a stamp
Speaker 1: on this show. He's killing it this season with his baby.
Speaker 1: His Dodgers are in the World Series. He says, hey,
Speaker 1: there's no rule you have to put the game winning
Speaker 1: field goal as the radio call. It wasn't that exciting,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that special. It was a chip shot. I'm
Speaker 1: putting my stamp on this show. I'm making it the
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray touchdown call. I agree, that's more memorable. What
Speaker 1: do you think, Nick, It's artistic integrity right there.
Speaker 3: I mean, who else would would come through and say,
Speaker 3: you know what, the best play was the Kyler. This
Speaker 3: game didn't have a lot of great plays, Greg and
Speaker 3: look we have the with Tody's right, worst throws of
Speaker 3: the year. Have about a nominee here for worst pursuit
Speaker 3: angle of the year. Those of you watching on YouTuber
Speaker 3: saw it. Chargers linebacker Junior Colson, He's a rookie for Michigan.
Speaker 3: Terrible pursued angle got roasted on the broadcast. He was
Speaker 3: the last line of defense on that touchdown run. Made
Speaker 3: it too easy for Kyler.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was texting with with Mina today about that,
Speaker 1: about that Junior Colson is unplayable. Mina chimes and she
Speaker 1: was like, you're way too invested in this Chargers defense,
Speaker 1: and I am. I had this this right, friendly gentleman's
Speaker 1: you know, wager that they would finish at least in
Speaker 1: the top twenty of the DVOA defense of this year
Speaker 1: with Mina and look, they're going to do that easily.
Speaker 1: They're in the top five right now. But I've been
Speaker 1: watching Junior Colson week after week and like, they can't
Speaker 1: play them. Day on, Henley's pretty good and Junior Colson
Speaker 1: is killing me week after Let's actually bring in Eric. Eric,
Speaker 1: you can put yourself on the camera here, because you know,
Speaker 1: first of all, you you wanted this highlight in it's
Speaker 1: big moment for you.
Speaker 2: And then you said you hated this game. This game
Speaker 2: was annoying you. Why? Why? What's with the hate?
Speaker 9: I think just maybe because I had the Bucks and
Speaker 9: the Ravens. I think it was maybe maybe there was.
Speaker 9: It was the only game going on at that time.
Speaker 9: You know, it's okay, yeah, I love it, but I
Speaker 9: think every time, and you know what really bugged me
Speaker 9: was the ticker in the top corner of the Buccaneers
Speaker 9: Ravens game. I'd look up and it's like three zero
Speaker 9: three zero six nine. That's just I think the comparison
Speaker 9: is what got me today. There was so much a
Speaker 9: dumb scorers.
Speaker 1: And I'm with you, I'm you know, I'm I believe
Speaker 1: in you, Eric, and I'm going to listen to your guidance.
Speaker 1: And if you say that call wasn't worth it.
Speaker 3: I mean, how can a Dodger fan who's used all
Speaker 3: these home runs be happy with field goals? I totally
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: Here's where I will push back. I think this was
Speaker 1: a good game. I mean it was memorable in that Yes,
Speaker 1: it was so perfect that it was like the ESPN
Speaker 1: Plus Undercard game, and it's like the ultimate Justin Herbert game.
Speaker 1: This was Justin Herbert's career game because he absolutely balled
Speaker 1: out in this game. For anyone that didn't watch the
Speaker 1: first two and a half three quarters closely, if you
Speaker 1: put this on your game pass or on your NFL
Speaker 1: Pro and I kind of want to rewatch it almost
Speaker 1: because I did start going back through every single play yet,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, my god, Justin Herbert's playing like one
Speaker 1: of the best games I've seen anyone.
Speaker 2: Play all year.
Speaker 1: He threw for over three hundred and fifty yards, He
Speaker 1: had dime after dime after dime. His receivers were dropping
Speaker 1: so many passes, and so you think that Justin Herbert, Okay,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's playing the best he's certainly played all year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty nine yards twenty seven for thirty
Speaker 1: nine despite all those drops, and yet they don't even
Speaker 1: score a freaking touchdown. Yeah, they're on ESPN Plus and
Speaker 1: they lose on a last second field goal where there's
Speaker 1: like controversial non calls and controversial penalties.
Speaker 2: Like this was Justin Herbert's career in a nutshell.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he has like Greg Roman
Speaker 1: as an ankle weight as his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: That's it. It's Justin Herbert's career.
Speaker 3: Greg Roman, who is known for scheming up a good
Speaker 3: running game, and their leading rushers tonight finishes with forty
Speaker 3: yards on fourteen carries. The entire onus was on the
Speaker 3: shoulders of Justin Herbert, and like you said, he balled out.
Speaker 3: And then it was Lad McConkey dropping passes, and it
Speaker 3: was Seemy Filoko dropping passes, and anybody with the ball
Speaker 3: within the catch radios dropping passes. It was so frustrating.
Speaker 3: It rote in to what we learned. It was nine numbing.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just sitting here shouting at the screen. Somebody
Speaker 3: make a freaking play. The one guy who made a
Speaker 3: play early in this game, Jalen Rager, catches a beautiful
Speaker 3: deep ball from Justin Herbert and immediately fubbles it into
Speaker 3: the end zone. That's the Chargers offense in a nutshell
Speaker 3: this season. It drives me insane.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, so I thought, after last week's game, Oh,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is about to go on one.
Speaker 2: Not to pat myself on the back, but.
Speaker 3: No, well, known to do that. Here you go, here's
Speaker 3: a pet.
Speaker 1: And I really thought he came out of the by
Speaker 1: looking like Justin Herbert from twenty twenty one, twenty two,
Speaker 1: you know, most of twenty three, like when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: and he just wasn't that guy for most of this
Speaker 1: year because he was playing through injuries and it's a
Speaker 1: new offense and they're playing very conservative. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's planting on the back foot, he's throwing some passes downfield,
Speaker 1: he's moving better, he's looking like Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: And so I think you saw that tonight.
Speaker 1: So I think Chargers fans should be very frustrated with
Speaker 1: this loss. And yet I do think there is some
Speaker 1: hope that, yeah, there's not a lot of good receivers
Speaker 1: around him, maybe they'll trade for Mike Williams or trade
Speaker 1: for someone else that can help. It's not a great
Speaker 1: sign that will Disley goes eight for eighty one. He's
Speaker 1: their leading receiver with eleven eleven targets, and like mcconkey's
Speaker 1: banged up and he's playing through it, and Josh Palmer's
Speaker 1: banged up and he's playing through.
Speaker 2: It, and they're just not explosive.
Speaker 1: But I do think this is the best Herbert's played
Speaker 1: easily back to back weeks now. And this was a
Speaker 1: really good game because it wasn't just that they were
Speaker 1: dropping these easy short passes. He was making some nice
Speaker 1: opposite hash field throws to the sideline that make you believe, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this offense is coming along. They got to keep improving
Speaker 1: because if they do improve and the running game can
Speaker 1: be better than tonight and it was terrible tonight, like
Speaker 1: shockingly terrible, then they might have something because they have
Speaker 1: a pretty good defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll get the Cardinals defense some credit too,
Speaker 3: because they made a few nice pass breakups and contests
Speaker 3: on catches that could have been catches and end up
Speaker 3: being any completions because the drops or breakups whatever. But
Speaker 3: when you look at them from an offense as a
Speaker 3: whole standpoint, this is still just reminds me way too
Speaker 3: much of where they've been for most of this year,
Speaker 3: which is a low stealing when it comes to scoring.
Speaker 3: I mean, five field goals accounts for your fifteen points.
Speaker 3: They're in a third and short situation late in the game,
Speaker 3: in field goal range, and they opt for a low
Speaker 3: percentage jump ball to the end zone. And the receiver
Speaker 3: never even runs the full route so much that Jim
Speaker 3: Harbaugh is complaining about pass interference. They picked up the
Speaker 3: flag because the ball was uncatchab because he wasn't within range.
Speaker 3: Why are you not treating that like two downs or
Speaker 3: at least draining some more clock if you're going to
Speaker 3: kick the go ahead field goal in the final two
Speaker 3: minutes of a game. It's an approach issue for the
Speaker 3: Chargers in my opinion, especially when the running game doesn't work.
Speaker 3: This offense struggles justin Herbert plays well and they still
Speaker 3: struggle and they still lose. But my biggest concern with
Speaker 3: them greg This defense, which is supposed to be tough,
Speaker 3: which you just talked about, is going to finish, you know,
Speaker 3: up in the top twenty or maybe top ten in DVA.
Speaker 3: They crumble down the stretch. They didn't lose in time
Speaker 3: of possession. They weren't gassed. Okay, they let a Cardinals
Speaker 3: offense go right down the field and kick the game
Speaker 3: winning field goal.
Speaker 2: I mean they gave up seven ten points.
Speaker 3: Put in the clutch. They weren't there in the clutch.
Speaker 3: That was James Connor catches the pass for thirty three
Speaker 3: yards to set up the game winning field goal. That's unacceptable.
Speaker 2: Fair.
Speaker 1: That was a mistackle by the guy. I just gave
Speaker 1: some flowers to Dayon Henley. It was a tough It
Speaker 1: was a tough play. Kyler Murray makes a good play,
Speaker 1: makes something out of nothing, buying a little extra time.
Speaker 2: It was just one.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like some plays that Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: was making tonight to me, where he just changes the
Speaker 1: angle and changes the geometry, where that extra second he
Speaker 1: holds the ball just changes the angles and it's tough.
Speaker 1: James Connor is freaking awesome. Everyone should apologize if they
Speaker 1: got on Jordan Rodrige the athletic for putting him on
Speaker 1: our All Pro team before the season, because man, I
Speaker 1: just I just love watching this guy play. And Connor
Speaker 1: was the key tonight and him breaking that tackle what
Speaker 1: was a thirty three yard game. He had another eighteen
Speaker 1: yard catch, so he was their leading receiver despite a
Speaker 1: lot of in early two catches, and he had one
Speaker 1: hundred and one yards and they were hard earned yards.
Speaker 2: And they didn't have it.
Speaker 1: Always are a ton of offense, but they had enough offense.
Speaker 1: Like the scheme seems a little off compared to what
Speaker 1: we expected. You know it, but they Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: James Connor made enough good individual plays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some simple truths to this Cardinals offense.
Speaker 3: If James James Connor is cooking, they have a shot
Speaker 3: to win a game. If James Connor is not cooking,
Speaker 3: third down is gonna be a miserable viewing experience for everybody,
Speaker 3: because that's usually what it is for them. It's third
Speaker 3: and long and it's Kyler just being asked to be
Speaker 3: a hero. Luckily they avoided that after that some early
Speaker 3: stretches of that tonight because Connor got going, they got
Speaker 3: to halftime and I think their combined r yards total
Speaker 3: was a little bit over one hundred. Him and Murray
Speaker 3: end up with over two fifty by the end of
Speaker 3: the game because they really came on strong in the
Speaker 3: second half, and in a game like this, that was
Speaker 3: the difference. Again, not aesthetically pleasing in terms of points scored,
Speaker 3: but for those of you who appreciate throwbacks like James
Speaker 3: Connor and tough football, you'll enjoy watching this game.
Speaker 1: Hey, and a run quarterback like Kyler Murray who can
Speaker 1: just rip off a forty four yarder and had another
Speaker 1: key scramble and they pointed out is accurate in the
Speaker 1: red zone, and they were saying, how confident Kyler is that,
Speaker 1: Like he gets so locked in the red zone. I
Speaker 1: love Kyler's confidence. He's just he's so freaking confident and like,
Speaker 1: if you're his height and you're gonna be one of
Speaker 1: the best, Like, yeah, let's say ten to twelve in
Speaker 1: the world at what he does, like, you better be confident.
Speaker 2: And he's had like an okay season.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say it's been up and down because
Speaker 1: it's been mostly just at a simmering level of like okayness.
Speaker 1: He had that one great game against the Rams, and
Speaker 1: otherwise it's just been like okay, Like he's not playing poorly,
Speaker 1: he's I think he's a little more under control than
Speaker 1: he used to be. Him and Marvin Harrison, though, can't
Speaker 1: get on the same page. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: Harrison or what. The broadcast crew is really getting on
Speaker 1: the Cardinals for not feed him more. And then they
Speaker 1: were showing him have really poor effort on some of
Speaker 1: his routes and they're like, yeah, look at this poor effort.
Speaker 2: See, you got to feed him more. So he doesn't have.
Speaker 1: This poor effort, and I'm thinking like, hey, how about
Speaker 1: not have the poor effort, Like, okay, how about run
Speaker 1: your routes.
Speaker 3: That's right. But I also think that Harrison comes from
Speaker 3: a place at Ohio State where he was the guy
Speaker 3: and he had a quarterback in Kyle McCord who was
Speaker 3: basically told throw to Marvin, no matter what he could be,
Speaker 3: double throw to Marvin. He's in the NFL now where
Speaker 3: he's not getting the same attention. So it's not that
Speaker 3: feed him throughout the game. It's get him going early,
Speaker 3: get him into a rhythm. I mean, he finished this
Speaker 3: to night with six targets. He's got three catches for
Speaker 3: twenty one yards. He drops a ball thrown between double
Speaker 3: coverage on that final drive in which they did go
Speaker 3: down and kick the game winning field goal. He just
Speaker 3: wasn't a part of the offense. And this offense is
Speaker 3: limited enough, especially when the running games is not going,
Speaker 3: that you got to get him going if you're gonna
Speaker 3: beat a team that's better than the Chargers defensively. So
Speaker 3: I can understand the concern. I would love to see
Speaker 3: him ball out because I know he's got the talent
Speaker 3: for it, but I think he got to get him
Speaker 3: going early.
Speaker 1: I agree, but he's a rookie receiver that for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: like it's not all there yet. It's not Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Brian Thomas yet. And you can say, like,
Speaker 1: let's feed him. I mean they have been. They've thrown
Speaker 1: the ball to him thirty seven times in six games
Speaker 1: before tonight. Yeah, that's that's over. You know what is
Speaker 1: that's over six per game. I guess that's not crazy.
Speaker 1: But he's only caught seventeen of those throws. Now, some
Speaker 1: of that is on Kyler, but it just hasn't been
Speaker 1: an efficient play for them, and sometimes they have just
Speaker 1: been forcing it to him that I don't get his
Speaker 1: usage though, Like they're just using him as if he's
Speaker 1: Ted Gin and that's not really who he is. It's
Speaker 1: just like there's a there was a stat of like
Speaker 1: who's furthest down the field within a couple seconds of
Speaker 1: the play starting, and Harrison is among the lead leasers,
Speaker 1: So that means like his average route.
Speaker 2: Is just going deep, deep, deep.
Speaker 1: Another player in this game was also in the top
Speaker 1: five of this stat. I would give you ten guesses,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you would get it.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to get you guess which which team
Speaker 3: is he on? Is he on the Cardinals Chargers?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't wanna I said, I said, another
Speaker 1: receiver in this game, and you can't guess it is
Speaker 1: in the top five of this stat And the stat
Speaker 1: if we haven't lost all of our listeners and viewers,
Speaker 1: is like how far you are down the field after
Speaker 1: I think two seconds or three seconds something like that?
Speaker 3: Come on, is he Greg Georg No? But decent, don't
Speaker 3: don't do not tell me it's Jalen Riger.
Speaker 1: It's it's Seemiko, Yeah, which Herbert loves to throw to him,
Speaker 1: whether reason one on one or not.
Speaker 2: It's a burner.
Speaker 1: And but basically all that says is like, that's you're
Speaker 1: just running like nine routes.
Speaker 2: You're just running, You're just running down.
Speaker 3: That still doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make a lot of sense for Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1: And they got to get that going. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: the call that they didn't make for the Chargers, and
Speaker 1: you also mentioned the call that that went against the
Speaker 1: Chargers on that hit to the head of Harrison, which
Speaker 1: it was a it was a tough call. Tough couple
Speaker 1: of calls went against the Chargers. It was close. I
Speaker 1: would need to see it again. But big win for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. There three and four and their only one
Speaker 1: game out in the NFC West. It's just one of
Speaker 1: those important wins that kind of like keeps them connected.
Speaker 1: Like this is a team where I think things could
Speaker 1: go pretty wrong if if they far fall too far out,
Speaker 1: But in this division, they feel like, okay, like we're
Speaker 1: in it. We're still a relevant team. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of irrelevant teams right now in the NFL. They're
Speaker 1: mostly in the AFC, but like there's more bad teams
Speaker 1: than usual. I didn't want the Cardinals to be one
Speaker 1: of those teams this year, and I'm kind of glad
Speaker 1: they're sticking around five hundred. Yeah, the Chargers have kind
Speaker 1: of played like a five hundred team so far, so
Speaker 1: they deserve to be at three and three. I'm happy
Speaker 1: with both these teams records.
Speaker 3: Put it down, this felt more like a finish and
Speaker 3: an addition to the record that matched who the Chargers
Speaker 3: are than the Cardinals necessarily. Like the Chargers coming into
Speaker 3: this game, what were they three and two? They felt
Speaker 3: like they were not the best three and two. Team
Speaker 3: three and three seems better and we'll see where they
Speaker 3: go from here. But they're not quite that good yet.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna build on last week what
Speaker 1: they did against Denver, and they just didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't tonight.
Speaker 1: They should have had a better offensive game. This This
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense is tricky, though we've talked about it on
Speaker 1: the show before. It's what Michael Lombardi used to call
Speaker 1: on the Simmons Podcast, a battleship defense that if if
Speaker 1: they like put the if they hit the right like
Speaker 1: components in the right week, like R three and L
Speaker 1: six or whatever, like it hits. And this was a
Speaker 1: good defensive game plan where they really managed to stop
Speaker 1: the run. And they don't have a lot of talent,
Speaker 1: but it seemed to work. I did just want to
Speaker 1: give one quick shout out to Will Disley, not just
Speaker 1: for all those receptions, but for sending a Buddha Baker
Speaker 1: underground with one of the stiff arms of my lifetime.
Speaker 1: I really think so that was one of the best
Speaker 1: stiff arms I've ever seen. I mean, he basically he
Speaker 1: like picked up it was almost like he picked up
Speaker 1: the man's face and then threw it onto the ground.
Speaker 1: He like dunked him. That's you can't really do better
Speaker 1: on a stiff arm than that. I really do do
Speaker 1: think that's one of the best stiff arms ever.
Speaker 3: The only way you can do better is what Derreck
Speaker 3: Henry did to Josh Norman, which is pret by his
Speaker 3: face and throw him in the end.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what reminded me of It's not It
Speaker 1: wasn't that level, and I think there's something similar here
Speaker 1: where it's a defensive back. It was a little lighter
Speaker 1: and just flies and has no regard for their body.
Speaker 1: And that's what Buddha Baker was here. It's almost like
Speaker 1: they're not trying to stop themselves from getting posterized, and
Speaker 1: you almost respect that out of them. But yes, that
Speaker 1: was that was what happened to poor Buddha Baker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is a good week for that. Greg.
Speaker 3: We also had the Patrick Mahomes trucking of Milk Mustafa
Speaker 3: on the goal line.
Speaker 2: That was good too.
Speaker 1: Show a lot of good candidates for for the scepter
Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football with Kyle Brand. That's it for
Speaker 1: for this game at least, although I did want to
Speaker 1: just introduce one of my medium takes before before we leave,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just a question I've been writing
Speaker 1: down in my notebook for the last few weeks, which
Speaker 1: is is the off Chargers offensive line? And he I'm
Speaker 1: leaning towards no, Like it's got all these big time
Speaker 1: names and I heard it was gonna be good and
Speaker 1: Greg Roman's the coach.
Speaker 2: But what I see is not good.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I don't care how many first round picks and all
Speaker 1: like Joe Allt and race On Slater and all this.
Speaker 2: It's like, it doesn't look good. Doesn't look at me.
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be better this year, and they
Speaker 3: did lose both of them for a stretcher in the season,
Speaker 3: so the sample size is small. But consider this from
Speaker 3: next Gen stats. Justin Herbert averaged three point zero eight
Speaker 3: seconds to throw on Monday Night, the longest time to
Speaker 3: throw in a game this season. He completed twenty two
Speaker 3: to thirty one over two and a half seconds for
Speaker 3: three hundred and two yards. So he is getting time
Speaker 3: to throw, which is better than what we could have
Speaker 3: said about him earlier this season.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's making time to throw, but yeah, maybe I
Speaker 1: got also is good under but I felt like I
Speaker 1: saw them losing, certainly in the running game. But that's
Speaker 1: a fair retort and that's why you make the big bucks.
Speaker 1: Nick Schuck, All right, let's do some news. Eric, you're
Speaker 1: still there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a sneaky amount of news today.
Speaker 1: We'll roll through a pretty quick surprising report came out
Speaker 1: on Monday night.
Speaker 2: ESPN's Adam Schefter had it first. Jamison Williams is reportedly
Speaker 2: going to be suspended for two games for a pe
Speaker 2: D suspension.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is after he was suspended already for violin
Speaker 3: league's gambling policy. It's early in his career and folks
Speaker 3: have said that he has matured, but a second suspension
Speaker 3: for a different thing suggests that maybe he doesn't make
Speaker 3: the best decisions. So we'll see about the details if
Speaker 3: they ever come out about what happened. But kind of
Speaker 3: a bummer. Luckily it's only two games from the Lions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamison Williams confirmed it. He says he has no
Speaker 1: choice but to take it on the chin. I'm in
Speaker 1: good spirits. I'm just ready to be back with my
Speaker 1: brother's as ap. And yeah, I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure I credited the right person here.
Speaker 2: Eric Woodyard with ESPN. That was chefter passing it along.
Speaker 1: Good reporting there that he got the quotes from Jamison
Speaker 1: Williams before it was even officially announced. So that is
Speaker 1: going to happen, And yeah, that's a big loss for them,
Speaker 1: but it is going to be a short term loss.
Speaker 1: A little more Tim Patrick in Our Life been a
Speaker 1: nice story, Tim Patrick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like the way he's fitting that offense
Speaker 3: so far, has made some nice plays.
Speaker 1: He's not going to replace Jameson Williams, but you can
Speaker 1: get Kelly Fraeman to just do a little.
Speaker 2: Bit of a Jameson Williams impression for a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks and they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But disappointing obviously for the team and for Williams, and
Speaker 1: especially in a season where he'd been doing so many
Speaker 1: good things. We got the confirmation of the bad news
Speaker 1: we expected Nick on Sunday. We found out Monday Brandon
Speaker 1: Ayuk is indeed going to miss the season with a
Speaker 1: torn ac l. We also learned that Christian McCaffrey will
Speaker 1: not return this week. They have a Sunday night game
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, then they have a bye. Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: had some optimism about Kaffrey returning after the bye. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk will not be returning at all this season.
Speaker 1: We'll see, if you know, when CMC is back on
Speaker 1: the field, if there's another receiver maybe brought into the
Speaker 1: fold by the forty nine Ers. Maybe we'll talk a
Speaker 1: little forty nine Ers trade candidates on our trade deadline
Speaker 1: preview spectacular that's coming up on Wednesday show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the idea of sending Mike Williams back to the
Speaker 3: Chargers made me laugh just because of the pairing, But
Speaker 3: I mean, why not kick the tires there if they
Speaker 3: need somebody. Luckily, Ricky Piersol made his debut this weekend,
Speaker 3: but this is a team that really needs the bye.
Speaker 3: Wee with all these injuries, including Jordan Mason who played
Speaker 3: over the weekend, but we know he's dealing with the
Speaker 3: shoulder issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and John Jennings was out of that game, and
Speaker 1: that they Deebo Samuel is in the hospital. I should
Speaker 1: have mentioned that up top with pneumonia. He had fluid
Speaker 1: in his lungs, so there actually is no timetable of
Speaker 1: him getting out of the hospital. That sounds scary, and
Speaker 1: you know, you hope, you hope the best for him.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's a situation that it's not a long term
Speaker 1: situation and it can be very serious. He would not
Speaker 1: be in the hospital if it wasn't. So yeah, just
Speaker 1: a lot going on in San Francisco and we'll get
Speaker 1: more news on debo throughout the week. But yeah, devastating
Speaker 1: for Ayuk. You're happy for him that he got his contract,
Speaker 1: but this season of that just it's like bad vibes
Speaker 1: in the offseason for the forty nine ers and partly
Speaker 1: for Ayuk, and you hate to see that it's kind
Speaker 1: of continuing here with that injury.
Speaker 2: Really unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels does not have an injury that serious at
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders are calling him week to week. We
Speaker 1: didn't really get details on the rib injury, but Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn says he's hopeful that he'll play against the Bears.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a comfort thing, which is usually the case
Speaker 3: with rib injuries, especially for quarterbacks. I know most of
Speaker 3: them were flack jackets, you know, rib protectors. Nothing that
Speaker 3: you really want to rush, though, if you can find
Speaker 3: a way to make it work with Marcus Mariota for
Speaker 3: a week, you do that and exercise caution and it's
Speaker 3: still good news.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 3: You didn't want anything that was going to keep him
Speaker 3: out for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you you want to see that game against Caleb Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Mariota showed enough that you believe we could win
Speaker 1: a game with with Mariota. And either way, the only
Speaker 1: thing that really matters is Jaden Daniels's health for this season.
Speaker 1: So they're not gonna tell us necessarily if it's bruised
Speaker 1: ribs or one smaller fracture or whether it's four fractures.
Speaker 1: You know, we're probably not going to get that report.
Speaker 1: And there's there's just like no way we're gonna know
Speaker 1: unless someone has a good source inside the commanders.
Speaker 2: So get working, like everyone's all buddy buddies with.
Speaker 1: With Cliff and and that staff, Like, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: see that reporting come out.
Speaker 2: Let's find out tell.
Speaker 3: Them, take those sunglasses off and look you in the
Speaker 3: eye and say, look, tell me the truth. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. That'll probably be something.
Speaker 1: Look, if I had Jayden and Daniels on my team
Speaker 1: and you're not sure if he's going to start or not, yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably leave that up in the air until last
Speaker 1: just just to make the Bears prepare for both scenarios.
Speaker 1: Looks like we'll be in a similar situation with to
Speaker 1: a Tongue of Iloa this week finding out if he's
Speaker 1: officially out of the concussion protocol. He will be returning
Speaker 1: to practice officially on Wednesday, so he has to practice
Speaker 1: to get out of the protocol. So there are still
Speaker 1: steps to happen, but it does sound like the team
Speaker 1: is confident he's going to be ready to go. He
Speaker 1: spoke on Monday, said he had been symptom free for
Speaker 1: weeks and had no problem with the Dolphins putting him
Speaker 1: on injured reserve because that's what the expert said was
Speaker 1: most safe for his health, but also said it you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't something that was bothering him as early as
Speaker 1: twenty four hours after the concussion. Let's listen to to
Speaker 1: a Tongue of Iiloa a little defiant in his conversations today.
Speaker 10: Well, how much risks did we take when we get
Speaker 10: up in the morning to go to go drive to work,
Speaker 10: car crash? Mean I don't know everything I think takes less.
Speaker 10: So to answer that question, every time we all suit up,
Speaker 10: we're all taking a risk that we could potentially get hurt,
Speaker 10: whether it's a concussion, a broken bone. Anything, you get
Speaker 10: up off of the bed the wrong way, you potentially
Speaker 10: could risk he's spraining your ankle on There's just risk
Speaker 10: in any any and everything, and I'm willing to play
Speaker 10: the odds.
Speaker 2: He had me until the getting out of the bed thing.
Speaker 2: Now you really did?
Speaker 1: I want to be serious because that was just like
Speaker 1: a clumsy analogy.
Speaker 2: But what do you think of what he said?
Speaker 3: I mean kind of sounds like somebody who's getting on
Speaker 3: a plane and trying to tell their friend that they're
Speaker 3: safer on a plane than they are in traffic.
Speaker 1: I'm that guy, though, Like he actually he actually did,
Speaker 1: you know, make a fair point about the car stuff.
Speaker 1: I think about that, like that is it? Yeah, there
Speaker 1: is a lot of risk in that, and we're willing
Speaker 1: to accept it. Like I at least think it's worth
Speaker 1: like listening to him on it and considering his vantage
Speaker 1: point on it.
Speaker 3: Well, I think if he's the one who's willing to
Speaker 3: lay it on the line, then you kind of can't
Speaker 3: get in the way, especially if the doctors say he's
Speaker 3: clear to play. I know this team certainly needs him.
Speaker 3: I just watched back that Colts Dolphin's ugly game that
Speaker 3: took place on Sunday when in which Tyler Huntley and
Speaker 3: Tim Boyle played, And I know they need to a back,
Speaker 3: but again it comes down to what he wants. If
Speaker 3: that's what he wants, then you can't stop him. If
Speaker 3: he knows the risk, you can't stop him.
Speaker 2: I think he is frustrated.
Speaker 1: There were some other quotes during that press conference, maybe
Speaker 1: with the tone of it, that people are treating him
Speaker 1: so differently than other players, and he said, do I
Speaker 1: want to be known for this? Like, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: Those are the cars I've been dealt. I hate that
Speaker 1: it happened. You know, we don't look at boxers the
Speaker 1: same way we don't look at hockey players. And it
Speaker 1: is interesting because like Chris o'lave's out with a concussion
Speaker 1: still from a couple.
Speaker 2: Of weeks ago. Now he was on an outwhere of
Speaker 2: them that was a brutal hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he had a pretty serious concussion a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago too, and he's had won every season
Speaker 1: that he's had, Like Derek Carr's had had a smattering
Speaker 1: of concussions late last season that he like quickly returned
Speaker 1: from and I think what Tua might be getting at too,
Speaker 1: it might be frustrated with is like there's so much
Speaker 1: attention on to a tongue of I looa, and there's
Speaker 1: a reason for that. When he suffered him, it's looked
Speaker 1: really serious. In the fencing position, it's been everyone watching
Speaker 1: and they have been really serious. So I just think
Speaker 1: there's nuance to it. But he was it was a
Speaker 1: different to it.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: He said he did not consider retirement, and he respected
Speaker 1: everyone's question, but I think he kind of stood his
Speaker 1: ground and was just very clear in where he was at.
Speaker 1: And I think actually it was good to hear from him.
Speaker 1: And when I heard those quotes like that, we just
Speaker 1: played it. It made me think a little bit differently
Speaker 1: about the situation.
Speaker 3: Yes, what it really speaks to is also the locker
Speaker 3: room environment, because you don't want to be the one
Speaker 3: player on your team that's being treated with kid gloves
Speaker 3: and being treated especially as opposed to all of your teammates,
Speaker 3: no matter whether you're in high school, in college in
Speaker 3: the NFL, you don't you want to be considered to
Speaker 3: be right alongside the rest of your guys ready to
Speaker 3: go to war. And I know it sounds crazy, but
Speaker 3: that's that's the football playing mindset. So he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to be treated like that. He wants to go out
Speaker 3: there and play football and everybody stop worrying about his
Speaker 3: health and he'll handle that.
Speaker 1: So I understand, right, And I also would understand and
Speaker 1: respect if he didn't want to play football anymore. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we that we'd all be in that position where
Speaker 1: we say, look, we totally respect that. Of course, it's
Speaker 1: this guy's decision for what to do. So on the
Speaker 1: flip side, maybe I was thinking that it's a little
Speaker 1: hypocritical not to give him the agency to take all
Speaker 1: the information. He's a serious, smart guy and make the
Speaker 1: decision that a lot of players make. You know, he's
Speaker 1: he is not the only one, and respect that too,
Speaker 1: and obviously hope for the best. So other injury news
Speaker 1: around the league, DK Metcalf is week to week with
Speaker 1: a knee injury. They have a game against the Bills,
Speaker 1: which I'm really intrigued by this week, and they'd really
Speaker 1: miss DK Metcalf. He obviously changes their entire offense. We'll
Speaker 1: see if he can get back on the field. But
Speaker 1: usually week to week means you're out, which is why
Speaker 1: when they said week to week for Jade Daniels, I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: he's out, But then then Dan Quinn sounded so hopeful
Speaker 1: that I'll play that it made me think, well, week
Speaker 1: to week doesn't necessarily mean anything in particular, but I
Speaker 1: would expect dk Metcalf to miss this week's game just
Speaker 1: because they use that phrasing. I wanted to listen to
Speaker 1: a little Dave Canalis sound. We haven't heard a ton
Speaker 1: this season from the Panthers coach. He was asked on
Speaker 1: Monday if the team would consider trading Bryce Young and
Speaker 1: whether they felt like they would need to play Bryce
Speaker 1: Young to see what they have before possibly trading him.
Speaker 5: Right now, we're focused on the Broncos and he's played
Speaker 5: this week, and that's really where our focus is at,
Speaker 5: you know, And all those other conversations are all hypothetical
Speaker 5: conversations that you know definitely and Brant, you know that
Speaker 5: we have to have. But right now, we're focused on
Speaker 5: playing the Broncos and you know, folks, on getting Andy
Speaker 5: to take another step in terms of getting us back
Speaker 5: to good football.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I could have played more of his press conference,
Speaker 1: which had similar quotes. People were asking him pretty directly
Speaker 1: like is Bryce Young going to be traded? Like could
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, you know, be on the trade block? And
Speaker 1: he won't even answer those questions. That just makes me think, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to trade Bryce Young. That's just my instinct
Speaker 1: because I think it just makes sense. I think the
Speaker 1: timing makes sense.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, obviously he's got to defer to the
Speaker 3: front office because they make those moves ultimately, but yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't want to take the value of your quarterback
Speaker 3: either in trade talks. That makes sense too, But what
Speaker 3: makes the most sense is getting him out of there.
Speaker 3: The fact that they didn't play him in that blowout
Speaker 3: loss until last three minutes of the game kind of
Speaker 3: told you everything you needed to know, which is that
Speaker 3: we're not worried about his development. We're potentially worried about
Speaker 3: preserving his trade value.
Speaker 1: Right because if you're going to get trade value for him,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be very low, it's going to
Speaker 1: be better right now than it then it likely will.
Speaker 3: Be the him better on the trade market, because.
Speaker 1: First of all, like he'll probably play again and that
Speaker 1: won't go well, because nothing's going to go well on
Speaker 1: this Panthers team until proven otherwise. And I've just seen
Speaker 1: like too many quarterbacks that absolutely like struggled. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's at a pretty crazy level. But Josh Rosen got
Speaker 1: a late second that was crazy. They king about it now,
Speaker 1: but from Miami. I mean that was that was maybe
Speaker 1: ownership getting involved, if if I had to guess at
Speaker 1: the time, because they were just looking for like quarterback solutions.
Speaker 3: Because that was the year after they got Jacob Wing
Speaker 3: right and that didn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were I've seen I've like these quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: struggle in their first spot.
Speaker 2: They always get something.
Speaker 1: With Bryce it might only be like a conditional fifth
Speaker 1: to a fourth or something like that. Baker got it's
Speaker 1: it still would be better then it'll be later. So
Speaker 1: I I just got an instinct that they're going to
Speaker 1: trade him. I thought it was interesting to and the
Speaker 1: mcaffee show that Bill Belichick said he was kind of
Speaker 1: hurt that Drod Mayo said the Patriots defense was soft
Speaker 1: and then listed how good the Patriots were in terms
Speaker 1: of their run defense last year, and it's all the
Speaker 1: same players for the most part, and actually they're a
Speaker 1: little healthier this year in some spots, although he was
Speaker 1: leaving out other key players that weren't there Judean, Christian Barmore,
Speaker 1: Juan Bentley.
Speaker 2: But you know that was, you know, kind of self serving.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting that he just said
Speaker 1: none of these guys are soft. These are tough, hard
Speaker 1: nosed players, and you know he's putting Mayo in a
Speaker 1: tough spot, and he's almost telling Mayo through Pat McAfee
Speaker 1: like you're blowing it, dude, don't say this stuff.
Speaker 3: I think not having Christian Barmore is a bigger loss
Speaker 3: than people realize. I mean, especially just the trench play.
Speaker 3: He's a wrecker in there, like he causes problems, and
Speaker 3: not having him, they're hurting without him. But I just
Speaker 3: think it's really refreshing to see Belichick like unfiltered, like
Speaker 3: not just on distance, Naty Belichick. Like at one point
Speaker 3: he made a comment about the Jets, saying, like the
Speaker 3: Jets and the Jets and Woody is Woody and how
Speaker 3: they handle the Robert Sola thing. Like it's just it's
Speaker 3: really really refreshing to see Belichick open up, kind of
Speaker 3: like it was when Tom Brady went to Tampa back
Speaker 3: in the day.
Speaker 1: Okay, good comp I will make like a point of clarification,
Speaker 1: I would say I do not think he's unfiltered. I
Speaker 1: think he's extremely filtered and calculated. Like he has certain
Speaker 1: things that he yes, he has certain points that he's
Speaker 1: happy to hit. One of them is Drowd Mayo, which
Speaker 1: is why I thought this was interesting enough to bring
Speaker 1: up of, Like he's not afraid to be critical of
Speaker 1: the Patriots right now and Drowd Mayo and how drowd
Speaker 1: Mayo is handling things and don't I don't blame him, frankly,
Speaker 1: you know drowd Mayo, Like that's a risky thing to
Speaker 1: call your team soft and the play you know, his
Speaker 1: players that Belichick know as well, Like they might not
Speaker 1: like that, and that's his way of saying that. But
Speaker 1: he has his angles that he's willing to take, like
Speaker 1: maybe people that have in the past.
Speaker 3: Yes, there it is.
Speaker 2: And he's taking shots.
Speaker 1: Whereas where I see him do a lot of game
Speaker 1: analysis and stuff, it's pretty vanilla and it's almost like
Speaker 1: he's protecting himself versus future employers or versus things being
Speaker 1: brought up next year when he's on the sideline.
Speaker 3: That's just what I mean. The way that he left
Speaker 3: New England. I mean they parted amicably, supposedly, but like
Speaker 3: you think you really wanted to lose that job. I
Speaker 3: don't think so there's a little bit of vindictiveness in this. Hey,
Speaker 3: you know what, grass ain't always greener. You know, I
Speaker 3: found more success with those guys last year. You better
Speaker 3: figure it out, Patriots. If you thought he was a
Speaker 3: better coach than me, or a better choice than me,
Speaker 3: better figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, he's prompted by McAfee with the question,
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit of a victory lap. And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I don't blame him, but he's not wrong.
Speaker 1: Their defensast collapse without him, They aren't as well coached.
Speaker 1: That was I think a misstep probably by Drod Mayo.
Speaker 1: And now he's gonna have to deal with another day
Speaker 1: of conversation about it because someone's going to ask Rod
Speaker 1: Mayo about what Bill Belichick said. And Delicious in New England.
Speaker 1: Finally in the News, they flexed the Colts Vikings game
Speaker 1: into Sunday Night Football Week nine. I love a good
Speaker 1: Sunday Night flex. Feel like we haven't really had many
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Jags Eagles. Doug Peterson's revenge
Speaker 1: game is out, so thank you for getting the Jaguars
Speaker 1: out of primetime.
Speaker 3: Good job, And there's nothing better than talking about a
Speaker 3: flex and then just flexing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's worth the price of admission for the
Speaker 1: YouTube subscribers right there seeing Nick's guns. Remember when they
Speaker 1: didn't have flex, we would just be watching the Jaguars
Speaker 1: in primetime.
Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully Anthony Rigison plays better than did last week,
Speaker 3: though I'm gonna need that for that.
Speaker 1: You know what, I like a little. I like some
Speaker 1: different teams in primetime. The Colts are like never in primetime.
Speaker 1: They're never on Sunday Night football. The Vikings are a
Speaker 1: good watch. I'm into that game. Let's have some Sunday
Speaker 1: night diversity. Kind of about another flex. Just note, I
Speaker 1: noticed they took Bengals Eagles out of the four to
Speaker 1: twenty five National Game this week and put in Commanders Bears.
Speaker 1: How's that if you had told me that before the
Speaker 1: start of the season. And it's not like the Bengals
Speaker 1: and Eagles have fallen off a cliff, But that's interesting
Speaker 1: you took the Bengals and Eagles. No, you're not good
Speaker 1: enough for our spot, your old news Joe Burrow and
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 2: We're going with the new stuff.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota and Caleb Williams Now I hope, no, I
Speaker 1: hope it's.
Speaker 3: Jis the year of the Commanders as long as Jane
Speaker 3: Daniels is involved. Fingers crossed Network executives the Jayden Daniels plays.
Speaker 1: All right, we wrap up every Monday night football recap
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Speaker 3: All right, Captain's Corner. We've talked about him a lot indirectly,
Speaker 3: even though they didn't play today, they played yesterday. Marcus Mariota,
Speaker 3: you are the main my Captain's Corner this week eighteen
Speaker 3: for twenty three two and five yards two touchdowns in
Speaker 3: relief of Jaden Daniels. That offense didn't miss a beat
Speaker 3: without their rookie sensation quarterback. You handled the job well
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Speaker 3: I love that choice. He really did look good.
Speaker 1: Not I was just I know it was against Carolina,
Speaker 1: but they were throws down the field.
Speaker 2: They were accurate.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think of our friend Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: you know who we lost a few years ago to cancer,
Speaker 1: and his unflagging belief that Marcus Mariota could have some
Speaker 1: Joe Montana like traits to his game is accuracy, his footwork.
Speaker 1: He loved a young Marcus Mariota. I wouldn't say unflagging,
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Speaker 1: up somewhat eventually, But that was the Marcus Mariota of
Speaker 1: our dreams, of Wes's dreams, and what a performance by him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Saquon Barkley obviously. You know, he
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Speaker 1: gets it because of the audio that the Eagles released
Speaker 1: on Monday of Nick Sirianni going over to him on
Speaker 1: the bench and repeatedly asking Saquon if he wanted to
Speaker 1: break his career rushing record, and I think he only
Speaker 1: needed well eleven more yards or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that, like, hey, I want to help you
Speaker 1: get this if you want to get it, and Saquon
Speaker 1: putting him off. And it was that thing where you
Speaker 1: bring something up to a friend and you're not sure
Speaker 1: if they're just putting you off just to say that,
Speaker 1: so you go back to them again the second time
Speaker 1: to give him another chance to say yes, and like
Speaker 1: Sekon was like, no, let the young kids play like
Speaker 1: the game's over. I want to I want I want
Speaker 1: the young kids to eat. And that was really cool
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what listening to Sirianni double back and saying,
Speaker 3: by the way, just to be clear, I want you
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Speaker 3: young kids eat. First off, demonstration of humility and also
Speaker 3: a demonstration of not being greedy and taking chances and
Speaker 3: risks in the game you don't need to take. So
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