1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Mile two. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Kind of exact slip eat. 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: Falcons fans. What's up? Welcome to another Falcons final whistle. 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: I'm your host, Will McFadden that I am joined by 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: Tory mclaney and we have a very different show than 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: the one we had this time. Last week, the Atlanta 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: Falcons dropped a road game to the Carolina Panthers they 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: are owing to in the division. They lost thirty to nothing. 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: It was not a great showing at all in kind 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: of all phases of the game for Atlanta. Tory, do 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: you have any just kind of like overarching thoughts for 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: this one before we get into the first quarter. 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that for me, it's gonna be really 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: hard to break down this game in a way that 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: is even I think remotely digestible for fans, because I 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: don't know how you can talk about a thirty to 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: zero game against an zero and two team in your 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: division and not kind of want to like blow the 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: roof off of everything in terms of your own anger 20 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: about it. So I'm trying, like really hard to see 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: perspective but also understand how the perspective and reality is 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: is that you just lost thirty to nothing too. An 23 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: NFC South opponent that had two losses. Like, I don't know, 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna be able to sugarcoat this thing. 25 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: Well, I have been colored as the optimist on this podcast, 26 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: but I don't know sugar either. 27 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: We'll continue to do the do those roles where I'm 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: the like the pessimist and you're the optimist. 29 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know how you how you've spinned this one. 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: I really don't. 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure people will expect me to try my best, 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: and so that's what I'll i'm sure ultimately end up doing. 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: But as a quick reminder for anybody who is new 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 3: to this year's show, we've got four quarters. We have 35 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 3: six minutes for each quarter. Once the quarter is over, 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: we will hear a nice friendly whistle letting us know 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: that it is time to move on to the second quarter. 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: So Tory right up top. We're going to get into 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: the first quarter and talk a little bit about the offense. 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: You know, I think overall, when you put zero points 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: on the board, you got a lot of question marks 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. What's the number one 43 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: thing that you kind of identified offensively today? That was 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: an issue. 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: So I don't think that you can talk about this 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: game in a vacuum, you have to talk about what 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: the offense has or Betty, you yet not. 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Have, like what they have not done, but they lack 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: what they lack in. 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Three full games of what we have seen from this offense. 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, in week one there was like, okay, a 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: lack of explosives and you're like, okay, it's week one. 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: You're getting the jitters out, you're knocking the rust off. 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: Then week two it's like, well, you made it to 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: the red zone and you were moving the ball really well, 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: but you couldn't punch it in, so like, okay, next step, 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: like being able to punch the ball into then zone. 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: But then in week three against this particular alert, this 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: particular Carolina Panthers defense, you didn't even get. 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: To the red zone at all. 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: You never even gave yourself a chance inside the twenties. 63 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: And I think like there were a lot of miscues. 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: There were some procedural stuff that very early on it 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: was very worrisome. And then you have Michael Pennix not 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: being able to connect on very many of his throws 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: at all. 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: You had some dropped passes. 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: The Falcons couldn't consistently move the ball at all, like 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: it was there was no one thing that I'm sitting 71 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: here today being like, yeah, it was this one thing, 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: and if they fixed this one thing, it means that 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: they're going to score points. Like the reality of the 74 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: situation is the Falcons have spent the last eight quarters 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of football and only gotten into the end zone one time. 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: And in this level of professional football, like, you can't 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: win games. That's not sustainable, that's not something that's not 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: an operation for success. And then on top of that, 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the fact that games into this thing and a there 80 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: is no Falcons tight end or receiver that has had 81 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: a passing touchdown a receiving touchdown. We're three games in, 82 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Like that to me is indicative of how far this 83 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: offense has yet to go. 84 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a great point, and you know, 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: it's easy to point to. I think some of the 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: like miscues early on in this game, the headset kind 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: of going in and out, having to call a time out, 88 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: or getting into lay of game after a timeout, things 89 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: like that, and those definitely need to be cleaned up. However, 90 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: I like I kind of look at more just the 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: overall flow of this offense and kind of the overall 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: how are we attacking teams right? Because this was once 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: again a defense that really I think kept a second 94 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: safety back. They were not pressuring Michael Pennix, they were 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: not trying to get the ball out of his hand quickly. 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: They were content to say, all right, let's see what 97 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: you got, number nine, Let's have you dice us up. 98 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: And by and large, he kind of turned down a 99 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: lot of those downfield opportunities and just kind of settled 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: for what was easy. And on top of that, when 101 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: the Vikings did a similar approach, the Falcons seemed very 102 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: content to just say, Okay, we're going to hand it 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: off to beajon to Tyler, We're going to run the 104 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: ball down your throats. And you know, I feel like 105 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: Atlanta had some success running the ball today. They just 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: didn't make it the core part of their game plan 107 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: the way that I was kind of expecting them too. 108 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: And I was just a little bit surprised that Michael 109 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: Penix would have he throw like thirty eight times in 110 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: this game. That's that's a lot of attempts for what 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: was a game that a lot of people I felt 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: like coming into it was hey, go handle your business. 113 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: Do you do best Go beat a team in the 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: division on the road, a team that you feel like 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: on paper you're better than, and get out of there. 116 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: And there were just a little bit of confusing moments. 117 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: I think offensively, yeah, I think. 118 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: So too, And I think to your point about like, Okay, 119 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: you threw the ball a lot, and I think the 120 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Falcons actually came into this game wanting to push the 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 1: ball downfield. I think that even in this first couple 122 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: of drives, like seeing kind of the play calls and 123 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: it really was like a okay, like teams have been 124 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: taking this away from us, like we're gonna just shoot 125 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: the ball down. 126 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: Getting Darnell involved seem like a big priority. 127 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had cow pits targeted very early. You had 128 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Drakelin and Darnell Mooney, Like there were a lot they 129 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: were trying. 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: To push the ball downfield. 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: And in the first couple of series, Michael Panix was 132 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: not connecting on some of these passes, and at that 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: point in time, I was like, it's okay, I see 134 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, Like he'll start connecting on 135 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: some of these eventually, like it'll be fine. And then 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: that never manifested that never came around. It was like 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: that never. It was almost like he never got comfortable 138 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: within the flow of what he was even needing to 139 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: operate within. And I think like that was again the 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: word that I'm using is worrisome, Like what we saw 141 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: today was worrisome in the context of this game and 142 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: also in the context of kind of the lack of 143 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: production that we've seen over the first three weeks of 144 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: this season. 145 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, But in a play Devil's advocate, and here comes 146 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: the optimist in me, is sometimes I feel like a 147 00:07:54,320 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: full blown thirty to nothing defeat may help identify a 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 3: clearer error than maybe a twenty eight twenty seven loss. Right, 149 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: if you're able to look at this and be like, 150 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: oh man, why is my computer key not tapping the 151 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: PA button when I hit it? And then you look 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: over and your actual computer itself is on fire, You're like, 153 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: maybe it's not a keyboard that's broken. Maybe there's something 154 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: else that's over here that's an issue. So a thirty 155 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: to nothing defeat maybe helps them identify something moving forward, 156 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of season left to go. That's 157 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: our whistle. Let's move on to the second quarter, and 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 3: let's talk a little bit more about the quarterback play 159 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: for Atlanta today, we did see Michael Pennix get pulled 160 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: for Kirk Cousins Tory. What did Raheem have to say 161 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: after the game about that decision. 162 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he basically said that the game was out 163 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: of hand and it was the same reason that you 164 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: saw Jon Robinson Tyler Algier be pulled for Nathan Carter, 165 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: Like there was no reason at that point in time, 166 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: with ten minutes left in the fourth quarter that the 167 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Falcons were going to make a comeback. 168 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: That it just wasn't statistically possible. 169 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: So at that point, it's like, okay, close up shop, 170 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: move forward, don't get anybody hurt, Hope for the best 171 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: next week. And then but then, of course, because of 172 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the play of Michael PENNOCKX and the inconsistency of it 173 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: and the misses that he had, and you know, the 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: miscues within the operation itself, like then of course I 175 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: think that there's this overwhelming then conversation about like okay, 176 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: like well what does this mean? Like I saw a 177 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: lot of people being saying on Twitter or social media 178 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: that Michael Pennix was benched for Kirk Cousins, and that's 179 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: not the language here, like, that's not what happened here. 180 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: And then after the game, of course, Draheim Morris is asked, 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: so it does Kirk, Does this mean that Kirk Cousins 182 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: is going to have the chance to compete for the 183 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: starting job? And he flat out emphatically said no, with 184 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: no rebuttal no, just no period, full sentence no. So 185 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of where they are right now. Like I 186 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: never even thought within the context of Kirk Cousins coming 187 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: out to finish that game, there was no thought in 188 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: my mind that the Falcons were thinking about moving back 189 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: to Kirk Cousins. Like I think that we've been in 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: such this carousel of quarterbacks over the last few years 191 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: that the like you've kind of fallen into this place 192 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: of like, oh, well X plus Y must equal Z, 193 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: but like in this situation, that's not what happened, Like 194 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: X plus why does not equal Z? Like you're going 195 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: back to X, You're going back to Michael Panix like that. 196 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: So for all of the fans out there, like, for 197 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: as not good as it was, I don't think that 198 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: it's indicative of the Falcons now having this quarterback conversation, 199 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: which again, of course, ever since the Falcons decided that 200 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousin was going to be Michael Pennis backup. I 201 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: knew that this was going to come up as soon 202 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: as Michael Penis had a game where he wasn't at 203 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: his best. 204 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that we were going. 205 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: To have to be talking about Kirk Cousins and potentially 206 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: what the Falcons are going to do there. 207 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: Right now, it is Michael Panicck's job and that's not changing. 208 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: I think it's a great example of kind of like 209 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: in all of our lives, we can say, like, hey, 210 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: instant gratification doesn't always lead to the long term best. 211 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: You got to sometimes pull like one foot in front 212 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: of the other and move forward and move forward and 213 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: sometimes take a step back, but then you keep moving 214 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: forward and you learn from it. This is a growing 215 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: pain game, I think for Michael PENNOCKX right, and there 216 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: was always going to be moments like this. Maybe he 217 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: didn't think it was going to be a thirty and 218 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: other thing loss that ends up with you finishing the 219 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: game on the bench, but there were always going to 220 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: be some moments where there were stretches where you said, hey, 221 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: all right, it's a young quarterback and we have not 222 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: seen the final products yet from Michael Pennox Junior, but 223 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: a game like this hopefully helps get him there and 224 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: provides him with a lot of lessons in the NFL 225 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: about how to play this game. And I appreciate the 226 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: fact that the coaching staff is probably going to write 227 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: those lessons hard this week and then give him another 228 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: shot out there, because that's kind of what development is, 229 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: is a growth through obstacles and hardship, and that's kind 230 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: of where they are here. But what's really interesting to 231 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: me is is more his approach in this game. He 232 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: wasn't taking the shots down field. When we did the 233 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Friday five and talked about our confidence level, I gave 234 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: the passing game of four and my reason was I 235 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: have all the faith in the world for Michael Pennix 236 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: to push the ball down field. We've seen him do 237 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: that time and time again. What he showed me in 238 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: the first couple of games was the ability to kind 239 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: of spread it around in the intermediate game. In the 240 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: short game today though it felt like he was very 241 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: quickly just going to the backfield and his outlet passes. 242 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what's I mean? 243 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: This is a good thought provoking question because it's like 244 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: the Michael Pennocks that we saw in the last three 245 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: games last year, in his three starts in twenty twenty. 246 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: Four, he was letting it fly, was let it rip. 247 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: It was letting it rip. 248 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: And I feel like in twenty twenty five, the first 249 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: three games, we're seeing a bit more of a timid approach. 250 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's play calling. I don't 251 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: know if that is what defenses are taking away. It 252 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: may be a combination of both of those. And but 253 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: the thing is is, like we haven't seen I think 254 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: what Michael Pennox's bread and butter is, and it's this 255 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: gunslinger Like that's that if you're gonna come up with 256 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: a word to encompass who Michael Pennock Junior is. He's 257 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: a gunslinger and he just has this like unreal confidence 258 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: in his arm strength. I think back to the Cadero 259 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: Hodge pass last year against Carolina in Week eighteen, like 260 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: we haven't seen that. We haven't seen the Kyle Pitts 261 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: fourth down against the Washington Commanders. 262 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: We haven't seen that. 263 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Or we haven't seen going back to back to Drake 264 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: over his back shoulder in the end zone twice, Like 265 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: we haven't seen those throws, And I don't know what 266 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: is missing from those three starts that Michael had in 267 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four to these now three starts that he's had. 268 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five. 269 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: And I do think it's a it's a bit of 270 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: a microcosm of the issues that the Falcons are having offensively. 271 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got somebody who you want to kind of 272 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: build a downfield attack around. And I think maybe the 273 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: second interception was a moment where yeah, he's trying to 274 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: rip it comeback like twenty yards down the field. But again, 275 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: it just it just kind of felt like a little 276 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: bit of an off game from number nine, and we 277 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: will hope he gets it corrected. That's our second quarter whistle, 278 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and kind of do a quick 279 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: halftime break and talk about an awesome stat brought to 280 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: us by our sponsor, Microsoft co Pilot Toy. The Falcons 281 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: blitzed Bryce Young seventeen times in today's game, which was 282 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: sixty three percent of the rate for their defense, and 283 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: he was pretty effective against them. He was nine to 284 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: fourteen seventy two yards seven times pressured on the blitzes there. 285 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: But coming into this game, he had two hundred and 286 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: seventy yards on passes under ten air yards and four touchdowns. 287 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: Those four touchdowns were tied for the most in the NFL. 288 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: So it was a little bit of a curious, I 289 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: think approach to maybe blitz him and get the ball 290 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: out of his hands quickly, because that is coming into 291 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: this game what he did so well, really quickly. Do 292 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: you have any thoughts on kind of the defensive performance. 293 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: We're not going to touch on it a lot in 294 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: this episode, but really quickly here. 295 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 296 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that I understood a bit of 297 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: what the defense was trying to do, and I'll give 298 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: credit where credit is due. 299 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: I thought the defense didn't. 300 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Deserve to come out of that game having lost thirty 301 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: to zero. Like in reality for me, I say that 302 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: they gave up one touchdown like they in my brain, 303 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: they gave up one touchdown on that opening drive for Carolina, 304 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: like every other that was scored was either a field goal, 305 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: it was a pick six, and then it was kind 306 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: of a junk yard in the like garbage time put 307 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: away touchdown when your you know, your back is kind 308 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: of broken at that point. Like, so this loss, this performance, 309 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: this thirty to nothing score, I think it was an 310 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: indicative of this, this defensive performance and even and you 311 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: know they were getting off the field on third down, 312 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: like outside of those two long drive the first one 313 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: and then the one towards the end of the game, 314 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: like they were getting off the field. 315 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: They were giving the offensive chance. 316 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: No special teams outside of the kicking game was giving 317 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: the offense a chance, and it just never they never 318 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: did anything with those opportunities. 319 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: Completely agree. So seventeen blitz is one sack on the day. 320 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: Seven pressures Moving right along that halftime was brought to 321 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: you by Microsoft co Pilot third quarter Toy. Once you 322 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: see the fans reaction to this game, be I know, 323 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: I know you got a lot of replies. 324 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: They were pissed, like and that's being completely honest and 325 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: completely real, Like I don't think there's any way around it. Again, 326 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Like I you got shut out for the first time 327 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: in a decade on the road, and the last time 328 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: this happened was in Week eleven of the twenty fifteen 329 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: season against the Carolina Panthers. Like that in and of itself, 330 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: I especially coupled with the fact that the Falcons have 331 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: had such like starts and stops with this offense over 332 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: the last three games. 333 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: That it's really difficult. 334 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: I think until the offense shows something different, shows that 335 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: there is life within it, I don't know how much 336 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: this fan base is going to be on board because 337 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: for the last however many years, since the years of 338 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: the Matt Julio Calvin offense that was so high powered 339 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: that took the team to a Super Bowl in twenty sixteen, 340 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Like since that time, it I go back to the 341 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: quarterback carousel and the starts and the stops in the 342 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: run game being exciting and fun, but then also the 343 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: past game and the quarterbacks and you're switching a quarterback 344 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: every you know, half of a year, and it's just 345 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: like you can never buy in too much. And that 346 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: is a really tough place I think for fans to 347 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: be in. And right now the Falcons it's kind of 348 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: up to the Falcons offense to say, hey, you can 349 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: put your your hope and your trust in us in 350 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: what we're doing. Like when we say we're going to 351 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: be an explosive, high powered offense, like we're going to 352 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: show you that's who we are. And I think so 353 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: far we haven't seen that. And we've seen of course, 354 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: like we've seen bajon be bajonde. Yeah, but outside of that, 355 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: what have we seen? And the stats are what they are, 356 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: The red zone appearances are what they are. This game 357 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: against the Carolina Panthers was what it was. So until 358 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: we see something different, there's just like not a lot 359 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: to feel really confident about. And that's harsh, that's a 360 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: really harsh thing to say, but like, I don't have 361 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: anything else to go off of. 362 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the offense at this point needs a game like 363 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: the defense had in Minnesota, I think to kind of 364 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 3: win some fans back. And I don't know what that 365 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: looks like. I don't know if it's Michael Pennock's throwing 366 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: for four hundred yards and four touchdowns. I don't know 367 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: if it's Jon and Tyler combining for three hundred yards 368 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: on the ground three touchdowns, like any of the above 369 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: I think would fit. 370 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: So what's interesting, too, is in the locker room, Drake 371 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: London says, you know, it was not good all around, 372 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: and the quote was like, this is not the standard 373 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: of kind of who we are. Well show us what 374 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: that standard is, because right now I don't know what 375 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: the standard is. I know what you've told me the 376 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: standard is. I know what the goal is, but this 377 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: the goal and the standard are these two things that 378 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: you've told me about but haven't shown me. And I mean, 379 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: it's hard to win games in the NFL, like it 380 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: really is, absolutely And you know, like I'm sympathetic that 381 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: anyone can go out on any given Sunday and beat 382 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: whoever the freak they want to be, Like, that's just 383 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: how the NFL is wired right now. But even in 384 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: saying that, like you should also score points. You have 385 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: an offense that has how many first round picks? Like, 386 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: and to put up zero points against the Carolina Panthers 387 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: is just a bit It's a bit mind boggling to me. 388 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: I feel like Jake Matthews always gets kind of left 389 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: out that first round pick conversation. I'm sorry, it was 390 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: just a brain a brain danger, but you were like 391 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: how many first round picks and go through them? And 392 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: I was like, don't forget Jake. 393 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: Yeah you have Jake, you have Chris, you used to 394 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: have Caleb, you have Bejon Drake, Michael Kile Like you 395 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: how that's over half of your Yeah, it's over half 396 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: of your offense. 397 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: Do you remember in I think it was twenty twenty 398 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: when we had that like every pit or every all 399 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: eleven starters were first round picks for the the offen 400 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: Any of this is such a side tangent back to 401 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: the main point I do. I had right here. The 402 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: first note that I wrote down was, this is a 403 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: reminder of how quickly this league can humble you. Yea, right, 404 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: because this it like that twenty fifteen Panthers team was 405 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: undefeated at the time that they beat the Falcons, Right, Yeah, 406 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: this Panthers team was defeated by the time they came in. 407 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: So if you are and I don't think the team 408 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: at all was you know, celebrating or riding high after 409 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: last week's win to the point that they weren't focused 410 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: on this game, right. I asked Chris Lindstrom in the 411 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: locker room afterwards, did you see this coming based on 412 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: your week of preparation? He was like, no, we were 413 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: on point, We were locked in. Like so, so I 414 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: do think that the fans, though we're kind of coming 415 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: into this one riding a little bit a little bit high, 416 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: and in the NFL, any team is good enough to 417 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: beat any other team. 418 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, But the thing is is, like you want your 419 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: fan base to be riding. 420 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: You do you do? 421 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: Right? 422 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I don't. I'm not blaming the fans at all. 423 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 3: I'm just kind of saying that I feel like this 424 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: loss feels such like a three sixty or one eight. 425 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: I always say three sixty, but it feels like such 426 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: a one to eighty when in reality, like we should 427 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 3: have just been a division game. They're coming for us. 428 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: It's it's their home opener, X, Y and Z, so 429 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: maybe you know, again, like they didn't overlook them. But 430 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: this is also a reminder that that the league does 431 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: some crazy things at times. 432 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 433 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's like the surprise, Like even Bejon 434 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: Robinson was like, yeah, I'm surprised they didn't expect us 435 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: to lose thirty to nothing. 436 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: Today, right, Yeah, that's the bigger thing is is more 437 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: the the way the outcome happened. Yeah, in the outcome, 438 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: you always expect to win or lose, right, Like this 439 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: is the NFL. Everybody has those great players, but thirty 440 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: to nothing is something to fix. Fourth quarter toy, where 441 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: do the Falcons go from here? 442 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: Like? 443 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 3: How do they move forward from this? Because it just 444 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: counts as one loss? 445 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: Ye, but it's a big one. 446 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: It's a big one. 447 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that The one thing that I kind 448 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: of hold on to is like, how out the gate 449 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: of the NFC South race Last year the Falcons were, 450 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, like they they beat Tampa Bay twice, like 451 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: they they were just on an absolute tear in the 452 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: NFC South and then they ultimately don't win the division 453 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. So like, even though 454 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: you've lost two in your division, your two losses on 455 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: the year came in your division. Like I don't I 456 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's over. No, Like I think it's far 457 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: from over. Like there is this age, like the old adage, 458 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: and everyone freaking says it all the time. Sometimes I'm like, oh, 459 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: because it sometimes aggravates me so much. It's just like, Okay, yes, 460 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: it is just one game, and there's a long season ahead, 461 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: and you know we got however many more weeks of 462 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: this and all of that is true, But you can 463 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: only say that up to a point. Like, once you 464 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: get to a point, none of that matters anymore because 465 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: you've you've lost too many games. But I don't think 466 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: the Falcons. The Falcons are not to that point yet. 467 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: So while things do look bleak at this point in time, 468 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: I think if you can go into this Washington Commander's 469 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: game coming up next week next Sunday, I do, and 470 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: you can kind of come out either. I don't even 471 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: think you have to win that game. I think you 472 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: just need to have a much better performance, like you 473 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: just need to be in step with the Washington Commanders 474 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: that you can at least go into the bye week 475 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: feeling a bit better about your situation. However, I will say, well, 476 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: freaking better if you could go into the bye week 477 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: get two and two knowing that you have the Buffalo 478 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: Bills coming out of the bye week and the San 479 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. 480 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would very much like to win, and you 481 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: feel so much better personally. Yeah, it's I kind of 482 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 3: just feel like the way that the Falcons respond next 483 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: week is going to say as much, if not more 484 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: than this game, right because it is still early in 485 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 3: the season, and when you get punched in the mouth, right, like, 486 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: that's when you kind of find what your resolve is, 487 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: what you're made of. And hopefully this is a galvanizing 488 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 3: moment for this Atlanta Falcons team that has a lot 489 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: of young players that have probably been through or are 490 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: going through this for like the first time. I mean, 491 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: how many times you think John Robinson has lost thirty 492 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: to nothing in his life? 493 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? No, And I think that. 494 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: And I want to read this quote from Jon because 495 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: I think it's encompassing kind of everything that we're talking 496 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: about here that he says, I believe this game and 497 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: either break a team or make a team. And for us, 498 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: this needs to make the team. We need to come 499 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: in tomorrow. We need to watch this game. We all 500 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: need to feel to hurt the same way. This is 501 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: a division game at that so it needs to hurt 502 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: even more for us, this loss right here when people 503 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: look back at it, this needs to be the weak 504 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: where we come together and it changed everything so we 505 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: can become the team that we want to become. Like 506 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: that is so eloquently said, and that is the exact 507 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: mindset that you have to have coming out of a 508 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: game that was as I think de moralizing as this 509 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: one was. 510 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: And again demoralizing is. 511 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: A very very strong word, but it's the right word. 512 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: You can't talk about a shut out like this and 513 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: not kind of talk about it at the level of 514 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: what it should. 515 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Be talked about. 516 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: It. 517 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: It was such a good quote that frankly, I'm a 518 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: little concerned that Bijan is coming from my job because 519 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: he's so succinctly I think put the game into context 520 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 3: and how you move forward from this? And it is 521 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: up to the Falcons to write the story of this season, 522 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: right Like that was kind of their mindset in training 523 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: camp in the offseason. We're not gonna talk it, We're 524 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: gonna walk it. And today you didn't walk it. So 525 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: how do you respond from this? And you got a 526 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: great team that was in the playoffs last year on deck, 527 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: go out there and put it to them the way 528 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers kind of just did to you. So 529 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 3: really like the evolution. I know that the first couple 530 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 3: of games of the season can be misnomers and they 531 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: can be a little bit of fool's gold. Here do 532 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: you buy and where do you need to see the 533 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: Falcons evolve? To feel like this is a little bit 534 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: of a fool's gold game. 535 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: Offensively, you've got to score touchdowns, Like I mean, that's. 536 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not really saying anything that's like 537 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: rocket signs. 538 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: I'm not about like the x's and o's. 539 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not really getting into much of anything at all, 540 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: Like I feel like, but the reason for that is 541 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, like put a 542 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: put good on good and go at it and win 543 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: your win your reps like and go punch the ball 544 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: in the end zone. Like, you can't win games consistently 545 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: in this league if you do not score. Like even 546 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Zach Robinson said it himself last week talking about not 547 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: getting in the end zone last week against Minnesota, and 548 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: he said, like, that's not winning football games. You aren't scoring, 549 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: You're not winning football games. You can squeak out a 550 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: few here and there, but you're not winning. And like 551 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: that's what happened today, and it's what happened against Carolina Panthers, 552 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: And like you won't be sitting here with a win 553 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: in your back pocket against some of these really really 554 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: good teams, really good defenses and offenses in this league 555 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: if you're not scoring points. 556 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm exascer. 557 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: You. 558 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: You've gotta you gotta be able to keep pace in 559 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: this league for sure. That's our our fourth and final whistle. 560 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for listening to uh today's podcast. 561 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: I know it wasn't a great one. It certainly was 562 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: not a great game. Actually, let's toy we're gonna take 563 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: a five second moment of silence to let everybody just 564 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: sit in their feelings for a second, and then we're 565 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna flush this and we're gonna turn the 566 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: page and we're gonna move on. All right, ready, Ready, 567 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: let's go. Man. That felt good. All right, that game 568 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: it's in the past, it's in the rear view. We're 569 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: on to Washington. Thank you guys so much for listening 570 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: to today's Talkins Final whistle. Thank you Toy for joining me. 571 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: Thank you to our producer Jared for his work on 572 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: this episode. Hopefully we are talking to you guys next 573 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: week about a better and different outcome. But until then, 574 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: the Falcon's got a week of work ahead. They've got 575 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: some improvements to make, and we will discuss the outcome 576 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: of that work in one week. So for Tory mclaney 577 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: I and Will McFadden, we will see you all next time.