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Speaker 3: come on, come on, Jonas, Come on.

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Speaker 5: How we feel this morning?

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Speaker 6: Huh?

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Speaker 5: How we feel?

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Speaker 6: How are you feeling, Jonas?

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Speaker 5: I'm good?

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Speaker 6: Are you tired of?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I traveled all day yesterday too many delayed all day,

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Speaker 3: but made it all day, man, literally, but I did

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Speaker 3: make it.

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Speaker 5: You're in the burg.

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Speaker 3: I'm in State College.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, you're going here.

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Speaker 6: You're staying the burg, all right.

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Speaker 3: So when they announced that I was doing the college,

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to say the name because you know,

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Speaker 3: talking about my you know my.

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm not like that.

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Speaker 3: All right. Well, they're taking care of my room.

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Speaker 6: Which i'd hope they would, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're taking care of Mara.

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Speaker 6: See it all worked out, man, it works awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would no Motel six. I'm gonna say the

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Speaker 3: Burg would have probably been more fun today and tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: But in State College.

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Speaker 3: Being in state college is good.

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Speaker 5: You're doing game day.

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Speaker 6: He's a guest picker.

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Speaker 3: I'm a guest picker.

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Speaker 6: Did you miss that? Last night? We were on a

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Speaker 6: text chain together, Jonas.

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Speaker 3: I think he's being funny right now.

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Speaker 7: What's doing I see? I can't tell because honestly, he'll

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Speaker 7: be like, dude, I'm just so busy. I'm just I've

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Speaker 7: got so many things going on.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing? I had to throw the ball,

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Speaker 3: the baseball than the football. Then we need to do

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Speaker 3: batting practice. Then we like sound just like that?

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Speaker 7: Should I give you a piece of advice that at

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Speaker 7: all seriousness from two guys who have a like just

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Speaker 7: a bud of kids.

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Speaker 6: You can't play that card with us. You just you

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Speaker 6: can't play You really can't the all busy card. You're

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Speaker 6: not that busy, trust me, you're not.

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Speaker 7: You're not that busy until until you get to having

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Speaker 7: more than two you can then start to talk.

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Speaker 6: You don't even have to do yet, So you can't

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Speaker 6: use that card with us.

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Speaker 7: That It is the most My wife talks about the

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Speaker 7: sometimes too, where there are people they are like, oh

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Speaker 7: I'm so busy, Like oh yeah, you're busy. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 7: Like there's no there's no legitimacy to what you say.

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Speaker 5: Well, sorry, first of all, what does that.

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Speaker 3: Have to do? First of all?

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Speaker 6: What First of all, what.

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Speaker 5: Does that have to do with LeVar Arrington going on.

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Speaker 3: Another Don't try to don't try to ship it.

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Speaker 4: That's what you did, because that's what the original. That's

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Speaker 4: what the original conversation was.

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Speaker 3: Because you're acting you're acting like you're unaware of the news,

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Speaker 3: when it.

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Speaker 6: Was because you missed it a group text.

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Speaker 4: I'm the one who sent it to you guys on

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Speaker 4: the group text. I'm aware I sent it to you,

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Speaker 4: don't that guy.

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Speaker 3: I had to smoke you out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, smoke this then.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, if Game Day, if Game

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Speaker 4: Day went to Vampire State, I would not appear if

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Speaker 5: I don't care what it is. I got loyalty, loyalty

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Speaker 5: to Big News.

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Speaker 6: We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 7: By the way, we always said Jonah would be like Deuce,

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Speaker 7: I'm out, sorry, bitches.

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Speaker 3: Jonas would be out. That's why I'd be trying with

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Speaker 3: the challenge every year. He'd be trying to get Fox

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Speaker 3: or somebody to notice him doing TV.

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Speaker 5: No, that's yet.

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Speaker 6: Let me you something.

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Speaker 5: It's still a challenge.

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Speaker 3: That show has not worked to what Q or what

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Speaker 3: what Jonahs wanted as his advantage of getting ahead and

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Speaker 3: the work.

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Speaker 5: For to I just work, man, Just a busy gather works.

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Speaker 5: That's it. That's all I do. All right, that's all

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Speaker 5: I'm about.

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Speaker 6: We'll think about something that works. Seahawks still work, even

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Speaker 6: though that second half got a little dicey for him.

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Speaker 4: I still am not convinced that they're legitimate contenders.

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Speaker 5: But they are.

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Speaker 4: Way better than I expected them to be. Like I

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Speaker 4: And yeah, the second half got a little bit sketchy there,

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Speaker 4: but way better than I thought they'd be.

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Speaker 5: And Sam, I mean our fool's goal.

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Speaker 6: Well didn't you pick it?

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Speaker 3: The wind that I can't believe I picked them. I

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Speaker 3: can't believe I picked.

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Speaker 1: Them sticks picks.

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Speaker 6: Fools goal but sor right?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: You know what I can't what how good? How good

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Speaker 6: Vegas is with prop bets?

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Speaker 7: For example, I believe Donald's like over under in passing

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Speaker 7: yards was two forty four or yesterday when we were

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Speaker 7: doing more or less, I kept looking at all these

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Speaker 6: Did any of ours it? Did any of our picks

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kyler Murray over rushing yards? I think it was

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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, you go gat good for you.

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Speaker 4: I mean it needed a big scramble in the second

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Speaker 3: Mad it. He got it.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, LeVar, we talked you into Marvin

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Speaker 5: Harrison Junior over to score over a half touchdown.

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Speaker 6: He did it.

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Speaker 5: Big win.

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Speaker 6: He did it.

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Speaker 7: There you go, big win. So I guess I'm able

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Speaker 7: to lose it. Trey Betson really didn't step up for

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: I actually think that Brady said something yesterday because I've

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Speaker 4: normally I'm the one who makes the best points, but

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Speaker 4: should be farther along than they are. And I'm watching it, going, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's that's like sums it up. Like Kyler Murray's on

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Speaker 4: his second coach, he's already been paid. Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 4: is there. It just feels like, whether it's the fool's.

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Speaker 3: Gold they hit their ceiling.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what, and I don't know if the

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Speaker 3: A high ceiling. It was not high, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know that it is a damn shame y'all hit y'all

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Speaker 3: got dang ceiling and it wasn't It was as tall

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Speaker 3: as Kyler mur it was. It was a job, a

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Speaker 3: whole lot of people that won't be able to stretch out.

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Speaker 3: It's not a high enough ceiling. It was.

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Speaker 5: It was a jockeys dressing room. That was their ceiling.

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Speaker 3: They got it. They got to crawl into their space.

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Speaker 3: That is not a high ceiling.

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Speaker 4: And and I'm wondering now that we think about it.

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Speaker 4: You remember that playoff game. They had their only playoff game

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Speaker 4: I just I'm wondering, was that it.

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Speaker 7: Can they get back to the playoffs? Like it's a

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Speaker 7: valid question. The imagine that ownership group wanting to blow

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Speaker 7: next year. Who is servant was Hopkins DeAndre six games suspension?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh god, he was on the gap.

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Speaker 6: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 7: And then then they got off to a bad start,

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Speaker 6: Right, let's blow this whole thing up. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: all right, well, I guess we're just gonna throw the towel.

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Speaker 6: They got blown up and they haven't recovered since.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just I don't know. I got to see

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Speaker 6: They don't have internet out there.

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Speaker 3: No, they had internet on the plane, but you know

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought you were making the Amige country in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 7: You're like, yeah, we went through. They didn't have any

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Speaker 7: they didn't have any internet.

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Speaker 3: No, I was on the plane.

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Speaker 6: You do know Penn State is surrounded by Amish country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shippings Burg craftsmanship, what else? We went through

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Speaker 6: We did this, but I don't ever see them show

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Speaker 6: up for Penn State caps.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't under I mean and why.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you would think that they would because it's.

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Speaker 7: We are they don't say Penn State.

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Speaker 3: But there's no technology needed. I mean, I've never seen

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Speaker 3: no no horse carts or buggies parked, you know, in

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Speaker 3: the in the park. I bet you they have the

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Speaker 3: best tail games. They'd be having some shock.

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Speaker 7: Jonas doesn't punched out of this group of people because

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Speaker 7: they can't.

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Speaker 4: Hear us, so, oh well, yeah, they're irrelevant to me,

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Speaker 4: like I don't even and actually they don't know no more.

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Speaker 3: I'm around Jonas, I feel like Jona missus Amish And

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Speaker 3: that might be why he's not he's not taking any

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Speaker 3: shots at him. You do radio.

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Speaker 5: First of all.

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Speaker 6: First, First of all, I bet you could put together

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Speaker 4: First of all, the Amish. The Amish would be the

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Speaker 4: only people impressed by my truck.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 4: That's the only group that would look at my truck

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Speaker 4: and go, you know what is that from outer space?

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Speaker 5: No, it's two thousand.

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Speaker 3: They might actually open the gerbils power.

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Speaker 3: Little goat, Paul, the little goat hoofs on the ground.

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Speaker 5: Who's my mechanic, Richard Gear? But grow up. The point

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Speaker 6: Just can't happen. Like it can't happen.

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Speaker 7: What's astonishing is it never happened for mar Harrison Junior

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Speaker 6: For over one hundred yards every single game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a uh, it's a rough go last night

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Speaker 7: It's like, all right, it's not like this it's a

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's not an easy spot to be in.

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Speaker 7: Like I think everyone understood he was trying to kick

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Speaker 6: But then he kicks it too short. You know. It's

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Speaker 4: Fair way to put kickers in? Yeah, well the plays

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Andrew jack is, what's what's he up to?

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Speaker 5: No? No, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean if you think I'm pissing hot the way I looked,

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Speaker 5: The problem is LeVar was doing You only look to

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Speaker 3: You know that's what the other daughter looked like. IM

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Speaker 5: It's all about first impressions? And no, no, what do

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Speaker 4: going to be in Europe again this weekend. We've got

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Speaker 4: the Vikings, We've got the Steelers. They're in Dublin.

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Speaker 7: You know, yes, we may know somebody who what what

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Speaker 7: a place?

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Speaker 5: What a place?

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Speaker 4: Our Lord and Savior, Scott Shapiro is going to be

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Speaker 4: there seeing his skull Vikings. Yeah, going to be out

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Speaker 4: there to go see him. A big event for everybody,

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Speaker 4: and everybody's really fired up about it. And then Roger

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Speaker 4: Goodell says in an interview with CNBC that there are

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Speaker 4: international markets that could manage an NFL team, which I'm

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Speaker 4: sure that they are. I would just ask this question, have.

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Speaker 3: We really.

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Speaker 4: Gone everywhere we could in the US? Like, is there

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Speaker 4: no market in the US that could also support a

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Speaker 4: team that we need to grow at internationally? Is there

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Speaker 4: not a city in the US or a market in

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Speaker 4: the US that could use a little love from the

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Speaker 4: NFL as opposed to taking all of this and sending

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Speaker 4: it overseas to Europe, Like that's that's my big question.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's one about that, Like you're not

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Speaker 7: looking at this the way the NFL season, the NFL

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Speaker 7: season as the way of growing the sport to grow

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Speaker 7: their bottom line. And I would say this, tell me

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Speaker 7: which is more valued a franchise in Jacksonville, Florida or

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Speaker 7: one in London?

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Speaker 5: Probably London.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 7: What about the difference between I don't know, Carolina versus Frankfurt, Germany,

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Speaker 7: or let's say doublin Ireland.

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Speaker 3: That one's more debatable because I mean Carolina, it's not

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Speaker 3: it's a nice market.

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Speaker 6: It's not. It's a small market.

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Speaker 3: It's how small Well.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't I don't think it's I don't know it's

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Speaker 6: in the top.

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Speaker 3: Twenty Charlotte, Charlotte, Right, yeah, I don't know, Go ahead,

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Speaker 3: keep talking.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 7: My general point is like, if you're looking at trying

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Speaker 7: to grow the fan interest and the franchise value of

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Speaker 7: these teams, the best way they'll be able to do

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Speaker 7: it is if they go to a larger city where

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Speaker 7: they're going to be able to be more absorbed by

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Speaker 7: that market, you know, create more value for their franchise.

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Speaker 6: Like, that's the immediate way you'd be able to.

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Speaker 9: Do that market twenty first, yeah, yeah, so and again

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Speaker 9: if you think it's bigger than you know, some of

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Speaker 9: these bigger international cities, it's it's not even close.

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Speaker 3: It's not. Yeah I meant you on that, Yeah I agree.

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Speaker 7: But but but that's how the that's the thing is,

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Speaker 7: people aren't looking at this anymore from as a fan.

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Speaker 7: The second that you allow teems to be bought a

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Speaker 7: best percentage of by private equity, you should the running

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Speaker 7: is on the wall. Folks like these, these owners don't

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Speaker 7: care about the fans.

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Speaker 6: They don't.

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Speaker 7: They don't a lot of business owners don't care about

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Speaker 6: As much anymore.

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Speaker 7: They don't like we have hit an inflection point in

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Speaker 7: our society where if you own a business, you're going

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Speaker 7: one to two ways. You're either, you know, passing it

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Speaker 7: down to your family, and you're gonna try to run

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Speaker 7: that thing as best way you see, because you know

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Speaker 7: that that matters long term for your kids. That's part

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Speaker 7: of your legacy. That's what you're leaving them. That's one route.

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Speaker 7: We don't really see that as much anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we were seeing that with the earthsdays. I guess with

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Speaker 7: mister passing, obviously he has been passing it down to

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Speaker 7: his daughters. You know, we see with some other organizations,

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Speaker 7: the rounies or you go out the maras with the

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Speaker 7: New York Giants. But in some cases, look at the Broncos,

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Speaker 7: they can get passed down from mister Bowleen to his kids.

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Speaker 6: Those are the states. So they sold it. Now the

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Speaker 6: Wallden family's involved in that.

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Speaker 7: So the other direction is maybe the kids don't want

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Speaker 7: to run it, Maybe they just want to cash out

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Speaker 6: They don't want to be a part of that business. Well,

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Speaker 6: then they're selling it.

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Speaker 7: And once you sell it, you're selling it to someone

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Speaker 7: who has no ties whatsoever, no history whatsoever with the

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Speaker 7: whatever that is sports team, name your business. And what

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Speaker 7: happens is that it becomes all about the bottom line.

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Speaker 7: How am I going to recoup what I'm paying for

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Speaker 7: this business so I can sell it one day and

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Speaker 6: That's what this has become.

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Speaker 7: And so we can sit here right in the here

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Speaker 7: and now, in the short term and go, oh no,

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Speaker 7: they're just trying to expand the footprint of the NFL stuff.

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Speaker 6: But the reality is there is a.

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Speaker 7: Longer term plan of how the NFL is not going

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Speaker 7: to plateau and how it's going to keep growing, and

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Speaker 7: the franchise values of these teams is going to keep growing.

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Speaker 7: You know, people look at flag football as being a

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Speaker 7: part of the Olympics as this push for everything's gonna

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Speaker 7: move to flag at some point one day.

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Speaker 6: No, it's not.

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Speaker 7: No, that's the easiest way to segue to get other

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Speaker 7: countries more interested in the sport of football. So then

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Speaker 7: once you get them in on flag, then they come

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Speaker 7: see the real version of them like, dang, this is sweet.

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Speaker 7: We need to start doing this and once that hits,

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Speaker 7: once that takes, you can say it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 6: It already is. That's the reality. It already is.

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Speaker 5: It's just a gateway.

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Speaker 3: Tried it, they've tried it before. It's not it will.

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Speaker 3: American football will never be more than what it is.

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Speaker 3: Too much more than what it is.

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Speaker 7: Now talk to me from now man, because the reality

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Speaker 7: is what they're seeing is NFL Europe, right, which was

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Speaker 7: not are the starters, was not the best of the best,

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Speaker 7: laid the groundwork for a lot of why you see

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Speaker 7: the fandom of football today today.

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Speaker 6: It failed. It failed, and it didn't fail.

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Speaker 7: They chose to shut it down. They weren't putting enough

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Speaker 7: money into it. And that's fine, however, you but that

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Speaker 7: doesn't mean that it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's a fail.

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Speaker 7: NFL NFL Europe was honestly probably one of the greatest

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Speaker 7: thoughts for spreading the game of American football. Preparing quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: for mind you or even other players like that might

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Speaker 7: have been the best idea for a developmental league ever

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Speaker 7: because players who weren't getting experienced were getting experienced in real,

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Speaker 7: live game scenarios. Coaches who were maybe position coaches, they

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Speaker 7: got to call plays, they got to be coordinators, they

668
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Speaker 7: got to be maybe head coaches in some cases, So

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Speaker 7: that was that element of it. You had officials who

670
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Speaker 7: maybe weren't ready for the NFL, but they got the

671
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Speaker 7: experience and they got some tread on their tires from that.

672
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Speaker 7: You even had broadcasters like talk to Troy Aikman, talk

673
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Speaker 7: talk to people who when they first got into broadcasting,

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Speaker 7: guys who went over and did game gas over there,

675
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Speaker 7: producers behind the scenes, analysts on camera like Todd Brady

676
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Speaker 7: would have done some games where he could kind of,

677
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Speaker 7: you know, start off, start off his career now on

678
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 7: the biggest national stage.

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Speaker 6: All that stuff was one of the best ideas ever.

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Speaker 3: Development of it was as well developed and as successful

681
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Speaker 3: as you're saying it would still be here and it

682
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Speaker 3: would be bigger.

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Speaker 6: That's no, that's not true, dude. That's not how business works.

684
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Speaker 7: Because there's great businesses that are ideas, but they're Okay,

685
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Speaker 7: you don't even it doesn't work.

686
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Speaker 3: It doesn't. It doesn't if it.

687
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Speaker 6: Does, not that it didn't work.

688
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 7: The owners didn't want to keep putting money into it.

689
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Speaker 6: And that's the.

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Speaker 3: Problem is the business that Well, explain how that? How

691
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Speaker 3: does that?

692
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Speaker 6: Okay, I'll explain on the sports just.

693
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Speaker 3: How long on earlier on in the in the segment.

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Speaker 3: Now you're saying the owner, that's.

695
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Speaker 7: How you're trying to create value for the franchise right now,

696
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 7: So how long did it take Amazon to turn a profit?

697
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Speaker 6: Should they have just given up? Exactly?

698
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 7: Should Jeff Bezos have just given up because they weren't

699
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Speaker 7: able to turn a profit?

700
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Speaker 6: Like that's the reality of it.

701
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Speaker 3: I feel like that takes that's not an apples the

702
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Speaker 3: apples conversation because the NFL is the NFL. NFL is

703
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: something totally different.

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Speaker 6: That was developmentally yeah, yeah, developmental league, and so they

705
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 6: got tired of that.

706
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Speaker 3: To that point, no development league has worked none. Sure,

707
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Speaker 3: I think the only successful the only successful outside of

708
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Speaker 3: the NFL. Football that works is Canadian League football, like

709
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Speaker 3: that's it.

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Speaker 6: Which which which actually is failing more than ever now because.

711
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: I mean it's never been relevant here otherwise than they're

712
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: changing postars, they're actually shortening the end zone.

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Speaker 7: They've actually they're actually making a lot of changes to

714
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Speaker 7: make it more like American But that's a whole other

715
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Speaker 7: separate discussion. But the point is is the idea of

716
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 7: what it was was actually really smart. It was really

717
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 7: good for the league at that time. I mean you

718
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 7: had guys like Kurt Warner, Like, there's guys who came

719
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 7: out of that who made big impacts in the NFL.

720
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Speaker 7: There's people who are in TV production, there's people who

721
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 7: are coaches that were like, you man, that was a blast.

722
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 7: I got some experience, I learned a lot. So that's

723
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 7: an idea to me, sure, But but an idea doesn't

724
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 7: always become a great business. But what you're missing is

725
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 7: the fact that it did lay the groundwork for a

726
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Speaker 7: lot of the interests. Like when Jonas and I go

727
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 7: to Dublin and I talked to some of the people

728
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Speaker 7: who are interested about the game, some of the people

729
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 7: will mention, h they'll be like, oh, I first, you

730
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Speaker 7: know saw it back when an NFL Europe Like people

731
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 7: would mention that I know you were on.

732
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Speaker 3: That cheat day, Like, yeah, I wasn't on that trip,

733
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: so I can't exactly.

734
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Speaker 7: So I'm just telling you, like when people say that stuff,

735
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 7: you're like, oh, okay, it did have its impact on that.

736
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Speaker 7: And so in regards to the comment about the bottom line, yeah,

737
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 7: if you're able to move a franchise, like if I

738
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 7: took a business from California to Texas and immediately it

739
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 7: became have a greater enterprise value, would that not be

740
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Speaker 7: increasing the value of just by simply moving the company?

741
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Speaker 3: Are businesses I do not believe. I do not believe, but.

742
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how it works.

743
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 7: You can move a business from one place to another

744
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 7: and it immediately get increase in value.

745
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: The infrastructure of what football represents will never grow to

746
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: that level in abroad countries it will not.

747
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Speaker 6: So you don't think we'll ever get a team in London.

748
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: I think there will be a team that goes there eventually.

749
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: Do I think that it will be a successful, a

750
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: successful business venture to take multiple teams and end up

751
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: having multiple teams in Europe? The only way it's successful

752
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: is if you have advertisers and sponsors that see it

753
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Speaker 3: fit to be a part of what the bohemoth of

754
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: the NFL is marketing and advertising wise, and their product

755
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: is consumed abroad. Like to me that that would be

756
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: the only way it would make sense in terms of

757
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: it being a grassroots sport. It will never it will

758
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: never get to being a grassroots sport that grows organically

759
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: the way that intentionally the way it does here in America.

760
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Speaker 7: So are you telling me that there's current sponsors of

761
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Speaker 7: the NFL that aren't global companies or don't want to

762
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Speaker 7: and maybe increase their reach.

763
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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that would be the reason why that.

764
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Speaker 6: Would exactly so excess. That would make it, you know.

765
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Speaker 3: That would make it purely for sponsor based driven content,

766
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Speaker 3: and which is how how you increase the way to

767
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Speaker 3: be grassroots. It wouldn't be grass pe. I'm not making

768
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Speaker 3: it containable.

769
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Speaker 6: You're conflating the two points. I'm not.

770
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Speaker 7: I'm not combining what NFL Europe was into anything other

771
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 7: than creating what the interest is in the American football

772
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 7: over in Europe.

773
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Speaker 6: By what that did that you want to.

774
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Speaker 3: Give a few couple of decades ago a spectacle to

775
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: go see, but it's largely a corporate driven event abroad.

776
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Then sure you you put a team there or maybe

777
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: one more somewhere else, and that that works. But talking

778
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: about but if you're talking about putting an entire division

779
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Speaker 3: or a whole bunch of teams over there, I just don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't see it, don't. I don't see.

781
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 7: And that's what it went over there when we went

782
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 7: over with the Broncos. That's what they talked about. It

783
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 7: would make the most sense not to move one, but

784
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 7: to actually have four teams over there, because then if

785
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 7: as far as the travel back and forth in the

786
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 7: time zones, it would be more advantageous for those teams

787
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Speaker 7: to have an entire division.

788
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Speaker 3: I'll bet that I know, raight, I'll bet you I'll

789
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Speaker 3: fade you on that one.

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Speaker 6: I'll fade I'm just telling you what I was told

791
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 6: this like over a decade ago.

792
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: Listen, if I'm just saying I'll fade you on, I mean,

793
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: I do not think that there will be four teams

794
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 3: that successfully exists in Europe.

795
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Speaker 4: All well not well, I mean, listen, you can fade

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Speaker 3: going to win.

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Speaker 6: It's Quinn Switt.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you wouldn't know it based on our podcast.

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Speaker 6: But last week three and one.

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Speaker 7: How about that hum Maryland Michigan unlv titwe there in Oxford, Ohio.

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Speaker 7: But they were able to come back and pull it

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Speaker 7: out finally against my Vihio and well, the loser was Illinois.

824
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Speaker 7: They got drummed by Indiana. We all witnessed that. I

825
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Speaker 7: have a's slated for you this week. You have to

826
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Speaker 7: feel confident after being three and one, nine and eleven

827
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Speaker 7: overall in the season.

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Speaker 6: No one cares to hear about any of this.

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Speaker 7: LeVar doesn't put in the work, he doesn't care about it,

830
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Speaker 7: so he's gonna sit this one out. First game up,

831
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Speaker 7: we've got Alabama headed to Georgia.

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Speaker 6: They're getting three points.

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Speaker 7: Now here's the This is not the same Bama team

834
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Speaker 7: as we're accustomed to seeing taken on Kirby Smart, which

835
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 7: by the way, it hasn't been overly successful anyway. But

836
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 7: this team struggled to win on the road, and also

837
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 7: they've been struggling to run the football. I think three

838
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Speaker 7: points it's just it's not enough in my opinion. So

839
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Speaker 7: three on the dot. There are DraftKings. You go ahead

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Speaker 7: and lay them with Georgia. They find a way of

841
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Speaker 7: winning and covering this number. Next up, another SEC matchup LSU.

842
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 7: They're headed to Old Miss. Now they're getting a point

843
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 7: and a half. So this is basically almost up picking

844
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 7: when it comes down to it. But Austin Simmons, the

845
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 7: starting quarterback for All Miss, he is out. Sean Bliss

846
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 7: goes as the backup quarterback. I don't need much more

847
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 7: than that, besides the fact that this transfer class has

848
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 7: been phenomenal for LSU this year. Their defense has improved

849
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 7: by over sixty yards a game and by multiple touchdowns

850
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Speaker 7: per game. That's how much better this LSU defense has been.

851
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Speaker 7: Even though Garret Nussamyer hasn't got off to really the

852
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 7: lightning hot start we thought he was going to. I

853
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Speaker 7: think they do enough not only just to cover this number,

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00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 7: but to outright win at Old Miss this week. So

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Speaker 7: LSU plus one and a half, they're on DraftKings. Next

856
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Speaker 7: up a battle in the Big twelve TCU. They're getting

857
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Speaker 7: three headed to Scottsdale to take on I should say

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Speaker 7: Tempi to take on Arizona State. Now, this was one

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Speaker 7: of the toughest picks for me this entire week. Josh

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Speaker 7: Uver has been playing phenomenal, maybe the best quarterback in

861
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Speaker 7: the Big twelve, but he's gonna have a chance to

862
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 7: prove it against Sam Levitt, who's also been playing really

863
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Speaker 7: well for Arizona State this year.

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Speaker 6: It was a tough one. I think TCU is flying

865
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Speaker 6: under the radar. I think they're one of the best

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Speaker 6: teams in the Big twelve this year.

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna take the three points TCU on the road,

868
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Speaker 7: I think they start making a claim for being one

869
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Speaker 7: of the better teams in college football, potentially being a

870
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Speaker 7: playoff team.

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Speaker 6: What it's all said and done.

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Speaker 7: Next up, surprising number here for Florida State on the road,

873
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 7: headed to Charlottesville to take on Virginia. Florida State's given

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00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 7: seven points here. I just think with the way they've

875
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 7: been able to run the football and kind of dominate

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Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage. Don't want to say it's been

877
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 7: a surprise, but they've exceeded my expectations and that defensively,

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Speaker 7: I don't think UV has be able to put up

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Speaker 7: many points.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead and lay the seven points.

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Speaker 7: Florida State continues on building back up their reputation within

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Speaker 7: the ACC and the college football world. A couple a

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Speaker 7: few more for you loaded weekend of games USC. I'll

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Speaker 7: be there to see them take on the fighting a line.

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Speaker 7: I usually don't pick games that we're actually at. This

886
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 7: is one nowhere. It's hard to ignore some of the

887
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 7: deficiencies that Illinois has on defense. In particular, secondary which

888
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 7: is one of the strong points for USC is their

889
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 7: passing game. Jordan Miov has been phenomenal this year. Lemon

890
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 7: lane Lane's actually questionable before the game. We'll see if

891
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 7: you can end up suiting up for it. But I

892
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 7: think it's just too much firepower for Southern Cow. They

893
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 7: get another win to stay undefeated, and you lay the

894
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 7: seven points with Southern Cow on the road.

895
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 6: Another big one.

896
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 7: Ohio State taking on Washington out in Seattle. This number

897
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 7: has come down dramatically. However, It's gonna be interesting to

898
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 7: see if Washington Huskies, who haven't really played anyone, can

899
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 7: keep this one close. But the numbers eight and a

900
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 7: half on DraftKings, I like them on Williams Junior to

901
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 7: keep this close. I think the Huskies are able to

902
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 7: keep it within the eight and a half numbers. So

903
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: take the points and the Huskies at home. And finally

904
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 7: the big one, Penn State host an Oregon.

905
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 6: They're given three and a half we are Take the ducks.

906
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 6: Takeea half in the ducks. Oh no, oh no.

907
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: Twins, Wins take Arkansas. This weekend, everyone take Arkansas.