1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm real people, real celebrity joined the breakfast What up y'all? 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Is DJ m vy Angela Yee Charlomagne the guy we 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club got a special guest with us 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: in the building, Champs the rapper Who Chance trump Everybody? 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: You said breakfast club with Donnie? I'm like, who the 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: hell on the show's named Donnie? Donnie Trumpet? What's up? Everybody? 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Let's start back? Who is Chance? Because I'm familiar with you, 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: I've never really heard a song, never heard of verse. 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: So for someone like me who's not up on a 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Chance the rapper? Who are you? All right? I'm the rapper. 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago twenty one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm done rapper. 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm an artist of shorts and uh from 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: Chicago and for the people. And I got two mixtapes 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: up lasted rappers, one out a couple of years ago. 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: That would be the one that you know, Yeah he 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: went before that. Guess ten Day. You might know it, 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: you might not know it. Explain the concert, but ten 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Day ten Day was recorded while I was on ten 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: day suspension from high school. What you do well you 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: get suspended? I have, Yeah, I have marijuana. I don't 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: know what the rules are for. I had not really 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: a lot of weed, but like on school property, I guess, 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: or like a half of zip zip No, like like 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: a like a maybe maybe a quarter maybe a quarter 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: selling a smoking. I was smoking. But they were trying 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: to say I hadn't tend to sell, but I didn't. 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I had it in one bag. It was for me. 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I wasn't really trying to say nothing. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: I didn't know what was incriminating, what was not. I 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: was chilling, but they gave me the suspension. Somebody telling 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: you because Lenna tell you something. When I was in 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: high school, and I shoul probably shouldn't a long time. 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: But when I was in high school, we used to 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: get money when we used to tell on people for 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: having We like lame dude, like lame dude, not know 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: like what he what is he doing with weed? I 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: would go tell on him. I go to the printool 38 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: like you've always been like because cool and be like, yo, 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: look I got weed. I got a gun. So we 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: tell on him and get money. Well said you got gun? 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Chat just for people and everything. I hope not. That'd 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: be crazy if I found out somebody told on me. 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: I think it was just the school was into like 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: what I was on and stuff, so like they kind 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: of followed me around. The police officer that was issued 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: to the school, we'll kind of like randomly checked my 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: locker and all types of stuff. And he was actually 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: one of them family. I was a little bit actually, 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: like a couple of blocks away from school because I 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: went to school downtown, so like I was like in 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: an alley somewhere, and dude just walked up on me 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: and grabbed me, took me back to the school, made 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: sure they kicked me out of school, and then then 54 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: took me to the station off ten days and you 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: did a mixtape in the library? Yeah, yeah, equipment library, 56 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: they didn't. So there's this thing called You Media and Chicago, 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: which is, uh, it's through Chicago public libraries, and they 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: basically give the space for young kids to learn how 59 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: to use media, whether it be like you know, using 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: the Internet and different programs for making you know, work stuff, 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: or also like instruments and production software and a recording 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: studio and music theory classes. Me and Donnie both grew 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: up in it, and they're like kind of expanding it now. 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: So I'm working really closely with them. But you didn't 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: pass the weed to Donnie Man. Donnie, do you carry 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: a weed? Now? What is the role? No? Definitely not 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: I have I have my own personal weed carriers on 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: all ten days suspensions. I don't want any of that trouble. 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: Your mom was going to the library to study and 70 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: you was actually making a mixtape. Yeah, I mean I 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: think my mom was glad that I was at the 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: library regardless. I didn't have to really expound on what 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: I was doing that. I was just like, yeah, I'm 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: going to the library. But it was like yeah, it 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: was like all that stuff. And then there was also 76 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: an open mic program through that called Lyricists, and like um, 77 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: it was led by a guy named Brother Mike rest 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: in Peace. But he was my mentor growing up, and 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: he would just have all these kids from the city, 80 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, all sides of the city 81 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: because it was right downtown, so like all the trains 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: came there and everybody would come and just you know, 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: make a statement like the answer sing or you know, rapper, 84 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: do a little bit of comedy for working stuff like 85 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: but people will come up and present and that was 86 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: my spot that's all like game my fans. Now, I 87 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: did just read that you opened up a digital library 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago. Yeah, so I opened up the car. DIDU 89 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: wasn't shout out to Cardiguuson. I think it's still February 90 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: right now, Black History months. You know. Well, I'll tell 91 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: you what made me go back and listen to your music. Um, 92 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: it was Lallapalooza and they were saying that you were 93 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: like the highlight of Lallapalooza last year. You know, not 94 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: only was it Chicago, but you brought out our Kelly 95 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: came out and performed with you. You had everybody, you're 96 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: teaching everybody. How did you watched our Kelly tape growing up? 97 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: That's wild? Yes, yeah, well I don't know if it 98 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: was our Kelly on the tape. He said it wasn't him. 99 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: You learn anything from that tape? From that tape? Oh 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: my god, you're crazy. And I've been trying to peek 101 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: do you mind if I finished? Oh I'm sorry, thank 102 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah, so that's actually what made me 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: go back and say, okay, And you were on the 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: double XIL Freshman cover and that was another thing. But 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: when Tray I was up here. He said, y'all had 106 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: some type of issue, Like he called you a weird 107 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: because he walked up through your face and called you 108 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: a weird old wrapper. Me and Troy have are cool people's. 109 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: Uh we met at the at the double xhel Shoot. 110 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: We didn't we didn't know each other really before that, 111 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: but uh was here. I can stay at office. No, 112 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: we was cool. It was I don't know, maybe he 113 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: felt standoffish and I just didn't detect it. But we're cool, 114 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I got really sick 115 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: early last year when I was getting ready to play Coachella, 116 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: and he texted, I had like a high flute, like 117 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a high temperature mixed with flue, mixed with like, uh 118 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: like tonsilitis just a bunch of stuff from I remember 119 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: because everybody was excited after a lot of PALLUSA. Everybody 120 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: was like, we got to see a chance to wrap 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: it perform. Yeah, yeah, I mean I did. I did 122 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: the first weekend of Coachella, brought out Justin Bieber. It 123 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: was a huge thing. Then I went on a string 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: of shows like for my birthday, because my birthday was 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: in between. I got really sick on that little in 126 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: between week and then when it was time for the 127 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: next weekend, I came down with this you know what 128 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying, terrible temperature and fluid stuff, so I couldn't play. 129 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: But a lot of people hit me up with like 130 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: words of like, you know what I'm saying, I hope 131 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: you're doing all right. And Troy was one of them, 132 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: and like he didn't like you back then at the 133 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Double XL. He probably didn't know. We don't. Yeah, we 134 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: didn't know each other. I think the thing is what 135 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: we we both didn't really understand where each other were 136 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: coming from at first, but like now we understand, like 137 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: we just have our own lays and we both want 138 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: each other to be successful. Troy says he's the dealer 139 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and guys like you were the user. Yeah, I mean, 140 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: I like, there's there's different ways to look at everything, right, 141 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: we do you think it's it's kind of messed up 142 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: that is classism and Rapp though for sure I think 143 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: it's messed up that is classism in the world, but 144 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: definitely and Rap. I think it's weird that Rap is 145 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: like one of the only like you know, really really 146 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: uh not just competitive sport musics, but like contact sport music. 147 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's if there's always 148 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: feels like there has to be one defined objective winner 149 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: of music and we always have to find one person 150 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: that's you know, killing everybody else, and it's it's not 151 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: really like that another genres and I think that that's 152 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't think it's just weird. 153 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: I think it's like, you know what I'm saying, systematically 154 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: like that because it's a predominantly black art and it's 155 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: a successful it, so people don't want it to be like, 156 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, a bunch of people taking 157 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: over music and it would rather be you know what 158 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, the crabs in the barrel thing. 159 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: I think I think everybody can move successfully and do 160 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: what they want to do and make the type of 161 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: music they want to make. And uh, it'll make the 162 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: genre as a whole and not just the genre, but 163 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: because we said it's superdominantly black genre, like, uh will 164 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: make the people move as a whole right now. You 165 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: you also volunteered for Barack Obama when he was campaigning. 166 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: How was that? Because they said your dad worked closely 167 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: with him, Yeah, No, my pops has worked with Brock 168 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, my pops is like a 169 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: mover in a shaker, you know what I'm saying. Like 170 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: he has worked in government for a really long time. 171 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: He works in the Mayor's office now, but yeah, all 172 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: throughout high school he worked in the White House. I 173 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: used to live in DC. Thank you from like DC? Right, 174 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: but yeah, but uh yeah, he I grew up, you 175 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Working, How did your pops feel 176 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: with what you go into the rap game? Since you 177 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: was so connected politically, I mean when I was really young, 178 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: because I've been doing this since I was really young, 179 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, thirteen fourteen, Like I 180 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: think originally it wasn't necessarily the main idea, but I 181 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: think it as as as it grew. My dad is like, 182 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, he was a campaign manager. He put people 183 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: in office, but showed people to the people, you know 184 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, And my dad at a certain 185 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: point kind of campaign managed me and showed me how 186 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: to like, you know, print flyers and and move on 187 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: foot and work organically with the people to like he 188 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: was a political activist kind of you go there, I'm 189 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: for the people for your dad to do from Scans 190 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: what's the guy's name? From Scander? Would you say that 191 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: Palooza in Chicago was probably, like to date, maybe your 192 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: biggest most impactful performance. Definitely for me. Yeah, well we 193 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: had played Lollapalooza a couple of years on the road. 194 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: What do you do? I played the trumpet mostly, but 195 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: I do lots of things, um as Donnie trumpet. Yeah, 196 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: y'all a group? Yeah, yeah, we're a band. Okay, Yeah, 197 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: we're the Social Experiment. We're a collective. Okay, we are 198 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: the Social Experiment. Uh. Donnie is the leader. Um. He 199 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: played with kids these Days and with Frank Ocean and 200 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: we've worked together in the past and eventually we started 201 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: our own band, Social Experiment. So we've been you know 202 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we're the the name in front of 203 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, Uh, all of our 204 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: events that we throw, you know, we do like like 205 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: you just said, social and political activism, and we do 206 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: that as a social experiment. We just make a lot 207 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: of moves. But yeah, Donnie is like, you're the first 208 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: one coming album, um, and the first one coming out 209 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: with a group project. So the first social Experiment project 210 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: as a as a unit is headed by Donnie Trumpet. 211 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: I like that name. What's the Social Experiment is? What 212 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: is the Social Experiment? Exactly? I like that name. What 213 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: is y'all to social experience? Okay, so the Social Experiment 214 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: is more than just me and Donnie, but it's it's 215 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: a collective of a lot of different artists that, you 216 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, are interested in making dope free stuff, 217 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it doesn't even really 218 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: just refer to music, but like it's it's a it's 219 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: a it's a blend of production and writing. That's how 220 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: we started off. Like after I finished my last project 221 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: as her, I started doing a lot of writing and 222 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: producing for other artists in this collective called the Social 223 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Experiment and worked with some really dope artists like H. L. 224 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Varner and J Cole and Jill Scott and White Left 225 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of different people. And uh, eventually we 226 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: were like yo, Like, while we were touring as the 227 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: band as my backup band for for my live shows, 228 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: we started making songs that we were like, we shouldn't 229 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: necessarily show this to anybody or try and get somebody 230 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: to singer or rap it or you know what I'm saying, 231 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: put it out. We should put it out ourselves. So 232 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: since then, we've just been on kind of a mission 233 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 1: to make the dopest stuff that we can possible and 234 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: give it away free. Yeah, that's the that's the move. 235 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: That's what what charge for shows merchandise were. Yeah. I mean, 236 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: money's gonna be made in different ways. I think, like 237 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: there art, like you said, merchandise, touring, uh, sponsorships. There's 238 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: a lot of way for artists to make money without 239 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: necessarily selling their songs for one dollar, doing like a 240 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: small deal with Spotify for you know what I'm saying, 241 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: some type of distribution. Um, but you've met with all 242 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: kinds of labels you just have opted not to sign. Yeah, 243 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: I think. I mean it's a it's it's a it's 244 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: a deep conversation. A lot of thoughts come to my 245 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: mind when Yeah, I like, I like how deep it gets. 246 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: Thank you Charlotagne for the deep questions. Um, I think, uh, 247 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: I think now it's but I think like the whole 248 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: thing with music is that it's moving in a direction 249 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: where it's going to become a little bit more exclusive. 250 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: I love the way that music is very inclusive and 251 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: it's used to bring a lot of people to different things, 252 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: mainly advertising, you know what I'm saying, building a brands 253 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: and stuff. But I think it's not just a black 254 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: thing anymore. It's not just a black thing anymore. You 255 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's not just a you know 256 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the musical thing. It's about music and lyrics. 257 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: It's about being able to relate with people. And I 258 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: think all of that stuff is dope, but we're kind 259 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: of trying to retract it into a you know what 260 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean when I say bohemian society, like all bohemian. Yeah, 261 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: we also want people to stop hating on people for 262 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: having dreadlocks. Also, like that's that's one of the things. 263 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: What's independent? Then you mentioned independent? Is it is it successful? 264 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: Because a lot of autists that they're independent and they're 265 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: getting six seven dollars an album, and we know that's 266 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: not true. It sounds great, it sounds good, but we 267 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: don't see the money. So is it a way that 268 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: you want to go? Because with a major they will 269 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: push you to a scale that you you can't do independently. 270 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: I might not necessarily agree with you. I'm pushing you 271 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: to a level that that you might not be able 272 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: to get to. There's definitely the distribution. They could put 273 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: you in the seat that I'm in right now and 274 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: tell you, you know what I'm saying, to go up 275 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: to the radio stations. They can put you on a 276 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: stage somewhere like I was last night. I could put 277 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: you in a lot of different places. But I think 278 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: it's about being you know what I'm saying, the manager 279 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: of the project, of the project, of the product. You 280 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like how you get there right exactly? 281 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: So like for me and for Nico and for the 282 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: social experiment. Nico's his real name. I know, Donnie is 283 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: his name that everybody knows mess but I call him 284 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Nico Donnie choose one, Yeah, But for us, it's about 285 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: that groundwork. It's about, like you know what I'm saying, 286 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: having that person to person connection. Some people that that 287 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: buy my music are investing me as a product and 288 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: as a person know me and they feel like I'm 289 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: connected to the community and connect it just in a 290 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: way that's closer than like, you know, that third person 291 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: relationship when you're when you're buying an album from Deaf Jam. 292 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: But you're supporting this one artist. You know what I'm saying. 293 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: The label is you know I'm saying, um pushing the product. 294 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: And then there's the consumer, and the consumer is the john. 295 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: So basically the firsthand supply it exactly exactly when Madonna 296 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: comes to you and says I need you to get 297 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: on the song. There's no clearances that she has to 298 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: She can just come to you and you can help on. Yeah. 299 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean we still gotta work out. Yeah, we still 300 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: gotta work out our clarances. I still need my side 301 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: artist agreement. I still got lawyers. I still like, you 302 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, label, But there's nobody that's gonna 303 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: take the percentage. There's nobody that's gonna say, Okay, I'm 304 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna work out the deal for you and find out 305 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: how much you work. Are you guys on your own publishing? Yeah, 306 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: we got our publishing house. We got you know what 307 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We do, We do the stuff that we 308 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: want to do it. I'm sorry, am I talking to no? No? No? 309 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I got a very deep question for Donnie. Donnie, deep question, 310 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: do you get a lot of playing the trumpet because 311 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: people always say, give the drum or something. We never 312 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: hear somebody to give the trumpet. Classically, it is a 313 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: very um women friendly instrument. It requires a lot of 314 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: mouth work, a lot of blow. There you go. Maybe 315 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: that's it. Maybe it's the beautiful sound. Maybe it's the 316 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: man behind the trumpet. True, it's all those things. Listen, 317 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: you smashed Madonna or what man? Because she bought you 318 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: a school. She's just not gonna buy you know school bro. Yeah, 319 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: she definitely asked her verses for school this chance. Yeah, 320 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not doing no verses for no scooters. But no, 321 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: we're just we're close friends. She's a very respectable woman. 322 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: How did that happen? You're twenty one years old? Mcdonna's 323 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: sixty something, right. How do y'all be come close for us? Oh? 324 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: That's actually funny. I just realized. Well I met her 325 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: through Frank Ocean, who's a friend of mine. Uh. He 326 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: brought her to a show once. Uh and what l 327 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: a Frank mcdonna too. I mean mcdonna was one of 328 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: those people we think about being on this super b 329 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: like on another planet, you know what I'm saying, Like 330 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: her and Michael, Like you don't just see mcdonna at 331 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: his show. Big Daddy came back in the day, Like 332 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: Donna knows what's up? You know what I'm saying. She 333 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: comes to what she? Yeah, I guess she. She came 334 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: through Frank and put her onto the music. And I 335 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: only know that Frank through through Donnie, or originally knew 336 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: him through Donnie, but uh yeah, Frank brought it through 337 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: a show. We met real quick. We didn't talk for 338 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: a while, and then we were at some festival and 339 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I got a call from jay Z and he was like, yo, 340 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Madonna asked me to get on the tracker. Uh this 341 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: iconic record about icons, blah blah blah, And I think 342 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: that it'd be better if somebody who was a new 343 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: person I think could be a new icon got on 344 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: the recorded in your story, Hold, just have your number 345 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: to call you. Who are you? Who are you? You 346 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: actually didn't call my personal sell you called Pat the manager, 347 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: my manager. But uh yeah we know some people at 348 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: rock Nation. Uh. Jay Z had us play the Main 349 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: America festival last year and his wife got checked out 350 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: our set. So the wife Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, I mean 351 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: you can't say that. You can say Jacob oh Jacob's 352 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: all right, I thought you were trying to be clever 353 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean that was clever. That was very clever. Yes, 354 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: one of your shows too, Yeah, that didn't make the move. 355 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: Like when she supported Joey Badass. Yeah, I don't know. 356 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: People are out for Joey and I don't really under 357 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: stand it, but like, yeah, like she's she likes music. 358 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I'm not really really close to her, but like we 359 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: may be met a couple of times when I was 360 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: a shorty because like I said, my dad used to 361 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: work for Obama, but it is your dad, like Jason Bourne, 362 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: and like everybody knows this. So that's why, like people, 363 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: you're so easy to get, like very much. So yeah, 364 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's not very very easy. My dad doesn't 365 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: work in the music brold than stuff. But like when 366 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: I want to do like like like we were talking 367 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: about the social activism and political activism and you know, 368 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: I starting our our own open mic in Chicago, and 369 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: I was working with the Field Museum to do a 370 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: uh you know, a free museum campus day for South 371 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: and West Side neighborhoods and anything that we want to do. 372 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: I know, I have the proper channels and it's through 373 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: my connections and like the tactics that we learned early 374 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: on for just getting music to the people, and just 375 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: like understanding and realizing our own fan base and our 376 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 1: own friends could be the people that support us, you know, 377 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: are artistically you know, like his his father's background in politics. 378 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: It's definitely contributed to us being out on the street 379 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: like passing out mixtapes and and we're for people. So 380 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out. Did all of this 381 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: start happening for you with twenty thirteen when you did 382 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: Aster Rappers? That when you started getting all these connections, 383 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: the jay Z's, the Madonna's justin all of this happened 384 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: in that year. Um, yeah, I would say for the 385 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: most part, like, uh, twenty twelve, I dropped the Ten 386 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: Day Project that was a year out of high school, 387 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: and uh it things were things were bubbling for me 388 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: in the city, and the city as a whole was popping, 389 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Everybody was coming up around 390 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: the same time. And then I think the Aster Rap 391 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: Project was just a little bit um better put together 392 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: and we had a better game plan for it, and 393 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: I put out you know what I'm saying, professionally put 394 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: out a tape as a chance to rapp it before. 395 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: So once I put that out and we had like 396 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: the game plan set for how we're gonna two hour 397 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna do merge and and you know what I'm saying, 398 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: just a full, you know, well thought out game plan. 399 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Things took off, and I think people just started to 400 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: take notice, Now what's up with vic Mitch because I 401 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: do listen to him. I got put on the vig 402 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: Menzo when I was at south By Southwest last year 403 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: and I saw him perform at the Woodies. So I 404 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: was like, what's up with this victa dude? He had 405 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: to think it was saved the money or saved save money. 406 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: And it was like him a chance rapper in the group, 407 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, they go that named Chance the rapper again, 408 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: So who that's my brother. We we went to grade 409 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: school together and um went through lots of different musical 410 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: phases of of you know, like a rock phase where 411 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: we all listened to like Pink Floyd and led Zeppelin 412 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: and stuff, and then we went through like a hip 413 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: hop hip hop phase. Well you know what I'm saying, 414 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: We're like we only listened to old, old school hip 415 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: hop and like underground hip hop and uh hip hop 416 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: that was all about like hip hop. And then uh right, 417 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: and then um we were in a band together called 418 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: Kids These Days for a couple of years in Chicago, 419 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: and we kind of, uh we we would do all 420 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: the guerrilla tactics that we were talking about, you know, 421 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: Chance doing for acid rapping ten day, Like we would 422 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: be in the high schools PA, you know, selling tickets 423 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: and going to different high schools in the city and 424 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: blasting our music out the trunk and trying to sell 425 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: tickets and trying to get people to come to shows 426 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: and stuff. So um, yeah, we just kind of came 427 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: up in a real musical place and with the band. 428 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: You know, Vic got a lot of experience writing music 429 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: in that way, like jamming in a room with a 430 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: bunch of people playing instruments. You know, he's always been 431 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: a very uh instrumental person of vocalist and you know, 432 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: so when we would play shows, a lot of times 433 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: Chance would come up and rap verses or just like 434 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: jump around. And then when um we started playing south 435 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: By Southwest and Chance came to south By and we 436 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: we just it kind of all came together in a 437 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: really organic way, you know, and we started jamming together 438 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: and rests history. Who do you think has been the 439 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: most inspirational person that's reached out to you, somebody that 440 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: you admired that you were shocked, like, was it Andre 441 00:20:53,680 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: three thousand or you know, because he's a difficult persons deem. Yeah, Uh, 442 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: the sex is like you know what I'm saying. I 443 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: think most people that make music that are orange and 444 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: I'm saying and people that are older and younger, but 445 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: he's yeah, we feel like he's the best, the best, 446 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: and so like, can you really put him in that category? 447 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: They always had this conversation with and I love Andre, 448 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: but he's never given us a full body of work 449 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: rap wise as a solo, but as outcasts they put 450 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: out some of the best, absolutely the greatest group, no 451 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: question with him as a solo artist, I don't know yet. Well, 452 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: The Love Below is like one of the best albums 453 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: if we just counted that as a as an the 454 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: whole eight to eaton Heartbreaks thing to me, Yeah, it's 455 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: fawned a whole lot of music and let people know 456 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: that you could do something different hip hop. I think 457 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: every one of the albums did it took um you 458 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, black music out of the box 459 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: and made people feel like and just the whole idea 460 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: of being a rapper, I mean, like being a vocalist 461 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: and being a rapper and being like a being an 462 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: instrument you know, like he the way he changes his 463 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: voice or manipulates his voice and like pitches it up 464 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: in weird ways or like speed stuff up and slow 465 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: stuff down. Like he he made his voice something more 466 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: than just like writing a rap, you know what I mean. 467 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: Like and and it inspired a lot of people after 468 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: him to treat their voice in unique ways and to 469 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: come up with their own ways of of making rap 470 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: music that wasn't just writing raps. Now when y'all thought 471 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: experiment with drugs because you just don't make a called 472 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: acid rap. And I mean I had the whole pink 473 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: Floyd led Zeppelin. It must have been around that time. Yeah, 474 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'll actually attributed to somebody. 475 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: This girl I used to date a variety free when 476 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: I was in a senior in high school. You know, 477 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: I can't say that on the radio because that's just 478 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: a great school with her. Yeah, no, he knows, Shorty. 479 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: She was just she was my friend, but she's queen. 480 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: She's a travelers around but she she's like, yeah, you know, 481 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that that's the type of occupation 482 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: white people can't move around. I'm sorry, damn, I did 483 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: say that on the radio People Together, Chance Community, Community Community. 484 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: I was just making a joke, but Shorty introduced me, like, 485 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: gave me some some acid. When I was so, you 486 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: went from weed to ascid or did you start drinking first? 487 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: I was, I'm still not a drinker. I was never 488 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: really a drinker. I used to smoke weed, and I 489 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: actually I smoked cigarettes from a really young age, which 490 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: is a terrible habit. But like yeah, and when like cigarettes, 491 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: we asked, and now I kind of really badly smoke 492 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: with you. This is why you shouldn't come to the 493 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: assumptions about people. Because when I saw the CD called 494 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: acid Rap, and then I heard people like Troy asked say, 495 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: you know those are the guys that rap about using 496 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: and then it users, I wasn't interested, Like I don't 497 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: want to hear you know what I'm saying, I don't 498 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: do ascid. I'm not into that lifestyle. But then I'm 499 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: sitting here here and you talk. You're very political minded. 500 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Your father comes from the government, you know. It seems 501 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: like you're doing things very grassroots, which is another question 502 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: I have because um Be Dot from Rapper eight or 503 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: he always I asked him about you one time and 504 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: he said that you're a product of media hype, Like 505 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: a lot of publications put you on the front of 506 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: their magazines and stuff early, you know, a couple of 507 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: years ago, and you're more of a product of media 508 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: than actual I guess having a fan talent, we live 509 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: and we live in media hype, like we the reason 510 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: why people are successful a lot of the time nowadays 511 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: is because of media hype, or because of the Twitter 512 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: and the soundclouds and the facebooks and the and all 513 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: the different ways that these kids can literally talk to 514 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: chance to rapp or literally talk to some of their 515 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: favorite artists, you know what I mean. Like they can 516 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: explain themselves and ask questions and get information to shows 517 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: and get all the information for the for the download 518 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: of the album, and they can get whatever they need 519 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: from this one place, and it's really simple and it's 520 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: really easy for them to get. And I think the 521 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: whole idea of media hype has changed by by making 522 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: the Internet the place where people find music, like it's 523 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: it's the place where people understanding and get music now. 524 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: So it's like the idea of media hype is music now. 525 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: After that early on with the cover of Complex, the 526 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: cover been did you want that so early? I mean 527 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: for me, I guess for different people, it seems like 528 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: it comes at a different time, right, Like I mean 529 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: I any one. So to some people, I might be young, 530 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: and to some people I'm older. But like when I 531 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: got the Complex stuff, like I said, I've been making 532 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: music since I was fourteen. I was recording in basements 533 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying, terrible microphones and all 534 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: types of Like I've been through the fields and falls 535 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: of a struggling rapper, you know what I'm saying, And 536 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: I still feel like a struggling rapper. I still feel 537 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: like I'm hungry. No, I don't think you're struggling anymore. 538 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: I got I'm saying polo out here and stuff, but 539 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: like it's not it's it's for me. It was never 540 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: I never wanted to, like, uh, feel like I was 541 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: something being you know what I'm saying, shoved down people's throats, 542 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Like what's you felt like I like too many people 543 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: were telling you a chance to rapper, and I saw 544 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: you on COVID and magazines and I'm like, but I've 545 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: never heard a song. Yeah, I've never heard of verse. 546 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: It's the type of music where you have to listen 547 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: to the music to be like, oh my god. Now 548 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm a subscriber. You know what I'm saying. It's not 549 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: the type of music where your friend can tell you yo, 550 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: we've put chance the rapper now and you gets on YouTube. 551 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people watch your videos and a lot 552 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: of the artists really messed with you too. Yeah. I mean, 553 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: I think guys, everybody to understand it. I don't think 554 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: you necessarily have to be on asset. I think you 555 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: gotta if you like music, if you like if you 556 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: like music and lyrics, like if you're not like a 557 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: person that's like, yo, every bar's gotta be real hot 558 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: or like yo, I only like this kind of beat, 559 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Like if you like music, and every bar should be hot. Yeah, 560 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: everybody said once you should never waste the bar. Yeah, 561 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: oh no, I'm fire like acts like I'm very I'm 562 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: very cold. I just like this, like, you know, I 563 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: see the video with you an app. So I just 564 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't like the cigarette smoking because you look young in 565 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: that video. What was it three years ago? Yeah, four 566 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: years ago? You old enough to buy a cigarette? You're 567 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: not Kylie Jenner. No, But back he wasn't. And I 568 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: think that, you know, promoted he's smoking like a he's 569 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: smoking like a crazy person outside waiting in the cold, 570 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: smoke a cigarette like he's smoking. But but the video 571 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: was dope. I have a terrible smoking of it. But 572 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: I don't like I'm not. I've realized now I'm not 573 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: trying to be smoke. You don't smoke. We would smoke cigarettes. Yeah. 574 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: It's easier to quit smoking weed though than it is 575 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: to Chris smoking cigarette. But yeah, I mean there was 576 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: a certain point where I thought that that was like 577 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: And because I was younger, I had a different way 578 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: of thinking. But I thought that was my brand. I 579 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: thought it was cool for me to be you know 580 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to be myself and because smoking cigarette 581 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: was myself. I want to smoke cigarettes and videos I 582 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: want to be I'm not gonna wear different clothes for videos. 583 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this for videos because I want 584 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: to be myself. And I figured out recently that cigarettes 585 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: isn't myself, that's just something that I do in the 586 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: middle seat wrapping, but exactly. Yeah, no, Brad, do you 587 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: think like you You think your buzz has diminished a 588 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: little bit. And the only reason I say that is 589 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: just because of the surface. You know, back then you 590 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: was on the cover of magazines and all over the places, 591 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: and it's just like, yeah, you kind of disappeared. Bullshit. 592 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I haven't released a lot 593 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: of newer uh, I haven't released a project in a 594 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: long time, and people like projects, um, but I think 595 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: everybody's pretty excited for this Surf project, which is the 596 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: first social experiment project. I mean, I think if it 597 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: wasn't for that, I probably wouldn't have sold out Webster 598 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: Hall last night or got the cover of Fader. You 599 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the whole band, or be 600 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: sitting here talking to y'all. I think it's it's everybody's 601 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: looking for what I want to do next, and I'm 602 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: glad that people are interested. And the answer is, I'm 603 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: gonna do new music. I'm gonna do new dope surf 604 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: about beaches, surfboards, waves, It's it's, uh, what is surf about. Um. 605 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: Surf originally was a play on wanting to live in 606 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: La kind of and living in Chicago, and like there's 607 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: obviously no surf culture in Chicago like there is in LA. 608 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: But we were making a lot of wavy music, so um, 609 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: it was kind of uh you feel me, it was 610 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of just an ironic play 611 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: on the word and the idea of surfing and that 612 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: being a culture or part of the culture, and um, 613 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: it just kind of kept growing and changing and evolved thing. 614 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: And then you know, we brought it all to the 615 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: to the collective and we all just been hashing it 616 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: out and it's you know, changed a lot and morphed 617 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: into what it is and and um, yeah, it's just 618 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: all around good vibes about what's happening on that album too. 619 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I feel like people are putting a lot of talk 620 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 1: about great. Um it's a secret. I don't know that like, uh, 621 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: for me, for I think for all of us, it's 622 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: the dopest thing is to create music, right, Like we 623 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: like creating music. That's why we spend time. You know. 624 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is just writing and production collective like 625 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: making music for other people to release because we don't 626 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: necessarily think that maybe the world isn't ready to hear 627 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: it out of my out of my voice, you know 628 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Or maybe the world isn't ready to 629 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: experience it from my platform because it won't they won't 630 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: be able to get to gain access to it, you 631 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like there's there's higher people that 632 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: could use the same songs. So we love just making records, 633 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: and I think the idea behind this project was to 634 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: make music as if we are a production and writing 635 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: collective and like not necessarily focus on making hot records, 636 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: but making stuff that resonates with people on for a 637 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: long time. I think all those songs on the project 638 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: are very uh thematic and cinematic, and every song has 639 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: its own moment on the project. Every time. I think 640 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be able to skip through the project. It's 641 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: very it's attention grabbing from the moment that you hear it. 642 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: None of the people that other than you know what 643 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Donnie Trumpet in the Social Experiment, I listened 644 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: on the project, so you got to kind of listen 645 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: through it to you like special guests, secret verses and stuff. Yeah, 646 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a secret for the listeners. 647 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: It's for the listeners like this project, you know, it's 648 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: it's like car music, headphone music. Like you can listen 649 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: to it in a lot of places. You can listen 650 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: to it with a lot of people. You can also 651 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: listen to it completely by yourself, you know. Just put 652 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, yeah, it also makes stronger exactly though. 653 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to do. Yeah, let it. Let's 654 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: called you should put it out and tweet surfboard. Boom, 655 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: do not listen to him. That's such a good joke. 656 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: You should say it one more time. Okay, Boom, you 657 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: should do a release like Beyonce tweeted out put hashtag surfboard. 658 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: When when you only get these kind of jokes here 659 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: at breakfast club in the morning, me and Charlotte Maine 660 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: taken over. Now that's a good idea. We are from 661 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: a city. How did y'all avoid getting killed in that city? 662 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 1: That's a great I'm scared of Chicago. Yeah, I mean, 663 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: how do y'all avoid not joining gangs, not picking up guns, 664 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: going that rap um? Well, when you're really really young, 665 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: it's not really uh, you know, what I'm saying, much 666 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: of much, too much thought that goes into it, you 667 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you you have to learn 668 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: from the people that are a little bit older than you. So, 669 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: like I think, for the most part, and it might 670 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: be an overstatement, but like I think everybody who lives 671 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: in Chicago at some point throughout a gang, Like everybody 672 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago at some point woke up feeling like you 673 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like they were gang affiliated. 674 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: What number did I don't know. No, it doesn't work 675 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: like that because there's only fives and sets. But the 676 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: point is like different kind of six. Yeah, the hope. 677 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: The only point is uh. I think what we didn't 678 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: understand was that there's different places to get your information from. 679 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: So we created this, uh, this this thing called the staff, 680 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: which is uh collective. It's a collective of myself, people 681 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: from the Social Experiment, artists from Chicago, King Louis, Hannibal Burris, um, 682 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: a lot of different people that I work with, where 683 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: we've created the staff of people that are workers dedicated 684 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, creating opportunities for the you. 685 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: So we do this open mic thing that just started 686 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: we had our second one. We had a lot of 687 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: dope people come and cover it in terms of publications, 688 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: but we do an open mic kind of bi weekly 689 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: for kids in high school. They bring their ID and 690 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: then come up and make a statement. You know what 691 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not necessarily the quickest way to end 692 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Team Violence in Chicago, but 693 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: it's an outlet and we're the people that have a 694 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: real in action to these kids, and people know us 695 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: on a first name basis and can come and have help. 696 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: We also worked on like I said earlier, uh this 697 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: uh this collaboration with the Field Museum and the entire 698 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: museum campus in Chicago to make a free day for 699 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: kids from the South and West Side to come check 700 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: out the museums. So having a father just totally kept you. Yeah, 701 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 1: great father. It's all about the decisions you make at 702 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day, no matter where you are, 703 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, there's gangs and violence 704 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: anywhere you go. It's just about how you deal with it. 705 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: And and I think growing up in Chicago, you know, 706 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: shapes you and molds you into the kind of person 707 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: that a loyal person or a group of like relying 708 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: on your friends is okay, and like, you know, the 709 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: whole idea and gang mentality or whatever has gone completely awry. 710 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: But it didn't start from a terrible, terrible place. It 711 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: started from political place. It started from a uniting place. 712 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: It started from a place of sensitivity, but also a 713 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: place of strength, you know what I mean, trying to 714 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: be protective of your of yourself and your friends around you. 715 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: So I think you know, it's not an invaluable lesson 716 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: that you learned growing up in Chicago. It's just about 717 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: how you deal with with what comes from it. What 718 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: about the ogs in Chicago, your Kanye West and Loupe's 719 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: in common. You do a lot of work with them. 720 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: You're doing something a common right, Yeah, I've worked with Common, 721 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: I've worked with Loupe Twister. I mean, Chicago is a 722 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: very small place, you know what I'm saying. It's not 723 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: I know, New York is very vast and there's a 724 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: lot of greats that have come out of here from 725 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: the different boroughs, and like people have eventually connected over 726 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: hip hop. But Chicago is a type of place where 727 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: more than likely your grandma knows somebody Grandma, you know, 728 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like more than likely you grew up 729 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: down the street from somebody so a small town in 730 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: a big city at the exact time. My grandmother and 731 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: Common's mother are really good friends. For example, so Common 732 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: actually called me when I was a shorty going to 733 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: the library and left a voicemail message about how I 734 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: should keep it up and like keep working on my 735 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: music type. You know what I'm saying. You get the 736 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: best random phone calls. I get the best. My phone 737 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: is let bro for real, Like, I actually do like 738 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: need my phone at all times because you know, you 739 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: never know it's gonna call the president at anytime. It 740 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: could be anybody. No, but uh, do you talk to Brock? 741 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean I saw you in the white would you 742 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: talk to him? Just on some I don't talk to 743 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: Brock that I wish. I don't have an email for 744 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: the president, but I do rock with him. If he 745 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: wants to give me some advice or something, hit my phone. 746 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: Now let's talk Drake. You Drake threw subliminals at each other. 747 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: Is there a question? What's what? What's your relationship with Drake? 748 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: Um me and Drake to Rapper, I don't know that 749 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: I like that I don't know that's not a rapper. 750 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know abody something to that. I mean, uh yeah, 751 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: you might as well like start shotting me out and stuff, 752 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: say my name so people know that you don't know 753 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: who I am. Uh. Me and Drake are cool, though, 754 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: like I've only I've only seen Drake a couple of times. Um. 755 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: The first time we met, we instantly talked about the 756 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: record and he told me that he wanted to collaborate. 757 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: There was a record I was working on a long 758 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: time ago, called Thoughty that I had written for Jake Cole. Um. 759 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: It's a song about thought. Okay, yeah, it's a song 760 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: I'll probably never come out. I don't necessarily feel connected 761 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: to that song like that anymore, but at the time 762 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: it was a hot record. A lot of records like 763 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: that artist in hip hop record get passed around for 764 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Ja Cole because it sound like you wrote a full 765 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: record for j Cole. No no no no no no 766 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: no no. I wrote records. Jay Coole is my is 767 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: a is a good friend of mine. We worked on 768 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff together recently. Yeah yeah, yeah, So 769 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: like while he was working out for his Hill Drive 770 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: and afterwards, like he was one of the closest people 771 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: to the Surf project. He's just always around, you know 772 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like uh recording Donnie and Uh. Jeff 773 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: Giddy from our band actually ended up playing on for 774 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: his Hills Drive to get a little social experiment shout 775 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: out on the project. But that record thought was for 776 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: j Cole Um I had a verse on it. Jay 777 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: Cole's verse never got hurt anyways. That it got circulated, 778 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: and that's what happens in hip hop is like if 779 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: something's dope before it gets released, artists pass it around 780 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: somebody somehow. Drake got it, heard it, he liked it, 781 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: and I think he told me like an intern or 782 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: somebody that he knew had shown him. Like a song 783 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: I made on ten Day on my first mixtape in 784 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty twelve where I made like a mention to Drake. 785 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't even really think it was a disc but 786 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: we talked about it and we were both like, we 787 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't really diss each other, we did want to make 788 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: a song together. We should work. And since then I've 789 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: only seen Drake maybe I saw him once in Chicago. 790 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: He showed out of love. I came through and support 791 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: it and h and I bought that the new album. 792 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: I loved the new album. So yeah, that's me and 793 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: Drake's relationship in the Nut Show. We've seen each other twice. 794 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: You give off a lot of positive energy. Man, you 795 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: ain't Donnie. Thank you though I didn't know what thinks. Man. 796 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: I really thought y'all gonna be some drug using not 797 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: at all idiots, But no, really, I appreciate you too, man, 798 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: because you know what's crazy is when I was coming 799 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: down here, everybody was trying to prep me. They were like, yo, 800 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: Charlemagne's gonna say some crazy stuff to you know what 801 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I think, don't don't profile me yet. 802 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: No proud black man for the people, Charlotte. Man. Now 803 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: can we hear some boss for people who may never 804 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: have heard you rap? Um? Maybe it's a quick sixteen 805 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: you can be we can hear YouTube. Um, there's a 806 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: lot of people that watched this. You know, people watch 807 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: our videos. I know people watch the Breakfast Club. I 808 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: love the Breakfast Club. I don't think I'm gonna rap 809 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club. I think when we get this 810 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: relationship which we are working out, and then we keep 811 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: coming back up and then and then maybe's like, oh man, 812 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. A great artist. Now rap right now, 813 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep looking for the far they tell me 814 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: he got a fat ass. I'm gonna be like, word, 815 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: what I understood his reference. Let's not I know what 816 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: he was saying. I's so homophobic for no reason. But no, 817 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: you got your trumpet? You want to play a little 818 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's really just it's really just for the 819 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: safe money sticker. But he really do got his trumpet? 820 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I carry it. No, we're real players. 821 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: We do this. Yeah, we do this for real. Y'all 822 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: a band like the Roots. Yeah, we're real. We're a 823 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: real band. Players looking for another hot hip hop band. Yeah, 824 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: and like in like ten and fifteen years, they could 825 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: hit us up and want to come to the house 826 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: social experiment. Okay, we appreciate you guys for joining us. Yeah, 827 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: we love being here. Thank you so much. As you 828 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: look great. Envy you the man, Charloe. You're a probably 829 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: black man. I appreciate you. Give us no bars though, bro, 830 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: I didn't give you any bars. But we're gonna come back, right, 831 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in here. It's the first time, 832 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: but it's not the last time to your music until 833 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: you come back. Okay, when when you come? When I 834 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: come back, Oh yeah, you can come, touch of bars, 835 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: all types of stuff. It's gonna be a safe environment, positive, 836 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nobody like the songs I'm 837 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: with Chldi Scampio. I think you like Childish Scambio, right, No, 838 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: you don't know. I mean he's cool, he's all. You 839 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: don't like his music? Not really? All right, you? Chldish 840 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: is my man's really cool? You guys great, one of 841 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: them strongest artists coming out right now. I like the 842 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: huge fan. I liked the whole child Is gamb Be 843 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: no thing. Yeah, you know, but I'm not necessarily like 844 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: a fan of his music. He don't even seem that 845 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: really committed to music I saw. I'm not saying he 846 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: might change his name. I think he was just saying 847 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: that he's got a new chapter opening. I don't really 848 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: know if that means's gonna make different type of music. 849 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: But I'm excited for what he's come back. I know 850 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: that he's dope. I know he's got He was up 851 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: here defending you. He was well, not defended, but he 852 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: was saying you should be making just as much money 853 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: as who was the ge easy yeah or somebody. I mean, 854 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: me and child is very close. He doesn't know how 855 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: much money I make, but like way better and childish 856 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: are both good. But I know what he was trying 857 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: to say. Glad he made the point because I said 858 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: to him, chance, look like he's doing way better than you. 859 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: Easy yeah. I mean we don't know anybody's pocket. I 860 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: don't knowbody who cares. You watched child is gab being 861 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: no does it? It's a good guy though, Yeah, great 862 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: guy in this chance to rapper Donnie Trumpet. We appreciate you, guys. 863 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: His name Trumpet. I thought he was stereo typing you, 864 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: don I thought it was Niko and Donnie. I didn't 865 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: hear Donnie trump and I have lots of me, you 866 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: know there's lots of me. Well, this guy, good job, guys. 867 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you very much. Thank you guys, 868 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: this club. Good morning,