Speaker 1: Hi. I am Joanna Garcia Swisher. I played Free Buffy
Speaker 1: on Gowsome Girl and we're rewatching The Lost Boy. Welcome back, listeners,
Speaker 1: do your one and only source into all things Gossip Girl.
Speaker 1: You know you'll love it. XO XL. Hello, Hi, Hi, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you? Hi? I'm so excited right now? Are you?
Speaker 1: I'm so excited? Um, have you two met Susanna and Joe?
Speaker 1: You know what? I don't know because I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't think so, I don't you know. I think
Speaker 1: it's possible in the Gossip gl world. I feel like
Speaker 1: we probably crossed somewhere crafty, you know, like getting some
Speaker 1: very strong possibility with me. Yes, So it's a pleasure
Speaker 1: to meet you on the big fan and so it's
Speaker 1: a thrill for me to talk to you and welcome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is so fun. It's so fun to I know.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm just looking forward to this afternoon
Speaker 1: just to see your face. I know, we go like
Speaker 1: way back. Like first of all, this is Johnny Garcia,
Speaker 1: who plays Bree Buckley, and we're gonna be rewatching The
Speaker 1: Lost Boy season three, episode three, So I just want
Speaker 1: to introduce you before I thank you start like going
Speaker 1: off about how much I love you and how amazing
Speaker 1: you are. Um. And really the first time we met
Speaker 1: was on Gossip Girl. Yeah we had we had mutual friends,
Speaker 1: but never really because you came to my trailer, knocked
Speaker 1: on the door, and I was like, this is She's
Speaker 1: so sweet, so nice, so friendly, so bubbly and just wonderful.
Speaker 1: And we sat in my trailer and talked and never
Speaker 1: had a scene together. We also worked on the Internship
Speaker 1: and never had a scene together, work together. I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember that. I do. I remember it vividly. I
Speaker 1: was super nervous. I remember um showing up in New
Speaker 1: York and I was I kind of knew people that
Speaker 1: were on the show, but not you know, I was
Speaker 1: just like, what's going on here? And Um, you were
Speaker 1: just the first person I sat with that morning. It
Speaker 1: was like five am and we were in parking that right, yeah,
Speaker 1: at like the polo fields. But I remember just being
Speaker 1: so grateful to you and then you were like, you're
Speaker 1: coming out with us every night. I mean everything just
Speaker 1: pretty much. I love it and it made it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was such a crazy summer for me, like personally too,
Speaker 1: because that's where I met Nick. My husband that two
Speaker 1: days before I started the show, and so it was
Speaker 1: like I was off, like I was on this great show.
Speaker 1: It's all these fun people, and I met my what
Speaker 1: was now my husband? How did you meet How did
Speaker 1: you meet him? We were set up by a mutual friend.
Speaker 1: Nick's ninth grade math tutor from Parkersburg, West Virginia, was
Speaker 1: a manager at the man company that represented me, and
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, it was very weird. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good story. It was weird. And then yeah, totally he
Speaker 1: I remember it was funny. So Chase, it was like
Speaker 1: I said, I was, I was were on the car
Speaker 1: right back to the city and he was like, wait,
Speaker 1: so tell me what's going on. He was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. They're just like setting me up with this
Speaker 1: guy plays for the Yankees. He's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we could get like tickets to the And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could get tickets to the Yankee Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I'm like, but yeah, well, I'm sure we
Speaker 1: could score some seats, but little did we. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now chasing Nick Nick or friends. So he's just a
Speaker 1: lovely human as well, very like carrying and outgoing and
Speaker 1: just he has He's one of those people's who's on it,
Speaker 1: like the smile, like like you too, Joe. Their face
Speaker 1: like there and it's like a genuine smile all the time.
Speaker 1: And I love that. There's like a few people in
Speaker 1: my life that I met have that and you both
Speaker 1: do like literally you'll like look over and you're like
Speaker 1: he's still genuinely just smiling and that's all that's happy guy.
Speaker 1: I love that. It was actually one of the things
Speaker 1: that I love. I know we're not here to talk
Speaker 1: about my love, but um that I loved about him.
Speaker 1: I was like this guy literally like he goes out
Speaker 1: and like smells the grass on a baseball field be cut,
Speaker 1: and he's so grateful. It was so grateful for so
Speaker 1: many things. I thought, that's such a cool quality, especially
Speaker 1: like a young athlete, which I wasn't really sure that
Speaker 1: this was going to be where I was going to be,
Speaker 1: Like what road I was gonna right, So we both
Speaker 1: both ended up with athletes. Yeah, she was with me
Speaker 1: on my first date with It's so interesting. At stage
Speaker 1: we were like jamming out to country music and like
Speaker 1: girl and same. I didn't let me ask, let me
Speaker 1: ask the two of you, is there a what is
Speaker 1: it like, um in terms of do athletes understand actors
Speaker 1: in a special way or is there something that that
Speaker 1: the two disciplines sort of having common pressure. Definitely, I
Speaker 1: think I think no way, we're both perform We're both
Speaker 1: performers on some level. UM. But yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: it's also just like a little bit different alternative of
Speaker 1: you know, it's not for the faint of heart athletics
Speaker 1: or this business. So yeah, I feel like there is
Speaker 1: a lot of UM. I can see why historically there
Speaker 1: have been a lot of athletes with entertainers. Totally. He
Speaker 1: kind of he gets it, even though he doesn't like
Speaker 1: sometimes he's like, I can't believe you don't know your
Speaker 1: call time tomorrow, because athletes know what they're doing every
Speaker 1: day for every year, like he knows he's doing next November.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know if I have a job, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: working honestly or not. So there's like things that he
Speaker 1: doesn't get at all and things that he like, yeah,
Speaker 1: understands like yeah, you know, but it's it's also or
Speaker 1: like Nick doesn't understand like, well, maybe the show won't
Speaker 1: get picked up and He's like, of course the show's
Speaker 1: w get picked up. It's gonna go for seven seasons.
Speaker 1: And You're like, well, that's not really right, do right,
Speaker 1: we'd be super lucky if that were the But I
Speaker 1: do appreciate that, you know, exuberant. Yeah, you know, eternal
Speaker 1: optimism totally. And so did did you introduce Chase and Nick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, and they became like super tight. I
Speaker 1: mean they have a major bro I love that. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so you come on, did you get cast in l
Speaker 1: A and came to New York for it? Yes? So
Speaker 1: this was crazy. So I have I was doing a
Speaker 1: show that one of my favorite shows that I ever did,
Speaker 1: called Privilege, and it got canceled and I got a
Speaker 1: call like, uh a minute later basically saying, you know,
Speaker 1: we want to keep you in the family and we'd
Speaker 1: love for you to do this role. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I felt really old to do, which is crazy. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I was definitely like playing and you know,
Speaker 1: a college graduate nanny at the time. Which is the
Speaker 1: irony is that I was turning thirty the summer that
Speaker 1: I started Gossip Girl. But um, you know, my boobs
Speaker 1: weren't as perky as everyone else's. But I was there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was ready. I was single. Thank you, I think
Speaker 1: were I looked beautiful. Definitely pulled it off, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. I mean, listen, there's a village over there
Speaker 1: that are magicians in that hair and makeup trailer and wardrobe.
Speaker 1: Eric Damon, who I ended up working with Stephanie and
Speaker 1: Eric again on Astronaut Wives. But I remember thinking, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I had just broken up with my very
Speaker 1: serious boyfriend and um, and I got this job to
Speaker 1: go like make out with Chase Crawford for a summer.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that pretty feels like the right move,
Speaker 1: feels like the right career right well, And it's so like,
Speaker 1: just Stephen, hearing you say that out loud, making out
Speaker 1: with Chase Crawford or going out and making out some
Speaker 1: hot dude to New York City, like the fact that
Speaker 1: that's kind of hard job and it's like a real thing,
Speaker 1: Like like I'm gonna go to one of the big
Speaker 1: cities in the world and make up with this hot
Speaker 1: dude while I'm getting over a breakup. Yeah. No, it
Speaker 1: was the perfect place to lick your win and it
Speaker 1: was great. I laugh about that all the time and
Speaker 1: the night, Like I said, I always but I do remember,
Speaker 1: like I was, I was so devastated that privilege got canceled,
Speaker 1: but it was it was a nice, great summer. Was
Speaker 1: the best summer ever. That's great. Yeah, And did you
Speaker 1: watch the show at all before you joined the show?
Speaker 1: So you kind of knew the world of the stuff
Speaker 1: and all the who populated and I and I also
Speaker 1: had been on the c W for so long. It
Speaker 1: went from like you know, well I was on the
Speaker 1: I Wasely Days with Yeah, Seventh Heaven and Buffy, you
Speaker 1: on Reba and then um then you still there, so
Speaker 1: freaking old um, and then it became the c W
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons of Reba, and then I
Speaker 1: got privileged right after that, so I was in that family.
Speaker 1: So I definitely cross paths with everybody, and it was, um,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys were in New York, so it
Speaker 1: was a little bit different, but especially in l A
Speaker 1: or any cross promotional stuff, and we would do these
Speaker 1: like insane galleries. Do you remember those? Did you gay
Speaker 1: shoes at all? Yeah? Where you'd have to like jump
Speaker 1: on like a trampoline and like your hair would be
Speaker 1: flowing and it was like I mean, I really need
Speaker 1: to go find those. They're freaking insane. But it was
Speaker 1: like kind of and it was it was always one
Speaker 1: day and all day, and like you didn't everyone, and
Speaker 1: then it would be like you would do doubles, you
Speaker 1: do singles, and then would be five of you and
Speaker 1: then that, and then I'm like this is wild. And
Speaker 1: then it's kind of what they used for billboards and yeah,
Speaker 1: all of their like teasers, you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: basically getting all of the W b C W like
Speaker 1: stars in one room. Yeah, getting bounce on trampolines together.
Speaker 1: It was it was a lot of fun. We should
Speaker 1: do that again. We should start pitching that. Yes, Galleries,
Speaker 1: it was fun to be a show one to itself.
Speaker 1: That would I remember. It was like, yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: It was fun. There was someone asked a question about
Speaker 1: another show you were on once upon a time. People
Speaker 1: want to know how that was working on there. That
Speaker 1: was amazing. I mean it was. It was a little
Speaker 1: daunting that I. So I was asked to play aerial.
Speaker 1: We were starting to shoot her like she was being
Speaker 1: introduced into the show, like eight or nine weeks postpartum.
Speaker 1: So I showed up on very shaky ground emotionally, Um
Speaker 1: to be in a c shall bikini and um, they
Speaker 1: lined my costume with spanks. I didn't have a belly button.
Speaker 1: It was like, um, yeah, but I remember being really worried.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't I hope that they don't
Speaker 1: you know, tear me apart on the internet, because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not some like quintessential mermaid. But the beauty of
Speaker 1: that moment and the show was incredible. But the beauty
Speaker 1: of that moment was that, you know, you're surrounded by
Speaker 1: so many incredible like talk about you know, costumes and
Speaker 1: hair and makeup and you know, the actors on that
Speaker 1: show and everyone was so wonderful that it's just it
Speaker 1: really taught gave. It taught me a really good lesson
Speaker 1: and like kind of forgetting about what I think I
Speaker 1: look like and um and not worrying so much and
Speaker 1: being like, let's just be this fairytale character. And it
Speaker 1: was like very loving And no one ever made a
Speaker 1: comment to me, um, and certainly not in our little world.
Speaker 1: And I don't read any of the other stuff, so
Speaker 1: I was like very grateful that. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's not overthink it. I just had a baby. So
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. I'm totally Disney princess. That's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. Like it doesn't all have to be so
Speaker 1: like right, absolutely, and see and that's why I love
Speaker 1: Joe because you see how she looks like because it's
Speaker 1: true and we a lot of people need to like
Speaker 1: understand that and be like that because it also makes
Speaker 1: life easier for you. For you if you're just like listen,
Speaker 1: when you can be grateful and put notice on the
Speaker 1: things that you're grateful for, it can really change. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can abuse myself with the best of them. And
Speaker 1: certainly at that time, you're so vulnerable. I mean I
Speaker 1: was breastfeeding, so an emotional your sleeping. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: away from Nick. You know, it was crazy. So yeah
Speaker 1: it was. But it was awesome and it was such
Speaker 1: a fun show and I was able to come back
Speaker 1: the rest of the season's like here in there as
Speaker 1: I had, you know, like when they asked me to
Speaker 1: come back, and it was so great and I just
Speaker 1: loved everybody there. And I also for a good you know,
Speaker 1: the first six years of my oldest daughter's life, Emmy's life,
Speaker 1: she thought I was really like a merrymaid. I love.
Speaker 1: That's really special. That's cool. Oh my gosh, the little ones.
Speaker 1: Are you a great swimmer? And no, I don't even
Speaker 1: get my hair wet. I don't know your tail is
Speaker 1: in there feel that's amazing. Oh my goodness. I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about another show that you worked on.
Speaker 1: Are uh that's a really fun fan favorite? Is as
Speaker 1: Sweet Magnolias? What's that likes? You love that experience. It's
Speaker 1: been a dream come true. I mean it's really came
Speaker 1: out of nowhere in a moment where I had kind
Speaker 1: of just been going from job to job at the
Speaker 1: time and not really feeling totally fulfilled. And um my
Speaker 1: mom had gotten sick, so she um my mom had
Speaker 1: dementia and and died and died with that, but and
Speaker 1: my dad a little did I know was going to
Speaker 1: die very shortly after I started the show. But the
Speaker 1: show is just so human and it's so sweet and beautiful,
Speaker 1: and um I love the people that I'm working with.
Speaker 1: And it was an unexpected success. I mean not that
Speaker 1: I don't hope for the best for all of the
Speaker 1: things that I'm a part of, but um, I didn't
Speaker 1: imagine that it would be that that it was that way,
Speaker 1: like it was top ten way yeah right away, like
Speaker 1: people were so excited, and but I get it. I
Speaker 1: remember when it came out and I dialed in and
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's yeah, there's something about it and there's
Speaker 1: like a freshness to it as well, like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very wholesome. And I remember someone asking me in an interview.
Speaker 1: Now people know the show and we just finished our
Speaker 1: third season a couple of weeks ago. Um, they were like, so,
Speaker 1: how has it been working on a show where you
Speaker 1: talk about religion and God? And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: these it's it's a beautiful thing. And if you watch
Speaker 1: our show, there's nothing it's so inclusive and so much
Speaker 1: about love, and yes, they're very godfaring people and there
Speaker 1: they go to church and um, and they have this
Speaker 1: set of beliefs that are to me, you know, it
Speaker 1: resonates with me in a lot of ways. But I
Speaker 1: just thought, well, there's there's a place for this. There's
Speaker 1: a place for you know, this is the best of
Speaker 1: what people who dedicate you know, you know, are dedicated
Speaker 1: to their faith. And so I I'm like, there's just
Speaker 1: no reason to shy away from that. And I understand
Speaker 1: it can be like a little bit uncomfortable and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But I think it really just
Speaker 1: hit home with people. Admit felt it's very human and
Speaker 1: so um, I think the more we dive into it,
Speaker 1: the more you see that there's more of that humanity
Speaker 1: in it. And our goal was always has always been
Speaker 1: to just for everyone to be able to see themselves
Speaker 1: living in that town. So, yeah, Wulman Buckley And then
Speaker 1: and oh my god, and you have a lovely active
Speaker 1: plays your mother. Yes, Caroline, I love she looks a
Speaker 1: lot like what I imagine my mom would look like. Now.
Speaker 1: She's got this these like light eyes and really like
Speaker 1: white blonde hair, and she's kind of like out there
Speaker 1: and artistic. And my mom was all of those things.
Speaker 1: And she was also a Southern My mom was very
Speaker 1: Southern woman. And we have some really intensely emotional scenes
Speaker 1: together that are almost impossible for us to get through.
Speaker 1: But a lot of it is, you know, sometimes there's
Speaker 1: just they'll just be things that are that are written
Speaker 1: in the script or especially in scenes between the two
Speaker 1: of us, that nobody would have any reason to believe
Speaker 1: that this would for instance, like someone being allergic to mango, Well,
Speaker 1: my mom was allergic to mango. It's not something I've
Speaker 1: ever shared with anybody, but it's in the script and
Speaker 1: it's like almost this like weird channeling. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: yeah it is. They're very much I feel both of
Speaker 1: my mom and my dad so much and um and
Speaker 1: everything that I do. But it's really fun in those
Speaker 1: moments and Caroline, Carolin and I get those like great
Speaker 1: times together. She's wild. Yeah, I love her. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: she's an amazing I saw her on stage here in
Speaker 1: New York and uh, she's a real powerhouse too. It's
Speaker 1: like she's an extraordinary Yeah, I lost my mom in
Speaker 1: And it's interesting with Sometimes you create a relationship with
Speaker 1: another actor who kind of, you know, steps into a
Speaker 1: maternal role with you, and you're you're making that on
Speaker 1: screen or on stage, it's actually kind of answering something
Speaker 1: in your soul, you know. So it actually becomes a
Speaker 1: more almost a deeper, more profound experience playing out those relationships.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. That it's really beautiful. It's very healing in
Speaker 1: a way. And um, I take a lot of comfort
Speaker 1: in our relationship that. Yeah, I love that. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you um now that uh, we're sort of watching
Speaker 1: this episode of season three, Episode three of Gossipel Altogether.
Speaker 1: What does it feel like watching the show after I'm
Speaker 1: assume it's been a minute. Does it stir up a
Speaker 1: lot of memories that are you? Is it something you
Speaker 1: really remember in detail? Or was it kind of just
Speaker 1: a fun summer that's all awash? No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I was absolutely not all awatched. Um no, I mean
Speaker 1: it was. It's really fun to the show is so
Speaker 1: interesting because obviously it was in a moment, like the
Speaker 1: flip phones are so fun to like see and how
Speaker 1: much our world has changed in such a small amount
Speaker 1: of time. Um, but it's still is so like delicious,
Speaker 1: it is wildly entertaining, and it's just got this special
Speaker 1: like beautiful. I mean it hit a nerve for a
Speaker 1: million reasons, Like there's not much like it. There hasn't
Speaker 1: been anything like it. It's just wildly entertaining. And I
Speaker 1: love the all like it just you know, shameful, basically
Speaker 1: willing to like Georgina's characters out of comfortable. I was
Speaker 1: like this girl, she's not afraid. No. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love all of it. I love the champagne. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that they like know what vintage of
Speaker 1: Champagne that they love at like they're aids. It's like
Speaker 1: so absurd, it's absurd. I'm like, I'll take the whatever.
Speaker 1: Pinot noir. Yeah. In this particular episode, you have you
Speaker 1: pull up in that limo at the end. You have
Speaker 1: that kind of great scene towards the end and it's
Speaker 1: like the limo window rolls down and it's like that
Speaker 1: kind of that portrayal of that, like you know that
Speaker 1: kind of just super Yeah, but I'm going to stretch
Speaker 1: limo and then I'm like, you know how much Daddy
Speaker 1: likes to hunt, And I'm just like, yes, yes, so
Speaker 1: you guys came off of the helicopter you and yes, yes,
Speaker 1: those kind of things. Um, okay, So here's where we
Speaker 1: left off. After are publicly embarrassing Georgina at the party,
Speaker 1: Blair then retreats into Chuck's arms while Dan spends the
Speaker 1: night with Georgina and Serena finally admits that she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go to college just yet. So that's where
Speaker 1: we're we've left off, and then where we left off
Speaker 1: episode and today it's uh. In this episode, um, it's
Speaker 1: a major Upper east Side face off. Of course, when
Speaker 1: blare and Chuck both set their side in a particular
Speaker 1: item forbid at Southeby's, and the personal stakes are also
Speaker 1: really high, So we have this major auction storyline here. Um. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Serena suspects that Carter maybe up to his old habits
Speaker 1: of being not completely honest with her, and Georgina takes
Speaker 1: an interest in Dan, and Vanessa begins to suspect that
Speaker 1: something isn't quite right with Scott. So we have a
Speaker 1: lot of Scott of juicy Scott stuff here. Um, Lalie
Speaker 1: Breeze true intentions with Nate are secretly revealed and related
Speaker 1: to Carter and his exploits. We have that fantastic which
Speaker 1: is a big turn. Again, I had like didn't rem
Speaker 1: for that that. I was shocked by all of that. Again,
Speaker 1: even in my mind when I'm watching something, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they can't pull one on me. I know what Gossip
Speaker 1: Girls doing now, Like I've watched it, I've had the strips.
Speaker 1: I'm a part of the show, and I'll like try
Speaker 1: to outthink like okay, and I'm still like, would have
Speaker 1: never put connection with Brie with Carter basine this, So
Speaker 1: I'm saying they still pull stuff out like they're not
Speaker 1: going right. That was a nice surprise to bring that
Speaker 1: together at the end. UM. So it was the last
Speaker 1: episode I think where we saw Brie and Nate sort
Speaker 1: of having the romantic get away at the apartment, right
Speaker 1: the fact that, Yeah, and Nate had kept that boarding
Speaker 1: pass from the airplane, which was a very sweet thing.
Speaker 1: And so we kind of are seeing this relationship developed
Speaker 1: in private and then sort of be taken out into
Speaker 1: the public eye totally. And I like you too. I Mean,
Speaker 1: I know there's like a lot of fire around everything
Speaker 1: going on, but I really am liking Brie and Nate
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. And when you asked me in the
Speaker 1: last episode, let me see your pants, I want to
Speaker 1: see the wallet, I'm like, oh my god. Like that
Speaker 1: was a moment where I thought like, Okay, something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna get busted. And then it was such a sweet,
Speaker 1: nice thing, like yeah, yeah, it was so super romantic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fan feedback and people asking
Speaker 1: questions about your chemistry. So the Breen Nate chemistry, which
Speaker 1: is just really unstoppable and undeniable. So what did it
Speaker 1: feel like working with Chase and developing that, Um, that dynamic.
Speaker 1: And you know, what was your personal take on Bri
Speaker 1: and Nate. I mean, I had a black It was fun.
Speaker 1: I love and like I said, I love I love
Speaker 1: Chase so much, so I think the chemistry was was
Speaker 1: we have this very you know, lovely like ease about
Speaker 1: each other I and still do to this day. So
Speaker 1: that was easy. That was a no brainer. And obviously
Speaker 1: it was just so much fun because I knew or
Speaker 1: I know where my character's headed, um, so it was
Speaker 1: just kind of fun to really play into, um, this
Speaker 1: kind of swooping romance. And then you know, this is
Speaker 1: the turn obviously where you see that Bree maybe there
Speaker 1: for other reasons, um, gathering some information and trying to
Speaker 1: save her own towel in the process. But I mean
Speaker 1: that was Chases like, as you know, he's just a
Speaker 1: very likable human and a wonderful guy and very easy
Speaker 1: on the eyes and so and he's also a dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I don't Yeah, and I know that's
Speaker 1: going to resonate. You're like sometimes you're like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: give me some and he got all that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of he is. I always thought like Special Angel
Speaker 1: would just descend into the room and it was Chase
Speaker 1: crossing presence. That's the first time my husband played golf
Speaker 1: with him. He was like, man, I really feel for him.
Speaker 1: I was like, you feel for Chase, and he's like,
Speaker 1: the way that women attack him, and it's very true.
Speaker 1: It's abusive, it's like it's like almost shocking, and he
Speaker 1: felt he felt very like defensive towards for Chase. He
Speaker 1: was like, I got you, bro, I you know, I'll
Speaker 1: take care of you. Because he was like, this is
Speaker 1: not normal the way women like flock and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very true girls all over anywhere you are. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know sometimes if they know it's him
Speaker 1: from Gossip Girl. And he's like, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: just just like I mean, I think it's obviously Gossip Girl,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's not it's so funny. It's so funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nick was really like, I just felt I felt for him.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well, yeah, he's gonna get through it.
Speaker 1: But when you see it, somehow he'll pull through. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but it's good that it's good that you're being a
Speaker 1: good friend making sure you beat him off with a stick. Okay,
Speaker 1: So in this beginning part, which I have to jump
Speaker 1: to this because I was like mortified last night watching this.
Speaker 1: Not mortified, I shouldn't take your advice, let it go whatever.
Speaker 1: When Vanessa pops her head out of the door and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, I thought I heard your voices, I
Speaker 1: somehow like had something in my mouth. I rewatched it
Speaker 1: like three times. I'm like, did they use that cut?
Speaker 1: And I don't know how this came back to me?
Speaker 1: But because it was the camera was on the door,
Speaker 1: so it was Penn's coverage. I don't think I knew
Speaker 1: that I was coming out that soon. So when they,
Speaker 1: you know how the A D will be like and
Speaker 1: go go. You know I had a mint in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Oh I can see that because I and you remember
Speaker 1: I do, because I remember thinking there was no way
Speaker 1: to get rid of it when I turned when my
Speaker 1: back is on the camera, so I kept it in,
Speaker 1: which is probably actually, now that I think of it,
Speaker 1: rude of me to have had it in. But I
Speaker 1: don't think I knew I was being called at that moment,
Speaker 1: so I literally have like, I'm gonna go back and
Speaker 1: watch it. I know that's a good tidbit. I like that,
Speaker 1: But I was like the fact that they used that
Speaker 1: cut anyways, Well, it's very natural, you know, Vanessa could
Speaker 1: be shooting on something. Yeah, yeah, like you were like,
Speaker 1: you know, got I went to get some dental work
Speaker 1: right right before the scene started. Um, I get caught
Speaker 1: with candy in my mouth all the time, or like,
Speaker 1: that's just like you're too old to do that. But
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that. So but I havn't to go
Speaker 1: back and I didn't notice it either, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, why did I sound like that? That doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like you know when you can tell like there's
Speaker 1: a d R. It was like one of those things.
Speaker 1: So I clicked it and then I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: definitely had a mint in my mouth, and we'll never
Speaker 1: do that. People realize how much a d R they're watching,
Speaker 1: so we see that, I think because we're used to it.
Speaker 1: I can't watch TV without pointing out a d R.
Speaker 1: But I totally don't realize how much that happens, And
Speaker 1: it happened a lot on this show because of being
Speaker 1: outdoor stuff. Yeah, and the city is impossible to shoot in,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I feel like there was a moment in
Speaker 1: this episode I noticed of that. But I feel like,
Speaker 1: the top of this episode is so shocking because we
Speaker 1: start with Georgina and Dan mid Ye shots on top
Speaker 1: of her and I love it. I love it. And
Speaker 1: Blair walks in, so it's like already from the get
Speaker 1: You're already like whoa. When all of a sudden, Vanessa
Speaker 1: comes out with with a mint in her mouth. What
Speaker 1: is she doing in that room? He's like that sock
Speaker 1: on the door, and I like, watch that is it?
Speaker 1: The word it's the grossest sock you've ever seen in
Speaker 1: your life? Was who dance? So definitely it was it definitely.
Speaker 1: I thought it took me a minute, bumped me because
Speaker 1: I thought, wait, which one of the girls socks is that? Like? Who?
Speaker 1: For sure? Neither of them on that sock? No, that
Speaker 1: is hilarious because it was a gross sock. It was
Speaker 1: like kind of tan brown, it just thick, like it
Speaker 1: looks like it had rips maybe, But how about Blair
Speaker 1: having them glove on top of it. She's like, I
Speaker 1: had a glove on and I still want to wash
Speaker 1: my hands, and I'm like, yeah, glove, it's pretty fantastic,
Speaker 1: But how about this she he walks out, and of
Speaker 1: course he runs into Serena like even he says it,
Speaker 1: I think he's like, what with this shirt of you know,
Speaker 1: I mean like it's always she's always catching people or
Speaker 1: you know, Serena is like always in the right or
Speaker 1: wrong place at the right time. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it's all the right place, yeah, the right place. So yeah,
Speaker 1: she's seen that. How do you guys feel about the
Speaker 1: Dan and Georgina of it? Because I don't. I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't like it. It's kind of
Speaker 1: cringeworthy to me. I don't know. It's not like the
Speaker 1: last episode and this one. It's like we obviously Georgina
Speaker 1: is still a scheme or heart and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: but her, you know, the fact that you can tell
Speaker 1: that she's really into him, and then Serena points out,
Speaker 1: you know, like you better let her know that you
Speaker 1: don't like her as much as she likes you. Like
Speaker 1: there is a little bit of like a like a
Speaker 1: sad baby lamb aspect of Georgina that we've seen the
Speaker 1: last two episodes. Um so I feel like you have
Speaker 1: to keep reminding yourself for bigger picture, you know, her
Speaker 1: end game, because in the moment I start feeling for
Speaker 1: her and also feel like in this episode hair and makeup,
Speaker 1: was she looked the amazing Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, she
Speaker 1: looks so pretty. But it was also so understated. Like
Speaker 1: usually Georgina has a sharp look, you know, she has
Speaker 1: a lot of jewelry on or a lot of like fashions,
Speaker 1: and in this the kind of you version of Georgina
Speaker 1: was so relatable and like, you know, really kind of
Speaker 1: almost sweet looking. So I was kind of falling for
Speaker 1: it a little. I felt a little bit for her
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Yeah, well I did. Last episode,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was saying that, like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: like she's she really does want a fresh start, and
Speaker 1: that's why I like when Vanessa's like, listen, we're all
Speaker 1: starting new. She wants it, we want it. Let's give
Speaker 1: her a chance. I felt that this one, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know what the letter. That was
Speaker 1: a shocking moment to me again at the end of
Speaker 1: this episode, and so it's not even about that. There
Speaker 1: was just one point I'm like, I just I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. This episode is a little bit rubs you
Speaker 1: the wrong one. Yeah. I loved at the end when
Speaker 1: she got busted and she was like, listen, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: That was before we hooked up, and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, like like, now that we've hooked up, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do these terrible things, right, that's true,
Speaker 1: that's really funny. Yeah, that's too much for us to bear. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's like this sort of early in this episode two,
Speaker 1: we kind of get this. Um, we're reminded of the
Speaker 1: Scott situation, which is like sort of Vanessa's obsession in
Speaker 1: this this couple episodes, is you know this this new
Speaker 1: relationship she has, and it's like he keeps being wrong
Speaker 1: about his course work, so it's like he almost immediately
Speaker 1: this episode we find out that he is claiming to
Speaker 1: be in a class at at the wrong time. So
Speaker 1: obviously there's something going on, and she starts she's starting
Speaker 1: to really sense it, and I feel like, kind of,
Speaker 1: but what point in this episode does she actually get
Speaker 1: the idea? Wait, he doesn't. Does he even go to
Speaker 1: n y U because she goes says something, Yeah, Dan
Speaker 1: says something like about the timing of your Yeah, the classes, right,
Speaker 1: It's like my so and so said, it's really hard
Speaker 1: to get in there. I thought it was the afternoon
Speaker 1: something like that. And then something goes off in Vanessa
Speaker 1: his head, Joe, do you know the story with Scott
Speaker 1: Do you remember because we've been watching it, so he's
Speaker 1: obviously the love child. Yes, he's the love child, but
Speaker 1: I don't remember where it goes. So now like, wait,
Speaker 1: I gotta watch that. I gotta get I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and bench the rest too, because I
Speaker 1: was it does it just it stands up like my
Speaker 1: friend came here earlier today and I like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? And I was like, I'm just rewatching some
Speaker 1: Goss special. I'll watch it with you. And I was like,
Speaker 1: it's like one of those shows you can pick up
Speaker 1: like in a matter of no time. Just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll watching rewatch it. It's so entertaining. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know where it goes. I don't remember exactly where
Speaker 1: it goes, but I do I do know who he is.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and he comes clean to Vanessa in this episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he at the end of season two. I just
Speaker 1: want to tell you this to like, as we go
Speaker 1: on about this storyline, Rufus tries to find their son,
Speaker 1: goes to the adopted the adopted family and they tell
Speaker 1: Rufus that he so Rufus thinks that this child that
Speaker 1: he had that he never knew brother, No there is, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: we find out later that in this episode that there
Speaker 1: were two sons. I mean they adopted one to one
Speaker 1: died and it happened right before Rufus, you know, approached them,
Speaker 1: and so they just said that was the that that
Speaker 1: was the birth son and when it really it was
Speaker 1: the other one. And so I think the mom later
Speaker 1: in this episode kind of clarifies that she's like, we
Speaker 1: were so grief stricken about your brother's death that, you know,
Speaker 1: we went ahead and we didn't want to lose you,
Speaker 1: so we just lied. And so it's like this kind
Speaker 1: of complicated thing where it's like there is a dead brother,
Speaker 1: but it's not and Rufus is the real dad, but
Speaker 1: him in this scene when he's getting the guitar lesson
Speaker 1: from Rufus, that's that's pretty ballsy to do, Like this
Speaker 1: is your real dad. You're dating essentially, like Vanessa's kind
Speaker 1: of like a daughter to Rufus. You're dating him. You've
Speaker 1: been around your half brother. So what do you guys
Speaker 1: think about that when you find out he's getting like
Speaker 1: guitar lessons? I get it, But that has to be
Speaker 1: such a wild emotional situation. You're sitting there with your
Speaker 1: biological father that doesn't know it's him. This is a
Speaker 1: whole world where all of your half siblings live, Yes,
Speaker 1: all of them live in the win place. The kind
Speaker 1: of do though, Yeah, Yeah, to me, there's a good
Speaker 1: mix of creepy and sweet. You know, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. The letter, the letter really threw
Speaker 1: me for a loop. Do we get any more? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the letter from his article, I think he was
Speaker 1: just trying any way to get in. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1: So it's not as creepy. That's there is a creepy
Speaker 1: feeling I get. I get a vibe picking up a vibe. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like Vanessa finds out he basically comes clean
Speaker 1: to Vanessa, so she has the info, but she's encouraging
Speaker 1: him to tell Rufus. And then in the interim she's
Speaker 1: kind of telling Dan, oh, he's not who he says
Speaker 1: he is. So then Dan is getting the idea, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a creepy stocker. He wrote me this letter. And
Speaker 1: because Georgina's in Dan's life, she of course butts in
Speaker 1: and so they started digging, so now they you know,
Speaker 1: they discover his real name and the fact that he's
Speaker 1: the one who wrote this fan letter. So it's like
Speaker 1: stuff is coming to light for different people, but nobody
Speaker 1: has the full story in this episode except for Vanessa.
Speaker 1: And then it's like all of a sudden, she spends
Speaker 1: the whole episode armed with this information and kind of
Speaker 1: stuck in the middle. And I gotta say this to me.
Speaker 1: This was the episode where like Vanessa is on trial
Speaker 1: here because you're like, what are you doing? Also, he
Speaker 1: never when he when he when he admits it to her,
Speaker 1: he's not particularly apologetic, like you know about about her feelings,
Speaker 1: you know, right, he said, if you have any feelings
Speaker 1: for me, then you won't you won't do it, very abusive.
Speaker 1: And then also I was like, I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: to get out of here. I didn't come clean, and
Speaker 1: you're still going to keep my secret. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a big secret for Vanessa to have and keep. Like
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I was like very like bothered by that.
Speaker 1: That was like wild. When he's like, yeah, just if
Speaker 1: you if you have any feelings for me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't really think she has any feeling she doesn't
Speaker 1: even know what her feelings are now because she's so confused,
Speaker 1: just like Blue shipped up in front of her face.
Speaker 1: That's like insane. Yes, absolutely, you know it really speaks
Speaker 1: too to Vanessa's strength slash weakness or you know, you've
Speaker 1: talked a lot before about this idea that Vanessa is
Speaker 1: always disappointing, disappointed with stuff. Everybody's disappointing her all the time,
Speaker 1: and that really happens in this episode. And I thought
Speaker 1: you played Jess. I thought you played that scene so beautifully.
Speaker 1: When there's a moment he's kind of hugging you and
Speaker 1: you having you're getting so emotional, and it's like you
Speaker 1: can see that there's this deep disappointment in having found
Speaker 1: herself in this position. But the heart of that character
Speaker 1: that you brought to it, you know, is um is
Speaker 1: still in the lead because that he is still able
Speaker 1: to come to Vanessa and say I need your help,
Speaker 1: I need you to go with me, and she's still
Speaker 1: there for him. So it's like to me, it's that
Speaker 1: sort of beautiful, pure heartedness of Vanessa which both hurts
Speaker 1: her and makes her really a beautiful inspirational character, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like I feel like that here, very nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I don't remember what happens or what she does
Speaker 1: with that. I know I'm looking worried to find out
Speaker 1: because you also are. Now you're keeping a secret from
Speaker 1: someone that you really do from Rufus. You know he
Speaker 1: doesn't ultimately know, and you know how much it means
Speaker 1: to him. So I really need to know more about
Speaker 1: how this turns out. I do too. I mean, what
Speaker 1: would you guys do in that situation? Do you go
Speaker 1: and tell I don't know, I'd sittell Rufus, I would
Speaker 1: tell us. I think i'd tell Ruth. I know, I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think Rufus has got to know. That's what I should say.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how I would go about doing that,
Speaker 1: but I'd be like, you know, Rufus has to Rufus
Speaker 1: got to know this is his son and you and
Speaker 1: he and Rufus actively like wanted to know this information.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's like, you know, he was none
Speaker 1: the wiser and didn't care. He's like, you know, he
Speaker 1: went he was like on the shout. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: like going to different cities, calling all these agencies, like
Speaker 1: he was like really trying. Yeah, I think I would
Speaker 1: have blurted it out, you know, in that moment when
Speaker 1: he was like, Um, actually I'm the brother of the
Speaker 1: kid that You're like, oh hell no no, and then
Speaker 1: like no, I look like each other. I know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not right. But it's funny because, like everything in
Speaker 1: this episode comes to a climax at the South of
Speaker 1: East Auction. So I guess the reason that fundamentally we're
Speaker 1: there is that I mean, I guess Rufus has a
Speaker 1: painting to buy for Lily or a photograph, and then
Speaker 1: I have a crazy plot line with Um basically, but
Speaker 1: it all starts with Chuck and Blair because they have
Speaker 1: this plot line about Um. She feels neglected by him
Speaker 1: because he's chasing this business opportunity and he, in order
Speaker 1: to impress this business prospect, wants to get this Patrick
Speaker 1: McMullen is a photo and then Um and then she uh,
Speaker 1: she wants the same photo in order to get into
Speaker 1: a secret society, which at the end is really yes,
Speaker 1: we find out that that really was a ruse set
Speaker 1: in motion by Georgina because you know, she can never
Speaker 1: be without her scheming. But Um, all of all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, we all find our selves at the auction together,
Speaker 1: which is a typical kind of gossip girl trope, but um,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because you have this kind of constant storyline
Speaker 1: so far in season three of Chuck and Blair find
Speaker 1: you know, by the way, my favorite one of my
Speaker 1: favorite hearts of the episode. Yes, when she they're hooking
Speaker 1: up and she takes his shoes. I'm like, that's so good.
Speaker 1: She's like, it's to Rhoda dry cleaning. He says something
Speaker 1: that she literally scuttered out, and he's like, Oh, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is freaking genius. You never would have I don't. Definitely,
Speaker 1: It's like feeling the shoes was key, Yeah, shoes. It
Speaker 1: was like a genius, genius move. Hilarious. God love just
Speaker 1: so much Savvan I ever will be. Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: way Chuck likes that, He's like, did she she took
Speaker 1: my shoes? Yeah? Yeah, that was cute. What's going on
Speaker 1: with Serena Carterter here in terms of Carter's money troubles
Speaker 1: and he's just that bill that comes into play. What
Speaker 1: exactly was the situation there when you saw the girl
Speaker 1: come up to him in the street and was like
Speaker 1: calling out him on his drink and that they hooked
Speaker 1: up last week? Did you guys feel like Like I
Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure what to think at that point. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why would that be happening? Like, why is a girl
Speaker 1: coming up? Like that's a rude thing to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're with it, if you see a guy with
Speaker 1: a great nu yeah it's wild. Yeah, it seemed a little,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't occur to me that it
Speaker 1: was contrived at the time. I just was like, I know,
Speaker 1: I believe that he didn't do that, but I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: like what this, what's going to come of this? And
Speaker 1: again Chuck and Blair setting all these things up for him,
Speaker 1: the bill at the hotel, the room service, all the
Speaker 1: things for them to protect Serena. That's again where I
Speaker 1: always say their friendship is so like solid to me
Speaker 1: because they will go as far as to do ship
Speaker 1: like that, to like protect each other, like just like
Speaker 1: calling the cops, Like I was like, who's your contact
Speaker 1: at the precincts? Like what did you know? That's right?
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm calling my guy at the precinct Hilarious.
Speaker 1: I need I need a guy, Like yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's genius. But we keep seeing kind of Serena almost
Speaker 1: like buying into like her friends are trying to show
Speaker 1: her about Carter, and then they keep kind of coming
Speaker 1: up for air and like making up. So like again
Speaker 1: here they have they kind of come together at the end, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, I like this kind of like
Speaker 1: they've got like yeah, okay, like I don't know, there's
Speaker 1: something there that I'm very into. Yeah, I am too,
Speaker 1: because I'm believing that he really, Carter is really changing.
Speaker 1: I know, Blair's like people like him don't change. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, I like these two. I'm into this right now.
Speaker 1: They're wildly charismatic individuals separately. Together You're like, uh huh exactly,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm gonna lean into this one. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, And there's kind of a cool, like
Speaker 1: a I don't know, just like an ease of their
Speaker 1: like what makes them so fantastic and fabulous that matches,
Speaker 1: so they look like they make a good couple. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they have their kind of situation that also kind
Speaker 1: of comes to a head at this auction, and we
Speaker 1: realized that Serena buys the picture to punish Blair and
Speaker 1: Chuck because she realizes they've been undercutting and not sabotaging
Speaker 1: carter Um And how sweet is it that Blair throws
Speaker 1: the card because she's love she was just gonna let
Speaker 1: it be. That was so sweet a Flair. I really
Speaker 1: didn't see that. I thought, if anything, Chuck was going
Speaker 1: to have to give it up because Blair's that was
Speaker 1: cut usually yeah, yeah she is. Yeah, that was very cute.
Speaker 1: And then Serena basically gets Georgina in the end by
Speaker 1: orchestrating everybody to eat dinner, and like she's left in
Speaker 1: the dust, like, yeah, I did anybody just Dan didn't
Speaker 1: see her, like really like walking out of the door,
Speaker 1: just literally the door closes and she's like I'm here,
Speaker 1: Like did did they? I don't know how they avoided that,
Speaker 1: but it was so sad. I mean she did, she
Speaker 1: did a bad thing, but she just keep getting and
Speaker 1: then she's looking to go to Boston, like she's going
Speaker 1: into that whole situation over. Here's Vanessa talking to you
Speaker 1: at my dorm, Scott, so she knows what's up there.
Speaker 1: And then the other obviously reveal we get here is
Speaker 1: um is you girls free? Is because there's that moment
Speaker 1: of eavesdropping. We see a moment of eavesdropping at the event,
Speaker 1: and then we have the fambulist limo moment. So like,
Speaker 1: what exactly what did you hear? Again? I heard about
Speaker 1: them talking about Carter. Serena and Chuck and Blair were
Speaker 1: talking and Serena finds out that he was going all
Speaker 1: over to look for her father. Yes, oh right, um okay,
Speaker 1: which is a big thing. And that's another reason I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. He was actually like really
Speaker 1: trying to get the one thing that Serena really really
Speaker 1: want and that's to see her dad or father. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you hear that? Yeah, what, I literally have zero
Speaker 1: idea of what you got with Carter. Do you remember
Speaker 1: we have we have we have family history, Like we
Speaker 1: have a connection that I'm on the outs as well
Speaker 1: with my family. I come from like oil money, and
Speaker 1: I need a way back in, and so by throwing
Speaker 1: him under the bus, it's going to be exactly what
Speaker 1: I need to get into the good graces of my family. Again,
Speaker 1: so I've done something bad too. So you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: your family that you've spotted him. You know where he is?
Speaker 1: That I've yeah, this is I'm going to use this
Speaker 1: in my relationship and proximity to gather information to basically
Speaker 1: take down Carter. Okay, so the relationship with Nate is
Speaker 1: not genuine at all, Well, I think it. It becomes
Speaker 1: really hard because you end up I think, yeah, she
Speaker 1: falls for her girl. I'm liking you as you're playing
Speaker 1: that you two have this chemistry and that yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't see it at all. You do so beautifully. Is
Speaker 1: like it's not we don't see it coming. We don't
Speaker 1: know that you're going to be a two timer in
Speaker 1: any way. Yeah, so like that, you know that it
Speaker 1: comes as a surprise, which is beautifully done. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like you did such a great job of
Speaker 1: illustrating this character because she's you know, she has a
Speaker 1: little bit of the stantoffishness or like the kind of
Speaker 1: you know how at the beginning they're kind of poking
Speaker 1: at each other and being a little bit um you know,
Speaker 1: playfully aggressive, and then also you really see beyond that
Speaker 1: and see them start of falling for each other too,
Speaker 1: So it's you know, and so you kind of start
Speaker 1: to really root for them as a couple and then
Speaker 1: find your motive. Yeah, And even knowing that now, I'm
Speaker 1: still like, well what I'm seeing now? I like and
Speaker 1: you guys, how about the entrance, everyone entering the it
Speaker 1: was so stuff going on with the paparazzis and stuff. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: Scott and Vanessa like he's going to meet and tell
Speaker 1: his logical father. Then Blair's like on a mission to
Speaker 1: get the picture. Serena's like in this hot little dress
Speaker 1: coming back, like walking in like there was just there
Speaker 1: was some so hot, right, so many moments it was
Speaker 1: so But that's what I'm saying. I'm like, we I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess sex in the City. And it's like Glory
Speaker 1: Days had like very similar like these just absurd kind
Speaker 1: of like maybe even Beverly Hills night or two in
Speaker 1: a way back in the day, but there's like no
Speaker 1: one did it, like Gossip Girl one point, right, they
Speaker 1: just crushed it and they really did it. It's true,
Speaker 1: there's certain things that you're like, this is crazy and
Speaker 1: absurd and wild, but it's grounded, so it works. It's
Speaker 1: very grounded. I think that's the video of it. Also,
Speaker 1: like even the way that it all I almost look
Speaker 1: at as like a crime, like a crime board a bullet. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh, and that one's gonna go there,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna bring that person in and it's
Speaker 1: gonna go like that. And to me, that's where like
Speaker 1: the genius of really well done shows the why and
Speaker 1: working with incredible more than anything, incredible writer, it's like that,
Speaker 1: you know, just having people like Josh and Stephanie. I mean,
Speaker 1: Stephanie's brilliant, it's priceless, and then you have these great
Speaker 1: directors that are really fighting for these performances. And then
Speaker 1: obviously you have the actors who you get to enjoy
Speaker 1: and see and they're the obvious reasons to kind of
Speaker 1: like be like, this is why it's working, and it
Speaker 1: just it's when it all comes together. It's lightning in
Speaker 1: a bottle, and that that's what the show is. Lightning
Speaker 1: in a bottle. Yeah, it's true about the Sex in
Speaker 1: the City reference, and like in Sex in the City,
Speaker 1: there's this idea of New York City as a character
Speaker 1: and obviously that's very true here and Gossip Girl too.
Speaker 1: And at the towards the end of this episode, we
Speaker 1: see that Chuck is going to purchase the Empire Hotel,
Speaker 1: which I think is such a it's such a funny
Speaker 1: part of the episode because that's a real hotel. You know,
Speaker 1: people I think come from far and wide to stay
Speaker 1: at Chuck's Hotel and you know, and they definitely it's
Speaker 1: like a spot. It's like a spot on the Gossip roll,
Speaker 1: you know, tour on the map. And you know, they
Speaker 1: used to have um a bar in the lobby because
Speaker 1: they have like a roof bar too, but the bar
Speaker 1: in the lobby always had cocktails named after characters from
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl. And yes, I love the moments. I felt
Speaker 1: coolest in life was that they had a Derota and
Speaker 1: I was like, what was it was like it had
Speaker 1: to be a voka, like a Polish vodka martini. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which makes sense. Yeah, I went and they did have
Speaker 1: a Vanessa Abrams. Oh yeah they did. What was the
Speaker 1: Vanessa Abram? Honestly, I feel like it was like a Gin,
Speaker 1: which was oh, I would have said tequila. I feel
Speaker 1: like it was Jen because I remember being like, I
Speaker 1: can't even have it because I don't like Gin, Like
Speaker 1: I can't have the dress Vanessa because but I thought
Speaker 1: that was cute that they did that so cute. That
Speaker 1: is great. By the way, it's genius on their part,
Speaker 1: genius marketing. You know how many people come to try
Speaker 1: to check bass please, this is a part of their histories.
Speaker 1: Totally had been there. Act like god, I know how
Speaker 1: myself start um um, but yeah that I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that this was the first time we see the see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the first time. It's so like it's like a
Speaker 1: give you chill. Remember filming there, how crazy the crowds
Speaker 1: would be. It would be really gnarly the whole everywhere.
Speaker 1: When I was on the show, I was like shocked.
Speaker 1: I was like, how do you guys get anything done?
Speaker 1: I mean it was great, it was awesome, but also
Speaker 1: to at that time, like paparazzi world was so just
Speaker 1: rapid and you guys, it was just anywhere and everywhere.
Speaker 1: But it is nice to see the fans and even
Speaker 1: on Sweet Magnolias were shooting this little city called Covington, Georgia,
Speaker 1: and these people like they can watch the show. You
Speaker 1: get to come and get like a real like you yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta like to touch it, feel it, see it.
Speaker 1: And then the bonus is to see it be filmed,
Speaker 1: which I think is cool. I think that's that's question. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I still I stopped and watch almost every film shoot
Speaker 1: I see in New York City. I'm always like, what
Speaker 1: are they shooting? What are they shooting? It's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's just cool to see, you know, when you want
Speaker 1: to check it out and you're like, oh, it's marishka um.
Speaker 1: Is that pretty much the end of the episode, right yeah,
Speaker 1: and looking beautiful at the back of the limo and
Speaker 1: and Carter's face like if looks could kill, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he is like mortified right now, mortified,
Speaker 1: like Carter Basin does not know what to do right now.
Speaker 1: And then you have every everyone watching Joe like what
Speaker 1: is this bitch gonna do now? Like you have a
Speaker 1: you're like the sweetest, nicest, like we want you with Nate,
Speaker 1: and now she's like daddy, what daddy wants to hunt? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: got a good one, Like it is a Georgina vibe
Speaker 1: because it's all of a sudden, it's everything's going to
Speaker 1: like shift on this because all these ulterior motives that
Speaker 1: we had no clue the whole time, and when Carter
Speaker 1: Basins involved, it's always bad's always bad. Yeah, something's going down,
Speaker 1: something fishy. Yeah, And I think that she's kind of
Speaker 1: probably a very similar type of person to be partner
Speaker 1: redeeming qualities. There's a heart in there. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: she's a girl in this episode, Blair you. I actually
Speaker 1: have to show this to my kids because they are
Speaker 1: so obsessed with limos. They think they believe that Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift actually drives around and when that I love that
Speaker 1: and so and every time they see even in like Tampa, Florida,
Speaker 1: they're like, there's a limo. Do you think Taylor Swift's
Speaker 1: in there? And I was like, I don't know, that
Speaker 1: would be very cool off, like she was going to
Speaker 1: fresh market. This is also what's so great about you.
Speaker 1: You're like the best moment. You're so yeah, all like
Speaker 1: juggling it and doing all that, and you always are working.
Speaker 1: I mean you're always working as a mom. That never
Speaker 1: stops ever. Um, do you mind talking about the ages
Speaker 1: and how you juggle that? No? Um, Emmy's nine and
Speaker 1: Sailors six. They are polar opposite. They're so cute. Um.
Speaker 1: She They're both just they're little troopers. I mean they
Speaker 1: were on the show this year. They were just just
Speaker 1: for a couple of hours. The little one was like
Speaker 1: what's my motivation? What's my character's name? The older one
Speaker 1: was like, this is like a lot of work, and
Speaker 1: I don't understand, but I can't say that it's not
Speaker 1: without like panicky moments of you know, am I being
Speaker 1: selfish by wanting them to be with me? And but honestly,
Speaker 1: I look at them and, um, we're such a you know,
Speaker 1: we're a really close knit family, and we talk about
Speaker 1: things a lot. And they just kind of popped right
Speaker 1: back into school, no problem, and they got to have
Speaker 1: they get to have these experiences, and I'm just grateful
Speaker 1: that there, you know, want to be a part of
Speaker 1: the journey because I think that, you know, like like everything,
Speaker 1: we've got to balance things and I don't want to
Speaker 1: be away from them for too long. And they are
Speaker 1: the first thing I think about before I take any job.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the motherhood thing does really come first. And
Speaker 1: do you know what I think is really awesome too
Speaker 1: with what we're blessed with to be able to do,
Speaker 1: is we do have a job where like they can
Speaker 1: come to set like and being our changes and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like some people can't bring their kids to the office,
Speaker 1: Some people can't bring their kids to you know, school,
Speaker 1: like it's just I'm saying, we're very blessed that we
Speaker 1: can they can come to work, and that a lot
Speaker 1: of productions are very great about that. So absolutely, I
Speaker 1: feel like life in the arts too, it's like you
Speaker 1: have some you meet such a diversity of people. Your
Speaker 1: every job is a whole new family. So to expose
Speaker 1: young people to that, to expose kids to that, it's
Speaker 1: like you're just making them their their world is just
Speaker 1: so much bigger. So you know, that's a beautiful gift
Speaker 1: for them. It's luckily, I think they're really adaptable and
Speaker 1: like also just like meeting new people. I think that's
Speaker 1: why traveling is so important, and getting to see how
Speaker 1: people live outside of you, you in your in your life.
Speaker 1: So I think that because it's it's it's life experiences.
Speaker 1: I mean, to be in the South and George is
Speaker 1: a very different place than l A, l A and
Speaker 1: and all of that, and you learn different things about
Speaker 1: yourself being in different places like that. So I think
Speaker 1: that's it's what you both are saying. It's it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. It really is awesome. I cannot believe she's
Speaker 1: nine that I know, and then she's been talking to
Speaker 1: me someone someone mentioned her leg hair on like gymnastics class,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I think I need to shave, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you're you're nine years old. But then
Speaker 1: I start to think, I'm like, should I help her
Speaker 1: with this? Like I don't want her to get made
Speaker 1: fun of? Right, And then it's just like we're taking
Speaker 1: a hard right into a new phase, whereas the little
Speaker 1: one is still just like I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to describe her personality. She's just wild and fun and funny.
Speaker 1: And the other day she asked me, She's like, did
Speaker 1: you ever do anything bad as a little kid? And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, like no, I mean, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was pretty I want her getting ideas. No, we're
Speaker 1: not talking about my twenties. But I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, like I never got sent to the principal's office.
Speaker 1: And my oldest was like, I've gotten sent to the
Speaker 1: principal's office. And that kid punched me in the face,
Speaker 1: and and Sailor looked at her, my little six year old.
Speaker 1: She goes, that's not on you, honey, that's very funny. That. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first of all, I can't believe someone punched her. That's ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: A boy punched. I don't know. Yeah, I never felt
Speaker 1: the need to call a teacher. I'm not that mom.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we'll figure this out, and more about kind
Speaker 1: of bolstering them to be able to handle people rather
Speaker 1: than having to go have a teacher's conference about it.
Speaker 1: But hitting my kid, um no. That's when the correct
Speaker 1: the Cuban mother and me came out. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's not happen, so U Nick was like, okay, go girl.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, you heard that right. I
Speaker 1: can't I mean I can't. I can't even have imagine
Speaker 1: get ready, get Ready and Bowie. You cannot even keep
Speaker 1: your eyes off Bowie. She's so remarkably she looks like
Speaker 1: something from another world, Like she's so beautiful, really striking child.
Speaker 1: You know, she's so gorgeous, really really sweet. Thank you
Speaker 1: that she's gorgeous to so get ready. Usually on Instagram
Speaker 1: when people's kids videos comes up, I'm like scroll Squirrel Scurorell,
Speaker 1: but because it's so they're so yeah, so precious, and
Speaker 1: like really really yeah, that's so sweet and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to go play with her right now. Ye I
Speaker 1: was going, and this is such a beautiful time. It's
Speaker 1: such a gorgeous time. It's magical and there is something
Speaker 1: really miraculous about being able to like walk beside your
Speaker 1: child and um and help them navigate this very crazy world.
Speaker 1: It's an honor. So I'm trying to not an honor
Speaker 1: when in the middle of the night my kids, like
Speaker 1: I literally both of them were wound up in our
Speaker 1: bed last night. There was four of us deep in
Speaker 1: our in our bed. When you get like punched and
Speaker 1: kicked in the head and you know, but um, but
Speaker 1: it is I'm I'm grateful savory in the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it really is such a beautiful thing. And it's
Speaker 1: also like when I'm with Bowie sometimes I like really
Speaker 1: try not to have my phone bite just to like
Speaker 1: really dial in and be there because everything is so precious.
Speaker 1: Time is just like you know, so I'm just always
Speaker 1: trying to be real. We can talk about this for hours.
Speaker 1: This is a whole another podcast. Yes we could. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, um, but I'll just call you call me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But all of that being said, You're an amazing mom.
Speaker 1: You're very inspirational, and I just love the positive attitude
Speaker 1: that you have and how committed you are to your
Speaker 1: work and your family. Everyone has the best things to
Speaker 1: say about you all around, and that's very true. We've
Speaker 1: heard we've heard your name so many times from everyone
Speaker 1: on this podcast because it's like you know your beloved
Speaker 1: and that it's a huge difference in the world because
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you can uh be talented and
Speaker 1: beautiful as you are, but the fact that you also
Speaker 1: have a good heart and just like leave a great
Speaker 1: imprint and all the people you work with, that's a
Speaker 1: huge thing. So it's my pleasure to meet you and
Speaker 1: I have this conversation with you has been really fun.
Speaker 1: Going to make me cry. Thank you. I love you. But, um,
Speaker 1: do you want to do the Gossip Girl closing quote? Sure?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm scared. I'm like, it's actually okay, good, okay,
Speaker 1: anyone wants to start the bidding on what happens next?
Speaker 1: Going once, going choice XO XO Gossip Girl, well done.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like that was I have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for Kristen Bell. Now, yeah, it's hard,
Speaker 1: I've read a couple of them had respect for her.
Speaker 1: But I just want to say, like that's I wanted that, boy,
Speaker 1: I wanted that badly. I wanted that. Yeah, great, she
Speaker 1: did such a good job with it. And it's like
Speaker 1: when they test did the pilot, you know, they go
Speaker 1: and they would have the little um the dials that
Speaker 1: would go up and down when the audience like things
Speaker 1: or didn't like things, and apparently every time that Gossip
Speaker 1: Girl's voice came on, it went way down, and like
Speaker 1: Josh was like, I don't, can't not have it. But
Speaker 1: I remember thinking they were so committed and had such
Speaker 1: a vision that they were like, it doesn't We're obviously
Speaker 1: keeping it. We're doing it. And that's like the heart
Speaker 1: and the through line of the show. Now, yeah, can
Speaker 1: you imagine, Oh my god, it's so import This one
Speaker 1: is particularly good because it basically speaks to what we've
Speaker 1: been talking about this whole time, is what's going to
Speaker 1: happen next? Yeah. Yeah, by the way, I'm gonna find out,
Speaker 1: literally gonna now. And yeah, it's fun to rewatch and
Speaker 1: going down the rabbit hole. It really is. And I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you're about to pull up breathe. Um,
Speaker 1: But you were you shocked that it was Dan when
Speaker 1: you found out or did you not? I definitely he
Speaker 1: was not even on the top ten right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're just like what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's literally what everyone's like reaction. Did did Penno? Like
Speaker 1: didn't know? Through the whole time, no one knew I love, No,
Speaker 1: I love. It's always a mystery with a gossip girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming. I know. I love
Speaker 1: you too, girl. Thank you for coming. It was so
Speaker 1: nice to meet you too. You guys, good luck. This
Speaker 1: is amazing. I love this. XO XO is produced by
Speaker 1: Propagate Content and me Jessica's Or. Our show is executive
Speaker 1: produced by Linkley. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our
Speaker 1: producers are Hannah Harris, Emily Carr, and Christian Vermilion, and
Speaker 1: our intern is Sammy Cats. Original music by Moxie and Lune,
Speaker 1: and the episode was mixed by Seth Lanski