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Speaker 1: How much presidential race? Yeah, I don't know. We've only
Speaker 1: got what was that sean nineties, six days to go.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be over in the blink of a hunt
Speaker 1: right around the corner, I tell you what, though, even
Speaker 1: the early days have been fun to watch in a way,
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. For instance, the Beaeto mania
Speaker 1: followed by the betto backlash, and Tim Miller, who's a
Speaker 1: calumnist for The Bulwark, is reading a piece entitled the
Speaker 1: Beato Woke Wars that we found quite intriguing and have
Speaker 1: invited Tim on. Hey Tim, how are you sir? Hey guys,
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Good to be with you. It's five
Speaker 1: ninety four More days of this. You're killing me. It can't.
Speaker 1: But seriously, it can't be this pace. Ken, It is
Speaker 1: that possible. Didn't we say that last time? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think it can. I think it can be this pace,
Speaker 1: especially with with Trump. Hey, we didn't invite you on
Speaker 1: to make a suicidal tim Alright, you guys did it
Speaker 1: to me. So I'll tell us about your piece the
Speaker 1: Better Woke Wars. Yeah. Well, look, I'm sort of a
Speaker 1: never Trump Republican for listeners who don't know me. So
Speaker 1: I feel like I have this interesting perspective where I
Speaker 1: feel disengaged from both primaries, and so I've been kind
Speaker 1: of going to events on both sides to try to
Speaker 1: get a feel for what the what the voters wanted
Speaker 1: and the betto thing that has been so interesting to me,
Speaker 1: in kind of another depressing all the suicidal way is
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, the golden boy of the
Speaker 1: left in eighteen he was going after Ted people, Ted
Speaker 1: Cruz and uh, you know, he was on Ellen and
Speaker 1: he was defending Kaepernick and and and all of this.
Speaker 1: And then the calendar turns to twenty nineteen and he's
Speaker 1: running against socialist Bernie Sanders and you know, candidates that
Speaker 1: are more popular at the intersectional social justice laughed like
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and and they've turned on him, and they've
Speaker 1: turned on him. And in every article you read about
Speaker 1: him from lefty outlets, now, uh, they talked about his
Speaker 1: white privilege and his privilege as a male, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to myself about, how what what hope
Speaker 1: do you know? Moderate Republicans have to build a coalition
Speaker 1: with these folks if they're gonna turn on Bettos so quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talked to a a college student who was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, progressive, like a lot of college students are
Speaker 1: on Friday, and it was kind of you know, I said, so,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Betto? And I was ready
Speaker 1: for the Oh my god, this is that and it
Speaker 1: was all, what a fraud, what a complete fraud. And
Speaker 1: it really really caught me by surprise. And then I
Speaker 1: saw the New republic article, article in the Slate article
Speaker 1: and saw the backlash in the New York Times about
Speaker 1: him not letting his wife's talk during the commercial, and thought, wow,
Speaker 1: the article crazy. Honestly, thesteners haven't read it. This is
Speaker 1: the most insane thing that I've read. The New York
Speaker 1: Times wrote not it wasn't like a columnist with an opinion.
Speaker 1: It was a news story. He wrote. That was that
Speaker 1: the premise of the story that was Betto was appearing
Speaker 1: to revel in his advantages in a white male as
Speaker 1: a white male because his wife didn't speak in the
Speaker 1: announcement video. Now remember written as a news story, which
Speaker 1: is crazy number one Betto's wife. And look, I'm not
Speaker 1: really particularly Bettle fan. He's far too left for me.
Speaker 1: But but you know, you have to when you see crazy,
Speaker 1: you gotta call it crazy. Betto's wife spoke in in
Speaker 1: the magazine article interview. She speaks at his events like
Speaker 1: this idea that he's trying to silence her. And this
Speaker 1: is the same critique that Trump, remember leveled against because
Speaker 1: your Khan's wife at the convention that that the New
Speaker 1: York Times was all up in arms over about how
Speaker 1: that was the offensive. And now you know now that
Speaker 1: it's it's the folks on their side that are, you know,
Speaker 1: being threatened. It's a it's stair game, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's really insane to see how how the tables have
Speaker 1: turned on this stuff. It's probably worth tossing in as
Speaker 1: an aside that Laura Logan famously said on our show
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that she'll read a New
Speaker 1: York Times news article and not find a fact in it. Well,
Speaker 1: this is true, and this this article was paid to
Speaker 1: five tweets. Guys. The reporter found five tweets a liberal
Speaker 1: Brooklyn uh, you know social you know, socialist Bernie fans,
Speaker 1: and then wrote an article based on this and was
Speaker 1: saying that there's this ground soul of people who are
Speaker 1: offended by her silence based on five liberals in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy that that at least at least it's
Speaker 1: not the most important newspaper in the world. You know,
Speaker 1: all of politics is a NonStop, hundred way back stabbery.
Speaker 1: But Better Ork has to be absolutely astonished, has be
Speaker 1: be shocked, of course he does. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: talking to I was a communications director for a bunch
Speaker 1: of Republicans like Jeb and John McCain and others, And
Speaker 1: I've been talking to some of my fellow flax we
Speaker 1: call ourselves who have to deal with the press, we
Speaker 1: call you that to it. Yeah, there you go flax
Speaker 1: on there and uh and and everybody's just laughing. Actually,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of uh. And now you know
Speaker 1: how it feels to be on our side, right because
Speaker 1: Betto has been getting this this sort of insane, unfair
Speaker 1: you know attacks that you know any Republican, you know
Speaker 1: politicians used to getting it every day of the week
Speaker 1: from the Times. Hey, since you brought it up, and
Speaker 1: this is this is no no complain about Jeb. Seemed
Speaker 1: like a perfectly nice guy. But if you're the communications
Speaker 1: director for Jeb, tell us what it feels like when
Speaker 1: you're not obviously dying campaign, I mean one that's just
Speaker 1: not working. What does it feel like? It feels really painful?
Speaker 1: I had, I was I've been on a couple of
Speaker 1: losing campaigns, and the very first one I was on,
Speaker 1: who was a guy running for governor of Delaware, Republican,
Speaker 1: which was obviously a doomed battle toime. You know, he
Speaker 1: was a marine and he told me. You know, when
Speaker 1: I went into the Marines, I thought, how bad could
Speaker 1: basic training be? And then, you know, my my father
Speaker 1: said to me, you don't know how long six weeks
Speaker 1: is until you live at one second at a time.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I felt on the Jeb campaign.
Speaker 1: I was living at one second at a time, and
Speaker 1: you know we knew it about October. Look, I I'll
Speaker 1: just have to say this, the Jeb is my favorite
Speaker 1: person I've ever worked for. You might not like his politics,
Speaker 1: but he's a fantastically decent man. It would have been
Speaker 1: a great president. But in October we asked for a
Speaker 1: poll and just asked why people didn't like him. Didn't
Speaker 1: like him because he was a bush, because he was
Speaker 1: the nature of the way he carried himself wasn't tough enough,
Speaker 1: so to speak. I've never heard a single human being
Speaker 1: alleged that he's less than a really good human being. Well,
Speaker 1: the president, I've heard one person like Jim Miller writes
Speaker 1: for The Bulwark. We'll have a link to his article.
Speaker 1: I wish we could have gotten more of it because
Speaker 1: it's really really good, But just got Armstrong and Guetta
Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, Tim, love the Chad. Let's do it
Speaker 1: against soon. Huh, thanks, guys, I would love to well done.
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