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Speaker 1: Scrible advice shot. No, welcome to the Naughty but Nice

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shooter. And it's Thursday, which means

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Lupo joints us. Hello, viare you

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Speaker 1: there here? Hell Lou. We have a big day of gossip,

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Speaker 1: lots going on, lots of breaking stories today that we

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Speaker 1: have some special details you're not gonna hear anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in. What time is it, my friends? It

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Speaker 1: is tea time. So friends of Brad Pitt are claiming

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Speaker 1: the ex Angelina Joe La is on a smear campaign

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Speaker 1: against him and it's taken an extreme toll on their

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Speaker 1: six children. So TMZ are reporting that Angelina Jolie is

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Speaker 1: on a smear campaign against our ext re hashing some

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Speaker 1: allegations that she made years ago, allegations that have fallen

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Speaker 1: Angelina is repeating attempts to paint Brad as a child abuser,

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Speaker 1: and it's taken an extreme toll on all six of

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Speaker 1: their children, who are now all strange from their dad.

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Speaker 1: That makes me sad. So what's going on here is

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Speaker 1: that Angelina and Brad are divorced, but they're fighting, fighting

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Speaker 1: over that chateau that they co own in France. Now,

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Speaker 1: in the documentation, Angelina throwing some bombshells about that plane

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Speaker 1: incident from two thousand and sixteen. She's now claiming that

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Speaker 1: Brad slapped one of the children, trying to choke another

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Speaker 1: one of the kids. People are saying, what does this

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Speaker 1: have to do with the chateau. Now, some friends of

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Speaker 1: Angelina are telling me they're defending her, saying that the

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Speaker 1: reason she's selling the chateau is because she's got divorced

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Speaker 1: from brand and the reason she got divorced from Brad

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Speaker 1: because of the plane incident. I think that's a few

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Speaker 1: steps removed, Mark, That's a hard needle to thread. So

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Speaker 1: what are you think is going on here? Yeah? I agree, Rob,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a very very messy story. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, if our Brad I would not even have

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Speaker 1: been bothered with this whole thing. Like you're worth so

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Speaker 1: many millions of dollars. Just let her go, let her

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Speaker 1: sell her shares, because now this has been rehashed, it's

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Speaker 1: been six years, and like you're saying, he's estranged from

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Speaker 1: all around. It is heartbreaking, isn't it. Now. Friends of

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Speaker 1: Brands point out that the FBI investigated this and they

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Speaker 1: concluded that the allegations were insignificant to move forward. He

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Speaker 1: And another point that I think we have to remember

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Speaker 1: try and prove that Brad was an unfit parent and

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Speaker 1: Angelina can claim this in this court document, but this

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Speaker 1: is being rehashed to the FBI. Child Services mark have

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Speaker 1: investigated and the judge gave them fifty So I have

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Speaker 1: to be skeptical here. But what I really want to

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Speaker 1: the day is that Angelina is being accused of being

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Speaker 1: on a smear campaign against her ex Brad Pitts. Some

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Speaker 1: people are saying this is revenge. What do you think.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree is this a smear campaign? Go to

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Speaker 1: our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob, but on Facebook

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Speaker 1: page Naughty Gossip, leave a comment there and they show

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Speaker 1: to check back on Friday to here your results. Hey, Mark,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on? Another very newsy story? Ye? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a big breaking news story. Alec Baldwin has reached a

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Speaker 1: settlement with Helena Hutchinson's family. Yes, so, the family of

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Speaker 1: Helena Hutchins, the cinematographer who was killed on the Rust

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Speaker 1: against Balwin and alleged numerous industry standard violations. So in

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Speaker 1: a statement, Matthew Hutchins, the widower of Helena, will be

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. So as a part of the settlement to

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Speaker 1: Who's going to go and see this? And I think

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Speaker 1: Let's remember too, this is not Avatar, it's not The Godfather.

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Speaker 1: It's an independent Western star in Ali Baldwin. How much

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Speaker 1: Mark I spoke to some of my legal sources. They said,

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Speaker 1: It's not up to the widower, it's up to the authorities.

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Speaker 1: it's time for the nicest of the day. Rob. It's

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