1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox on radio. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: How the hell are we feeling here on this Monday morning? 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: Good man? Good what up? 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Sticks out? 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: What? 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: What a game last night? 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, that was a game. That was That was 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: a game. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: What a colossal gag job by the Baltimore Ravens. 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: It was a little uh yeah, it was a little 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: gag job. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 4: That's just especially when it's a team that ended your 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 4: season a few months ago and you're like, you know, 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: we're going to make a statement. They were in total 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: control of that game, total control, and the fourth quarter 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 4: happened and next thing you know, it was just a 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: comedy of airs for the Baltimore Ravens, who ended up 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 4: coming up short again to the Buffalo Bills. But that 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: was a hell of a game and a hell of 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: a way to close up the first Sunday in the NFL. 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I thought it was a very very 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 5: exciting day outside of the obviously the obvious being the 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 5: first real week of NFL football. I just I felt 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 5: like coming away from some competitive games, some teams looking like. 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: Some really good teams that it's still I hate. 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: I hate to do this because if it was your 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 5: team that came out on top yesterday, I just feel 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 5: like this kind of takes away from it a little 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 5: bit from me, not from anyone else. You keep it 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 5: the way you want to keep it. But it's it's 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: Week one, and I almost feel as though because of 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 5: the way preseason is played and there's not a there's 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: not a. 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: Level of. 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 5: I would say game legs, there's not a true level 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: of game legs or preparation in terms of how you're 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 5: going to play that first team because you're really not 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: sure what these teams are going to come out and 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 5: do wrinkle wise and personality wise for the season plays, 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 5: you know, so to speak, what is the new trend 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 5: that that coaches are going to have within their playbooks. 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: I think it's a hard week to judge, I really do. 44 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 5: It would be premature and irresponsible for me to say 45 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: this is a good team or this isn't a good 46 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: team based upon yesterday's results. But at face value, I 47 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: thought it was. It was a good opening day for 48 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 5: the NFL for well. 49 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: An example of that was last year Week one, the 50 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 4: Patriots beat the Bengals and New England was awful and 51 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: fired their coach and went through that whole circus they 52 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: went through and then ultimately hiring Mike Rabels. So you know, 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: like you just yeah to your point, you look back 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: at Week one results, you know, in retrospect, and you realize, 55 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: all right, what really were we discussing or breaking down 56 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 4: or what really what did that result actually mean? 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: The one thing I know is that. 58 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: Buffalo and Baltimore, those teams are good, and it feels like, 59 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: much like they met last year in the postseason, that 60 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: this may be an opportunity to see them play twice 61 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: again this year. Josh Allen, the winning side of things, 62 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: the quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, the reigning MVP, talked 63 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: about the performance afterwards. 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 6: Everybody there, I'm just proud of our team for staying 65 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 6: in it. No one on the sideline blinked, I mean 66 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: down fifteen points whenever we were with five six minutes left, 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 6: staying with it, Fans leaving, you know, the stadium. You know, 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: you gotta play this game for sixty minutes. And that's 69 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 6: that's a really good outfit that we just played. And 70 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 6: you know, God willing we we take care of business. 71 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 6: How we're supposed to and how we think we will. 72 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 6: You know, it's probably a team we'll see again. So 73 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 6: you know, they're they're a great lea coach team. Hats 74 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 6: off to them for having a really good game plan. 75 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 6: But you know, gotta were stuck in there and I'm 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 6: just proud of our guys. 77 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: Why are fans leaving the stadium? So it's the last 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 4: year for that stadium. You should enjoy every second you 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: possibly can. It's not like you're seeing bad football players 80 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 4: out there. There's Hall of famers riddled all over that field. 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: Why would you want to leave early? 82 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: The hell? Else is going on in Buffalo? 83 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: Some we it's this thing called work that people have 84 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: to go to getting that work. 85 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, get a like you know, get a get a 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 7: real job. 87 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 5: Yep, that's exactly right, that's exactly where so that that happens. 88 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: You know that that's a part of things. So if 89 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 5: you could try to beat the traffic, the rush, the 90 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 5: wave out of a game, I get it. You know, 91 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: It's it's interesting, you know people, that's a part of 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: I feel like football culture. You have a you have 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 5: a certain demographic or a certain portion of fans, and 94 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure why they go to games because you 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 5: see them leaving at halftime. Yeah, like literally, like that's 96 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: their time to depart. Like we got the first half 97 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 5: in wonderful, we're out. It's weird. I don't know. And 98 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: I've seen that. I won't throw any throwing these sets 99 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: out there. I won't throw any names out there. But 100 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: I literally only go to one football game live, so 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: y'all can do the math on that. But it's weird 102 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 5: because when I'm going out to go to the suites. 103 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: When I'm going to the suites, it's, uh, it's it's 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 5: interesting how many people I see the partying the game 105 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 5: while I'm heading out and back in to. 106 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Go to the suites. 107 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: But and I thought it was like maybe, like is 108 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 5: this a coincidence? And then now this is like, you know, 109 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: the next week, and it's like, no, it's still a 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 5: very very large Russia people who are leaving the stadium 111 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 5: at halftime. It's kind of or maybe they're leaving the 112 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 5: Goteil gate and they are they allow re entrance. 113 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: No, I don't think And that's funny. Yeah, And so 114 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: I'm glad that any of those Bills fans that wanted 115 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: to walk away from game one with like I mentioned, 116 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: Hall of Famers everywhere, final year of that stadium, with 117 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: all the great players that have been through. I'm glad 118 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: they walked up back to the front gate and they 119 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: were like, you can take a walk back to where 120 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: you came from. You're not a real member of Bill's mafia. 121 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: You phony ass. 122 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it, Hi, good morning. 123 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 8: What I'd say about that is this was probably those 124 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 8: might be the best game we see all season, at 125 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 8: least in the regular season. Yeah, it had literally everything 126 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 8: you're looking for. 127 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: The star power. 128 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 8: You know, you obviously have two guys who've been League 129 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 8: MVPs who were searching for Super Bowls. You had defenses 130 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 8: that at times stepped up. You had running games that 131 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 8: at times were dominant. I mean, I think most people 132 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 8: probably thought after the long Derek Henry run that thing 133 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 8: was over. But then you've got, you know the advantage 134 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 8: of just I would say luck, like like luck played 135 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 8: a factor too. I mean, you can't tell me it's 136 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 8: not luck. When you get a tipball like that that 137 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 8: goes to Keon Cole when he catches it to help 138 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 8: them get back into the game. Where Derrick Henry, who 139 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 8: has had you know, one of his best nights of 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 8: his career, and then fumbles you know, you know, in 141 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 8: their own territory with three minutes left. There's just there's 142 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 8: so many things that went into that, even the story 143 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 8: of the kicker who hits the kick. Matt Prater just 144 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 8: signed there this week, he just signed there. The whole 145 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 8: thing is like as good of a story as you 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 8: could write. And it's week one Sunday Night football. It 147 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 8: was phenomenal. I thought the day of games in general 148 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 8: were actually really really good, very competitive, very tight games. 149 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 8: You know, Washington, New York. The score looked more out 150 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 8: of hand than it actually was. I mean the Giants obviously, 151 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 8: you know, had an opportunity to make it a one 152 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 8: score the game they're late, had a couple of opportunities really, 153 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 8: But all in all, I mean, just an incredible day 154 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 8: of football in the NFL. 155 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 7: And what what a night man that was. 156 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 8: That was unbelievable, Like that was one of the craziest 157 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 8: endings and turnarounds. I do have a bone to pick though, 158 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 8: at some point about some decision making by Sean mcdert, though. 159 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, let's say, what's the what's the issue? 160 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 8: So two times this happened in the game and it 161 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 8: made zero sense to me. I was talking to a 162 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 8: buddy when they did it the first time. But the 163 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 8: Bills went down fifteen, and this was in the third 164 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 8: quarter of the first time they went for two. And 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 8: there's probably some people out there who are gonna try 166 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 8: to make an analytical argument, but to me, at that 167 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 8: point the third quarter, you could probably say, you can 168 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 8: go for two, you can kick pat. It doesn't matter 169 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 8: quite as much because what they did in that in 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 8: that instance was they went for two. 171 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: They didn't get it. 172 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 8: Now that puts you down nine, it's two possessions. Later, 173 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 8: after that long Derek Henry run, they' down forty to 174 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 8: twenty five. The next touchdown they get kick the pat. 175 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 8: Why because you don't want to be down two possessions. 176 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 8: You don't know if you're gonna get the ball back, 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 8: how many possessions you have left. I would have applied 178 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 8: the same logic in the third quarter that I did 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter if I'm Sean McDermott, because of 180 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 8: how that game's going like that. 181 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: That was a game where. 182 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 8: If I'm especially a defensive minded head coach, I don't 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 8: know how many more times I'm gonna get the ball back, 184 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 8: and how many more times all get the ball back 185 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 8: without them throwing out another score. I mean, at that 186 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 8: moment in the third quarter, it felt like it was 187 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 8: kind of a shootout and the Buffalo was really gonna 188 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 8: have to make some big time defensive changes. I do 189 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 8: have one more grape too way about this game, but 190 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 8: that for some reason it bothered me because well, no, 191 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 8: like you shouldn't change your decision making to extend it 192 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 8: to like a point where you have to have a 193 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 8: couple more possessions. You assume you're gonna get the ball 194 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 8: back a couple more times, but you can't make the 195 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 8: assumption that you know, uh, Baltimore is gonna only have 196 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 8: forty points, like they're not going to score in one 197 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 8: of those possessions. So I hated that decision making. The 198 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 8: last thing I'll just say is this and this LeVar 199 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 8: you can chime in on. When Derek Henry starts going off, 200 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 8: Chris Collins Hath said something that I'm sit there thinking, like. 201 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: Chris, you know this isn't true, Like why are you 202 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: saying this? 203 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 8: He's like, well, you know, Buffalo's trying to adjust to 204 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 8: a too high safety look just to get two guys 205 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 8: taking angles that Derek Henry to stop him. 206 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: You know, he's being so dominant. I saw I heard that. 207 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 8: I was like, Bro, you know that's not why a 208 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 8: team would like in no way shape or would a 209 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 8: team ever play. You could say, oh, they're playing cover four, 210 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 8: so the safety is a part of the you know, 211 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 8: getting an attack of the run. 212 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: Dude, they're playing nickel. 213 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 8: They had nickel, they had Dine package out there, like 214 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 8: they needed to play more base personnel, which they did 215 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 8: in the second half because you bring an additional linebacker. Like, 216 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 8: if there's any adjustment that the Bills needed to make 217 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 8: or should have made earlier, was hey, man, we've got 218 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 8: you know, we've got some guys that we feel like 219 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 8: can maybe match up when Baltimore goes to their sub 220 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 8: personnel three wide receiver sets, We're just gonna have to 221 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 8: play base personnel and use three linebackers versus their three 222 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 8: wide receiver sets and make Lamar say, all right, you've 223 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 8: got a match up the pass game. 224 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 3: Take that instead of just. 225 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 8: Handing it off to Derrick Henry letting him run all 226 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 8: over us. But in no way shape or for me, 227 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 8: you sitting there saying we're gonna pay a too high 228 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 8: shell to stop Derrick Henry running the football. Like, if anything, 229 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 8: you put an extra body down the line on the 230 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 8: line of scrimmage and it's post high, or you're playing 231 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 8: zero coverage where there's no safety help and you're trying 232 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 8: to get everyone you can up around the line of 233 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 8: scrimmage to stop Derrick Henry before he gets started. 234 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: It was one of the most. 235 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 8: Insane comments that I've ever heard made by a guy 236 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 8: who I respect, I love listening to. He's done a 237 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 8: phenomenal job throughout his career, but it was it was 238 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 8: some of the worst commentating I've heard regards to you know, 239 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 8: what the Bills are. 240 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: Trying to do to stop Derrick Henry. I mean it's. 241 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 5: You're not husing a too high for stopping the run. 242 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 5: I mean you when you have, in fact, again the 243 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: way the way they were getting through the first and 244 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: second wave of of tacklers, I mean, too high doesn't 245 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 5: even really matter. I mean, you got first, first wave, 246 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 5: second wave of defenders, you got the D line, you 247 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 5: got the linebackers, you got the secondary guys. I mean, 248 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: by the time a second secondary guy is going to 249 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 5: get to Derrick Henry, that's already you know, eight to 250 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: nine yards. You know, he's already past the second second 251 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: level of the defense. So yeah, I don't I don't think. 252 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 5: I don't see that per se. And generally speaking, when 253 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: you have some safety, did you hear this? I did 254 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 5: hear it. I did hear I didn't give it too much. 255 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: I just was like, you know, I did kind of 256 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: go like what, But I didn't give it any more 257 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 5: thought than like, like what. 258 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: You know? 259 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: But Sean McDermot, Chris collins Worth, it's week one for everybody. 260 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 4: You know, maybe they'll work through this stuff as the 261 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: season goes on. 262 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: I just listen. 263 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 5: When you have that second safety, generally, the front side 264 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 5: safety is. 265 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: Alway, he's back anyway. 266 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 5: It's the backside safety that is going to be the 267 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 5: backside plug field gap player. So whether you have a 268 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 5: single high or not, generally speaking, if it's a single high, 269 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 5: you you probably you do have another guy that's out 270 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: and coverage, versus having another guy that might be inside 271 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: the run length like what is considered to be the 272 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 5: I guess the box, but they're off the ball unless 273 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 5: you've shifted and brought that safety down, which would possibly 274 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: give you an extra backer closer to the run if 275 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 5: in theory, you know, you looked at it that way, 276 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 5: but listen the way the way Derek was getting through 277 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: that first level and to the second level. Yeah, it's 278 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: not that that was not That was not the problem. 279 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: The problem was is that the Bills offensive line was 280 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: doing an amazing job of ceiling and opening up run 281 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: lanes Baltimore. Excuse me, Baltimore, Well, Bills were too, but 282 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 5: Baltimore's old line was doing both old lines were doing 283 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 5: a great job of getting to their spots and opening 284 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 5: up run lanes for for guys to be able to 285 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: get into them. And you know, when you have that, 286 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 5: that's going to be difficult. But to your point, why 287 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: you you know you were joking about it. It's being 288 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: week one. You know, that's probably something that once these 289 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 5: guys do get their real game legs under them, that 290 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: it most likely will be a little bit more difficult 291 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: to be able to create those type. 292 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: Of run lanes. 293 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: Possibly, possibly these old lines could just be really that 294 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: good and be able to hook and and turn guys 295 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 5: the way they want to turn them. But I found 296 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 5: out to be pretty interesting, Like, man, these offensive linemen 297 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 5: are literally on some of the plays, they were getting 298 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 5: a hold of these defensive linemen and they were turning 299 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: them back inside like they didn't even reach them. They 300 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 5: got a hold of them and made it into a 301 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 5: reach block. And I'm sitting there like, man, I ain't 302 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 5: never seen nothing like that, Like, I don't, I don't, 303 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: that's not that's not common to see that. But they 304 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 5: were manhandling one another out there. So made it a 305 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 5: pretty cool game to watch. 306 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: Is it fair to say this is a preview of the 307 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: NFC Championships? A two? I I number one week indo 308 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: it home? 309 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: So and you know they I thought about this too. 310 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: How many times do we talk about, well, you know 311 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: the NBA or some of these other sports have a 312 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: seven games. Give me a seven game series between the 313 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: Bills and the Ravens. Please let me watch this over 314 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: and over again. I want to see it as many 315 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: times as possible. I'd rather watch that game than virtually 316 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: any other matchup in the NFL. 317 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: Give me those reasons. 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 8: You never get that same sort of intensity, that same 319 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 8: sort of environment that for every single game, because you 320 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 8: know it's a best a seven series Like that's what 321 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 8: makes football unique, That's what makes the sudden death playoffs 322 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 8: in the NFL unique, that's what makes it great. If 323 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 8: you're a Bills fan that left, like sorry about it, 324 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 8: than you miss you can't come back for game two, 325 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 8: Game three, and game four, like that's it. You get 326 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 8: one shot at it, that's got it. I couldn't disagree 327 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 8: more like, that's what I think I love about football 328 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 8: in comparison to the NBA, to a lot of the 329 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 8: leagues and great a different sports, but still that's what 330 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 8: makes it awesome in my. 331 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: Mind is you get one shot at this, that's it. 332 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: The Ravens have got to be kicking themselves just thinking 333 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: that team ended our season last year in a really 334 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 4: close game and a Mark Andrews drop on a two 335 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: point conversion, and then we have this opportunity. 336 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: We've got a. 337 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: Two score lead, everything's going our way, and it was, 338 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: like we said earlier, a comedy of airs that led 339 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 4: to them losing. 340 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 5: The Lamar put his hands on one of the fans. 341 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he was letting y'all know this 342 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: was real. You know this ain't for fake. 343 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: This for real out here. You know when slam Tess 344 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: out here, you know, I did find it interesting. 345 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 8: Collinsworth had to bring up the Mark Andrews drop and 346 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 8: he's going, you know, you know what, He'll forget about that. 347 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: Never, It'll be with them forever. He's just gonna play 348 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: with it. I was like, damn, I don't know about that. 349 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 8: It's like, I mean, he might think if they never 350 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 8: win a Super Bowl, he might think about that, Yeah, 351 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 8: I might stick with them, But under the way he 352 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 8: put it, it's like, stick with them forever, We'll never 353 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 8: forget about that. 354 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: It's rough. I will say this too quickly. 355 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 8: I feel like maybe they got away a little bit 356 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 8: from you know, involving Lamar Jackson in the run game 357 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 8: the way they could have and kind of dictated that. 358 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 8: I just it's so hard, like going back to the 359 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 8: Derek Henry success, which it's unfortunate he fumbles, you know 360 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 8: in that moment, which ultimately kind of led to the 361 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 8: comeback because he had such a great game. 362 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 7: But it's a numbers count. So the two h shell thing. 363 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 8: The reality is you don't have enough bodies down around 364 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage to stop Derick Henry before he 365 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 8: gets started. And that's the reality of any big back 366 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 8: like him. If you think a safety ten yards away 367 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 8: is gonna be able to stop Derrick Henry, You're out 368 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 8: of your damn mind. 369 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you want. 370 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 8: To get to him in the backfield or around line 371 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 8: of scrimmage, or one or two yards deep before he 372 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 8: starts hitting that nineteen miles per hour he was clocked 373 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 8: at going last night like that dude running twenty miles 374 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 8: an hour almost, You're not stopping him. 375 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 7: You had no shot, so you kind of have to. 376 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 8: And the problem is is if you combine Lamar Jackson 377 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 8: and Derek Henry's ability both run the football, in order 378 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 8: to properly account for every run gap and properly account 379 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 8: for both is you have to play zero coverage. There's 380 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 8: no other way defensively for you to be able to 381 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 8: stop that rushing attack, which leaves everyone vulnerable because now 382 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 8: it's man to man, there's no safety help. And Lamar 383 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 8: Jackson is a former MVP, was good enough to dice 384 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 8: you up from the pocket. So I know, Baltimore lost. 385 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 8: I'd say you're Baltimore Ravens fan, You're fine. I mean 386 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 8: Zay Flowers, the way he's stepped up the playmaking ability, 387 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 8: Hopkins arguably had made the greatest catch we'll see all year. 388 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 8: I mean, this team is loaded, and I think they're 389 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 8: gonna be able to be right back in the AFC 390 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 8: Championship Game. I just I sit there and like wonder, 391 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 8: like is watching both those teams, you felt like, Okay, 392 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 8: they looked maybe they're just further ahead of everyone else, 393 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 8: but they look better than Casey, they look better than Chargers, 394 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 8: they look better than the Bengals. I don't know who 395 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 8: who else you're throwing the AFC in that picture, but 396 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 8: they look like a level above everyone else in the AFC. 397 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not gonna get carried away. That's that's all 398 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say. Week one. I just you could look 399 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 5: better than what you are, or you could not look 400 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 5: as good as you're gonna be. 401 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: I just that's to me. 402 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: That's the first thing that was my first conclusion is 403 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 5: coming away with I'm not going like, yes, they looked good, 404 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 5: and there were a couple of teams that actually looked good, 405 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 5: and I'm not willing to say they're good. I just 406 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 5: I'm not And I guess I just gotta wait and see. 407 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: It's wait and see for me. 408 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 3: Super Bowl Ravens. I got the Ravens, winn't it. 409 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 7: So you're not trying to sticks pick. 410 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 8: Damn right, you're not trying to get too excited about, 411 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 8: you know, how good they looked with exception of they 412 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 8: look good. 413 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 5: But you know, I assume they're going to look good. 414 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: I assume they're going to be good. I assume, but 415 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: Buffalo is going to look good. I assume Buffalo is 416 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 5: going to be good. I'm just not willing to confirm 417 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 5: or or just really really go all in, like, yep, 418 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: they look like that. 419 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: They are the teams. 420 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: I think they're good because personnel wise, they're a really 421 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: good team. But I don't know, like Pittsburgh. No, No, 422 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 5: something got caught my throat a little. 423 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 8: Bit said, sounds like something hiccups or maybe yeah, something 424 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 8: a little like like I don't like maybe like that morning, 425 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 8: you know that morning, like. 426 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: You could least that. Yeah. 427 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: But anyway, I know the air is different here in 428 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: Pennsylvania this time of the year, you differently, right. Yeah, 429 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 5: I'm there, yeah, because I go to all the games 430 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 5: and so instead of just flying right out and then 431 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: flying right back, I got some things I have to do. 432 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: And hey, I'll to tay you this much. A little disappointed. 433 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 8: I know they pitched to shut out you know, scored 434 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 8: three some points, but they didn't cover all right. 435 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was always us It's almost like, in my 436 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 5: mind looking at it, not not to just really pivot 437 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 5: so quickly. It was like they didn't want to show 438 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: anything and they were so vanilla so early that it 439 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 5: was like, are you like, are we doing ball control here? 440 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 3: You know, like let's give them some let's give the 441 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: fans some. 442 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: Excitement, like like let's go ahead and like let's do it. 443 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 5: Let's let's get up and then be a little bit 444 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 5: more conservative. But I don't know, I you know, I 445 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 5: reserved my judgments on that. They did end up pulling away, 446 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: but it was a very very slow start. 447 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 8: Super you think they're saving it because they've got I mean, 448 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 8: they're not going to show anything versus Villanova next week, 449 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 8: but then they've got a buy in a couple of weeks. 450 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: Then they got in that white out. Yeah. 451 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 5: I mean, that's like I said, coming into week one, 452 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 5: and I don't know if you were on to hear this, 453 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: but coming into week one, I think that's what a 454 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 5: lot out of NFL teams had to deal with with 455 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: one another. We don't really know from the preseason what 456 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 5: you're going to get, you know, You get to know 457 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: the personnel, but you don't really get to know what 458 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 5: the plays, what, what the trends, what, what the new formations, 459 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 5: what the new wrinkles, what what those are going to be. 460 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: Everybody has to start getting that on film and then 461 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: you're going to start to see who's who and what's what. 462 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 7: Baltimore, Yeah, one one to bet they're pretty damn good. 463 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but it'll 464 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 5: be better games, I would assume, or at least you're 465 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 5: going to. I'm not going to say better games because 466 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: they were. There were some really good games yesterday. Just 467 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: I think there's going to be a different there's going 468 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 5: to be different outcomes for different teams moving forward. 469 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 470 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 471 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 472 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 473 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: Hey what's up everybody? 474 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 5: It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Arrington, and I 475 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called Up 476 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 5: on Game? 477 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: What is Up on Game? 478 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 5: You asked along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Hutschman 479 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Burris, 480 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: you can only name a show with that type of 481 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 5: talent on it. Up on Game We're going to be 482 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 5: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen 483 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 5: to Up on Game with me LeVar Arrington, TJ. Huschman, Zada, 484 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 5: and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 485 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcast from. 486 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: We had a little bit of revenge in the NFL yesterday. Yeah, 487 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: we did just a tame bit, uh, a little statement 488 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 4: being a. 489 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: Little sweet little sweet three. 490 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: All right, what a game? Aaron Rodgers is back. 491 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 4: Rolls back into MetLife Stadium and forget about the after 492 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: four or plays injury? How about four touchdowns? Rogers gets 493 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: it done. The Steelers go in pick up a big win, 494 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 4: and here he was afterwards talking about what the win 495 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 4: meant for him in his career. 496 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 9: He spoke about the meeting with Alan Glenn McAfee a 497 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 9: few months ago. Beating him is the significance in that sense, 498 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 9: he basically told you to your face that he. 499 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: Didn't think you were right for that team. 500 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 9: Yes, that's what he did, so there are significance in 501 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 9: beating him. For you, I was happy to beat everybody 502 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 9: associated with the Jets. It was nice to win, especially, 503 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 9: you know, hearing some of the cat calls out there 504 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 9: and the Bluebirds. You know, I don't I'm not sensitive 505 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 9: about that. I expected that, you know, I kind of 506 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 9: like that. But there were probably people in the organization 507 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 9: I didn't think I could play anymore. So it was 508 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 9: nice to remind those people that I still can. 509 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 5: Come on, are come on, I mean, it's the Steelers. 510 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: So I'm happy. I'm happy it worked out. Happy it 511 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 5: worked out in the first first week of the season. 512 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 5: I'm just not convinced. 513 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm not. There was very little defense that was played 514 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: in that game. 515 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 5: If I'm either one of those teams, more so the Steelers, 516 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 5: because I mean, i'd say the Jets, they look like 517 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: a different team. They look like a pretty good team, 518 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 5: different than what they have been. 519 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: But I just don't. I'm not convinced. 520 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: If I'm the Steelers, I'm concerned about what that defense 521 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 5: looks like. And for some strange reason, the New York Jets, 522 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: with all that talent that they have, they just don't 523 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 5: really play up to the level or the potential of 524 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 5: the type of talent that they have. 525 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: So to me, listen, don't. I don't want to. 526 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 5: Come off as someone who is down on them. I'm 527 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: just not a believer in it yet. And I said, 528 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: I was just in Pittsburgh. I spent a little time 529 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh. People seem to be very high on the team. 530 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 5: The reports, the reports from Mike Tomlin, the reports from 531 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: the local beat reporters, some people I know that are 532 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 5: in the media that are local, they are they. 533 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: They're calling this all in year. I just didn't. 534 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: I didn't see it that way the way the offseason 535 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: played out. But again, it's Week one. They put up 536 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 5: a lot. Rather them had the performance they did versus 537 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 5: it being different, I'd rather them have had an offensive 538 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: explosion and need to work on the defense. I feel 539 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: more confident in them shoring up what they have to 540 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: do and what's going on with their defense versus their offense. 541 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 5: So to see him ball out there, to see him 542 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 5: go out there and deal and put four touchdowns up 543 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 5: there and fight through to get them to VIC, I 544 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 5: mean good. I'm a Steelers than so I'm gonna be 545 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 5: a hater because that's what we do with Steelers fans. 546 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 5: But ultimately, I mean, they got to win, and they 547 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 5: got it in a hostile environment, and they got it 548 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 5: in Week one and it's an AFC opponent, so it's good. 549 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 5: It's a good, good victory for him. I thought he 550 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 5: looked great, you know. 551 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 8: I thought this was like kind of a you know, 552 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 8: he downplayed it a bit. You know, I'm sure there's 553 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 8: so many things in his mind that are going on 554 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 8: where he wanted this one bad. And so I'm always 555 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 8: rooting for players when that's the case. You know, if 556 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 8: you feel like you've been wrong by organization, you have 557 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 8: the opportunity to go back and stick it right in 558 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 8: their face, you know, for the Jets fans and those 559 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 8: that are booing and all that stuff. 560 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: It's like. 561 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 8: He didn't choose to leave, Like do we all forget 562 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 8: that he gets hurt after four plays his first year there. 563 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 8: He chose to come to you guys, and then the 564 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 8: second year, your ownership decides to fire the coach pretty 565 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 8: much surely, and it's using Madden ratings to help build 566 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 8: a roster. 567 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 7: Like you want to boo him. 568 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: He came to your new. 569 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 8: Head coach, Aaron Glenn, and your new head coach told 570 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 8: him they didn't want him, and you're booing him. How 571 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 8: does that make any sense? I mean, I get it. 572 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 8: He's on the other team. Now, there wasn't a choice. 573 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 8: He wanted to come back. He flew across the country 574 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 8: on his own dime to meet with Aaron Glenn for 575 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 8: what five minutes. So if you want to boo him, fine, 576 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 8: but you gotta lay in this bed that you've made 577 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 8: for yourself being a Jets fan, so you can try 578 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 8: to look at some of the takeaways and sit there 579 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 8: and say, well, you know, the offense looked okay, we 580 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 8: got some talent this team, Yeah you do, but it's 581 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 8: gonna fall apart at some point, Oh damn, because this 582 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 8: is this is a bad organization. And what I chocked 583 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 8: that performance up to and give credit to Justin Fields 584 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 8: and all that, but there's a lot of firsts with 585 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 8: this Jets team, new quarterback in that spot, with that, 586 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 8: we didn't know what was gonna look like. If you're Pittsburgh, 587 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 8: you know, different play caller too, trying to get understanding 588 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 8: what they're trying to do. So all those things I 589 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 8: think to me amounted up to why Pittsburgh. I think 590 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 8: struggled a little bit defensively, but I'm not concerned about 591 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 8: them defensively moving forward. They're still one of the better 592 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 8: defensive teams. They'll get this corrected, They'll get this turned 593 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 8: right back around. I think, if anything, for Steelers fans, 594 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 8: you should be excited. You've got a passing game where 595 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 8: you have I don't know when the last time was 596 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 8: you saw a game like that where your quarterback threw 597 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 8: for four touchdown passes, had complete command of the offense, 598 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 8: and it just looked how it's supposed to look. I mean, 599 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 8: you probably have to go back to Ben Roethlisberger and 600 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 8: maybe a few years back in his time there's a 601 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 8: Steelers quarterback where you felt this confident about the offense. 602 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 8: So I'm excited for Aaron Rodgers. I'm excited for the Steelers, 603 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 8: even though I grew up not liking the Steelers, but 604 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 8: I am a Rogers fan, so I'm excited for him. 605 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: And that was a big moment. 606 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 8: I don't think his emotions, you know, really told the 607 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 8: true story his words to some degree, but not how 608 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 8: much that meant to him. 609 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: I mean, that guy across the field told him, no, 610 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: we're good here, see you, Yeah, we're all good here, 611 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: we're gonna go in another direction. He gets his opportunity 612 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: and he goes out there and does. 613 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: What he bowling up early too, wasn't they. 614 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 4: And then and then you know, to see the way 615 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: the game was iced with Jalen Ramsey making that hit 616 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 4: and knocking the ball out Boswell, you know, hitting that 617 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: sixty yarder, which and look justin Fields did look good. 618 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 4: But the story of that game was Rogers going back 619 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 4: to MetLife and playing the way he did. And he 620 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: was fantastic. 621 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: Man. 622 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 5: I think that's the story for you and maybe a 623 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 5: story for Q. I still think to the rest of 624 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 5: the fielders, well, he played well. I think that it 625 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: was New York versus it was New York versus Pittsburgh, 626 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh versus New York. 627 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: He's an America's quarterback. 628 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that it was a one sided deal. 629 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 5: I think that the idea that they swapped out quarterbacks 630 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 5: was was the storyline. I think that was a story 631 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 5: and it lived up to what it was. Justin Fields 632 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: lived up to what the game presented as well. 633 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: He could have. 634 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 5: He could have easily came out there and not played well, 635 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 5: but he did. He did I mean, he didn't throw 636 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 5: for as many touchdowns, but they were in that game. 637 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 5: And keep in mind, if they don't go for two 638 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 5: points two times, that game is tied. So it's not 639 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 5: like it was like this big discrepancy and that they 640 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 5: came in and they dominated the New York Jets game 641 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 5: one or not. 642 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: Again, I think week one is week one the same. 643 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: The same things we could say about what what can 644 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: be done and what can be determined and figured out 645 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 5: for one could be the same that you could say 646 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: for the other. Now where I will say where I 647 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: will agree is again, this is the Jets, and I 648 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 5: don't know if if yet I'm going to give it 649 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 5: a fair goal because I'm looking at my my my alumni, 650 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 5: my alma mater team, and they seem to have have 651 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 5: changed the culture. 652 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: There seems to have been a culture. 653 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 5: If this seems to be a team that really has 654 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 5: the opportunity to be a good team, I would have 655 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 5: said that that's impossible because talent will never outplay dysfunction. Now, 656 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: if Woody is honoring the fact that Aaron Glenn, which 657 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: it did appear that this is a different type of 658 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 5: a feel in terms of the personality of that team. 659 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 5: They came out there and they looked like a Detroit team. 660 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 5: They did they pounded the ball. You know, Justin Field's 661 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: had a good feel for when to hand the ball 662 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: off and when to run the ball. He made some 663 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 5: good plays, made some good throws. I did not come 664 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 5: away from the game thinking that the New York Jets 665 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 5: are a team that's going to like go downhill from here. 666 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: It looked as though they have a chance to be 667 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: a pretty decent team. 668 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 8: One concern I think you have to have if you 669 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 8: are a Jets fan and you're optimistic, is the amount 670 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 8: of carriers that Field is going to get throughout the year. 671 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: You know, rushing the. 672 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 8: Ball twelve times per game, it's at that's hard. That's 673 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 8: a lot of wear and tear on your quarterback. And 674 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 8: if that's what you feel like you need to do 675 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 8: for him to be effective, so be it. You know, 676 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 8: Justin Field's a big, you know, strong athletic kids so 677 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 8: or young man, so you know he's going to have 678 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 8: every opportunity to be able to do that. But you 679 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 8: know eventually that injury but comes. I don't want to 680 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 8: go back to something in regards to the debut, because 681 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 8: it is someone historic. I don't believe we've ever seen 682 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 8: another quarterback in his first game with that team to 683 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 8: open a season do what Rogers did throw for two 684 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 8: hundred and forty yards four touchdowns with zero interceptions. I 685 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 8: believe that kind of stands alone. Now, we can try 686 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 8: to check this somewhere, but I don't think we've ever had. 687 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: A if you're saying it so. 688 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 8: Well, I've checked some sources, but you know you got 689 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 8: to You got to double double check and triple check. 690 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 5: It's good to set yourself down. That always so somebody. 691 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 5: It always helps. Well, that's what you're you're a professional, 692 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 5: that's what you do. But it helps to have a 693 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: lead to lap. Really, what I'm trying to get to 694 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 5: is a hell sta lead alat who can double check 695 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 5: this and then make it, make sure it has these 696 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 5: stamp of approval. 697 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 4: He can, let me tell you, he can discount double 698 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: chick it, Brady, that's what he came. 699 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 3: Up with, what you came up with. I do not 700 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: believe Lee is going to. 701 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 5: If you're placing your hat on that that you're going 702 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 5: to be good if he double checks it. Good luck 703 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 5: with that, you know, I standard for our show. 704 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: That is very true. 705 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: You know, I do. 706 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: Have you mentioned a little bit of history when it 707 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: comes to the Steelers and we're talking about you know, 708 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 4: Steeler quarterback play and we're talking about you know, Aaron 709 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 4: Rodgers coming out there and throwing four touchdowns. Yeah, you 710 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 4: mentioned it. Seems like it's been a while since we've 711 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 4: seen something like that. I'm a Steelers quarterback. You've got 712 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 4: to go all the way back the year Stillers twenty twenty. 713 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 4: Come on, when people are driving around with n ninety 714 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 4: fives on not six feet of social distancing one play 715 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: toilet paper and only one role at a time, and 716 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 4: having to wipe down their groceries when they brought them 717 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 4: into the house, you gotta go all the way back. Then. 718 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 4: For the last time a Steelers quarterback threw four touchdowns 719 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 4: in a game, and that was the aforementioned Ben Roethlisberger. 720 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 4: So first time in five years we've seen this. 721 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 5: Come on, boss, say this is the same song for 722 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 5: ground Holiday. 723 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it makes it makes sense. 724 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 5: Pucks Tony Phil Right, Yeah, but that's not Western Pennsylvania. 725 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: It's Pennsylvania, dude, it's Ohio. We couldn't find anything else. 726 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 7: Okay, we tried the stealing you gotta pay. 727 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 5: You gotta play the the other Pittsburgh Steelers song, No 728 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 5: not the from similar Yeah, you gotta play uh here 729 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 5: we Go Taylor, you gotta play to Here. 730 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 3: We Go song? 731 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 4: Hey, Lee, you got an update on this uh factoid 732 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 4: that I found? 733 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brady is. 734 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 10: Correct that there hasn't been really an NFL quarterback debuting 735 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 10: with a new team that has thrown for four touchdowns 736 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 10: or has a similar out look. The best I can 737 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 10: find was Will Levis's debut in the NFL, where he 738 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 10: threw four touchdowns as a Titan, and uh, Fernando Mendoza, 739 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 10: an Indiana quarterback, through for four touchdowns against he was 740 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 10: my West saw State and his debut for the Hoosiers 741 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 10: back in twenty Uh, well this this year. 742 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 8: Well that wasn't his debut though he played Old Dominu 743 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 8: last weekly. This is why you have to fact check 744 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 8: those fact checks. 745 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: And that's why you don't have Lee come on and 746 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: do it. This is this is another thing. 747 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 8: Is like that's why you can't That's why you can't 748 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 8: trust Ai because Lee probably went to Grock and like 749 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 8: it's just it's not there yet, Like like I don't 750 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 8: even need to look at anything I can definitively tell you. 751 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 8: Fernando Man was who they got off to a slow 752 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 8: star first old dominion in that game came out the 753 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 8: rough start, did not have that great of it. He 754 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 8: actually didn't even have a touchdown pass in his debut. 755 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 8: He had a rushing touchdown. 756 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 3: That's it? 757 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: How about that? 758 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: And also Will Levis how many yards on that game? 759 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: I don't have that right now? 760 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 8: Like where here's I want to know? Least where'd that 761 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 8: stat go? You looked it up in this shut the 762 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 8: page down? 763 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 10: Croc didn't have that information, Brady. That's why I got you, buddy. 764 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 5: Oh see, he's firing back today. 765 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: He's firing back because it could be this good, it's sober. 766 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 5: This could be indicator of how we were getting lead 767 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 5: from heroing out. Just no, I won't be out of 768 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 5: town forever lead, I just know that. So all that 769 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 5: fire out. 770 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 10: He was nineteen thirty eight yards, four touchdowns, one hundred 771 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 10: and thirty point five passer rating against the Felts. 772 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 8: So not not quite as many yards as Rogers, but 773 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 8: pretty damn close. 774 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: So I just want to know what's it gonna take 775 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 4: to get LeVar back in on the Steelers train. 776 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 2: Like, what's it gonna take? 777 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: And that was what we ate. 778 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 5: It's gonna take a little time. Man, it's gonna take 779 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 5: a little time. I just, you know, cautious optimism. Like 780 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 5: I was very very optimistic about the way the offense played. 781 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 5: DK showed some some real like he he showed why 782 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 5: they brought him there. Like he made some good plays. 783 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 5: I like to play calling, you know, some creative deals. 784 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 5: Who would ever thought? Who was the first guy that 785 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 5: scored the touchdown? Was number seventeen or number fifteen whatever? 786 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 5: I forget his name. I don't know his name, but 787 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 5: the koan was that what I felt like it was 788 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 5: a different name than that. 789 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: Was that his name Ben Scarannick maybe Skarnic Camroonic I comrade. 790 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 7: Well he went to Notre Dame for a year, so okay. 791 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: Well, yes it that sounded more more like his name. 792 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: Anyway, Listen, there were a lot of There was a 793 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 5: lot of positives to take away from what that offense did. 794 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 5: There just wasn't very many positives to take away from 795 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 5: the defense. I mean, Jalen made the big play at 796 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 5: the end of the game. Big play. That was a big, 797 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 5: big play. 798 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 3: Huge. 799 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 5: It's interesting because during that same drive logist the one 800 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 5: call before before he got sacked, Before Fields got sacked, 801 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 5: he could have ran for at least fifteen to twenty 802 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 5: yards on that play, and he didn't see he I 803 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 5: think he saw it late, and then I think he 804 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 5: predetermined that he was going to want to try to 805 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 5: slip through that same opening and try to run it again, 806 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 5: and it led to him he was caught in his 807 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 5: though got sacked. 808 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: I just feel like. 809 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 5: I need more time. I need more time because I 810 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 5: don't want to trust them and get hurt. 811 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 3: I don't want to get hurt by dolt here. I 812 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 3: don't want to get hurt. I don't. I don't. 813 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 5: I don't want to feel false, false enthusiasm and false 814 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 5: hope for what the future could hold for my Pittsburgh. 815 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, LeVar, I do think you're missing the main 816 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 8: point of all this is outside of the Bills, everyone 817 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 8: in the a f C East lost, and I think 818 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 8: if you're if you're, I mean, we're not playing horseshoes 819 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 8: and grenades. If we were, I would say the Jets 820 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 8: looked like the second best team. If we were the 821 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 8: second best team in the FC East, the Dolphins look 822 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 8: the worst Dolphins. 823 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 3: Dolphins look like, and then the Patriots. 824 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 8: The Patriots looked kind of bad too, like, not very 825 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 8: much better than the Dolphins. So if you if you're 826 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 8: if you're worried about your bet in regards to where 827 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 8: the Patriots finished, Now, I know it ultimately doesn't matter. 828 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: They all are finish, but you've got them finishing last. 829 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 3: They probably have Dolphins boned bone. Yeah. 830 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 8: Well, but the Jets are helping you out, so you 831 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,479 Speaker 8: might win that bet because the Patriots look pretty duchy. 832 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 5: Yeah that bad, real rebel cheeks, you know, bad. 833 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, like take a shower after it. 834 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 4: Well, they should focus on their football team stuff, trying 835 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 4: to recruit North Carolina players, you know, tang Yeah, get 836 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 4: your ex on. 837 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 7: The other all right, if we're going to venture there, 838 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 7: do we want to talk about this? 839 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 5: Well? 840 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: Lee has an update, by the way, he Alway does. 841 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes what so? 842 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, even a better stat here if we're actually talking 843 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 10: about debuts with a new team. Fran Tarkenton in sixty 844 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 10: one threw for four touchdowns and ran for one September seventeenth, 845 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,720 Speaker 10: nineteen sixty one, and Marcus Mariota threw for four touchdowns 846 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 10: in his NFL debut as well. 847 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 7: Hello, Okay, but we're not. 848 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 3: But that's not what a new team. Yeah, we're with 849 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 3: the new team. 850 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 5: I know. 851 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 10: I'm just saying you were right that it was You 852 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 10: were right, Brady, you were right. But I did find 853 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 10: the closest thing that was where the Yeah. 854 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 8: Well you already have listened Will Levis, But that was 855 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 8: a week eight of that series that was we get correct. 856 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 7: So you're saying Marcus Murray in his first game for 857 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 7: that team? 858 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 11: Yes? 859 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 7: Or is that what week was that ninth? 860 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 10: It was September thirteenth, Week one versus Tampa Bay and 861 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 10: fran Tarkenton came off the bench in September seventeenth, so 862 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 10: that might have been week. 863 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: Two, or it could have been week one one, And yeah, 864 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 2: through for four ran for one and man the Dolphins. 865 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:23,959 Speaker 3: Rough. 866 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: Oh boy, Tyreek Hill. 867 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 3: Looks already frustrated. 868 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean how long does he last right 869 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 5: throughout that? 870 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 3: And last? How long does he last? 871 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 12: Mike McDaniel that, oh the Wills is off, said, you're 872 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 12: going to ride it to the Wills fall off. 873 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 5: The Wills might be off in week one, Yeah, they 874 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: might be off. 875 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 12: And week they were atrocious in that Again, you made 876 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 12: it and then you make a team like the Colts 877 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 12: look like they looked and the dude was doing the 878 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 12: celebration that the guy there's this this social media influencer 879 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 12: that that does these dances, and one of his dances 880 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 12: is he gets on his back and he starts like 881 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 12: doing this weird. 882 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 5: Movement and he'll do it all the way into a 883 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 5: grocery store and then pop up and then go walk 884 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 5: like that never happened, right, And this dude did that 885 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 5: is his like his celebration when he got an interception 886 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 5: in the game. But I just, you know, I look 887 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 5: at this team and it's like, should we think that 888 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 5: the Colts, because the Colts have potentially been a team 889 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 5: that should be better than what they are. 890 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 3: They should be good. 891 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 5: Like last year, I thought they would be much better 892 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 5: than what they were, especially defensively speaking. 893 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: But in my mind, when I saw. 894 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 5: The way they played and looked at the way the 895 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 5: game went, and can you say that, Okay, maybe this 896 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 5: Coats team has a chance to be really good. And 897 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 5: that's why the quarterbacks situation is so, you know, it's 898 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 5: so critical to their season that they get the right 899 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 5: guy in there. And maybe that's why they didn't start 900 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 5: out with Anthony Richardson, because they felt like, look, we 901 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 5: got a defense that can carry us. We don't need 902 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 5: an offense that is going to hurt us. And if 903 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 5: you're going to be a player that could possibly potentially 904 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 5: hurt us, we don't need that right now. We need 905 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 5: somebody who's going to manage the game and do what 906 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 5: they need to do in a way where you know, 907 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 5: we have a chance to win the game at the 908 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 5: end of games. I felt like that was the you know, 909 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 5: that was the recipe in this game for the Colts. 910 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 3: And I had to wonder to myself. 911 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 5: Is this a good team or is this a good 912 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 5: Is this a team that beat up on a very 913 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 5: very bad team. Yeah, I didn't know which one to 914 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 5: really settle in on that one. 915 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 4: That one you just said, like, Miami looks awful. They 916 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 4: made New Orleans look like a wild card team. They 917 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 4: think the worst team in the league yesterday, And I mean, look, that's. 918 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 3: What that's what O gage is, Like you hit twenty one, 919 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 3: I'm over. 920 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 4: I mean there's one of the yea like Mercy ruled, 921 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 4: Like there's one of those like that. Would you know 922 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: the stories in the off season, there were rumblings and oh, 923 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 4: you know, Mike McDaniel lost the locker room. 924 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: The veterans were tired of it, you. 925 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 4: Know, the Tua Tyreek Hill stuff. It just seems like 926 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 4: there's no real answers there. And I don't I don't know, 927 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 4: man like Daniel Jones, I think the stat was he 928 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 4: they scored on every drive. I think they're like seven 929 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 4: for seven on scoring drives. So it's not even just offensively, 930 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 4: they looked bad. Defensively, they got chewed up and spit. 931 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 2: Out, and I it just feels like this one's going 932 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 2: to go sideways in a hurry and so. 933 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 7: Well, and and that's the that's the hard part, I think. 934 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 7: And maybe tell me if I'm wrong. 935 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 8: But when you're in a place like Miami, where there's 936 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 8: already a ton of distractions and other things to do, 937 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 8: I feel like it tends to be a little bit 938 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 8: more of a slippery slope once you start that slide. 939 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 8: Do you get know, in all seriousness, like, do you 940 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 8: guys agree with that? Because I just I do feel like, 941 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 8: you know, one of the players I don't know who 942 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 8: was talking postgame from Green Bay, Detroit, but they're imagining me. 943 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 8: They literally said, hey, man, there's nothing else to do 944 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 8: up here. We just lock in like we're ready to go. 945 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 8: And it's like, that's not the case of the dolphins. 946 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 8: There's a bunch of other things to do, and there's 947 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 8: other places like that as well. But I just I 948 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 8: look at it, and I say, like, I wonder how 949 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 8: much when things don't go right, how quickly guys look 950 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 8: to other avenues to get away from it, which is 951 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 8: much easier to do in Miami than somewhere else. 952 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 5: Never seeing somebody climb back up a slippery slope once 953 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 5: slipping down it, never seen it. 954 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe Grock knows, but I've known. 955 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 4: I mean, so basically guys are looking around, going all right, 956 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 4: I can go down to Ocean Ave or I can 957 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 4: stay back and you know, catch catch on the jugs 958 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 4: machine for a little bit. 959 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 5: It ain't ocean in the tutsis and you know King 960 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 5: of Diamonds KOD stuff like that. 961 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: You know, the Ocean Ave KOD that's tourism. 962 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, l r P k O. D ain't there anymore. 963 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 5: I don't know whatever, Yeah, there's something there. I know, 964 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 5: Tootsies is there. I mean, I heard, I heard, I. 965 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 2: Heard that the nfl p E does their meetings. 966 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah? That is. 967 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 968 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 969 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. 970 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: Eastern three am Pacific. 971 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 4: We welcome in the one and only Pte Prisco, senior 972 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 4: NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ Analyst. If 973 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 4: you want the smoke on social media, you can get 974 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 4: it at Prisco CBS on xp EAT. 975 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, Happy Monday. 976 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 13: What's up, guys. 977 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 11: How are you hey, Pete? 978 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 13: Good weekend, Good weekend of football. 979 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, Pete, we were actually waiting for you 980 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 8: to just segue into how great that game was last night. 981 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,760 Speaker 5: They all played, They all played, They all played, Pete. 982 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 13: Was there anybody who didn't play yesterday? Anybody? 983 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 8: They all There's some backups who didn't play, But yeah, 984 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 8: there I'm. 985 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 13: Talking about anybody in a contract situation who didn't play 986 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 13: on opening anybody. 987 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 8: Even Cam, even Cam Hayward got his his restructure contract 988 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 8: down before the start of it. 989 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 13: They all play. 990 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 11: Never forget it. 991 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 3: And you were aide of that, bet, Pete. Yeah, what that? 992 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 3: What that? 993 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 5: We're on the You were on the right side of 994 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 5: that prediction, bet Pete. 995 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 13: And I liked my prediction for the Super Bowl too 996 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 13: after yesterday. What is Buffalo over Green Bay? 997 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's not bad. It's not bad choice. 998 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 13: That is na fantastic last night it was. And how 999 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 13: do you look at it? You look at it as 1000 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 13: a comeback or a choke? 1001 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 8: Well, the fumble hole the tip ball ends up being 1002 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 8: a touchdown pass to Coleman. I mean, there are some 1003 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 8: things that for sure went Buffalo's way. And let me 1004 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 8: ask you this, Pete, because I brought this up earlier. 1005 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 8: It bothered me when Buffalo did it at the time, 1006 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 8: and then Sean McDermott kind of, you know, changed course. 1007 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 3: But also I think that was just due to to 1008 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 3: where they were in the game. 1009 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 8: Down fifteen, you score a touchdown, are you going for 1010 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 8: two or not? 1011 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 11: No? 1012 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So why did you do it in the third quarter? 1013 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 2: Then? 1014 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 8: Because usually this is something that you you specifically used 1015 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 8: to do with Belichick all the time. 1016 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 3: You know, you used to say. 1017 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 14: Everyone thinks that he's a GENI yes, and that he 1018 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 14: makes these sorts of decisions and it's like it's stupid, 1019 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 14: it doesn't make any sense. He's Bill the greatest coach ever, 1020 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 14: Bill Belichick, and look what he does, So why not why. 1021 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 3: Don't do that? Why don't you do with Sean McDermott 1022 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 3: right now? 1023 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 13: Well, I mean, I'm I thought, I thought the decision 1024 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 13: to when you when you kick the extra point, and 1025 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 13: then you went for two with stupid two, and so 1026 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 13: you end up chasing it the whole time. 1027 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 8: I think, well, they they didn't do that in the 1028 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 8: fourth quarter though they scored the touchdown, they kicked the 1029 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 8: pat so they were only down one score. But I 1030 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 8: guess the point is, like, if you don't get that 1031 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 8: two point conversion, now it's a two score game or 1032 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 8: two possession game, I should. 1033 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 11: Say which is right? 1034 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 13: And I don't understand that. And everybody always says, well, 1035 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 13: the analytics say you should do this, this and this. 1036 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 13: You ended up chasing yourself. You chase your tail and 1037 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 13: just do it the right do it the right way. 1038 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 13: And you know, the analytics supposedly say the Ravens should 1039 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 13: have gone for it on fourth and three at the 1040 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 13: end of the game. What seriously, I mean, you go, 1041 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 13: you don't get this air and you kick a field 1042 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 13: goal the game's over. That would have been I mean, 1043 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 13: they do play defense in this league. You know there 1044 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 13: are or at least you think they can. They didn't 1045 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 13: in the last quarter of that game. But I just 1046 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 13: think sometimes we get too caught up. And here's the 1047 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 13: other thing about the analytics. I say it all the time. 1048 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 13: Every game is not the same, every play is not 1049 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 13: the same, every team is not the same. So the analytics, 1050 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 13: you can't just throw a blanket blanket analytics out there 1051 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 13: and say, oh, look this it's fourth and three, as 1052 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 13: you go for it, what if your left tackle third. 1053 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 11: Right? Yeah, I go. 1054 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 13: But so I thought they ended up chasing it the 1055 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 13: whole time and that they could have backfired on them. 1056 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 11: They got it. 1057 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 13: Look they got a miracle win because and it didn't 1058 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 13: backfire on them, But it was the wrong I always 1059 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 13: think it's the wrong decision. 1060 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 5: Let me ask you about the I mean, we saw 1061 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 5: a lot of games that there were moments that shifted 1062 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 5: the game. I mean the fumble on the kickoff and 1063 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 5: the Jets Steelers game, you know, the catch by the 1064 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 5: receiver the tight end, and the Niners game. We just 1065 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 5: talked about the situation and the Bills game. I mean 1066 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 5: in week one. In Week one, how I mean, especially 1067 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 5: with the way preseasons go. Now, Pete, how much do 1068 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 5: you place in terms of if you think a team 1069 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 5: is good or if a team isn't so good in 1070 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 5: week one? I mean, can you definitively in your mind 1071 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 5: see a team during week one and say, yep, they're 1072 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 5: the one. I mean you did just say, I said 1073 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 5: Buffalo and Green Bay. So maybe you already answered the question. 1074 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 5: But how possible is that or how how how how 1075 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 5: plausible is it to say you can see how good 1076 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 5: a team is in week one of the season. 1077 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 13: Well, you have an idea going in, but I think 1078 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 13: you know, the first month of the season is for 1079 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 13: feeling things out. I don't think you can really say 1080 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 13: definitively that somebody is a really good team until you 1081 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 13: get into mid October. 1082 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 11: That's me. 1083 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 13: That's always been my feeling on it. I mean, yeah, 1084 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 13: you got some teams. 1085 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,760 Speaker 7: That play with Baltimore and Buffalo are really good teams. 1086 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 11: They are okay, you know, no, but you saw. 1087 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 7: All easy LeVar question. 1088 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 5: Hey, but you is always instigating and protagon all right, 1089 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 5: so you creating two minutes? 1090 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 3: Good? 1091 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 13: Oh he's instigating, of course he is. But but no, 1092 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 13: you have an idea who's good but I'm saying, like, Okay, 1093 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 13: say there's a team that looks good in the first 1094 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 13: two weeks of the season, and you have in the 1095 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 13: back of your head you go, I'm not so sure 1096 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 13: they really are that good. We can't really decide if 1097 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 13: they are until mid October. 1098 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 11: I will say this one thing. 1099 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 13: You notice, aside from Allen, I think Geno Smith, Herbert 1100 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 13: and so we didn't There aren't a lot of big 1101 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,439 Speaker 13: passing games anymore early in the season. And I think 1102 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,720 Speaker 13: that's because you know how teams play that off coverage 1103 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 13: all the time now and they may be patient, yeah, yeah, 1104 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 13: they play they make you be patient, and a lot 1105 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 13: of these quarterbacks don't like to be patient. And I 1106 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 13: think it's kind of changed the big numbers in the 1107 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 13: passing game. And I don't you know, I don't know 1108 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 13: if that's going to change going forward or if it 1109 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 13: can change, but I think that's something to keep an 1110 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 13: eye on, is is all the all the teams that 1111 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 13: don't really you know, throw the football and we're getting 1112 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 13: back to maybe teams running the ball. You saw Henry 1113 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 13: Travis etn had a big day, you know, So I 1114 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 13: wonder if that's going to kind of ease back a 1115 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 13: little bit as we get throughout the season. But early 1116 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 13: in the season you didn't see a lot of passing numbers, 1117 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 13: and Brady, I think in college football for your guys. 1118 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 11: Over there, they're not doing it either. 1119 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 13: They're not putting up big passing numbers either. 1120 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 7: Well, it depends on what you're talking about. 1121 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know that i'd use Iowa iways 1122 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 8: stay where I was at this weekend as an indication 1123 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 8: of that. But I do want to ask a more 1124 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 8: general question, and not to skip over your Johns because 1125 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 8: I think you were up, But which team did you 1126 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 8: come away after Week one more optimistic about? And which 1127 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 8: team did you come away after Week one a little 1128 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 8: bit like, oh that could be a problem this year. 1129 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 13: Well, more optimistic about the Packers than I was, and 1130 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 13: I thought they would be a super Bowl team. 1131 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 11: But I okay, well, here's why I. 1132 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 13: Thought they'd be a super Bowl team before they got Parsons, 1133 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 13: but in large part because I thought a lot of 1134 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 13: young players are to take their game up. I think 1135 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 13: you saw Van Ness improve all summer, and he showed 1136 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 13: it in the game. I think Edwin Cooper is going 1137 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 13: to be a star, and we saw that in the game. 1138 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 13: So a lot of those younger players on that team 1139 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 13: before Parsons, I thought they were going to take the net. 1140 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 13: Wyatt played, made some big plays another guy, So you 1141 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 13: saw young players taking steps forward, and that's usually a 1142 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 13: sign of a team that's going to be better. So 1143 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 13: they were better on defense even with Parsons, than I. 1144 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 11: Thought they were going to be. So that's a good side. 1145 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 13: And then a team that concerns me more so than 1146 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,760 Speaker 13: I thought that would be concerned about, probably the Texans, 1147 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 13: in large part because of the offensive line. I don't 1148 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 13: think they really solved it, and they've addressed it and 1149 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 13: they've made it. And yes, they had to adjust a 1150 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 13: little bit yesterday when the right guard who ed Ingram 1151 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 13: was supposed to start at right guard didn't play, so 1152 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 13: they moved guys around. But it's not like ed Ingram is, 1153 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,399 Speaker 13: you know, Zach Martin in his prime either. 1154 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 11: He's not a very good player. 1155 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 13: So I think their offensive line is going to be 1156 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 13: a problem for the Texans, and it's going to be 1157 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 13: a problem for CJ. Strout all season long. 1158 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 4: All right, Pete Prisco, I got something for you, all right. 1159 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,479 Speaker 4: So the Denver Broncos are up twenty to twelve. Yeah, 1160 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 4: it's a fourth and eight at the Titans thirty six 1161 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 4: yard line with one oh four left, and Sean Payton 1162 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 4: goes for it and bo Nicks throws deep. 1163 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 2: What the hell was that? 1164 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 13: I have no We were sitting there in the green 1165 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 13: room watching that, and I'm like, what the hell is 1166 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 13: he doing? I mean, it made no There's of all 1167 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 13: the things you could possibly do in that scenario, that 1168 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 13: one made no sense. 1169 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 11: Zero. 1170 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 2: I mean, try the field goal or punted down right 1171 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 2: and pin them deep. 1172 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 13: If you try the field goal in altitude, that's like 1173 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 13: ten yards less. I mean you got to kick the 1174 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 13: field goal to go up eleven. 1175 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 11: In that situation. I'm with you. 1176 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 13: And if you miss the field goal, then okay, then 1177 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 13: they're at the spot where you just try to hit 1178 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 13: a shot down the field. It made no sense to me. 1179 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 13: And by the way, I haven't watched the all twenty 1180 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 13: two of that, but it looks like he picked the 1181 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 13: wrong guy because the other guy across the field is 1182 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 13: wide wide open. Yeah, so you know, and and you know, 1183 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 13: if you said that to Sean Payton said, well, look, 1184 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 13: this guy's wide open. He picked the wrong guy. Well, 1185 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 13: he's still got to hit the pack and pick the 1186 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 13: right guy and the whole deal. 1187 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 11: I'm with you. 1188 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 13: That was a bad decision and you know it could 1189 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 13: have backfired on him. It didn't. They got away with it, 1190 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 13: but kicked the field goal there and go up eleven. 1191 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 11: It made no sense, Pete. 1192 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 5: Uh, did you see the block that the tight end 1193 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 5: of the Jacksonville Jaguars made on on the run play 1194 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 5: Like it was like kind of like a counter power 1195 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 5: or something like that. 1196 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, he blasted the guy. 1197 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 3: Did you like that? I mean that that was Penn Stater. 1198 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 5: I just figured bring it up and make that final 1199 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 5: for you. 1200 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 13: Hey, let me tell you something, La, that Pencicator is 1201 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 13: a damn football player. 1202 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 11: He's a really he's a really. 1203 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 13: Good football player because he's he's going to be a 1204 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 13: pass catching guy. He had fifty I think he had 1205 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 13: fifty something strange and he's one of the best. 1206 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 11: He's one of the best. 1207 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 3: If you shut up, yeah, it took your walk. 1208 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, and he's going to be he's he's got one 1209 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 11: of the best. 1210 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 3: Let the man answered the question to you, go ahead, Pete. Well, 1211 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 3: he's kind of like on our party, Like why is 1212 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 3: he interrupting us all the time? Man? Cam and you 1213 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 3: have a conversation. 1214 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 13: Uh, yes, we can, LeVar, we can. 1215 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 3: Let's who is this guy? Man, let's go put him 1216 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 3: in the corner. 1217 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 5: Man like, oh come on, yeah, okay, go ahead, go ahead, finished. 1218 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 13: Okay, But LaVar LeVar, Yes, he's a guy they're expecting 1219 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 13: the expecting really big things from him in the passing game. 1220 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 13: But more than that, he's one of the best blocking 1221 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 13: tight ends in the league and he's been there for 1222 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 13: for a couple of years. And that was one block. 1223 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 13: But he also he also had the block on etn 1224 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 13: seventy yard run where he kicked out the guy too. 1225 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 13: So yeah, that's it. I'll tell you what he keep 1226 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 13: an eye on him. Is the guy that could be 1227 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 13: in the mix for catching sixty passes and and maybe 1228 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 13: having six six seven touchdowns. But more than that, he's 1229 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 13: just a really bruising blocker of the run. 1230 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 3: I had one for. 1231 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 8: You, and then Jones Is got to clean it up. 1232 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 8: And this is about another Penn Stater I want to 1233 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 8: ask you about. I'm just kidding, I don't ask Let's 1234 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,919 Speaker 8: go to the Let's let's get to met life, Rogers, 1235 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 8: the Jets fields. I know you're a big Rogers fan. 1236 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 8: I want to say, you're a little pessimistic though about 1237 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 8: him joining the Steelers. He just had arguably the greatest 1238 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 8: debut we've ever seen for a quarterback with a new 1239 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 8: team starting the season. How do you feel about Rogers 1240 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 8: in this one? But also how'd you feel about Justin Fields? 1241 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 13: Well? I wasn't pessimistic about Rogers. I was pessimistic more 1242 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 13: so about the Mealers as a whole. 1243 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 11: No, I wasn't because I'm the one. 1244 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 7: You were on the wrong side of that one. Let's 1245 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 7: just put it that way. 1246 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 3: Good. 1247 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 11: No, I wasn't. 1248 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 13: I was the one pre I preached all summer. I said, 1249 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 13: he's the last eight games of the season, he played 1250 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 13: like Aaron Rodgers last year, and he had more touchdown passes. 1251 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 13: I've said this on the show than Herbert and Mahomes. 1252 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 13: And he had the same number of touchdown passes as 1253 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 13: Alan last year. So you're wrong, Brady. 1254 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 11: You're trying to why they him? 1255 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Then? 1256 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 7: Why they brought him when he comes back to met Life. 1257 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 13: Because they blew everybody in New York. 1258 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 11: They're nasty. Of course they're going to pool them. 1259 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 13: I mean, why not. They would boo me if they 1260 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 13: had any chance. He probably throws stuff. 1261 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 15: At Yes, we got I and by the way, and 1262 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 15: by the way, Rogers. 1263 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 13: Rogers comments after the game were just vintage, by the way, 1264 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 13: a little needle at him and anything. 1265 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 11: I could play. 1266 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,919 Speaker 13: And I came in and showed him I play. 1267 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 3: I love that. 1268 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 13: I love the fact that he did that. 1269 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 11: He was good. 1270 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 13: You know, Look, it wasn't great. He didn't There weren't 1271 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 13: a lot of passes going. 1272 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,479 Speaker 11: Down the field. 1273 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 13: But it was darn good for him in this first 1274 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 13: game for the Steelers, and as far as on the 1275 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 13: other side feels, it's a good thing he really did. 1276 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 13: I didn't like the two point play decision. I mean, 1277 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 13: sown in the triple coverage. 1278 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 11: That was thing. 1279 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 13: Get him on the perimeter, get him on the perimeter, 1280 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 13: let him use his legs. 1281 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 11: A little bit. 1282 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 13: I didn't like that call at all. But all in all, 1283 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 13: I thought Fields was okay, you know, better than okay, 1284 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 13: and I thought Rogers was good. And then you know, 1285 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 13: but as good as he was, it took the sixty 1286 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 13: yard field goal to win the game. I mean, that's 1287 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 13: not like he you know, went up and down the 1288 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 13: field on him and let him out. But it was 1289 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 13: good for Rogers and by the way Brady quit putting 1290 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 13: word in my mouth. I never said that about Rogers. 1291 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 13: I said the Steelers. The Steelers got to run the 1292 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,959 Speaker 13: ball better than they have and they got to play 1293 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:30,439 Speaker 13: better teams. 1294 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, very pessimistic about Rogers, the Steelers the whole. 1295 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 3: I trust me. 1296 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 8: I remember this because you were You and I were 1297 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 8: both emphatic that things he was going to turn things 1298 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 8: around New York. 1299 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 7: It didn't happen. 1300 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 8: And now you're kind of like, I mean, you guys 1301 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 8: have to understand for people don't know. I worked with 1302 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 8: Pete for a long time. Pete would gush about Aaron Rodgers. 1303 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 8: He would pick Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers 1304 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 8: win the Super Bowl, like for like five years straight 1305 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 8: because he's being like, they got Rogers, they got Rogers, 1306 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 8: they got Rogers. Like every year he'd say the same thing. 1307 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 8: And this was the first time where I really didn't 1308 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 8: hear you gushing about him joining the Steelers on what 1309 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 8: their chances would be or how I would elevate their chances. 1310 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 13: Well, I thought he would play well. I just didn't 1311 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 13: think the Steelers were good enough. How's that? And now 1312 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 13: the way I watched them on the other day, they 1313 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 13: still weren't great on defense and Steelers and they still 1314 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 13: art consistently running the ball, So you know, there's still 1315 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 13: even though they won that game, there's still questions about that. 1316 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 13: But he played well, and I thought he would play 1317 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 13: well because he's Aaron Rodgers. 1318 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 2: Hey, Pete, what's the question? 1319 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 3: Pete? 1320 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 4: What's uh? What's the game you lost yesterday that you 1321 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 4: were on the right side of? Still, even though you. 1322 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 13: Lost, well, anybody and I picked them. I picked the Bills, 1323 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 13: So I think that's a gift. I'll take that gift, okay, 1324 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 13: because I picked the Bills, it was and you had 1325 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 13: no business yet if. 1326 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 7: You had answer answer the question, though, Pete, what I 1327 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 7: talking about? 1328 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 3: When you got right? 1329 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 13: I'm trying to think which one did I come on? 1330 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 7: I beat you the past two years of DA so 1331 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 7: it's gotta be. 1332 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 13: One the face, Okay. 1333 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 11: I had to say, you're. 1334 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 13: On the right side of the shots into the end 1335 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 13: zone to go to overtime? Are you hit the shot? 1336 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Had you bet the Saints? 1337 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 11: No? 1338 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 13: I had to say, I picked the Saints as one 1339 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 13: of my picks. 1340 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 11: Why are you laughing at? 1341 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 13: Why are you laughing at? 1342 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 4: That? 1343 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 13: They had they were think I had the ball he 1344 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 13: should have caught the. 1345 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 11: Ball in the end zone. 1346 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: What was the line six? Was it six in that game? 1347 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1348 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 13: Six? 1349 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 2: And so you were on the right side of that. 1350 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,959 Speaker 7: But they were lucky to be in that game. 1351 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 8: At the end of it, they're getting their asses kicked 1352 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 8: for the in the first half, first three quarters. 1353 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 13: Brady, what was happening at the end of the game. 1354 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 13: He had four shots into the end zone at the 1355 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 13: end of the game. One of them was in the 1356 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 13: guy's hands go to over. 1357 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 8: So you're so you're telling me you were You were 1358 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 8: on the wrong side of that one. 1359 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,439 Speaker 13: No, I was on the right side of that one, 1360 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 13: the right side. 1361 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 7: Excuse me, I had But you're the best. 1362 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 3: You're the best. 1363 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 13: We used to do our picture, know you beat me 1364 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 13: one year? 1365 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 7: I beat No, you never beat me. Pete, I beat 1366 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 7: you every single year. And by the way, you and 1367 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 7: Can just took els the entire last two years. 1368 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 13: I'm off to a great start. I think I went 1369 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 13: eleven and eleven and four so far with my pick. 1370 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 1371 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 13: How about that? 1372 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good, Pete. 1373 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 11: And and and that was on the right side the same. 1374 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 2: To make that twelve wins? 1375 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 4: Uh, Pete always fun get him on X at Prisco, CBS, 1376 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 4: Senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports h Q 1377 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 4: analyst here on F s R. 1378 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 5: Thanks Pete Brady, I beat you. 1379 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 7: You did not stop lying, man. 1380 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 2: We almost got him to drop an S bomb on 1381 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 2: the air. 1382 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 3: It was close. 1383 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Mondays with him are going to be wild by the 1384 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 2: way we just tr