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Speaker 1: Problem solved, but Don Tyler Murray that defender is in

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Speaker 1: multiple pieces. All that was nasty right there? Rights the

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Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who covered the teams.

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Speaker 1: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on,

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Speaker 1: Break it on. Slammed the ground by foota baker like

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Speaker 1: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I scared

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Speaker 1: and nobody here's Paul Calvc. Now I realize it's ot

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Speaker 1: as even here on Cardinals Underground. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if this is going to be a race of any sore.

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Speaker 1: But who's going to be the first to work in

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Speaker 1: a line? Dare I say? At cliche from Top Gun,

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Speaker 1: whether then or now, who's going to be the first

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Speaker 1: one to say that you feel the need for speed

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Speaker 1: in running an up tempo edition of this podcast, Darren Urban,

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Speaker 1: Danny serecting yours truly, PAULI, Pennsilvana, Obviously you're just one. Paul, Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Game over. Even get a chance, Well, at least I'll

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Speaker 1: be your wingman. So that's good. Okay, I'll let you guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys can go ahead and take the controls. I'll

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Speaker 1: just merely be the wingman around here. So you guys

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Speaker 1: have seen it is the story of my life. I

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Speaker 1: tried multiple times. I went online, try to find a

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Speaker 1: ticket to the new Top Gun this weekend. Fail. God,

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Speaker 1: and you guys actually got in, you know, because maybe

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Speaker 1: you're maybe you're organized. I don't know. I wait till

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Speaker 1: a big screen, big big screen, But no such luck.

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Speaker 1: I'm holding out. I'm holding out for the big IMAX

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Speaker 1: experience if I can. If I can't, it's I could

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Speaker 1: see that it'd be worth it. But it was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: an action part. So that's a fair fair thing. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a good movie. It's good. Vote from

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Speaker 1: the eighteen to thirty four demo. There you go, and

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Speaker 1: I vote for the older demo. First movie I've seen

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Speaker 1: He's maybe aged three point five years versus thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: Attractions where the new Mission Impossible is coming out with

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Speaker 1: of this and the JJ wat dilemma was what Danny

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Speaker 1: It's a moving target. DJ, you answered that question quite

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Speaker 1: There was actual news regarding DeAndre Hopkins from Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: The bigger news was just him confirming again wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: you know, and look, if you want to talk about happenings.

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Speaker 1: And I can't believe that I didn't realize that Cliff

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Speaker 1: at least you know, the next few years. Right. They

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Speaker 1: it's not retiring. Come on. This was always about trying

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Speaker 1: is are you? Are you? I guess it's the nice

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Speaker 1: mister Triple Crown winner this past year and the best

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Speaker 1: he's like in the off season, I don't I don't

425
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Speaker 1: take off more than three days in a row. He said,

426
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Speaker 1: I was in here working out the day after the

427
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Speaker 1: season ended. So that's his mentality that that is JJ.

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Speaker 1: I would also like to think that it's probably different

429
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Speaker 1: if you're Kyler Murray JJ Watt, the types of movie

430
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Speaker 1: you're working on at this point in the off season.

431
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Speaker 1: It might be a little easier for Kyler if he's

432
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Speaker 1: working on throwing down in Dallas, you know, buy himself

433
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Speaker 1: with the zone coaches, and it would probably make more

434
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Speaker 1: sense for JJ and want to be out here with

435
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Speaker 1: all the equipment. Like, there's so many different things I

436
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Speaker 1: think that come into play when you're just trying to

437
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Speaker 1: make an assumption of JJ Watts out here. He said

438
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Speaker 1: it was so important. You only get better by playing,

439
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: you know. It's just it's different for every person. And

440
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Speaker 1: that is how JJ started his statement, And this is

441
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Speaker 1: what he's learned over the years. Has worked best for

442
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Speaker 1: him is staying on track, because he said, once you

443
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Speaker 1: get off the track, if you're taking a month off

444
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the off season, it is that

445
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Speaker 1: much harder to get back on track. And he also said,

446
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Speaker 1: as part of that explanation in the last month whenever

447
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Speaker 1: that was that because he missed more than half the season,

448
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Speaker 1: he felt compelled to be there the day after this

449
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Speaker 1: season ended. Now, if he would have wrapped up another

450
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Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Player of the Year campaign and he had

451
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Speaker 1: played all seventeen games in the playoffs and you know,

452
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Speaker 1: and it played a thousand snaps, then okay, I'm guessing

453
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Speaker 1: he would have taken a three week Bahama vacation and

454
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: he would have earned it. And look, just the fact

455
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Speaker 1: of the way the season played out, to his own admission,

456
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Speaker 1: he felt compelled to be there the day after the

457
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Speaker 1: season ended to make sure that he's ready to go

458
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Speaker 1: for this season. I mean, again, I get to think

459
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Speaker 1: part of it is him, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think if he had played more, maybe that changes

461
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Speaker 1: the equation. But all these guys are going to be different,

462
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of how it just plays out. I mean,

463
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Speaker 1: zach Ertz is on the Newest Day Pass podcast, which

464
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Speaker 1: will be dropping soon, and you know, zach Ertz is

465
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Speaker 1: the same kind of guy. He wants to be around

466
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Speaker 1: the facility most of the time, and he's got a

467
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Speaker 1: kindred spirit and JJ Watt and they've connected, which is nice.

468
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Speaker 1: But not everybody's going to be like that. And it's

469
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Speaker 1: one of those things where and I know we talked

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Speaker 1: about it last week, but I don't at this point,

471
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Speaker 1: I've watched this long enough. It's less about the process

472
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Speaker 1: to me than the end result. If somebody can get

473
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Speaker 1: to wherever they need to get to, however they get there,

474
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Speaker 1: I don't care. Now. If you're not doing something and

475
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Speaker 1: you're not producing, then you're you're going to feel the wrath,

476
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Speaker 1: whether you are here for all the OTAs or you're not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Kyler was here for the entire offseason

478
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Speaker 1: and they still have the end of the season, I

479
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Speaker 1: don't know what everybody's gonna bitch about, but they're still

480
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Speaker 1: gonna be mad at him for not playing well. And

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Speaker 1: then what do you point to. It can't be what

482
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Speaker 1: he wasn't around for a chunk of the off season.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I'll give you an example. Look at

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Speaker 1: last year's Week one, and remember some of the consternation

485
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Speaker 1: in August about oh jeez, you're not running much in

486
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Speaker 1: your offense, and I remember all the media blowback and

487
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: just too vanilla, and don't you need to finalize and

488
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Speaker 1: formalize a lot of this kind of stuff and make

489
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Speaker 1: sure it's ready to go and knock the rust off.

490
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Speaker 1: And instead Cliff Kingsbury is more inclined to keep that

491
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Speaker 1: stuff hidden and just run something ultra generic during the preseason.

492
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Speaker 1: Now he did it to a much greater degree is

493
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Speaker 1: first year, but he still does it to a large degree.

494
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Speaker 1: So what happens in Week one in Nashville Cardinals? Come on?

495
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: Just Jack stopped the Titans? And did he not work

496
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Speaker 1: in a little snarky Well, what's the preseason mean? Now? Guys?

497
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Speaker 1: You know, I mean he kind of and he earned it.

498
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Speaker 1: They went out there and they smashed the Titans, and

499
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Speaker 1: he said, now, what do you guys think about the

500
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Speaker 1: importance of the preseason. So to your point, Darren, you

501
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Speaker 1: could be at every OTA and you can come out

502
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Speaker 1: on the first day of pads in training camp and

503
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Speaker 1: get your butt kicked and it's not gonna matter. Or

504
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Speaker 1: you go out in Week one this year against Kansas

505
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Speaker 1: City and guess what, no one's gonna remember the OTAs

506
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Speaker 1: or mandatory mini camp or training camp if you don't

507
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Speaker 1: produce and perform when the regular season kicks off. When

508
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Speaker 1: thinking about JJ Watts's work ethic, I think that would

509
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Speaker 1: be Darren in our department. Why thank you? There there

510
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Speaker 1: was a pause, and then I'm like, oh, yeah, that's

511
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Speaker 1: a good thing, right, Okay, No, it's not a good

512
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Speaker 1: thing when you're not the Bickerson's it's not a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you that right now. But you're right,

514
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Speaker 1: I will. I will admit that, Yes, Darren. I think

515
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Speaker 1: Darren earlier today said he's gonna be on vacation unless

516
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Speaker 1: I'm needed on Friday. You can call me and I

517
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Speaker 1: will be ready to work. Reality credit the middle part

518
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Speaker 1: of the week. I'm sure at some point I will

519
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: be looking at stuff so I can't not look. If

520
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Speaker 1: you guys are looking for something to bicker about it.

521
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my keys to this season because

522
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Speaker 1: I just modified him on the fly based on what

523
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Speaker 1: Danny was saying a moment ago. I had three keys

524
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Speaker 1: to the season, but I'm going to add a fourth. Okay,

525
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Speaker 1: here we go. Keys to the season. Pauli Pigskin Number one,

526
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Speaker 1: brutally obvious. Your quarterback, Kyler mar you go as your

527
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Speaker 1: quarterback goes. We all know that. Number two, Zavin Collins

528
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Speaker 1: key to the season. Number two for me, just the

529
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Speaker 1: quarterback of the defense. Can he do it? He's got

530
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Speaker 1: it the skill set, he's got the measurables. Does he

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Speaker 1: have the mindset? Yet? Does he have experience? How big

532
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Speaker 1: of an experiment is this going to be? How costly

533
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Speaker 1: could it be if he's not in the right spot

534
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Speaker 1: at the right time or making the right check or

535
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Speaker 1: the right call. We don't know. So that's the second

536
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Speaker 1: biggest key to the season in my opinion. Number three

537
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Speaker 1: and this was a little bit self serving based on

538
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Speaker 1: last week's guest in the Big Red Rage, Devin Canard,

539
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Speaker 1: but it points to what I'm about to say. Can

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Speaker 1: you get to the quarterback? Because the number one most

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Speaker 1: important thing in any NFL game as the quarterback. Number

542
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Speaker 1: two is getting to the quarterback. Can the Cardinals get

543
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Speaker 1: to the quarterback? Who's the guy opposite Marcus Golden this year?

544
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: Hence Dvine Canard, I think he's your leader in the

545
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Speaker 1: clubhouse to be the starter opposite Marcus Golden. Just the

546
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Speaker 1: fact that he's started a half dozen seasons in the

547
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Speaker 1: NFL already before he came to the Arizona Cardinals, between

548
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Speaker 1: the Lions and wherever else he played the Giants and

549
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Speaker 1: so but you know what, you guys bringing up JJ

550
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: Watt reminds me of what Cliff Kingsbury said in the

551
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Speaker 1: press conference on this Monday, and that was man. When

552
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Speaker 1: JJ Watt was in the lineup those first seven games

553
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Speaker 1: of the season, it was a different defense and a

554
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: lot like what James Conner does for the offense, guys

555
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: feeding off the physicality and the mentality. Players really rally

556
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Speaker 1: around enter and fired by a JJ Watt on defense.

557
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: And I saw it him on the sideline that first

558
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: month and a half. And if if he can just

559
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Speaker 1: stay healthy, that's why I'm making it the fourth key

560
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Speaker 1: to the season. If ninety nine is just healthy, it's

561
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: not only what he brings, but it's how he elevates

562
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Speaker 1: everyone else around him on that defense and on that sideline,

563
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: And that is a critical key to this year, no doubt.

564
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Speaker 1: I think that is key is his teammates around him

565
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: being elevated and stepping up. Because last year he had

566
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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, So when the two of them were out

567
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: on the field together, you had to prepare for both

568
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: of them, not saying JJ couldn't hold his own against

569
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Speaker 1: double teams or anything like that. Now that Chandler is

570
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Speaker 1: no longer with the Cardinals, however, the rest of this

571
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: defense at front seven is really going to have to

572
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: step up to try and take some of that pressure

573
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Speaker 1: off JJ to allow him to do what he does best. So,

574
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Speaker 1: like Zach Allen, like whether it's Dennis Gardeck or Devon

575
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Speaker 1: Konar and Marcus gold and all those players stepping up

576
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Speaker 1: to take some of that pressure off JJ wat because

577
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: right now, if you're the offense and you're lining up,

578
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Speaker 1: that's you're circling ninety nine. Whereas last year you also

579
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Speaker 1: had Chandler Jones in the mix. I think that's something

580
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: that can also that that's going to have to come

581
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: into play to allow JJ to have a great year

582
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Speaker 1: again as well. Out here. I mean, right now, it's

583
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Speaker 1: such an unknown the opposite of Marcus Golden. Could it

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00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: be at Dennis Gardeck, who met the media and reiterated

585
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: that he feels much closer to the way he did

586
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: two years ago than last year. He has the twitchiness back,

587
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: and you know his attitude and he still wants to

588
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: play special teams, but he's always pressing to be a starter.

589
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: I love the little anecdote from Cliff Kingsbury that Gardeck

590
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: barely even talks to him because he's still mortified he's

591
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: gonna get cut at anytime. That's pretty funny. Well, and

592
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Dennis said, he goes, I it's still making the fifty

593
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: three man roster is still the most important thing to me.

594
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: And I really like the fact when he talked later

595
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Speaker 1: about rehabbing from the ACL and when he first started,

596
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: and it just rang true to me so much, because

597
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: this is what every player tells you when he's coming

598
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Speaker 1: back from ACL. I guarantee you I'm going to come

599
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: back stronger from this. And and Dennis said that at

600
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: first he was that guy, and then he started realizing

601
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: it would be better for him and probably more truthful

602
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: if he says, not only do I can I not

603
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Speaker 1: guarantee that, I can't even guarantee I'm gonna play again,

604
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: and using that, for lack of a better term, that

605
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: fear to motivate him because for him, that really works

606
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: in his advantage. And you just you gotta love guys

607
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: like that. It's funny you mentioned Canard being the other starter,

608
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know who would be. I mean,

609
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Speaker 1: you're like, it's likely Devon Canard. I think he's really

610
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: your only choice given who you have on the roster

611
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: right now. With all due respect to Dennis Gardeck and

612
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Speaker 1: I love Dennis, but you can't put him out there

613
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Speaker 1: on first and ten. He's undersized and it's just not

614
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: going to work. He's a specialist that if he's on

615
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: the field as an outside linebacker pass rusher, it's got

616
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Speaker 1: to be in an obvious passing situation. So um, but

617
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Speaker 1: I do think that having guys like Guardick, having a

618
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: pro like Canard, you know, I think those can help.

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Speaker 1: And we'll see again how advanced Joseph can dial all

620
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Speaker 1: that up like he had to do in twenty twenty,

621
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Speaker 1: when Chandler Jones was hurt. Could the rookie out of

622
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati and my J. Sanders be a situational guy, just

623
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Speaker 1: a plug and play guy when he can just use

624
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Speaker 1: his athleticism. Devon Kennard raged about the athleticism of my J.

625
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: Sanders on the Big Red Rage. Okay, you know, can

626
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Speaker 1: you just design something simple? Go get the quarterback? It's

627
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Speaker 1: third and seven that kind of thing. I mean, obviously

628
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Speaker 1: we could see something in that. But Darren pointed out

629
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Speaker 1: last week the Cardinals now have another ten million in

630
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Speaker 1: cap space available post June first, after Jordan Phillips. So

631
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Speaker 1: dot dot dot are we going to get that kime

632
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: time sign at Edge Rusher between now in training camp?

633
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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Danny, it's more likely than not. Don't

634
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Speaker 1: you think that they will be bringing a you know,

635
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Speaker 1: a veteran or absolutely? Am I am? I convinced is

636
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Speaker 1: at Edge Rusher? No, I think if it's not Edge Rusher,

637
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, coming off you know, the recent tragedy of

638
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: losing Jeff Glanney, I think cornerback would make sense as well.

639
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: So so let's let's do this. What's our power ranking

640
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: for kime time sign A position wise? I mean, number

641
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: one's got to be cornerback at the age Yes, I do, yes,

642
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: I do agree. I mean, yeah, now, Robert Alfred, is

643
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: that going to be a big time time sign if

644
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: that's indeed where they're going and apparently is on the radar.

645
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: According to Cliff Kingsbury, it is a possibility Robert Alfred

646
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: could be back, So yes, that would check that box.

647
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: But typically when we talk about a time time sign,

648
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: it's an outsider, it's a it's a big name guy

649
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: the latter stages of his career trying to recapture some

650
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: of that production. At age thirty two, thirty three, you

651
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: still floating around out there. But in terms of position,

652
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I think cornerback's got to be number one on the

653
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: power rankings, and I think number two. I think number

654
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: two for me probably would be defensive line at this point,

655
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: not pass rush, but defensive line. Let me ask you this.

656
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: When Cliff Kingsburgers asked about Daryl Williams and why Darryl Williams,

657
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: he said, well, we have James Conner and a lot

658
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: of youth, a lot of unproven guys. Now, guys we

659
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: like and you know Benjamin and Jonathan Ward, but it's unproven.

660
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: We brought in a guy who's played in a lot

661
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: of big games, with the Kansas City Chiefs hosting four

662
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: straight AFC Championship games. Could you use that same thinking

663
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: to put our heads into the people in the war

664
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: room and the decision makers for defensive end, for edge

665
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: rusher and then I'm sorry for outside linebacker edge rusher

666
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: in this case, could you you do have a rotation

667
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: a D lineman to a degree, right, Darren, I mean

668
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: between J. J. Watt and Zach Allen, Chard Lawrence and

669
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Lucky Foe too. But but we can you can say

670
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: that about every position, Paul. You can say, well, they've

671
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: got enough cornerbacks on the roster, but are they the

672
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: cornerbacks you want? And I'm with again, I don't, I

673
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: don't know. They're legitimate cornerbacks, little legitimate D lineman. Once

674
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: you get beyond Marcus Gold to your own point, you

675
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of situational type players beyond beyond Marcus

676
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Gold and Devonkard, Devoncanards and every down player beyond those two,

677
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: do you have another every down edge guy that you

678
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: can trust right now? I guess? Is my point? Well,

679
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: I and again I see what you're saying, and I'm

680
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: guessing that your defensive lineman at this point that you

681
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: have have more experience. But are they somebody you trust?

682
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: There's that's there's a nuance there. Well, they brought in

683
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Kingsley kek right, Yeah, experienced guy. That's what you have

684
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: to think of. As the players you have now on

685
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: that front line, do you trust them enough to stop

686
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: the run to where you could prioritize and addresser or

687
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: is it see for edge rusher? For me, I still

688
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: think you've got things you can play with. I think

689
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: you can throw Isaiah Simmons out there. I think you

690
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: might be able to throw Zavian Cohns out there once

691
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: in a while, depending are those ideas situations? No, and

692
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: what I'd like to perhaps add a pass rusher if

693
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: the right one was there. Sure, But the thing about

694
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: that at this point is, Okay, you're you're gonna play

695
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden and granted, injuries play a part of this,

696
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: but you can only let's say everybody stays healthy. Okay, Well,

697
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep cam Thomas on the roster, and you're

698
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna have Sanders, and you want Canard, and you want Golden,

699
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: you want gardeck. How many outside linebackers are you gonna have?

700
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: You do need one more? You would, yes, you would

701
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: absolutely need at least one more. So maybe I don't know.

702
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: But to your point about you know, the defensive front

703
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: and stopping the run and then getting creative with an

704
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, I've said it before, I'll say it again.

705
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I don't buy the Cardinals any

706
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: of the coaches and they say, oh, we're keeping him

707
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: an inside linebacker. Oh, I don't think so. I think

708
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna see him at safety. I think you're gonna

709
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: see him play in center field. I think you will

710
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: see him on the edge, Danny like like you brought up.

711
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Simmons will be an X factor and

712
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: they'll move them all around. It's what they like about him,

713
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: the high bred. So I guess it doesn't make the Cardinals.

714
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't make Steve Kime's job easier knowing that your focus

715
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: is defense because none of us even there's nothing left

716
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: on offense, right, does that make your job easier knowing

717
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: you're focused on one side of the ball. Yes, I

718
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: believe so, and I would I would agree with that,

719
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: And I'm racking my brain thinking who else? What else

720
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: are you going to bring on on the offensive side.

721
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: We still don't know what the deal is with Max Williams,

722
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: but you do have a lot of tight ends in camp.

723
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: There's one guy number eighty four who now really tread

724
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: lightly on this. Okay, this is Polly Pencil next saying

725
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: is an early candidate for the Polly Pigskin breakout player

726
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: of Camp. Now, this is something I've been doing for

727
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: a good ten years, Danny, I take some guy way

728
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: off the radar and I just project going into training

729
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: camp who I think is going to make a name

730
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: for himself by the end Augustum. Not sure what my

731
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: batting average is. We don't really need to go there,

732
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: but I will say that this eighty four David Wells

733
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: a tight end out of San Diego State. I don't know.

734
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: I've kind of liked what I've seen so far. Now

735
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: he might get blowed up at the point of attack

736
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: once they get into pads. I have no idea, but

737
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: he's got the size, he has the hands, he seems

738
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: to move well, and I'm just saying that I think

739
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: he'll maybe stick through preseason at least and get a look.

740
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: We'll be sure to write this down date time player. Yeah,

741
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: the way too early roster projections here before mandatory minigame

742
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: for me. David Walls was on the practice squad last year,

743
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: and I think he was on the active roster for

744
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: a while. Okay, there you go. Obviously they had some

745
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: injuries at that position too, so we'll we'll see what happens.

746
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: You know, until we get some clarity on Max Williams,

747
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: that's a really tough position to kind of get our

748
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: heads around, to be honest, I will say this that

749
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: Mike Bercovici, a recently elevated offensive assistant under Cliff Kingsbury,

750
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: the former A Issue quarterback, was on ninety eight seven

751
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: FM Arizona Sports last week with Wolf and Luke, and

752
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, he was dodging a lot of the questions,

753
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: but he did say at one point that running the

754
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: ball is the key to winning quote end quote. And

755
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: so I'm still on board, at least as of right now,

756
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: until we get into Week one against Kansas City, thinking

757
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: that minus d hop it will be more balanced than

758
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: ever run versus past. That's just so my expectation. And

759
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: they're not going to show anything in preseason once again

760
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: to give you an indication. That's just my guess based

761
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: on what we're hearing and reading between the lines. Running

762
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: the football because hops out or just in general, that's

763
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: the key to winning both, especially when you have those

764
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: first six games that I think it's going to be

765
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: an emphasis like never before. That's just that's just my thought.

766
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I think when they look at last season, they say

767
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: what was clicking? Because how many times if we all

768
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: asked that question, change was marking when you were at

769
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: ten and two versus how they finished, And you can

770
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: point to the run game as a big reason why. Again,

771
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: I just think we need to see, you know, mini camp,

772
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: more so training camp of how are they going to

773
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: use their running backs without Chase Edmonds That that him

774
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: and James Connor had similar but different skill sets and

775
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: they balanced each other really well. And I think that's

776
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: a big question of now that James Connor is your

777
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: number one running back, how are you going to utilize

778
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: everyone else in that room? How are you going to

779
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: balance the reps? How are you going to attack the

780
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: running game differently than last year? So, while I'm not

781
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: necessarily disagreeing with you, I don't think it's as black

782
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: and white as it worked really well last year because

783
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: the room is different, the skill set is different. Now.

784
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: When they got off to that start, they were all healthy,

785
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: including Hop, and I think one of the reasons the

786
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: running game worked a little bit better was because you

787
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: did have Hop out there. Yes, there's calls and effect.

788
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I would agree with I just I think they're going

789
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: to obviously need to be able to run the football. Yes,

790
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to say this again. I just

791
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a tough time winning if

792
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: you're trying to run the football. Like if you tell

793
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: me that you're gonna go in against Kansas City in

794
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: that first game and your thought is we can run

795
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: and play defense and win the game, I don't think

796
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: that's the right way to look at it. You're not

797
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: winning that game fourteen thirteen. Is that what you're saying.

798
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. And I thought

799
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: you don't like early predictions. I'm just saying, I just

800
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: I feel like obviously, running the football remains a part

801
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: of football. I'm not trying to downplay it, but it, God,

802
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: it just gives off the stench of nineteen seventy nine,

803
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: and I just don't like it. I just don't like it.

804
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: All right, would you like a hot take? Then? How

805
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: about this? Dreka, stop it, I'm talking football over here,

806
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: all right. Now, I'm getting ready. I'm warmed up, so

807
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: now I'm ready for the hot take. All right, but

808
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: your oven mits on. Here we go. This is a

809
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: hot take. If I said position battles going into camp,

810
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: what positions? Would you site? This isn't I want some

811
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: participation here? True battles, true battles. Where are the true

812
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: position battles? Okay, here we go here, here's your power rankings.

813
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: Position battles. There could be one, two, three, four, five,

814
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't see that many. But you tell me where

815
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: are the legitimate position battles on this roster well as

816
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: it stands right now? M I go ahead, Danny, I'm sorry.

817
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Are we going to assume Max Williams is healthy and

818
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: like him and try McBride would be about like I'm

819
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: gonna say right now that I'm talking about like a

820
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: starting spot. I'm expecting this is my complete guess. I'm

821
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: expecting Max Williams probably on pup to begin training camp

822
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: now when he would come off, I don't know, But

823
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna have a But I

824
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, for me, if you're talking about

825
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: legit battles, ye right guard, yep, I mean it's got

826
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: to be Will Hernandez against Justin Murray at the very

827
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: least right And I don't know if there's any other

828
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: ones legit Edge Rusher, I know you got Devon Kanar

829
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: Penciltan there, but Edge Rusher I think is a battle

830
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: with who, though does some degree with who? I mean,

831
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: I mean Gardak and you know one of them. I mean,

832
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: unless I know I'm not even commencing to myself. I

833
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: think Sanders. Sanders is raw enough that you've got to

834
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: put him in a position where he's got to be.

835
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: You go get the quarterback every time he's on the field,

836
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: at least at first, and I think gardis too undersize.

837
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Could Cameron Thomas do enough that, Oh that makes more

838
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: sense than Canard at this point, maybe, but I don't know.

839
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: That feels very much like Zavin Collins and Jordan Hicks.

840
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: You know what, a week ago, I would have said

841
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: backup running back, because you always need at least two

842
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: running backs. But that's now Darryl Williams right, it's gotta

843
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: be his job to lose versus Nino Benjamin and Jonathan

844
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Warred to Keante Ingram got so I mean that leads

845
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: and backup running back, I don't even think about. If

846
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: we're starting to talk about battles at backups, we could

847
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: find some of those. But to me, when you're talking

848
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: about battles, I'm thinking about starters, and I guess now

849
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm expanding because there's so few. I'm expanding from regulars,

850
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: from starters to regulars. So a backup running back is

851
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of rests. Here's the other

852
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: one is if you go Nickel D, you gotta have

853
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: that third corner. Well now, because of the tragic passing

854
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: to Jeff Gladney, who is that third corner behind Byron

855
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: Murphy Junior and Marco Wilson. That's well, there's a reason

856
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: why that's number one in our power rankings for a signing. Okay,

857
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: so I think the only only other position you could

858
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: think of is once you start getting into week seven

859
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: and d Hop is back and your wide receivers depending

860
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: on But by that point you you'll have a good

861
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: idea of how Hollywood Brown and aj Green and Antoine

862
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: Wesley are all playing outside. But that's the only position,

863
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: and that's not even through halfway. And again that has

864
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: to do with playing time, because I think if you're

865
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: talking about when Hop is healthy, your top three receivers

866
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: are set pretty much in concrete with Hollywood and Hop

867
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: and more so. And the reason I bring this up

868
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: and this is the part at which you might want

869
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: to step away from the open flame. Is that I'm

870
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna throw the following position battle into the mix. Punter.

871
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Have you seen this Nolan Cooney, Dude, I've seen him.

872
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: A big guy, sixty three, two hundred something Syracuse. If

873
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: you read up, if you read up, if you read

874
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: up on his don't even don't don't even put Grillo

875
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: in the same category as a legitimate NFL player. And

876
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: maybe you're starting punter this year. Is where I'm going

877
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: with a standing Okay, with a snarky response over there.

878
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: This kid actually was this close to winning the job

879
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: in New Orleans last years. My understanding didn't get it.

880
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: A lot of guys on that roster expected him to

881
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: beat out the incumbent. He didn't. He comes in big leg.

882
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. He's also a very experienced holder.

883
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: He held all the way through his years at Syracuse,

884
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: and he can kick off if needed. He's got a

885
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: big leg. He's definitely can be an emergency kicker if

886
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: he could kick off. But he's an excellent holder. And

887
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: if they're ever thinking about getting Matt Prad or a

888
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: new punter, well it starts with the holder. And we

889
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: know Andy Lee missed two games last year, right, and

890
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: that was a borderline catastrophe because Matt Prader did not

891
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: have confidence in the backup holders. So there needs to

892
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: be that dynamic right there. So I'm just throwing that

893
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: out there just because Andy Lee, as much as we

894
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: all love Andy Lee, is turning forty before training camp.

895
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. I wish I could turn forty tramp.

896
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if Nolan Cooney, second year dude out

897
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: of Syracuse, could actually be a legitimate threat to a

898
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: long time former Pro Bowl punter in this league. I

899
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: don't think that was an insanely hot take. Pause wasn't

900
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: It was a long time, but it was. I will

901
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 1: say this, Yes you think I don't know. I feel

902
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: like we always talk about Andy Lee getting beat out.

903
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: By the end of it. He always ends up with

904
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: a job. I've died on this hill before. I mean,

905
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: just just just go ahead and call up our guy, Kyle.

906
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: I disagree, o'de guard and I've gotten a facial. I'm

907
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: the whole punter front before. I don't know. I haven't

908
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: seen him kick, to be honest yet, I won't I

909
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: learn my lesson. I didn't realize that he put up

910
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: such a battle in New Orleans, which that kind of

911
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: changes my perspective a little bit. I do think they

912
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind getting younger there, but I also think, like

913
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: I think at one point there was a lot to

914
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: talk about Ryan Winslow, and they were really excited about him.

915
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: It's true, yeah, And I don't know if that had

916
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: to come down to the holding or if again comes

917
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: down to the comfort level. See, that's where these coaches struggle,

918
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: especially a positions like d like, Hey, we're very comfortable

919
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: with we know, we know what we're getting with Andy Lee.

920
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: Ask Green Bay how it feels to suffer a special

921
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: team's gaff against the forty nine ers in a game

922
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: that costs you the NFC championship at home. We're the

923
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: only touchdown scored by the forty nine ers was on

924
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: the block punt. I'm not saying who's the punter's fault.

925
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that a special team's gaff. To Darren's point,

926
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: the prospect thereof can keep coaches up all night, and

927
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: so yes, they're gonna err on the side of the

928
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: known versus the unknown. It's very hard to break your

929
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: way into the League via one of those positions. I'm

930
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: just saying that, if it's inevitable and one of these

931
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: training camps, forty year old punter is gonna come in,

932
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: he's gonna have lost a little something off the fastball.

933
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: If that happens to be this August, I'm just saying,

934
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: there seems to be a legitimate guy waiting in the wings.

935
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: Perhaps that could press him. I just say this, he's

936
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna get a legitimate look. He will definitely get an opportunity.

937
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: I think this August, and we'll see, we'll see how it. Pharazee.

938
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: Thing is, you're gonna to beat out Andy Lee decisively,

939
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: aren't you. You're gonna really have if you're just as good.

940
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how much cost savings there would be

941
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: versus Andy Lees. OU see to me, it wouldn't be

942
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: about cost savings as much as getting younger and knowing

943
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: you could have a guy in place for a while

944
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: for the next deck a potentially, I don't see Andy

945
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: Lee kicking another five years. Right then again, we're I know, yeah,

946
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: you don't know, I mean not much. I see, I'll

947
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: walk right into that. Yeah, what am I supposed to do?

948
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: Just say nothing? I mean, I gotta give you props.

949
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: I would have done the same for me. It was

950
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. But thank you. I mean Andy Lee

951
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: is on the Tom Cruise program. We we, I mean,

952
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: we can't say that, my goodness, which brings us full

953
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: circle here on Cardinals Underground. Um, by the way, that

954
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: wasn't the only look. See, you're taller than Tom Cruise, Paul.

955
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: You know what I will. I'll go, I'll block out

956
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise and pull a rebound. I'll go over the

957
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: back of Tom Cruise for a rebound and they won't

958
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: even blow the whistle for the foul either. I'll tell

959
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: you that right now. I'm just checking because I'm like,

960
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: there there's a chance for you right there. That's a

961
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: I want to open the door for you. You You want

962
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: to hear my quick Tom Cruise story. Yes, I was

963
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: at this local driving school, believe it or not. Got

964
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: it is a Father's day gift. And when you get

965
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: to drive around these race cars and they teach you

966
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: how to drive and the whole thing, okay, And on

967
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: the on the on the wall is all these pictures

968
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: of celebrities who have been with all the race car instructors.

969
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: And because Tom Cruise had done Days of Thunder, he

970
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: had been there, and he's in there in the racing

971
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: suits and there's a picture You're in Tom Cruise for

972
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: some reason as this ridiculous METS hat on. He's got

973
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: like a New York METS cap on and it's perched

974
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: right on top of his head, just like somebody placed

975
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: it there, and it's floating on air, like what's the

976
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: deal with the METS cap And the guy smacks me, goes,

977
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: you know why, because Tom Cruise was shorter than the

978
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: driver and he wanted to make up the difference in

979
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: the photo nice so he put on the METS cap

980
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: At the very end. I'm like, come on, come on

981
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: to not that note to self and I want to

982
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: try that tactic once in a while when I'm especially

983
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: when I'm interviewing Lineman. Did you guys see the and

984
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: it's you can see it on YouTube when Tom Cruise

985
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: takes uh the late night comedian James Gordon to thank you, Olmes.

986
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: He takes him up on the plane. First of all,

987
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the most hilarious ten minutes you'll

988
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: ever see, so go look at it on YouTube. But

989
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: the fact that I didn't realize Tom Cruise flew his

990
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: own planes, and like that was one of the things

991
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: that yeah, well, and that was one of the things

992
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: that made top Gun kind of cool for me because

993
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that he flew some of those

994
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: scenes by himself. And that dude's just a little crazy

995
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: some of the stunts that he's done in his life

996
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: and now flying those planes with the g's and he

997
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: seems to really enjoy And maybe that's why he's shorter,

998
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: because he just got compressed, right, you know, his spine

999
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: got It's so like when you get off the International

1000
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: Space Station. That's what the astronauts say, you grow like

1001
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: two inches in space because you don't have gravity weighing

1002
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: down your spine and compressing you like an accordion. That's

1003
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: a thing. It's a thing out in space. Soon this

1004
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: was twenty seventeen, I think Cardinals and Houston, Texans, and

1005
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: we had the pleasure of going along to the Johnson

1006
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: Space Center and NASA Control where the moon landing in

1007
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: the late sixties took place, the whole deal. We took

1008
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: a tour. Michael Bidwell got an invite. We're going to

1009
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: clarify right now, the moon landing didn't happen there, because

1010
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't want conspiracy theoris they were watching the moon landing.

1011
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: The moon landing actually happened on the Moon. There was

1012
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: no green screen in there where they perpetrated. I do

1013
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: not want to be putting that out there anyway. My

1014
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: point was that one of the tours is being led

1015
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: by a former astronaut who had spent six months in

1016
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: the space station, and according to him, he said that

1017
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: he permanently lost two to three percent of his bone

1018
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: density just by spending yeah, six months on the International

1019
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: Space Station. I'm gonna skip the six months on the

1020
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: space station, oh man, because I do want to still

1021
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: grab some rebounds. Yeah. How many leagues are in by

1022
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: the way here, this was always my theory about the

1023
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: older basketball leagues, and I talked to my friend Paul

1024
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: Coro about this. Here we go. You don't want to

1025
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: play in leagues of the older guys because those are

1026
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: all the guys that were like super studs once upon

1027
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: a time. They're the ones that keep playing, the ones

1028
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: that were like me and like you just enjoy playing.

1029
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, you realize after a while, Cash shouldn't be

1030
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: in the league. The guys that keep playing in leagues

1031
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: they're they're way too good and I don't need that.

1032
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: You should join our bowling league. I haven't been invited.

1033
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: You had gone bowling with us. Don't even try and

1034
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: put it out there like, oh, I was not invited.

1035
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: I've been I've been bowling. I've been invited bowling. I

1036
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: was not invited to the bowling. We technically have one

1037
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: person more than we shut on our team. We didn't

1038
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of room, Darren. And when you knew

1039
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: we complaining, you brought it up. No, wait a minute,

1040
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: I play basketball. Either either you don't play basketball, so

1041
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: I have no saying. How can this be a Bickerson's topic.

1042
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: Either you've been bowling with the crew or you haven't.

1043
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: I have. I just have not been invited to play

1044
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: for bc BC. I see bird c any bowling club?

1045
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: Did you not know that was our name? For that listening?

1046
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: I play in a bowlingling now with other co workers

1047
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: of mine, And so you don't even need a team

1048
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: name technically our technically our team name would have been

1049
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: lane five because that was the first lane they put

1050
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: us in a week one. But on the paper we

1051
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: wrote BCBC and we are getting shirts made. Yes, does

1052
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: it say like BC square do you have that up logo? No? Okay,

1053
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: all right, you don't necessity to talk about the bowling, Danny.

1054
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: I notice, really you have this air of confidence with

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Speaker 1: the bowling. Are you are you fair? Are you the

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Speaker 1: person to beat on the bowling lanes? Are you pretty good?

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Speaker 1: You know? To be honest, Now I am not horrible.

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Speaker 1: I've really improved since we started bowling in January, because

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Speaker 1: it had been a long time since then. I actually

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Speaker 1: humble brag. In week one of the league, I was

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Speaker 1: the overall best female bowler. There you go. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: not the best on our team. That would have to

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Speaker 1: go to Kyle Droni, our videographer editor. He is, he's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. And there's any time you do anything in life, Paul,

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Speaker 1: you always want to describe yourself as not horrible. Look

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Speaker 1: what you need to do is take a page, almost

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Speaker 1: literally out of DJ Humphreys what he told the media

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Speaker 1: that he's going to write it a little how to

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Speaker 1: book for J. J. Watt and zach Ertz. So maybe

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Speaker 1: you should write a how to BCBC Bowling manual. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: maybe I should. I don't think anyone on the team

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Speaker 1: would read it because Humphrey is going to write about

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Speaker 1: child rearing. By the way, if for anybody's wondering, not

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Speaker 1: not necessarily football playing, but child wearing. I also want

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Speaker 1: to SMP's handy around the house if he fixes stuff

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Speaker 1: and getting with that question either brutal. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: start stepping on people in these press conferences. He's been

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Speaker 1: spending his offseason changing white bulbs and new toilet paper rolls.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens you get off of zoom. Kevin

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Speaker 1: was complaining about the same thing, about getting cut off.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get back into this thing. I got stout zoom.

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Speaker 1: The hand's not up. You got to get your stuff

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Speaker 1: in there. It's this is where Darren's basketball serves him well.

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Speaker 1: He's used to throw in the elbows and kind of

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Speaker 1: giving a car hip check. You know. He's like, O,

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Speaker 1: can hear somebody talking while you're talking? Just keep talking

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Speaker 1: and get bowder. They'll shut up unless it's us. Then

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Speaker 1: we will not stop for you, Darren. That seems like

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Speaker 1: a good spot to you know what. There at least

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Speaker 1: there's a takeaway. There's something for me too. That's my

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Speaker 1: homework assignment for next week. On Cardinal's Underground brought to

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