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Speaker 3: Looked like he's really good at that's all.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you guys right now, Jean Moran is coming

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Speaker 3: for all the work this year, all of it. Oh geez,

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Speaker 3: are back. We are in Summer League in Vegas, breaking news, the.

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Speaker 4: Breaking.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm thinking, you being the breaking new.

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Speaker 3: We're fucking breaking news in the sun here.

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Speaker 2: In here.

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Speaker 4: Talk to me, Man, appreciate you coming in.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me on. Obviously, Mike, I've

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Speaker 1: to get some shout outs. Dan Frank that's someone that

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Speaker 2: A player near the end of your career.

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Speaker 1: Now, Donnie, you know you you got to go through ud.

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Speaker 1: I don't know you as well, but I've been a

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Speaker 2: The players behind the scenes as well. So a lot

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Speaker 2: If this is last week, I would have had to

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Speaker 1: Guys, respect but but we would have rain checked it.

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Speaker 3: But I want to know. I want to know the

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Speaker 3: this point, Like we're what did you did? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, growing up, I want to be where you were,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be in the NBA, but obviously that's

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Speaker 4: Because in your business you can't be wrong?

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Speaker 3: Traded, be traded. Let me tell you I got great

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Speaker 2: What did you see?

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Speaker 3: Well? How did that play out?

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Speaker 5: Because you got I'm divorced. You got worse out than

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Speaker 5: It's all the cops. I know, a divorced because they

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Speaker 1: Was like, there's no dinner that goes by. If I'm

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Speaker 1: I think they feel like something's wrong with me, you know,

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Speaker 5: There's there's it's just it's understood that I got to

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know anything about that

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Speaker 6: You know, Well, it's keep the fight bright.

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Speaker 2: I've been divorced three times over, you know.

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Speaker 3: So what's the most your your screen hours have been?

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Speaker 2: On probably that was the highest twenty one. But but

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Speaker 2: I want to see your screen time.

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Speaker 4: Mike, Mine's not twenty one hours.

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Speaker 3: So I'm on a phone a ton, there's no question.

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Speaker 5: But I also sleep. He's on the phone. He's getting

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Speaker 3: I sleep six hours.

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Speaker 6: Listen, when you drink as much beer as him, six

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Speaker 2: I don't like him, No, he's he's really grilling, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's I mean, it's part of the it's

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Speaker 1: If I couldn't do it, or if I felt like

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Speaker 2: Right, But you know this is where you like you

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Speaker 5: You ain't just the one.

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Speaker 2: Hour you're not bush.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you look like.

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Speaker 2: The one hour that you're you're spending off the phone.

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Speaker 1: You know you got you got to spend it somehow, right,

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Speaker 1: I like you somehow you spend it a mile.

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Speaker 3: So give me the story that you broke, the biggest

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Speaker 3: there's something that hooked you into this, right. I know

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Speaker 1: And like, to me, it's like, that was the night

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Speaker 2: Just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Seven hundred followers, you broke that story. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: The door kind of cracked a little bit open, right,

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Do you do you sit in complacency?

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Speaker 1: Do you sit in that or like I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: Send this possibilities.

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Speaker 1: Next morning, I mean, I was driving to Milwaukee to

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Speaker 1: Like I was, I was really onto the next and

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Speaker 6: That's when a lot of motherfuckers realized they ain't like

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Speaker 5: A lot of people found out.

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Speaker 2: The truth being door that speaking of divorce.

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Speaker 6: But listen, it's okay because like I understand we were

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Speaker 6: Like you gotta be a little.

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Speaker 5: Fucking sess thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you app if.

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Speaker 5: You want to be great.

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Speaker 4: What the you do?

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Speaker 6: You gotta be a little fucking sess So I'll support

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Speaker 6: your obsession, you know what I'm saying. So we joking

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Speaker 6: about it, but you gotta obsessed everything what you're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's a competitive field that you So I understand that.

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Speaker 1: Just like like you d you you went from undrafted

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Speaker 3: For twenty years to exactly rebinding like we keep going.

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Speaker 1: Back up three times chap six man, Yes, coming off

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Speaker 2: Then you're mentor so like you're competitive.

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Speaker 1: Right, like if you just wanted to be a guy

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Speaker 1: Mike was the guy.

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Speaker 3: That he was. He's a sick fuck though you know

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Speaker 3: he had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the man.

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Speaker 5: He was a man, sick fuck. We went out there

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Speaker 3: And no better.

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Speaker 1: We took that shoeing through it. He took that shoeing

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Speaker 2: That was crazy, insane.

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Speaker 3: And then put in a casket. As y'all can hear.

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Speaker 1: Think you have to say the Sixers are a big

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Speaker 1: championship pedigree. So I think they had a they had

450
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Speaker 1: a big off season as well. And honestly, the Spurs

451
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 1: like getting CP three, getting getting HB. Yeah, I like

452
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,000
Speaker 1: that in that in that rotation, like it's crazy and

453
00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,080
Speaker 1: you guys have been a part of it. But like

454
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,440
Speaker 1: every year that goes on, the more I realize when

455
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 1: one or two guys get get plugged into a lineup

456
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,240
Speaker 1: or if they get hurt during the season.

457
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Speaker 2: How much that affects the team.

458
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I think even more on the San Antonio one

459
00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,400
Speaker 3: is not even affecting the season as much. It's it's

460
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,919
Speaker 3: affecting it's it's really affecting the growth and where Victor

461
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 3: and them guys go. Because what you don't want is

462
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,160
Speaker 3: Victor get used to fu get his ass kick right

463
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 3: and being twenty win seasons every year. He needs to

464
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Speaker 3: see the maturity levels of what it actually is is

465
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,200
Speaker 3: like winning and stuff, because he's gonna be Obviously, everyone

466
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,440
Speaker 3: at the table realizes he's gonna be special. What you

467
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,920
Speaker 3: don't want him to do is fall into that trap

468
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 3: because it doesn't mean just because you're specially doesn't mean

469
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna win.

470
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Speaker 4: So I like I like that San Antonio one.

471
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Speaker 1: Okay, see you know Hardenstein getting Harnstein, getting Caruso, those

472
00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 1: are those are Cruis doesn't even.

473
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Speaker 2: Packed like their future.

474
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Speaker 1: They have all their drop They got a dozen first

475
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 1: round picture trade, they got a dozen swaps, they got

476
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 1: everything to get any there's ever a star player that

477
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 1: they want. If they want to go get lowry marketing

478
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,919
Speaker 1: right now, they can go get lowry marketing. But they

479
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,440
Speaker 1: like this direction of this team. And that's another guy

480
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Speaker 1: who will you know, will see what happens.

481
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 3: Biggest loser though.

482
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Speaker 6: Philip one Moto Philadelphia also got Caleb Martin is hurting

483
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Speaker 6: me still. I'm still in my feelings about that. Hold

484
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Speaker 6: on second, but they also got because we're.

485
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Speaker 5: Talking about a guy who could easily have been but.

486
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Speaker 4: I heard sixty five on the table and took thirty two.

487
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Speaker 5: I would I wouldn't know. I don't know nothing about that.

488
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 5: I don't be in those rooms. I don't be in

489
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Speaker 5: those rooms.

490
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Speaker 6: But I mean, it hurt that we lost them, and

491
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 6: if that's what happened, then it sucks that we lost them.

492
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Speaker 6: And he took less money to go back to Philly

493
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Speaker 6: with Texas and all that ship when he could have

494
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Speaker 6: got sixty five. But you talk about a guy who

495
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Speaker 6: with Kelly, with Obre, now you got multiple guys that

496
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Speaker 6: you can put on Tatum and Brown in a seven

497
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Speaker 6: game series, in a playoff series. And it's also a

498
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 6: guy who you can't account for one game or two

499
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 6: games when he might give you seventeen to twenty points

500
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 6: like on just random you know, plays and different things

501
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 6: like that.

502
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Speaker 5: Like he did for us.

503
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Speaker 6: So I loved Paul George pick up because Paul George

504
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 6: shoot the clip about fifty two percent on catcher shoot threes.

505
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 6: That's what Philid Deaf your struggle with. But I also

506
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 6: love Caleb Martin. That's personal for me.

507
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this one because it's out of curiosity.

508
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 3: So we know why Paul George end up leaving the

509
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 3: Clippers because they weren't given the last year, right, But ultimately,

510
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 3: why was it that that Clay left Golden State.

511
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Speaker 1: I think there's more layers to that one. I think

512
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: that one has a lot to do with principal. I

513
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 1: think that one has a lot to do with how

514
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Speaker 1: he felt with the organization over the last couple of years.

515
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Speaker 2: You know, when you're someone that brought.

516
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Speaker 1: Four championships, there big part of that three for sure,

517
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Speaker 1: Like they don't win those three, I mean they don't

518
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Speaker 1: win any of those without Clay, but those three and

519
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: then getting the fourth, you know, and then you see

520
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: Wiggins get four years extension, Jordan Poole getting a four

521
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: year extension, you see Jaymond greeting it getting a four

522
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: year extension, and then it's your turn and the Warriors

523
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 1: look at the marketplace and they offer him two years

524
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: forty eight and that's what I was told. The offer

525
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Speaker 1: was last year from the Warriors, and he felt like

526
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Speaker 1: he deserved more years, more money. And I think you

527
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Speaker 1: saw how his season developed, and I think there were

528
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Speaker 1: a lot of feelings on both sides, but specifically for

529
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Speaker 1: Clay feeling slighted with the offer, feeling slighted with his

530
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: role at different points, feeling like he wasn't given the

531
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Speaker 1: stature that came with being Klay Thompson in that organization.

532
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Speaker 1: And I think coming off the bench, you know for

533
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Speaker 1: a rookie and Brandon Pezenski and having your minutes fluctuating,

534
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Speaker 1: I think that all played a part. And by the

535
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Speaker 1: end of the season, I was told he was out,

536
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Speaker 1: and I report a few days from free agency he's

537
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Speaker 1: not coming back. The decision was already made. This is

538
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Speaker 1: gonna be about where he's gonna end up, and he

539
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: gets it, goes to Dallas and he will be the

540
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Speaker 1: guaranteed starter there and he's gonna be guaranteed, you know whatever.

541
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Speaker 1: It's twenty eight to thirty plus minutes a night, and

542
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Speaker 1: I think that was very important for Clay. Playing the

543
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Speaker 1: minutes that he wants to play, and I'm told a

544
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Speaker 1: lot of this was about principal.

545
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Speaker 2: I'm feeling slighted.

546
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Speaker 3: I love Dallas, I love what they did this year.

547
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: Obviously they shocked a lot of people, but having those

548
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Speaker 3: two too, to the most dynamic guards in the NBA

549
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: is helpful. It's gonna be interesting, though, Clay, that Clay

550
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Speaker 3: piece is gonna be interesting there, and I do think

551
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Speaker 3: it's Obviously it's a huge upgrade for him, but he's

552
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: used to playing a certain style of Golden State. It's

553
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 3: pitch chases all the way around, and now you're going

554
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Speaker 3: to a place where it's ball dominant guards, ball dominant guards.

555
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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be that's gonna I'm telling you, that's

556
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Speaker 3: not gonna be different, going.

557
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Speaker 4: To be the easiest transition that people are like.

558
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Speaker 3: But you know this, when you make when we put

559
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: that big three together, we started, we start off our.

560
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Speaker 4: Freaking career dark Knight with some booshes.

561
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Speaker 5: It's dark Knights when you're trying to figure it out.

562
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: So like darkness, you know what I mean. Like, you

563
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Speaker 3: take Clay in that situation, and I'm glad he got

564
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Speaker 3: what he wanted in the three years and the money,

565
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Speaker 3: But it's going to be extremely different, and I don't

566
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Speaker 3: care starting coming off the bench, I don't care what

567
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Speaker 3: is to me. It's style of playing what you're accustomed to, right,

568
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: So that's gonna it's gonna be interesting. I'm I'm interesting.

569
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Speaker 3: I'm very very intrigued to see how that plays out.

570
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Speaker 5: We see.

571
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Speaker 2: I like.

572
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 5: I like the fact that they got Jason Kidd coaching.

573
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: That's what I think.

574
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: That's what I think I do too.

575
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 5: Talking about the champion, we're talking about the form up.

576
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: The situation is you're super successful doing it one way

577
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: right now Clay Clay is not just to stop stand

578
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: in the corner. Now he's a lead at it. Don't

579
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: get it wrong.

580
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: What do you guys thinking about what the Warriors did though?

581
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: Getting Buddy, getting Kyle Anderson. I love Anthony, I love.

582
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 6: Buddy, but Buddy from damn in Miami. The Bahamas is

583
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 6: just an distinction in Miami. So I love Buddy, you

584
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 6: just get him some cud.

585
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 3: I don't like. That's the thing. I don't think Golden

586
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: Steak can be done. I think if you're really, if

587
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: you're serious about winning, to have to make a big move.

588
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: And they're trying to get Lorymark.

589
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: I mean that West. I think they're going.

590
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Speaker 5: The problem is the West is hellified and it's only

591
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 5: getting better.

592
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: Like is that a look at he comes to my job.

593
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: You can't stop working.

594
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: No.

595
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Speaker 3: I I'm with you, though, but but to me, to me,

596
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Speaker 3: if you're gonna be like and it's this is not

597
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: this is not anything anyone else has to said, Like

598
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's got so many years left right at this level,

599
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: if you're gonna try to do it one more time,

600
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: you got to go all in like you just have to.

601
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interesting. I don't think they're done.

602
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 3: I don't think they're done.

603
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 5: They got a question, Yeah, Orlando KCP.

604
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: Team right, Mike, Mike represents Polo Bank.

605
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 6: I know what, I know what to hell he gonna say.

606
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 6: But I like that pick up as well, just because

607
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 6: that's a young team. They can fucking defend their asses off,

608
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I think that's a

609
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 6: good pickup for them to bringing in a guy that's

610
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 6: won a championship, hold everybody accountable, championship expectations, all that

611
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 6: different ship like that.

612
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Speaker 5: How you think that helped them?

613
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Speaker 1: They did exactly. I think very similar. You think about

614
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: OKC and Orlando, they are similar trajectories.

615
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: But you think about what both of them did.

616
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Speaker 1: They did nothing to disrupt what they have, right Like,

617
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: they didn't trade away one of their cornerstone players. They

618
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: didn't trade away a boatload of bassets.

619
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Speaker 3: They basically brought everyone back.

620
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Speaker 2: They brought everyone back.

621
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Speaker 1: And they brought in a really good veteran two way

622
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: player makes threes. He's at I mean Lakers Impact Championship,

623
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Speaker 1: Denver Impact Championship and now going to Orlando, which kind

624
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: of like, okay, see, you get two players.

625
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: That don't disrupt what you what you've got going on.

626
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: There's no guarantee Isaiah. You know, Isaiah Hartenstein signs for.

627
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: Thirty million year, there's no guarantee he starts next to

628
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Speaker 1: chet Hoolgmen, you want chet Holgren to really embrace that

629
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: five spot, but you pay him a little bit more

630
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Speaker 1: and make him comfortable with coming off the bench potentially

631
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Speaker 1: and being a really good backup for you and playing

632
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Speaker 1: with chet Holger down the stretch. And Orlando casep just

633
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: slides right in as the starting shooting guard.

634
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Speaker 2: And I think they have they have the pieces.

635
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: Orlando, Orlando does and I've dealt with them. I've dealt

636
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Speaker 3: with him a ton, and I love dealing with them.

637
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: But like we still got to address in my opinion, Orlando,

638
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: we got to be able to make shots, right, Like

639
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: you just have to make shots. You can't be second

640
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: last or last in the league in three point shooting work.

641
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: But but but I'm saying no, no, I get it.

642
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 3: Casep to me was awesome. We were super excited when

643
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: it happened. But the biggest thing now is Okay, win win.

644
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: And this is always a question as the front office guy,

645
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: when is it time to make the next step? When

646
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: is it time to throw the deck all in right?

647
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: Because you know what I mean, you got you got

648
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Franz resigned. Now you're gonna have to do pollow like

649
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 3: like it's it's it's there for you now. So it's

650
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see what they do. But they

651
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 3: got it. They got to at some point. And I

652
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: don't know, there's never a good answer for it. But

653
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: when are you going all in for it? That's because

654
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: you have to make shots, you.

655
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Speaker 5: Say, you say one more wi You're gonna have to

656
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: get your French past. Mike.

657
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: I got to ask, you know, you you apollow there,

658
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: he's you know, the face of that franchise. Yes, what

659
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: what what does he feel about their asine? What do

660
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: you feel about KCP?

661
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: How involved?

662
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: Is he super excited about it? You know, he's he's

663
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: he listened, he still learned. His biggest thing is he

664
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: wants to get better. So he he was like, does

665
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: he want the team to get back? Absolutely, but his

666
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: focus on getting better because he knows if he's better,

667
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: the team's better. So but obviously KCP I was in

668
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: Seattle when it happened, super excited about it, you know,

669
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: but again he wants he's just he's sick, like the

670
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: great ones are sick. He wants to he wants to win.

671
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Speaker 3: I mean, the trajectory worry has been in. They came

672
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: in obviously that the number one picks. They didn't have

673
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 3: great season, right, they upgrade it. Now they make the playoffs,

674
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: they go seven against Cleveland. But the reality, the situation

675
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: that Cleveland Orlando game Orlando series, you're you're really being serious.

676
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 3: But I was a fucking rock fight. So if you're

677
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: gonna try to take on the Boston's, the Phillies, the Miamis,

678
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to get better. You're gonna have to

679
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: get you gotta get better wings scoring At times, you're

680
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: gonna be able to shoot better, and we know that,

681
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: but it takes time. But they're built to be able

682
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: to make advantage almost like okay, see what you said.

683
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: They have a lot of their picks. Oh yes, so

684
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: they're they're there. It's just that's one of the thing

685
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: is I said, there's no perfect time when you're going on,

686
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: when you're gonna make that move. And that's what's been

687
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: interesting for sure.

688
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 4: Where are you at?

689
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: What you think? Go Orlando? Everybody?

690
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 5: I was the one who brought Orlando. You didn't I

691
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 5: threw that name out there?

692
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

693
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Land.

694
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 6: I know how tough they are to score against. The

695
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 6: first and foremost they can fucking guard. They don't have

696
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 6: a matchup that you want to go at. I know

697
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 6: in the NBA, you're gonna run fifty five pick of

698
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 6: rolls till you find that one guy you want to attack.

699
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: Every time.

700
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 6: There's not a match up in that star lineup that

701
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 6: you want to attack, not fucking one. Trust me, I

702
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 6: know I played against those motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying.

703
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: All of them got linked all of them can move

704
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 5: their fucking feet all the time.

705
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: You make a post.

706
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: They trust me. I know those motherfuckers.

707
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 5: So coach, motherfucker, coach got his fucking locker room. You

708
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. They didn't shoot it well.

709
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: But let's ask this question. I'm curious. I'm both of you.

710
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: His answer. Who is the winner and loser of the draft? What? What?

711
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: What rookie makes an impact on on a playoff team

712
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: this this year?

713
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: How about Read Sheppard?

714
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: He's good man?

715
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: How about Read Shepard?

716
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 5: Put that boy in the blended the other day? Didn't

717
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: he man?

718
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: He cooking?

719
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: He was frying today.

720
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: He comes from a great pedigree to his parents.

721
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 5: Awesome, awesome death Listen, I like I like a young

722
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: fellow Memphis too.

723
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: So that's why I think you threw me a softball.

724
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 5: I think that he's gonna be the guy I mean

725
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: they lost.

726
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: It's an impact.

727
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: Here's here's what makes thing since thing right. You have

728
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: a team that was decimated with injuries last year. You

729
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: get the ninth pick in the draft. You answer a

730
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: question that was nestlately needed. You need to me Jared

731
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: Jackson to his natural position, which killer right. So now

732
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: you're starting lineup looks really really good. They still healthy.

733
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: That's a team that I think made it, had a

734
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: great spot.

735
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: I think that's a great draft.

736
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: That was my that was my Memphis.

737
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: This year they're gonna be awesome.

738
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 6: And that's why when people the Lakers, that's why when

739
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 6: people ask that the Lakers will make the playoffs, I'm like,

740
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 6: how the fuck Memphis gonna be healthy again this year?

741
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: Like, I just don't see the math.

742
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: A math is a Western going to make the playoffs?

743
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: Last year? I jo Western Conference Finals? You got?

744
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 6: Okay, see, you got Dallas, you got Memphis. Who's gonna

745
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 6: be healthy this year?

746
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: You got?

747
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: I mean, help me out here.

748
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: You got the Sacramentos. How are they going to be?

749
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Like?

750
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: You? Like that?

751
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 6: I love them quiet quite quietly. Doesn't get the credit

752
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 6: he deserves for for being a fucking bucket. I mean,

753
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 6: if you look on the list of scores, he's like

754
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 6: top fifteen or something in the list of scores. So

755
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 6: he doesn't get the credit that he deserves. But he's

756
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: a fucking bucket. I loved thee.

757
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: I'm glad marro how come his how come he didn't

758
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: get a bigger deal and it wasn't more active at

759
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: the beginning of the trade of a free agency.

760
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: Well, I think when the incumbent team isn't there for

761
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: you as a suitor, and and the bulls are moving on,

762
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: the Bulls are going, They're going, They're going in another direction.

763
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: They're retooling.

764
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: However you want to phrase it, Zach Lavine, if they

765
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: can find it, like the grenade word.

766
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that one. They're doing something

767
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: that they're doing something that I can't believe.

768
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: You know, trade Caruso bag of chips in a soda.

769
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have the bag of chips in soda.

770
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: So so why so you open bag?

771
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 5: So it was one of the bag that is closed,

772
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: but it's halfway full.

773
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm just think Josh Getty is going to have a

774
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: good season for the Bulls.

775
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: I think you know he's he's listen. This is no

776
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 5: disrespect to Josh Giddy.

777
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: But when I look at the it was trades, I

778
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: feel like, what Caruso is gonna do for OKC, there's

779
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 6: gonna be a lot more influential in what Josh Getty.

780
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 6: Josh Getty still has a lot to figure out.

781
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. This is not a knock

782
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: on Josh Giddy as a basketball player.

783
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: I have heard though that Lonzo Ball is looking good

784
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: though in his workouts.

785
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: I will say I have heard that he's freaking good too,

786
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: if he's healthy.

787
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: But going back to tomorrow, I think the biggest thing,

788
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: and you know, as an agent, like if the incumbent team.

789
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: Start your whole leverage, that's that's the leverage point.

790
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: But this is the second straight time, you know, damorrow

791
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: Derozen has gone into free agency and he's had to

792
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: go seek a sign in trade. So you do to

793
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: an extent in a in a broken market, and you

794
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: think about all the cashpways teams that were really all no,

795
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: not not winning, or you know, Detroit.

796
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: Had cap space.

797
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: San Antonio obviously used their castwras on Harrison Barnes and

798
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Chris Paul Orlando castres they used on KCP Philly using

799
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: on Paul George Utah, they're holding their cast RaSE Larry.

800
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: Markenen, whatever else is going on.

801
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: So you look at the.

802
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Marketplace, same thing happened tomorrow Rowe and last time in Fezi.

803
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: So I will say the last two deals in the

804
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: last his last two deals have been a combined five

805
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: years one hundred and forty one million dollars in a

806
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: market where it's crazy in a market, but in a

807
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: market where you don't have you're not going to a

808
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: cap space team, so you're really manufacturing a market.

809
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: But think about that for a second. Five years one

810
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 3: forty one for tomorrow Rosa and these dudes were out

811
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: here signing two seventy five and three hundreds. It's it's

812
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: speaking of two seventy five and three hundreds go to

813
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: one to fifty six. Jalen Brunson.

814
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: Wow that that Yeah? Great?

815
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously a great move for the New York Knicks.

816
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: What do you think Mike as as an agent?

817
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: I have most conversations on the way here in a

818
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: car with people that know the business very very well,

819
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: and I can't get my hands around it. I mean,

820
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: you know, obviously, listen at the end of the day,

821
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty six million, When people say it

822
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: to me, it's like, come on, man, like, we worked

823
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: our entire life in this business and been fortunate as

824
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: hell and blessed as hell didn't touch one fifty six.

825
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: So there's part of that I understand. But if he

826
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: just plays it out, it's what three hundred.

827
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 5: Close to it.

828
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he gave up one hundred thirty millions. Yes,

829
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirteen million was the thing that he

830
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: gave up. I just don't I don't. I don't understand.

831
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: I don't understand it. I don't understand it. That's an agent.

832
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: It's hard. Like again, I'm all the power to him.

833
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could ever say give up on.

834
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 5: Hundred and thirty What do you think the ownership on

835
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: the back end?

836
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: You think that happened?

837
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 5: Shit? What else they gave him?

838
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, because how old is Jayalen Bronson?

839
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson has to be late twenties. You would you

840
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: would say, let's that means?

841
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: That means after five years he's gonna be a nick

842
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: for what I'm saying, after seven. So after five years

843
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: and assistant coach there, but after five years he's thirty two.

844
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: Put it on tips years, he's thirty seven.

845
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 6: You're gonna be a nick for the rest of your

846
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 6: career and then when it's time, we're gonna make sure

847
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 6: we take care of you for his dad.

848
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Is on the coaching staff right.

849
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: Awesome, people, Listen, I'm telling you it's amazing to me.

850
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: Like heroes former agent yep. So there's a lot of family.

851
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: No, I get it, I get I just it's just

852
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: when it comes out, it's like, okay, I mean, he's

853
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: gonna be taken care of.

854
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: That came out of nowhere, right, am I wrong?

855
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: Well, he it had been out that he was considering

856
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: it heavily to take that because it this new second

857
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: apron that this and now we're seeing it around the league.

858
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: The lack of trades, a big big trades at different points,

859
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: like their deals. Some teams can't make like the Clippers,

860
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: they wanted to move Paul George for another play, like

861
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: they they legitimately like let's say they want to do

862
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: PG for Jimmy Butler, for example, they couldn't do that

863
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: under the current system that we're in in the NBA

864
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: Collective Bargaining Agreement. So there are a lot of moves

865
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: right now that that are being hindered.

866
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: I think with that.

867
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: I've talked to the league executives here at Summer League

868
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: and they're feeling the impact of that.

869
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: But you know, you have to navigate it.

870
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: So this alleviates a lot of that for the next

871
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to pay guys moving forward.

872
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: I mean Michael Bridges when.

873
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: It's time for him to come up.

874
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, there's a there's a standard here, right, yea,

875
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: there's a standard.

876
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: You bet your best players doing it. Yeah, But it's

877
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: like wow, because then you got og, you getting hut

878
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 3: two five.

879
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 6: Man, a man and someone in the back, and he's

880
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 6: playing a long game. Y'all don't want to hear.

881
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guarantee you.

882
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 6: I guarantee here, guarantee, I guarantee, I guarantee here never

883
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 6: was another uniform. And I guarantee that God damn Madison

884
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: Square gon gonna be an open door for him for

885
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 6: the rest of his life.

886
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: And it should be. If you do that, and loser

887
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: when you see the problem, when you.

888
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 6: See him, when you see him in retirement, he won't

889
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 6: be sitting courts like a retired player.

890
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 5: He'd be sitting in the owner's box.

891
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: That's how you understand. That's how it's going to understand this.

892
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: And I hope you understand this, because everybody understand this.

893
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: It's not promised this is gonna work out. Either that

894
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: team that's listen, they're really good and they talk about

895
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: a lot of things. But that team right there, ain't

896
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: just there gonna be top.

897
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 6: For whether let me tell you something, whether they win

898
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 6: a championship, but not the City of New York and

899
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 6: an organization look at rust any.

900
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 5: Different hundred about him. But here's the deal though, about him,

901
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: Like what happened a couple other motherfuckers differently, but not him.

902
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 4: What happens if that team is really really bad?

903
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 6: No, I doubt that, And if they are, I bet

904
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 6: the City of New York still stand behind brunt.

905
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: New York, New York.

906
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 5: He's just gonna keep fine. He could be the only

907
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: he's gonna be.

908
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: He's the most traitable contract I.

909
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: Bet to get better.

910
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 6: And exactly that's why I'm telling he got someone to

911
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 6: back it. Motherfucking He ain't dumb. His daddy ain'tdumb, his

912
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 6: agent ain't dumb. So for him to make that move,

913
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 6: there was some conversation about you're gonna.

914
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 5: Be alright, what happens if the trade comes up?

915
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: You're bad?

916
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 5: You ain't just here what I said.

917
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: I heard it.

918
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 4: You don't think these dudes lie?

919
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 6: Of course they lie, but they ain't doing it to him.

920
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: It's certain, motherfuckers that she ain't gonna suck over. Like

921
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 6: I said, he got the city. They got the city

922
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 6: behind him, He got a spiked behind him, He got

923
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: the hold and fucking.

924
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 5: God behind him.

925
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: His daddy on the coaching staff coaching statue. Does he

926
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: get the statue?

927
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 5: If they win?

928
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: He will one hundred I'm saying right now, and I'm saying,

929
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: this is the way he should have. He should have

930
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: all these things. His dad's amazing. The kid was amazing.

931
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: But the man, the kid has always taken less and

932
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: he keeps taking less, which I commend, I really do.

933
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: But it's it's gonna be interesting because it's not guaranteed

934
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: they're gonna be like Boston's gonna be Bill Like, if

935
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: you're not a top four team, Like.

936
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 5: Don't think they know that? Do you think they know that?

937
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: It's not guaranteed that they're gonna win?

938
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: They do? They do? You great?

939
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm just getting I'm getting, I'm getting educated.

940
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: I love it though, because he's committed to winning.

941
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 6: You let me ask you something. Let me tell you

942
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 6: ask you something. As a fucking agent, if this is

943
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 6: your client, what can.

944
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: I advise against it?

945
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

946
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no? If what? What? What deal?

947
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 6: Or what could a team offer you that makes you

948
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 6: not advise against it, but say, okay, we feel comfortable

949
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 6: doing it.

950
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 5: What could they possibiz There's.

951
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: Not a scenario that I'd feel like I would if

952
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: I was advising my client, I would say, don't whatever whatever.

953
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: If you're saying this stuff's all on the back end,

954
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: whatever they're saying to you, you're taking that with a

955
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: grain of salt. It made it probably is not gonna

956
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: have or could not happen. What you go And if

957
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: you're cool with that going into it and you want

958
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: to take the one fifty six has a chance to win,

959
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: that's all blessings to me. I'm good with that. Like

960
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna say don't take it. I'm just gonna

961
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 3: give you the pros and the cons of not taking

962
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: it right. Like, the reality situation is he came there

963
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: on a not basically wasn't supposed to be a Max

964
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: dude killed it and it has been unbelievable and now

965
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: you have your opportunity to really cash in at twenty

966
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: seven years old. Twenty eight years old. That means you're

967
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: in a situation where you only know there's one more left.

968
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: So I mean, so why why can't he be like

969
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 6: one of those situations where he has one of those

970
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 6: bust of Posey deals where he just plays his career

971
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 6: like bust the Posey played in San Francisco and went

972
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 6: straight into the part ownership like he did. Why can't

973
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 6: be one of those situations. So if you're his fucking

974
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 6: agent and the fucking Nicks, put that on the table.

975
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 6: But but that doesn't need to talk about it over there.

976
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 6: Just guess what, don't just tell him note.

977
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, let me can I because this

978
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: is where you all, me and him get the bangs.

979
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I apologize.

980
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 3: He was amazing.

981
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: Every Buster Posey.

982
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: There's a Custer Cozy, a Western wosey. Yeah, there's a

983
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: bunch of people that have been promised stuff.

984
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 5: To get promised a goddamn thing from nobody. God damn it,

985
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: let's not go jayln Brus.

986
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: I want this to be clear. I'm here for what

987
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: he did. I'm just telling you that it's it's interesting

988
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: that he did it, that's all.

989
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you, killer that you gotta believe for

990
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 6: how much money he left on the table, how unfucking

991
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: believable it was for him to do that, that there

992
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 6: had to be a conversation. It's really what it's really

993
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 6: so it's really fun to make when you a conversation

994
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 6: about what when you look at.

995
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: That connections though, when you look at the connections, you understand, yes,

996
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: familiar is that.

997
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: And let me tell you something that should happen.

998
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: I really do believe it, Like if that's the case,

999
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: I should happen.

1000
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: Like all suff that ain't no love familiar that much

1001
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: you got that you don't love. You don't love it.

1002
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 6: We don't love leon and not motherfucking much. There was

1003
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 6: a conversation about what comes next. I guarantee that ain't

1004
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 6: that much goddamn.

1005
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: Love in the world.

1006
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: There's a conversation about what comes.

1007
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: He's got, he's got the intel.

1008
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: I got the intail, I got coming goddamn thing.

1009
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: I tell you right now. I'm happy for what happened.

1010
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 3: I hope it works out. I really do. I hope

1011
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: they're I hope they're great. I really do, because I

1012
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: love when New York next basketball is good. I hope

1013
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: it's I hope it doesn't. Back to back to back

1014
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: to you, back to you real quick. When you're going

1015
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: to get information and drop stuff, is it through agents

1016
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: who are straight cocksuckers. I hate agents. I'm just saying

1017
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: I'm being for I'm an agent. I'm being funny. Game

1018
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: or is your team? Where do you get your most

1019
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: information from?

1020
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's anyone, anyone and any and everyone could

1021
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: could be anyone?

1022
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: Wow, could be you? D the man?

1023
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: Ain't it to tell you who is?

1024
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: I'm working?

1025
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: Might be singing back work.

1026
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: Informist.

1027
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 6: He is not to release they. I didn't ye appreciate that.

1028
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 6: I respect it. I didn't even know you know, I

1029
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: wouldn't even know.

1030
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get you to say something, all right. Being

1031
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 4: a Bowl super fan, who's the goat?

1032
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Who?

1033
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: Who's the goat? Being a Well fan, you're a Bowl

1034
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: super fan.

1035
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: That's the word on the street.

1036
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: You grew up as a super fan?

1037
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Who is up in Chicago?

1038
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: You rolled for the Bulls? You did the Bulls. You're

1039
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: a Bulls fan. Who's the goat?

1040
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 2: You really put me on spot.

1041
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: Spot? So for me?

1042
00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: For me, obviously, who's your goat? Mike Lebron, who's your goal?

1043
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: You're not gonna ask answer his question. You're not gonna

1044
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 5: answer this question with a question.

1045
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 6: That's what you're not gonna do. This is we gotta

1046
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 6: get your answer first. Now when we come on running back,

1047
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 6: answer your ship. Make sure y'all tune in and run

1048
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 6: it back this podcast. But yeah, go ahead, shout it out, run.

1049
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 3: It back, Williams.

1050
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: I know Shelby.

1051
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 5: I know.

1052
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: Okay, now now you're asking, I know his So it's

1053
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: it's for me growing up.

1054
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Like when MJ won his six championship, I was four

1055
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: years old, So it's hard for me to people like,

1056
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: you know, watch the YouTube videos and watch the games.

1057
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: Over like you have to. It's an experience. I feel

1058
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: like the greatest of all time is an.

1059
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Experience, right, And for me growing up, Kobe was someone

1060
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: that I watched very closely and like, you know, the

1061
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: mama mentality, the killer instinct, Like I feel like some

1062
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: of those attributes I felt like as a young you know, minority,

1063
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, parents from Pakistani background, Like I feel I

1064
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: could apply some of that in my daily life, you know,

1065
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: the killer mentality and like just go get it, you

1066
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: know this every single day.

1067
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: So for me, that was something I gravitated toward.

1068
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: But obviously you know, as you know, you follow the

1069
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Lebron James of the world, and uh, you know, living

1070
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: in Chicago, like Derrick Rose has come up when he was.

1071
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: Like when his MVP year, I was a sophomore. I

1072
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: think I was.

1073
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: I was in high school. I think my senior year

1074
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: high school. Actually it was it was an experience, like

1075
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: I feel like your favorite players are an experience, and

1076
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: and you know Lebron. I was covering Lebron like I

1077
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: was going to those games, you know. So yeah, that

1078
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: that's kind of like think.

1079
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: I had to ask a question, I hate the question. Yeah.

1080
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you realize I didn't give a full answer.

1081
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: I mentioned some players get answer. You see that you did.

1082
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, Lebron James are right there. I don't give

1083
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: damn who you say. I'm cool with it.

1084
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 6: I tell people this all the time. Man, my goat

1085
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 6: is MJ. The goat is Lebron, my go to MJ.

1086
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 6: I grew up the mentality watching he could come fly

1087
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 6: with me fifteen times a day. You answered his answer,

1088
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 6: watching fucking come fly with me fifteen times. The experience,

1089
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 6: you know, when you look on paper and that molded

1090
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 6: my mentality.

1091
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: You look at Lebron and all of his numbers and

1092
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: everything he's done.

1093
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 5: That's why MJ is my goat. Lebron is the goat.

1094
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1095
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: Two things can be true.

1096
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1097
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: So I'm being honest. I hate the question I ask,

1098
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: but you know what I'm gigging.

1099
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't get shops and say fuck it's.

1100
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: None of those guys molded my mentality. MJ helped mold

1101
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 5: my Mike.

1102
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: I didn't give up. I didn't give it.

1103
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: You didn't. You gave me a half. You know how

1104
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 3: they word one of those things where they tweeted sources, rumors.

1105
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: One thing about it, the rumors, one thing about it,

1106
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: two damn things for show. It ain't MJ because you

1107
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 6: say it was four years old.

1108
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: So he was watching, so he rued first.

1109
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 5: So it's between first.

1110
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: We knew that was gonna be fucked up because he said,

1111
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: he said, Derek Rose, he's a sophomore height.

1112
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an experience experience.

1113
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: I've said this some time, like Rihanna's question when you

1114
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: when you ask me what top five players of all time?

1115
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: As good as some of those guys were, I didn't

1116
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: see my own two eyes. I can't say he's a

1117
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: top five player like I can't do it, like Shack's

1118
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: my best big man of all time period. Don't ask

1119
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: me a question was dominant for us I've ever seen

1120
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: And they'll say career and God bless their unbelievable talents.

1121
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: I didn't watch them, So why do you want me

1122
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: to say that I can't go watch?

1123
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: But you look at the numbers like you're just looking

1124
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: from a purely numbers perspective for for lb J just

1125
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: numbers Lebron James and.

1126
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: The top every major category possible.

1127
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: What it's all over?

1128
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he has he has the accolades and

1129
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: the pedigree to say this is the guy.

1130
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: Since we're talking Lebron. We got fan questions here at

1131
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: tho GZ. Fans love to ask you questions.

1132
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: This I'm asked questions. Sometimes they ask questions.

1133
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: But don't worry, do you the glasses off and you'll

1134
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 3: cuss him out. Yeah, Why do you think the media

1135
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: is putting so much pressure on Bronnie James?

1136
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: Because because because, I mean, you're in a position where obviously, like,

1137
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: let's the elephant in the room is his dad is

1138
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: Lebron James.

1139
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: And that is a part of like like that is.

1140
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: The legacy that he is walking into as as and

1141
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: what they did was his story first ever father's son

1142
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: duo to play in the NBA.

1143
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: It's the greatest story of all time.

1144
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's never been done.

1145
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I would have never been

1146
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: anything to do that with my life.

1147
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: It's never been done. It's it's history.

1148
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: And so anytime you're a part of history, you're part

1149
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: of the limelight, you're part of the eyes. There's going

1150
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: to be this and especially when your dad is Lebron James,

1151
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be this level of pressure of expectation. And

1152
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: I think I think Lebron actually spoke to it publicly,

1153
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: like the fact that you know, like Bronnie's just wired

1154
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: to friend. You know, he doesn't pay attention to anything.

1155
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: He's just he's locked in. You guys, You guys know

1156
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: Lebron better than I. You know, being around being a.

1157
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: Teammate Bronnie James, little Brownie is fucking awesome.

1158
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: Feel let me tell you something. He's no there.

1159
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 6: I understand there's probably no other kid that could possibly

1160
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 6: be in this situation, but there is no other kid

1161
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 6: that could be more prepared for this particular situation or

1162
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 6: who can handle this particular situation as a father, as

1163
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 6: a businessman, I've never seen.

1164
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 5: Lebron James and his team and his family and.

1165
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 6: His people throw ship at the wall just to see

1166
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 6: if it's stick.

1167
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: To calculate.

1168
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: They don't do that.

1169
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 6: They are calculated, They are sharp, they are smart. There

1170
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: is nobody more prepared than Brownie James. I'm wishing him

1171
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 6: the best. Stop fucking hating going on, and stop hating. Man,

1172
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 6: were talking about nepotism and all that ship. Stop fucking hating.

1173
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 6: We've been watching this ship go for years, for years,

1174
00:46:51,360 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 6: especially me and you, maybe not you. This if it

1175
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: is how many times that we've been people got passed over.

1176
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 6: It was qualified because somebody brought in their nephew.

1177
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: That's why he told me. That's why they driveted me fifth.

1178
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: That's what he talk like.

1179
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 5: That got that God damn, I never I never knocked

1180
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: your chalent.

1181
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 6: You've always been in unicorn. I've heard about people like

1182
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 6: you until I saw you. I don't think motherfucker white

1183
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 6: West can play. And I saw Mike mill and I

1184
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 6: went back to mind. I told everybody what I say,

1185
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 6: I see this motherfucking white boy.

1186
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: It's insane what they're doing.

1187
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: Though.

1188
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: It's like this has never been the.

1189
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: First of all to do it though, like the reality

1190
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: situation that took a person of him, only him, unhuman

1191
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: to do this for twenty one, twenty.

1192
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: Two years to last as long as your son.

1193
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: That's why why he's spoken in the existence.

1194
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: He said this public years ago and it happened.

1195
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 6: While it's they come out and say that he's the best,

1196
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 6: he's in the best shape. But he's the best player

1197
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 6: at the fucking USA right now in training camp.

1198
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: Crazy guy's not how I was at USA training camp.

1199
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: It's it's it's inhumane.

1200
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: How he woke. I'm telling you he's he's not. He's

1201
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: a testing baby. Next question, why does why does Bam

1202
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: get no? That's a good question actually because we talked

1203
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: about Bam getting no. Does not get the respect when

1204
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: it comes to defensive Player of Year conversations every year.

1205
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Well, I've given him his flowers. I have given vote

1206
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: someone we got to have the receipts. I have had

1207
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: to vote the last couple of week. I've had him

1208
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: on the defensive I've had him on all the all

1209
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: defensive teams. I've definitely voted him on you know as

1210
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: as the top three defensive play of the year.

1211
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: But I will say I have given him his flowers.

1212
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: Multiple Gobert this year for defensive spot.

1213
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: I did.

1214
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: You.

1215
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: I feel like you're well equipped. You're well equipped to

1216
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: answer the question of the Bam situation.

1217
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: Because because because I've given Bam his flowers, because there

1218
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: were points in the of the of last season, even

1219
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: the year prior where you guys have had a ton

1220
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: of injury, and you guys wouldn't even like that.

1221
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: He wouldn't even be.

1222
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: In playoff contention if it wasn't for BAM's dominance on

1223
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: both ends the four, especially on defense, which is why

1224
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's been an All Star. You know

1225
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: that he's been the representative in the All Star Game

1226
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: the last few seasons because he's been the guy that's

1227
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: led this team and has carried the seam. And then

1228
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: he also got rewarded three years, won sixty six extension,

1229
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: shut off on the max extension.

1230
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 6: So he's the I just think it's just not to

1231
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 6: certain people. I just feel like the Miami he's not

1232
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 6: sexy enough. You know, we're a lunch pail hard had

1233
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 6: team chop wood carry water. You know what I'm saying,

1234
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 6: We're just not sexy enough. But at the end of

1235
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 6: the day, you look at the last four or five years,

1236
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 6: it's either been US of Boston. You know what I'm saying,

1237
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 6: that's been right there, Milwaukee got in there, they got one,

1238
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 6: but it's been US a Boston. But you know, for me,

1239
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 6: I think what people don't understand about bam Adebayo is

1240
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 6: that not just our defense is spearheaded by him, but

1241
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 6: our offense as well. You know, we always know how

1242
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 6: well we're playing by how many shots Dnki Robinson get up.

1243
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 6: You know how many shots Caleb Martin get up, how

1244
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 6: many shots that our other guys get up. And that's

1245
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 6: all built off the movement of bam at A Bayo.

1246
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 6: I mean, he's our trigger. Sometimes he plays the point

1247
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 6: forward for us. So there's so many things that bam

1248
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 6: got a process. Offensively, it's not just throw the ball

1249
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 6: to Bama let him go. Secondly, defensively, who the fuck

1250
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 6: you know that play the five that you can start

1251
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 6: off on Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum in the fucking game.

1252
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 6: We started bam on Jalen Brown one game and Jason

1253
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 6: Tatum on another game. In the fucking playoffs, Name another

1254
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 6: five man can do that.

1255
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna get on from Miko.

1256
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 6: See now, what O G don't do is OJ don't

1257
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 6: come with that bush og got facts, you know what

1258
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

1259
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 5: So when y'all sit that home, y'all voting.

1260
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 4: For the classes.

1261
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 6: And I like Rudy, But every time he played against

1262
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 6: the Joker called the police. Yeah, oh, hold on that,

1263
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 6: every time he played against the Joker Joker, Yes, yes,

1264
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 6: what he says. I don't even know what Joker told.

1265
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 6: I got forty six, my friend, and you got them.

1266
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 6: You got them live and in my mind, and I

1267
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 6: don't give a damn. I'm never gonna change it. The

1268
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 6: defensive player that you should never need help, should never

1269
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 6: need help. Ever, if you're the fucking defense, play to you,

1270
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 6: you gotta go out your fuck y'all. Anybody in your position,

1271
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 6: you should never need help.

1272
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 5: So that's just I.

1273
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: Never needed help. That's sat down and guard we're talking about.

1274
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: You don't want.

1275
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 6: Always had always had the right mindset of being a

1276
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 6: great team to send.

1277
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: That's what he had. That's what he was doing, was

1278
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 5: gonna be the little man to take a change.

1279
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: That's the sure last question, all right, best young team

1280
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: in your opinion? I think I know the answer, But

1281
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: go ahead.

1282
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 5: I know what I was.

1283
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: I mean, there are a few. There are a few.

1284
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: I think we can still look at Memphis as a

1285
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: young team. I Orlando, Oklahoma City?

1286
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, who am I missing? Off the top

1287
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: of my head, Mike.

1288
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, see Orlando Memphis are about the three

1289
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: of your best young teams. I mean, are you considered.

1290
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: Still considered Memphis young because the last two?

1291
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: And I think with a fully healthy By the way,

1292
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be report if I didn't ask Josh summer

1293
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: what the summer looked like?

1294
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: How's he doing, how's he feeling? How ready is he?

1295
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: I saw he was cleared for five on.

1296
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: This guy's freaking he's really good at.

1297
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 2: That's how he's cleared for five on five.

1298
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 3: I'm telling you guys right now, John Moran is coming

1299
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: for all the work this year, all of it.

1300
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: M you heard, how soon?

1301
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 3: How soon they forget?

1302
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: That's all we how soon forget no better source on

1303
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: the job, they forget.

1304
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: That's all. I'll say. He's about to come for it.

1305
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to see a fully healthy Memphis team.

1306
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: I am to actually the city, the city wants it.

1307
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun.

1308
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna be.

1309
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: Fun and like like they have.

1310
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: They have Marcus Smart who last year, you know, because

1311
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: of the ups and downs in the season, and then

1312
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: he got he had injuries.

1313
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: Dez was out a lot of games.

1314
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: Jared Jackson is going to get to see what this

1315
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: product looks like.

1316
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: Zach eating next to him. Like they love guys in

1317
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 3: natural positions, the reality situation, even when even when Job

1318
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: was out, like guys were playing in the and not

1319
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 3: their positions. And then when John came back, everyone slip

1320
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: to the national positions. Gause they're good again. Right, So

1321
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 3: it's it's interesting.

1322
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna social back on this one because you avoided

1323
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 5: this question. You kind of a ducted. Now, how the

1324
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 5: Lakers get due the Lakers get in the playoffs? Got Dallas,

1325
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 5: We've got Memphis, We've got Minnesota.

1326
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: See, I'm telling you, he's gonna be starting his business

1327
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: to see the.

1328
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 5: Lakers get in because you tried to, you try to.

1329
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: Well, I I don't know, but I think if Lebron,

1330
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: if Lebron, James, Anthony David stay healthy, you have a

1331
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: chance they were.

1332
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: Healthy last year.

1333
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 6: You got they've been playing, they playing, they've been playing,

1334
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 6: and then in this world.

1335
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: Are we count playing this playoffs?

1336
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: Well some teams, For some teams it matters as much,

1337
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: but for the Lakers it can't. Yeah, but this playoffs,

1338
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: playoffs is the playoffs.

1339
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: You have to make the playoffs.

1340
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 5: We keep talking about putting them in, but who then

1341
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 5: were taking out? I agree, because now one do you'll

1342
00:53:52,880 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 5: have Denver cold, Minnesota, Daphis down, Memphis, sack, Sacramento. We're not.

1343
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 5: We don't Knowlicans are gonna be the Pelicans, Plicans? Who else?

1344
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: The list can go on, This can go on. Are

1345
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 5: we missing anybody?

1346
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: The Phoenix?

1347
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: What about Phoenix?

1348
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: Phoenix?

1349
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 5: Fuck Phoenix?

1350
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: What do you think about Phoenix? By the way, hold

1351
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: on real quick before the Houston?

1352
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, no, no, I don't know.

1353
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: San Antonio is a playoffs too soon?

1354
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: Too soon for I like, I like, I like Hughes,

1355
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: a lot of Houston's young talent. The thing with Houston

1356
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: now is gonna be is how when it comes now

1357
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: to it is who you pay, who you don't pay,

1358
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: or who moves out? Who doesn't read Shepherd of Men

1359
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 3: backing Jabbari Sungoon, Jalen Green. It's gonna be a lot

1360
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: of decisions to make playing great on here. That's where

1361
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: it really comes down to, and that's where you're you know,

1362
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: you make the money. But it's gonna be interesting.

1363
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: You know we played against you Bori Pops at l

1364
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 5: s U.

1365
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: I know we did. Every time I see him. It's crazy.

1366
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: I saw about the draft because he's the same draft

1367
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 3: as Apollo.

1368
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 5: So we're there getting sucking over.

1369
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: By the way.

1370
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: Can we get the can we get the Apollo draft story?

1371
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: Draft Nights story? That was the most quiet number one pick?

1372
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: You like that?

1373
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: That was good?

1374
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: You did you did you get the scoop before it

1375
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 4: happened that night?

1376
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: I think I did, but it was barely, barely barely.

1377
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: It was close. It was cutting it close. Orlando played

1378
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: it very close. The only the only person I know, and.

1379
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 4: It was Mike.

1380
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 6: Have you ever found out anything about a player and

1381
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 6: broke it before the play even new, like somebody was

1382
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 6: getting traded or something and they didn't even know yet,

1383
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 6: Like said, I hear about that all the time, Like

1384
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 6: players found out they got traded online and ship like that.

1385
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 5: Have you ever have you ever heard somebody I, damn man,

1386
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 5: I know.

1387
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Broke Sometimes they're selling that, but sometimes you know, good

1388
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: amount of times that's crazy.

1389
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 3: That's You're an absolute legend.

1390
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: Man. Appreciate, Appreciate you guys stopping here.

1391
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: Appreciate you stopped you guys.

1392
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: Oh geez, man, check us out.

1393
00:55:47,360 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: We're out of here, all right. Thanks. Oh my, my,

1394
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: my mama, my mama, my mam