1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: It's our one on this Wednesday, Dan and The Dance 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. And nobody loves love quite like I do. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: But I do need the audience's help because it was 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: a while ago where I think there were some skeptics 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: in this room about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Was 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: it true love? Was it a marketing ploy? Was it 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: a hoax? 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: You know? 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: Were they in on the joke? Were they truly in love? 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: And nobody loves love the way I do? And I said, no, 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: they're in love. And I made a bet with Fritzy 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: that when they got engaged that I would hit him 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: with a wedding cake in the face. But we can't 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: find the day that I said that. If an audience member, 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: either on social media or you called in and you 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: can help us locate that because I can't go through 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: with the bet until we find the audio that says 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: that I was going to hit Todd in the face 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: with the cake if they got engaged, which they did yesterday. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: Actually they got engaged two weeks ago, according to Travis's dad. 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: Yes, Hunt. 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 5: I do want to say for the record that I 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 5: too love love, But I thought it was gonna be 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 5: one of those celebrity Oprah's Deedman kind of things where 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 5: a lot of celebrity couples they don't actually go down 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 5: the aisle, they get engaged and they just kind of 29 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: stay as partners. Not that this wasn't a real thing. 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 5: I didn't. I don't think I ever said it was 31 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 5: a publicity stunt that they were together, but it was 32 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 5: more of a I just didn't see them, you know, 33 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 5: getting married anytime in the coming years. 34 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: If you have to know what you're looking for when 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: you see love, and that's the problem. 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: You don't see that. To me, I look past it. 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 4: It was obvious to me, it was obvious. 38 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 6: You were right on it. 39 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: Yes, that was yes, we Dan. 40 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 7: I'm mister semantics, you know, with any type of bet, 41 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 7: I'm curious. I remember you and Fritzy having a bet, 42 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 7: just like you said, but I don't remember the language 43 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 7: of the bet. Was it engaged or married? Those are 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 7: two different things. And if Fritzy wants to get out 45 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 7: of the bet, that would be a wiggle room. But 46 00:01:59,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 7: we are looking for it act. 47 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: But you have to get engaged though, yeah, before. 48 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 7: You get like a catch you have to complete the 49 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 7: process getting there. 50 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough. Well, they're officially engaged. 51 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: The biggest power couple in America made it official yesterday. 52 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, my round of applause. I love it. I 53 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: love it. So the thing I thought, well, a couple 54 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: of things I thought of. First of all, I get 55 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: to hit Todd with a wedding cake. But also, is 56 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: this the last year for Travis kelcey. It sounds like 57 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: he's got a very popular podcast with his brother. He 58 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: can do a lot of different things. He's going to 59 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: have a variety of NFL shows to work on if 60 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: he wants to. But it'll be more than that. He'll 61 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: be involved in more than just that. He's thirty five 62 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: and coming off his least productive season since twenty fourteen. 63 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: You got three Super Bowl rings, ten Pro Bowls, and 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: you're one of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. 65 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: And no matter what comes next, Kelsey, maybe you chase 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: one more time title and that would be this year 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: and then he probably steps away. But on and off 68 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: the field, Travis Kelsey has already won. Good Morning, those 69 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: watching on Peacock, thank you, downloading the app, those listening 70 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: on radio around the country, around the world. We say 71 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: good morning as well, Fritzi Sat and Marv Pauli yours 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: truly the backroom guys as well. On this Wednesday Full 73 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: Question Play the Day, stat of the Day, all of 74 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: that forthcoming college football come on down take center stage 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: starting Thursday night and goes all the way to Monday night, 76 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: and then we get ready for the NFL. We'll run 77 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: down some of the interesting points spreads for these games 78 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: coming up this weekend as well. Eight seven to seven 79 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: to three DP Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com Twitter 80 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: handle A DP Show stat of the Day is always 81 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: brought to you by Pinini America, the official trading cards 82 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: of the program. First hour brought to you by the 83 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: pros Express Employment Professionals. You can quit online job search 84 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: is you can enlist the pros Express never charges you 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: a fee to find a job. Go to expresspros dot com. 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: All right, Seatan, what's the poll question for the first 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: hour of this award nominated program. 88 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 8: I think we're gonna start with two. Is Travis Kelsey 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 8: more likely to retire now that he's engaged. You just 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 8: brought that to our attention. I'm gonna start with that. 91 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 8: All right, We're also kicking this around just a little earlier. 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 8: The NFL coach that needs to win a playoff game 93 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 8: this season, okay or else? 94 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: All right done, Dolphin said coach Mike McDaniel will be 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: on the program. Oh no, yeah, he'll be on the 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: program final hour. 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 7: I'm gonna pause between those two times. 98 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: Oh my bad, by bad. Shouldn't let him breathe a 99 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 4: little bit. There. 100 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: He's the odds on favorite right now, according to Vegas, 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: to lose his job or the first to lose his job, Yes, Seaton. 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 8: See, I would put it between him and Brian Dables. 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 8: I would too that he that's a fellow right there 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 8: that needs to win a game. 105 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: I would probably say Brian Dable because I don't think 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna be that good soon enough for him to 107 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: hold onto that job unless he's already been told you're 108 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: coaching next year. Mike McDaniel feels like you're on the clock. 109 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: You have to make the playoffs. You might have to 110 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: win a playoff game, yeah, PAULI. 111 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 7: Two years ago, under Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins had the 112 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 7: second rank scoring offense in the league. They were eleven 113 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 7: and six, and they were cruising. Last year, little banged 114 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 7: up eight to nine, their offense went down to twenty 115 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 7: second in the league. You definitely get a haul pass, 116 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 7: but it's got to improve, it's got to go back 117 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 7: to twenty twenty three. 118 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: I think you've got to make the playoffs. Got to 119 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. 120 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: Yes, Dodd rushould Mike Tomlin be on that list? Or 121 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 5: is it all up to Aaron Rodgers and how he performed, 122 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: so does he get another pass. I know the Steels 123 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: aren't quick to fire coaches in their history, but at 124 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 5: some points. 125 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what the odds are with Tomlin because 126 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: that they don't fire coaches in Pittsburgh. But the fan 127 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 2: base is fired up of let's get into the playoffs 128 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: and actually win a playoff game. And it for me 129 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: this and I don't have any information for me, it 130 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: feels like this could be Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers last 131 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: year's Now Rogers hasn't ruled out playing again and running 132 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: it back. But you know, after a while, you know, 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: your voice gets a little stale. And as great as 134 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is and he's going to be a Hall 135 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 2: of Fame coach, maybe there's something else out there, maybe 136 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: TV that he would be an analyst there. 137 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think when we're looking at a conversation like 138 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 8: this or a topic like this, I think that there's 139 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 8: different categories of coaches. That there are coaches who winning 140 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 8: a playoff game would save their job, say like Shane Steichen, right, 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 8: if the Colts won a playoff game, all right, dude, 142 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 8: you're good for another year. 143 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get you there. 144 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 8: But then there's other people that, like winning playoff games 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 8: probably isn't enough. 146 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: Like maybe, like Zach Taylor needs to win se he does. 147 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 8: That's a fellow right there that needs to not only 148 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 8: win a playoff game, but go have a run. 149 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: Because you can only live off the fumes of going 150 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: to a super Bowl for so long. Now, if he 151 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: won a super Bowl, then maybe it's a little bit different, 152 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more of an extended time. 153 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 154 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 8: See, it's like there are guys who are trying to 155 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 8: build something is one category, and then other coaches who 156 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 8: are wasting an opportunity. And he might fall into that, 157 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 8: Zach Taylor might fall into that, you know, these wasted 158 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 8: years category. 159 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know about Kevin Stefanski with the Cleveland 160 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: Browns because I don't know what the expectation level is there. 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: I've been told expect a little bit more, and to 162 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: which I said, to my sores, well, I'm not expecting much. 163 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: He goes, expect a little bit more. They will be 164 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: They're gonna surprise you. 165 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: I said, Okay. 166 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: If Flacco stays healthy, okay, But if he doesn't, then 167 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: it gets really interesting there. And then it gets kind 168 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: of choppy because you're not quite sure who's your quarterback 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: means for the future, and you always have that in 170 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: the back of your mind. They have two first round 171 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: picks next year. There's a chance that all of these 172 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: quarterbacks on the Browns may not be there next year, 173 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: or two of the three won't be there next year. 174 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: You got rookie contracts and you got Joe Flacco. 175 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, where do you put like a Brian Schottenheimer on 176 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 8: that list? 177 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I have to give him at least two years. 178 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: And Jerry likes to keep the guys in there that 179 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: really don't fight back. Yeah, that they kind of allow 180 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: him to be the owner and the coach and the 181 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: GM and it's his first year. 182 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 8: It is, but he also he doesn't I don't think 183 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 8: he has a guarantee after this year either is. 184 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: It just is it one year. 185 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 8: I think that his contract structure, I think I feel 186 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 8: like Florio posted up about it. His contract structure is 187 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 8: not built for longevity. It's built for a very quick out. 188 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 8: I might be wrong, though, Okay, PAULI do have Schottenheimer's Yeah. 189 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 7: Seed's partially right because it's a four year contract approximately 190 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 7: four point five million per year, which is very low 191 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 7: in the NFL. But there are some outs, easy outs 192 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 7: after two years. 193 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you give him two years. See what he 194 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: can do with that roster. Yeah, Paul. 195 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 7: Going back to the Bengals, I was looking at their history. 196 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: They're disturbing. They're very loyal to head coaches. 197 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 7: They've had two head coaches in twenty four years. 198 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: Marvin Lewis. 199 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 7: They allowed him a number of losing seasons, but he 200 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 7: never had two in a row. And you know Zach 201 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 7: Taylor hot start, but you know nine and eight the 202 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 7: past two years, no losing season. 203 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: Got to make the playoffs, got to make the playoffs. 204 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: All the money that you spent in the off season, 205 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: got to make the playoffs, yeah, Paul. 206 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: Or yes, Uh what about if we put on that list. 207 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 8: This isn't just a playoff game and this is a 208 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 8: guy that needs to have a significant run. I think 209 00:09:53,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 8: Sean McDermott, Yes, well, he's a great you know, their 210 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 8: regular seasons are great. 211 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: But. 212 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills need to go to the title game for sure, 213 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: for at least at least I think. 214 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: Okay, more pressure Dan Campbell or Sean McDermott because it 215 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: feels like it's Super Bowl or bust. Yeah, Marvin, I'm. 216 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 9: Gonna go with Dan Campbell, and I think going off 217 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 9: of the twenty four to seven lead that you had 218 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 9: in an NFC title game, it's time to get back. Yeah, 219 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 9: because it's not like the Bills were up twenty four 220 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 9: to seven on the Chiefs. Like all we could have 221 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 9: went to the super Bowl. The Lions could have went already. 222 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 223 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 8: I don't know, though, I mean, I think I feel 224 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 8: like there's got to be a lot of pressure on 225 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 8: Sean McDermott. If Josh Allen you have, you know you've 226 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 8: been able to get there, but you just can't get 227 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 8: over the hump necessarily. 228 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 229 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 8: I think that if you're a Bills fan, you're looking 230 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 8: You're not looking at the players and saying, why aren't 231 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 8: you doing this? 232 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: It feels like there's been more attention on Sean mcder 233 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: in recent years than Dan Campbell because we still I 234 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: think we're still trying to figure out the Lions that 235 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: that we're told they're good, they should be good, and 236 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: they had opportunities. They lose Aiden Hutchinson last year. Now 237 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: maybe we get that where you're expected to be a 238 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: super Bowl contender. 239 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, Marv, Yeah, I keep going with Dan Campbell. Also 240 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 9: because of the home playoff loss against the Commanders. They 241 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 9: got smoked last year at home, but. 242 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: You lost both coordinators in the off season. 243 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: Still a good offense, you get Aiden Hutchinson back, and 244 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: that division top to bottom. You know, I think people 245 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: are sleeping on the Vikings that I mean all of 246 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: a sudden, Sam Darnold became, you know, Joe Montana. I 247 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: mean they won thirteen games, but you know, all accounts, 248 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is playing well, whatever that means to you, 249 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: but that's you know what I've read. Hey, he's playing well. Okay, 250 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: is he playing well like he did at Michigan or 251 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: is he going to play well like an NFL quarterback 252 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: because you got to play a little more wellish if 253 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: you're going to be an NFL quarterback, not quarterback at Michigan. 254 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 4: Quarterback playing more wellish? Yeah, Jo, who's most wellish? Most wellish? 255 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: By the way of the week, I have a Dodger 256 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: fan and uh he texts all the time. He said, 257 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift got a ring before the padres did I 258 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: love the rivalries? I love it. 259 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: Ryan in Pennsylvania, Hi, Ry, what's on your mind today? 260 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 10: Solved your great mystery of the wedding cake bet. I 261 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 10: found a video and there's definitely some discrepancy. It sounds 262 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 10: like Dan said engagement. Fritzy said wedding. So you might 263 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 10: have to find an attorney now to settle at all. 264 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Ryan, stay on hold the back room. Guys want 265 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: to talk to you about, you know, the exact date 266 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: on that. So there's a there's a damn discrepancy. 267 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 7: I knew it would be semantics. 268 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: Well, we can vote on it, and if you guys 269 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: want to let Fritzie off the hook on that, yeah, 270 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: you know, let me find it first and then we 271 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: can listen to it. But I thought that the bet 272 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: was an engagement before I retired. For some reason, I 273 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: thought that there was a time frame to this. 274 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 4: Yes, Ton, I. 275 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 5: Am interested to see what was I can't honestly can't 276 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: remember it. If I'm doing cake, then so be it. 277 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 5: It's fun content, but I'm hopefully we can find it 278 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 5: and they get to the bottom. 279 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: That doesn't help it. It doesn't mean it does not 280 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: help them. You had nothing to say. 281 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: There, They didn't. 282 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: I guess you thought. 283 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: Everybody has body language. I didn't raise my head. 284 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: All the dants have body language that I'm you know, 285 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to call them out because if you're listening 286 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: on radio, I want you to know the name and 287 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: the voice. And Todd leaned In, Seaton has a little 288 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: bit of a hand up, PAULI puts one finger up, 289 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: Marv leans In or he'll have his hand up five 290 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: or six times in a row. And just trying to 291 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: read body language there, how about we take a break. 292 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: We're just getting started. I love love. 293 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 6: I didn't mean to confuse you there. 294 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: It's okay. 295 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: You need to get away from the mic a little 296 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: bit more so you don't think I'm trying to say something. 297 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like you're leaning into the microphone, as 298 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: if you're gonna be able to hear in the microphone, 299 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: like you're leaning in to hear what I'm saying odd. 300 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 5: It's one of my many quirks that they hate to 301 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 5: work on. 302 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: And once again, you can't spell todd without odd. 303 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: Oh. 304 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 305 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 306 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 307 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 11: Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're 308 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 11: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 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Which coach do 335 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: you think has to have a playoff win this year? 336 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: A playoff win. 337 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 6: Is such an interesting way to frame it because I 338 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 6: I just I was thinking about it in terms of 339 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 6: making the playoffs. If Zach Taylor doesn't make the playoffs, 340 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 6: he's fired. Like I don't think Mike McDaniel has to 341 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 6: win a playoff game. I disagree with that, And it's 342 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 6: not just because he's on in an hour. And by 343 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 6: the way, have you ever had in a show two 344 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 6: more physically imposing guests back to back than me than 345 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel? My god, I mean, the testosterone in this 346 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 6: room off the charts. Like if the Dolphins make the playoffs, 347 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 6: he's as safe as can be because the expectations have 348 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: been lowered you know what I mean. So I would go, 349 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 6: this is gonna sound insane, but I would go, like 350 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 6: John Harball, they better win a playoff game like the 351 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 6: and I know that's the he's a great coach, Sean McDermott. 352 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 6: They need to win a playoff game like it's the 353 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 6: Make the playoffs is the threshold to me for the 354 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: coach who could be on the hot seat win a 355 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 6: playoff game as the coach who oh, he's totally safe, unless, 356 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 6: of course, this year ends in tragedy because we think 357 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 6: we can win the Super Bowl. We don't even make 358 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 6: it out of round one. So those are the those 359 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 6: are the people I would have put on there if 360 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 6: I know that's a little counterintuitive, but that's how that's 361 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 6: how I view it. 362 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: What about more pressure to win a playoff game Mike 363 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: Tomlin or John Harbaugh. 364 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: Tomlin? 365 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 6: Tom Tomlin is Yeah, that that's another good one because 366 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 6: he's in his own unique category where he in a 367 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 6: weird way. Steeler fans likely would be more okay with 368 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 6: four and thirteen bottom falls out than the seventh seed 369 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: make the playoffs and get clocked by Josh Allen again, 370 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like seriously, like the and 371 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 6: so yeah, I think Tomlin. Tomlin's better off missing the 372 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 6: playoffs and breaking a streak than making the playoffs and 373 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: using in round one, which is maybe not fair, but 374 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 6: I think that's reality. 375 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: I veried the leading how emotional was yesterday when you 376 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: found out that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey Gravisgate. 377 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 6: I'm very very happy for him. I also, you know 378 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 6: this is it's moments like that where I just wish 379 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 6: we had a take czar that held people accountable. And 380 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna name names here, and I know you're 381 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 6: gonna ask me to, but I won't do it. I 382 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 6: would just like for the people who two years ago 383 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 6: were very adamant that the relationship was a work, was 384 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 6: publicity stun all of those things? Did they do they? 385 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 6: Is there a moment of public shame? Is there a 386 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 6: moment of apology? Is there a moment of you know what, 387 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 6: I shouldn't have doubted? What is America's greatest love story? 388 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 6: For my own Twitter gain, I don't know, Like they 389 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 6: seemed to be really into each other and it seems 390 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 6: to be a healthy, delightful relationship and now they're getting married. 391 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 6: Now I know what your follow up question is going 392 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 6: to be, which is am I going to be invited 393 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 6: to the wedding, to which I would say, that's a 394 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 6: very rude question to. 395 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: Ask, well, because I was going to ask you who 396 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: will be the maid of honor? 397 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 6: The maid of honor? 398 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: And I'm going Selena Gomez. 399 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 6: I gotta admit, in our years of knowing each other, 400 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 6: I think this is the first time I've ever said 401 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 6: this on this show. I'm not equipped to answer that question. 402 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 6: I like Taylor Swift, I respect Taylor Swift. I know 403 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 6: very little about Taylor Swift, so I can't. I'm not 404 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 6: now who will be? We know who the best man's 405 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 6: going to be. That'll be Jason h one hundred percent 406 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 6: of the time. And there is something just delightful to 407 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 6: the fact that Jason Kelsey and Taylor Swift god willing 408 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 6: are going to be spending dozens of holidays to get 409 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 6: moving forward, Like there is something charming about the idea 410 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 6: that there will be a Christmas Night sometime in the 411 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 6: future where Jason Kelsey, likely wearing overalls with nothing underneath 412 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 6: it an egg nog dripping from his beard, tries to 413 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 6: give Taylor Swift a giant bear hug. I just like that. 414 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 6: That feels very American and awesome to me. 415 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: They'll be crushing beers together. 416 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right. Can I ask you your 417 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 6: take on someone else's theory because I think you'll like 418 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 6: it since you brought this up Kevin Wilde's National Treasure 419 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 6: coas the first things first when they first got together, 420 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 6: he said, this just confirms my long held belief that 421 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 6: all of life is high school. I'm like, what do 422 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 6: you mean? And he's like, if your tailor swift. In 423 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 6: high school, the only thing you you were the band girl, 424 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 6: You the only like you didn't get the prom queen 425 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 6: football player boyfriend, Like that's the one. You've accomplished everything 426 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 6: imaginable in life, but there is this one void, like 427 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 6: you didn't get to have that type of high school experience. 428 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 6: And what initially drew her to Travis was I get 429 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 6: to have it now I'm dating the star football player, 430 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 6: I'm going to the games. And that was their initial connection. 431 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 6: And I thought it was a brilliant take, And I 432 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: want your opinion on that take. That's not mine. But 433 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 6: now that I've said it on this platform, people be like, 434 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 6: you know what I heard, Nick? Right from those Kevin Lotlestey. 435 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: You'll get credit exactly right. 436 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 6: I gave him credit. Nobody could say I stole it, 437 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: but the people will forget. I think it's the right take. 438 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 6: Yeah time, I'm glad I came up with it. 439 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: I love love, I said from the beginning, and UH 440 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: have a bet with Fritzi. I thought that they were 441 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: going to get engaged. I thought that they were going 442 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: to get married. When people said, why do the why 443 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: do they keep showing her on camera? I go blame 444 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: the next It works, But if you have the like 445 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense that you have the biggest 446 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: pop star in the world and you wouldn't show her 447 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: on camera. Of course we show Robert Kraft ten times 448 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: every Sunday or Jerry Jones is there so right? 449 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 6: Or Jack Nicholson for our entire lives growing up like 450 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 6: this is the there are the threshold to get cutaways 451 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 6: during sporting events of what celebrity you need to be 452 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 6: is certainly below world's most famous woman like there. 453 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 8: I don't know what it is, but it is the 454 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 8: kid ump. 455 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 6: It cracks it, so I think Taylor Swift does. 456 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: But remember when Fox would invite like Party of five 457 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: is here at Yankee stadium down the right field line, 458 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: and I go, oh, they how did that happen? 459 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 6: All right, this feels you know, this feels like a 460 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 6: shot because I don't know if you watched last year's 461 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 6: World Series, but in the party of five seats was 462 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 6: Nick Wright and First Things First? Yeah, show yeah. And 463 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 6: now some will say, wow, how times of shames. I 464 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 6: would say, we're right on track. Boys, I do remember. 465 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: That we're talking to Nick Wright, host of First Things 466 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: First on Fox Sports one. How did the Chiefs not 467 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: make the Super Bowl? 468 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 6: Oh? 469 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 4: God, act of god. 470 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: You know, there's obviously one thing that could wreck their 471 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 6: season entirely, but I'm not gonna say that out loud. 472 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna even speak that into the universe. 473 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: Uh. 474 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 6: But uh, they're the best team in the league. They're 475 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 6: certainly the best team in the AFC. And Dan I 476 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 6: realized to tell a sports media tell you're gonna love this. 477 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 6: I know you're gonna love this because it's been very 478 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 6: trendy this offseason. This is not a straw man. This 479 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: isn't Nick looking, you know, scouring the internet for Chiefs dout. 480 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 6: It's been there in large supply, and that the Ravens 481 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 6: got better they're clearly the best roster. The Bills, you know, 482 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 6: we have ascended and the Chiefs, you know, is the 483 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 6: window not closed but closing? And oh my, has anyone 484 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 6: seen how bo Nicks plays against backups? Holy only the 485 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: AFC West is in jeopardy. That has been that take 486 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 6: has been everywhere all off season. And then Micah Parsons 487 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 6: maybe comes available, and all those same people with that, 488 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: the Chiefs are vulnerable. The Chiefs aren't the best. You 489 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 6: know what their take on Micah is man Buffalo or 490 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 6: Baltimore needs to make the phone call. It's like hold 491 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 6: on a second, No, you know what. No one has said. 492 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: If the Chiefs want a chance to get back to 493 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 6: the super Bowl, they need to trade for Micah Parsons. 494 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: Everyone is saying simultaneously, B block of the show, Ravens 495 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 6: and Bills are the class of the AFC. A block 496 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: of the next day show. The Ravens and Bills need 497 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 6: to trade for MICHAEH. Parsons to get over the hump. 498 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 6: What's the hump? America? Who are we talking about here? 499 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 6: Finish the thought so the Chiefs will be fine. Jeff Simmons, 500 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 6: uh had Josh Simmons pardon me hopefully has fixed a 501 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 6: left tackle position. I don't know if you saw it yesterday, 502 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 6: but every single receiver from the twenty twenty two Kansas 503 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 6: City Chiefs, when Mahomes one MVP set the all time 504 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: record for total yards in the season one Super Bowl 505 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 6: MVP is no longer in the NFL. And the Chiefs 506 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 6: won with that team, they'll be able to win with 507 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 6: this team. 508 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: I hate rankings. And I know it's good. 509 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: I know it's good conversation, good phil, But you know, 510 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: I go back to when ESPN said Michael Jordan's the 511 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: greatest college basketball player of all time. 512 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 6: Well that was that was the worst. That's the worst ranking. 513 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 6: That's and I'm not I'm not trying to get a 514 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 6: shot at Jordan there. I know people yes, no, yeah, 515 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 6: that's just that is that is an untenable opinion. That's like, 516 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 6: but go ahead. 517 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: So but the point is that we keep ranking these 518 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 2: quarterbacks and you know, is Jalen Hurts the top five? 519 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 4: Is he a top ten all? 520 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: Mahomes doesn't have the stats, he shouldn't be in the time, 521 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: and I think if you ranked playoff quarterbacks, that to 522 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: me has more value. Now we won't do that, but 523 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: I would put the guys who have actually done this, 524 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: the guys who have produced when your team needs you 525 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: and you're going to a championship or a super Bowl. 526 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: Here it feels like we have two different rankings regular 527 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: season and then we would have postseason, because I don't 528 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: care where Jalen Hurts is ranked. 529 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 4: I just know on that team he's tremendous and he wins. 530 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, so yes, that is true. I also do think 531 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 6: I am interested in the impossible but always fun attempt 532 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 6: to separate player from team in a team sport concept. 533 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: And I know some people find it annoying if you're 534 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 6: like if you put Jalen Hurts on another team and 535 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 6: it's like, well, he's not on another team. But I 536 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 6: do find it somewhat instructive and at least a fund 537 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 6: mental exercise. So I in that context, I understand that Berkley, 538 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 6: are you the tractor or the trailer piece of this, 539 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 6: which is really what a lot of this is. It 540 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 6: goes back to a lot of my Brock Purdy skepticism, 541 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 6: you know, from a couple of years ago, which has 542 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 6: been proven correct in every single step of the way. 543 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 6: I think Jalen, I like you value playing your best 544 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 6: in the biggest spots, and he has played tremendously in 545 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 6: both Super Bowls. He is clearly very tough and he 546 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 6: does not blink in the big moment. With that said, 547 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 6: I am not that is enough to me to elevate him. 548 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 6: Would I rather have in a playoff game Jalen Hurts 549 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 6: or Lamar? I'd rather have Jalen Hurts in a playoff game? 550 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 6: It would I rather have Jalen Hurts or Josh Allen. 551 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 6: I'd rather have Josh Allen. Now, I know Josh hasn't 552 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 6: been to a Super Bowl, but he has played so 553 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 6: well in the postseason that you can't be like Ah. 554 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 6: The moment gets to him and so that to me though. Now, ideally, 555 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 6: in a perfect world, you would have a quarterback with 556 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 6: the greatest stats in the regular season and the postseason, 557 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 6: but unfortunately everyone can't be Chiefs fans. 558 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: If not the Eagles in the NFC, then who All right, right. 559 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 6: Now, I'm not picking the Eagles in the NFC. I 560 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 6: will answer this question. Will you ask your social media 561 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 6: people not to put it out because you are your 562 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 6: front running first things first prediction week? Look, is that 563 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 6: a deal? Because we make our big picks on Friday. 564 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Paul, would you tell the backroom guys that we 565 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: can't put this out of If you can't. 566 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: Put this out and I'm not going to ask you 567 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 6: on YouTube to bleep it, but this could be a 568 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 6: live audience exclusive. 569 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: Okay, got the. 570 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 6: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Oh my goodness, oh my, that's I 571 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 6: know it's gonna be hard. Now your guys in the 572 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 6: back room are gonna be like, that is gonna that 573 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 6: is a viral, but viral bonanza. This guy nobody's had. 574 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 6: But I'm telling you, listen, we can talk the schedule, 575 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 6: the offense, fake show, A lot of stuff, A lot 576 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 6: of stuff to like the fact that if you don't 577 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 6: have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. Last twenty five years, 578 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 6: you win the Super Bowl. Half the team's more than 579 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 6: half the teams don't even win a playoff game the 580 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 6: next year. Only one team, Russell Wilson Seahawks, have gotten 581 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 6: back to the Super Bowl. No team is going back 582 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 6: to back NFC East in twenty years since Andy Reid 583 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 6: did it four straight times with Eagles. A lot of 584 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 6: things there a lot to like about the box. 585 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 4: All right, you watched the Cowboys documentary. 586 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 6: I've been gambling in Monaco. Dan, Sorry, I have not 587 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 6: watched it. 588 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: You just got to Netflix in Monica. 589 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 6: Hey, honey, I'm a about to retire to six straight 590 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 6: months of football at all times. We're in the south 591 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: of France. You go have fun. I'm gonna watch Jerry 592 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 6: Jones and Emma. Have you watched the Chiefs documentary? Kevin 593 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 6: Wilde's wife produced that, And the answer to that is 594 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 6: also no. Okay, not watched the Chiefs documentary. I'm not 595 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 6: an equal opportunity. It's fair and also too painful. Too painful. 596 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 6: I know how the story ends, you know, one of 597 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 6: the worst moments of my life. 598 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: Did you cry? 599 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 6: No? I didn't cry, but I'm didn't too much. I 600 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 6: was gonna get too far. I have to self censor. 601 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 6: Did I hurt myself? Make did I cry? You harmed 602 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 6: yourself again? That's why I said self at it. I 603 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 6: see you grabbing the paper, which means our interview is 604 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 6: almost over. But so I have to do some real 605 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 6: quick because you and I are I owe you a dinner. 606 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: Yes we have. 607 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 6: We've been missing each other. You know where we should 608 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 6: do it. Hold on, let me hold this up to 609 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 6: the camera. It's a bit of a trip for you. You 610 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 6: see then you see what that says? 611 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: Fifteen eighty seven Prime? 612 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, did you get your invite to the opening? Who's 613 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 6: number fifteen Patrick? 614 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 615 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 6: Come on New Steakhouse in kids. Any money, we could 616 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 6: go to the opening together. You can be my plus one? 617 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 6: How about that? What if I get to say? How's 618 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 6: why is Dan Patrick here? He's Nick writes plus one? 619 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: What a dream? What a dream? And that's what it'll be? 620 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: Just a dream? 621 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: Okay? 622 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 6: Just what? 623 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: But nice? Thank you for the invitation. 624 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 6: You want to go the US Open? I'm going tonight? No, okay, fine? 625 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 6: Is it bad for him? I'm wearing my Wimbledon shirt 626 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 6: to the US Opening. Sorry, I know you're trying to go. 627 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 4: I like it. It's fine. Wear what you want to wear. 628 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 6: Okay, thanks buddy. 629 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're always dressed up on your show. Well, yeah, 630 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: we wear suits. You guys wear quarter zips. Well it's 631 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: a radio show that's on TV. Oh really, you're a 632 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: TV show on TV. 633 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 6: You guys aren't on TV anymore. 634 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we are a radio show. Oh you know, 635 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: just for the job you want, that's what it is. 636 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: Well, when you get dressed up and you hand out 637 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: the super Bowl trophy. 638 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: Then you left. 639 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: The hundred million people watching what I wore? 640 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: A million people watch? 641 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred million people four times four four times? 642 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: Had it out super Bowl? 643 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? And then you did the Olympics. 644 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: That's four hundred million, and then the Olympics thone in there. 645 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: I don't need to be dressing up. 646 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 6: What do you wear to the Emmys to not go 647 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 6: on stage? 648 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: To not win? Same thing you wear? O nothing? Thank you, Nick, 649 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 650 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 651 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 652 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 653 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: listen live. 654 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel four season as the Dolphins head coach and 655 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: of course a star wide receiver with the Yale Bulldogs. 656 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: Official height and weight coach. 657 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: Five nine and undisclosed because. 658 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: At Yale you were five nine one seventy five. But 659 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: that feels like that might have been inflated a little bit. 660 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 3: You know, it was actually closer to my true weight 661 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 3: at that time. I was inflated. My body wasn't really 662 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: built for that weight, but I was taking a lot 663 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: of supplements at the time. 664 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: Okay, legal supplements of course, of course above brow of course. 665 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: Were you Julian Edelman before Julian Edelman? 666 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: Yes, end statement. Yeah. Now I was limited to an 667 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 3: inside receiver route tree because of lack of linear speed 668 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: and as quicker than fast as they'd say, And I 669 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: did a lot of coaching while playing. 670 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: If you know what I mean, how about forty yard 671 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: Danish if you race Tyreek Hill? 672 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he would get me, he would. I had to 673 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: think about it. 674 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: Okay, is there anybody closer to him speed wise? 675 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I think there's a lot of guys that 676 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 3: are that are that are fast, particularly on our team, 677 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: But I think what makes his speed unique is the acceleration. 678 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 3: You know, it's he gets top speed very quick. He's 679 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 3: almost speed on the third step of a route when 680 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: he's motioning. So the quickness and speed is hard to 681 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: it's hard to match. But there's several guys on the 682 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 3: team that will with absolute certainty say that they're faster 683 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: than him, even though they don't have a time as 684 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: fast as his. 685 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: But if you're calling plays knowing that he's so quick 686 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: at like, does it change if you're calling something, let's 687 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: say it's third and seven, you just want to get 688 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: him the ball because of that acceleration, not he has 689 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: to go out seven or eight yards. 690 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: No, you know, quite literally. One of the positives of 691 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: being in the same offensive system for my entire career. 692 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: You know, I came in two thousand and five learning 693 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: Mike Shanahan's and have stayed with it is realistically, the 694 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: what the offense is is a product of people's skill sets. 695 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: So we do a lot of timeing motion and because 696 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 3: we can utilize Tyreek and Waddell and et cetera at 697 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: that that their unique skill sets. So pretty much. Uh, 698 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: you know, all all players skill sets for us now 699 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: in the system are it was kind of adapted to 700 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 3: them and try to use their their best skills most frequently. 701 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 4: When did that change? 702 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: It felt like when quarterbacks were drafted, certainly in my era, 703 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 2: that you had to adapt to that coach and his philosophy. 704 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 4: Where it feels. 705 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: Like Cam Newton when he came in, it felt like 706 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: Carolina says, hey, we're going to cater to your needs. 707 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember since you were there 708 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 2: with Shanahan and five, Uh, did you see something a 709 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: seismic shift where you're kind of adapting your audience or 710 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: your your offense to that quarterback you're taking. 711 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, uh, you just hit on something super 712 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 3: interesting because the whole the whole tree underneath. Kyle Shanahan 713 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 3: learned that in twenty twelve when we had a rookie 714 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 3: RG three at quarterback and we're gonna jump into the 715 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: game of zone read, and uh, realistically, we completely adapted. 716 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: You know, I was an offensive assistant, you know, Matt 717 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: Lafleur was the quarterback coach. Sean McVay was the Titans coach, 718 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. 719 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: You know. 720 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: Raheem Morris was the defense or secondary coach. Bobby Sloak 721 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: was outside linebackers coach. All these people first hand where 722 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 3: we had our offense from what we ran in Houston 723 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 3: and extension Denver and then retooled it in Washington, and 724 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 3: then for for me personally and and Kyle, we went 725 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: we got fired and then went to Cleveland and had 726 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: a job and didn't want to get fired, so we 727 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: tried to adapt to those players. And then we did 728 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 3: the same thing when we went to Atlanta. So it 729 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 3: was it's really in the course of the journey. Early on, 730 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 3: we we had the opportunity to you know, directly, you know, 731 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 3: evolve the offense to cater to players' needs. And you know, 732 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 3: I've kind of seen everything through that lens. 733 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Since most talented quarterback you've ever been around? Talented what 734 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 2: the quarterback quarterbacking? 735 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 3: You know, I would I would say, uh, you know, 736 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 3: Matt Ryan was up there, but I think two was 737 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 3: probably the most talented quarterback. The most talented, uh speed 738 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 3: threat was probably Robert Griffin the third you know, so 739 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: he was fast and before the defense schematically caught up 740 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: to us. You know, he do his Rookie of the 741 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: Year for a reason. Matt Ryan played the game in 742 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 3: a unique way that really changed a lot of stuff 743 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: that we do in the dropback game based upon how 744 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 3: how good he was. And then there was one of 745 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 3: the best quarterbacks at play action pass that's super underrated 746 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 3: was Matt shab He was. He was really good at 747 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: utilizing Andrew Johnson's speed and being able to avoid sacks 748 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 3: while getting explosives. 749 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: Talking to Mike McDaniel, four season is the Dolphins head coach. 750 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: You start out, you got Indy at Indy, then host 751 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 2: New England at Buffalo, and then host New York. 752 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 4: How much pressure do you feel? 753 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: No. I always think that's funny because I think I 754 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 3: would have to be deluged and all to not you know, 755 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 3: expect you know, I think you take a job like 756 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 3: this and you're working in the NFL, and for me, 757 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 3: I'm preparing to have this job, and then I take 758 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: the job, and I'm very much aware of the black 759 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: and white reality of you know, wins and losses and 760 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 3: and how things, how you're able to you know, sustain 761 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 3: the job and keep the job and evolve. The program 762 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 3: is all based on, you know, the nuts and bolts 763 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 3: of winning and losing games. So I think everything that 764 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: I do to prepare has always been to kind of 765 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 3: be my best self in moments of pressure. And yeah, 766 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: I mean I know it exists, but I don't feel 767 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 3: it because it's kind of you know, ingrained or attached 768 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: to what I understand this job to be. 769 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: How much do you take home with you? 770 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: You know, the gift of you know, my one and 771 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 3: only daughter has has really helped, uh, you know, create 772 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: some boundaries for myself. You know, I carry stuff through 773 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: the through the car ride home, but when I get home, 774 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 3: especially when you have a short compressed time to to 775 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 3: be something that's, you know, pillar of importance in who 776 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: you are as a person, which is being a father. 777 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 3: For me, I get to I get the gift of 778 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: being able to get home, see her face, engage her, 779 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 3: and try to leave it at work, because you have 780 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 3: to be balanced in life to have your edge at 781 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 3: your performance really for whatever you're doing. So uh, you know, 782 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 3: I think earlier in my career I struggled to do that, 783 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: but my daughter's really helped me out with that one. 784 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: When you were growing up and you were getting those 785 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: autographs when you go to the Broncos camp, do you 786 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: still have those autographs? 787 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 3: I do in a trunk somewhere. 788 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 4: What are some of your favorite autographs that you got 789 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 4: when you were a kid. 790 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 3: I had. I had one sleeve of cards like in 791 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 3: the plastic, but it was a sleeve and a binder 792 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 3: that kept all the autographs, and it was probably the 793 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 3: John Oa page. I had about seven of them because 794 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: I was a relentless obsessed daily visitor at Denver Brocks 795 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 3: training camp. So those were probably my favorite. Or you know, 796 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: the the Robert del Pino one that led to uh 797 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 3: to me meeting my stepdad. That was probably the two 798 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 3: best ones that that got me uh connected with Mike 799 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 3: Shanahan in the first place. 800 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so explain that because it wasn't it an assistant coach, right, 801 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 2: explain how your mom met her your stepdad? 802 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's the normal nuclear family trajectory of 803 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: a child introducing uh mother and stepfather. 804 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 4: Of course happens all the time. 805 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was getting an autograph. Uh. Well, I would 806 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 3: go to Denver Bronco training camp and uh and get 807 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 3: autographs daily. I had a Charlotte Hornet's fitted loud purple 808 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: and teal hat and uh it was noticeable. So I 809 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 3: got Robert Delpino's autograph earlier in the day. I wanted 810 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 3: to get another one. As an only child, I guess 811 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,479 Speaker 3: I just wanted more. So I put the hat down, 812 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: got the autograph, came back, the hat was gone. I 813 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 3: was about nine at the time. So I was crying 814 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 3: and a member of the Broncos was uh interested in 815 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: while I was freaking out. I told him about the hat. 816 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 3: He took down the measurements. A couple of days later, 817 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: he saw me again at training camp because I was 818 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 3: automatic at Lawrence Hall at the time, and he uh 819 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 3: he gave me a hat with a price tag on it. 820 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 3: He went out to the Greeley mall and bought me 821 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 3: a hat, and so then I thought he was worthy 822 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: of meeting my mother. So I introduced them and they 823 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 3: got married and moved to Denver and was as a result, 824 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 3: he was an assistant video guy for for the Broncos 825 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 3: and I got to at age fourteen. I was a 826 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 3: ball boy through high school and you know, really got 827 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL door, you know, being able to be 828 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 3: around the guys and stuff from you know, before I 829 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 3: could drive. 830 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of love, your reaction to Travis Kelsey and 831 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift getting engaged was what. 832 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 3: Oh you just told me? I didn't know, that's my reaction. 833 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 4: How do you not know? 834 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 3: Well, you, uh, you keep yourself from anything that's multimedia, 835 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 3: and then, uh, you make yourself a terrible conversation when 836 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 3: people bring up pop culture and you do that over time, 837 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 3: and then you don't know anything that you uh, you know, 838 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm pumped to hear about it now, I guess, you know, 839 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 3: I think there's layers to to my reaction. You know, 840 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 3: you know, I'm hoping it's a loved love based relationship 841 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: and you know, and good for them. You know, finally, 842 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 3: finally they're not I mean finally they're doing it the 843 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 3: old fashioned way, you know, where people shouldn't really enter 844 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 3: into any escapades unless they're married. You know. 845 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 2: So, now, if one of your guys gets engaged, do 846 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: you expect to be invited to the wedding? 847 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 3: Now, I'm the boss, like, so, I appreciate if I am, 848 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 3: But my expectation is that nobody wants to hang out 849 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 3: with me ever that I'm the boss. 850 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 4: Of Are you a buzzkill? 851 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 3: No, it's just the nature of boss, you know. The 852 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 3: nature of boss is like, all right, this isn't work. 853 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 3: Why do I feel like it's work? Oh, because there's 854 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: the guy that may or may not be judging me, 855 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: you know. So I don't get my feelings hurt. I 856 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 3: don't have high expectations for that, just understanding the role 857 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 3: and responsibility. 858 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with you. Thanks for joining us, 859 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 2: good luck starting the season. 860 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. 861 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: That's Mike McDaniel. Four season is the Dolphins head coach. 862 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 2: They were eight to nine last year and they open 863 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 2: up at Indy, host New England, at Buffalo and hosts 864 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 2: New York