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Speaker 1: Real America's Voice is live this Monday, two am Eastern,

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Speaker 1: History takes flight. Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel, leading

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Speaker 1: a high stakes mission for peace and the long awaited

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Speaker 1: release of hostages after months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough,

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Speaker 1: a ceasefire, hostage releases, and the first steps towards a

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Speaker 1: lasting Jerusalem Accord. Steve Bannon leads Real America's Voice live coverage,

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Speaker 1: joined by powerful voices from Jerusalem as the world watches

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Speaker 1: this historic moment unfold, from conflict to compromise, from division

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Speaker 1: is history and motion. This is Real America's Voice. Rad

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Speaker 1: presents Trump's triumphant mission to Israel. Live coverage begins this

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Speaker 1: Monday at two am Eastern, only on Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: This is the primless screen of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 2: for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.

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Speaker 2: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying

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Speaker 2: about the people. The people have pett a belly full

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Speaker 2: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I

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Speaker 2: know you're trying to do everything in the world to

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Speaker 2: stop that.

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Speaker 3: But you're not going to stop that.

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Speaker 2: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 4: big line?

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Speaker 5: Mega media?

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Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 2: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my

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Speaker 2: task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to.

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Speaker 6: Save my country, this country will be saved.

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Speaker 5: Here's your host, Stephen Caveman.

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Speaker 2: It's Sunday, twelve October, in the year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. This is the curtain razor on this

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Speaker 2: history endeavor. President Trump's going to take in heading to

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Speaker 2: Jerusalem and Israel tonight overnight and then time in Israel

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Speaker 2: like a broader peace conference. One thing for the audience,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do an hour now, or at least an

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Speaker 2: six we'll hand it over to Gruber in the morning show.

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Speaker 2: The folks at the Morning show to take us through

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Speaker 2: to then War Room at ten. The part of overnight

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Speaker 2: will be in Israel at the Kanesse meeting Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: at net Yahoo and also the hostages released. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: celebration in Hostage Square, which happens to be in Tel Aviv.

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Speaker 2: But it's been NonStop all since this deal was announced.

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Speaker 2: It looks like everything is going according to the deal.

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Speaker 2: I've got Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen with some polling and analysis.

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Speaker 2: Joe Gilbert, the Great Filmmaker joins me, who's kind of

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Speaker 2: an expert in the in the region, and Matt Ferrazi

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Speaker 2: he's going to join us later in this hour from Jerusalem.

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Speaker 2: But I want to start off by going to Benny

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Speaker 2: ray Harmony, who's at the White House. Benny Kite, I

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Speaker 2: but things are going. The White House will figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us just put us in the room there.

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Speaker 2: What's happening today.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Steve, but like you said, this is a historic

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Speaker 7: Well, Steve, I was really surprised. There's a lot of

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Speaker 7: Actually have even stopped and said how are you doing today?

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Speaker 7: And even with my press badge on, this is real

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Speaker 2: Feeling that, Yeah, this is what happens when we have

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Speaker 4: Well, what I'm seeing is this is the typical euphoria

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Speaker 4: in all these scenarios I've described, the results for Israel

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Speaker 4: The peace with Egypt has just turned into an armacist

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Speaker 2: Hang on, but hang on a second, I think goes

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Speaker 2: But what is this? But there's a fundamental issue here,

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Speaker 4: That's correct in the Western world, in the Christian world especially,

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong here? Because I've been vilified by many

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Speaker 2: But I think I got a very rational look at this,

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Speaker 2: Is it your belief, coming to an independent assessment that

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Speaker 2: which have always just been the local franchisees. For Cutter

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there has been a quasi two state solution with

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Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think the best thing that

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Speaker 9: the people slinging mud aren't using logic. It's a lot

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Speaker 9: of ad hominem. It's a lot of like trying to

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Speaker 9: undermine people's trust. It's a lot of the stuff that

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Speaker 9: it looked like the left cancel culture was doing back then,

436
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Speaker 9: which is like, you know, put carve people away from

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Speaker 9: the herd, ostracize them, and then try and turn everybody

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Speaker 9: against them. And Tucker was one of the most trusted

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Speaker 9: voices on the right. He actually out pulled Fox News

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Speaker 9: back when Fox News fired him, And now everybody's trying

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Speaker 9: to convince the world that without evidence he's funded by Katar.

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Speaker 9: These things are going to rip the right apart. And so,

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Speaker 9: like I would again, I'm not taking sides here, I'm

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Speaker 9: just saying that the public opinion has collapsed massively and

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Speaker 9: it's gotten to the point where if Israel thinks that

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Speaker 9: we're going to step in and defend them in a war.

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Speaker 9: According to Americans, the answer is no. So we asked,

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Speaker 9: would you support or approve, sorry approve or disapprove of

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Speaker 9: the United States going to war to defend Ukraine against Russia,

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Speaker 9: Taiwan against China, and Israel against the Palestinians, And the

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Speaker 9: war to defend Israel is the least popular war out

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Speaker 9: of those three. It's only supported by thirty eight percent

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Speaker 9: of Americans, only nineteen percent strongly, but fifty two percent

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Speaker 9: of pose, So it's underwater like fourteen points there, and

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Speaker 9: only fifty one percent of Republicans approve of that. Like

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Speaker 9: half of Republicans would only half of Republicans want boots

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Speaker 9: on the ground to defend Israel. Only thirty percent strongly

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Speaker 9: approve and way more people you know, and obviously this

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Speaker 9: is the most popular Republican war, but it does. It

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Speaker 9: barely gets to half. And the Democrats want no part

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Speaker 9: of this. Only fourteen percent strongly approved, thirty percent least somewhat.

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Speaker 9: And again, like across the board in this case, with

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Speaker 9: the age signals, nobody wants this. So if it goes

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Speaker 9: on much longer, I think that they're gonna maybe get

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Speaker 9: themselves to a place that they really just can't walk

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Speaker 9: back from. And obviously the approval rating of net and

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Speaker 9: Yahoo's completely collapsed as well, down into the low forties

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Speaker 9: from a majority approval. I mean, that's really high after

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Speaker 9: the October seventh for Net Yahoo to have a positive

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Speaker 9: favorability and like, I think it was close to twenty

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Speaker 9: there and you know, now it's basically a wash. And

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Speaker 9: he like he was approved of more than Trump was

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Speaker 9: at the time. So I don't know. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 9: Hopefully this deal comes through, but it's got to end.

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Speaker 9: And the way this is tearing the right apart, there

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Speaker 9: probably should be some leadership where people the top come in,

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Speaker 9: step in and give guidance about how we should parse

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Speaker 9: these things because a lot of uncomfortable questions are being

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Speaker 9: asked about Apak, a lot of uncomfortable questions are being

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Speaker 9: asked about Qatar and the all of the wealthy families

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Speaker 9: as well, and we kind of influence thereby.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hang on one second. This is a real America

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Speaker 2: Voice War Rooms special. On a Sunday afternoon. We're at

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Speaker 2: the White House to watch President Trump depart to Andrew's

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Speaker 2: Air Force Base to then fly overnight to Israel to

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Speaker 2: address the Kanesse and the Israeli people, also to greet

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Speaker 2: the hostages and to meet with Premise Benjamin Mityahu before

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Speaker 2: he goes to Egypt for a broader peace conference in Egypt.

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Speaker 2: Short commercial break and return to the war room. At

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Speaker 2: just a moment the war room.

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Speaker 5: Here's your hoops. Stephen came back.

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Speaker 2: They've called an audible at the White House, and they're

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Speaker 2: going to go with a motikate instead of Marine one,

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Speaker 2: it looks like. And our own Benny Ray harmony is

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Speaker 2: getting organized right now. If they're going to do a

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Speaker 2: press gaggle, we hope that the President doesn't gaggling. Does

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Speaker 2: a gaggle mean when he comes out anywhere and you've

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of press there and President Trump just

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Speaker 2: has a little impromptu press conference and he does He's

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Speaker 2: better than anybody. I'm sure he have lots of updates

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Speaker 2: everything going on. Particularly one of the things people want

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Speaker 2: to know about is not simply this historic peace conference

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Speaker 2: that he's going over for in peace steal and the

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Speaker 2: hostages and all that, but the Chinese Communist Party essentially

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Speaker 2: declared outright economic war on the United States on Friday,

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Speaker 2: or Thursday night. They've cut out. They've cut out all shipments,

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Speaker 2: I think starting November one, all shipments of really rare

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Speaker 2: earth in the industrial strength to earth, the magnets, all

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Speaker 2: of it. They've also sent a letter that President Trump

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Speaker 2: was able to get to other nations that they want

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Speaker 2: to put export controls from those countries to the United States.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is up in your face. The crypto

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Speaker 2: market collapsed on Friday, I think at four hundred billion

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Speaker 2: dollars drop in the crypto market. Also, the stock market

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Speaker 2: was off I think nine hundred points. Now. Tomorrow is

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Speaker 2: Columbus Day. That may give everybody a time to think through.

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Speaker 2: The President put out a true social while ago saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: she probably had a bad day, and he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to destroy the Chinese accommodate economy, and you know we

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Speaker 2: don't want to destroy it either, and we're just here

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Speaker 2: to help. And I put up comments that to just

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Speaker 2: give the president my two cents for what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: They're at economic war with us. They've been at economic

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Speaker 2: war with us for a long time, sincely since twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: where they declared it with President Trump after two years

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Speaker 2: of tough negotiations to get a deal that brought them

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Speaker 2: into really the world economy. They tore it up and

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Speaker 2: bit in his face. Of course, COVID happened immediately thereafter.

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Speaker 2: I know there's no there's no correlation because that's conspiracy

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Speaker 2: theory obviously. But so this Chinese situation is something I

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Speaker 2: know the midnight oil in the White House is burning,

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Speaker 2: and my understanding there may be a response, kind of

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Speaker 2: a muscular response on those topics this week from the

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Speaker 2: White House as the President. I'm sure that's going to

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Speaker 2: be a topic of conversation when he meets through these

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Speaker 2: twenty five nations in Egypt, after his visit to Israel

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Speaker 2: and after his address to the Kanesseant Mark Mitchell, I

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Speaker 2: want to bring Joe Gilbert back in anybody. I just

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Speaker 2: have a question. We talk about that shift. We hear

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Speaker 2: a lot how much of this is related to the

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Speaker 2: fact that TikTok that and there's all these you know,

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Speaker 2: assertions right by Israel and Israel intelligence, the mosadd that

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Speaker 2: that both the Persians and the Muslim Brotherhood and backers

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Speaker 2: from MOSS essentially took over TikTok for this very critical

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Speaker 2: six month period right after October seventh or I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: say immediately after, but when when Israel and IDF started

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Speaker 2: to go into I think it was after the six months.

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Speaker 2: So really go in and try to set this sort

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Speaker 2: this thing out. And at TikTok, you heard you had

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Speaker 2: all these videos up and a lot of what they

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Speaker 2: say was manufactured. Number one, how big an impact do

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Speaker 2: you think TikTok had overall and is that manifested anyway

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Speaker 2: in your numbers?

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Speaker 9: We did pull on TikTok, not that recently, but it

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Speaker 9: is astounding how many young people are aware of it

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Speaker 9: and use the platform. Eighty four percent said they're at

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Speaker 9: least somewhat aware of it. Sixty I think it was

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Speaker 9: over sixty percent who said very aware. I think it's

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Speaker 9: this trifecta of TikTok, Reddit and also Instagram, And from

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Speaker 9: a TikTok an Instagram perspective, I think, you know, algorithm

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Speaker 9: is often pull and so if you find something you like,

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Speaker 9: you click on it, it's going to feed you more of that.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's like somewhat personalized. People are obviously

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Speaker 9: getting news that way, but I don't know, like overall,

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Speaker 9: if that's what because in my opinion, we talked about this.

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Speaker 9: I think Reddit is by far the most corrupt one.

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Speaker 9: It's the one where there there are no right wing

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Speaker 9: views period whatsoever, anywhere on the platform. It's the fifth

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Speaker 9: biggest website, and everybody goes there because it's got all

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Speaker 9: these subreddits that are for special interests like bulletin boards

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Speaker 9: used to be. And among the eighteen to twenty nine, sorry,

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Speaker 9: eighteen to thirty nine year olds, sixty four percent said

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Speaker 9: they use Reddit at least occasionally, and three quarters of

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Speaker 9: them say it's a good somewhat agree or more that

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Speaker 9: it's a good source of news. And so the problem

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Speaker 9: that we have is that basically mainstream media news is dying.

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Speaker 9: It's legacy. Nobody really listens to them. They've lost their trust,

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Speaker 9: but they've also lost the format. And also we completely

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Speaker 9: destroyed education. These people aren't being taught Western values, they're

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Speaker 9: not being taught critical thinking. Their teachers have been replaced

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Speaker 9: by activists. And so something's going to fill that hole

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Speaker 9: in the Internet fills that whole, and you you can't

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Speaker 9: like there's it's a complete frontier for people to take advantage, manipulate,

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Speaker 9: use bots. And I think Twitter is probably like the

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Speaker 9: least boded place and you go and look at it,

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Speaker 9: and most of the discourse is logic based, and you

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Speaker 9: know they'll get the right answer eventually. But that's the

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Speaker 9: thing is that, like Twitter is really prominent now and

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Speaker 9: it's where I think the narrative battlefield is being played out,

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Speaker 9: but you still have these really entrenched, like liberal echo

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Speaker 9: chambers that are radicalizing people. This is where people are

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Speaker 9: learning that Charlie Kirk's a fascist. This is where the

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Speaker 9: religion of Christianity is being redefined in order to accept

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Speaker 9: the LGBTQ movement. This is I think largely where these

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Speaker 9: people are being groomed. And obviously TikTok and Instagram are

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Speaker 9: some of it, and I think they kind of work

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Speaker 9: as like basically an ecosystem that enforces the liberal like

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Speaker 9: monoculture basically, but I think they're probably less susceptible and

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Speaker 9: corruptible than Reddit. And obviously these people are getting it

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Speaker 9: from their parents, they are getting it from academia is

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Speaker 9: well and the windows closing. Israel has lost this generation,

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Speaker 9: the eighteen to twenty nine year olds are not going

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Speaker 9: to support Israel at all. And as we talked about

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Speaker 9: before on your show, they also have completely given up

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Speaker 9: on capitalism, and they don't even care about conservative values,

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Speaker 9: which is completely one of one hundred and eighty percent

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Speaker 9: opposed to what the right thinks. They think that just

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Speaker 9: because they did better in this age group, as far

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Speaker 9: as like the Trump vote, that all of a sudden

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Speaker 9: we're going to have this like golden age of conservative

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Speaker 9: resurgence among the younger Americans. It's not going to happen.

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Speaker 9: We are screaming towards economic populism, and if the right

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Speaker 9: doesn't fix it, then the left's going to fix it,

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Speaker 9: and we're not going to like how.

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Speaker 2: Well. Of course, if you're an economic populism, maybe think

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Speaker 2: all is not lost. But that's a conversation for a

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Speaker 2: different day. So, Joe Gilbert, Joe, you and I've had

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Speaker 2: this conversation many times that now, you know, at least

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Speaker 2: since ninety three or definitely since two thousand and one,

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Speaker 2: it seems to me that we have been inundated sometimes

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Speaker 2: with scholars and people talking books on Islam, people talking

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Speaker 2: about Islam. But you've made the point to me for

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Speaker 2: a long time that you think we have a very

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Speaker 2: very little understanding of this, and you're saying this is

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Speaker 2: manifested in this situation right now in Israel and particularly

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Speaker 2: the Peace Conference of Marrow. I might add the Peace

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Speaker 2: Conference of Mars twenty five nations. It's being hosted by Cutter, Turkey, Egypt,

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Speaker 2: and the United States of America. And as a footnote,

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Speaker 2: the Israelis were not invited. Okay, Also Hamas and the

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Speaker 2: Palestinia Thori were not invited. Also, it's kind of like, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's that's old news. None of those groups are in

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Speaker 2: power anymore. We're in power. Here's the redevelopment plan. What

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Speaker 2: is your thinking first off about? This has kind of

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Speaker 2: been a history of some of the Israelis always joyous

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Speaker 2: on any type of like mention of peace or mention

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Speaker 2: of hostage exchange or mention of land for peace, whereas others,

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Speaker 2: and I think the more hard headed in realist, and

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Speaker 2: that is the folks that basically won the forty eight war,

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Speaker 2: won the sixty seven war, and won the seventy three

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Speaker 2: war may not be so excited about the developments over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days, and particularly ain't going to

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Speaker 2: be excited about what's going to go down to Egypt tomorrow, sir.

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Speaker 4: Okay, A couple of things here. There is a huge

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Speaker 4: lack of scholarship in the Western world, United States, Europe

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Speaker 4: and even Israel in understanding the Islamic world, their values,

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Speaker 4: their culture, and their goals that are very different from

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Speaker 4: Western values. I actually studied the University of London with

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Speaker 4: some of the great scholars of the Tikiotis and Kalidar

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Speaker 4: who were Arabic speaking Greeks or Jews that understood the

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Speaker 4: Islamic world, and we largely don't have those type of

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Speaker 4: scholars in the Western world. On the other hand, the

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Speaker 4: Islamic world understands Western culture quite well. Jahisin, the head

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Speaker 4: of Hamas, was ten years in an Israeli prison and

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Speaker 4: he understood that in Israel they were very concerned about

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Speaker 4: even one person the life of war. One person was critical,

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Speaker 4: and that led to the strategy of Hamas to abduct

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Speaker 4: and kidnap and get two hundred and fifty hostages. So

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Speaker 4: the poll numbers that your correspondent just cited are the

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Speaker 4: result of Hamas's strategy to dribble out the hostages slowly.

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Speaker 9: It's both Israel's.

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Speaker 4: Strength and its biggest weakness that it doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: give up on even one person. Palestinians, on the other hand,

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Speaker 4: they all have about ten children as the average family

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Speaker 4: size in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Hang On, Yeah, they're more than happy if a couple

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Speaker 2: of them hongo a second. Hang on, but hang on.

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Speaker 2: The generation that fought the sixty seven and seventy three

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Speaker 2: war would not have been like that. They would have said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's horrible the hostages were taken. It's a huge failure,

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Speaker 2: just like when they were overwhelmed during the Ampkport War.

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Speaker 2: But to save the nation, Uh, you're going to have

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Speaker 2: to do what you're going to have to do, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy for a second that the leadership in

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Speaker 2: sixty seven or seventy three would have spent a lot

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Speaker 2: of time on the hostages. They would that felt terrible

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Speaker 2: about it. So it was a huge failure. But there's

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Speaker 2: going to have to be sacrifice if we're to save

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Speaker 2: the nation, and so dribbling out and playing into Hamasa's

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Speaker 2: strategy like a lot of the Israelis did. Do you

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Speaker 2: think that that generation would have bought into that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they would have bought into it. Even

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Speaker 4: Netanyahu didn't really buy into it, but he was pressured

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Speaker 4: into it constantly by these hostage families and by the

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Speaker 4: protests outside his house where they kind of pressured him

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Speaker 4: into this part of Israeli society that demands that every

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Speaker 4: individual be saved in Gaza and the Islamic value world.

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Speaker 4: They have an average of ten children per family in Gaza.

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Speaker 4: It's all paid for by unrun the United States taxpayers,

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Speaker 4: and they understand that they're going to lose one or

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Speaker 4: two of them, and they're actually quite okay with it

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Speaker 4: because they're Shahideen, they're martyrs. So there's such a difference

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Speaker 4: in cultural values, and Hamas was able to take advantage

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Speaker 4: of it and create the situation to make a two

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Speaker 4: year war and erode Israel's position internationally. That was part

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Speaker 4: of the strategy that has been success. So what we're

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Speaker 4: seeing play out now is a continuation of the lack

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Speaker 4: of understanding. War is in the end, a failure of

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Speaker 4: diplomacy and a failure of understanding. And my concern is

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Speaker 4: these celebrations are premature, just like they celebrated in that

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Speaker 4: same square when they gave Yasser arafat Gaza and they

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Speaker 4: said it's peace, it's all going to break out, and

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Speaker 4: within two weeks metaphorically, you know, Hamas took over and

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Speaker 4: you know, the rest is history. So every single piece

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Speaker 4: deal Israel has signed has failed because they do not

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Speaker 4: understand that the Islamic world does not accept Israel of

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Speaker 4: any size or circumstance, and everything they negotiate is just

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Speaker 4: something that the Islamic world believes is on the path

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Speaker 4: to minimizing Israel and making it indefensible.

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Speaker 2: Hang for a second, how do you say in back

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Speaker 2: up that we've spent seven trillion dollars in a Raq,

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Speaker 2: We spent two treeon dollars in Afghanistan. We fought those

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Speaker 2: war wars to uncertain conclusions and or defeat. Over twenty years,

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Speaker 2: the entire book publishing industry, we had books and books

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Speaker 2: and books. Israel surrounded by the Arab world. How can

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Speaker 2: Israel the United States, the West, now that you see

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Speaker 2: the massive migration of Europe, how can they have failed

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Speaker 2: to actually have the scholarship and the knowledge of which

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Speaker 2: is obviously an enemy. Sir.

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Speaker 4: It's a fundamental misunderstanding that you assume everybody thinks like

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Speaker 4: you do, and it's an unwillingness to realize that maybe

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Speaker 4: there's a different culture and a different religion that doesn't

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Speaker 4: have the same values. Let's take the issue of nationalism

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Speaker 4: nation states that grew on Western Europe starting in the

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Speaker 4: seventeenth eighteenth century. Nationalism, making your loyalty to a nation

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Speaker 4: state was a Christian solution to Christian problems. It resolved

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Speaker 4: the Civil War between Protestants and Catholics. They came up

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Speaker 4: with this idea of nation states. After World War One,

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Speaker 4: the West tried to impose the idea of nationalism onto

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Speaker 4: the Islamic world and it never worked because in Islam,

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Speaker 4: nationalism can and loyalty can only be toward God, toward

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Speaker 4: the Quran, and toward Allah. So you can never be

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Speaker 4: loyal to a nation state. So it's the fundamental misunderstanding

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Speaker 4: of thinking that different cultures think differently and have different

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Speaker 4: goals and values than our culture. That's the fundamental problem.

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Speaker 2: Heyre for a second. We got Joe Gilbert, the filmmaker,

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Speaker 2: a scholar of particularly of Islam in the West. We

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Speaker 2: have the great Mark Mitchell from Rasmusson who brings the numbers,

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Speaker 2: he brings the receipts. Matt Farrazi is going to join

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Speaker 2: us from Jerusalem with an eyewitness account of what's going on.

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Speaker 2: And of course we have Benny Ray Harmony at the

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Speaker 2: White House. As we continue to wait for the President

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Speaker 2: to depart from Andrews Air Force Bace back in a moment.

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Speaker 5: Here's your host, Stephen came back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have a couple of updates. We're actually gonna

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Speaker 2: go through at least for a little while the four

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour, because the President will not have left Andrews

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Speaker 2: Air Force Base by then, maybe shortly thereafter. Let's say

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Speaker 2: he's gonna leave from the South Lawn. There's not gonna

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Speaker 2: be a press gaggle, so I don't think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get an opportunity to hear from the President beforehand. I

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Speaker 2: think the press is actually loaded up and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: stay closest. We've got Benny Ray Harmony at the White House.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna stay on top of this as the President leaves.

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Speaker 2: I think we've got a shot of Air Force one

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Speaker 2: at Andrews on the tarmac, and maybe we can show

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Speaker 2: that and then we can go back to Hostage Square.

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Speaker 2: I'll bring you my next guest, Matt Faraci. Matt, you're

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Speaker 2: from right outside of Jerusalem. Put us in the room there.

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Speaker 2: Tell us it looks like all we're all we're seeing

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Speaker 2: al we're seeing NonStop on CNN and MSNBC and Fox

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Speaker 2: something that I don't think we'd ever seen before. In

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Speaker 2: Tel Aviv and Hostage Square. They're channing Trump Nobel Prize.

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Speaker 2: Trump is great, Trump is a hero, Isn't that? Isn't

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Speaker 2: that part of Tel Aviv? I thought that was equivalent

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Speaker 2: to a deep blue state here in the United States

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Speaker 2: of America.

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Speaker 8: Sir it, Steve Listen, you read the room correctly, So

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Speaker 8: maybe that's why you read the war room correctly, if

769
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Speaker 8: I could use the pun. But yes, it is very surprising.

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Speaker 8: This is the Israeli left. A lot of people in

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Speaker 8: the Israeli left, frankly, go out and protest and demonstrate

772
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Speaker 8: almost for a living, and so for people to be

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Speaker 8: going out and praising the president, I think it's obviously

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Speaker 8: it's a great thing. The National Post. Journalists with the

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Speaker 8: National Post described Israel today as a I want to

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Speaker 8: get this quote right, A country vibrating with conflicting emotions.

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Speaker 8: I think you alluded to that earlier, Steve, quite brilliantly,

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Speaker 8: where you said that that sixty seven general kind of

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Speaker 8: the hardcore generation has one viewpoint on the hostages, and

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Speaker 8: the left in Israel has another viewpoint. The point is

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Speaker 8: though that everybody obviously wants them to come home. The

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Speaker 8: conflict is over the cost of that return.

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Speaker 2: When you say the cost of that walk through how

784
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Speaker 2: the people in Israel or think about I know how

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Speaker 2: the United States, and quite frankly, I don't believe. And

786
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Speaker 2: part of this is the Fox News issue, but I

787
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Speaker 2: don't think many people outside the people watch the war

788
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Speaker 2: Room and some others understand that, Hey, this trip is bifurcated.

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Speaker 2: It's to Israel first, the kanesse the hostage meeting with

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Dan Yahoo. But there's actually something quite historic

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Speaker 2: going to going in Egypt. Twenty five nations really cutter,

792
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Speaker 2: UAE and Saudi are the bank, The Turks look like

793
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Speaker 2: the security, the Iranians, the Persians are showing up. You

794
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Speaker 2: mean I say that. I said it in the Daily

795
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Speaker 2: Telegraph this more in an article the President Trump has

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Speaker 2: united the Arabs more than te Lawrence. So for people

797
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Speaker 2: in Israel, how are they starting to think through the

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Speaker 2: entire this entire transaction.

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Speaker 8: So just for there's a couple of things. Steve and

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Speaker 8: I was looking at a post from a great Israeli

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Speaker 8: conservative journalist called a meet Segal who's really got his

802
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Speaker 8: finger on the pulse. So part of the conflict. First

803
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Speaker 8: of all, Steve is Israel's had to release almost two

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Speaker 8: thousand prisoners. These prisoners are bad people. One of the

805
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Speaker 8: people that he just wrote about on Twitter killed like

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Speaker 8: sixty something people in a bus bombing. Another person murdered

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Speaker 8: a mother of six in front of her children, a stabbing,

808
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Speaker 8: murdered in front of her children. So there's a huge

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Speaker 8: amount of very bad people being released. Uh, And obviously

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Speaker 8: this causes a lot of conflict with the public because

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Speaker 8: where are these people going to go and are they

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Speaker 8: going to change their nature now that they're out of prison.

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Speaker 8: I don't think so. People know that you've probably also

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Speaker 8: followed Steve. There's a lot of fighting right now in Gaza.

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Speaker 8: Hamas has essentially taken their uniforms off. They're out in

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Speaker 8: the streets and they're shooting people. There's about twelve some

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Speaker 8: estimates range twelve to fifteen clans different clans inside Gaza

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Speaker 8: and Hamas. You know, obviously, this new Israel has pulled

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Speaker 8: out of parts of Gaza, and this new security force

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Speaker 8: that the president is spearheading has not yet taken control,

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Speaker 8: and so there's a shuffle to kind of establish authority.

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Speaker 8: There's similar clashes taking place in Juday and Samaria aka

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Speaker 8: the West Bank. People weighs it waiving Hamas flags in

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Speaker 8: Juday and Samaria where Hamas is wildly popular, and also

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Speaker 8: again armed clashes taking place there. So that's the issue

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Speaker 8: is On one hand, Steve, there is a joy and

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Speaker 8: overwhelming joy at the as Mike Kakabie was talking about

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Speaker 8: earlier at the release of the hostages. Also fear about

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Speaker 8: what's going to happen to these if I may be

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Speaker 8: so inelegant scumbags that are being released out into the

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Speaker 8: population again, and then how is it all this going

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Speaker 8: to go? But the point is Steve, that President Trump

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Speaker 8: is trying something new, and he knows that you can't

834
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Speaker 8: go back to the same old, same old, and some

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Speaker 8: thing's gotta change, something's got to give. If you're going

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Speaker 8: to have peace, you've got to try something different. And

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of the Israeli public is giving

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Speaker 8: the president signs all over I was in Jerusalem last night,

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Speaker 8: signs all over the place, thank you, mister president. People

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Speaker 8: are giving the president credit for trying to change the

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Speaker 8: dynamic and do something new.

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Speaker 2: Matt hang On. Matt's in Jerusalem. We have Joel Gilbert,

843
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Speaker 2: the filmmaker with us. The Great Mark Mitchell, Benny Ray

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Speaker 2: Harmony is at the White House. Leave the presidents leaving

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Speaker 2: momentarily heading to Andrew's Air Force Base to get on

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Speaker 2: Air Force one, the small contingent of his advisors to

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Speaker 2: hurdle overnight to Jerusalem, where he would land early tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: We will cover all of that live at two a m.

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Speaker 2: Monday morning or tonight to him Eastern daylight time until

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Speaker 2: basically six or so. We'll cover the Israeli the Israel

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Speaker 2: part of President Trump's visit live, including his address at

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Speaker 2: the Kanesse and the Steve Grubin people will pick up

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Speaker 2: at about six or seven, and then we'll come back

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Speaker 2: for the War Room, probably for some of the important

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Speaker 2: events that it take place in Egypt, a world historical event.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, we're talking about giving the Ukrainians Tomahawks,

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Speaker 2: and the Chinese Communist Party has declared economic war on

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Speaker 2: the United States of America. There are decades in which

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Speaker 2: nothing happens, and there are weeks in which decades happened.

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Speaker 2: Folks were starting one of those weeks here in the

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Speaker 2: War Room. Real America's Voice back in the month.

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Speaker 1: The night when the world is sleepy. Real America's Voice

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Speaker 1: is live this Monday, two am Eastern, History takes flight.

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Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump arrives in Israel, leading a high stakes

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Speaker 1: mission for peace and the long awaited release of hostages

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Speaker 1: after months of war and heartbreak, a breakthrough, a ceasefire,

867
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Speaker 1: hostage releases, and the first steps towards a lasting Jerusalem Accord.

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Speaker 1: Steve Bennon leads Real America's Voice live coverage, joined by

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Speaker 1: powerful voices from Jerusalem as the world watches this historic

870
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Speaker 1: moment unfold, from conflict to compromise, from division to deliverance.

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Speaker 1: This is leadership on the world stage. This is history

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Speaker 1: and motion. This is Real America's Voice. Rad presents Trump's

873
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Speaker 1: triumphant mission to Israel. Live coverage begins this Monday at

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Speaker 1: two am Eastern, only on Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: This is the primless screen of a dying regime. Pray

876
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Speaker 2: for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.

877
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Speaker 2: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying

878
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Speaker 2: about the people, the people have had a.

879
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Speaker 1: Belly full of it.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've

881
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Speaker 2: tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

882
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Speaker 2: but you're not going to stop that. It's going to happen.

883
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Speaker 2: And where do people like that go to share the

884
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Speaker 2: big line?

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Speaker 5: Mega media?

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Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

887
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Speaker 2: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my

888
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Speaker 2: task and what is my purpose?

889
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Speaker 6: If that answer is to save my country, this country.

890
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Speaker 5: Will be saved. Here's your host, Stephen k Back.

891
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Speaker 2: This is kind of bonus coverage. To the bonus coverage,

892
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Speaker 2: we were going to do an hour this afternoon to

893
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Speaker 2: kind of tear everything up with Benny Harmony at the

894
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Speaker 2: White House. We've got Mark Mitchell, the great Polster, with

895
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Speaker 2: some quite frankly shocking analysis of polling or where people stand

896
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Speaker 2: on this. Joe Gilbert, the great filmmaker joins us as

897
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Speaker 2: a scholar and someone's focused on this for decades and

898
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Speaker 2: decades and decades. And Matt Faraci, one of our dear

899
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Speaker 2: friends that is in Jerusalem. I want to just walk through,

900
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Speaker 2: so subject to leaving here, Shirley, we're gonna stick around

901
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Speaker 2: till Air Force one goes wheels up. Right, We're going

902
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Speaker 2: to do this from start to finish, So basically at

903
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Speaker 2: two twenty. We're gonna start coverage at two o'clock in

904
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Speaker 2: the morning, Eastern daylight time in the war room here

905
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Speaker 2: at Real America's Voice for our special coverage of this

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Speaker 2: at they're saying right now at about three forty five,

907
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Speaker 2: so after President Trump arrives and freshens up and he

908
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Speaker 2: will meet with the hostage, some of the hostage families.

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Speaker 2: And I was telling people, I think that that would

910
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Speaker 2: be logical. Right, It's now that's going to happen. It

911
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Speaker 2: looks like in Jerusalem. Oh no, President rives tel Aviv,

912
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Speaker 2: okay Tel Aviv. Perfect arrive Tel Aviv, meet with the

913
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Speaker 2: hostage of families, and then the President is going to

914
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Speaker 2: at four o'clock in the morning three forty five, meet

915
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Speaker 2: the hostages, four o'clock in the morning address the Kannesset,

916
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Speaker 2: and then at six o'clock he's going to head back

917
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Speaker 2: to the airport, and then at six thirty or six

918
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Speaker 2: forty five he's going to head to Egypt to the

919
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Speaker 2: resort on the Red Sea where this this conference, this

920
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Speaker 2: Middle East Conference is going to take place. And the

921
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Speaker 2: coverage will be continuous on the morning shows, but they're

922
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Speaker 2: going to also juxtapose showing some of the highlight reel

923
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Speaker 2: for President Trump with the hostages with Prime Minister Netnya

924
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Speaker 2: and obviously with the Kannesse to give a formal address

925
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Speaker 2: to do. Then also is going to Egypt, so historic

926
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Speaker 2: day tomorrow might add to the president. I guess is

927
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Speaker 2: going to return. Looks like either return tomorrow night or yes,

928
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Speaker 2: president departs so at ten a m. Or there'd be

929
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Speaker 2: at ten am. The President's going to then return to Washington.

930
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Speaker 2: So he's going to be in Egypt for a couple hours.

931
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Speaker 2: He'll be in Israel for four hours, a couple hours

932
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Speaker 2: in Egypt to address this and then leave coming back

933
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Speaker 2: to do Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk is being awarded the

934
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Speaker 2: Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is the highest civilian award

935
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Speaker 2: that one can that one can get. So he's gonna

936
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Speaker 2: be awarded that about I think four o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: afternoon on Tuesday, Charlie Kirk's thirty second birthday, the fourteenth

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Speaker 2: of October. And of course we're going to cover all

939
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Speaker 2: that life. But I will tell you it stuns me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Trump's a beast who could do

941
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Speaker 2: this what twenty five year old can do? Is going

942
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Speaker 2: to because remember when he goes over, it's it's the

943
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Speaker 2: it's the it's the tension and the pressure of meeting

944
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Speaker 2: the hostage families of what they've gone through and the hostages.

945
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Speaker 2: It's then giving an addressed that Knesset, which is going

946
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Speaker 2: to be on global television, right, everybody's going to be

947
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Speaker 2: hang on every word. Is then going to Egypt and

948
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Speaker 2: address these twenty five nations as they kick this off,

949
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Speaker 2: this you know, development conference. They're going to have everything.

950
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Speaker 2: The President goes he is on the main stage and

951
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Speaker 2: it's just extraordinary. It's absolute extraordinary. The energy and also

952
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Speaker 2: not just the energy, but the presence. You know people

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Speaker 2: now is the term people use, be present. Okay, when

954
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Speaker 2: President Trump is there, he's the center of the action,

955
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: and he understands that. He's self aware to understand that,

956
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Speaker 2: but it's extraordinary. He's taken essentially a red eye, and

957
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Speaker 2: this is a long red eye over to Israel. He

958
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Speaker 2: doesn't go to the hotel and sleeps till noon like

959
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Speaker 2: many of you have taken the red eye before to

960
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Speaker 2: the to London or taken the red eye from la

961
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Speaker 2: to New York. He you know, maybe go rest a while,

962
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Speaker 2: wake up, shower, have breakfast and by noon or one

963
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Speaker 2: o'clock you're right to roll. So you've saved at least

964
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Speaker 2: half a day. President's getting right off the plane and

965
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Speaker 2: he's in action. It's just absolutely extraordinary. That's why we

966
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Speaker 2: want to do the coverage live. It's a historic event,

967
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Speaker 2: one that'll be talked about decades from now. I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure we're giving you the coverage only Real

969
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Speaker 2: America's Voice and the War Room can give you. To

970
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Speaker 2: get all the top experts and get everybody. Everybody in Matt. So, Matt,

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Speaker 2: give me an update, Like, the President comes tomorrow, what

972
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Speaker 2: are the besides the dramatic hostages, Maybe he's at a hospital,

973
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Speaker 2: the hostage, seeing the hostage, meeting the hostages, the photo op.

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Speaker 2: What are the Israelis anticipating from the commander in chief

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Speaker 2: tomorrow on his four or five hour visit to the

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Speaker 2: Holy Land.

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Speaker 8: I think they're anticipating, Steve, if I made the President

978
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Speaker 8: to do what he does, to do it bigly, and

979
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Speaker 8: the can assid is very excited. You know, he's only

980
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Speaker 8: the fourth president of the United States to speak to

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Speaker 8: the Canessea. That was first Carter Clinton spoke and all

982
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Speaker 8: so George W. Bush spoke before the Knesset, so it's

983
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Speaker 8: a rare invite. It's a big moment. And as you said, Steve,

984
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Speaker 8: it's it's the it's the Trump Middle East gamble that

985
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Speaker 8: he's doing here, which is can you it's I think

986
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 8: it's the fundamental question that people are talking about. Can

987
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 8: you win over the moderate Arabs who are interested in

988
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 8: you know, let's let's say the Dubai model, who are

989
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 8: interested in business and finance and economic prosperity, or are

990
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Speaker 8: you going to have the conflicts like you're having in

991
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Speaker 8: southern Syria right now, where people are drews and Christians

992
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 8: and others are getting slaughtered, and even though you're trying

993
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Speaker 8: to deal with Damascus, there's there's uh, there's ideology. I

994
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Speaker 8: believe you call them, Steve, Sirias Sharia supremacists. My correct

995
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Speaker 8: is that your term?

996
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely absolutely, yeah.

997
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, So that's that's that's the conflict. But I think again,

998
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Speaker 8: people are excited that the president is rolling the dice

999
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 8: here and doing something very big, Go big or go home,

1000
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Speaker 8: And everybody's very exciting. Again, Trump is crazy popular in Israel.

1001
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Speaker 8: I mean, I haven't looked at I've looked at some

1002
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Speaker 8: poles in the past. But if you just even if

1003
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Speaker 8: you walk around the streets Steve and you stop, for example,

1004
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Speaker 8: the average young person, He's insanely popular in Israel. People

1005
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Speaker 8: just people just love him and they trust him. And

1006
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Speaker 8: so it's it's definitely a highly highly anticipated moment. Even

1007
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Speaker 8: with members of the Kanessa the very there's gonna be

1008
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Speaker 8: religious leaders representing different faiths in Israel. Also at the Kanesset,

1009
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Speaker 8: everybody's waiting with baited breath to see what he says.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the people in Tel Aviv I want

1011
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 2: to make sure that given the fact that President Trump

1012
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: is leaving, he's put a huge amount of prestige in

1013
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: his time in his heart, because you know, when he

1014
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Speaker 2: talks about it, like about Ukraine, he always starts with

1015
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: the cashalis. In fact, he had told me a while

1016
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Speaker 2: ago what the real casuals were. I was blown away.

1017
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Speaker 2: But then he came public with the one point eight

1018
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: million just the Ukrainians dead and wounded, which is you

1019
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: had a million Russians. You're at World War two type

1020
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: levels in the Bloodlins. President Trump is a man with

1021
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: a big heart. People think he's not. He's got a

1022
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: big heart. The conflict and the brutality of the raid

1023
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Speaker 2: and the slaughter on seven October moved him, and then

1024
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: he saw the videos of it really moved him. But

1025
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Speaker 2: then the CounterPunch and what happened in the interim period

1026
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Speaker 2: also moved him. Many of the people now in that

1027
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Speaker 2: in that and I want to make sure I'm fair

1028
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: about this, but many of the people in in the

1029
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Speaker 2: in the square now in Tel Aviv, particular Tel Aviv

1030
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Speaker 2: is obviously more progressive and liberal part of Israel. Many

1031
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Speaker 2: of those people have not been Trump fans, and in

1032
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Speaker 2: fact they've become Trump fans basically since President Trump stepped

1033
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: in here and had now brought both sides together to

1034
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Speaker 2: have this piece. But hasn't that crowd because they've been

1035
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: the big protesters from the beginning, aren't they actually part

1036
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: of the piece? At any price? That has to a

1037
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Speaker 2: large extent gotten Israel. And obviously I'm very anti the

1038
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: Greater Israel project, but you've also had a problem, as

1039
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Speaker 2: Joe Gilbert pointed out, over time and history, of a certain

1040
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Speaker 2: amount of the Israelis that have just you know, because

1041
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Speaker 2: they want acceptance, they want you know, short term peace

1042
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Speaker 2: or whatever, are always open to kind of these Arab

1043
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: demands and they never they never come to peace. You

1044
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: just come back for more war. And if you look

1045
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Speaker 2: at it, it's always escalated war. So are those folks

1046
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Speaker 2: in the thing that are you know, channing Trump and

1047
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: it's been amazing Trump for the Nobel Prize. You know,

1048
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: they would elect Trump Prime minister today if they could.

1049
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: Is that just because they're peace at any price and

1050
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: they see this as a deal that gets the hostages

1051
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: back and basically as a ceasefire.

1052
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Steve, if you think about if you think about

1053
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Speaker 8: Israel and you think about Tel Aviv as New York,

1054
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Speaker 8: and you think of Jerusalem maybe more like Dallas, or

1055
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Speaker 8: we could go to a state and say, like Florida,

1056
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Speaker 8: there's sort of two big pole you know, the two

1057
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Speaker 8: big cities are you know it Jerusalem much more conservative,

1058
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 8: much more religious, tel Aviv much more secular, much more left.

1059
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Speaker 8: I think to a degree what you're saying is true.

1060
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Speaker 8: There is a piece at any price crowd and the

1061
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Speaker 8: conservatives in the country are concerned that Israel has been

1062
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Speaker 8: held hostage by the hostages. Meaning if you concede this

1063
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Speaker 8: point like Israel has now, what's to just you're now

1064
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Speaker 8: encouraging Like you said, Steve, the next bad guys to

1065
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Speaker 8: just do it again, take more hostages, because if you

1066
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Speaker 8: can hold the country hostage with hostages, why not repeat

1067
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Speaker 8: the behavior. That being said, there is a momentary optimism

1068
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Speaker 8: here where everybody's hoping that this is going to and

1069
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Speaker 8: the president trying something different and getting the support of

1070
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Speaker 8: these Arab countries to try something different. On the optimism side,

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Speaker 8: you see a lot of people saying that when I

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Speaker 8: talk privately to people in the army and other sources

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Speaker 8: like that, they're concerned that. First of all, they're happy

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Speaker 8: that Israel's getting a breather, and to your point, Steve,

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Speaker 8: their concern is is this just a chance for Hamas

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Speaker 8: to move around, to regroup, to re arm, to go

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Speaker 8: somewhere else, to try something else, and then we're back

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Speaker 8: in the same situation again. That's the concern that you're

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Speaker 8: seeing in the debate in the public.

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Speaker 2: Hang one second, I am gonna go to commercial burker

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Speaker 2: go and take commercial breaks. I got Joel Gilbert and

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Speaker 2: we'll go back to Joel into Mark. They've been nice

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Speaker 2: enough to stay with us, and they is some important

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Speaker 2: information from them I want to extract. But I want

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Speaker 2: to go to the IDF, you just mention it, and

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Speaker 2: my sources and the folks I know there the IDF,

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Speaker 2: as tough as it is and legendary, it is first

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Speaker 2: to admit. And I think this new chief of staff

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Speaker 2: that they've been pretty beaten up in this fight. Right.

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Speaker 2: They weren't looking when a couple of four weeks ago

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Speaker 2: Metna who was talking about going into Gaza and getting

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Speaker 2: all two million people out, There was a little pushback. Right,

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Speaker 2: give me a minute on the IDF, the historic role

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Speaker 2: they pay. But they they're a little bit punched out

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, Steve, the IDF, if you're a student

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Speaker 8: of history, the IDF is built for quick precision type

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Speaker 8: of wars. It's not built for Vietnam. It's not built

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Speaker 8: to get bogged down in sort of endless urban warfare.

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Speaker 8: And I've got friends, Steve, who are in their forties,

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Speaker 8: some even in their fifties, wh who have been in

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Speaker 8: the reserves for many, many months. Some people have been

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Speaker 8: in the reserves for years. Hundreds of thousands of reservists

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Speaker 8: got called up after October seventh, so people are exhausted.

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Speaker 8: And again among people on the right, the criticism is

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Speaker 8: that they wish this thing, and this whole thing had

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Speaker 8: been done much quicker, just fast, fast, fast, go in,

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Speaker 8: go in, go in. And you know, we can talk

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Speaker 8: about the reasons why, including the Biden administration dragging it out,

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Speaker 8: but they're tired. You're definitely reading that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have to go through hell, where we

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Speaker 2: say on the show in the very first days after

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Speaker 2: October seventh, if you have to go through hell, go

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Speaker 2: through as quickly as possible. We're going to take a

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Speaker 2: short commercial break. Air Force one is on the tarmac

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Speaker 2: at Andrews Air Force Base. It is prepped and fueled,

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Speaker 2: ready to go to Israel and take the Commander in

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Speaker 2: chief of the United States Armed Forces and the President

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Speaker 2: of the United States and his entourage also then to

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Speaker 2: Egypt to a peace conference, momentarily be leaving the White House,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna stick around until we go wheels up

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Speaker 2: at Andrews. I'm gonna take a short commercial break. Joe

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Speaker 2: Gilbert the filmmaker, and Mark Mitchell are kind enough to

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Speaker 2: join us on a Sunday afternoon, a little bit impromptu too.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be back at two a m. Eastern

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Speaker 2: daylight time to follow the President when he lands back

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Speaker 2: in a moment.

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Speaker 5: Stephen k back.

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Speaker 2: Baracchi, and you know, Matt works with us all the

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Speaker 2: time when we do the projects over at Angel Studios,

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Speaker 2: right the Great Films. He was very close to Caviso

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Speaker 2: when we did the Covisol movie and is a guy

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Speaker 2: we've worked very closely with. He said, there is really

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Speaker 2: people understand what the president is doing here. It's a

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Speaker 2: roll of the dice. I would actually argue it's called

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Speaker 2: in the old day's roll of the iron dice. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna get to Mark Mitchell a second for an answer

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Speaker 2: to that, but I gotta go to Joe Gilbert Joel.

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Speaker 2: Matt Faraci just used a term, if the president can

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Speaker 2: get the moderate Arabs, the moderate Muslims have come along now.

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Speaker 2: I have in the Daily Telegraph and a couple other

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Speaker 2: places today talking about Jared and wid call from particularly

1143
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Speaker 2: Jared and say, look, you've got to look the reason

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Speaker 2: this is different than others that this if you look

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Speaker 2: on a continuum, when we first went to the Middle

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Speaker 2: East to Rihad Jerusalem in Rome in seventeen in the

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Speaker 2: first six months of the president's you know, presidency term,

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Speaker 2: and we depict that order on purpose to go see

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Speaker 2: the Muslim world first, then to go to Jerusalem and

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Speaker 2: then to go to Rome, the two you know, bedrocks

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Speaker 2: of the Judeo Christian West, and it was this kind

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Speaker 2: of search for Muslims who the Arab world, particularly the

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Speaker 2: Golf Emirates, to put business first. You look at what

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Speaker 2: came out of that, the Abraham Accords, which is Jarrett

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Speaker 2: was kind of the architect of that. That's really a

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Speaker 2: business deal. This is one of the reasons it hasn't

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Speaker 2: gotten a lot of play because the political reporters don't

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Speaker 2: know what to deal with that. Jared looks at the

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Speaker 2: world as is people that he deals with in places

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Speaker 2: like places like Cutter and UAE and Saudi. They look

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Speaker 2: at that area of the world as markets and logistics,

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Speaker 2: trains and commercial flights, commercial relationships, capital markets, trade deals, tariffs.

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Speaker 2: President just said the other day was tariffs that he

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Speaker 2: was able to browbeat some of these folks into doing this.

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Speaker 2: So they look at this is a bi business arrangement,

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Speaker 2: like what's going to happen in Gaza. They look at

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Speaker 2: a massive redevelopment to turn it into Tel Aviv's arguably

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Speaker 2: the Miami Beach of the Mediterranean. To take that beautiful

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Speaker 2: waterfront in Gaza, turn it into Miami Beach. Put hundreds

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Speaker 2: of billions of dollars in the redevelopment. You already have

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Speaker 2: two million Palestinians there, have a Turkish security guarantee. But

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Speaker 2: it's really a business deal and that this is why

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Speaker 2: it's working, and this is how Trump thinks because he's

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Speaker 2: a businessman. But it's all based upon Muslims. Are the

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Speaker 2: Arab world that would put commercial interest ahead of cultural

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Speaker 2: or religious interest? Does that really exist for anything? Is

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Speaker 2: it just ephemeral or does it really exist in the

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Speaker 2: Arab world and particularly in the Gulf Emirates.

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Speaker 4: Well, this theory has been tried by the Jews before

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Speaker 4: this State of Israel is founded, and the State of

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Speaker 4: Israel for over one hundred years. They thought they could

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Speaker 4: buy off the Palestinian Arabs by providing hospital, schools and jobs.

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Speaker 4: And every time they tried this idea it failed. Even

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Speaker 4: when they gave the Palestinian authority. They built a casino

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Speaker 4: of all things in Jericho, and Shimon Peis would talk about, Oh,

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Speaker 4: they're just going to make so much money, They're going

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Speaker 4: to be happy and give up their religious and nationalistic

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Speaker 4: goals and values. And this idea has always ultimately failed.

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Speaker 4: It's a mistake for Western leaders to think I'm looking

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Speaker 4: for a liberal, conservative or moderate Muslim. These are Western

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Speaker 4: concepts and Western ideas that don't fit in the Islamic world.

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Speaker 4: In the Islamic world, you have only one political movement,

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Speaker 4: only one. It's the movement of Islamism. It's existed for

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Speaker 4: over one hundred years and it seeks to return to

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Speaker 4: the core Islamic values of society and government. When Islam

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Speaker 4: had its glory days, Western civilization had the opposite experience.

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Speaker 4: Western civilizations started to decline because of the conflict in

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Speaker 4: religion between Protestants and Catholics. Came up with the Reformation

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Speaker 4: and the concept of nationalism, which led to the Reformation

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Speaker 4: and the Europe going into modernity and the Western culture

1201
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Speaker 4: spread throughout the world. In Islam, Islam was most successful

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Speaker 4: when religion dominated governments. It only went into decline when

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Speaker 4: Islam was overwhelmed by Western countries. So the movement of

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Speaker 4: Islamism wants to put Islamic government back in place. Whenever

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Speaker 4: you have a free election in Gaza, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon,

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Speaker 4: Islamist parties always win and it's a lack of understanding,

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Speaker 4: looking for these economic deals that they think are going

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Speaker 4: to solve the problems, thinking that they have the same,

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Speaker 4: very same goals and values as we have in the West.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of things are going to be playing out.

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Speaker 4: These golf leaders are very strange people. You got to

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Speaker 4: be suspicious of what they're up to. Qatar, for example,

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Speaker 4: most people don't know that in Qatar only ten percent

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Speaker 4: of the population are Qataris. It's ninety percent Patriot workers.

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Speaker 4: So the Katari royal family is always playing all sides.

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Speaker 4: They buy off everybody, They give the United States a base,

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Speaker 4: they pay off Hamas, they pay off the Muslim Brotherhood

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Speaker 4: because they're so insecure and so paranoid. So these Gulf

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Speaker 4: Arabs are just these family conglomerates that are hated by

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Speaker 4: the Islamists, and they want to get rid of them.

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Speaker 4: Ohsa bin Laden wanted to get rid of the Saudi

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Speaker 4: royal family. So when they cut deals with these golf

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Speaker 4: characters and the Egyptians, you're not going to get what

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Speaker 4: you're looking for. And I think we have very tough

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Speaker 4: times ahead.

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Speaker 2: This is this is this we're talking about. Were you

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Speaker 2: talk about we want to open up the Kennedy files,

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Speaker 2: and we want to open up the UFO files, and

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Speaker 2: we want to have, you know, open up the nine

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Speaker 2: to eleven files. On the nine to eleven official Report,

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Speaker 2: there's twenty two pages that are just blank. That twenty

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Speaker 2: two pages that are blank are about the Saudi royal

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Speaker 2: family and exactly what you're Gelbrit's talking about. Also, Joel

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Speaker 2: mentions the Thirty Year War. The Thirty Year War was

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Speaker 2: so brutal, so catastrophic between the Catholics and Protestants and

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Speaker 2: between Protestants and themselves that you know, people at that

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Speaker 2: time said, hey, we got to figure out something because

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Speaker 2: the religious wars between the Catholics and the Protestants and

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Speaker 2: the Protestants among themselves are going to destroy, going to

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Speaker 2: destroy Europe. Mark Mitchell. With all that being said, with

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Speaker 2: the euphoria in Israel, the president hurtling, there is obviously

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Speaker 2: his prestige on the line, not just the prestige, but

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Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious to think to everybody that the president seems,

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Speaker 2: it appears to me to be not tired every day,

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Speaker 2: but you know, dealing with the Chinese Communist Party, major

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Speaker 2: economic war, dealing with Ukraine. They want Tomahawk missiles to

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Speaker 2: attack into into into deep into Russia, dealing with the

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Speaker 2: insurrection here in the country, and what he's having to

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Speaker 2: do to fight the courts everything. These are not small problems.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, you could we could curate the news

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Speaker 2: the top twenty five stories would dominate the news cycle

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Speaker 2: for a year, and yet Trump's juggling balls on this

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Speaker 2: stuff every day. Matt Faraci said, the Israeli people are

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Speaker 2: with President Trump on a roll of the dice. Do

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Speaker 2: you think, given particularly your comment that our school has

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Speaker 2: been taken over by essentially activists and so young people

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Speaker 2: kind of don't really have a deep grounding in the

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Speaker 2: Judeo Christian West and really our values, do you think

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Speaker 2: this roll of the dice is actually maybe a bigger

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Speaker 2: gamble than everybody thinks Right now.

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Speaker 9: Well, hopefully it clears the table of this issue, because

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Speaker 9: I think Trump immediately needs to get back to domestic

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Speaker 9: policy stuff, and I think a lot of people look

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Speaker 9: over there. I remember the not sure responses for all

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Speaker 9: of these questions that we asked. We're pretty high like

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Speaker 9: people don't really understand what's going on in the Middle East,

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Speaker 9: and overwhelmingly because of the crisis of trust and institutions.

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Speaker 9: They think they're just being lied to about everything. I

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Speaker 9: think it's the same here. Well, Donald Trump had a

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Speaker 9: pretty high approval rating in the middle of June, and

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Speaker 9: then what happened is we started get involved in Israel

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Speaker 9: and Iran, and his approval rating started tanking and people

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Speaker 9: were overwhelmingly supportive of taking out Iran's nuclear program. But

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Speaker 9: the reason that he got elected was because of economic

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Speaker 9: concerns and because of a blowback of the Biden regime overreach,

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Speaker 9: weaponization of government, and the collapsing trust. Now, seriously, that's

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Speaker 9: what he should focus on. In this we asked a question,

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Speaker 9: what's more important to you, domestic terrorism or foreign terrorism.

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Speaker 9: Domestic terrorism is way higher, It's like sixty to twenty.

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Speaker 9: So people look over there and say, well, I'm not

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Speaker 9: even really that concerned about Islamic extremism anymore, because the

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Speaker 9: number one issue in America right now is fears of

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Speaker 9: political violence. Ninety percent are concerned about additional political killing,

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Speaker 9: and so we have major problems here. And we talked

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Speaker 9: about this, like previously on the show. People are looking

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Speaker 9: at the Zoomers and thinking that they're going to come

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Speaker 9: up and support trump Ism and be like the next

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Speaker 9: generation of Republicans that we've had because of a really

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Speaker 9: strong conservative movement, and it is not the case. These

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Speaker 9: people have lost hope. They're economically you know, in the wilderness,

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Speaker 9: all the jobs have been given to h one b's

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Speaker 9: and sent overseas. They don't even believe in free market capitalism.

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Speaker 9: They are not religious at all. The religion is plunging

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Speaker 9: in America. We just asked a question, how religious are you?

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Speaker 9: Only twenty four percent of Americans say very religious, And

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Speaker 9: then looking at the religion polling, it's like the people

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Speaker 9: who go to mainline Protestant churches and a lot of

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Speaker 9: Catholics like don't even really show that they sort of

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Speaker 9: pass morality questions because for instance, Protestants are seven times

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Speaker 9: more likely than evangelical Christians to support late term abortions

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Speaker 9: and so everything. It's like we've talked about the fourth turning,

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Speaker 9: but there's this other aspect I think basically of like

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Speaker 9: how the Silicon Valley people say it societal and shitification,

1304
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 9: and everything has turned to shit and it needs to

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Speaker 9: be fixed, and it's not going to be fixed. Between

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Speaker 9: like this paradigm of Republican policy versus Democrats policy that's

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Speaker 9: not where we're at now. The system's broken and needs

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Speaker 9: to be rapidly reformed. And again, if the right's not

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Speaker 9: going to do it, the left's going to have to

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Speaker 9: do it.

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Speaker 2: Do people make the connection that in trying to fix

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Speaker 2: the system here, that the geopolitics of the world are

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Speaker 2: very important, So that President Trump doing what he's doing

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. And look, remember I gave the speech

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Speaker 2: at the National Conservative Convention. I said, just like during

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Speaker 2: the Revolt in the Desert that T. Lawrence wrote about

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Speaker 2: and actually drove and participated in, they said the Middle

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Speaker 2: East was a side show to the Western Front and

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Speaker 2: that the air revault was a side show to the sideshow.

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Speaker 2: I say that the Middle East is a side show

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Speaker 2: to the massive geopolitical issues we have in the Eurasian

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Speaker 2: land masses, particularly the Chinese counties Party and what's going

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Speaker 2: on here in the United States. But do people see

1324
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Speaker 2: because President Trump this is this is a time sink,

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. Plus he's committed to be

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Speaker 2: in the nations of the world tomorrow that are going

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Speaker 2: to meet at the Resort on the Red Sea have

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Speaker 2: said Trump's got to be the chairman of the board

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Speaker 2: of Peace, which means he's gonna oversee the Uh, He's

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Speaker 2: gonna oversee Gaza essentially. Right now, Tony Blair is supposed

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Speaker 2: to be the executive director, but there's already a huge

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Speaker 2: pushback on that. They all want Trump unanimous. They all

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Speaker 2: have to have Trump. They don't want Tony Blair. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna take a break. Mark Witch is gonna stick with me,

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Speaker 2: Joel Gilbert, Joel Gilbert's gonna stick with us. Kurt Mills

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Speaker 2: is going to join us, maybe even Posso. We're waiting

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Speaker 2: for the President to leave in his motorcade out to Andrews,

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Speaker 2: which is kind of a logistics event all of its own.

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Speaker 2: You see right there, Air Force one is on the

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Speaker 2: is on the tarmac, ready to go to take the President,

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Speaker 2: the Commander in Chief, on his historic journey to Israel

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Speaker 2: and then to Egypt. Short commercial break, we're gonna turn

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Speaker 2: in the war room on Real America's Voice, continual coverage

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Speaker 2: of this historic event.

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Speaker 3: Back in a moment, Stephen came back, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the tarmac. We we go to the tarmac.

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Speaker 2: Out there he here comes the motorcade. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the beast. Looks like they're heading in right now on

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Speaker 2: the tarmac at Andrews Air Force Base, President United States.

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Speaker 2: So Mark Metro, let me have your voice as we

1351
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: watch the visual of the president and his entourage, his

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 2: closest advisor's head to the plane Air Force one. The

1353
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: roll of the dice. How dangerous the roll of the

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Speaker 2: dice is of a President Trump with the American people,

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Speaker 2: given he's only got like two thousand other things he's

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Speaker 2: working on, including a government shutdown.

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Speaker 9: Again, I think he needs to refocus on why he

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01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 9: got elected. In the Middle East is not why he

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Speaker 9: got elected.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 9: China is. China, absolutely is. The American people aren't stupid,

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Speaker 9: and we are economically very very very entangled with China.

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Speaker 9: And we've asked a lot of questions about this. One

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Speaker 9: of them is is China an enemy or an ally

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Speaker 9: of the United States? And nobody ever really said ally.

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Speaker 9: But right in the first Trump term, the number of

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Speaker 9: people who said that China was an enemy skyrocketed. We

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Speaker 9: got to the point where enemy was winning fifty to

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Speaker 9: ten percent, so American voters were five times as likely

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Speaker 9: as China as an enemy.

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Speaker 2: We're doing We're doing our job. It's not China of

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Speaker 2: the Chinese people, it's the CCP hangar for one second, Mark,

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Speaker 2: I've just the President's about to get out under the

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Speaker 2: cover right there of.

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Speaker 10: The president is.

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Speaker 2: Did the president just go back to the media and

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Speaker 2: we may have a gaggle. Let's see if we can get

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Speaker 2: a microphone on this right now. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: a good one.

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Speaker 6: So this is going to be a very special time.

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Speaker 6: And I guess if you read your own papers and

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Speaker 6: your own networks, everybody's very excited about this moment in time.

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Speaker 6: So I'll see you on the plane. I think you're

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Speaker 6: traveling with us, but this is a very special event.

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Speaker 6: There at five hundred thousand people yesterday and today in

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Speaker 6: Israel and also the Muslim and Arab countries are all cheering.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's cheering at one time that's never happened before. Usually,

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Speaker 6: if you have one cheering, the other isn't.

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Speaker 9: The other is the opposite.

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Speaker 6: This is the first time. Everybody is amazed and they're thrilled,

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Speaker 6: and it's an honor to be involved, and we're gonna

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Speaker 6: have an amazing time and it's gonna be something that's

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Speaker 6: never never happened before. So I'll see you on the

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Speaker 6: plane and We're gonna have a good time. Okay, Peter,

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Speaker 6: nice to see you. Thank you, everybody see you.

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Speaker 8: A little while.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the President with a short mini gaggle. He is

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Speaker 2: now going to go up the front entrance to air

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Speaker 2: Force one, which is the special interest to the President

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Speaker 2: of United States. We'll see him enter. Got in a

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Speaker 2: long flight to Jerusalem or in this case, I guess

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Speaker 2: to the airport, could Televiv. There's the president, Mark Mitchell. Quick,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep our coverage to the president goes and

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01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: gets airborne. There's some Russa's staff going up right now

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Speaker 2: in our camera feed, Mark, everyone is cheering in the

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01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: Middle East. That's correct, and I think the Poland shows

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Speaker 2: that there's tremendous support for the president's efforts right now. Sir.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they were mixed on whether or not he'd be

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01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 9: able to get a piece deal last week, but this

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Speaker 9: is one of his better issues. We asked if he's doing,

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Speaker 9: you know, how good a job he's doing on the

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Speaker 9: on the issue of Israel, and it was forty four

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Speaker 9: plus good, which is higher than Joe Biden got rated

1414
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Speaker 9: ever on anything, including his best issue, national security. But again,

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Speaker 9: people don't really know what's going on over there. I

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01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 9: don't think it really affects them. It's been made to

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Speaker 9: affect them. But let's acknowledge that there's been an exchange

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Speaker 9: talking about retaliatory tariffs on China of one hundred percent

1419
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Speaker 9: in this trade war that just escalated, and we are

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Speaker 9: so entangled with them, Like seventy percent of the skews

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Speaker 9: on Amazon and Walmart are basically sourced in China. We

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Speaker 9: have the second highest source of H one b's in

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Speaker 9: the United States. They have hundreds of thousands of students

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Speaker 9: here on visa and I mean, we've just built America

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Speaker 9: on our relationship with the Chinese, even though even ten

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Speaker 9: years ago we asked a question an Americans said, no,

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Speaker 9: what happens economically is what's in the best interests of China,

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Speaker 9: not the Americans, by almost eight out of ten, And

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Speaker 9: so they know that this is a problem. They say

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Speaker 9: that China's our number one for an adversary, now the

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Speaker 9: number one and two adversaries ahead of China or the

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Speaker 9: Republican and the Democrat Party. Unfortunately, but we have a

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Speaker 9: major issue here with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hang one second, I got footage right there at

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Speaker 2: Air Force Swamp Press is about to leave. We are

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Speaker 2: going to toss at the bottom of the urt momentarily,

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Speaker 2: We're going to toss at the bomba They r to

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Speaker 2: Cowboy logic in progress. Let me go to Kurt, mails

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Speaker 2: Kurt quickly. Right there the president. Everyone's cheering. They are cheering.

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Speaker 2: What does this mean overall? Particularly tomorrow when he goes

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Speaker 2: to Israel, first talks to the Knesset, meets the hostage,

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Speaker 2: then he goes to over to Egypt where the peace

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Speaker 2: conference is Sir.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it has the potential to be a

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Speaker 10: mega day for President Trump, potentially the best day since

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Speaker 10: his last trip to the Middle East in mid May.

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Speaker 10: It's a holiday weekend, a lot of Americans are off,

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01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,759
Speaker 10: and a lot of Americans haven't been fully paying attention

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01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 10: to what's going on in the Middle East. They know

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Speaker 10: that bombs are flying, they know the deals are failing,

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Speaker 10: and Trump, amidst basically the entire regions LEAs Will announced

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Speaker 10: what appears to be a watershed deal broken at the

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Speaker 10: eleventh hour by him and his team, to you know,

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Speaker 10: cease hostilities on this. Now there's people nipping at the

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Speaker 10: edges of this. Hardliners in Israel, those who would want

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Speaker 10: to see it scuttled in the sort of terroristic parts

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Speaker 10: of the Islamic world, But in general, Trump has brought

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Speaker 10: for an agreement to end this war, and he is

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Speaker 10: going to try to not so much spike the football tomorrow,

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Speaker 10: but throw it into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that that fully understands that the outcome

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Speaker 2: of this will be a two state solution, that the

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Speaker 2: a proto Palestinian state is going to be created in

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Speaker 2: Gaza with two million Palestinians, full financing from Qatar, Ua

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Speaker 2: and Saudi Arabia, and the top it off a security

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Speaker 2: force of the Turks.

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Speaker 10: Sir yeah, I think the Islamic world is on board.

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Speaker 10: There was even murmurs overnight of a potential Iranian delegation

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Speaker 10: to this meeting in Egypt. It looks like they're not

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Speaker 10: going to send their president, but they might send their

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Speaker 10: foreign minister. I continue to hope that happens because FaceTime

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Speaker 10: with this president could prevent a war with Iran. The

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Speaker 10: only potential people who could scuffer this deal. Could scuttle

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Speaker 10: this deal are hardliners in Israel and Nenyahu, the Prime

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Speaker 10: Minister has said certain things in Hebrew not in English

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Speaker 10: that indicates that he doesn't think this is necessarily a

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Speaker 10: done deal, and extreme neo conservative voices like Lindsay Graham,

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Speaker 10: the South Carolina Senator, appeared on Meet the Press this

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Speaker 10: morning saying he's not sure it's a done deal either.

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Speaker 10: But these are radicals, are these are extremists. They shouldn't

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Speaker 10: be overlooked. What they should be ignored?

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Speaker 2: Well, what about Hamas also? They got a couple of

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Speaker 2: three bad mbres there that are that are still want

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Speaker 2: to go to the guns right away, right for sure.

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Speaker 10: But I mean Hamas has agreed to this deal. I

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Speaker 10: mean they are basically I mean the ruling kadre that

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Speaker 10: did October seventh. It's all been a fascinating goat wait

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Speaker 10: wir Mohammad Aldief, even the political leadership Ismail Hania was

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Speaker 10: killed under Ron in twenty four. This is basically a

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Speaker 10: working group of six to seven people old school AMAS operatives.

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Speaker 10: These are not necessarily the hardliners of Hamas itself. They

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Speaker 10: want to see this war end as much as anyone.

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Speaker 10: It appears they're exhausted. They have no play here and

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Speaker 10: right now is a piece of paper they can sign

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Speaker 10: to potentially disarm, sort of blended into the Palestinian population

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Speaker 10: and avoid having their people be jettison to Libya or

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Speaker 10: Europe or the US. And if you're thinking legacy for

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Speaker 10: these people, that's about as good as it's going to

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Speaker 10: get right now.

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Speaker 2: Kurt, thank you for jumping on your and changing your

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Speaker 2: schedule up. Hopefully we'll get you in the live two

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning show. What's your coordinates right now?

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Speaker 2: Some people can keep up with all your analysis.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're at ww Dotdamericanconservative dot com, and then we

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Speaker 10: are also at My own work is at at CRT

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Speaker 10: m ils.

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Speaker 9: On x.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Hopefully get you in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, Mark Mitchell, same saying, what are your

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Speaker 2: coordinates in your YouTube channel? You are on fire? Brother.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows the fourth turning and the implications better than

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Speaker 2: the team at Rasmus and Mark Mitchell. Where do folks go? Uh?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's going to be a wild ride.

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Speaker 9: Rasp must an underscore poll at YouTube, also at Twitter

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Speaker 9: and my personal account is at honest Polster and yeah,

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Speaker 9: I have some pretty hot takes.

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Speaker 2: Usually one thing I can tell you that's money good.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a wild ride. That's going to

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Speaker 2: be That's why people are stay tuned. Mark Mitchell, thank

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Speaker 2: you for taking your Sunday afternoon and joining Real America's

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Speaker 2: voice historic coverage of this historic event. Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be back at two a m. Eastern

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Speaker 2: daylight time for at least four hours when everybody all

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Speaker 2: the worm posse. Make sure you go to bed early,

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: get up, put a big pot of warpath coffee on,

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Speaker 2: and join us. Joe Gilbert, filmmaker. Where do people get

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Speaker 2: your films? Where they get your writings? Your analysis of

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01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: the Middle East is second to none, and most importantly,

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01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: right now you are on big Tiss James, like nobody's business,

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01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 2: though all the news media is following you and your assessment.

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Speaker 2: Where do people go to get it all?

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Speaker 4: Joel, There's a couple of Middle East films I made

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Speaker 4: over the years, Atomic Jihat in Farewell Israel. My corporates

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Speaker 4: say all my films Highway six' one e n T

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Speaker 4: for Entertainment, Highway six to one ent dot com and

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Speaker 4: Joel S.

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Speaker 2: Gilbert pitch it hard on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: And I still am concerned that Hamas is controlling this

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Speaker 4: entire event, that they may seek to renegotiate stuff at

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Speaker 4: the last second, so I don't necessarily trust those guys

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Speaker 4: that it's all about deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna watch Air Force one tow it goes

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Speaker 2: wheels up. Then we're going to turn over to the

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01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: great cowboy logic Joel real quickly as we wait for it.

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Speaker 2: Don't you believe that the sponsors, I mean cut Our

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Speaker 2: when Cutter and Saudi Arabia and Yuae say hey, we're

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Speaker 2: in and it's going to be our money, Isn't isn't

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Speaker 2: Hamas and even the Passer Aren't they just a local

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Speaker 2: franchise he say, Particularly mass is a local franchise e

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Speaker 2: for the Muzzlim brotherhood. Don't they were without Qatar theor nothing?

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Speaker 4: Not really, I mean Qatar has been paying off radical

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Speaker 4: Muslims to ensure they're own survival because they're a very

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Speaker 4: small minority, small family. Let me tell you what Hamas

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Speaker 4: is thinking. Jaha Sinoar was in Israeli prisons for twenty

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Speaker 4: two years. He got out in the Shalite deal. They

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Speaker 4: let out one thousand terrorists for one Israeli soldier twenty eleven,

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Speaker 4: and he took over Hamas and started this war. Hamas

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Speaker 4: is thinking the new group of terrorists coming out of

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Speaker 4: prison today or tomorrow. They're going to be the new

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Speaker 4: leaders of Hamas and they're going to continue their war.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think that this thing is over. I

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Speaker 4: don't think Hamas is going to disarm. I'm not even

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Speaker 4: sure the President of the United States should be flying

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Speaker 4: to the Middle East knowing that it all depends on

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Speaker 4: Hamas coming up with these hostages. So I'm very skeptical

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Speaker 4: about what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Wow, do you anticipate before I let you go real quickly?

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Speaker 2: You anticipate Hamas may have tried to play three card

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Speaker 2: money and not release all twenty hostages.

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Speaker 4: I think they're right now negotiating for higher level terrorists

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Speaker 4: like Bargudi and for the guy that murdered for Sadat,

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Speaker 4: that murdered one of the Israeli cabinet ministers. I think

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Speaker 4: they're not controlled by Qatar and they're looking forward to

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Speaker 4: a renaissance. They didn't mind that all their leaders were

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Speaker 4: killed because just like Sinoar, they're going to get a

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Speaker 4: new group of leadership out of Israeli prisons. That's the

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Speaker 4: game they're playing, and I don't think anybody understands that.

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Speaker 2: It's two thousand prisoners. My understanding and included in the

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Speaker 2: two thousand, I think are two hundred and fifty of

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Speaker 2: the top terrorists. Am I correct in that that they

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Speaker 2: got a list of like the top two fifty, then

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Speaker 2: it's another you know, nineteen hundred and some of bad

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Speaker 2: guys at ombers, but they got like two fifty of

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Speaker 2: their top guys are part of this deal. That's who

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Speaker 2: they're getting back. Correct.

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Speaker 4: We're going to see We're going to see all these

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Speaker 4: people back in the leadership of Ramas like nothing happened,

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Speaker 4: and they're not going to give up their weapons. And

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Speaker 4: you're going to have this cabal of Gulf states with

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Speaker 4: Qatar and Turkey demanding that Israel hands off Gaza, and

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Speaker 4: they're going to try to use Trump and the American

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Speaker 4: troops to prevent Israel from acting against Kamas and start

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Speaker 4: to demand their diplomatic strategy against Israel that Sadats started

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Speaker 4: in seventy seven. They're going to start demanding that Israel

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Speaker 4: withdraw from Jerusalem and the West Bank create a Palestinian state.

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Speaker 4: And if you do that, we're going to give you peace.

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Speaker 4: But again, as we spoke earlier, it's peace on Islamic terms,

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Speaker 4: peace on Islamic terms requires the domination of Islam over Jews,

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Speaker 4: not an equal state relationship. So enjoy the euphoria for

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Speaker 4: the next twenty four hours, because I think it's going

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Speaker 4: to be all downhill after that.

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Speaker 2: Do you, uh last thing, the two hundred troops we

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Speaker 2: talked about. I got assurances that they were not There

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Speaker 2: was a misread by Morning Joe that they're actually not

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Speaker 2: only not going to go to Gaza, they're not going

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Speaker 2: to Israel. They're gonna do everything remote coordination. And this

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Speaker 2: used to be Moe's job in the army, a logistics officer.

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Speaker 2: Of course, hers was not remote. They went into a rack.

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Speaker 2: They had to be in close. So it's kind of

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Speaker 2: odd to do it to coordinate. But is that the

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Speaker 2: type of thing you think? Put American troops in there

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Speaker 2: and get them in between in some tough situation between

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Speaker 2: Israeli forces and uh, here we go right down the

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Speaker 2: runway and we're gonna do a hard break. I tell

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Speaker 2: you what, Joel, I'll get that question to you maybe

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Speaker 2: in the middle of night, just one more time. We'll

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Speaker 2: give you what's your what's your coordinates?

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Speaker 4: Joel S Gilbert on Twitter and Highway six' one e

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Speaker 4: nt dot com for all my.

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Speaker 2: Films The president AND I states just goes wheels up

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Speaker 2: At Andrews Air Force base on A sunday. Afternoon he

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Speaker 2: will arrive In israel On monday morning after taking an overnight.

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Speaker 2: Flight the historic journey Of President trump on a triumphant

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Speaker 2: mission to bring. Us he, says not the end of

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Speaker 2: The Gaza Hamas, war but peace in The Middle, east

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Speaker 2: something people have tried for decades and decades and, DECADES

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Speaker 2: i don't, know maybe a thousand. Years right, There Air

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Speaker 2: Force one goes up into the. Clouds we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: a hard cut cowboy logic is in. Progress we're gonna

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Speaker 2: jump to. It we'll see you back Here Real america's

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Speaker 2: voice the War room at two Am eastern daylight. Time

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Speaker 2: set your alarm and your coffee. Pot join. Us it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be historic of nothing. Else we'll see you back

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Speaker 2: here at two. Am