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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Wednesday. They the Texas All

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Speaker 1: Access from the Hounday Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris.

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Speaker 1: That is Mark Random here, the voice of the Texans. Mark.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing. I'm doing great, Johnny Man, what

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day, So nice, so nice. All right, we

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Speaker 1: got plenty for you tonight. Drude Ordy is gonna come

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Speaker 1: by and we're gonna play three agency free agency. Is

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Speaker 1: you get three picks for free agency, you got the

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Speaker 1: money to do it, you get three selections. So we

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Speaker 1: put three and three together and got kind of drafted

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Speaker 1: like you couldn't have the same people. And no, no,

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Speaker 1: we didn't draft. And we actually said this is your strategy.

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Speaker 1: But I drew go first and then I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick any of the guys that you pick,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna pick my three. Oh really, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: who while we're here, you've obviously got you a sixty

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Speaker 1: We're gonna bring back a couple of other players. Obviously

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Speaker 1: got to sign Shane Leckler for sure, and you might

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Speaker 1: You got about sixty five million in cap space. Of

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Speaker 1: course I do now was sixty five million lying around?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Of your money? Yes, so it's your money.

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Speaker 1: And you've got three free agents to go get. Who

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Speaker 1: are the guys that stand out to you? Nate Solder, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll go get him. I read a report twelve million

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Speaker 1: That's that's no problem. I can do that twelve mill

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson? Who do I want? There? I gotta know

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Speaker 1: everything to happen with Butler prior to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: his relationship with the Patriots, and if I Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: and Brian Gaine. I've got a feeling. I've got the

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Speaker 1: phone numbers to call to get me that information. So

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Speaker 1: I can acquire that information. And I'll go ahead and

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Speaker 1: sign Butler. Okay, I'll Solar Butler. Yeah, and you got

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Speaker 1: money for a third one? You have how much money?

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Speaker 1: Do it? Do I have enough money for Andrew Norwell? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you do. I think you do? All right?

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Speaker 1: I like your thinking, Well, why don't I just go ahead?

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Speaker 1: And that because, like we said yesterday, Johnny, I really

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Speaker 1: feel like you've got to go ahead and address everything

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Speaker 1: as we discussed, not insurance but developmental type players who

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Speaker 1: could possibly help you out this year. But you just

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Speaker 1: got to go ahead and cover all your bases through

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Speaker 1: both the draft and free agency in duplicate form, because

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Speaker 1: you cannot afford any slip ups here. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: you want to take advantage of this as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that's how you do it. I agree

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Speaker 1: your thinking. Of course, it's nice to have money as

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Speaker 1: oppose to the last few years. Remember at this time

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Speaker 1: last year were talking about whether Tony Romo could become

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Speaker 1: How in a year's time is that changed. It just

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Speaker 1: goes to how about two years ago you didn't know

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Speaker 1: you would have brock Us Wilder, and you were happy

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Speaker 1: not quite as happy, oh not as but I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to do this. I wanted to start a new segment

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Speaker 1: with you. It's called at first glance sort of way

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Speaker 1: get your thoughts the first time you saw it, because

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Speaker 1: today has been a mildly explosive day in the NFL. Right,

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Speaker 1: so get a little bit of this from our friends

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Speaker 1: at Pro Football Talk from Mike Florio. All right, here

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Speaker 1: your draft strategy? Still, best player available, load up on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, load up on in the secondary, whoever's

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Speaker 1: the best guy there. And it will be hell if

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Speaker 1: if you if you see a running back that's fallen

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Speaker 1: or that's just so valued high than where you think

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Speaker 1: you would have normally got him, and you want to

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Speaker 1: take him. Okay, go for running back. If you see

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher, even better, you see a pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher, a defensive end outside lot, go with it.

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Speaker 1: But I think I still think just attack those areas

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Speaker 1: of need because there are so many areas of need

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Speaker 1: on this team other than quarterback, other than top flight

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, and other than defensive line front seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, I'd be fine. I'd be fine

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Speaker 1: adding I'd be fine adding playmaking ability there. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. You obviously you obviously have to

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Speaker 1: prioritize your needs because you're not gonna say, oh, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy,

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Speaker 1: this guy, and they're all gonna fit right in. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And something that has to do with the injuries, as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned CJ fedor which you don't know what he's

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Speaker 1: gonna come back, right, whether whether he's gonna come back,

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Speaker 1: and then if he's gonna come back, kind of state

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be in. And the same with the anti foreman,

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Speaker 1: you don't know, So bringing up running back in tight end,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you with those those three. Even Trey Burton.

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Speaker 1: I love Trey Burton. Trey Burton University Florida. I loved

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Speaker 1: watching and play he really unfortunately was there at a

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Speaker 1: time in Florida where they didn't have He's kind of

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Speaker 1: in between Irban Meyer and at a time when Burton

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Speaker 1: was maybe not used the way that he ended up

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Speaker 1: being used as a filtelph Eagle. So just not so

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Speaker 1: much to play Devil's advocate, but just I'm gonna continue

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Speaker 1: along those lines. But I'm gonna use I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: three different players. How about that. I like it? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start with a guy that I don't

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Speaker 1: know whether he could play tackle, and that's my that's

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Speaker 1: my only concern. That's my only concern because he played

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Speaker 1: guard and he has played a little bit of tackle.

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Speaker 1: But I like the fact that he can play either,

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Speaker 1: and I'd like to see him eventually move out to tackle.

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Speaker 1: Now he he had an injury last year and it

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Speaker 1: does worry me a little bit. But when he was healthy,

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Speaker 1: Justin Pew of the Giants was an outstanding offensive linement.

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Speaker 1: And I think the more outstanding offensive linement you can get. Hey,

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Speaker 1: look if you've got just sorted out, because you really

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Speaker 1: had to get him here. The only Hilliard out bell

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Speaker 1: can you had last year was was Nick Martin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think Justin Pugh. Now again, I think like Solder.

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Speaker 1: I think Pu could get paid. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he'll get paid as much, but he might get paid

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Speaker 1: for longer. I think a deal for Solder might be

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Speaker 1: three years, a little shorter because he is thirty one,

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Speaker 1: or Justin Pugh a little bit younger. Maybe him a

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Speaker 1: five year deal, and you know, maybe there's an option

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Speaker 1: at the team option at the end of it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but there's some things you can do. But

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Speaker 1: I think Justin Pugh adding to this roster Moore a

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Speaker 1: good offensive lineman, you have the better. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I've got to completely break the bank for Pu.

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Speaker 1: I might have to for Solder. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Justin Pugh. As my first one. Now that these

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Speaker 1: are in no certain order, and that's you know what,

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Speaker 1: you bring it up. You bring up breaking the bank,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you do, because the Texans were hot

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Speaker 1: and heavy in twenty eleven after Namdi Asomlaw. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would have had to quote unquote break the break,

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Speaker 1: break the bank to get him. They lost the Eagles one,

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Speaker 1: but Texans want to getting John and Joseph Danielle Manning

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Speaker 1: and Johnathan Joseph is in my estimation, maybe the second

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Speaker 1: greatest Texans defender ever. Maybe I think he's the best

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Speaker 1: free agent signing the team's ever had. And you really

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Speaker 1: won that one. So if you don't necessarily break the

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Speaker 1: bank this year, doesn't mean you're not waiting long term.

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Speaker 1: You might have. You might have pulled off something special.

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Speaker 1: So I'm cool with that, all right, my second one,

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Speaker 1: and now now I'm going to I'm gonna give a

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Speaker 1: couple names here where you might go, Wait, what you

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Speaker 1: had three free agents to pick? Now, I'm I'm using

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Speaker 1: a little bit of fiscal responsibility, okay with my next ones,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I feel like if I signed

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Speaker 1: these next two guys, I'm satisfying needs. But I'm also

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Speaker 1: not paying a ton of money for them, so I

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Speaker 1: might be able to get another fourth free agent, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get Rashaun Melvin from the Colts. Long.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even lean long wiry corner. Thought he had

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Speaker 1: a pretty solid year as the Coats corner and he

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Speaker 1: was in the game here. I think he got hurt

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Speaker 1: sometime this year, but the game here he was phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't throw on him, and he's got the body type

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Speaker 1: I think can grow into a pretty solid corner. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have to pay a lot for

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Speaker 1: Sean Well And think about that, you couldn't throw on him,

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Speaker 1: And were you facing a front seven in the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Colts that was up there with this dy five bears exactly? So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that even speaks more highly about

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Speaker 1: who he is, what he can be, and what he

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Speaker 1: might command. And here is my last one, and I

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Speaker 1: bring this up because I just I just don't know

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Speaker 1: that Diante Foreman is gonna be fully healthy, Okay, at

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Speaker 1: least at the beginning, okay. And I feel like the

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Speaker 1: Texas have had situations over in the past where short

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Speaker 1: yardage situations have been really difficult. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: and get a guy that Bill O'Brien has coached before

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Speaker 1: that knows this offense a little bit. He's got rings

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Speaker 1: in the last two years, and that's La Garrett Blunt.

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Speaker 1: I like it now. La Garrett has had some stuff

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Speaker 1: off the field, but I think he's like lately not lately, no,

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Speaker 1: and not since he got into the NFL either. He

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Speaker 1: had that one incident with the Pittsburgh Steelers with he

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Speaker 1: and Leveon Bell, but he's gotten past that, and that

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Speaker 1: was five six years ago and he's gotten past that.

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Speaker 1: But to me, La Garrett Blunt comes in and he's

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Speaker 1: the hammer. After you've been hitting him with Fuller outside

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Speaker 1: and Hopkins outside and Watson's dealing to his tight ends,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, oh yeah, here comes

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Speaker 1: the hammer, Here comes Blunt. Trauma on you with La

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Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt. And I don't think with running backs you've

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Speaker 1: got to pay running backs a bunch of money. But

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Speaker 1: he's gonna know for the most part, he's gonna know

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Speaker 1: the terminology. Bill O'Brien knows him. He knows Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big factor in this and He's

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Speaker 1: somebody I enjoyed talking to at the Senior Bowl. Yeah

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Speaker 1: he was. He was very refreshing when I talked to

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Speaker 1: this guy, So I'd be cool with that. Yeah. Now

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Speaker 1: and two years ago, what he scored twenty one touchdowns

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Speaker 1: on the ground, Yeah he was. He was phenomenal. In

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, he was. He was just incredible. Now, there's

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Speaker 1: some other running backs on the list that I think

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Speaker 1: are worth are worth looking old his old teammate Dean Lewis, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dean trust. But the reason I went with Blunt is

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Speaker 1: because I think he satisfies a specific need, Because Lamar

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Speaker 1: Miller could kind of be like, yeah, Lamar, Lamar can

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Speaker 1: do do some of the things that La Garrett does,

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Speaker 1: but La Garrett can take away some of the pounding

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Speaker 1: Lamar has to take. Well, that's what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: It is Lamar Miller's more similar to Dean Lewis, I think,

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Speaker 1: than he is to La Garrett. Blunt absolutely now different guys.

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Speaker 1: In that scenario of the three guys I took, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I still have some money that I could

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Speaker 1: spend because I think what I'm trying to do with

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Speaker 1: mine is satisfy a number of different needs and kind

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Speaker 1: of spread them out a little bit. And I know

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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to probably pay for Pew, but

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Speaker 1: probably not as much for Melbourne, probably not as much

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Speaker 1: for the Garrett Blunt. So I maybe can satisfy by

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Speaker 1: a different need with those three. But I still go

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Speaker 1: into the draft and I'm looking for another corner, another tackle,

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Speaker 1: and those are probably two of my first three picks.

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Speaker 1: And then the third pick in the third round I

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Speaker 1: think ends up being sort of a wildcard, and it

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Speaker 1: could be, like you said, could be a running back

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Speaker 1: that falls. I think one other thing to look at

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Speaker 1: is some speed off the edge. I think speed off

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Speaker 1: the edge getting into the quarterback can be a big

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Speaker 1: factor if you add just that rink on. Maybe it's specialized,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's only third down and then plays on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: and that's all that guy does. I got like Shakeem Griffin.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna say that sounds like Shakeem Griffin. It's exactly

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Speaker 1: who I would like to see. That that would be

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Speaker 1: a wild card I'd be okay with, not before taking

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Speaker 1: a lineman and a corner or a secondary member with

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Speaker 1: those first two third round picks. All right, So we

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Speaker 1: called this three agency at the start. But you went cheap,

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Speaker 1: you said, So you went with the idea to go

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Speaker 1: at a fourth. Who would be your fourth if this

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Speaker 1: is where I might spend a little bit more money,

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Speaker 1: but I'd go for Andrew Norwell from the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I might spend a little bit more money, but I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing in a guy that has played in a system

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Speaker 1: that's not quite like the Texans a run, but he

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Speaker 1: was asked to do a few different things. Now, I

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Speaker 1: know I probably have to pay for Norwell a little

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Speaker 1: bit coming off a Pro Bowl year, But I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with that. And if I can't get in Norwell, then

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Nate Solder philosophy and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go sign Josh Sitting as long as he's healthy, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring in Sitting here and maybe he gets

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Speaker 1: one or two years okay, and he steps in right

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Speaker 1: next to Nick Martin and away we go. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm if you here here to pull off Pugh, Melvin

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Speaker 1: Blunt and Norwell, I love That's a that's a good

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Speaker 1: haul right there. That that changes. That's four guys and

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Speaker 1: you that are probably gonna start right away. Three guys

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Speaker 1: for sure gonna start blunt. Depending how you look at it,

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Speaker 1: you're changing, You're changing the complexion of what you can

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Speaker 1: do going forward because you're just adding layers on different things.

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Speaker 1: But most important, you gotta satisfy the offensive line, off

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Speaker 1: the line secondary those in the two and we talked

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Speaker 1: about those for a while. Drew. Nice job, brother, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It is Drew Noughty. In our three agency draft. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next, we got a little Bill O'Brien for you

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Speaker 1: from the combine. Yeah, the non football stuff with Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to hear this, including Rocky one or Rocky two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he handles that question next right here in Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: This is that time of the years we get near

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Speaker 1: the draft of fifty days away, and talk of trades

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Speaker 1: at the top of the draft become, well, they become

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Speaker 1: the talk of the draft, to be honest with, especially

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Speaker 1: a year when there are five potential first round quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in six if you wanna throw Mason Rudolph in there

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Speaker 1: as well. I bring it up because I saw this

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Speaker 1: tweet from Gil Brandt, which I found very interesting. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, Saint Louis Rams were sitting at number two,

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Speaker 1: right beyond the Annapolis Colts and the Cults. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take Andrew luck That seemed a fatal complex. Robert Griffin

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Speaker 1: third got really hot in the raft process, and the

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Speaker 1: Redskins decided they were going to trade up and go

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Speaker 1: get RG three, But they had to give up a

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Speaker 1: boatload of picks to the Rams. And the Rams said,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll do the deal. They had at the time,

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, they had Sam Bradford. He had

637
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Speaker 1: been banged up. They didn't know where they could rely

638
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Speaker 1: on Bradford, but they said, let's do it. Let's go

639
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: with this trade. We'll rely on Bradford. But all these

640
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Speaker 1: different picks we get are going to end up paying

641
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Speaker 1: off in a big way. Here are the players that

642
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: the Rams drafted over the next couple of years with

643
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: those picks acquired in the RG three trade. Only one, two, four, six,

644
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: eight players. Eight players were drafted by the Rams with

645
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: that RG three trade. Michael Brockers taking in the first round.

646
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: He's still with the Rams, to Norris Jenkins was taking

647
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: the second round. He's now a Pro Bowl corner for

648
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: the Giants. Isaiah Pede running back out of the NFL

649
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: Kivus Watkins, offensive lineman out of the NFL, alec Ogletree

650
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: and in the first round traded to the Giants today.

651
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: We talked about that a little bit earlier. Steadman Bailey,

652
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of the NFL. Zach Stacy running back

653
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: traded to the New York Jets. I think he might

654
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: be out of the NFL by now. And then the

655
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: number two pick in the twenty fourteen draft, in between

656
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney and Blake Bortles was Greg Robinson. He's now

657
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: with the Lions. Now, you ended up with a couple

658
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: of players, But how much they actually did for the

659
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: Rams with that deal, It's interesting. It's one thing to

660
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Speaker 1: make the trade, it's another thing to go find players.

661
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: You got eight picks. You had to hit on four

662
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: of them. The Rams ento four picks. Maybe they never

663
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: go to LA. Didn't happen that way. They ended up

664
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Speaker 1: having to trade up and go get Jared Goff and

665
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: nothings are looking up for LA going forward. But eight players,

666
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: I honestly they missed on all of them. But man,

667
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: they've had nothing to show for that draft. I'll look,

668
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: it's six years later, but they've got nothing. To show

669
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: that Michael Brocker's a part time player next to one

670
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: of the best defensive players in the league, Aaron Donald.

671
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: All Right. I mentioned coming out of the break that

672
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Speaker 1: we would have Bill O'Brien with us, and we did

673
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Speaker 1: at the combine. We got to a point with Bill

674
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: that he look, we talked a lot of serious football stuff.

675
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: Let's get to the not so serious football stuff. I

676
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: was ready to talk about some football movies and some

677
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: sports movies, so I did, and we did with Bill

678
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: O'Brien at the combine. Crazy thing to think about the

679
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: division in twenty fifteen from GM head coach combination, you're

680
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Speaker 1: the older statesman in the entire division. I mean, I

681
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: look at that. I wouldn't go that far, but you're

682
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: the only You're the only head coacher general manager is

683
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 1: still here, still in his spot that of any GM

684
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: or head coach in a division. And I guess that

685
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: shows how much things have changed and what the division.

686
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean, TWOFC South teams go. When a couple of

687
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: years ago were talking about AFC South not that great,

688
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: but now you're looking at it going this could be

689
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: the best division football. Yeah, it's a good division, good,

690
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: really good coaches, good players, you know, good quarterbacks. You know,

691
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was very very close to go into the Super Bowl,

692
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, so, uh, you're right, it's changed a lot

693
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: of think about that a lot. You know, the coaches

694
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: have changed, gms have changed, and you know, we we

695
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: have to change, you know, meaning like we have to

696
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: make sure that we're doing a very good job of

697
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: some of the things that I just spoke to Vandy about,

698
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, making sure that our we're taking care of

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00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: our own stuff. Where are we headed with offense, where

700
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: are we headed with defense? Where we headed with special teams?

701
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: With the roster? And then we have to really study

702
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: this division because it's not the same division it was

703
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Speaker 1: in fourteen. With all due respect to that division and

704
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: twenty and fifteen division, this is a this is a

705
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: different division, and we have to make sure we understand that.

706
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: When you finally get the players back, it's April, you

707
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: hit the ground running with conditioning and Luke Richardson comes

708
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: into play immediately. So what has it been like with

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00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: him so far? What can we look forward to? Yeah,

710
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: you guys are going to really enjoy getting to know him.

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00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a very very bright guy. He's uh,

712
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: he's much more than than a strength coach. He uh,

713
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: he brings a wealth of knowledge in all different areas,

714
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: whether it's flexibility, pliability, which is the new word nowadays. Uh,

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, obviously weightlifting, conditioning, but also nutrition, uh, sleep patterns,

716
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: h hydration. I mean, this guy, in his interview was

717
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: one of the most impressive interviews that that I've set

718
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: in on just overall. I mean, he was you know,

719
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting process this offseason with the mcnairrins.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all kind of sat in there together.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Roots was involved in some of it, you know,

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Speaker 1: but when we interviewed Luke, it was cal And and

723
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Speaker 1: Brian and Bob and myself, and he just did a

724
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: great job and his overall knowledge of everything that we

725
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: need in our program. I think our our players are

726
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: really going to uh really enjoy this guy and and

727
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: working under this guy, because I think he's got a

728
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: lot of things that can help these guys play better, uh,

729
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: take care of their bodies better, and prolong their careers.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a big influence on this team.

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Speaker 1: He talked about sleep Huh. Yes, I knew that was

732
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna get you know. It always comes up with relative

733
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: to me, Yes, relative to you, the coaching staff. Enough,

734
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: how much sleep I think radio guys need per night.

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Speaker 1: When I was in the morning show, I was getting

736
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Speaker 1: about five five, six, but it wasn't good. More. We

737
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: gotta shut the lights off. No no light in the room,

738
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Speaker 1: Competiti overnight show. I would do it that way, all right,

739
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: enough loss causes though, Yeah, that's true. Enough serious football stuff.

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Speaker 1: I saw his debate on Twitter a little while ago.

741
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: But your top three sports movies of all time? Oh gosh, well,

742
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: I just watched Miracle, so I gotta put Miracle shit

743
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: like the first night. But I just had seen it again.

744
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: That tugs into your heart. Sticks, there's a lot of

745
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Boston in there, so you go

746
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: too far when he's having them do the suicide and

747
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: again you're asking her. I remember your first trading camp practice.

748
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: They were running after practice, and I had a her

749
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: for this stream camp. Yeah, exact, Greenbrier, Hoosiers, Okay, Lovesickman,

750
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: unbelievable movie, unbelievable. That's why you're relating to the coach.

751
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: I get it. And then it's always you asked for three,

752
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give you. It's always a debate between Michael,

753
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: my son and I. Uh not with my wife she

754
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: because she can't stand this debate. But is it Rocky

755
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: one or Rocky two? And I have a hard time choosing,

756
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: But it's one of those first two Rockies three and

757
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: four and five Rocky they can they can go formula formulaic,

758
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Rocky too, Rocky rushing in four though Rocky was kind

759
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: of slow. Though Rocky two moves a little faster, the music,

760
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: the Rocky, the underdog training. So one or two. I'm

761
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: a one guy. I think Michael's a two guy. All right.

762
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: One more on the movies. Rudy or remember the Titans?

763
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Remember the Titans? Yeah? I love Rudy. I actually met Rudy. Yeah,

764
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: I was out to dinner. We were out to dinner,

765
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Colleen and I at LTMPOM. I don't know if I'm

766
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: allowed to say that, if it's set us sponsor and

767
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: and and the waiter came over and said, Hey, this

768
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: gentleman over here wants to meet meet you. And he

769
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: must have recognized my bald head and the hole and

770
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: munch in and he said, and that was Rudy. It

771
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: was Rudy at lt M bone Houston during the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah,

772
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: he he was doing Super Bowl row or radio row.

773
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: I met Rudy. Still, let's remember the Titans. Zough. Good, Sorry, Rudy.

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00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: It's relating to the coaches. Relate to all of them.

775
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: All right, one more, what's the winter youth sports update

776
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: with Michael? Um? I mean winter is there winter although

777
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: the weather has been kind of rough. Yeah, um, but

778
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: it was basketball was I would say that basketball team

779
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: was struggling at best, and then back now it's baseball.

780
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: So now it's Saint Vincent's baseball and then the Diamondbacks

781
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: in West you little League. So he's doing two teams,

782
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: two teams. That's the way to do it, baseball teams.

783
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: His mom's trying to get him to do his homework,

784
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: and he's out there taking cuts in the backyard trying

785
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: to figure out how to love loves it though, so

786
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: we know his dad, We know it his dad would

787
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: do he'd be doing. Yeah, of course exactly. Coach Snacks

788
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: a lot of good luck, thanks guys that I'm glad

789
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: to Coach O'Brien brought a miracle because that might be

790
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Speaker 1: number one on my list. Then again. Varsity Blues about

791
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: high school Texas high school football and a player that

792
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: ends up going to Brown University, a sort of my story.

793
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I love Varsity Blues. That's up there. There a lot

794
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: of good, great sports movies if I just stayed in

795
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: the football realm. Varsity Blues is up there. Water Boy.

796
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: Of course, everybody's gonna bring up Brian Song and some

797
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: of the emotional heart tugging moments of that. Oh gosh,

798
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: I can't even watch that without crying. Oh I just

799
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: booo in that particular movie. But that's a lot of

800
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: good sports movies. But miracles right up there. I was

801
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: eight years old, Team USA winning the Gold. I wanted

802
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: to play hockey right after that. Hockey. I was all

803
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: about hockey at that point. It's probably surprised to some people,

804
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: but hockey great sport. You're not gonna hit people in football, man,

805
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: go hit him in hockey, no question. So glad that

806
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: he was able to humor us. And yeah, I think

807
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm more a Rocky one guy. Just the original. Everything

808
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: was fresh and new, if you will, back in nineteen

809
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: seventy six, So I'd go with that one. Rocky two

810
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: is a little far fetched, a little bit, they both

811
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Speaker 1: go to the mat, they both go to the ground,

812
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: and then which one gets no. See, that's not the

813
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: way it goes. That's not the way it's assessed if

814
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: both guys go to the mat. But I'm not getting

815
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: into that too much controversy. But I'm more Rocky one

816
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: guy as well, so we won't have that debate too

817
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: much longer. But Rocky four is enough, love coach. Rocky

818
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: four is the Cold War. Rocky won the Cold War

819
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: by beating the Russian. Something to think about. Speaking of lists,

820
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: if you're into that sort of thing. In the Lab

821
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: this week with Drew Doherty and myself, we rank the

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00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: top five serials, and I guarantee you my Twitter is

823
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Speaker 1: gonna blow up in just a second. At Jay Harris Football,

824
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: everybody has feelings on cereals in and Out versus water Burger.

825
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: My man Tyler Suttarth is looking at me right now like, dude,

826
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: you're crazy. Yeah, I would take water Burger in and

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00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: out any day, just saying, although I love in and out,

828
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna hate not at this point anyways,

829
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: Because he's standing here, he's bigger than me. He can

830
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: beat me up. So there you go. But if you

831
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Speaker 1: want the top five cereals and we drafted days of

832
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Speaker 1: the week, so in the lab went way off the

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00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: page this week, so go check it out at our

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00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: podcast page at Houston Texans dot com. Big thanks to Mark,

835
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: big thanks to Drew Well, thank you guys for listening

836
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: and appreciate you and we'll see you tomorrow everybody, and

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Speaker 1: let's always go Texans.