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Speaker 1: birth mom is trying to take a back bracket. Play babe.

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Speaker 2: Is that legal?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be legal if you just snatch them,

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Speaker 1: you know, finders keepers, baby snatcher, Yeah, finders keepers. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just take them. Go to Cuba. You know, Cuban's

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Speaker 1: of car and that baby's mouth, nobody.

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Speaker 2: Will know that it's not a local baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. All the babies in Cuba are giving Cubans

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Speaker 1: of cards.

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Speaker 2: They don't have passifiers.

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Speaker 1: My thirty six sister N twenty nine got pregnant at eighteen.

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Speaker 1: That's where're right at, Team mom, Team Mom. That's right

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Speaker 1: out the gate. If you got pregnant eighteen, would what

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Speaker 1: do you do?

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Speaker 2: What I do? Which straight?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I am infertile and knew I couldn't

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Speaker 1: have kids. So when En said she was giving her

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Speaker 1: and went no contact five months after giving birth for

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Speaker 1: night stand and she apparently didn't remember or know the

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Speaker 1: father at the time of birth. But when V was two,

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Speaker 1: a man named T thirty five, so V is the kid,

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Speaker 1: the baby. A man named T thirty five message me

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Speaker 1: on social media, claiming to be the father of my child.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you could just be some random guy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how do you say.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was inside you, so you know, well, but

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Speaker 2: like someone.

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Speaker 1: Someone else could have been inside her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, was it a really dark club or.

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Speaker 1: Well, people could have sex with multiple.

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Speaker 3: People in a week, but she would at least recognize

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Speaker 1: Maybe, so we have N twenty nine got pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, N would recognize the man.

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Speaker 1: Yea, T is the man. T is the man thirty five? Right?

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Speaker 1: He ranandomly says, this two year old is mine? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I guess he hooked up with the eighteen year

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Speaker 1: old yeah, b which actually got pregnant at eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Barely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a big age gap. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's years later. It's years later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What would you do if you adopted this kid

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Speaker 1: and this random dude from Facebook is like, that's my.

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Speaker 3: Good I would look into the law first, right, called

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Speaker 1: I would just be like fuck off until actually the

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Speaker 1: go and like that's my baby.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no, I would yeah, but I would

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Speaker 3: find out like, okay, if this is baby is this.

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Speaker 2: Man's baby, then you know, does.

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Speaker 3: He have rights to this baby? I've officially adopted it.

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Speaker 3: That's why I would go to the lawyer.

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Speaker 1: And had run into him at a club and drunkenly

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Speaker 1: confess to the pregnancy. We met up as an OP

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Speaker 1: and the man T M. Bonded with his daughter V

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Speaker 1: and now that man is my husband of seven years.

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Speaker 1: Coming back to my sister, she wait.

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Speaker 2: What, what's a big jump? We missed some detail?

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Speaker 1: Wait?

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Speaker 4: So the guy that you're mister? Wait wait wait what's seck?

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Speaker 4: So this guy has a one night stand with your sister.

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Speaker 2: Has a baby with her.

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Speaker 1: Baby with her he's like, that's my baby, and you're OP.

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Speaker 1: He's like, now it's time to go to bone down.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he sounds like a catch.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean, at least he's got some strong swimmers

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Speaker 1: that is fertile. Coming back to my sister, she called

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Speaker 2: Bah bah put him in the army man.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, dude, he's gonna come all over the enemy.

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Speaker 1: I asked her if she wanted to adopt, and she said,

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Speaker 3: She legally adopted this baby. You can't just say trainzies again.

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Speaker 3: She didn't want the baby in the first place. I know,

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Speaker 3: I know, poor kid is gonna have the most fucked up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you're like, kids are basically like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I actually think that your most impressionable years are in

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Speaker 1: I mean, sure you're not gonna remember it.

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Speaker 2: You subconsciously too.

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Speaker 1: I was speechless for a few moments before replying that

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Speaker 1: if she wants to meet my child as an aunt,

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Speaker 1: she is welcome to and we can both sit v

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Speaker 1: goddamn mind, and I told her about tea dun't du dude,

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Speaker 1: she's spelling the tea yoo. That's actually kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: This is a really complicated sibling relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, She's like, oh, you want to take my

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Speaker 1: baby back? Well, you know the father, we're married, the fun.

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Speaker 3: And now the sister has no bargaining rights because the

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess maybe they can split custody or something.

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Speaker 3: Damn, I would hate to be the lawyers on this case. Complicated,

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Speaker 1: She exploded, calling me names and staying I store her life. Naw, girl,

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Speaker 1: I just stole your husband and your.

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Speaker 3: Baby, literally the life that came out of you.

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Speaker 1: I still, Oh my god. I then got a call

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Speaker 1: me from boone and T on the daily. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty fucked Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty fuck Yeah. Guys, what do you think, like,

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Speaker 2: Lover and then marry them?

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Speaker 1: And then marry them?

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Speaker 2: And true love is true love? T wasn't enough for

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Speaker 1: This is not making me very confident in the future relationship.

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Speaker 1: True love is true love. We got it though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got it. We got it. He said there was

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Speaker 1: and I agree. But I want to know if I'm

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Speaker 1: being too harsh and telling her about tea. So people,

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Speaker 1: I want to know, is OP the a hole? Put

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Speaker 1: it down the comments? But while you're comment in below, Arianna.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the verdict is?

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Speaker 3: I don't think her and the sister that close if

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Speaker 3: they don't know that they're getting married, why was the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think I think a piece in the clear.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty shitty to marry the guy, like

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Speaker 2: No, I mean it is, but it sounds like a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the sister has a right

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Speaker 1: the sister does not have a right to ope. She

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Speaker 1: come as an at that's nice. But yeah, anyway, let

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Speaker 5: You've just had the.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure of knowing this beautiful gem Ariana. My girlfriend. John's

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Speaker 1: out for the week, but he will be back soon

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Speaker 1: and I'll catch you in the next one.

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Speaker 6: I blew up at my husband. He lied and said

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Speaker 6: one that kicked him out. Am I the a hole?

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Speaker 1: Okayop? This is Okayop? I'm Samuel Dnner and I'm John Fry.

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Speaker 6: Uh huh, and these the best and the funniest, storied

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that's kind of sick. But John, I heard

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Speaker 1: you have a story for me.

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Speaker 6: I do, I do, But first I have to asked

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Speaker 5: You know, we got it was straight fire. It was

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Speaker 6: But you know, we gotta, you know, have a little

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Speaker 6: What's what's what's a fun funny uh mess that you've

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Speaker 1: I okay, oh sorry, I have some. I have some.

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Speaker 6: I have to specify. What's a lie that somebody that

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Speaker 6: you were in a relationship told you a lie? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: like the clothing one, right, the clothing one. Yeah, the

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Speaker 6: one where she like lied that she.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so John just knows me too well. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So so my first real girlfriend or second real girlfriend?

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Speaker 1: Should I say her name?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Omit all admit her last name. No, no, no, make a

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Speaker 1: new name. Make a new name, Addison Addison.

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Speaker 1: Uh so not Addison Ray. So that's not public yet.

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Speaker 1: My my long term relationship with Addison right now. So

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Speaker 1: this uh, this girl Addison, like I we had broken

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Speaker 1: this is this is not going to work, right. And

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Speaker 1: then she like she I'm like I see this skirt.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you should get this right, and she's

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Speaker 1: very normal, right, And then like I check in. I'm like, hey, like,

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Speaker 5: No, that she doctored the doctor receipt with Comic Sands.

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Speaker 6: Was It was more of a doozy than I was expecting,

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Speaker 6: I blew up at my husband. He lied and said

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Speaker 1: Why are you lying? Don't lie all the truth?

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Speaker 5: You always lying? Why are you always lying? Why are

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Speaker 6: I think that's where that came from.

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Speaker 6: So my sister twenty got out of a terrible relationship

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Speaker 6: And you know what's funny is like she's it's most

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Speaker 6: My sister was dealing with a handful of issues like

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Speaker 1: This is what babies do. I cry, man, They eat, sleep, whoop,

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Speaker 5: I've never had a baby.

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Speaker 6: You've never had a baby, But would you be shocked

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Speaker 1: I would not be shocked. I would be awoken, but

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: He said he wanted to stay with my sister to

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Speaker 6: He handed me a letter from her, claiming that it

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Speaker 1: What this seems weird?

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Speaker 5: This is getting weirder and weird.

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Speaker 6: I was worried and had no means of contacting my

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Speaker 6: Yesterday I got a call from an unknown number and

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Speaker 1: For her decisions. Oh my god, dude, that's so bad.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: I was in shock as she explained that she's not

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this husband is a piece of crap.

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Speaker 5: Dude, like this is.

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Speaker 1: Lied about it and then put her in a shelter base.

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Speaker 5: This is like evil stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah evil. I don't know how you can forget your

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Speaker 5: You think it just that statement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I shouldn't have a lied to you by writing

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Speaker 6: He said I was being unfair and it was wrong

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Speaker 6: I get that it's his house too, but I don't

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean great sister. Yeah, the sister.

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Speaker 6: This guy's like a sociopath and like everything combined, this

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Speaker 1: I like it's evil, Like it's evil, and like he

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't look evil, but he looks evil. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: See that's why I think. Is it sociopath?

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Speaker 6: The one where you like don't basically don't feel bad about, yeah,

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Speaker 6: or psychopath maybe one of those, like basically the thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just have like no conscience. Yeah, that is

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Speaker 1: this guy so bad. But you know what you should

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Speaker 1: never feel guilty about.

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