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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Alright, let's live on a first Friday Miracle edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. Merely Bo the Great z Gibbe undisclosed location.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, even if we disclose it, I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: you could find it through the smoke today. Oh you

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Speaker 2: have oh oh no, oh no, the pois.

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Speaker 3: Oh baby, so the poison through the headset.

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Speaker 2: Well that he was so he was so frustrated that

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Speaker 2: his voice doesn't discussed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his voice was not heard at the top of

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Speaker 3: this program.

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Speaker 4: I came here, so I brave, I braved, burning eyes,

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Speaker 4: burning lungs.

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Speaker 2: That's all happening for real. That isn't yeah, not tongue

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Speaker 2: in cheek.

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Speaker 3: That's all real. It is real.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. It is a sign of the apocalypse. We

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Speaker 4: got planes landing in Charlotte without landing gear. Did you

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Speaker 4: see that sent that to you flight from I said

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Speaker 4: nightmare fuel. I sent that tweet to you. It was

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Speaker 4: oh I didn't get it. You got it, Gibbe.

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Speaker 3: I saw it, saw.

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Speaker 2: It me you and Gibbe that I saw the thing

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Speaker 2: about all the flights that were grounded already.

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Speaker 4: Well, anyway, there was a flight from don't even know

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Speaker 4: there was severe weather Atlanta to Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: Okay, where when did you send it?

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Speaker 4: That's so weird? Go no, no, it's it's later. It

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Speaker 4: was the last thing I sent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last thing that we discussed was doing the show

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Speaker 2: to Munich. Now on the group chat, that's the last

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Speaker 2: thing I have.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with It's got to be he looks green,

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Speaker 3: is somehow thwarting you. I have a bug now on

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Speaker 3: my text chain that bumps the anytime someone sends me

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Speaker 3: a text message. This is eleven thirteen am. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: eleven thirteen am. You don't have he doesn't have it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, belt a plane lands safely at Charlotte despite not

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Speaker 4: having its front landing gears pilot, the last part of

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Speaker 4: it flight delays grow Yeah, well yeah, because now that

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Speaker 4: shutdown a runway there because they've got to figure out

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Speaker 4: how to hoist the front of the plane up so

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Speaker 2: We'd be fine to sit on that as I mean

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Speaker 2: you'd you'd be thrilled because you survived it.

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Speaker 3: No, they got him right off. They came run.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they came right off before they did it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: can you imagine that? Uh you know, uh, just just

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Speaker 2: your pilot here. We're not gonna have landing gear today,

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Speaker 2: so it's gonna be a bit of a rough landing gear.

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Speaker 4: Fortunately, it was only the nose gear, so they had

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Speaker 4: the back. So apparently he brought it in on the

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Speaker 4: back real good and then slow.

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Speaker 2: What an icon.

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Speaker 3: Totally put the nose down. They said, it was totally smooth.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible of him. Legend good, what an icon.

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Speaker 4: One people on board ninety six passengers five.

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Speaker 2: I bet he was a naval aviator at one point,

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Speaker 2: the elite.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think the best? That's the best. We'll make

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Speaker 3: you better. That's right. I was called.

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Speaker 2: That was very wonderful to read this morning in the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post that there were nineteen hundred flights grounded yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen percent of United's flights were canceled yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they canceled. My buddy's flight was canceled. My

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Speaker 4: form producer at CBS I followed his journey on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: They kept telling him it was on time, or Okay,

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Speaker 4: now it's on time.

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Speaker 3: It's on time. No, it's just gonna be delayed a

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Speaker 3: little bit, just.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be the hunt a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: And he's like, do better. You're telling me his flights

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Speaker 4: on time that was two hours ago. Yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: it's obviously not on time. Correct, And ended up having

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Speaker 4: to take a train. He got an Amtrak ticket and

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Speaker 4: took a train from Newark or from Penn Station, went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that whole area is a disaster, which

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Speaker 2: I a seris firsthand.

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Speaker 3: Last week rafa, Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well you can't find so you're supposed to fly

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Speaker 2: back yesterday and then I saw just this morning, like

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Speaker 2: you're talking about June twenty eight, You're supposed to fly

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Speaker 2: June twenty seventh. July second is the next available July second?

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Speaker 3: How does that happen?

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Speaker 2: Everything's over everything's over we know what. Everything's over sold,

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Speaker 2: everything's there's not enough people to worry.

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Speaker 3: Again, where's the severe weather?

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Speaker 2: The reason that well they a lot of today was

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Speaker 2: because of all the smoke, which I don't understand, Like

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Speaker 2: it's it's like basically if you're curious, like for all

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Speaker 2: the people like, oh, I like Yellowstone, I want to

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Speaker 2: go see Montana. Well this is August. This is what

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Speaker 2: it's like. It's just my brother said this years ago.

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Speaker 2: He's like, Montana's almost to the point for like the

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Speaker 2: next twenty five years where it's going to be two

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Speaker 3: That's basically the way that it's going to go. So

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Speaker 2: Because it's just it hasn't burned. And he has a

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Speaker 2: degree in forestry from University of Montana, so he's always

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Speaker 2: dialed into that. And basically because we are putting these things.

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Speaker 2: His theory is that we were putting them out so

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Speaker 2: there's all of this under the stuff underneath the trees

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Speaker 2: that's gotten old and dry, and it needs to be

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Speaker 4: But isn't what's happening in cana Is that they are I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know about Canada, but they're just letting them go.

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Speaker 3: That's their policy, that's the policy. Just let them go.

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Speaker 3: They just let them go. I mean it is raining

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota's storming in Minnesota, Wisconsin, a little storm action

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Speaker 3: around Saint Louis. That is it. In the entire East

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Speaker 3: we got to shut that, shut things down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why aren't we using these drones that they use

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Speaker 4: clouds to gather to produce rain. It's called cloud seating.

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Speaker 4: Why don't we do that in over the over the fires.

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Speaker 2: And maybe do that just get a little rain, I

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Speaker 2: mean that would sort it out. Smolders forever though too,

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Speaker 4: Well, I are both familiar with the smolder.

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Speaker 2: We are, yeah, the Yeah, So like the busiest day

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Speaker 2: like one of them the year. So it's just going

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Speaker 3: Especially because you've already set the tone for how it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know that there's there's no I mean,

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Speaker 2: the reason they're not honest with like your buddy and

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Speaker 2: get right. So they're trying to balance all of that

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Speaker 2: as best they can. So, you know, I three hundred

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Speaker 2: stagger all of that stuff to where it's manageable. But

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Speaker 2: they've got three people at a desk. I'm at Reagan

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Speaker 2: on Friday last Thursday. There's three people working a desk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. There also is.

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Speaker 4: In the olden days, they had and part of it,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure is like the stuff that I was doing

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Speaker 4: as a consultant, some of the airlines they were they

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Speaker 4: had more planes and more capacity than they had passengers,

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Speaker 4: and so if there was a cancelation, they were always

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Speaker 4: able to get people you know, going what I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Why did they change?

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Speaker 3: Well, why would you? Yeah, right exactly. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: If that plane never leaves, why can't they just like

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Speaker 3: reschedule that plane?

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Speaker 4: At a different time. Like that's what I understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, put it into that plane has not left my

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Speaker 3: fight that was canceled. That plane still here. So how

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Speaker 3: about we just as soon as six am tomorrow, we

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Speaker 3: can fly this plane out.

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Speaker 2: Probably don't have pilots, I would guess.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why they didn't fly. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but pilots bounce around. They don't have the same plane, not.

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Speaker 2: The same gear.

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Speaker 3: But if they haven't left, are there a lot of

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Speaker 3: an airport though, for sure. But I'm saying it's there

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Speaker 3: were Okay, let's take flights.

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Speaker 2: Saying my flight lasts like flight canceled, whole plane canceled.

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Speaker 3: So the crew that were supposed to work out.

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Speaker 2: This plane, that crew tomorrow at six let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And here's the other thing that they don't do,

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Speaker 4: And like in these cases, maybe they should. They can

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Speaker 4: take off at night. Why don't we just fly at three.

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Speaker 3: In the morning?

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Speaker 4: So that they ca Yeah, but if they haven't been

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Speaker 3: But like, just figure this stuff out. I mean, well,

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Speaker 3: more than likely we're going to another airport that's actually

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Speaker 2: I would tell you that even on Sunday, like eight

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Speaker 2: to six acond night at night, it was a ghost.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the apocalypse, like everything's closed at like eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you restaurants over there, the Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's it like they basically have decided,

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Speaker 2: They've had consultants and such tell tell them that it

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Speaker 2: is it is better for them to deal with all

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Speaker 2: of this negative pr to go through employees left and right,

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Speaker 2: to not have answers to questions, to refund next to nothing,

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Speaker 2: and to have the worst reputation versus having too many

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Speaker 2: flights and planes for people.

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Speaker 3: Well, what I would say and what I would what

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Speaker 3: I would tell you is they've recorded record profits in

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Speaker 3: the last calendar year. Yes, crow, they're they're winning. They're

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Speaker 3: saying we're doing just fine, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're putting these people out here to suffer

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Speaker 2: the slings and arrows sitting at these desks, Yes, trying

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Speaker 2: to help people without solutions.

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Speaker 3: Correct, and there's no The first thing they got to

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Speaker 3: do immediately if you became like the CEO, stop over

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Speaker 3: booking planes. Here are the seats, whatever's going to happen?

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Speaker 3: Like what if it's full? It's full? Yeah, and then

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Speaker 3: and then.

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Speaker 2: You should legal quite honestly correct, that should be illegal.

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Speaker 3: And then if you have people that show up, you

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Speaker 3: know you're gonna have someone you're you know you're gonna have.

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Speaker 2: A couple of seats. People miss flights, people can't make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then you're leaving yourself a little window then to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be illegal to say something twice. That

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Speaker 3: Agreed. Congress will get right to it. It'll be ten

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Speaker 2: I'm flying Tuesday, which is the fourth of July, which

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Speaker 2: The fireworks were for me, they were for you, So

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Speaker 3: Auntie Sue? And Sue? Why then on purpose?

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Speaker 4: She just didn't believe that it was when I just

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Speaker 2: Like, well, honey, this is for America.

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Speaker 4: They're like, who told you that my dad? When they

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Speaker 3: Now, will you be flying at any part in your

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Speaker 3: Morning? Sad because I've been told my wife has flown

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll hold up hope.

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Speaker 4: Did you ask if this had to do with your

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Speaker 2: No, but this is actually another This is actually providing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure has toxic smoke. Toxic smoke.

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Speaker 4: The official Nana took her walk today with a mask

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Speaker 2: You couldn't see the mountains, which is impossible in Montana

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Speaker 2: Do you even recall that that story this is down

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Speaker 2: I don't want that. I'm not going out there. So no, buddy,

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Speaker 3: I guess where were you were?

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Speaker 2: When did you go, oh, this ain't right and you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the dogs are going crazy. How I knew as

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Speaker 4: I enjoy going to a Guardians game, sure as a

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Speaker 4: I feel like there still is a great portion of

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Speaker 4: I think NFL is now obviously king that's America's past

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, close.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think baseball's fourth. I think it's well down.

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Speaker 4: I think though, that like what Otani is doing, okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I deal with this a little bit in

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Speaker 2: So there's a couple of there's several factors that lead

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Speaker 3: Number.

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Speaker 2: One, he is playing in it is well, it is

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Speaker 4: Why don't they get him on the Yankees just for

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Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna end up going to the Dodgers, which

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Speaker 2: So he's the Yankees. They don't have Dodger money.

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Speaker 4: Really, no Dodgers. I think it would be fine for him.

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Speaker 2: pitching and hitting.

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Speaker 3: He's elite.

442
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Speaker 2: I understand that, And I would also say this, it's

443
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Speaker 2: very likely that there were others that never got the

444
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Speaker 2: opportunity to do this in one hundred years. There had

445
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Speaker 2: to have had He's not a unicorn. I mean he's

446
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Speaker 2: he's performing like a unicorn. But there had to be

447
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Speaker 2: others who had the ability to do this and didn't

448
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Speaker 2: get the chance.

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Speaker 3: Possibly. Here's an example.

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Speaker 2: The last year I was down in Tallahassee, there was

451
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Speaker 2: a freshman shortstop slash pitcher, number one player in the

452
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Speaker 2: country who played for the Florida State baseball team. It's

453
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Speaker 2: a guy that I bet you heard of named Buster Posey.

454
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Speaker 2: Buster Posey would play shortstop. Came up as a shortstop,

455
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Speaker 2: so he's a shortstop. And then they talked to me

456
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Speaker 2: a lot into catching because you know, power hitting sixty

457
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Speaker 2: three four catchers or that's pretty good. That's a pretty

458
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Speaker 2: good deal. If you're one of those guys, you can

459
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Speaker 2: be a hoff. But he would close games, so like

460
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Speaker 2: a lot of times he would catch and then he

461
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: would pitch the ninth and close it. He was the

462
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Speaker 2: best closer in the acc But then he went into

463
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 2: the baseball He went into this as a catcher. So

464
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Speaker 2: I think that there are probably guys who have had

465
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Speaker 2: this ability and we're just because of how obtuse we

466
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Speaker 2: are with sports now, like specialization, specialization, we grap we

467
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Speaker 2: shut it down before it gets a chance to blossom

468
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Speaker 2: into what Otani is. All of that to say, it

469
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Speaker 2: is stupefying what he's done and is doing and has

470
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Speaker 2: done for several years.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that it is not getting the do

473
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Speaker 4: that it deserves because of either the lack of populayer

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Speaker 4: baseball or the fact that like people like me or

475
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Speaker 4: you or Gibbee, I don't know if you played baseball

476
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Speaker 4: as a young guy, feel like everybody of our generation did,

477
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Speaker 4: but like I was a very good baseball player back then,

478
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Speaker 4: and the best players pitched and played out. So the

479
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 4: fact that you were a great the best pitcher and

480
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Speaker 4: the best hitter on your team wasn't that weird? Very normal,

481
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Speaker 4: but it is extremely weird, obviously.

482
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Speaker 2: And so my theory is what they did is they

483
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Speaker 2: took that kid who's the best shortstop and best pitcher,

484
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: and over the course of the last forty years, they said, well,

485
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Speaker 2: you're better at this, so stop doing this. What if

486
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Speaker 2: we took all of the time that it took for

487
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Speaker 2: you to be the best shortstop in the best pitcher

488
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Speaker 2: and the best hitter and just made you the best

489
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Speaker 2: shortstop or just made you the best pitcher, right, And

490
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Speaker 2: that's the mentality of the sports machine.

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Speaker 4: So to be able to do what he's doing at

492
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Speaker 4: this level, to me is incredible.

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Speaker 2: It is incredible. It's absolutely incredible. It's not being it's

494
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Speaker 2: noticed like it's on ESPN, like they put it up,

495
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Speaker 2: like they talk about it. It's a couple of things though.

496
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Speaker 2: It's that sport has fallen off a cliff nationally. Baseball,

497
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Speaker 2: you know, just take care locally. We saw it in

498
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Speaker 2: the attendance figures, same thing going down and down in

499
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati with this Li Day La Cruz kid. So like,

500
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Speaker 2: locally baseball has cared about tremendously. But what you care

501
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Speaker 2: about is your team, because attendance is up right, your team. Yeah,

502
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Speaker 2: you in here in northeast Ohio. You care about the Guardians.

503
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: You do not care about the Red Sox or the Cardinals,

504
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Speaker 2: or the Yankees, or the Dodgers or the Angels or

505
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: the You don't care care about your team, right. So

506
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 2: baseball is very secular in that, in that it is

507
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: so regionalized that I'm sure there are a ton of

508
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Speaker 2: people here who are Guardians fans and love going to

509
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Speaker 2: games and watch the games or listen to the games

510
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: and all of that. But they don't they're not watching

511
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Speaker 2: the Angels. They don't love baseball. They love the Guardians.

512
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Speaker 2: That's the difference. That's what the NFL has. Yes, we

513
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: have Browns fans, but they're also football fans.

514
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Speaker 3: Because they'll watch Well that adds to it.

515
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Speaker 2: But like my dad doesn't play fantasy, be able to

516
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Speaker 2: watch eight hours of football to day. Oh yeah, Like

517
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Speaker 2: people that don't play this love the game.

518
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Speaker 3: Because the games it's good. The game's great.

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Speaker 4: And I do think anything that has one hundred and

520
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Speaker 4: sixty two games suffers from for sure the fact that

521
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Speaker 4: then how many are special?

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Speaker 3: Correct?

523
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Speaker 2: So there's that. So there's the ten o'clock pitches. He's

524
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Speaker 2: ever played a postseason game, It's crazy. I don't know

525
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Speaker 2: if Trout ever has, and they've had him. Trout was

526
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Speaker 2: the guy. I think Trout maybe played one series maybe,

527
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Speaker 2: but Trout's been the generational player, like he's our eras

528
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: Mickey Mantle or so I'm told. I've never really seen

529
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Speaker 2: him play a full game, but that's everybody says. And

530
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Speaker 2: he's played his entire career in Anaheim in a closet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so no one's seen him play thirty one years old.

532
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you, my buddy, no one seen him play.

533
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Speaker 2: The other factor with Otani, I think is the fact,

534
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question it would he would have

535
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Speaker 2: more juice to him if he were an American player.

536
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Speaker 2: Like there' that's another part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I just think it's it's wild.

538
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: There's any time he does something that it's like, well,

539
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Speaker 2: this is the last time this happened since eighteen ninety three.

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Speaker 3: It's like, it's crazy. To your point, though, I wonder

541
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Speaker 3: if an American would ever get that chance.

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Speaker 4: However, what what will be interesting to see follow is

543
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Speaker 4: over the next twenty years. Can is there anybody else

544
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Speaker 4: whoever reached itself? Because now the the notion that you

545
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: can't do this, yeah, has been thoroughly disproven.

546
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Speaker 2: I think you're I think you're open to it now more. Yes,

547
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: like this was a closed off idea for one hundred years.

548
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you couldn't do this.

549
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Speaker 2: I mean, hell, they took the ball out of Babe Ruth. Yeah,

550
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: that's the the twenties, he said, just hit Yep.

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Speaker 3: Mike Trout's played three games one season, one for twelve

552
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Speaker 3: with a home run.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what I mean, Like he's the best

554
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Speaker 2: play of generation. No one's ever seen him play. I

555
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Speaker 2: mean unless you went to a game where they play.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys seen Mike Trout play a game of baseball?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, never, I see you like twenty people right now,

560
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Speaker 4: Mike Trout was one of them. They all looked relatively

561
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Speaker 4: like athletes and fit his height weight.

562
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Speaker 2: I had have no idea, no clue. No, he's played

563
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Speaker 2: his entire career in a closet. Yeah, you imagine if

564
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Mannele didn't play for the Yankees, Like it's right crazy,

565
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Speaker 2: and he signed up for it. He likes it. There

566
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Speaker 2: was a time like four or five years ago where

567
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Speaker 2: he was was talking he's gonna go to Philly because

568
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Speaker 2: he's a Jersey kid. Like if he plays for the Phillies,

569
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Speaker 2: then it's a different vibe, just totally because people would

570
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Speaker 2: have seen him and they'd been relevant. Let me ask

571
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Speaker 2: you this, Okay, what is the football equivalent? What would

572
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Speaker 2: the football equivalent be to what Otani is doing.

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Speaker 4: Somebody was saying like it would be like because if

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Speaker 4: you know, Lamar Jackson ran for one hundred yards through

575
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Speaker 4: for two hundred and two touchdowns and then turn around

576
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Speaker 4: and played corner and had three picks in the game.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good one.

578
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Speaker 2: I thought about, like if Jamar Chase was like, hey,

579
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Speaker 2: let me go cover Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he did it.

581
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Speaker 2: He was like like.

582
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Speaker 3: Somebody's got I'm gonna go. I'm gonna I'm gonna go

583
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Speaker 3: play linebacker, right.

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Speaker 4: I think feel like in the and the reason I

585
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: use the Lamar, you've got to be throwing it, right, yeah,

586
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Speaker 4: so like to be able to throw it effectively, run

587
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Speaker 4: it effectively, and then turn around and and then play

588
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Speaker 4: defense and intercept other quarterbacks.

589
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Speaker 3: Like that's nuts.

590
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, because basically you're pitching, striking out hitters and hitting.

591
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Speaker 2: I think that's the best one. And hitting picture I

592
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: think I think you've done it. I think it was

593
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: the best one because the receiver corner analogy, it's a

594
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: similar muscle skill set you're using, whereas this is a

595
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Speaker 2: very different skill set from throwing and then and then

596
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: playing the field or hitting or whatever. So that's probably it.

597
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: It's probably the quarterback and corner. It's wild, it really is.

598
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: It's a it's a crazy thing. And he does it regularly,

599
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Speaker 2: and he's going to be a free agent this year, Like,

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Speaker 2: how do you even.

601
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Speaker 3: Him? Of course they can.

602
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Speaker 2: I just don't think he wants to play for an

603
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Speaker 2: irrelevant franchise again.

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Speaker 3: Got it?

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Speaker 5: You know?

606
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Speaker 2: So if he likes Southern California, which who doesn't, I'll

607
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 2: just go play for the Dodgers. Then give me all

608
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: the money in the world and I can play relevant baseball.

609
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, man.

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Speaker 2: And at the time, I think he wanted to go

611
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Speaker 2: American or American League because the DH ability.

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Speaker 4: Right, you know, so he wouldn't have to be in

613
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Speaker 4: the play yeah, in the field. So it really is

614
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Speaker 4: a wild thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So we're going to do

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Speaker 3: higher lower next okay, okay, because we're throwing out some

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Speaker 3: bangers on the segments.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you got that. You got that.

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Speaker 2: Is AP going to join for that? Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: So you got that to look forward to. You also

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Speaker 2: There he is serious.

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Speaker 3: AP years here twister. Yes all right, buddy felt bad. AP.

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Speaker 5: How are you yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're blown it. We breathe in this smoke.

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Speaker 3: AP. Oh yeah, no.

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Speaker 6: I actually walked into the stadium today with a mask.

650
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Speaker 6: I stepped outside of my apartment initially smelled the fire,

651
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Speaker 6: and I was just like, I no, I'm not going.

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Speaker 3: To do this, So okay, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 6: I put the mask on today and it's been it's

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Speaker 6: been weird going into the city, driving down the shoreway

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Speaker 6: spooky stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, summer in Montana, how it is.

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Speaker 3: Winter in fire season? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see. When you can't see a mountain

661
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Speaker 2: range that's twelve thousand feet high.

662
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Speaker 3: That's you got a problem. That's serious.

663
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Speaker 2: You got a problem on your hands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's do this. We did numbers twenty

665
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Speaker 3: one through forty last week. Today it is the top

666
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Speaker 3: twenty quarterbacks and Chris Sim's his top forty QB rankings

667
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Speaker 3: first and foremost, his top three Mahomes one, Borrow two,

668
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: Josh Allen three, AP. I will start with you, who

669
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Speaker 3: would be number four in your power rankings? I like that?

670
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Could you give it?

671
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's definitely Herbert, And I'm really

672
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 6: not sure if there's a whole lot of an argument

673
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 6: here either. I just I think, first off, Herbert's been

674
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Speaker 6: it has an incredibly strong arm. As we all know,

675
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 6: that's all that he's shown ever since he got to

676
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 6: the NFL a few years ago. He's also been healthy.

677
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 6: I think the big thing that everybody's kind of been

678
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 6: waiting to see with him doesn't really have to do

679
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 6: with him at all, and that's just his receivers staying healthy.

680
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 6: That's the key for Justin Herbert to really take that

681
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 6: next step and officially become a QB. That is right

682
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 6: on par with Joe Burrow, Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen. He's

683
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: maybe a little bit of step below them, but he's

684
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 6: he's right there and he will be there once he

685
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 6: has some healthy receivers.

686
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: I also think he needs a coach, Bo Bishop, who

687
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: would be your number four?

688
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: No, I think that's the right one. The only thing

689
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: that's just kind of strange. I mean it is strange,

690
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: like he's twenty five and twenty four as a starter

691
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: and they have a good they've had a great roster.

692
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a lot of dudes.

693
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: And he actually did take a decent step back last

694
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: year just statistically twenty five touchdowns, ten picks after coming

695
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: off of a thirty eight and fifteen. Now, they had

696
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: guys injured, especially receivers. They were beat up there a lot.

697
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: He was down twenty yards and yards per game. I

698
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: think it's the right guy. I think the first three

699
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: are clearly the first three, and then he starts a group.

700
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: And if I'm going to say like the one thing,

701
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: I would say here, as I'm looking at his like,

702
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: I think Lawrence, I'll say this. I think Lawrence is

703
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: gonna by the time we get to this season and

704
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: throw into it. I think Lawrence will be closer to

705
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Herbert maybe than Herbert is. To borrow Mahomes and now

706
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: one like that. I think there's a line there between

707
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: the first three and the next couple. Zigir, Look, he's great.

708
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm a big, big Herbert guy. I think he is.

709
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: Really I think he's I think that he is. He's

710
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: got the size, he got the arm.

711
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: But I think that we're being a little disrespectful to

712
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodcher.

713
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: I was waiting for somebody, thank you.

714
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: I have a problem with Aaron Rodgers had what was

715
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: considered by his standards to be a horrific year last year.

716
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Speaker 3: I was just I have the numbers in front.

717
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: Sixty five percent, thirty seven hundred, twenty six and twelve.

718
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: The two years before that were seventy percent forty three hundred,

719
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: forty eight and five, and then sixty nine percent forty

720
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Speaker 4: one hundred thirty seven and four. So the two years

721
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Speaker 4: before that he had thrown eighty five touchdowns versus nine picks.

722
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Speaker 4: Give me, I don't think if, for example, if if

723
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Speaker 4: Herbert were taken off the Chargers and put onto the Jets,

724
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Speaker 4: I don't know that we're thinking of them as the

725
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: Super Bowl contenders that we are with Rogers. Obviously it

726
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: would be a massive upgrade. You think they'd be great.

727
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Speaker 4: And I'm a big Herbert guy. But Aaron Rodgers.

728
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Speaker 3: Twenty six and twelve with nothing, And I.

729
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Think last year he was pretty disgruntled and pretty moody

730
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: and all of those things. And maybe that's being factored

731
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Speaker 4: in by Chris Funny.

732
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: Give me his numbers again last year last year, which

733
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: are similar to.

734
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Speaker 2: Herbert's, right, Yeah, why when the yards are not in

735
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: the attempt to the percentage sixty five percent to sixty

736
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Speaker 2: eight Okay, thirty.

737
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: Seven hundred yards, twenty six touchdowns, twelve interceptions.

738
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Speaker 2: Okay, so he threw for less. Yeah, but it's not

739
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: crazy different.

740
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: The two years before that, his quarterback rings were one

741
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: twenty one and one twelve, and as they said, he

742
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 4: threw eighty five touchdowns and nine picks.

743
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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know that we talk about that enough.

744
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty twenty one, they get through eighty five

745
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: touchdowns with nine picks.

746
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Speaker 2: He won the MVP back to back, right, I.

747
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: Believe you have that right? I know his first team

748
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 3: All Pro both years. Yeah, it won the MTP both

749
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: those seasons as well. Couldn't win a playoff game though

750
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: on either year.

751
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: Couldn't win the No, they just couldn't. They got the

752
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: NFC championship both times. Man, just Niners got him.

753
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: Niners got him in a game where they scored like

754
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Speaker 4: two points.

755
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that wasn't a championship. I think

756
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: that was like a divisional round at best.

757
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: Well, they would have had a buye. Yeah, that's good question.

758
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: Good question.

759
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if they've won it. If you might

760
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: be right given that they haven't won a playoff game

761
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: in a while. Are you looking at upsy?

762
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 7: No?

763
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: But what here?

764
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 4: Hold on, let's see they went one in one in

765
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, so he did win one playoff game in

766
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

767
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: They lost twenty nine. They lost that game to the Niners.

768
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: So that was the decisional game three or something, and

769
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: the year before they lost to the Rammets.

770
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the two years prior he threw four in in

771
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: a grand total of four games. He threw for eleven

772
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: hundred yards, nine touchdowns and three picks in four games.

773
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Speaker 3: Quarterback great one oh five. I still think he I

774
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: he's my number four. That's I'd still put him at four.

775
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 2: He's got him all the way down at eight. Yeah,

776
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean there's there's you know, like he's got him

777
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: three spots behind Lamar like.

778
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: Correct, that's a little silly, that's silly. Next higher, all right,

779
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: we go to our guy. He comes in at number nine,

780
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: DeShawn Watson boh Bishop high or lower, just right.

781
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: So it's the hardest evaluation on the whole list because

782
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 2: you're you're saying what he was two years ago, which

783
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: we believe is in there, and he's in the list

784
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: we just talked about. He's in the top five in

785
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: the league. Yes, if he's that guy, yep, right, yep.

786
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: But didn't play a year and then didn't play eleven games,

787
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: so we have the six game thing, which was awkward

788
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: for everybody, including him. I'm going to tell you what

789
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: I think Sims actually gets this the sweet spot. I

790
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: think this is about right. I think this is about

791
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: where DeShawn should be. I think it's a nice balance

792
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: of last year is really rough and rougher than I

793
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: think anybody here ever thought, certainly more rough than I

794
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: thought it would be, even though we did warn you

795
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: he's on a video game character. You can't just PLoP

796
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: him in and he's a ninety two overall and a

797
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: way you go. So I think this, I think nine

798
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: is a good mix of the real truth on what

799
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: he is and the reality of we just haven't seen

800
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: it in a while.

801
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: Kunder Green Moore, I think it's it's it's fair.

802
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: I don't think you'd put him against ahead of right

803
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: now the people ahead of him.

804
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 3: I do think that by the end of the year,

805
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: if he.

806
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: Does what we believe he will do, he will be

807
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 4: in the top four.

808
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you're not to God's ears.

809
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if he's what he was two years ago,

810
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: he's coming. He's right with Alan Burrough Mahomes, Yes, there's

811
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: no doubt, and he's and Rogers. I think you know,

812
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: Rogers would have to.

813
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that, and shout out to

814
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: Chris Simms for being the one national journalist that's giving

815
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: him some kudos.

816
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: Sims not a journalist, to be fair, pundit, pundit.

817
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 3: He's a media analysts. Let's put it that way. I'll

818
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: tell you what if Danny Dimes.

819
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: If Danny Dimes plays to his rating on here, that

820
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: will be what do you think of giants next?

821
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: Higher or lower? All right, so you know the top

822
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: four number five is Lamar Jackson, ap higher, lower or

823
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: just right?

824
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you guys mentioned it when we were talking

825
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 6: about Aaron Rodgers, but I would have him lower on

826
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 6: this list. I'd probably have him around eight or even nine.

827
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 6: I think he just needs to be more consistent. He

828
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 6: obviously needs to stay healthy. We had that conversation too

829
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 6: last week about Tua, and I think the health does

830
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 6: factor in the Simson's rankings here, so, but he needs

831
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 6: to stay healthy. I think the added playmakers will help

832
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 6: him a lot this year. This is probably the best

833
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 6: receiving cast he's had since joining the Ravens, but he's

834
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 6: three years removed from his MVP season now and he

835
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 6: hasn't really played all that close to it. I feel

836
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 6: like people are kind of like hanging on to that

837
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 6: when they're doing these QB rankings, and when Lamar is

838
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 6: as high as number five, they still have that season

839
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 6: in the back of their heads. But the truth is

840
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 6: he really hasn't played that close to that level since then,

841
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 6: and so I would probably bump him between Like I'd

842
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 6: say seven eight nine. He's in the top ten for sure,

843
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 6: but i'd have him in seven eight nine range.

844
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: Bishop, it's too high. I agree, too high.

845
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Much of what we what I just said about DeShawn

846
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: you could apply to Lamar, Like he doesn't get through

847
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: seasons yep.

848
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: Healthy.

849
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: So there's no way that I would have him above

850
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: Lawrence or Hurts or Rogers or DeShawn. Honestly, like I

851
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: would have that. And look, all of this should also

852
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: be followed with this. I still think he's went healthy.

853
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: He's the toughest game plan in the league yep. Week

854
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 2: to week when you're not used to seeing it. It's

855
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: a a full day that you have to change a

856
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: full day. Yeah, So, like, I'm still incredibly appreciate of

857
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: his talent. It's just that this is also an all

858
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: time era for the quarterback position in the league, So

859
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: he does need to go down.

860
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, show me that you can play in December, buddy.

861
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: Look, he's averaged over sixty yards rushing a game in

862
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: four straight seasons. He averages over six yards of carry

863
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: for his career. Last year was six point eight, which

864
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: was the second highest of his career. He's led the

865
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: league in rushing yards per carry twice.

866
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: Last year.

867
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: He is much better than two years ago seventeen touchdown

868
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: seven picks, two years ago sixteen and thirteen. Again, the

869
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: question with him is what is the ceiling?

870
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 3: Right?

871
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: Can he to me to be a top five quarterback

872
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: in the league. I need you to be able to

873
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: thrive in all situations. I need you to be as

874
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: dangerous on third and ten as you are on second

875
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: and five. And I don't believe that he is now.

876
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: He can be because of his legs. But I'm talking

877
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: about throwing it when they know you need to throw it.

878
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things you ever said out

879
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: loud on the radio.

880
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: Thanks. I love that.

881
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: I use that all the time. Can you throw it

882
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: when they know you're throwing it? Yeah, it's the whole league.

883
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: I love that line out of you. It is the

884
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 2: league and the whole operation. I don't think that's his

885
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: skill set.

886
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: I think that his skills he is great and I'm

887
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: not knocking his ability to throw at all. And they've

888
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: tried to get him some weapons this year and we'll

889
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: see what happens. But at the end of the day,

890
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 4: I think there are eight nine quarterbacks that can do that.

891
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: And he is not amongst them.

892
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: And so he and Jalen Hurts are kind of in

893
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: some ways in that regard similar. But I felt like,

894
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: and you could correct me if I'm wrong, but I

895
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: felt like Jalen Hurts demonstrated last year an ability to

896
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 4: make more big time throws in those types of situations. Yeah,

897
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: albeit a better supporting cast with aj Brown, with the

898
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: Avonte Smith, with Dallas Goddard. But you know, he completed

899
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: sixty seven percent of his passes. He averaged eight yards

900
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 4: an attempt, and he averaged over eight and a half

901
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: yards air yards per attempt. Lamar Jackson was under seven

902
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 4: on both, So that's a completely different passing cell. You're

903
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: talking about a yard and a half almost two yards

904
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: more in the air per attempt and then over a

905
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: yard per attempt of success. YEP, I almost I personally

906
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 4: would put Jalen Hurts ahead of him. I think Jalen

907
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: Hurts right now is every bit is dynamic a runner,

908
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 4: and he's stronger, which makes him a goal line threat.

909
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 4: The guys rush for twenty three touchdowns the last two years, thirteen,

910
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: last year, ten, the year before. I think Jalen Hurts

911
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: is a better version right now of Lamar Jackson, which

912
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: is something that would have been preposterous to say out

913
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 4: loud years.

914
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: He's probably not as fast as dynamic a runner, but

915
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: he's a stronger, run stronger, So that's yeah. I have Yeah,

916
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: As I said, I he's.

917
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: A better throat.

918
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: I have Lamar down.

919
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: Next, higher, core, lower, Trevor Lawrence is number six. It

920
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: takes us to number seven and Lamar Jecks. I'm sorry,

921
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. Sorry wrong, Nate's right, we were talking about

922
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: him both, yep. Nathan Zegera, Jalen Hurts higher lower or

923
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: just right?

924
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: Definitely, I would say higher. I think that he is

925
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: better than what we saw now. He is in a

926
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: great system, he's got great weapons. But the throws he

927
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: made last year some were absolutely beautiful balls, and you

928
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: saw that their offense with Gardner Minshew, who can throw,

929
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: it did not live up to where it was when

930
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: he was the quarterback. So if he continues his ascent,

931
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 4: and when I talk about a cent, I talk about trends, right,

932
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: And if you go from Lamar's MVP season over the

933
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: last three years, and then you look at Jalen Hurts

934
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: over three years, Hurts his completion percentages going up every year.

935
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 4: His touchdown passes have gone up every year. His touchdown

936
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: interception ratio has gotten better every year. His yards per

937
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: attempt have gotten better every year. His air yards per

938
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: attempt have gotten better every year. His rating has gotten

939
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: better every year. His QBR has gotten better every year.

940
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: Lamar's trajectory is actually different than that two years ago

941
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: would have been the twenty twenty one season would have

942
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: been his lows. He bounced back a little bit, but

943
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: still not to his highs. So Jalen Hurts feels like

944
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: an ascending player to me, and so just on that alone,

945
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: I would put him ahead of Lamar Jackson. But I

946
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: think if you were saying, would I rather draft Jalen

947
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 4: Hurts today or Trevor Lawrence, I'd still take Trevor.

948
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: Lawrence ap higher lower destroy for mister Hurts.

949
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 6: I think those are all very strong points from Sagare,

950
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: and I agree with them. I would also have Jalen

951
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 6: Hurts on this list. I would have him above Lamar

952
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 6: Jackson and Trevor Lawrence. Maybe would still put him behind

953
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 6: potentially Aaron Rodgers based on the arguments you guys were

954
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: saying with him earlier, which I also thought was very strong.

955
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 6: But look, Hurts was a guy that just took his

956
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 6: team to the Super Bowl and was second an MVP

957
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 6: to the guy that he lost the Super Bowl in.

958
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 6: He belongs higher in this list and seven for those reasons.

959
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 6: I think he's the top sticks at best quarterback in

960
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 6: this league.

961
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 5: Seven.

962
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 6: That's probably the maximum where you could reasonably put him

963
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 6: on a list like this. I would definitely have him higher.

964
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 6: He's been playing better than Lamar Jackson. I think he

965
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 6: has been playing better than Trevor Lawrence too. I agree

966
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 6: with your point to I would probably take Trevor Lawrence

967
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 6: s over Jalen Hurts in a draft, but on this list,

968
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 6: I still think he might be hire it based on

969
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 6: how he played last year.

970
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: I guess I am going to be way in the

971
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: minority on this, but okay, you had a great year

972
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: taking nothing away from you. You took your team to

973
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. Yeah, can you do it two years

974
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: in a row? Now that there's plenty of tape.

975
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: On it, I think it's valid. He's also got to coordinator.

976
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: You've got to show me.

977
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: He's playing behind the best offensive line in football. They

978
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: have as many weapons as everybody except for the Niners.

979
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: Like he has been curated. I mean the position he's

980
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: in is so nurturing that. But that doesn't take away

981
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: he still had to do it, correct, But I do

982
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: so like if you say to yourself, if I mean, like,

983
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: if Lawrence was in Philly from the beginning, what would

984
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: that look like?

985
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Correct? Yeah?

986
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: Right, if Herbert was in Philly from the beginning, if

987
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: you know so, Like, he's been in the.

988
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: Perfect spot to grow.

989
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: Just remember though they he gass eyes for drafting him

990
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 4: in the second round, saying, oh, Carson Wentz and Howie

991
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: Roastman to his credit, obviously good selection there, and it

992
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: certainly is paid off.

993
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: And it's we sat right there eleven months ago and

994
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: that team walked in and we go they got everything.

995
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: But can hurts go? And even there said that we

996
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: didn't know.

997
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: Nobody knew that nobody knew he could go.

998
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: He showed you some glimpses in twenty one of it,

999
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: but it wasn't to this level. And then all of

1000
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, then he's he's cooking with gas.

1001
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: Am I wrong in saying your known commodities Mahomes, Burrow,

1002
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: Allen and I would put Rogers in there. Show me

1003
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: he's are Herbert Lamar, Lawrence hurts our guy at Stafford.

1004
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: If you're talking the top ten.

1005
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: Stafford's in a different I have him in kind of

1006
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: like his own thing with.

1007
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: Him, But you you're healthy.

1008
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: I think I think the rest of those guys. I

1009
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: think Lawrence is going to go nuts this year.

1010
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah you should.

1011
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: I think he's going to go nuts, like two years

1012
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: of competent coaching.

1013
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: Yep.

1014
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: Ridley gets paratrooped in out of nowhere. They already had

1015
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: weapons at the end, fully formed. I mean, I think

1016
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: I think he goes nuts in the cut I do

1017
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: I think he really elevates.

1018
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: Next higher or lower we mentioned it. Rogers eight, Watson nine,

1019
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: number ten, Matthew Stafford, bo Bishop.

1020
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: Can I just aside from this ranking, I think that

1021
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: that dude is one of the most fascinating touchdowns in

1022
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: the league this year because I do not understand why

1023
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: he would want to play on that team that they've constructed. Furthermore,

1024
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why that team would want a healthy

1025
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford to play for them, right. They to me

1026
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: feel like a team that's going to the bottom and

1027
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: trying to flip quickly and get back into the mix

1028
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: with one of these quarterbacks in next year. This roster

1029
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 2: is awful, it's bad. So is he somebody that gets

1030
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: dealt at some point? I'll say this, if he's healthy.

1031
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: If he's healthy, then he's as good as anybody on

1032
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: this list other than Burrow and Mahomes. And I mean

1033
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: he's at the when he's healthy.

1034
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1035
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's it's an elbow, man. He was

1036
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: really good two years ago.

1037
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: He was still led the league in interceptions with seventeen.

1038
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: I like Matt Stafford a lot. I think he needs

1039
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 4: to be in a good situation like he was in

1040
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. I agree with you. He's somebody that

1041
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: I would want in Miami. If I were the Miami Dolphins,

1042
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 4: I would definitely want them.

1043
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: But how old is he?

1044
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: He's getting up there, man, he's getting up there now

1045
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 4: he is a thirty five.

1046
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: Oh and he's an old thirty because he took a lot.

1047
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: Of beatings, beatings in Detroit, absolute beatings.

1048
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Next, So he's.

1049
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: Last five years like twenty one was a huge outlier.

1050
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: Not say that those Detroit teams were good, but twenty

1051
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 4: one was a big outlier for him in terms of.

1052
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: His He was pretty good in twenty for that roster.

1053
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, all right, here comes the interesting part of

1054
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: this conversation. We've talked about the top ten quarterbacks number eleven,

1055
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, number twelve, Kirk Cousins, thirteen is Dak Prescott

1056
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: ap number fourteen, Russell Wilson higher lower or just right?

1057
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he is also somebody who is pretty

1058
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 6: hard to locate or correctly locate on this list here.

1059
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 6: I would drop him personally. I would drop him behind

1060
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 6: Gino Smith and Jared Golf And I'm just not as

1061
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 6: high on him as I think a lot of people

1062
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 6: are for him for what he did last year. I

1063
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 6: don't think it's a slam dunk. He'll bounce back with

1064
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 6: a head coaching change, And if I bounce back, I

1065
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 6: mean play at the same level he was at with

1066
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 6: the Seahawks. I think it can still be a good quarterback.

1067
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to be a great quarterback

1068
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 6: that is going to lead the Broncos the same way

1069
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 6: he did with the Seahawks. Now, look, maybe he'll come

1070
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 6: back and I'll play really well and he'll do great.

1071
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 6: But until he proves that after last season, I think

1072
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 6: he's a very middle of the pack QB who belong

1073
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 6: as behind, belongs behind the qbs who had career best

1074
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 6: years last year, and that's Gina Smith and Jared Goff'.

1075
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. No, no, what do you got?

1076
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean the same way that it was.

1077
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: I'll go back to this is to use AP's lodge

1078
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: against him, the same way he's blamed coaching for Trevor

1079
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 4: Lawrence's first year and then was like, oh, now that

1080
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: he's got good coaching, look at him in a second year.

1081
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson had arguably the worst coaching in the league

1082
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: last year. I think he's going to bounce back. I

1083
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: am again, let me just state I've never been a

1084
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson guy at all. I don't particularly care for

1085
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: the guy, but he's really good. They've got talent they're

1086
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: gonna have a coach that's gonna bring it out of him.

1087
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: And now he's gone to the point where he used

1088
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: to be Russell Wilson, and he went from.

1089
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: Underrated way way overrated.

1090
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 4: And now he's being like dismissed, like he's a Jabroni

1091
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: on the corner and he's not.

1092
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be just fine. Bishop any thoughts.

1093
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: I align more with z on this in the standpoint

1094
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: of of he is now going he's going to go

1095
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: from a bad spot to the If I'll say this,

1096
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: he's going to be in a hell of a spot

1097
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: to succeed.

1098
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, like they're gonna If he can't do it,

1099
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: I can't do it here.

1100
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: You know. The one thing I do wonder about him, though,

1101
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: is how much of his you know, if you think

1102
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: about like when he was at his best. I mean,

1103
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 2: he made what five straight Pro Bowls? He's nine times.

1104
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: Nine out of ten, nine out of ten Pro Bowls.

1105
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you think about when he was at

1106
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: his best. I think about like eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one,

1107
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: like twenty really, let Russ cooks cookyears. You know, he's

1108
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: a sixty five to sixty eight percent passer. It's thirty

1109
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: five and seven, thirty one and five, forty and thirteen.

1110
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: One thing he always did was protect the ball, yep,

1111
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 2: like he was pretty good at that. He takes sacks.

1112
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: The one thing that I do think has happened to

1113
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: his game where there's been a regression, is he's not

1114
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: as dynamic as he used to be. Like he used

1115
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: to be someone who you'd fear running it. Now it

1116
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: feels like he's far more prone to take sacks. And

1117
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: not even just last year in Denver, but also his

1118
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: last year in Seattle, where he took a lot of

1119
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: bad sacks. So he's not what he was, but he's

1120
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: still a lot better than I think. I think you're right.

1121
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: I think it's gone the wrong way on him. There's

1122
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: been an over over correction.

1123
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: All right, final thing here. Mac Jones was twenty, Kyler

1124
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: Murray nineteen, Derek Carr eighteen, Golf seventeen, Tannahill sixteen, Gino

1125
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: Smith fourteen. Any thoughts takeaways, AP, I'll start with you.

1126
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 6: I think Tanna Hills ranked too highly on this list.

1127
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 6: I just I don't think he's going to ever become

1128
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 6: the quarterback he was a couple of years ago when

1129
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 6: the Titans were competing for the AFC. I think injuries, age, everything,

1130
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 6: sixteen seems too high on this list. I would have

1131
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 6: him behind Golf, behind car maybe behind Murray. I guess

1132
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 6: there could be an argument there. That's what stands out

1133
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 6: to me. I think everything else in the middle of

1134
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 6: this list is I think fairly correctly placed.

1135
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: Zigara I agree on the Tannehill.

1136
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking about a guy that is wonderful

1137
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: when the running game's going good, wonderful when they've got

1138
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: the lead. But when he's got a throw when they

1139
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: know he's got to throw it, not great. And I

1140
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 4: think that's where you see quarterbacks like that, where they

1141
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: then go when they struggle a little bit in the playoffs,

1142
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: and you look at last year or the last Tea

1143
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: was in the playoffs twenty twenty one. Three picks in

1144
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: that game against Cincinnati where they lost, and that really

1145
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: just kind of set them off in a tough, tough spot.

1146
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: The other guy that, I guess I'm more curious about

1147
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 4: the ranking, And I look, the Giants obviously felt that

1148
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: he was deserving of it.

1149
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: They gave him a monster contract.

1150
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 4: But is Danny Dimes Danny dimes last year sixty seven

1151
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: percent completion's career highest completion percentage improved every year, But

1152
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: we're talking about in his best year, he threw for

1153
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: thirty two hundred yards at fifteen touchdowns, only five picks.

1154
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: That's wonderful, but that feels.

1155
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: Odd to me.

1156
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: He's never been over seven yards per attempt, never been

1157
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 4: over seven air yards per attempt in his career. Does

1158
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: he give you a little sum with his legs? Yes,

1159
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 4: he does. Last year career high seven hundred and eight yards,

1160
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: seven touchdowns rushing. The year before though in eleven games

1161
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 4: two ninety eight his previous career I was four to

1162
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 4: twenty three. So was that an outlier or is that

1163
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: something they're going to do more of with him? And

1164
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 4: what's the longevity of that? But is he a guy

1165
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 4: that can step back there and just throw the ball

1166
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: when you need it?

1167
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 3: And the answer to that, I don't. I don't know.

1168
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1169
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: That one's that's probably that. Remember the last time he

1170
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: did this, it was we were talking about Mac Jones

1171
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: cor and just like, wait, what, that's how I felt

1172
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: about Dan Jones being here at eleven I don't think

1173
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: I think I would rather have golf than Jones. Honestly, yeah, yes,

1174
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: so I don't understand that. I definitely rather have Car

1175
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: than Jones. Kyler is a total wild card to me.

1176
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure what his give a damn

1177
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: level is or any of that. I think he's got

1178
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: Geno a little too high on this based off of

1179
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: the one year. And I've never been a Cousin's guy.

1180
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: I just he feels like a he feels like a

1181
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: fantasy quarterback. I don't know if he's a real one,

1182
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 2: but he's they went, he benefits, they've he's won a lot.

1183
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: He's better than you think. But then also, like you

1184
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: wait for like moments and I don't know where those

1185
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: are either, like has he ever been somebody the team's won,

1186
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 2: because it doesn't feel like it feels like you can

1187
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: win with him, But I don't know that you can

1188
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: win because of him as kind.

1189
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: Of and that is higher or lower.

1190
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: To wrap up the off season, there you go, good

1191
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: job out of u.

1192
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: AP.

1193
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 6: Appreciate it guys as always, Hi.

1194
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: Buddy, We'll see on the other side. Right it's when

1195
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: we'll see APNX on the other side of things. We

1196
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: will no longer be at the undisclosed. All right, second

1197
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: hour coming up next, go around the league. You'll hear

1198
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: from ab and Quasi as well in this second hour

1199
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Speaker 2: of the program, and the top twenty five players under

1200
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: twenty five.

1201
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: We get to that.

1202
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,560
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1212
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: Just tragic news out of the South today the passing

1213
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: of Ryan Mallett, former NFL quarterback and Arkansas razorback. Michigan

1214
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: Wolverine quarterback Ryan Mallett drowned. This was in North Florida, right.

1215
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: There's not many details on it other than that that

1216
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: he had passed this morning. I was I covered his

1217
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl against Ohio State when he let Arkansas to

1218
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl with Bobby Petrino. Nice kid and was

1219
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: a He was next in line at Lloyd Carr State

1220
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: at Michigan. He was the quarterback that would have followed

1221
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: Chad Henny and they would have kept that run going. Instead,

1222
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: they pushed him out. They brought in Rich Rodriguez, and

1223
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 2: Rich Rodriguez said, I don't want prototypical quarterbacks. I want

1224
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: guys who can run, and so he ran off Mallet,

1225
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: which was the stupidest thing ever to do.

1226
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure that I was on the sidelines

1227
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: for his first start, which came as a member of

1228
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: the Houston Texans against the Browns. Okay, And I'm pretty

1229
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 4: also pretty sure that his first touchdown pass was a

1230
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 4: goal line pass to TJ.

1231
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: Watt really or JJ Watt j JJR JJ Watt of

1232
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: the Houston Texas. Yeah, he beat it playing tight end.

1233
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: That was the game. It was cold, where like cold

1234
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: weather Houston's coming up here, gon be this is good.

1235
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: We got it. We got w Cummings and JJ Watt

1236
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: walked out in like an undershirt and shorts and was

1237
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 3: doing snow angels, and I'm like, well, we're dead, all.

1238
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 4: Right, So I have there as the years twenty fourteen,

1239
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 4: it was my first year on the sideline and he

1240
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 4: his first start came against the Browns and he beat

1241
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: the Browns over that game.

1242
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: Let's see if I can get the final.

1243
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: Score here was it twenty three to fourteen? He beat

1244
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 4: the brown twenty three to seven to seven. And in

1245
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: that game, Yeah, his first ever touchdown pass was to J. J. Watt,

1246
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 4: who played goal line tight end for them, and that

1247
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 4: was in the first quarters, a two yard pass from

1248
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: Ryan Mallet. It was down in the dog bound end zone.

1249
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 4: Then we caught up and then he threw a touch

1250
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 4: twenty yarder to Garrett Graham three field goals later twenty

1251
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: three seven Loan scoring for the Browns was Brian Hohir

1252
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: and Andrew Hawkins. Yeah, we got smoked. And that's when

1253
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: they just went to the like the free fall, right,

1254
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 4: because it was that twenty fourteen team was seven and

1255
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: four at one point they win one more. They were

1256
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: six and three going into that game. The Texans were

1257
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: four and five and we got smoked.

1258
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: Wasn't he always? And you guys were boots on the

1259
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: ground here at that point. I wasn't up here then,

1260
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: But wasn't he always? Somebody that Browns fans are like

1261
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: trade for Mallet? Like everybody always wanted to back up

1262
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: after Matt cous was good, you know, and went to

1263
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: Keyota City. Everyone's like, you know, get the backup in

1264
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: New England. And then it felt like Bill like overplayed

1265
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: his hand with him, like he waited too long, yeah,

1266
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: to trade him, Like there was always this intrigue around him.

1267
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: And then they held on, held on hill On, and

1268
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: then eventually they I don't remember that. I don't think

1269
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: they got too much for him.

1270
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 4: Not third round of the twenty eleven draft, and then

1271
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen he goes to Houston, and then fifteen it's

1272
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: Houston and Baltimore. Then he was with the Ravens for

1273
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 4: sixteen seventeen, so stay in like six years. Yeah, but yeah,

1274
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: that's the ocean is scary. I got, I got, yeah, Man,

1275
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 4: as I get older and we're talking, you know, Ryan Mallett,

1276
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 4: professional athlete. What happened with Peyton hillis he's a hero

1277
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: and but almost took his life. There's a guy who

1278
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 4: was a professer, Shad Gaspard in La The Ocean's scary.

1279
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: We were down in I want to say Juno Beach

1280
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 4: for spring break.

1281
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: I want to say twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen

1282
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 3: in that range, and I remember we were out there

1283
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: one day and I was just like, man, this is

1284
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: just it's horrifying.

1285
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah it is. It is not a lake, it's not

1286
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 4: a pool. It is wild. Forget just that the creatures

1287
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 4: that are in there. But I'm talking about like the

1288
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: power of the way is the power of an undertow,

1289
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: and it's it's very scary, and you got it's you

1290
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 4: gotta have a very healthy respect because there have been

1291
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 4: so many tragedies and I think you said in that

1292
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 4: area there have been like ten.

1293
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: Between since uh let's see since where is it uh

1294
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: In the past nine days, eight rip current related deaths.

1295
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: That's outrageous.

1296
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: Close they are once a day.

1297
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: That's where coal is.

1298
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: That's my favorite.

1299
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: That's thirty a.

1300
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: That's watercolors, just that that's destined the Panama City, that

1301
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: whole area. I mean, the beaches are the best I

1302
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: think in the country.

1303
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: There.

1304
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: It's powdered sugar, white sand and emerald water. That is awesome.

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Speaker 2: But they do get as evidence there violent rip curds,

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01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: rip tides, and you they they do a pretty good

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Speaker 2: job of saying stay out of the water, like they'll

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Speaker 2: double red it, they'll put the flags and they'd say

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Speaker 2: they find Oh, yeah, they will come at but there's

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: it's too much dam beachfront to police. Yeah, so at

1311
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: some point you have to think for yourselves a little bit.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Saturday in Panama, on Panama City Beach alone, in a

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Speaker 3: five hour stretch, thirty nine rescues, three deaths. Wow, like

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Speaker 3: get out of go to the pool. Yeah, get out

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Speaker 3: of the water. That's crazy. You can't.

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Speaker 4: And the one thing that people I think, just just

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Speaker 4: because I've read a bunch about this, following a couple

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Speaker 4: of you know, that became very popular public tragedies, and

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Speaker 4: as somebody who's I'd been caught in a rip current

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Speaker 4: once before, and people think you got it. You try

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Speaker 4: to fight it and swim your way back in.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 4: You've got to go parallel to the shore. You go

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Speaker 4: parallel to the shore until you get out of the

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Speaker 4: rip current, and then you can go back in towards

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Speaker 4: the shore. But you can't. You can't go against you

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: can't fight it. You will not win, you will lose.

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Speaker 4: You will lose. So you've got to go parallel and

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01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: then then you'll be able to get outside of the

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01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: rip current and you'll be able to get back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was before we got on air until the

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Speaker 2: story down to the Bahamas where I was with with

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Speaker 2: Beamsy and I just threw him because if you one

1335
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: yanked me and he yanked me god fifty feet by

1336
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Speaker 2: the time, and the only thing that kept me from

1337
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: staying under was I hit a sandbar and that popped

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Speaker 2: me up.

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01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, had no clue where I was.

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01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's hitting somebody like you and it's

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01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: having that effect on you, and you're the type of

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Speaker 2: swimmer you were, I mean, imagine every well, there's no

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Speaker 2: beating it.

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Speaker 4: The panic is here's the thing. Rip currents don't pull

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Speaker 4: people underwater. Now pull you away from the shore. Yeah,

1346
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 4: so know that that's not it's not going to pull

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01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: you underwater. But what people panic in what they do

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01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 4: is then they try to swim against it, and then

1349
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: waves are crashing over them. Then they get pulled, and

1350
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 4: then you get discombobulated, and then you end up in

1351
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: a very bad situation. But if you can say calm

1352
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: once again, pulls you out, that's fine. Just relax and

1353
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 4: then just swim along the shore. You can pick either

1354
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 4: direction and once you get outside, you'll know you're outside

1355
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 4: of the rip current. It feels kind of follow the waves,

1356
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 4: follow the waves back in.

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's hard to have that.

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 3: It's hard to have.

1359
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 2: But that's that's the only way. Yes, I am seeing

1360
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: this from an NFL news perspective. Shifter with this, a

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01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: handful of NFL players, including the Colts Isaiah Rodgers, are

1362
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: expected to receive season long suspensions this week for violating

1363
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: the NFL's policy on gambling. Out of Shifter reporting that what.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing? How do you not know the rule?

1365
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the deal. Why do you think you

1366
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: can circumnavigate it if you do know the rule?

1367
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't think people are I don't think that a

1368
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: lot of these guys are listening clear when people are

1369
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: telling them what the rules are. I think a lot

1370
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: of these guys don't understand the severity of it. And

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01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: I think I think there's the one thing that I

1372
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: don't think, so I think you're failing an intelligence test first,

1373
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: and then I think the other part of is there

1374
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: is some ambiguity because it's like, well, wait a second, Like.

1375
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 3: There's officially betting partners.

1376
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: Have every buddy, everybody's got an official betting partner, now,

1377
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: but I can't bet on something that isn't the NFL

1378
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: on my phone in the facility. Like wait, what, like

1379
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: how would you think that you couldn't do that? It

1380
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: almost doesn't make.

1381
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

1382
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: Here is get If one of these people bet on

1383
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: the NFL, then you can you get you deserve. But

1384
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 4: if you're sitting in your car in the parking lot

1385
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 4: of a team facility and you bet on a college whatever,

1386
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: again that those are the rules.

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Speaker 3: I understand it.

1388
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, so that will happen. You know at

1389
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: some point the direct director of the announced renewal and

1390
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: expansion of content with what's going on here, gibe, So

1391
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: what do they get because the Sunday ticket's gone.

1392
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 3: Kind of but not necessarily. Uh, it will be a

1393
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: different version of it. Hold on, I hit my computer

1394
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: is not Uh. It's a multi year renewal of its

1395
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: affiliation agreement that will extend carriage of NFL network on

1396
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: DirecTV and we'll add distribution of NFL network via DirecTV

1397
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 3: stream in Uverse. Also DirecTV will now for the first

1398
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 3: time carry NFL Red Zone across all platforms.

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Speaker 2: It's because they won't have the ticket anymore.

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Speaker 3: Both NFL Network and NFL Red Zone will be available

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01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: on all platforms in the coming weeks.

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01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: Would you guys have guessed, Oh, let's play guest the stats?

1403
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: How long do you think? When do you think Sunday

1404
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: Ticket became a thing? Give me your year Sunday Ticket

1405
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: happens when in my mind.

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Speaker 4: Two thousand and seven. No way earlier than that. I

1407
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 4: think it was around when I was in high school.

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01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 4: But you'd had to go to like a bar to

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01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: watch it. So I'm going to say in ninety I

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 4: remember going to the bar, going to a not a bar,

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: but like a sports bar in ninety four to ninety

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 4: five to watch Jeff George and the Falcons play.

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Speaker 3: So I'll say yet.

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Speaker 2: It September fourth, nineteen ninety four. It's been on Direct

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01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: TV from ninety four until twenty twenty two until last year,

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01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: and then next year it goes to YouTube TV, which

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01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: is I think going to be a mess.

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01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 4: I'd have to go out to Livermore. There was a

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01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 4: sports bar in Livermore. I could go and I could

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Speaker 4: watch the Falcons. Gotch Sunday Ticket.

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Speaker 2: Didn't want to watch the Niners.

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01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 3: I was unhappy with them at the time Pedro Junior. Yeah, well,

1423
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 3: normally I would be able to go.

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: I'd watch the I would watch the Falcons at ten,

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01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: and then I'd be able to come back.

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Speaker 3: And the Niners are beyond at one one. God, that

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Speaker 3: West Coast is amazing, so good for, so good for.

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Speaker 3: Then you get Sunday Football five.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing that's bad for. Let's be honest. True, there's

1430
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Speaker 2: no negatives.

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Speaker 4: Well, all the times that it might end up earthquakes,

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 4: it might.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm talking from a time zone perspective. There is

1434
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: no loss to Mountain or Pacific time none.

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Speaker 3: There's game.

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Speaker 2: They just stack dubs.

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01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, stack dubs.

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Speaker 2: That's all they do to be able to watch the

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Speaker 2: entire day of the NFL and then have a night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, Yeah, that's absolutely elite.

1441
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: All right, So there's where you stand on that. Coming

1442
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Speaker 2: up next ESPN with a round table our IAB is

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Speaker 2: involved and it crises involved as well. We'll have that

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Speaker 2: for you. Coming up next to to Cleveland Browns Daily,

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Speaker 2: with NFL general managers Ran Karthin, Quaesiadolpho Mensa, and our

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: guy ab We obviously two of the three of these

1455
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: guys very very well, let's have a listen.

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Speaker 8: So I'm just going to have you guys kind of

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Speaker 8: detail your journey very quickly. Andre ill start with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 7: So I got my start with the Indianapolis Colt, spent

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Speaker 7: the first seven years of my career in Indy, then

1461
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Speaker 7: transition was the VP of Player Personnel with the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 7: and then we joke took my internship as VP of

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Speaker 7: Football Operations with the Philadelphia Eagles, and then came back

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Speaker 7: here or I'm entering my fourth year as the general

1465
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Speaker 7: manager of the team.

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Speaker 9: I left college and followed a passion for decision making

1467
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Speaker 9: into Wall Street, where I was a trader in commodities,

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Speaker 9: and then you know, the forty nine ers had.

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Speaker 5: A great opportunity for.

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Speaker 9: Me, and I decided to pivot and you know, started

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Speaker 9: in to work in analytics. And that big step that

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Speaker 9: I got to take was because of this man at

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01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 9: my right. I hired me and Cleveland to do a

1474
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 9: job I didn't know that I was capable of doing.

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01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 9: And obviously the Wolves came calling and me and great

1476
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 9: opportunity in Minnesota as the general manager.

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Speaker 10: Played three years out of college, kind of bounced around,

1478
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 10: you know, five teams in three years. Quickly knew what

1479
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,440
Speaker 10: I wanted to do, which was getting the personnel.

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01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 5: Got hired by the Falcons, worked there for four years.

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01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 10: When Les Neat was hired with the Rams, he brought

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01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 10: me over as director of pro worked under last four

1483
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 10: five years and spent the last six under John Lynch

1484
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 10: and Kyle Shanahan before I got.

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01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 5: This opportunity with the Titans.

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01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 10: You know what this call is about, right then, we're

1487
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 10: going to turn this card in and make you a

1488
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 10: Titan officially.

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 7: Man, I know Cleveland doesn't have the same weather as La,

1490
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 7: but you think you.

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Speaker 3: Want to come back.

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 9: We're excited about everything you're going to bring to us.

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01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: Congratulations, men, it's a big day.

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 8: So what were some of the challenges that you encountered

1495
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 8: on your way here.

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Speaker 9: I didn't know anything, and I think that intimidates a

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01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 9: lot of people, But for me, it was this great

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 9: opportunity because I walked into a lot of rooms and

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 9: nobody thought I should know anything, so they were just

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Speaker 9: willing to teach me. And and I got the ability

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 9: to learn from great teachers. Ran and I get to

1502
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 9: sit in Ram's office and he'd teached me about play

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01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 9: level things. So I think I took something that was

1504
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 9: hard for a lot of people and turned it into

1505
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 9: a positive.

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 7: I wasn't necessarily like a football guy because I believe

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 7: in data and I kind of you know, I graduated

1508
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 7: from Harvard. But I also wasn't necessarily like a quote

1509
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 7: unquote analytics guy because I just wasn't as smart as that.

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01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 7: That's why higher crazy, right, And So there was a point,

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Speaker 7: probably many points in my career where I probably had

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 7: a little bit of this like insecurity of like do

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01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 7: I really belong in either of these worlds? Ultimately I

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01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 7: overcame and realized that like living in parts of both

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Speaker 7: really probably helped me better.

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Speaker 5: As I got later in my.

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Speaker 10: Career, I'd say for me, right, just off the fact,

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Speaker 10: if you say a former player, I automatically get put

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Speaker 10: in this box.

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01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 5: Right. So the football guy, if you will.

1521
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 10: On some people it's a badge, but at other places

1522
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 10: it's a hindrance. I've always felt like every interview room

1523
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 10: I had to walk into, I had to show that

1524
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 10: I was more than just a football guy.

1525
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1526
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 9: Eric Banamy is with the Kansas City Chiefs the last

1527
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 9: five years.

1528
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 3: They won two Super Bowls, and he has.

1529
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 9: To go somewhere else to become a coordinator.

1530
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 3: That doesn't even sound right.

1531
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 8: I imagine the challenge for black general managers is the assumption

1532
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 8: that Okay, a black GM is in that spot, so

1533
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 8: naturally he's going to hire a black head coach. I'll

1534
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 8: just start with Quacy. Last year, you guys had at

1535
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 8: the Vikings, had an opportuny to hire head coach. You

1536
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 8: went with Kevin O'Connell.

1537
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: Why Kevin?

1538
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 9: You know, Kevin was an incredible candidate. I had been

1539
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 9: so fortunate to be around. I was in that San

1540
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 9: Francisco building and I've been around Kyle, so I know

1541
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 9: what it looks like, what it means as somebody who's

1542
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 9: really talented, really competent, and can be a part of

1543
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 9: a good culture and be a culture leader. But at

1544
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 9: the end of the day, my job will always be

1545
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 9: to put the Minnesota Vikings in the best situation. And

1546
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 9: we found Kevin and that's the situation.

1547
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 5: We went with him.

1548
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 9: Were more than throwed with what we did decide.

1549
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 8: One of the prevailing thoughts that I hear often is

1550
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 8: black execs or black coaches always get the reclamation projects.

1551
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 8: What is your thought on that? I love how you

1552
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 8: look at.

1553
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 7: My general view on this is that oftentimes the head

1554
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 7: decision making jobs in an organization, whether it's a team president,

1555
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 7: a general manager, or head coach, are coming open for

1556
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 7: a reason.

1557
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: But that's why it selected you.

1558
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 7: That's why they hired you, and you should embrace that opportunity.

1559
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,480
Speaker 7: You should embrace that challenge.

1560
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 5: I would just say, why would you want anything different? Right?

1561
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 10: If you're coming into a process that the cupboards bear,

1562
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 10: and yes it may not be the best situation, but

1563
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 10: if you indeed apply your skill set and you can

1564
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 10: turn that around, then it's old and a testament to

1565
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 10: what you do versus inheriting a good product that at

1566
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 10: that point it can only go the other way, and

1567
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 10: then you're the blame as to why you couldn't keep

1568
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,919
Speaker 10: it here. It's all about getting the opportunity and embracing

1569
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 10: that challenge, and then just trusting and believe even in

1570
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 10: your preparation.

1571
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 8: I actually want to read a quote from Sandra Douglas Morgan,

1572
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 8: who's the NFL's only black woman president, and upon her hiring,

1573
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 8: she said, I realized in that moment that this job

1574
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 8: is much bigger than me. It gives people hope and

1575
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 8: visibility and optimism that you can strive for it. I'm

1576
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 8: curious if each of you feels that being black men

1577
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 8: in these roles is the job bigger than you, and

1578
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 8: if so.

1579
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 5: How oh absolutely.

1580
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 10: I go back to reading Jerry Reese's bio at the

1581
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 10: time with the Giants, and he said it was important

1582
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 10: for him, as an African American GM.

1583
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 5: To do a good job and leave the.

1584
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 10: Door open for those coming behind in this opportunity.

1585
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 5: I feel the same way.

1586
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 9: The burden, I would say all of us has sort

1587
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 9: of felt at different places in our life being one

1588
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 9: of the only ones and trying not to mess it

1589
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 9: up for the next guy and trying to lift people

1590
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 9: up along with us.

1591
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 7: In the moments of reflection or certainly when you first

1592
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 7: get the job, you feel it has to be pervasive

1593
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 7: or weigh you down, but it also is something where

1594
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 7: you say, hey, look, I want to make sure that

1595
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 7: I can be someone who says an example for others

1596
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 7: that come after me, to be honest with you.

1597
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: I think AB's obviously started a very good legacy here already.

1598
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: He is as you know him better than I, but

1599
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: I've got to know him pretty well through these years,

1600
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: like the best dude ever. He is a selfless dude ever.

1601
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: He's takes care of people.

1602
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at now he's gonna have quacy and I

1603
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 4: think some day Glenn Cook will be a GM and

1604
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 4: they're hoping that Catherine Race can become the first female

1605
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 4: GM in the league. So obviously he's got a tree,

1606
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 4: and I think having some success this year for the Browns,

1607
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 4: I think we'll go a long way towards that tree

1608
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 4: being able to really spread its roots. But he's also

1609
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 4: amazing in the sense that they showed a picture of

1610
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 4: him from when he was a scout with the Colts.

1611
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 4: He's like Benjamin Button. He looks like younger now. It's crazy,

1612
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 4: but he's doing a great job. Quaycy's so awesome and

1613
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed knowing him here. And you know, that's

1614
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 4: obviously I think a CBD Hall of Fame moment when we,

1615
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 4: you know, were able to interview the general manager of

1616
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 4: another team on CBD for he left unreal.

1617
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 3: The first interview.

1618
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: Was it planned or did he just walk by?

1619
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, it was planned. It was kind

1620
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 3: of a weird request.

1621
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: It was planned before he was announced, though, right, Or

1622
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: what was the deal then he kept it? Or did

1623
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: you did we ask after he got it?

1624
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: No, he had already gotten it, but before he left

1625
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: he wanted to come in because we had asked for

1626
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: him before, correct. And I think in part of part

1627
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: of that sometimes is just getting some practice on the

1628
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 3: Q and a part because remember it was one of

1629
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: the big misses during COVID. We never got to know.

1630
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: Him, right, Yeah, Like he was here, and.

1631
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 3: I mean he didn't really have any availability like when

1632
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 3: he got hired, he didn't meet with the media. I

1633
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: mean we were in a we were right in the

1634
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: middle of the full blown pandemic at that point a point,

1635
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: so there is that, but like, don't forget then at

1636
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 3: the combine he's on his way to meet with Minnesota media.

1637
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: He's like, hold on, hop over hop on the headset

1638
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 3: radio row with us. Everybody's like, wait what, Yeah, that's right,

1639
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 3: that's great. Yeah, just easy guys to root for. Yes,

1640
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: good dudes, who are Kisi's in the middle of a

1641
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: He's in the toughs.

1642
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 4: It is fine to go through a rebuild, which is

1643
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: gonna be tough. But at the same time, they're going

1644
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 4: to have a megastar in Justin Jefferson, and so you wonder.

1645
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 4: The weird thing is that it just doesn't feel like

1646
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 4: the right time to be rebuilding in the NFC when

1647
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 4: you've got in the quarterback and they've got Hockkinson and

1648
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 4: they got Madison, who I think will be a very

1649
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 4: good running back for the for the Vikings with Dalvin

1650
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 4: cook on, it's a strange it's a strange place to

1651
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: be in though. Wasa Darius Smith out and people inquiring

1652
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 4: about Daniel Hunter.

1653
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1654
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 4: I don't know how that's ultimately going to play out,

1655
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 4: because it's not like Cousins.

1656
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: Is that old, No, But.

1657
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: I think it's probably like what I said, when we

1658
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 2: you know, like.

1659
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 4: He's like, right, how's he gonna be very good and

1660
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 4: very productive. Better Andy Dalton, that's it better, Andy Dalton.

1661
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you really want to keep paying him? No?

1662
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 3: And that's obviously that's the thing.

1663
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 2: That he's taken you as far as he can take you.

1664
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: It's not enough. You know, You've had these rosters that

1665
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: have been, you know, knocking on the door for fifteen years.

1666
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: It feels like and they you know, so I'm sure

1667
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: there is. I'm sure that they I know that that's

1668
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 2: the plan. But that's tough. Yeah, they to me are

1669
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: a candidate for if some like I don't know, are

1670
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: they a candidate for like Kyler?

1671
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 3: Like what they could?

1672
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: Are they that would flip you know, like if you're Arizona, Like,

1673
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: they're not gonna keep him. They're gonna look for a

1674
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: bit a buyer. I think a discount. He's going to

1675
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 2: be at a dome. You got Jefferson, you know, really

1676
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: bright coach there.

1677
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: I think everything is should be centered around keeping Jefferson happy.

1678
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 3: What does Jefferson want? Yeah?

1679
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but like he probably would get into

1680
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 4: that because Kyler's shown that he knows how to feed

1681
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: the ball to a guy like at DeAndre Hopkins or

1682
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 4: when he's.

1683
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 3: Got a number one or so, yeah, get him the ball.

1684
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 4: No.

1685
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: I to me, that's they seem to be like they're

1686
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: ready for, Like they're the team that's ready for like

1687
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: a quick reset. Yeah, because they have a nott of pieces,

1688
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 2: but it's just hard to get like quarterbacks like don't

1689
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: hit the market, you know, but Kyler is going to

1690
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: be on the market. And if you believe in his

1691
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: skill set, which the skill sets pretty good. If you

1692
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: believe in the skill set, then.

1693
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: Well it's when you got to it's not even just this.

1694
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 4: You got to believe in his ability to live the

1695
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 4: life he must live to be to maximize his skill set. Yes, yeah,

1696
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 4: and Quasy doesn't feel like he's got time for Shenanigans.

1697
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't think so.

1698
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: But they're also the type of team that feels like

1699
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 2: because it's hard for me to imagine they're not. The

1700
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: problem for them is there's a lot of teams in

1701
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: the NFC that are this. It's a combination of two things. One,

1702
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: the NFC is bad, so it's gonna be really hard

1703
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: to take bad in the NFC. And two, their roster's

1704
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: too good to be at the bottom.

1705
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 4: They're too good to be bad and too bad to

1706
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 4: be good.

1707
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: It's nowhere, spill Man.

1708
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 3: That's right.

1709
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: Washington's like that. There's a lot of teams in the

1710
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 2: NFC that are like that, that are in that spot.

1711
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: So you know, it feels like unless you're Arizona, where

1712
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: you are ready and locked into it.

1713
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna they're gonna end up drafting the quarterback and

1714
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior.

1715
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: I think they're're right. I think it's a very good

1716
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: chance they're gonna pick first and third in this thing,

1717
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: which would be crazier.

1718
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 3: One in four.

1719
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna Yeah, they're probably going them both,

1720
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 2: which is which is pretty wild. Yeah, all right, we'll

1721
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 2: do Top twenty five players under twenty five. Coming up next,

1722
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 2: tost to cleveld Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

1725
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Speaker 2: I'll do this now because you know, we may run

1726
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: out of time at the end. So I'm I'm reading

1727
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: the I picked up this book on the way to

1728
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: Charleston last week, Pappy Land, so it's the right Thompson.

1729
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: If you know right.

1730
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: Thompson from ESPN. He does those long form video essays

1731
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: that he does for like the golf stuff, like the

1732
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: Masters that he was their long form writer for a

1733
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: long time. ESPN the magazine one of my favorite writers.

1734
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: He wrote this book, Pappy Land with Julian Van Winkle

1735
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: about the boy, yeah, my guy, about the really like

1736
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: what this guy did to save that bourbon and he

1737
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: really it was, I mean is his dad had lost

1738
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 2: the distillery stitze Weller and eventually like he was holding

1739
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: on too, like literally like barrels of the elixir that

1740
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 2: eventually became they salvage it. He keep putting out barrels,

1741
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: he was buying whiskey from aging him in his barrels

1742
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 2: bottom from wild turkey, all these other things. Eventually gets

1743
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: to a point where he can sell him to He

1744
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: sells to Buffalo Trace and the rest is history.

1745
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 3: Now it's been what it's been.

1746
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: It talks about the big win at the Spirit competition

1747
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: and all that stuff that made people understand.

1748
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 3: What it was all about.

1749
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 2: Long story short, it'su officially endorsed. And the way that Pappy,

1750
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: the Pappy vanwinkled his grandfather yep and then his dad

1751
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: and then he preferred to drink their bourbon, and in

1752
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: a sense, most bourbon is on the rocks with a twist.

1753
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 2: So I'd never ever done that. I'd never heard of it.

1754
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: There's a great excerpt in the book where they talk

1755
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 2: about a twist of lemon lime or lemon lemon lemon.

1756
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: So they tell a great excerpt in the book. They're

1757
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: like this five star restaurant in New York and it's Preston,

1758
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 2: who's Julian's son, and Preston Julian his son, Preston, and

1759
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 2: then a couple of other people, and Preston goes to

1760
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: the bar and he orders, uh, Pappy Van Winkle twenty

1761
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 2: year with a twist, And the bartender's like, I'm sorry,

1762
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: I can't do that.

1763
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:14,879
Speaker 3: I can't.

1764
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 2: I can't put it on rocks. I'm not going to

1765
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 2: put a twist a lemon in it. I don't think

1766
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: that that's we can't do that with this whiskey. Like

1767
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: it's too it's too good, I am, And he goes, well,

1768
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: that guy likes it that way, the guy on the

1769
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 2: label liked it that way, and I like it that way.

1770
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: And exposed to them and it was like, it's hard

1771
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 2: to blame the bartender.

1772
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: No, he's trying to to you, like somebody who's probably like,

1773
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 3: you're about to spend a lot of money.

1774
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: You're to spend a lot of money on it. You're

1775
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: gonna sprints it with a lemon.

1776
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 3: Right.

1777
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 2: So the bartender has a laugh about it, which gets

1778
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: into that other conversation about like how pretentious all of

1779
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: this can be.

1780
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 3: It's a lot of it's nonsensical, and.

1781
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 4: It's amazing though that they would want it.

1782
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 3: So. So a twist, right, is just like a portion

1783
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 3: of the peel, peel, shave of the peel that's twisted.

1784
01:22:59,360 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: That's it.

1785
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: It's the essence of lemon. So it's rocks as opposed

1786
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: to a big rock. It's rocks twist of lemon.

1787
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 5: Wow.

1788
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 3: So it floored me. It floored me because I heard

1789
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: anybody order a drink with a twist.

1790
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: Was my dad every now and then when he would

1791
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 4: go out, would get a rob Roy up with a twist.

1792
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: So a rob roy is scotch vermouth?

1793
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 3: Yes, awfulness, it's gross. That is very gross.

1794
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Scotch doesn't blend to the vermooth. No,

1795
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's what it is. I think it's

1796
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: like a Manhattan but it's with Scotch instead of bourbon rye.

1797
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I mean, I say, I'm saying

1798
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: it relatively emphatically with the decent history of knowing whiskey.

1799
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: But I think that's what it is.

1800
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: So did you try it? Or is this tonight? First Friday? No?

1801
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 3: So I nailed it. Yeah.

1802
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: So we were in Charleston. We're eating it Husk Friday.

1803
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: You're reading the book, and so we were down there.

1804
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: So I was at Husk, which is they've had They

1805
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: usually have pavy. Now I have it, so I'm not

1806
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: going to order it and pay two hundred dollars for

1807
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: a drink of it. But they had blants and it

1808
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: was only like it was only like eighteen dollars of

1809
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 2: poor for blat, which is great. So I'm like, I

1810
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: tell you what in homage, give me a Blanton's on

1811
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: the rocks with a twist. So it came out, and

1812
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 2: I have to say it was quite refreshing. I'm not

1813
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: saying I would do it all the time, but I

1814
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: was shocked. It kind of tasted a little bit like

1815
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: a cold iced tea.

1816
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 4: Let's say, like an Arnold Palmer, which is like tell

1817
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 4: what you.

1818
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: Drink bourbon for, but if you're in Kentucky maybe you do,

1819
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: maybe because it's it's for the summer too, right. Yeah,

1820
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 2: So I was floored, I really was. I'd never had

1821
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: it that way. I'd never seen anybody order it that way,

1822
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: but I guess the way that they prefer theirs is

1823
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: and all of it really is that way.

1824
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: I've had fun watching on Instagram Will cl the Will

1825
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: the Thrill Clark, Yeah, wow, Yeah, it does like a

1826
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 3: podcast with Eric Burns who played for the A's I

1827
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: think for the Giants, and he was a little bit

1828
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 3: of a nut.

1829
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's the two of them together and Will Clark,

1830
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 4: I feel like, for the most part is either on

1831
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 4: he calls it the Frenchman Jacques Danielle or or COR's Light,

1832
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 4: and he has all that. But they were talking about

1833
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 4: a whiskey and he goes when the sun goes down,

1834
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 4: pour the brown and he's like, well, I was in

1835
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 4: Alaska and the sun never went down, so I had

1836
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 4: to bust it out early.

1837
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 3: But I was laughing at that.

1838
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 4: But it's funny to me that it sounds like to

1839
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 4: me what they're saying and what that bartender opis thought

1840
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: is like, Okay, we're gonna pull out, you know, like

1841
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 4: a French first growth from nineteen ninety five, and we're

1842
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 4: gonna like put something in it.

1843
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, which that's probably which.

1844
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 3: Sounds absurd to people. Yeah, I don't know.

1845
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 4: I mean it's interesting because in my mind, by the way, though,

1846
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 4: it's it's scotch. You are right, So scotch basically two

1847
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 4: parts gotch, one part sweet vermouth, and then a dash

1848
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 4: of angostura bitters.

1849
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 2: So that's just a it's a it's a Scotch Manhattan.

1850
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1851
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 3: Gross.

1852
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: And also I could see Pedro liking that just because

1853
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: it's named rob Roy. Probably probably he loves Rob Roy

1854
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: and yeah, you know he's the Irish Yeah, so I

1855
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 2: could see how Irish brave heart, Irish brave heart Liam

1856
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: Neeson plays him, I believe. Yeah, that's with a tim

1857
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: roth and a very very squirmy villain, which.

1858
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 4: Is perfect for him, which is it would just be

1859
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 4: wild like in my mind, and I understand like with

1860
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 4: an old fashion you get into a little orange, you

1861
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 4: get into this that in my mind lemon, and then

1862
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 4: what I like out of bourbon. This is just my take.

1863
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 4: I like carmel and vanilla butterscotch, even out of a

1864
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 4: bourbon lemon doesn't operate in that world to me, No,

1865
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 4: it doesn't it.

1866
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 2: To me, it trans It was an entirely different drink.

1867
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: It ceased to taste because you like it is what

1868
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: I like, and which is you know, I make an

1869
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 2: old fashion in Manhattan. It's all kind of in the

1870
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: same world of like I do it the black walnut

1871
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 2: bitters old fashions a lot is like one of my

1872
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: go tos. Or I'll make a maple old fashion, but

1873
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 2: that's always in that caramelly sweet after dinner nightcap feel. Yeah,

1874
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 2: whereas this with the in combination with the rocks. Honestly,

1875
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: it was almost like an iced tea, is what it

1876
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: felt like, like a lighter iced tea, like and I

1877
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: got to tell you like it was now I just

1878
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: ordered the one. I just did it once, but it

1879
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: was pretty refreshing.

1880
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 4: So that sounds like something that you would if you

1881
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 4: were going to be so bold as to experiment with. Yeah,

1882
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 4: it sounds like a perfect thing to do with, you know,

1883
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 4: the weller reserve, the perfect there would you spill to

1884
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 4: get it well that you can't get it?

1885
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right, I think you could do it. I think

1886
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 3: I would just say, like.

1887
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 4: But like if I was gonna pour something that I

1888
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 4: want to just taste that, yeah.

1889
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this, I mean obviously they're not hoarding because

1890
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 2: they have all of it, right, so like they're not

1891
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: worried about it not getting another bottle.

1892
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 3: Which would to me would be wild to go pay

1893
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 3: a five star restaurant price for something that you had.

1894
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 2: Probably but also because of the Buffalo Trace steal, they're

1895
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: not worried about money anymore, one less thing. And and

1896
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: also like it would be pretty cool to like walk

1897
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: into a bar and order the bottle with your grandpa's

1898
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 2: face on it, yeah, and say, I believe I'll have

1899
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:23,759
Speaker 2: that one.

1900
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 3: I'll love that.

1901
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna you're gonna have the Van Winkled twenty.

1902
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: And then some guy starts telling you about like, yeah,

1903
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: actually I'm the one that okayed every drop in that. Yeah,

1904
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 2: because they still do that too. They still okay every

1905
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 2: drop that goes into every bottle of it. By the way,

1906
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 2: they're pissed off that nobody can get it either, and

1907
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 2: they have no say in the allocation none, they don't.

1908
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: They don't get to say more bottles nothing.

1909
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: It's totaling is a total racket.

1910
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: It's it's a total racket for sure. But anyway, so

1911
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: if you're on a warm night, give it a shot

1912
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 2: with your everyday bourbon with the rocks and a twist.

1913
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 3: How can you not have a say in how your

1914
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 3: product gets distributed or who dude?

1915
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Because it's all state liquor boards and they all choose

1916
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: to run it differently, like here we run it like

1917
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: a lottery. Now everything's a lot.

1918
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm not going to distribute in your state.

1919
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: Well, and some people do that. But also like, it's

1920
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 2: not just him now he's under Buffalo Trace, like they

1921
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 2: bottle and distribute his whiskey, so it's not like he's

1922
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 2: And by the way, Buffalo Trace, whatever they're paying them

1923
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: ain't enough because that association with Van Winkle elevated every

1924
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: other bourbon in their world to the point where they're

1925
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 2: all scarce, and they all used to be ones you

1926
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: could get on any shelf. So they've benefited from that

1927
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 2: tenfold whatever they're paying.

1928
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 3: That is.

1929
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 4: Don't like this whole nonsense that you can't get all available.

1930
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 2: Blamess. Those are the guys, guys like, yes, doing what

1931
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: they're doing. Yeah, that's those are the guys to play

1932
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 2: no literar witnessed.

1933
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, allegedly no witness witness witness.

1934
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 3: Do you want to go back down this road again? Yeah,

1935
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 3: I guess because everyone want to go that. He was saying,

1936
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 3: I want to go back down this It happened. None

1937
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 3: of it happened.

1938
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Not have it happened?

1939
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 3: You like had to go back on the air and

1940
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 3: talk about a great human. Yeah, that was all tongue

1941
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 3: in cheese.

1942
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 2: All it was all nonsense. So much more to come.

1943
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Clevelan Brod Daily fifty.

1944
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 3: And Cleveland.

1945
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet coming

1946
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1947
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 2: You golfing tonight? Give me you you gonna give it

1948
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 2: a go on this?

1949
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 3: I think, so Ze doctor Z.

1950
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Speaker 4: I A'm gonna limit myself to nine.

1951
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Speaker 2: A niner, just a quick little niner.

1952
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a little little play. On Wednesday anyway, Oh yeah,

1953
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 3: I got Friday. I got a busy golf.

1954
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 2: Schedule coming up, So I got some matches.

1955
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got Friday.

1956
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 4: Then Sunday morning, I have a match with Simsay, who

1957
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 4: was battling his thumb injury.

1958
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 2: You versus Simsay No, we're a team versus don't know,

1959
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: don't know, this is this and some sort of Yeah

1960
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 2: in a club in a club tournament. I like it

1961
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Speaker 2: very good.

1962
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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have when's your sleepy hollow thing? That happened?

1963
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Speaker 3: We came in second.

1964
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's interesting. We didn't hear about it.

1965
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 3: We did, I did. I talked about it. No vacation.

1966
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Speaker 4: I don't know you were on vacation, and I talked

1967
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 4: about it. It was right when I got back from Mexico.

1968
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 4: I talked about it. You know why I talked about

1969
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 4: it on it was we didn't have a show Monday

1970
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Speaker 4: because it's a Memorial Day. And then I mentioned I just

1971
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 4: said I drained like a long put on last hole.

1972
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 4: We lost by one, but they weren't going to ban

1973
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 4: us had we won it three straight.

1974
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Speaker 3: So we came in. We've got podium finished again, came

1975
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Speaker 3: in second. Nothing wrong with that on the podium. We'll

1976
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Speaker 3: be back.

1977
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Speaker 4: Bones was happy here that obviously we wanted when we

1978
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 4: should have, but he was happier that we're back.

1979
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 3: That we had to get. It's a bit next levels.

1980
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Speaker 3: Next we're back to fifty Cleveland.

1981
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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

1982
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland

1983
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