1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording once again from the 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bunker. Folks. This past weekend was a busy one. 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: I did two hits on MSNBC, one with my co 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: host for my weekly podcast, Democracy Ish, and then another 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: one with my friend Katie Fang on MSNBC. And I 7 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: will say this, um, The New York Times did a 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: three part series on Tucker Carlson and Tucker Carlson's racism, 9 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: and what I gotta say is, I'm not so fucking 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: sure Tucker Carlson needed a three part series in The 11 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: New York Times to tell us that he's racist. I'm 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: sure we could have done that in a sixty second clip. 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that that could have been done in 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: a fucking tweet. That giving him that much prime real estate, 15 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: I think only goes to reinforce, particularly to his rabid bass, 16 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: that he's doing all the right things. I sat down 17 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: with Katie Fang over the weekend for a one on 18 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: one interview with her because I have spoken out many 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: times about Tucker Carlson. I believe that Tucker Carlson is 20 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: a threat to national security. I believe that his show, 21 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: As I said with my co host washahat Ali on 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Yasmin Vesugian Show on yesterday. On Sunday, I said that 23 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: I believe that Tucker Carlson and Fox News like they 24 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: need to come with warning labels right where you're watching 25 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: their shows, and right before it comes on, it goes black, 26 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: much in the same way that happens on Netflix and 27 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Hulu and what have you up in that corner while 28 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: the screen is black, it says, oh, this content contains nudity, violence, 29 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: explicit language, triggering abuse, blah blah blah blah blah blah. 30 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: Why don't we do that? I've been saying this for years. 31 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Right when Tucker Carlson was sued many many moons ago, 32 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the judge came back and said that, well, nobody in 33 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: their reasonable mind would consider Fox News News right that 34 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: it is for entertainment purposes. Well, if that is so, 35 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: then why doesn't right before Tucker Carlson show go on. 36 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Why isn't it black that says for entertainment right just 37 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: as you go into bedback then beyond their life as 38 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: seen on TV for entertainment purposes only, this show contains misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, racism, 39 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: explicit language, all of these things and just list it all. 40 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: What got me though, and why I think that the 41 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: New York Times series was problematic is because I don't 42 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: need again a three part series delving into one man's racism. 43 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: What we do deserve a three part series on in 44 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: the New York Times, however, is America's racism, And how 45 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson could have the number one news show in 46 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: the country because he is a rabid racist, and why 47 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: we would love to believe that he is operating outside 48 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: on the fringe somewhere. What I said very explicitly over 49 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: the weekend was that this is no longer the fringe, 50 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: right like what we thought was crazy four and five 51 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: years ago has now been mainstreamed and mainlined into the 52 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Republican Party. We saw this with the confirmation hearings for 53 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Judge Brown Jackson. We heard them try and kind of 54 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: walk her into this sad pit of pedophilia. Meanwhile, like 55 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I had said before, Daily Coast has put out a 56 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: thirty plus part series on Republican abused, sexual abusers, predators 57 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: and apologists. Why isn't that worthy of a three part series? 58 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: In the New York Times to show how far devolved 59 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: the Republican Party has become. So you give this man 60 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: all of this fucking primetime real estate, right only for 61 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: him to take a picture of the cover of the 62 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: paper and be like, look, mom, I've made it, and 63 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: then just give him more fodder. And here's the thing. 64 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I do not believe in ignoring these people, because they're 65 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: not going to go away, right, Like you can ignore COVID, 66 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you may and 67 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: fact catch it or it's going to continue spreading because 68 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: it's a fucking virus and it needs you to be 69 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: paying attention to it. Well, I can say the same 70 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: thing about white supremacy. It is a fucking cancer and 71 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: a virus on our society. You want to talk about 72 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: a pandemic, right, it is the pandemic of white nationalism 73 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: that nobody's been paying attention to. Even though ten years 74 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: ago a report came out to tell us about the 75 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: place that we would be in right now if we 76 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: were to decide that we weren't going to be paying attention. Right, Remember, 77 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: the FBI put this out and then all of a sudden, no, 78 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: there are no resources into that. Instead we're going to 79 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: direct our attention and our resources to black extremist groups. Well, 80 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: you tell me the last time you heard about a 81 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: black extremist group raiding the Capitol building, killing a police 82 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: officer and you know, injuring many hundreds in the process. 83 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: You tell me the last time that you remember a 84 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: black extremist group walking into a church and killing a 85 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: group of praying parishioners. You tell me the last time 86 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: you heard of a black extremist group being directed by 87 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the President of the United States to stand back and 88 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: stand by. So while white people love to project out 89 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: on to the rest of society that it is the 90 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: black and brown quote unquote menaces, because that's what was 91 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: said in the New York Times article as well, that 92 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: they've made conscious decisions about what they are going to showcase, 93 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter if it is factual or not. 94 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: It matters if it's going to sell to the rapid 95 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: red bass. And they know Tucker Carlson knows exactly what 96 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: sells right. It is hate and division. And what pissed 97 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: me off most about the article is that they want 98 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, he's been like wood or seduced 99 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: by white nativism and white nationalism. I'm like, you know, 100 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: is it about ratings or is it really who he is? 101 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: It's who this motherfucker is. Why are we stay trying 102 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: to make excuses for these people as if to conjure 103 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: up a way to say to ourselves, No, they can't 104 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: possibly be this racist, No, they can't possibly be this misogynistic. No, 105 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: they can't possibly believe that trans children deserve bullets on 106 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: their backs, right, deserve targets on their backs, and deserve 107 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: a life that is let in a closet or face 108 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: being riddled with violence? Like, why can't we believe who 109 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: these people are when they show us time and time again. 110 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I'm like, here's the thing. 111 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is not pretending to be a good person. 112 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is not pretending to be neutral. He lives 113 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: in an alternate universe. And the most interesting thing about 114 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: that article was the fact that he has created a 115 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: fucking bubble for himself, right, a feedback loop bubble. And 116 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: this is what I always fear with myself because I 117 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: have tons of friends and colleagues and folks that are 118 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: in the sphere, and I'm like, I'm not trying to 119 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: preach to them. I'm not trying to convince them. And 120 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: so what do other people think? Right? But Tucker Carlson 121 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: can't take what it is that other people think, which 122 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: is why he has created this like a this vacuum 123 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: around him. But much in the same way that Donald 124 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Trump couldn't take any criticism. Right, these big strong men, 125 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: But the moment that you say some hot shit about 126 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: them that is fucking true, or put their own words 127 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: in front of them allah a Marjorie Taylor Green on 128 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: the stand, then they want to cry fout. Oh the 129 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: media is run by liberals. Well, I don't know about you, 130 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: but there have been a number a fucking advertisers that 131 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: pulled from Tucker Carlson's show. But it's still not only 132 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: the number one show, but it is the highest grossing 133 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: for Fox News. So you tell me, is he the aggrieved? Right? 134 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Is he the person that needs to be coddled and 135 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: handled in the way that he professes? Oh? My god. 136 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: Replacement theory and the fact that these illegals and these 137 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: browns are coming in to the country and they are 138 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: replacing me and the hierarchy, the order of things is 139 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: being thrown off. Well, Let's talk about that hierarchy. Let's 140 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: talk about the ways in which white men, white Cish 141 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: hetero men have created a society where only them and 142 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: them alone can succeed and even when there are the 143 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: black and the Browns and the women and those that 144 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: intersect with multiple marginalized communities happen to rise above. Then 145 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: you want to what try and call us a pedophile 146 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: like you did to Judge Jackson Brown, whose record is 147 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: impeccable in comparison to the Beer Guslin rapist that you 148 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: all put on the fucking bench. Miss me with the 149 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: bullshit right, you know, would have rather see a three 150 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: part series on Mallory mcmarrow and how her authenticity, her 151 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: passion needs to be replicated that we saw out on 152 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: the floor of the Michigan Senate as opposed to the 153 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: bullshit dance that we are seeing senators in our party take. Oh, 154 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: if I hear one more time that fucking Joe Mansion 155 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: is really concerned or like we need to delve into 156 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: this with regard to voting rights, I'm like, Joe Mansion, 157 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up unless you were about to vote 158 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: yes on a voting rights bill and changing of the 159 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: filibuster before fucking time runs out in November. Shut the 160 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: fuck up. Ain't nobody trying to hear you, pay attention 161 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: to you? And frankly, if fucking Schumer were smart, he 162 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: would put Joe Mansion into a fucking applause vacuum. He 163 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: is such an attention whore. Take his name out of 164 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: the headlines, take away the gaggle of reporters that follow 165 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: him around so that he feels important, and instead, if 166 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: he's going to grab a headline, let it be Joe 167 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: Mansion alone. Wants to stop democracy, Right, let's tell the 168 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: fucking truth. But we don't. Right, We perpetuate the same 169 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: level of lies and bullshit because of ratings, right, because 170 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: of clicks. This weekend, I got to tell you that 171 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: between that story, listening to Marjorie Taylor Green's clips talk 172 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: about how Satan has taken over the church, I'm just 173 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: beside myself, folks, and it's Monday, but I am beside 174 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: myself with the fuckery that we are seeing out of 175 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: this country. So the question continues to be asked, our 176 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Democrats going to show up? Because Nancy Pelosi was up 177 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: in Kiev in Ukraine talking about you don't back down 178 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: to a bully, and I'm like, so does it not 179 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: apply here in the United States? When Democrats are fucking 180 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: coutelling to Republicans left and right. Does that same hot 181 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: energy that you have for Putin? Does that translate? Is 182 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: the question that I'm asking, because it doesn't fucking seem 183 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: to I'm tired of Democrats tough talks, finger wagging, and 184 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: trying to shame people that are shameless. Tucker Carlson, what 185 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: he got from New York Times is a bunch of 186 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: free advertising, right when instead the New York Times should 187 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: be doing multiple part series on how systemic racism is 188 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: the reason why we have the racial wealth gap, doing 189 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: breaking pieces on how we should be fearful about the 190 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: loss of our democracy and why folks need to wake 191 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: the fuck up. Not you doing a fucking profile piece 192 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: on Tucker Carlson, folks. Coming up next is my weekly 193 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: conversation with our friend Glenn Kershner, MSNBC legal analyst and 194 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: the host of Justice Matters, talking to us about what 195 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: whether or not the Department of Justice is going to 196 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: act like it is an agency with authority and power 197 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: to do something about the criminal Twice impeached ex President 198 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: and this allow his ability to run for office again 199 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. That conversation is coming up and 200 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: much more. Friends, You know that I'm always so happy 201 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: when our friend MSNBC legal analyst and the host of 202 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Justice Matters, Glenn Kershner, joins us to break down the 203 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: latest in unlawful news. Right, we can't talk about justice, Glenn, 204 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: because we're still waiting on that, but we have a 205 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: bevy a bevy of unlawful stories came out this past week, 206 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: so I want to start first with Marjorie Taylor Green. 207 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, We've watched her in Georgia lie on 208 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: the stand when asked about her connection to the insurrection, 209 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: her calling for violence the day of the insurrection at 210 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: the Stop to Steel rally. We've seen now the trove 211 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: of text messages over two thousand that CNN was able 212 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: to get from the Mark Meadows Treasonous Treasure trove, where 213 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: she's talking about martial law. But then goes on Fox 214 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: News and says, I don't know what everybody's talking about. 215 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: I never said anything. I never called for a violence, Glenn. 216 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: Do they think that we're stupid or do they think 217 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: that if they act stupid. Then then this will all 218 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: blow over. You know. My assumption is that because they 219 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: have seen zero accountability, visit any of the political criminals 220 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: that you know, we've seen committing crime with our own 221 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: Because there's no accountability, why would they bother telling the 222 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: truth about anything, particularly anything that could incriminate them or 223 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: make them look bad. So even though she there are 224 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: texts where Marjorie Taylor Green says, look, I'm talking to 225 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: members about martial law, tell Trump he needs to consider it, 226 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: and an under oath in front of a judge. I 227 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: don't remember, I don't ever remember talking about that. Well, 228 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't remember. Is not a perjury 229 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: proof answer, especially on something so consequential as a member 230 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: of Congress saying tell the President of the United States 231 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: that members of Congress think he should impose martial law. 232 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: It's absurd to have her say I don't remember and 233 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: think she can get away with it. But if there's 234 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: no accountability, Danielle, she can get away with it, and 235 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: that's why she does it. Let's let's I want to 236 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: provide uh the woke af audience with the severity of 237 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: martial law. Right, what can you recall a time in 238 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: modern times where martial law. We're a president of these 239 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: United States has instituted martial law, which which and again 240 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: just describe for us what that what that would look like. 241 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's essentially the president, um, you know, seizing 242 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: military control and being able to deny anyone and every 243 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: one of the rights that we all typically think we enjoy. Um, 244 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: it hasn't been done in modern history. And um, you know, 245 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: for for members of Congress to be urging a president 246 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: to do it, m is kind of the flip side 247 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: of the coin of what we heard from some of 248 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: the McCarthy tapes where he and Liz Cheney are casually 249 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: talking about, well, remember how we were talking about the 250 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: twenty fifth Amendment, how we should consider removing Donald Trump 251 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: from office for unfitness. Oh yeah, Liz, I remember we 252 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: were talking about that, and you know what, I think 253 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe he should just resign the presidency. And McCarthy is 254 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: saying that he's going to recommend that Donald Trump resigned 255 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: the presidency. This is flips the flip side of the 256 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: same coin. You got some members of Congress saying keep 257 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: the criminal president in office and have him declare martial 258 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: law to basically kill our democracy. You've got other members 259 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: of Congress saying he's unfit to serve under the twenty 260 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: fifth Amendment, he needs to resign, and then to cap 261 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: it all off, This is actually my favorite part of 262 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: the McCarthy tapes. McCarthy said, I'm gonna go in and 263 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: tell him to resign, but I just don't want him 264 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: to bring up the Pence pardon thing. Boy, that was 265 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: a really important revelation because McCarthy didn't just pull that 266 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: out of the air. It tells me that if McCarthy 267 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: is so concerned that Trump is again going to bring 268 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: up the Pence pardon thing, that tells me that Donald 269 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: Trump knows he committed crime, knows that if he resigns, 270 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: he's going to have to be pardoned by incoming president 271 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: Mike Pence. And McCarthy doesn't want to have to deal 272 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: with the Pence pardoned thing again. For Christ's sake, excuse 273 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: my language, how can we not have McCarthy testify about 274 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: those things, because not we all know Donald Trump's a criminal, right, 275 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: But that's evidence potentially of the corrupt intent that people 276 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: keep whining about. It so hard to prove, which it's not. 277 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: But McCarthy apparently has relevant evidence to that too. Get 278 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: him under oath. I don't care if it's before the 279 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: J six Committee or preferably in a federal grand jury 280 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: investigating Donald Trump's crimes, and let's document this and let's 281 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: move forward to protect our dang democracy. I mean, Glenn, 282 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: the Pence pardon thing. So you would have to be 283 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: devising some type of criminal operation for you to then 284 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: think about all the ways that you can skirt justice, right, 285 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: So you would be thinking to yourself, Okay, if I 286 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: do a B is going to happen, So I need 287 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: to cover my ass. This is what is driving me 288 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: crazy because Donald Trump wanted to say, no, no, no, 289 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: I honestly believed I lost, that the election was stolen. Well, 290 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: if you honestly believed that the election was stole, why 291 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: would you be speaking with your inner circle about potential pardon. 292 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Where would where would that fear, where would that anxiety? 293 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: Where would that calculation come from? Yeah? Wouldn't you think 294 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: McCarthy would have said, Uh, I don't want to go 295 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: talk to Trump about resigning because I know he's gonna 296 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: say I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't commit crimes. No, 297 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: that's not what McCarthy said. McCarthy said, I want to 298 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: go tell him to resign for everything he did, but 299 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear him talking about the Pence 300 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Parden thing, which goes right to your point. And that's 301 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: why we need McCarthy's testimony. And I hope Congress, you know, 302 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: finally pulls that tool out of its toolbox and says, oh, 303 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: you want to disobey our subpoena, we got a little 304 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: something for you. We're going to compel your testimony. You 305 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: know why they won't do that, Danielle, Why they would 306 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: rather continue to let the contemptuous witnesses win the subpoena 307 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: battle rather than using a lawful power that Congress has 308 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: to compel testimony. I will never ever understand that, because 309 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: if they keep tying that one hand behind their back 310 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: and we lose our democracy, how are they going to 311 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: feel about the fact that they did not deploy their 312 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: lawful constitutional power of inherent contempt. It's like, you know, Glenn, 313 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: the mountain of evidence against this corrupt Republican Party because 314 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: it isn't just Donald Trump. Because now I'm not just 315 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: looking to take Donald Trump down. These tapes right show 316 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: criminal to me, right now I'm saying it a layperson 317 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: criminal intent when you are looking at the calculations on 318 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: how you can skirt accountability for your criminal behavior. I mean, 319 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: what else, Glenn, is the Department of Justice waiting for? 320 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: And I don't even want you to answer that yet, 321 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: because here's the question that I have. Last weekend, I 322 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: was on MSNBC and the question was asked by Amon 323 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Mohadeen about media integrity, journalistic integrity, the fact that the 324 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy tapes, Right, we're somehow, we're somehow right. The New 325 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: York Times reporters get ahold of this, but they're like, 326 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: we're writing a book, so we're gonna hold this the 327 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: same way that Bob Woodward held the fact that Donald 328 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Trump knew in twenty nineteen how dangerous the coronavirus was, 329 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: knew that it was airborne, knew that it was deadly, 330 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: but he held that information to sell a book. Right, 331 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: What I mean, are these people liable for anything? And 332 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: then the question that I have like that, And then 333 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: number two, Joyce Vance was on the show and she 334 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: was talking about the fact that whoever recorded Kevin McCarthy 335 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: should be questioned, right, that it isn't just it isn't. 336 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: It's this chain of just I don't know what we 337 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: call it, right, these people that have this information, it 338 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: is critical to the American people to have it, It 339 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: is critical for the Department of Justice to have it, 340 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: but they hold it. Is there any liability anywhere, so, 341 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, civil liability versus criminal liability. You know, the reporters, 342 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: unfortunately will have a good I shouldn't say unfortunately, They 343 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: will have a good bit of protection under the First 344 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Amendment about you know, what they reveal, when they reveal it, 345 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: how they reveal it, And so I don't know that 346 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: there would be liability for them sitting on things that 347 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: you would think, you know, their own patriotic instincts would 348 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: would kind of compel them to release to the public 349 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: to help save lives. But I don't think they're required to, 350 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, so that it's different for government officials who 351 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: are sitting on information, like the people who recorded the 352 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: phone calls, for example, they might have some sort of exposure. 353 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: But here is the way to make a dent in 354 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: that there's a law on the books federally accessory after 355 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: the fact. Whoever knows that somebody's committed a crime against 356 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: the United States. In other words, a federal crime if 357 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: that person does anything to assist the offender in avoiding 358 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: apprehension or punish or charges criminal trial, they've committed the 359 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: crime of accessory after the fact. So any politician who 360 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: buries crimes that they know Donald Trump committed, they are 361 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: assisting him in avoiding punishment for his crimes. They're also 362 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: violating their oath of office. But that's not necessarily a 363 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: criminal charge. And Danielle, all it takes is for the 364 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: Department of Justice to bring one damn accessory after the 365 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: fact charge against the Jim Jordan or a Scott Berry 366 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: or a Kevin McCarthy or any of these other anys 367 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: who have covered up Donald Trump's crimes. And then that's 368 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: going to have the effect of one causing a whole 369 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: bunch of people to start to spit stuff out because 370 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: they don't want to be charged as accessories after the fact, 371 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: And it's going to deter future criminal conduct by people 372 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: who are thinking about burying the crimes of politicians. This 373 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: is not rocket science, it's not even advanced criminal law. 374 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: It's it's just it's common sense. It's good basic law 375 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: enforcement and good basic prosecutorial practice. And I can't, for 376 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: the life of me understand why none of it is 377 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: being done. I mean, like I you know, I don't 378 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: know because at this at this point, let me tell 379 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: you something, my mind goes to the fact that not 380 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: bringing these indictments is now showing your complicit right Like 381 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: to me, at some point I have to ask about 382 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice's integrity and whether or not they 383 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: are complicit in these crimes, because why else would you 384 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: not be bringing these charges. Danielle. Think about this. If 385 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: a local sheriff knew that his brother had committed crimes, 386 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: and the local sheriff was like, I'm not the rest 387 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: of my brother. I'm not bringing charges against my brother. 388 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: That would be a criminal cover up. It would be 389 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: obstructing justice. It would be a dereliction of duty. Now 390 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: let's change the scenario a little bit. Let's assume a 391 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: former high DOJ official join Donald Trump's conspiracy to overturn 392 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: the election authored letters to the battleground states falsely claiming 393 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice has evidence of election fraud and 394 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: we want you to appoint alternate electors. Drafts those letters, 395 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: doesn't send them, Others talk him out of sending those letters, 396 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: and then when questioned about it, that high government official 397 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: with the Department of Justice invokes his Fifth Amendment right 398 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: against self incrimination. In other words, if I hasified about 399 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: what I did and what the President did, I would 400 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: incriminate myself. And the Department of Justice has not charged 401 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: that person, and there's no indication they're even on their 402 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: way to charging that person. How far is that from 403 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: the first hypothetical where a sheriff refuses to charge his brother. 404 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: They feel an awful lot alike. And as I said 405 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: on air yesterday, I said, that feels like cronyism at 406 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: best and corruption at worst. Now, maybe we're about to 407 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: see a big old indictment drop. So I'm not accusing 408 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: DOJ of corruption. I'm posing the question because I think 409 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: it's a fair question and one that screams out for 410 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: an answer. Are we already living inside of a Banana 411 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: republic like this? If you know, I've always said, you 412 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: don't become a Banana republic by prosecuting political criminals. You 413 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: become a Banana republic by not prosecuting political criminals or 414 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: criminal politicians. So we're halfway there, We're maybe three quarters 415 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: of the way there. We're not all the way there yet, 416 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: but in the absence of criminal indictments of Donald Trump 417 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: and all of his co conspirators, we are absolutely a 418 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: banana republican. We're a banana republic where the future dictator 419 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: or autocrat will have even more nuclear weapons than Vladimir 420 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: Putin has. How does that make us feel? Jesus Christ, 421 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: it's too early for me to drink, but my god. 422 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Let's transition to New York, where Alvin Bragg, Manhattan District Attorney, 423 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: has decided to do a whole lot of nothing. This 424 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: comes after, just to remind you everybody, his predecessor, side Vance, 425 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: had called a special grand jury to sit for a 426 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: longer period of time because guess what, the evidence was 427 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: so overwhelming that they needed more than the six weeks 428 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: to be able to sit and go through the evidence 429 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: at hand. Alvin Bragg gets elected and then poof, the 430 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: case goes nowhere. Two of the major prosecutors quit in protest. 431 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't release their letters of resignation because he says, oh, 432 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: there's some evidence in there and we couldn't possibly release it, 433 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: or the evidence is that somehow once again corruption Because 434 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how you come into a new job 435 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: with a desk full of evidence, a special grand jury, 436 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: and then out of nowhere, decide we're not going to prosecute. 437 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna this kind of fizzle out on its own. 438 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: Tell me that this doesn't smell like something's not right either. Yeah, 439 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: and then if we add the new Daily Beast reporting, 440 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: this is going to give us all whiplash. You're ready 441 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: for this because let me let me round out the 442 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: picture with not only did the prosecutors resign, but Mark 443 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Pomerant's the lead prosecutor and by all accounts, just an 444 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: expert mob prosecutor, white collar criminal defense attorney, seventy year 445 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: old gentleman who basically was doing this for free because 446 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: he felt so strongly about bringing Trump to justice. In 447 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: his letter, which Alvin Bragg wouldn't release, he said, Sivance 448 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: told us to indict Trump because there was enough evidence, 449 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: do it as quickly as is responsible, and there is 450 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt Donald Trump's 451 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: guilt of multiple felony offenses. That's what Mark Pomerand said. 452 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: And then Alvin Bragg came in and instantly killed the 453 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: case for reasons we don't yet no, but I have 454 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: a suggestion on that front in a minute. But then 455 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: the new Daily Beast reporting this is what will give 456 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: you whiplash. There was a deposition taken of Donald Trump 457 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one in connection with a suit that 458 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: was brought for his security staff roughing up some protesters 459 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: outside of Trump Tower in twenty fifteen, and it was 460 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: just revealed that what Donald Trump said under oath in 461 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: that deposition in twenty twenty one is that I and 462 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: I alone was responsible am responsible for the compensation to 463 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Collamari, my chief operating officer. Now Matthew Collamari is 464 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: alleged to have basically been involved in the same criminal scheme, 465 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: getting lavish apartments and cars and not paying any New 466 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: York City tax or New York State tax or federal 467 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: tax on any of it. Those are the precise crime, Danielle, 468 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: that Alan Weisselberg and the Trump organization are indicted for, 469 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: and they're pending trial still in the fall. And the 470 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: complaint and the concern is, oh, my goodness, we can't 471 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: prove Donald Trump was involved in any of this. Well, 472 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: actually we can with his own sworn testimony in a deposition, 473 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: and the Daily Beast article says, and this is going 474 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: to be of great benefit to the New York District 475 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Attorney's Grand jury investigation looking into Donald Trump's crimes. But 476 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg just killed that investigation. So this is like 477 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: the kind of searing injustice that is going to leave 478 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: a mark. You know, there's no two ways. So here's 479 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: what has to happen. In my instimation, New York Governor 480 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: Hopel either has to reassign the case to somebody who 481 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: will prosecute it, whatever her lawful authority is to do that. 482 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: If she can sign it to Tish James's office, let's 483 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: do that. Or she needs to remove Alvin Bragg from 484 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: office and replace what she has the authority to do. 485 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: There are some you know, procedural basis she has the 486 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: touch to do it and put somebody there who will 487 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: actually give this prosecution of Donald Trump a fair shake. 488 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: Or the voters of New York need to vote her 489 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: out and vote in a governor who will because the 490 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: governors who are running for office in New York, both 491 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: Republican and Democrat, have pledged. Now, campaign pledges are not 492 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: worth the paper they're written on, but they have pledged 493 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: they will get rid of Alvin Bragg and put somebody 494 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: in who will give the Trump So let's do those things. 495 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: And also let's have some investigative journalists dig into Alvin 496 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: Bragg and see he filled his campaign offers. Because I'm 497 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: not accusing him, but we need asking the question. We 498 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: need to know, just asking the question, not accusing anyone, 499 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: but I just find it very curious. And I say 500 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: every time that something like this happens, the only thing 501 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: folks need to do is follow the money. Follow the money, 502 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: because it will lead us to the answers that folks 503 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: are starting to ask. Last question for you, Glenn, is 504 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: there any indication out of the Governor's office right now 505 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: that there is any interest, any hinting at making any 506 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: of the moves that you just laid out for us. 507 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: The only and I hesitate to say, it's reporting. I 508 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: have a recollection that Governor Hokel was quoted as saying 509 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: she's not enamored of removing Bragg from office, which is 510 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: only one of the remedies she has. And I haven't 511 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: heard anything about the possibility of reassigning the Trump investigation 512 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: out of the DA's office. So but that's pretty much 513 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: all I've I've heard on that. Oh we're gonna, we're 514 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: gonna digg into this one. We're gonna, we're gonna keep 515 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: our eyes on this one because everybody's up for reelection 516 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's pastime. It is pastime. And I 517 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: want to know why teflon Don thirty years, forty years 518 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: of criminality in New York and ain't nothing touch him. 519 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: Even my own mother said, I just don't get it. Danielle, 520 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: explain it to me. What am I missing? Oh, you're 521 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: not missing anything. Everyone is corrupt, is what I believe. 522 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: Glenn As always, thank you so much for spending time 523 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: with us today on Woke f and pretty much adding 524 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: multiple gray hairs to my head. I think that's the 525 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: one that's the one concern I don't have. It's the 526 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: one I appreciate you. Thank you, Danie. I'll see you 527 00:36:52,239 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: next week. That is it for me today, Your folks 528 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: on Woke a f As always, power to the people 529 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay 530 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: woke as fuck.