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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 2: name is Nol.

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Speaker 3: They call b BED. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want

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Speaker 4: Folks.

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Speaker 3: There are a ton of things happening in the news

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Speaker 3: and around the world today. We are recording on Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: June eighteenth. This strange news program will publish on June

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Speaker 3: twenty third, and it's going to be diplomatically put. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see what Monday looks like.

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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to be positive when we say that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not looking good.

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Speaker 3: Maybe everything will work out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I like to try to live by

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Speaker 4: those words, but it doesn't always work out.

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Speaker 3: On one thing I think we all kind of predicted

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Speaker 3: but found confirmed by recent research is that if you're

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Speaker 3: learning about news outside of this show, then statistically in

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Speaker 3: the United States, you're learning about it through social media.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to the recent article by Ian Young's

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Speaker 3: over at the BBC. Please check it out for read

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Speaker 3: and guys, I think we all just kind of assumed

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Speaker 3: that social media was a bigger and bigger source of

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Speaker 3: quote unquote news for most of the US, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but usually I'm seeing news from news sites on

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Speaker 2: social med So are we talking about directs who are

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Speaker 2: just saying things?

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Speaker 4: Well? Also, I mean, let's just be real here. The

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Speaker 4: is very want to make news directly, I think prefers

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Speaker 4: it that way, and so that is certainly, and also

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Speaker 4: a lot of members of his party and other politicians,

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Speaker 4: you know, with Twitter and now of course truth and

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Speaker 4: Lusky and whatever, there is a direct way for folks

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Speaker 4: to you know, make news if they wish.

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Speaker 3: So bite I'm with you, Ben, bite sized, digestible what

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Speaker 3: we used to call them nuggets, not indigestible at times, right, right,

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Speaker 3: full of factoids. In fact, we are using that phrase correctly.

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Speaker 3: Studies show more than half of people in this country

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Speaker 3: get news from networks like Facebook, x YouTube, the things

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Speaker 3: we were naming about fifty four percent of the country.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, Matt, a lot of that is

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Speaker 3: going to be repurposed clips from other news organizations, right,

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Speaker 3: things that go viral, And as Mark Twain said, you know,

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Speaker 3: lie can circle the world twice while the truth is

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Speaker 3: putting on at shoes. That's the situation where now. So

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Speaker 3: we want to keep that in mind, right, keep in

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Speaker 3: mind the idea of misinformation and disinformation as it proliferates.

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Speaker 3: We're going to explore the world in Tonight's Strange News,

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Speaker 3: And we were talking off air briefly about this. The

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Speaker 3: first thing we need to talk about is Iran, Israel

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Speaker 3: and pizza.

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Speaker 4: Yep, the pizza index right like much like the waffle

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Speaker 4: house index predicts bad weather that you should really take

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Speaker 4: note of. This pizza index, which was news to me, Ben,

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Speaker 4: I think is a way of predicting military action or

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Speaker 4: at least mega scuttle butt going on in Washington, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then from there we're going to encounter some shipwrecks,

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Speaker 3: maybe some hidden history, some legislative corruption, and an unethical

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Speaker 3: but apparently quite successful aviation hack. All this and more

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Speaker 3: after the break and we have returned. If you happen

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Speaker 3: to engage with Twitter or x as Elon Musk prefers

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Speaker 3: It's at penn Pizza Report. The Pentagon Pizza Report is

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Speaker 3: an open source tracking of pizza order activity around the

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Speaker 3: Pentagon and other related nearby places. This has become an

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Speaker 3: unofficial metric similar to that of the waffle House Index,

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Speaker 3: which we've discussed in the past. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: a loose prediction on upcoming US military action based on

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Speaker 3: an increase in pizza orders to these military installations. First off,

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Speaker 3: you know, Noel, you said this was kind of new

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard you guys mentioned there been at least

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can always count on someone with a crazy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is of course private, playing public record yes,

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, because people in Vegas and online

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, They'll take those odds.

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Speaker 2: But guys, just help me, just really clarify this for me.

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Speaker 2: Sure in my mind, this is stating that someone somewhere

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of situation room stuff. It's it's a Cold

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Speaker 3: It has very recently resurfaced. This is getting us into

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Speaker 3: Since the Cold War, there's been this theory that waxes

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Speaker 3: by correlating pizza orders near the Pentagon. And this worked

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Speaker 4: Oh jeez, say that. My initial question was where do

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Speaker 4: You could look at Google Business results and see high

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Speaker 3: The pizza operators were probably the like, the primary source

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Speaker 3: if we know it works, if the public knows it works, right,

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Speaker 3: and anybody can follow anyone on Twitter or accounts like this,

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, you can do your door dash from random places,

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Speaker 4: Also, I guess pizza is kind of the ultimate community

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Speaker 4: takeout food or order delivery food, you know, because you

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Speaker 3: Handheld things, subway sandwiches. There used to be a subway

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Speaker 3: in the Pentagon. I'm sure they got busy at different times.

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Speaker 3: But the reason people are focusing on this now is

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Speaker 3: due to the ongoing escalation of the conflict between Israel

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Speaker 3: We are well aware that this can be an incredibly

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Speaker 4: And at least that's when I heard about it.

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Speaker 3: This latest iteration of this long running, deeply seated conflict

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there were talks, right, they were in specific

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Speaker 4: And this is about targeting these enrichment facilities, right.

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Speaker 3: and then also political officials. The chief of staff died

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing that is, I think another evolution

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Speaker 4: Yes, vital oh, let's keep it.

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Speaker 3: It's the best word for it.

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Speaker 3: On June twenty second, twenty twenty five, the United States

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Speaker 4: There and we have returned. Fellas. Are you familiar with

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Speaker 4: as follows, we the members of the above stated group

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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's you know, flatter here and there we go. President.

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Speaker 4: We hope that's our message finds you well, sir, Our

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Speaker 4: I was reading on a Reddit thread that y'all may

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Speaker 4: have seen as well. I think I linked to in

436
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Speaker 4: the doc. Some eagle eyed redditors looked for social media

437
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Speaker 4: presence in this organization. It could only find a Facebook

438
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Speaker 4: page with like seven hundred followers.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was looking at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so somebody points out the way they put it

441
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Speaker 4: is really funny. Let's see if someone does by the

442
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Speaker 4: way I mentioned, this is an objectively funny and very

443
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Speaker 4: ununy headline. They essentially say that they think the organization

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Speaker 4: is uh, let's just politely or diplomatically say inflating their numbers.

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Speaker 4: And they point out that, yeah, so sixteen point sixty

446
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Speaker 4: five million members the total population of Ghana's around thirty

447
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: three point seven million yees. The working age population age

448
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Speaker 4: fifteen to sixty five was eighteen million, six hundred and

449
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Speaker 4: nineteenery twenty one in twenty twenty one. This means something

450
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Speaker 4: like eighty nine percent of the adult population of Ghana

451
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Speaker 4: is in the Drunkards Association.

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Speaker 3: This is here's how you do it. Here's how you

453
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Speaker 3: goose that one. They may be counting everybody who has

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Speaker 3: ever walked into a bar in the history of Ghana, like, welcome,

455
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Speaker 3: you're a member. Here's a PBR. Not complementary, though, you're

456
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Speaker 3: gonna have to pay us.

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Speaker 4: A lovely Reddit name. By the way, salacious verbacious. That's

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Speaker 4: great props to that had this to say, maybe they're

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Speaker 4: doing a membership counting strategy like the Catholic Church where

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Speaker 4: anyone who is baptized automatically becomes a member for life.

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Speaker 4: Definitely some creative math. His comments are gold. By the way, Well,

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Speaker 4: they're passionate and using their platform for the greater good.

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Speaker 4: I suppose Ghana sounds like a fun place to visit.

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Speaker 4: Let's see one more. That was fun, But thinking about

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Speaker 4: it further, it's quite interesting as well. How it reflects

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Speaker 4: a view of collective bargaining and group identification beyond the

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Speaker 4: usual sociopolitical groupings we are used to seeing. And that

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Speaker 4: is a really good point. God, that's just a good point. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the possibility of protest or strikes.

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Speaker 4: That is what they're calling for. I bury them there.

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Speaker 4: They are calling for action, which wasn't mentioned in the

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Speaker 4: actual statement, but that is essentially the takeaway is that

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Speaker 4: there they don't get what they want, They're gonna they're

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Speaker 4: gonna stage some sort of massive protest or with a

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Speaker 4: three week time window. That's exactly right. Yeah, less reddit comment.

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Speaker 4: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.

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Speaker 4: Teach him how to fish and he'll just sit on

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Speaker 4: his boat drinking beers and complaining all day. Don't teach

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Speaker 4: a man to fish. He's a grown man. And fishing

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Speaker 4: is not that hard. That's all I got, y'all.

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Speaker 3: I guess it does get more difficult the more alcohol

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Speaker 3: you can sume.

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Speaker 4: That is true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It depends on the kind of fishing.

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Speaker 3: Deep sea fishing probably more difficult, but.

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Speaker 4: It's nothing as difficult. It requires patience, though, and it

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Speaker 4: does make me think of the expression shooting fish in

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Speaker 4: a barrel, which also doesn't necessarily seem like it would

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Speaker 4: be as easy, as people point out, depends on the

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Speaker 4: size of the fish and the size of the barrel,

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Speaker 4: And it just never made sense that if you already

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Speaker 4: have the fish in the barrel, why would you shoot them? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that just seems like adding insults injury, doesn't it welcome

494
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Speaker 4: to overthinking? For sure, that's kind of what we do

495
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: here on stuff they don't want you to know. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're threatening this demonstration a three week deadline in order

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Speaker 4: to have their demands. Matt. Local media reports that the

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Speaker 4: association will mobilize millions. Again, I don't know if they've

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Speaker 4: got the man power, but we'll see to stage a

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Speaker 4: mass demonstration. And that's about as far as they take

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Speaker 4: it in terms of the party it does.

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Speaker 3: Are going, Are we get to raise protest?

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Speaker 4: Let's book, let's book our trips to Ghana right away?

504
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Speaker 4: Last thing, though their newfound viral fame has exposed them

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Speaker 4: to a global audience, the Drunkards Association have their fans

506
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Speaker 4: back home. Moses Ohaya or Annoyaya raised a few eyebrows

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Speaker 4: with the signature back in December, signing off on a

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Speaker 4: communication with this exceptional signature. Sorry, that was the statement

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Speaker 4: I read That was a little ways back. So this

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Speaker 4: is a new initiative, but it does seem that it's

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Speaker 4: very much tied to this statement that I read, So

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Speaker 4: that is where the funny little squiggly signature comes from. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: don't really have much else on that one, and I

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Speaker 4: did just want to point out a couple of quick things.

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Speaker 4: There have been some fascinating archaeological discoveries in Syria. A

516
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Speaker 4: contractor stumbled upon a complex of Byzantine tombs under a

517
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Speaker 4: residential area. This is from Marat al Numan in Syria.

518
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Speaker 4: From the ap A contractor digging into the earth where

519
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Speaker 4: the rubble of a destroyed house had been cleared away

520
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: in northern Syria stumbled across a surprise, the remains of

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Speaker 4: an underground Byzantine tomb complex, believed to be more than

522
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Speaker 4: one five hundred years old. Discovery emerged last month in

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Speaker 4: the town of Marat al Numan in Idlib Province, which

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Speaker 4: is strategically located on the route between the cities of

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Speaker 4: Aleppo and Damascus. The community became a touch point in

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Speaker 4: the early fourteen year SII in the Civil War that

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Speaker 4: ended with the fall of former President Basharas in a

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Speaker 4: lightning rebel offensive in December. We're talking about like engraved stones,

529
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Speaker 4: all kinds of archaeological goodies to be had. A sod

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Speaker 4: sees this area from the opposition to his regime in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty and the houses there that had been built

532
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Speaker 4: were looted and destroyed, which is what has led to

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Speaker 4: the sifting through the rubble and the discovery of this tomb.

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Speaker 3: Which may well have remained undiscovered for another several centuries,

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Speaker 3: maybe another thousand years, were it not for this horrific conflict.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Yeah, and you know an interesting knock

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Speaker 4: on effect of these type of conflicts that I think

538
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Speaker 4: is interesting in and of itself. The unearthing of these

539
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Speaker 4: types of artifacts, I think is fascinating to all of us.

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Speaker 4: And we do have one more quick my mystery solved.

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Speaker 4: In a recent article from Archaeology News, new evidence points

542
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Speaker 4: to world's richest shipwreck. In seventeen oh eight, a Spanish

543
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Speaker 4: galleon called the San Jose left Portobello, Panama, bound for

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Speaker 4: Cartina are Cartagania, Colombia, with two hundred tons of gold, silver,

545
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Speaker 4: and priceless artifacts and gems on board, and it was

546
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Speaker 4: it was the flagship of the Spanish chare A firm

547
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Speaker 4: A fleet and it was intercepted by British vessels and

548
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Speaker 4: sunk off the coast of Cartagania. Colombian authorities about ten

549
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Speaker 4: years ago believe they had discovered this wreck, the world's

550
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Speaker 4: largest shipwreck. But recent reports have shown that through analyzing

551
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Speaker 4: these very specific types of coins that are littered across

552
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Speaker 4: the seafloor, known as cobs, they've determined that they were

553
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Speaker 4: in fact minted in Lima, Peru in seventeen seven. And

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Speaker 4: this is a statement from one of the investigators. The

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Speaker 4: finding of cobs created in seventeen oh seven of the

556
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Speaker 4: Lima mint points to a vessel navigating the Tierra firm

557
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Speaker 4: A route in the early eighteenth century. This is from

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Speaker 4: Daniella Vargas. Ariza is the lead researcher on the project.

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Speaker 4: She goes on the San Jose galleon is the only

560
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Speaker 4: ship that matches these characteristics and yeah, so this is

561
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Speaker 4: potentially a billion dollar find once you know if. And

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Speaker 4: it made me think too. It is like the idea

563
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Speaker 4: of antiquities being priceless and how things are valued, and

564
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Speaker 4: it all is kind of based on collector markets at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, right, so in terms of

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Speaker 4: how much this would ultimately be valued at, not necessarily

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Speaker 4: the product of the actual modern day value of the

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Speaker 4: precious materials, but it, you know, figures into this whole

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Speaker 4: notion of like what the collector value is or what

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Speaker 4: the you know, value to museums and such might be.

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Speaker 3: It was just about to say it belongs it a museum,

572
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Speaker 3: shout out to Indiana.

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Speaker 4: But I just yeah, it's all this stuff is fascinating,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know. Then you had also mentioned there

575
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Speaker 4: was another famous shipwreck that was recently discovered, and we

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Speaker 4: thought maybe there was some crossover, but I think, oh,

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Speaker 4: Captain what.

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Speaker 3: Was it, Captain Kirk's.

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Speaker 4: That's different.

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Speaker 3: That would be a cooler ship to find if the

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Speaker 3: Enterprise was somehow.

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Speaker 4: Found on the sea floor off the coast of Rhode Island.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Captain cook ship, the HMS Endeavor, sank two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty years ago during the Revolutionary War or the

585
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Speaker 3: War four Independence, or as our British friends call it,

586
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Speaker 3: the Peasants stink.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that one. Did you make that up?

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00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, probably got it. No, David Attenburrough. Sure we'll

589
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: tag it on there, but that that's just a fascinating

590
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Speaker 3: piece of perhaps ridiculous history. And in both of these cases,

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Speaker 3: you know what I think we all find amazing is

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Speaker 3: it shows just how much stuff is.

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Speaker 4: Under the water.

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Speaker 3: Still there are still shipwrecks out there. I know not

595
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Speaker 3: everybody is a fan of James Cameron, but he's onto something, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely cornered the market on the deepest of

597
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: sea exploration for sure. Leave it at that, guys, Let's

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Speaker 4: take a quick break. Hear a word from our sponsor,

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Speaker 4: and then we'll come back with Matt Frederick's pieces of

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Speaker 4: strange news.

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Speaker 2: Boom, we've returned.

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Speaker 4: I'm that guy, I think. Still, Oh we know, are

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Speaker 4: you him?

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Speaker 2: I might be him. Let's talk about some stuff, guys.

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Speaker 2: We've got a fellow here named Michael Madigan. The name

606
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: sounds really familiar. I don't think he's as well known

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Speaker 2: as perhaps the authors of this particular AP news piece

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Speaker 2: believe he is, but his name might be familiar to you.

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Speaker 2: He is one of the if not the longest serving

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Speaker 2: politicians forever, maybe the longest serving legislative leader in the

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Speaker 2: United States, around fifty years of service to the public. Right,

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Speaker 2: This is a man who served as a speaker, as

613
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Speaker 2: in like a speaker of the house. Fellow. He he

614
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: got in trouble, guys, he got in some big trouble.

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Speaker 2: Two and a half million dollar fine and a seven

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Speaker 2: and a half year prison sentence for a bunch of things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: specifically ten counts of things. He was convicted in February

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Speaker 2: on ten counts of things like bribery, conspiracy, wire fraud, damn. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and a bunch of other charges that are associated with

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Speaker 2: him basically getting favors and positions for his friends.

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Speaker 3: Cookie jar crimes not violent crime.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's all white collar stuff here, guys. Yeah, dating

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Speaker 2: back how far? Uh, dating back for I think twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if they.

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Speaker 3: Got like conspiracy, this was this was a long time

626
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Speaker 3: in coming, right, because there's there's a high bar to

627
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Speaker 3: prove some of that. And Matt, how long did you say?

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Speaker 2: The prison sentence is seven and a half years.

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Speaker 4: He's going to that prison they're putting tough.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty tough for an eighty three year old man.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a life, not that it really

633
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Speaker 3: is not the best one. No, we we talked about

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Speaker 3: it's so weird that this came up. I want to

635
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Speaker 3: say I may have seen part of this headline that

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Speaker 3: I don't know much about it, and like a lot

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Speaker 3: of us, like you were saying, Matt, I'm not super

638
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Speaker 3: familiar with Madigan nor his work, but something inspired me,

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Speaker 3: probably this headline to relist. Listen to our two part

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Speaker 3: episode on lobbying, and it is scary how well it

641
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Speaker 3: holds up. Yes, like this is a so Michael Joseph

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Speaker 3: Madigan definitely was a dark money lobby alec friendly dude,

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Speaker 3: would we.

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, yeah, specifically he's in Illinois. By the way,

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Speaker 2: We've heard a lot of things over the years about

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Speaker 2: Chicago specifically and about politics in Illinois, and it appears

647
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Speaker 2: that mister Madigan was taken part in a lot of

648
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Speaker 2: that stuff, the rumors you know that go around and

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Speaker 2: then the rare, rare I would say, individual who ends

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Speaker 2: up getting a prison sentence or a slap on the

651
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: wrist for the kind of corruption that we're talking about here.

652
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was and is of the Democratic Party.

653
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, yes, he was chairperson of the Illinois Democratic Party,

654
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: which again just a reminder that yeah, no matter who

655
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: you believe in what you believe, what your political thing is.

656
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: Everybody that gets to a certain level is susceptible to

657
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: this kind of thing.

658
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: I would just love to say once more, I don't

659
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: like or trust either of them.

660
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 3: I like money, though, Yeah, shout out to deocracy.

661
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: Boy.

662
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Both sides of this coin are kind of weird.

663
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the best way for me to check

664
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: on that for you is if you give me like

665
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: five more coins.

666
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: That's a great, great idea.

667
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: Patronage, right, nepotism, old school Chicago corruption as deep as

668
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: the pizza up there.

669
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like and the fact that we have

670
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 4: this two party system is jacked up in and of itself.

671
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: And I truly don't identify with either party. I just

672
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: want to make that really clear. I think both are

673
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: I trust them about as far as I can throw them.

674
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 3: I'm super into I'm super into that practice. We received

675
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: some correspondence about this, that practice of local municipalities electing

676
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: non human animals positions of leadership. You know, like this

677
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 3: you know has been a great mayor and a good boy.

678
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: So let's just I've loved that line, Ben about as

679
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: deep as the pizza that I don't want that to

680
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: go by. I really really like that. We're just we're

681
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: getting toward Seriously, I'm hungry too, So just let's think

682
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: think about this. Imagine this in your mind. This man

683
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: was in the legislature there in Illinois, through the reins

684
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: of seven different governors, seven different leaders in the executive

685
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: side of Illinois were there while he was standing watch right,

686
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: So you can just imagine the number of hands that

687
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: he is shaked, you know, and the number of well, yeah,

688
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 2: the number of deals he negotiated, the number of things,

689
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: like you stat if you could visualize and stack up

690
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: all of those negotiations and talks and all that stuff,

691
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: and then only imagine that there were a teeny tiny

692
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: layer on top of that that is the corrupt stuff

693
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: that he's being charged. For sure, it's probably way not

694
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: as bad as a lot of the stuff that's occurred,

695
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: at least when I'm looking through the writing on this

696
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: from AP. It's just it does stink that once you have,

697
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: once you have that power to go through those negotiations,

698
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: to make those deals and make those you know, decisions,

699
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: you are gonna get pressured in so many ways, and

700
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: you're gonna make decisions that not everybody's gonna like, but

701
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: are gonna benefit a few people, right, Yeah, and.

702
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: You get that reputation that is honestly past a certain threshold.

703
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: It's a political You get regarded as the guy who,

704
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: for better or worse, can get things done, you know

705
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, hey, red Tape, that's for the

706
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: other dudes.

707
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: You and me.

708
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: We can you know, well we have special we can

709
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: drop that. Let's get some fetichini and talk this through.

710
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

711
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but at some point it doesn't it feel

712
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: to you guys like this is just how it gets done.

713
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: One hundred, no question, unless the mayor is a dog

714
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 3: or maybe a cat. I don't know. I wouldn't trust

715
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: a cat in politics.

716
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: Joking, maybe diabolical. You wouldn't stand a chance.

717
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: We're just saying the humans have some structural flaws and

718
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: more and more. You know, it's fascinating to look at

719
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: this gentleman's career. Starting your political sort of ascension when

720
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: you're just twenty seven is massively impressive. And it sounds

721
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: like he was already involved in campaigns well well before then,

722
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: so he's definitely a career man. Has he made a

723
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: statement for his lawyers.

724
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've made many statements during the trial. It

725
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: was at least the defense was this man needs to

726
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: go home. He needs to be at home so he

727
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: can take care of his spouse. You know, there was

728
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 2: a video from her that was played during the trial,

729
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: like leading, you know, hey, please, I need my husband

730
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: and like what like.

731
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 4: Maybe asking for house arrests or something a little more lenient.

732
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're looking for like some kind of commuted sentence

733
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: in a fine and like make that stuff happen.

734
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: But that is not That's not what the judge decided there.

735
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: Do you think they made an example of him?

736
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: Kind of?

737
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: I mean, we see so much of this and the

738
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: people's getting away with it day in and day out.

739
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: Very interesting they would target this old fella, I don't know.

740
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cynical side of us would argue, or would

741
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: ask with validity, did he cross somebody? Because he's been

742
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: very good at playing this game for quite some time.

743
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: And I love the point you're making their noel about

744
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: what could be seen as some hypocrisy on the side

745
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: of the justice system. We know that the courts have

746
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: been struggling lately with a lot of controversial rulings and

747
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: with you know, let's say it. They're beefed up with

748
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: the executive branch. There's no two ways around it, big time.

749
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: But it does sound like it sounds like he did it.

750
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: And I think, Matt, you're the bigger question raised is

751
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 3: is this just the way everything gets done?

752
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: Well? It kind of is.

753
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: But guys, there's another article from early early this year

754
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: when Michael Madigan was going through another trial involved like

755
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: a whole separate trial involved with again allegations of conspiracy.

756
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: Then he was using this thing called calm ed.

757
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

758
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: The New York Times article right.

759
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: There, there's one of those.

760
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking at one specifically from PBS that was written

761
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: January twenty second, and it's just about that trial and

762
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: the end of that trial and how this utility company

763
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: was allegedly paying individuals like that they shouldn't have been

764
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: paying a lot of money.

765
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 3: So the cookie didn't crumble overnight, it started to cintegrating.

766
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to me, it sounds like a bunch of

767
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: things that got put in place because as speaker, that

768
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: position allows you to kind of make the give the

769
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: final word on which bills end up coming through, right,

770
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: which which bills get do we even get to vote

771
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 2: on right, a legislative body, which, good God, that's power. Yeah,

772
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: and it just seems like he used a lot of

773
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: that for his own, his own gain.

774
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: I mean, it makes me think back to the whole

775
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: uh simple sabotage episode we did, and how that type

776
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 4: of I don't know, you could call it rhetorical sabotage,

777
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 4: I suppose is such part and parcel of the way

778
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: parliamentary procedure works. There is it. It's built to fail,

779
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 4: it's designed to be manipulated, and it's not inherently designed

780
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: with the best interest of citizens at heart. It just isn't.

781
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: Maybe it's designed with their best interest, but the way

782
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: it's manipulated and traversed is certainly not as a.

783
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: Political yes, because some of the necessary evils or some

784
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: of the procedures that are common and are meant to

785
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: provide some kind of inarguable benefit, those same procedures and

786
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: tactics and rules and bylaws can all be weaponized right

787
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: to have a negative effect, and especially you know, in

788
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: a two party system, that is a tremendous opportunity for

789
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: both sides. It kind of reminds me of how, like

790
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: the issue we talked about with gas stations, recently. All

791
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: of the same factors that make gas stations incredibly popular

792
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: and successful also make them incredibly prone to corruption, conspiracy,

793
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: and crime.

794
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, guys. We could talk about this a lot,

795
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: but let's jump to another quick story before we get

796
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: out of here. Do you guys remember somebody named Anne Woodjiski, Yes,

797
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't remember. She was the co founder, and she

798
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 2: was the CEO of a little thing called twenty three

799
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: and Me, And then we just talked about how twenty

800
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: three and Me filed Chapter eleven.

801
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: And then there was.

802
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: A bid from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals that one of you guys

803
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: brought up in Strange News pretty recently. For gosh, it

804
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: was a lot of money. Yeah, two hundred two hundred

805
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: something million dollars that two hundred fifty six million dollars

806
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: that they were going to purchase via auction twenty three

807
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: and meters and all of its stuff. Well and with

808
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: Jiski came through and said, Hey, I know we did

809
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 2: this auction thing. I know it's already complete, Regeneron's got

810
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: the stuff, but I'd actually like to do the auction

811
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: again because I have this new thing called TTAM Research

812
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: Institute and we'd like to make a different bid this

813
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: time a bid for three hundred and five million dollars.

814
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: And the folks in charge of the auctioning said, you

815
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: know what, that sounds better? Then that sounds better th

816
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: the one almost fifty million dollars better? So why don't

817
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: we reopen it? And now and with Jiski and her

818
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: TTAM Research Institute are now the proud reowners of twenty

819
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: three and meters.

820
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: Of your gently used genetic data. Also, Matt, sorry, I

821
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: have that chesure grid on while you're saying this, I'm

822
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: just got a weird energy. I just keep thinking of

823
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: dirty acronyms for TTAM. Do we have any idea what

824
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: it actually stands for?

825
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the words written out twenty three and me.

826
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: Clever clever. That's some real like doctor alu card energy

827
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: never figure out doctor acula.

828
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's just a weird, weird situation because you know,

829
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: in our previous discussions it was all about well, who

830
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: now owns all of this, you know, genetic data, and

831
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: what are they going to do with it? And why?

832
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: How what's happening? And now it's just the same folks

833
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: who are doing it in the first place that are

834
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: taking control again or at least some of the same folks.

835
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also talked about the process to remove your

836
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: data from twenty three in me, so if you have

837
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: concerns about that, folks, please check out our previous Strange

838
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: News when we talk about the original Regeneron bankruptcy move

839
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: or their attempted acquisition. We also include the instructions for

840
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: removing your data.

841
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: If you feel uncomfortable, you.

842
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: Should, Guys, have you ever been uncomfortable around a flight attendant?

843
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry, there's no way.

844
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: There's no way for me.

845
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 4: Yes.

846
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: If anything, I'm a little too comfortable because you guys

847
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: have seen it. Like, not in a sleazy way. I

848
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 3: just I love sitting in the window seat exit row,

849
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: and I admit I am often a bit too enthusiastic

850
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: when asked to give a verbal yes.

851
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 4: You are also really good at chatting up a flight attendant,

852
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 4: Ben that I don't mean that in a creepy way either.

853
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 4: You just ask good questions, especially if we're going somewhere abroad,

854
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 4: and you always get some good recommendations.

855
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: So my hat's on to you, shucks Man's that's the

856
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: flight attendants have a very demanding job, as we can

857
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: all agree, right, you'd be surprised how how much stuff

858
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: they have to put up with and how much they

859
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: do or don't get paid. But you do get to

860
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: travel the world. There's there's that.

861
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: Hey, that's great. That's what we're talking about here, last story.

862
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: We're not even going to go through the whole thing.

863
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: You should look this up. Don't try it at home though.

864
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's on a plane.

865
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Well, also, don't do that, especially at an international airport.

866
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: You could look this up. I found it on NBC News,

867
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: but I think it's on a bunch of other places too.

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Speaker 2: Look for man convicted of posing as flight attendant to

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Speaker 2: score over one hundred and twenty free flights, You brilliant bastards. Well,

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Speaker 2: here's the thing prove. I don't want to spoil it

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Speaker 2: too much because it is a pretty interesting show. Worry

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Speaker 2: just how this person, Alex Alexander made his way onto

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty different flights through three or more

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Speaker 2: different companies. Where there's this special thing y'all that I

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00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: didn't know. If you are a flight attendant, you can

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Speaker 2: get specific seats, sometimes their jump seats. Sometimes they're you know,

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Speaker 2: unsold seats on planes where you can use your badge

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Speaker 2: ID number, your date of hire, and who you work for,

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Speaker 2: and you can get on that flight and it's not

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00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: a problem. Nobody cares. You're you're a part of the

881
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: team in some way, the general team, and you're good. Well,

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00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: this person did work for an airline, they just were

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Speaker 2: not a flight attendant or a pilot, which are generally

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Speaker 2: the two classes of people who can make use of

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Speaker 2: the free flight program. He used other people's data, like

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Speaker 2: other people's badge numbers and dates of hire, to sneak

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Speaker 2: on to these flights.

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Speaker 4: Naughty boy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that we're talking a little bit about

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Speaker 3: this semi secret culture in the world of aviation. Deadhead flights.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's where a pilot or a flight attendant

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Speaker 3: or another professional will hop a plane just to get

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Speaker 3: to their next port of call or.

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Speaker 4: The half of this assignment jam band related. I get

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Speaker 4: it now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, let's see what Dylan says. He says at

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Speaker 3: that point, just apply for the flight attendant position. That's

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Speaker 3: a good points true, also true. How do you get

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Speaker 3: away with this? I know we don't have too too

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Speaker 3: much time, but how.

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Speaker 2: Do you wirefraud is how you get away with it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, to be the technical violation.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's using other people's information to get on

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Speaker 2: these flights.

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Speaker 4: Well that's the thing though, right because I mean, we

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Speaker 4: know how hard it is to get onto the flights,

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Speaker 4: and flight attendants are still subject to verification and the

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Speaker 4: manifest and all that. You've ever been on a flight

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Speaker 4: that was delayed because one crew member didn't show up

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Speaker 4: and that have to redo all the paperwork and everything.

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00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: I mean that there's serious business. So this person definitely, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: why didn't they just get the job? Maybe they didn't qualify?

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Speaker 4: How did they do it?

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Speaker 2: It was thirty different IDs like badge numbers from seven

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Speaker 2: different airlines, and this person claimed he went through TSA

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Speaker 2: security like everybody else does. He made it onto the

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Speaker 2: plane one hundred and twenty times under false free censis,

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Speaker 2: which is crazy.

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Speaker 3: And he had to be I imagine specifically trying to find

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Speaker 3: identities that were not too far off from him, Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, does he rock up to the counter and

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Speaker 3: they say, oh, hello, Samantha Aberdeen nineteen years old? You

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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know how it works.

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Speaker 2: They don't go into the details here of like how

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Speaker 2: he actually pulled it off, but he is facing a

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Speaker 2: maximum of three years of supervised release and a two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty All are fine, That's all I got, guys.

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,600
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Speaker 2: three minutes. Give yourself a cool nickname and let us

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,560
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Speaker 2: a call back lately, it's because our internal system doesn't

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Speaker 2: bugs on that, but hopefully the shadows will reach back

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Speaker 2: out yeah again sometime.

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