WEBVTT - Michael Tomasky & Miles Taylor 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:13.000 today's best minds, and Ukraine and European leaders are urging 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.680 Trump not to strike a piece deal in Alaska. Without them, 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.119 we have such a great show for you today. The 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.200 great New Republic editor in chief Mike Tamaski stops by 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.120 to talk about what a perilous position we find ourselves in. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:32.840 Then we will talk to former Trump administration official Miles 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:37.400 Taylor about what is making Trump tick during this second 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:41.360 term and his takeover of the District of Columbia. But 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.080 first the news Somali. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.319 Something that I have observed and I always like when 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.040 data backs up the things that I pretty much assume 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.000 to be true no matter what, because it makes me 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.040 feel real smart, which is that spending is climbing among 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.840 the rich as everyone else's debt is rising and their 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:58.920 spending is lowering. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.640 It's important to remember that the CBO said of the 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.679 BBB that it would hurt the people in the lowest 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.800 twenty percent the most, it would help the people in 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.399 the highest ten percent the most. So you make sense, right, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.440 The people who have the least are going to be 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:23.640 hurt the most by this and reduction in hospitals. We're 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.760 going to see Medicare insurance premiums are going to go up. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.040 Plus we have these tariffs. You know, the Yale Budget 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.560 Lab estimates that the tariffs will be twenty four one 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:41.119 hundred dollars a year extra for American families. That is inflationary. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.360 It just seems very clear. Now. The good news is 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:49.520 Donald Trump has fired all of the statisticians. So even 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.600 though people are not spending money, and the rich people 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.480 are spending in a way that does not actually support 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.960 the rest of us, the good news is we won't 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.720 know because all of the statisticians will be either fired 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.560 or attacked by Donald Trump. I'm thinking about the Goldman 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.680 Sachs analysis. They talked about how tariffs are actually being 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.600 paid for by the consumers and not the companies. I 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.280 know who Donald Trump then attacked is how dare you 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.799 say that the tariffs that are And by the way, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.440 I think this is a great moment to remember that 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.200 this is basically the same as a flat tax, right, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.320 It's a big sales tax that people who have less 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.520 it will mean it will be more of their incomes. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.480 Every time I hear about this, and I think about this. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:33.400 I just hear that. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.400 Time he yelled, we have to slow it down about 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.639 testing COVID because it's the same energy. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.519 That's a really good point. Yeah, if you don't test, 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.080 you won't know. If you don't I mean, it's like 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.519 with the climate change stuff, right, if you shoot the 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.800 satellites or I don't know what they take the satellites down, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.000 you won't know about the climate change. You know, if 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.400 you don't fund Noah, you won't know about the bad weather. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:01.120 I mean, this is really really, really stupid. And the 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.480 medical research. I mean, we're just literally in the dumbest, 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.400 I think, dumbest possible timeline. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.760 Yep. Speaking of the Appeals Court has let the White 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.240 House to spend or end billions in farn eate, which, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.239 for those who are not versed and with this is 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.080 shorthand for a whole lot of death. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.519 So I think there's two important points to the foreign 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.639 aid question. One is, morally, it's a reprehensible, right. These 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.400 are these kind of investments that are pretty small in 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.679 the grand scheme of spending, you know, not as much 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.200 as blowing up the moon or something that the Trump 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.760 administration might be interested in doing or money to elon 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:43.680 for whatever. These are really, you know, pretty small investments, 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.680 and there's two reasons why we do them, right. One 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.960 is because it's morally correct, But the other reason is 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.960 because people hate us. Right as a country, we are hated, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.160 and one of the reasons we're hated is because we've 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.600 tried to, you know, bring democracy the world and they 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.240 haven't loved us for it. So one of the reasons 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.920 why we do this is big return on investment. You 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:13.360 stop a pandemic in sub Saharan Africa, you a protect yourself, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.279 you be saved some people, and you see you prevent 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:21.159 a group of terrorists from emerging from there too. You know, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:25.080 there's just a lot of reasons why America got involved 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.080 in soft power, and none of it was because they're 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.920 good people. It was mainly because of the ROI. So 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.440 now Trump has been like, yeah, that's a waste, right, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.960 four billion dollars on global health. By the way, four 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.120 billion dollars on global health. We spend that on like 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.200 whatever we spend. You know, Trump is going to spend 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.320 that on like four planes. Yeah, exactly, six billion for 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.400 HIV and AIDS programs. He thinks that the foreign aid 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:55.960 spending is wasteful versus like Jadie Vance's vacation budget, which 0:04:56.240 --> 0:05:02.520 is just muney well spent to raise in Ohio and 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.480 find out what the people in the Cots world think 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:07.960 of shady bands. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.359 I was personally told, they hate us for our freedom. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.839 But whatever you say with this revision in history, So Molly, 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.320 there's always these things now where you know, Trump is 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.400 finding himself between a rock and a hard place with 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.840 the base and the influencers are in the base, because 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.760 the influencers in the bass always have to do this 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.880 thing where they're waging a class word and they're like, 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.560 you liberal potheads are so awful. But Trump really keeps 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.720 thinking about how he keeps himself preserved, and he's like, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.440 maybe some weed reform will make me a little more popular. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:40.520 What do you see in here? 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.440 Marijuana reform is super popular. There are a lot of 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.039 people who are getting older and older, including baby boomers 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:53.640 right who are probably in need of like meddicinal marijuana. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.880 It's legal in a lot of states. So the idea 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.599 that they're not going to reclassify it. I think that 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.359 the reason why Trump will classify this is because he 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.760 thinks it will help him electorally. But the reason to 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.760 reclassify it is because it's ridiculous. It's already not illegal 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.400 in many places. So I think it's like one of 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.159 these things where you know, the worst person you know 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.480 has good ideas, right, the worst person you know meme. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.880 Yes, Yes, I'm very, very very familiar. And I think 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.760 that this is the thing, is that marijuana reform is 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.239 a very smart thing that will also lessen the burden 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.960 on our country of people being in jail who shouldn't 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.200 be there, which is also ruining lives. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.280 Yeah, I'd be shocked if Trump world is going to 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.039 be releasing people from jail. Sure, but I do love that. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:46.120 Matt Walsh from The Daily Wire very mad. No country 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:50.400 of podheads has ever thrived or ever achieved anything at all. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.040 Every city that legalized is it becomes a bigger shitthole. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:59.279 Basically overnight. America deserves better, Our kids deserve better. I 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.320 don't want to be smelling weed anytime I take my 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.200 kids to a city or national park. That's Maga podcaster 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:07.720 Jack Pasobiac. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.520 Yeah, I got bad news for them. A lot of 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.440 our American innovation has been fueled by someone smoking pot 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.640 and having a great idea. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.360 I totally disagree with that, and I think that pot 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.880 makes you really stupid, and I'm sober. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.720 You know, obviously, yes, but there's also scientific evidence that 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:25.760 that's not correct. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.120 Oh No, pot definitely makes you stupider. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.440 Pot makes you stupider, but it also inspires better ideas 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.480 than the present that's scientifically proven. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.640 No, it's not. You sound like Joe Row. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:37.280 Yes it is. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.960 We'll get a scientist on here and we'll talk about it. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.560 I wrote a book on creativity and science. If you 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.840 were called, I actually am an expert on this subject. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.080 There's countless universities that cite this that don't want to 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.320 smoke pot and brag about it. They reluctantly admit this. 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.080 If you're listening to this podcast and you think Jesse 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.080 is wrong, please send me a DM. I have open 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:59.720 dms on all the platforms. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.240 He's going to pull out this textbook from University of 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.920 Chicago's Creativity program that shows this study. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.280 Jesse is going to get schooled, so please text me. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:10.760 Okay. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.520 So debs are claiming victory at Texas redistricting and they 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.240 say that they killed this corrupt special session. I feel 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.080 like there's a lot of battles left to go here, Molly, 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:19.800 what are you thinking? 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:25.440 So again, we've been covering this because it is really Look, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.360 if they redistrict, they corruptly can keep the house, and 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.400 it's the beginning of possibly the I mean, I don't know, 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.560 I feel like every day is the beginning of the 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.960 end of American democracy. But this seems really, really, really 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.680 really bad. And the good news here is that he's 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.280 going to adjourn this session and he'll probably call another session. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.839 But their Democrats are going to keep fighting. I mean, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.920 this is something that really fucking matters if you want, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.400 like you know they talk about like sliding into its oraitarianism, 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:02.520 it's everything right, It's like them getting the house. It's this, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.680 it's that. So if you care about this, like find 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.280 out what METO is doing to raise money here, because 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.920 this is like actually a smart thing to spend your 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.559 money on. I don't know how you support these guys, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.480 but they're going to basically have to be out of 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.920 the state until November in order to keep this from happening. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.040 And Trump is going to try it in other places. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.079 But the hope is that Republicans there will be enough 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:29.880 Republicans who don't have brainworms and that this won't get through. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:39.400 We'll see it is really just absolute nightmare fuel. Mike 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.320 Tamaski is the editor of the New Republic and the 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:46.360 author of The Middle Out, The Rise of Progressive Economics, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:52.280 Welcome Too Fast Politics. Mike Tamaski, Hey, hi, hi, I 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.680 feel like everything is getting worse every week, every week. Right. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.600 Yeah, there might have been one week in June where 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.920 you took a little bit of a break, but I've 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.520 kind of been tracking it week by week, and except 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.840 for that one week, I can't remember where it was. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.400 Things have gotten worse every single week, and they certainly 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:12.320 got worse this week. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.280 I want to start with it what's happening in DC, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.000 because I don't know that everyone understands why it's bad. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.720 I think there are smart people who don't understand what 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.880 it means, why it's meaningful. I was on a panel 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.960 with some one today who was saying, well, you know, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:35.240 crime is a problem, which again, and the Democrats shouldn't 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.960 say crime isn't a problem. I agree that it's not 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.440 good to not talk about what's happening, you know, like 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.840 saying inflation isn't a problem. But I also think you'll 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.920 notice something Donald Trump does. But I think that when 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:54.240 you look at what's happening with these government occupiers in DC, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:58.840 they can't actually prevent crime or homelessness. Right, What is 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.000 their job these people? 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.440 Yeah, their job is to go arrest some black kids 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.600 and get footage for Fox News of them them putting 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:07.840 handcuffs on black kids. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.920 But they can't actually arrest people. The DC police are 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.240 the only people can arrest. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.360 They can do what they want. Donald Trump does what 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.679 he wants, and people who are under his orders can 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.520 do what they want until the courts demonstrate otherwise. Look, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.120 first of all, yeah, the numbers are real, the crime 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.200 members are real. They're down. It's down. I live a 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.079 few miles from the district up in Maryland since the pandemic, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.280 and we don't have an office down there anymore. Even 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.600 I don't go down there that much, but sometimes I 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.520 do go take like long bike rides on a Saturday 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.520 or Sunday afternoon. I go through all parts of the city. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.720 I mean all parts. I go through Southeast Anacostia, you know, 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.480 where some people would have got to go. I've never 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.760 felt anything. I've just never felt anything. Now that's not 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.960 to say that other people might not. And they're apparently 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.400 carjackings specifically are approblem and that's a scary thing. You know, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.640 you're sitting at a red light at ten o'clock at 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.280 night and all of a sudden these people come and 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.560 smash their car windows and take care. That's terrifying. So 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.760 if that happens to people, you don't care. They don't 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.520 care about the statistics. I get all that, But like, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.720 if Donald Trump wanted to come in and say, gee, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.120 I'm concerned about these car jaggings. I want to give 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.319 the DC Police Department some help in addressing this problem, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.959 then they'd work with the police department, they'd work with 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.440 the mayor, they'd work with the police commissioner, who they've 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.640 been making fun of for the last two days. And 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.440 you know, they'd say, where do we need to be? Well, 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.560 you need to be at the intersection of Rhode Island 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.840 Avenue and you know, seventeenth Street northeast or wherever. I 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.920 just made that up, but that's the kind of part 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.480 of town where these things might be happening, and they'd 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.440 deployed people there and they'd do that. But instead, currently 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.800 they've got people standing outside the Lincoln Memorial and the 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.840 Jefferson Memorial. Yeah, I bet you there hasn't been anything 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.800 more than a pickpocket at the Lincoln Memorial or Jefferson 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.560 Memorial in years. You know, he's not trying to He's 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.559 just trying to do divert from Epstein and do some 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.840 kind of bullshit racist thing of the sort that he 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.760 always does. And you know, all you had to do 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:11.960 was listen to that press conference Monday and just the 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.000 way he talked about not only Washington but cities in general. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:17.800 It's Archie Bunker all the way. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:23.160 No. Absolutely, And so the question then becomes, he had 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.280 the force in Los Angeles they laughed, right, because there 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.960 wasn't really anything for them to do. He's going to 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:34.360 have it in DC. The question is he can only, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.080 by the way, legally, he can only do it for 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.520 thirty days. Not that legality matters to any of these people, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.320 but if you were technically that is I think relevant. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.640 But I just am curious, like, what do you think? 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.040 What's the goal here? 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:48.240 Is? 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.840 The goal is for footage for Fox News and to 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.560 just draft. The goal is I think to scare people. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.320 Yeah, it's all those things. Yeah, I suppose in his 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:03.200 mind these are trulydangerous hellholes, and he's saving people. But 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.520 I'm sorry. I live near the District of Columbia. It's 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.720 not a hell New York City's not a hell hole. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.120 You know, there are certain neighborhoods of all cities. Of course, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.040 there are more dangerous than other neighborhoods. But if you 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.920 want to do something about that, it takes commitment, it 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.040 takes time, it takes money. I think I know the route. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.400 I've plotted it out anyway on Google Maps, from the 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.080 White House to Trump National Golf Course, and I know 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.480 that he goes past this thing on this place called 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.680 the street called the East Street Expressway, and there's where 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.080 it broadens into the thing that connects you to Interstate 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.920 sixty six. There's this little green sward and there are 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.360 some tents. There are four or five eight tenths there. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.320 I guess they're gone now, but he drove past those 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.160 handful of tents, and that's probably the whole thing. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.200 Yeah, that's probably what it is. And you know, these 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.440 people will not necessarily fix homelessness at all. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.800 No, that a lot of money. I mean, you know 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.560 that takes a lot of money. So he says these 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.600 people are going to be given a place to stay 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.800 but far from the capitol. Well, let's see what that 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.600 is and let's see how long that is. You know, 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.080 they're probably going to put them in some hotel in 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.520 Prince George's county for two weeks or something like that. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.360 It reminds me of New York mayors putting homeless people 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:19.840 on the bus to Florida. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.120 Yeah, or the southern governors, you know, putting migrants on 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.640 the bus to New York and then took it. And 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.200 of course we know that they took a billion dollars 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.560 and a big beautiful bill. They took a billion dollars 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.600 out of District of Columbia fund. So it's an abomination 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.400 and it's police state stuff. And you know, it's getting 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.880 edging us closer and closer to the point where the 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.600 military of the United States can arrest citizens. You know, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.240 we're not there quite yet, but we're getting to the 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.120 point where the military of the United States, which is 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.920 supposed to go out and fight wars, will be arresting 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.120 the citizens of the United States. And that's fascism. Where 0:15:59.120 --> 0:15:59.840 the capital is. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.360 You and I have been doing this for a while, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.240 you slightly longer. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.000 Than I have, with great results. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.200 Right because I'm much younger than you are much It 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.040 seems like even in twenty sixteen, there were people who 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.520 were poised to at least look like they might get 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.480 us out of this mess. It didn't happen to be true. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.520 But there was a Bob Maler, there was this. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:21.200 It was that. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.520 It doesn't strike me that there's anyone like that at 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:30.200 this time. And the redistricting stuff seems pretty ominous, right, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.160 I mean, Texas is really interested in redistricting, which giving 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:39.280 the Trump five more seats, So maybe that happens. If 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:44.320 it happens, California goes down that road, and then you know, 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.400 that's five seats in California. I mean, it really negates 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.000 the entire democratic system. You know, we're starting then there's 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.000 a seat here and a seat there, and Republicans can 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.400 probably make it so that they keep the House by redistricting. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.720 I mean, it's not impossib but it's certainly possible. It 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.640 strikes me as really bad, So talk us through that. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.959 It's totally possible that they could keep the House. And 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.280 you know, first of all, let's just back up and 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:16.680 say this is insane that this is happening in twenty 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.199 twenty five I don't know the history well enough to 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:23.720 say definitively that there's no precedent for it. Somebody probably 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.400 tried this somewhere along line, I guess, but it's in 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:32.000 the Constitution. They discussed it at the Constitutional Convention at length. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.359 I read James Madison's notes. They decided to do it 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.439 every ten years. That was a big compromise. After they 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.840 debated about a lot of stuff. They decided to do 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.840 it every ten years. They decided a congressional district was 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.919 thirty thousand seats I think it was, and then on 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.480 the very last day of the Constitutional Convention they changed 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.240 that to forty thousand. My point being, it was a 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.280 subject of heated conversation the court Supreme Court cases in 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.760 the early nineteen sixties that gave us what we call 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.399 now one man, one person, one vote, used to be 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.040 one man, one vote. Those were hotly, hotly contested. So 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.480 this has been a very controversial thing redistricting for our 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.720 entire history. But no president that I'm aware of, has 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.480 ever said, in the middle of the ten year period, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.400 I want you to do this now, and the governor, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:23.240 any governor so approached, should say, mister President, I'm sorry 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.520 Constitution says every ten years, I can't do that. It's 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:33.400 so that alone is just an absolute abomination against the Constitution. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.920 The fact that they're considering and now I see Abbot's 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.400 talking about maybe eight seats instead of five. This came 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.640 up just today, I think so. And is he really 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.959 good to arrest? Is he going to send troops? 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:48.800 He can't arrest people because what happens is it's not illegal, 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.679 so you can try to or I mean, this is 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.440 the thing. It's like Trump World has gotten so removed 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.520 from what is legal and what is illegal that they've 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.000 sort of just started making stuff. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.120 Yeah, well, if Donald Trump tells Texas Rangers, I say, 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:05.879 you go arrest them, what are they going to do? 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.439 The good news, if there is good news here, is 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:15.680 that if members of the Texas House stay out August nineteenth, 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.360 the session ends, and so Abbott will call another session 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.840 and then he can call another session. But November is 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.320 meant to be when it's over. So I don't know 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.879 that they don't try to push a pass November. But 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.320 November is the filing deadline, so you could theoretically right 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:35.360 out the clock on this. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.280 We could and I go, I know, works Packice like 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.640 curarently paying their hotel bills. Hope, I hope Richie Liberals 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.960 get it together. It said, you know, pay for these 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.760 people to stay out of the state for as long 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:48.359 as it takes. 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.399 I mean, the hero of this story, if I'm correct, 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.840 is bad All Rourke, who has fundraised this money for 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.000 these guys. Because as much as Pritzker can be helped, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:04.160 he's had to really be careful about the money situation, 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.520 because there's all sorts of ethical I mean, this is 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:13.600 like the joke. We got Trump doing bitcoin and selling 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:18.359 sneakers and financing this with that and doing every extra 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.919 legal maneuver in the book, and then we have Democrats 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.440 worried that they're going to do something that's going to 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:26.280 run a foul. 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.760 Well, you know, they care about the law, they have consciences. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.840 Well, and they'll also go to jail if anything goes 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.280 you know. I mean, it's just a totally different standard, right. 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.679 Yeah, completely different standard. Who's going to prosecute Donald Trump? 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.200 Let's talk about that. You know, I spend so much 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:47.720 time thinking about this, like scenario of say Trump isn't 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.760 able to do this redistricting thing. You really do see 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.560 how much he believes that if Republicans lose the midterm, 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.160 it's like he knows what he's doing is unpopular. 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.679 Yeah he does, and his agenda is dead, and you 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.520 know he's going to be investigated like crazy. Jamie Raskin 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.040 is going to be running the Judiciary late, which has 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.720 the power of holding impeachment earings and doing other kinds 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.880 of sect and it rains to be seen. I guess 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.600 we might run House oversight. But I hope they give 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:14.440 to somebody aggressive. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.440 I hope they'd made right now it's Robert Garcia. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.879 Garcia. Yeah, it's been really good, really good. So you know, 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.840 that's two aggressive people with subpoenas. Now they'll like or 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.840 subpoenas and they'll just as they did last time, you 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.399 know mcgahann and all those people, So they'll like nor 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.440 subpoenas again, and the Supreme Court will probably say, who knows, 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.479 you know, they don't have to I don't know, So 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.359 it'll just be a stalemate. But at least they'll be 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:43.560