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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with

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Speaker 2: you of our special guest. Austin Wells is an author,

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Speaker 2: spiritual teacher who helps a lot of people with their

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Speaker 2: spiritualism and well being. She has lectured and taught for

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Speaker 2: such organizations as the Omega Institute at Your Casey's Are

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Speaker 2: in Virginia Beach in the Sun Valley Wellness Festival. Her

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Speaker 2: book is called Soul Conversations Austin. First time on the program,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you George. You make people not want to sleep.

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Speaker 2: We keep everybody awake. How are you do?

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Speaker 3: How can you sleep when you know that your show exists?

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Speaker 3: Like you just want to listen and just learn. It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Tell us more about you.

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Speaker 3: I will, I will. I have been fortunate to do

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Speaker 3: my work for about twenty years now, and it's much

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Speaker 3: like you have a passion and a purpose. It's an

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Speaker 3: extraordinary thing when you know that you are able to

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Speaker 3: do something that can help people through moments when they're

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Speaker 3: without answers. And I I just am always grateful because

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Speaker 3: I'm one of those curious minds like yours that wants

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Speaker 3: to learn all the time. So what I love about

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Speaker 3: my work is I can never figure it all out,

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Speaker 3: and so I just am always entertained and fascinated and learning.

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Speaker 3: So I feel pretty pretty happy.

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Speaker 2: What was that moment, that big moment, Austin, when it

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Speaker 2: just started for you? When I was five five years old?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I know, super young. So my mom was

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Speaker 3: a model and I was in a fashion show. It

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Speaker 3: was a little bit of a dork as a kid,

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Speaker 3: and I had to be a bridesmaid with a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of tool My mom wasn't the kind of mom

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Speaker 3: you woke up in the middle of the night to

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Speaker 3: ask for help. So I did the only thing I

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Speaker 3: knew at the time, which was to and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, the walls in my room became kind of

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Speaker 3: gelatinous more or less, they seemed like they were wavy,

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Speaker 3: and all of these people came into my room. I

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Speaker 3: could see through them, and even though most of them,

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Speaker 3: I think all of them I didn't recognize at the time,

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Speaker 3: I had absolutely no fear. There was one woman that

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Speaker 3: came up to my bedside and she kind of gave

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Speaker 3: me a soul communication. So not with words, but just

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Speaker 3: with feeling that all of them were there to help me.

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Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, my bedroom became two dimensional

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Speaker 3: or another dimension, and when I looked to my right,

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Speaker 3: I could see the runway of the next day. And

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Speaker 3: so they allowed me to witness the fact I didn't

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Speaker 3: face plant, which was the big fear I had, but

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Speaker 3: helped me watch me go up the steps, and then

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Speaker 3: as I started down the runway, they had me become

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Speaker 3: the audience and feel the love and the support in

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Speaker 3: the room. And then they further helped me become just

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Speaker 3: the ether in the press since itself, and in that moment,

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Speaker 3: I knew there was no way I could fail. So

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Speaker 3: the minute that realization happened, the scene to my right,

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Speaker 3: that future moment dissipated. I was back in my room.

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Speaker 3: There were less people, There was just the gallon me,

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Speaker 3: and she just checked in with me, and then she

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Speaker 3: dissipated back into my walls and I fell asleep, and

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Speaker 3: the event of the runway the next day happened almost

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Speaker 3: exactly as I witnessed.

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Speaker 2: When you were five years old.

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Speaker 3: I was five. I was five.

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Speaker 2: Did you tell your parents about this?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I did, and God loved them. This was. I

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Speaker 3: think they just thought I had a really active imagination.

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Speaker 2: They didn't try to put you down or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: They did not institutionalize me at that age. No, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but it was. It was such a cool experience because

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Speaker 3: it gave me, you know, the awareness that were really

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Speaker 3: held that we're guided, that you can participate in your

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Speaker 3: future even if it hasn't happened. So it laid the

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Speaker 3: foundation for so many other things that I've explored within

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Speaker 3: my career. But yeah, it was a pretty profound experience

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Speaker 3: to have at five Austin.

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Speaker 2: You've called yourself a soul gardener. What is that?

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Speaker 3: I called myself a soul gardener because once I started

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Speaker 3: working in intuitive work and then that developed into mediumship,

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Speaker 3: the development of our soul. And then once I kind

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Speaker 3: and that took a bit of time to kind of

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Speaker 2: And when did we take calls next? Hour, you'll do

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Speaker 2: some readings, both because psychic question or a medium thing

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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Do you have spirit guides that help you?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I know that woman from that initial

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Speaker 3: experience has been with me because mother figures are nurturing

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Speaker 3: particular lifetime for me. So her presence has always been

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Speaker 3: very lovely. But as I've continued, and I really am

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Speaker 3: grateful for the clients I have because the breadth and

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Speaker 3: depth of their questions will open different dimensions to me.

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Speaker 3: And of recent I've been working with a collective called

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Speaker 3: the Collective of One and what's been really neat about

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Speaker 3: how their interceding is they're giving like inner dimensional conversations

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Speaker 3: And that's not something I sought on my own. It's

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Speaker 3: just something that's opened up. So guides are amazing, and

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Speaker 3: it's not just one guide. We have angels, our angels,

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Speaker 3: descended masters, guides or ancestors. We have a plethora of

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Speaker 2: You published your book Sole Conversation six years ago. Somewhere

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Speaker 2: during this period you had some kind of personal epiphany.

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Speaker 3: What happened, Well, the it's it's You would know this

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Speaker 3: because you've written books yourself. The exercise of writing a

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Speaker 3: because of some deadlines with my publisher, I had to

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Speaker 3: essentially just last this thing out in four months. So

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Speaker 3: I think part of my own personal intelligence was present,

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Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, I read the book George

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Speaker 3: when I finished, and I thought, oh my god, I'm

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Speaker 3: not living authentic like what I was asking and what

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Speaker 3: be reading this book. I realized I wasn't being authentic too.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you went through a change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I did, but I'm so grateful I

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Speaker 3: always feel that I have deep levels of compassion if

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Speaker 3: it feels a little bit more credible when either information's

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Speaker 3: coming from me or their ancestors to be, you know,

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Speaker 3: helping them. Right.

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Speaker 2: At some point, Austin, you became a grief cunselor as well.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because George the you know, I didn't start off

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Speaker 3: respect for people to deal with the vulnerability and the

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Speaker 3: perilous level that people come to me. And unless I

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Speaker 3: have all the knowledge, and as well, not all the knowledge,

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Speaker 3: I'm still learning, but as much as I can. So

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Speaker 3: I realized I knew nothing about how to comfort people

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Speaker 3: ability for a discarnent soul to communicate with a loved

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Speaker 3: you understand grief enough that you can guide them into

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Speaker 2: What causes grief uston just missing someone? What is.

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Speaker 3: I think it's change. I think it's I think we

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Speaker 3: anytime we go through I mean, so many of us

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Speaker 2: Just sitting at your favorite restaurant was taken away.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And I think that. But it's been an

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Speaker 3: And that that speaks to why I really wanted to

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Speaker 2: Can you turn grief into something positive and upbeat?

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Speaker 3: Yes, But I think that's what we want to do.

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Speaker 3: believe grief is like a pool, it's like an ocean.

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Speaker 2: I had a friend who passed away seven years ago

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Speaker 2: So I told one of his friends who he was

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Speaker 2: ready to go on the air. Can you at least

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Speaker 2: go check out his house or something? And he said sure,

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Speaker 2: So he did and he text me back and he

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Speaker 2: said the lights are on in his house, his car's

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Speaker 2: And so I said, go up to the house. See

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Speaker 2: what you can do. And he said, okay, and he did.

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Speaker 2: He said he's in the house. I said, well does

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Speaker 2: he Well, why isn't he coming to the door. Why

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Speaker 2: isn't he answering his text messages? He said, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: He's just sitting there. Well, he was dead. He was

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Speaker 2: And every once in a while, Austin, I'll hear a

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Speaker 2: song that reminds me of you. And it's what I've

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Speaker 2: tried to do, is convert the grief into something friendly

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Speaker 2: and positive and it's finally starting to work. What am

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Speaker 2: I doing right?

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Speaker 3: You're doing everything right. You're doing everything right because you're one.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about it too. You're using this forum, which

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Speaker 3: is you create such beautiful space towards for other people

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Speaker 3: that it's lovely for you to do a personal share

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Speaker 3: because what it does is it makes you more accessible

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Speaker 3: also allowing because am I correct that he had kind

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Speaker 3: of a divine sense of humor?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was weird, but he was al.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I think and he also do you

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Speaker 3: mind if I say a couple of things about him?

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Speaker 3: Is that all right?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Okay? What I like about him is is it he's

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Speaker 3: very like if there was ever any place that he

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Speaker 3: he's not a guy. He goes out of the house,

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Speaker 3: but he's really kind of a homebody. And so what

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Speaker 3: I find is how people die is very akin to

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Speaker 3: what they're comfortable with. And I also feel that you know,

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Speaker 3: he's not someone that would want a big scene. He

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Speaker 3: He doesn't like that kind of attention. You understand that, right,

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Speaker 3: He liked but not that kind, but not that kind, right.

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Speaker 3: So what I find is there is a mutability, I think,

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Speaker 3: it it kind of was on his terms and being

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Speaker 3: but there's also really kind of a reserve to him

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Speaker 3: his own way. But what you're doing right about it

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Speaker 3: is you're acknowledging the fact that his soul can give

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Speaker 3: you messages. You're feeling him, but you're also allowing yourself

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Speaker 3: to miss him too. And I just gets so hard.

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Speaker 2: And the grief is it's so unexpected. This was unplanned, unexpected.

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Speaker 2: He was there on a Monday, dead on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's but it also brings home our own mortality.

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Speaker 3: I had some friends today who reached out to me

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Speaker 3: because a mutual friend of all of ours did it

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Speaker 3: had exactly that experience. He was in a foreign country

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Speaker 3: initial information about him, I just said to them, I said,

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Speaker 3: but let's look at what possibly could be something that

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Speaker 3: he's trying to help us with. And we all kind

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Speaker 3: of talked about it, and we said, like, how prepared

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Speaker 3: are we if everything stopped today? Or do we have

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Speaker 3: a health director? Not a health director, but I mean,

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Speaker 3: do we have our affairs in order? Do we have

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Speaker 3: a living will? Or we do we know where things

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Speaker 3: I mean, what it is is that you think of

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Speaker 3: a life and as a continuum, and we're never finished

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Speaker 3: with the story. We will all leave in the middle

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Speaker 3: of something. But to allow your loved ones the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to be able to grieve instead of kind of do

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Speaker 3: your unfinished business is a very mindful and a very

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Speaker 3: different way of approaching death. Plus it gives you a

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Speaker 3: great sense of comfort. So then if something were to transpire,

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Speaker 3: everything is ready for whomever you know is going to

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Speaker 3: assist you with that.

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