1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: from how Stuff Works dot Com? Brought to you by 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: consumer Guy at Automotive we make carbine easier. Hi, and 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, the staff writer 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: here at how Stuff Works dot Com. With me is 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: the lovely and effervescent Charles Bryant, fellow staff writer. Are 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: you Chuck? I'm great, I'm effervescent and it feels good. Good. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're feeling good, Chuck? So Chucker's Uh? Have 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: you heard of peak oil? I have? Josh? You know, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: how can you not working here? Are you just? You're 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: always run around the office screaming about it? Well, you know, 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: I feel pretty passionate. You should tell everyone. Okay, well, 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: let me tell you again what peak oil is. It's 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: basically the point in time where we stop finding oil 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: and start running out and the inevitable decline begins because 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: oil is, after all, a non renewable resource. Contrary to 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: some of the heated opinions of a few of our 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: readers who believe that it actually is renewable. I haven't 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: figured out how But most people believe that petroleum is finite, 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: so we're eventually going to run out. And what happens 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: then is a mass chaos exactly exactly. We're all in big, 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: big trouble our Our global economy runs on oil, quite literally, 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: and we need it to function. Luckily, there's all sorts 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: of people who are working on alternative energy, where it 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: be biofuels, wind power, solar power, hydrogen. Who cares? We 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: need to get off oil, even Bush, the Texas oil man, 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: thinks America is addicted to oil. America exactly, so chuck. 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: While we're looking for new forms of energy in the meantime, 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: the conventional oil reserves, which are like, um, you know, 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: the stuff we pump out of the ground, think Jeg 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: clamp It shooting at the rabbit and missing in doubt. 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: I will eat your ice cream, right, it's not ice cream. Actually, 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: it's he'll drink your milkshake. I haven't seen it again. Yeah, okay, 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: So but that's conventional oil, right, yeah, all right. So 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: there's also unconventional forms of oil, which is you know, 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: pretty much anything but just conventionally pumped petroleum. Um. One 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: of them is oil shale. Yeah, um oil shell is 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: actually it's kind of a cool cool thing. It's really um. 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: The best way to most the simplest way to describe 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: it is that it's oil in uh that's trapped in 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: rock and it never had the chance really to become 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: liquid petroleum. It's sort of cut short before that last 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: step and uh, it was stripped of its potential. It was, sadly, 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and so it lies underneath the earth, um, just waiting 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: for someone to go down and find a way to 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: extract it, which is actually possible. Um, there's uh, there's 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: people that are working on that now. One of the 49 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: big problems with extracting oil shale, though, is is you 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: have to bring up this rock uh from the earth, 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: and the rock is the byproducts. So you're left with 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what was statistic how many 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: tons of rock? Seven yeah, seven tons of rock to 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: make one gallon of patrol petroleum And I'm not sure 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that's the actual statistic, but there is a significant amount 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of rock left. I was exaggerating, but it's a lot 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: of rock and they don't know what to do with it, 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and that's one of the issues. I Mean, the best 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: you can do is use it under overpasses to discourage 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: homeless people from setting up camp there, which is really 61 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: about as cruel use of rock as there is. It is. 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: But I think you know about um, the the Shell 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Oil Company's got a different methods. Were onto something it's 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: called institution retorting. Retorting is basically the process of extracting 65 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: the oil from the shale through heat. They figured out 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: that they can stick these rods down there and heat 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: up these oil shell deposits in the ground, right, so 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: they don't have the rock byproduct, right, the rocks never moved. Um, 69 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: so the carriage in which is the oil that's found 70 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: inside uh is extracted and pumped out and the rock 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: is left situated. It's just so no mining. They don't 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: have to mind the rock. And that's another step to 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: the process. And that is it is it cuts out 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: like a really really big expensive step. And and so 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: if Shell can crack this code, which it looks like 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to do this, they have 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: projects under way. Um, it would make America the new 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia as far as oil shal went. That's right. 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: Because of the Green River formation, which no one's probably 80 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: heard it heard it that it sounds like some sort 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: of you know, neo Nazi environmental group, But what it 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: actually is is it's seventeen thousand, thousands square miles of 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: oil shale that's under the United States. Yeah, it's out west, 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's near the four Corner States, just waiting 85 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: to be tapped. Yeah. And and we've known all about 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: it for a while. Um, but interest really began around 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three with the oil embargo against the US 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: by OPEC, when we realize how dependent we are in 89 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: fur and oil. So um, with this interest in oil 90 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: shell generated and then it waned because oil prices went 91 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: back down. And now with oil prices up as high 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: as they are, interests is getting getting up again. So yeah, 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: there's plenty more to talk about as far as oil 94 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: shale goes, and you can find out more by reading 95 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: what's oil shale on how stuff works dot com for 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: more on this and thousands of other topics. Does it 97 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com? Let us know what you think. 98 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Send an email to podcast at how stuff works dot com. 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: It's ready, Are you