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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Burrel, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. I

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Speaker 1: have on a Friday edition of the program. Week two

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Speaker 1: in high school football, Week zero in college was like

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Speaker 1: ten college football games account tomorrow and then the final

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Speaker 1: preseason game in National Football League. It will be US

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Speaker 1: and tomorrow seven o'clock going to be fun. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing? You're doing good? I'm doing on a Friday edition.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I had my first Fantasy draft last night,

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Speaker 1: a little little early, and I know nobody cares about

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Speaker 1: my teams, but I want to run just one, one

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Speaker 1: little thing by you because I think I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: get your taking keeper league. We're loaded up. I used

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Speaker 1: to pick at the end of the draft. Nobody was

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, so, I have the potential to

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Speaker 1: have this play don't lead, don't lead, potentially have this

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Speaker 1: player in this round for the next two years of

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Speaker 1: his career. Jamison Williams, Well, I like that a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. He's dude. He's a dude. Last two

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Speaker 1: receivers that people didn't draft early in fantasy drafts that

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Speaker 1: were rookies that were first round picks that missed basically

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Speaker 1: all of August and even some of the first few games,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and Justin Jefferson. I'm not saying he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be that good. Well he has if he's not injured,

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Speaker 1: a long build. I wonder if part of the reason

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Speaker 1: people forget about him is is that he's not on

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Speaker 1: hard knocks. You don't see him. There's no was the

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Speaker 1: first receiver taken to your point in the draft this year?

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Speaker 1: Was he? Yes? They go to spite being with despite yes,

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Speaker 1: him like six, So he was the first. For some reason.

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Speaker 1: I thought somebody snuck in there, but knows now I'm

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Speaker 1: remembering because we did all that receiver work. We talked

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I haven't run. Drake London did go first

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Speaker 1: I mean Jamison Williams has he has more top end

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Speaker 1: down is like a six one Tyreek Hill. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the hard knocks thing. I'll tell you there's this is

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah, this is It feels like the third

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Speaker 1: Petsy joining us on the hot line, the quarter of

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Speaker 1: coach that Cleveland Browns coach. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: taking the time. We were talking in the lead up there,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thanks for having me um and not

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Speaker 1: to uh, to be boring, but that that conversation is

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Speaker 1: Now we're going to get to see j. Kobe Brissette

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Speaker 1: his strengths that you like and what do you expect

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you talked about the leadership and

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Speaker 1: He certainly warrants that in his personality and rightly so.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were talking Drew about, you know, everything

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Speaker 1: From our vantage point, it feels like he's crushing that.

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Speaker 1: him every day the way that you are, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Josh Dobbs, because this is

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Speaker 1: incredibly smart, we've see that. The question was could he

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs now as that number two quarterback behind Jacobe Bricett. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even coach right away in the NFL because of that.

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Speaker 1: Think about how absurd that was versus Come on, I'm

428
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Speaker 1: just saying it is a tough thing. And obviously the

429
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Speaker 1: Browns and were under the microscope in the spotlight with

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. The Browns have also we're in the microscope

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Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett. And so here's two things. And then

432
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Speaker 1: at some point you have to wonder, how are all

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Speaker 1: these things different. Yes, they took place a different venue,

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Speaker 1: but if the argument was made that this was brought

435
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Speaker 1: embarrassment to the league, I'm talking now, I'm talking Miles Garrett. Yeah,

436
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: this certainly Aaron Donald's video would fall into the same vein.

437
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Speaker 1: It was incredibly dangerous and had he connected with an

438
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Speaker 1: exposed head, he could have like, no question, he could

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Speaker 1: have killed. Yeah, for sure. Same Miles was spending indefinitely

440
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Speaker 1: to end up being the remainder of the season, but

441
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Speaker 1: it was an indefinite suspension of the time that had

442
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Speaker 1: happened ended up being six games for the rest of

443
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Speaker 1: the year. At some point you have to be able

444
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Speaker 1: to compel. I mean, if we're really willing to overrule

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Speaker 1: federal judges on their decision making process. And I realized

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Speaker 1: that we ended up with a settlement, but we were

447
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Speaker 1: willing to challenge her, appeal her decision. You've got to

448
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Speaker 1: be able to flex your muscle over the Rams here. Now,

449
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Speaker 1: the Rams aren't just like the Browns wouldn't have No

450
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Speaker 1: team was ever going to suspend their own guy in

451
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Speaker 1: a situation like this. Did you hear Zach Taylor? Yes,

452
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Speaker 1: he said, we got it. He got we got into

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Speaker 1: a little scuffle. This was before anybody knew that the

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Speaker 1: video was going to get out. So again, this is

455
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Speaker 1: a it's a closed practice, open to the media, but

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Speaker 1: close practice. It's a joint practice, so there's no fans there,

457
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Speaker 1: but they probably could have incorporated partners. There would be.

458
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Speaker 1: They got into a fight. They were before third one. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 1: he downplayed it bigly, Like if you listen to him,

460
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Speaker 1: he had it. He was like, I got a little scuffle.

461
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Speaker 1: We just thought thought we'd stop it to play two

462
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Speaker 1: more and I'm like, what a little scuffle. So clearly

463
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Speaker 1: they didn't think that this was going to get out,

464
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Speaker 1: but it did. So probably what happens is there starts

465
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Speaker 1: to be a scuffle, someone pulls their camera, who's either

466
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Speaker 1: corporate partners or media somebody like that pulls it, hits

467
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Speaker 1: record and they capture it and guess what this is different.

468
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Speaker 1: It's different that there's video. It's different. We all saw it,

469
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Speaker 1: me swinging that like a lunatic. It's aggressive weapon as

470
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Speaker 1: a helmet. And I don't like if it's preseason, if

471
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Speaker 1: it's joint practices, we're not gonna How can you not

472
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Speaker 1: police something? And Gerard said it last night on The

473
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Speaker 1: Stefanski Show, He's like, that is a weapon, and if

474
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Speaker 1: used correctly, with how big and how powerful that man is,

475
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Speaker 1: it can severely hurt someone. It could kill. There's no

476
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Speaker 1: question if he hit somebody in the head in the

477
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Speaker 1: right way with a helmet, it's Aaron Donald. It's the

478
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Speaker 1: Thanos of the NFL. The same stuff that was said

479
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Speaker 1: about Miles applies here. I do. I'm acknowledging that there.

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Speaker 1: It's different because one is in a game on national

481
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Speaker 1: television and the other one is in a practice. But

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Speaker 1: the that does not change the two incidents. And so

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Speaker 1: if you want to say that this one is indefinite

484
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Speaker 1: ends up being six, this one can't be nothing correct.

485
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Speaker 1: What have we seen for the first two through the

486
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Speaker 1: first two preseason games, defensive lineman, offensive lineman wearing the

487
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Speaker 1: extra padding on their helmet to protect themselves from concussions,

488
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna trop that out and make and say

489
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Speaker 1: that that's okay. That guy was hitting people without padding.

490
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Speaker 1: It's crazy, It's really really crazy. You're right, it's not

491
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Speaker 1: a six game, but someone's got to do something here,

492
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Speaker 1: like you cannot use a helmet. They're gonna the the

493
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Speaker 1: the hypocrisy of it all is they will use the

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Speaker 1: c b A when it benefits them, of course, and

495
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Speaker 1: then not when it's just like when we were dealing

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Speaker 1: with the Robinson findings, and Goodell and anybody from the

497
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Speaker 1: NFL would read the parts of the findings that benefited

498
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Speaker 1: them and ignore the parts that didn't. They do the

499
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Speaker 1: same thing with the c BA. They do the same

500
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Speaker 1: thing with precedent. When it benefits some they'll use it.

501
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Speaker 1: When it doesn't, they break it. And there's no this

502
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Speaker 1: is what the players, this is what the the biggest

503
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Speaker 1: beef with this whole thing is all. We just want

504
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Speaker 1: this to be this type of stuff to be out

505
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Speaker 1: of your hands. Let's have a rule of law on this.

506
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Speaker 1: That was the point of it. Gerard said it best

507
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Speaker 1: last night on the show, and I keep going back

508
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Speaker 1: to it. These two teams should have never been joint

509
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Speaker 1: practicing together. Anyway, I disagree. I don't have problem I

510
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Speaker 1: have with But his argument was, look, if I were

511
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Speaker 1: a Bengals player, I haven't forgotten what happened in that

512
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and there's a little bit and there was

513
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Speaker 1: edge right from day one that this was day two

514
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Speaker 1: or joint practice. Right from the get go, there was chirping.

515
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it would be one thing

516
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Speaker 1: if it was if this happened and it was the

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Speaker 1: Bengals against the Steelers and joint practice where you see

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Speaker 1: him twice a week, twice a season. Um. I mean,

519
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Speaker 1: did the Bengals even play the Rams last year then

520
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Have they played him often? You know,

521
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Speaker 1: like they're probably not. You know, it's a super They're

522
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Speaker 1: not like heated rivals. This is these two coaches. Let

523
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Speaker 1: this get out of hand clearly, um. And and there

524
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Speaker 1: wasn't an agreement on how to go about handling all

525
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Speaker 1: of this, no question, I don't. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it made a difference that they played in the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl not Gerard played him, so you'll I'll defer to

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Speaker 1: him on that, But to me, I think this was

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Speaker 1: more just this they took. You know, they took a

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Speaker 1: pebble and it turned into a boulder because nobody stopped

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Speaker 1: the pebble. I couldn't agree more. And I as you

532
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Speaker 1: met Burrow, I brought that up to Gerard last side,

533
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Speaker 1: I said, Burrows the deity. He's like, no way, it's not.

534
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Speaker 1: It's practice. Yes, it is. It's practice. This is not

535
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Speaker 1: a game with steaks. Yeah. And they allowed it to

536
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Speaker 1: get as you said, completely and it got completely out

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Speaker 1: of And that's the most that's the most ridiculous NFL

538
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Speaker 1: brawl we've seen, because that was a full scale brawl

539
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: miles happened in a split second. One person lost their

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Speaker 1: way and he was punished accordingly. This is a full

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Speaker 1: scale melee in the midst of which one person lost

542
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Speaker 1: their way. And it also happens to just once again

543
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: be a very prominent player. And and Aaron Donald. It's

544
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Speaker 1: wild watching it, and I've watched it a bunch of times.

545
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Speaker 1: It is a wild thing to watch. I don't see

546
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Speaker 1: how he's not He's got to be dinged. Are you kidding?

547
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Speaker 1: This is the thing. It's selective. It is selective because

548
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: guess what, you know, what's not happening about this other

549
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: than I'm sure Brown's fans who would say, oh, this

550
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: should happen, or maybe maybe fans in the NFC West

551
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: who are of Niners and Seahawks and Cardinals. Oh yeah,

552
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: something shoppen, Errol Dolt. Nobody cares. This isn't a cultural movement.

553
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: And I'm shocked, honestly right now. The thing that checks

554
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: me the most about I'm not seeing a ton of

555
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: stuff other than from really a handful of people commenting

556
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: at all about the Bills Punter. Oh no, that's that's

557
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: gotten very little. Neither neither have quite frankly, neither one

558
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: of them have had much, which to me is wild. Yeah,

559
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: like you can think whatever you want. Everybody's inside of

560
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: their own opinion about Deshaun Watson and the number and

561
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: allegation the allegations made against this guy aren not not

562
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: in the same realm. No of crime, No, no, and

563
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: the the the Donald thing. I don't see how it's weird,

564
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Speaker 1: how it's good point an of you. It's weird how

565
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: there's been no outrage today about It's like it happened

566
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: in a vacuum and it's gone, except it didn't. No, listen,

567
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, things out there. You don't hear about that.

568
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Speaker 1: There's it's so I just curious. I pulled up. I

569
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: just was curious where if this is on ESPN's front

570
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Speaker 1: page day, So I just ESPN dot Com just pulled

571
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Speaker 1: it up. Boy, they're really tapping into the really tapping

572
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Speaker 1: into the heartbeat of America right now. The number one

573
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Speaker 1: story they have is the price and payoff of kelsey

574
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Speaker 1: Plums lifelong obsession with winning. That's the number one story. Um.

575
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Speaker 1: They have a baseball extension with the Mariners. That Rodriguez

576
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Speaker 1: getting a four mill Kelsey Plums. She plays in the

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Speaker 1: w n b A. They're in business with the w

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Speaker 1: n b A. All right, So then you've got Cuban

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Speaker 1: pitcher may get record bonus suits ledge across over with

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Speaker 1: Ashley Shaffer BMW for her big market. I think you

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Speaker 1: might have it suits alleged form and sexually. So that's

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Speaker 1: the George Foreman story Live Golf. Uh they here's the

583
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Bill's story. That's sixth one down. There's not Aaron Donald

584
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Speaker 1: is not on the front page. It was the front page.

585
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: It's not on the front page of ESPN dot com today.

586
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Now that's that's the Worldwide Leader. Nothing it's again. I mean,

587
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: I get this, but and I don't know what it

588
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: was like. When I don't know what this was like,

589
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I know for sure Myles would have been on the

590
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: front page that day. I'm NFL dot com. No mention

591
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: of it. Nothing, that's your telltale sign right there. Yeah, Okay,

592
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: so it's a non story. Um so Florio's got it.

593
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: He's got it. Fourth Ram should suspended Aaron Donald, and

594
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: if they don't, the NFL should so at least consistency

595
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: from Florio. Does he have anything on the Buffalo guy? Uh,

596
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: there's nothing com whitworth yesterday for saying that his phone

597
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: was busy. There is something on NFL dot com. It's

598
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: the tenth story on Areza. Yeah, but there is, uh yeah,

599
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: and he has it. Florio's got it too. Floria has

600
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: got the Areza thing too. It's like fifth fifth story.

601
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: I feel like we were the number one story for

602
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: four months. I understand the difference between a rookie punter

603
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: and a franchise quarterback. Again, in the contract, I get

604
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: all of it. I'm not I get it. But also

605
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: the crimes alleged are wildly different. And the Donald part

606
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: of this is crazy to me. That we're just gonna

607
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: walk and be like no big deal practice practice. By

608
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: the way, these joint practices, there are many games. There

609
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: are many games, is what they are. They're a work around.

610
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: They're a work around, is what they are. You have

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Speaker 1: to get a guaranteed situational work correct. Correct, That's what

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Speaker 1: those are. Nuts Um. Then from the extra do the

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Speaker 1: top twenty players in the NFL. Aaron Donald's in the

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Speaker 1: top five. I bet you that you get to that.

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Speaker 1: are I'll read the twenty. Here's your twenty, all right.

637
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Josh Allen, Tom Brady, Aaron Donald, Myles, Garrett Derrick,

638
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Henry Tyree Kill, J C. Jackson, Justin Jefferson. Wow, what

639
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: an ascent. Travis Kelsey Beast, I know he is, but

640
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: that's a heck of an ascent. Cooper Cup wasn't even

641
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: ranked one season with Stafford Top twenty. Shaquille Leonard, Who's

642
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: that's Darius Leonard? Now he's Jack Leonard. He's thirty seven.

643
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Micah Parsons. That's a heck of an impact

644
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: as a rookie. Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers, Deebo Samuel for

645
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: unranked to top twenty, Jonathan Taylor from unranked to top twenty,

646
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, and Trent Williams. So those are your

647
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: top twenty in no particular order. Um, well, I'll tell

648
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: you what. If I'm gonna say that number one, let's

649
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: do Let's do our top five five to one. Let's

650
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: do five to one. I'll give my five, you give

651
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: your five. Let's go five to one if you can,

652
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: if you think you can. Yeah, I'm just trying to

653
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: do this on a fly. Here, Um, snap decisions how

654
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: I think they will be, or how it will be

655
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: whatever I wanted to be. This is what I would

656
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: do is my top five off of this list. I

657
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: think that this all right? Let me just have this

658
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: caveat out there. I would have five quarterbacks. Okay, I

659
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: do not have five because it's the most important position

660
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: by a hundred miles. So somehow you have to separate

661
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks from quarterbacks importance versus non quarterback importance. So that's

662
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: what feel like I did that I have two quarterbacks

663
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: in my top five. Is my spoiler. This is based

664
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: on last year, right, Well, it's based on last year.

665
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: But the other thing is is like you have the

666
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: reference of what happened in the postseason two. Of course,

667
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: sure you do. All right, all right, I'll go with

668
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 1: my number five for you right here, my number five

669
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: And this was a little bit controversial, but not be

670
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: got not on Brown's Daily. Miles Garrett. Yeah, I mean

671
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: he's I mean, all these guys are are really really good. Yes,

672
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: I put him five. They're gonna be People say, well

673
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: t J wat had more sax, he's better. Miles Garrett

674
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: got a ninety nine from men the defense rests. That's

675
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: your that's your go to Is you get a ninety nine? Man? Yeah?

676
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Who are the mad ninety nines this year? There's like

677
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: a couple a few. He's one of them. He's one

678
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: of them. All right. I mean I'm having to spit

679
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: ball this. I'll go Trent Williams five. Alright. My number

680
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: four is going to be Josh Allen same okay, Yeah,

681
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: I wrote him down his four. My number three is

682
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 1: going to be Cooper Cup Okay. And here's the case

683
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: for that, all right, because I'm sure that is a controversial. Gibbe,

684
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: can you give me are you available he's editing b

685
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: p A s. All right, give me a Cooper Cup

686
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: guests the stats from last season. Regular season, Cooper Cup catches,

687
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: yard sutdowns. That's all you gotta give me. Cooper Cup

688
00:35:51,480 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: last season probably a hundred fifteen catches. Take that hundred

689
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: yards and eleven touchdowns. Okay, I'm gonna go one two,

690
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: sixteen seventy. I actually wrote down eighteen seventy six, but

691
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: I think that's too high, So I'm gonna go sixteen

692
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: seventy six and fifteen. So Cooper Couple last year won

693
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: the Triple Crown. I knew that he caught balls for

694
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: one thousand nine right there in forty seven yards that's

695
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: his regular season, and sixteen touchdowns. In the playoffs, in

696
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: four games, he catches thirty three balls for four hundred

697
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: eighty yards and six touchdowns. Che's that's sick. I should

698
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: have stuck with my initial gut gim you were five,

699
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: you get thirteen hundred yards and you were fifteen percent off.

700
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Fifty percent off. Yeah, at thirteen years he was fifty

701
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: percent off. My original guess, Yeah, you're you're close. Damn you.

702
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: No numbers and what he meant to that team? How

703
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: can you not include the postseason when factoring in the

704
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: m v P he was and he was the offensive

705
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: player of the year. Here's the problem. Here's the problem.

706
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: Though he's not as important to his own team as

707
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. I don't know, no, I do, yes, I do,

708
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: I do yes. The two years before has been good

709
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: for a while. The two years before combined combined a

710
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six catches, so forty one more. These

711
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: are two seasons. Two seasons. He's got two thousand, one

712
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: thirty five yards, so not even two hundred yards more,

713
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: and third team touchdowns three touchdowns fewer. That's the problem.

714
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: But I mean what he did, No, I understand, and

715
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: at some point everything those he's getting the ball correct

716
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: and he got seventy. The thing that Booie's his case

717
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: even more, and I think I like that you have

718
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: him on this especially I had Donald third and I'd

719
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: rather not put him anywhere. Um. But but based on

720
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: what you just said, you gotta remember Woods went down,

721
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Robert Woods goes down with an injury, and was that

722
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: November November. Woods goes down Odell's in the day they

723
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: signed Odell. So Woods goes down, O'Dell comes in and

724
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: then in the Super Bowl, O'Dell goes down and he's

725
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl V and he's the Super Bowl MVP.

726
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. Yeah, you probably have that. That's that's

727
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: a good job out of you. I don't have a

728
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: problem that ridiculous. When's the last and sixteen? When is

729
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: the last time somebody is that the greatest receiving season

730
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: in NFL history. That's what I'm saying, Like, is Calvin

731
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: Johnson's best? What's Randy and Calvin's best? Calvin had a

732
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: two thousand yard season, Randy had the one season in

733
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: New England. He had the one season in New England

734
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: that was crazy where he almost had like thirty touchdowns.

735
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: So the best receiving season of all time is the

736
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice where he had what's the ming touchdowns? Right, yeah,

737
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: Jerry had that one that was crazy. You get Calvin's best,

738
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Randy's. I just want to see you

739
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: pretty sure that's the second most receiving yards all time.

740
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. All right, Randy's best season, Randy's best

741
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: season is in New England. It's an oh seven, he's thirty, um,

742
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: it's ninety eight catches, fourteen nine three, three touchdowns, fifteen

743
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: yards of catch. He had a year though in New

744
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: England boy his rookie year, he averaged nineteen yards of reception.

745
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: His third season in Minnesota, it was fourteen thirty seven

746
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: fifteen touched. But it's not what's Calvin's. So Calvin's that

747
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of two seasons. In two thousand and eleven

748
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: he has ninety six catches one yards and sixteen touchdowns.

749
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: Still not as good. The next year he has one

750
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four and somehow only five touchdowns, which is crazy.

751
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: So his best year's nineteen. So that I think nineteen

752
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: sixty four is the most that there's ever been. So

753
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a two thousand, so it's probably the

754
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: all time record. So Jerry Rice in nine five at

755
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: thirty three, Jerry Rice is one two, eighteen forty eight

756
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: and fifteen. That's Jerry's best year. You could argue his

757
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: best year. Jerry has a year where he averages twenty

758
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: yards of catch in eight twenty yards of reception for

759
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: which is which is crazy. It's amazing he'd never won

760
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: an m v P. He had twenty two touchdowns in

761
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, but just a thousand yards, but it

762
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: was only in twelve games, so Cooper Cup was seventeen

763
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: yards from breaking this. So here are the top five

764
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: all time. You've got Calvin Johnson, what was his number,

765
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four and five touchdowns, Cooper Cup. That's crazy,

766
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup nineteen forty seven and sixteen touchdowns. By the way,

767
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty five catches is the second best

768
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: number here. The best number on here that I see

769
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: is Mike Thomas who had a hundred and forty nine

770
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: catches in two thousand and nineteen. But Julio Jones third,

771
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: one thirty six, eighteen seventy one, and eight, Jerry Rice

772
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: in eighteen forty eight and fifteen, Antonio Brown. So of

773
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: the people in the top twelve receiving yard seasons, ever,

774
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: he has the most touchdowns of the top twelve seasons.

775
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: One thing I don't want it to minimize, but seventeen

776
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: games versus sixteen fair? Fair, also fair, but his sixteen

777
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns are the most. Then you've got Antonio Brown in

778
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: two thousand, fifteen, one six, eighteen thirty four and ten,

779
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Ike Bruce nineteen nine five one, nineteen seventeen eighty one,

780
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: and thirteen. I would not have remembered in YEA with

781
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: the Rams Great show on turf. You're still four years

782
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: away from the Great Shoar on Turf is St. Louis.

783
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: There's still in l A at that point. I don't

784
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: even know who that is. Now, this says St. Louis.

785
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: So it must have been their first year in St. Louis.

786
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: The must have left out, but it wouldn't have been Warner.

787
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't even know whose quarterbacking them at that point

788
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: in MS. Sure, okay, Charlie Hennigan in nineteen sixty one

789
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: with unbelievable eighty two seventeen forty six, just twenty one

790
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: point three catch and twelve touchdowns and who knows how

791
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: many games. That's not many. Michael Thomas in two thousand

792
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: five and nine, Marvin Harrison in two thousand two, one

793
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: forty three, seventeen, twenty two and eleven, and then Antonio

794
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: Brown again. All right, here you go, So Isaac Bruce,

795
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: they were in St. Louisa. Who's the quarterback? The quarterbacks? Well,

796
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: you can I interest you in played play for the

797
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: bar well the Jamie Martin and Mark Rippin. Now the

798
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: guy who gets it is Chris Miller. Chris Miller through

799
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: yards and eighteen touchdowns that year, who had been with

800
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: the Falcons? Did he play for the Falcons at one point,

801
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: Chris Miller, I'm thinking of Chris Chandler. Yeah, Chris Miller

802
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: played for the Falcons. He played like eight years of

803
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: his career in the Falcons. Then he goes to St.

804
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: Louis and that's it. Chris Miller, is your is your

805
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: is your quarterback of record. I'll tell you what I'll

806
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: give anybody without looking. I'll give you a Hunter Bucks,

807
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: including you Stevie, without looking. If you can tell me

808
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: the coach of the St. Louis Rams it's not Dick

809
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: for Meal mhm, which is obviously I mean, honestly, you

810
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: never guess if we would waste a minute and a

811
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: half of their time. I don't even know if you've

812
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: ever heard of the human Let's say Rich Brooks. I

813
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: was living my best life in college that he was.

814
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: He was with Oregon, he was like I think he

815
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: was a head coach at Oregon, then goes to the

816
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Rams and then ends up being like the head coach

817
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: at Kentucky. I think when Couch was there, Ninki coach Kentucky. Right, Well,

818
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: mummy coached. Maybe Mummy replaced him at that's for sure.

819
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: But I think Mummy replaced Brooks. Brooks may have recruited him,

820
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: or maybe it was thegether way. Maybe Brooks were replaced mummy.

821
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: But that was that's where that goes, all right, that's

822
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: crazy though. So cut misses just real quickly, single season

823
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: reception record by four games, by four catches. He misses

824
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: the yards by seven team chee. One more game, one

825
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: more game? Yeah, to be sure, all right, who do

826
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: you got a number two? Good job out of you

827
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: on cup? I didn't. I would not have had it

828
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: quite that grand, but I was. I was decent close

829
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: on the on the yards of the touchdowns at Aaron

830
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: Rounders number two, and then I have I don't want

831
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: to right now. He's he's in. He's in the doghouse

832
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: for me. So Aaron Donald d one because he's the

833
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: most dominant player in the game. I slept homes Patty Mahomes. Yeah,

834
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: still used the postseason all of it. All right, So

835
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: there you go. I don't know. Problem with my guess

836
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: is Miles ends up somewhere between five and ten. I

837
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 1: would think so too, I'm curious to see that would

838
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: be that that's what I want to see, my guess,

839
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: because this is player vote, right, Yeah, I think he

840
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: ends up ahead of what I think. He's the number

841
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: two defensive player behind Donald. I think I like that,

842
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: although Jalen Ramsay probably has a lot of player pull, right, Yeah,

843
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: And I just worked real quickly. I want to look

844
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: up Micah Parsons because in my mind, he had a

845
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Speaker 1: ridiculous season. Yeah, he was first team All Pro last year.

846
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Thirteen sacks, four tackles, thirty quarterback hits, three passes, depends three,

847
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: three force fumbles. So he did not play his junior

848
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: season at Penn State. He sat it out. Rookie of

849
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: the Year, Rookie of the Year, he um. The other

850
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: thing that's really cool about you about him is and

851
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: you can, like, you bang on the Cowboys a lot

852
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: for some of their stuff, But they get into camp

853
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: that the draft him as a linebacker. They get into

854
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: camp and they're like, well, this isn't who he is,

855
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: Go get quarterback. He might be the best pass rusher

856
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: in the league. Right, And they were smart enough and

857
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: not stubborn. They didn't try to make him something he

858
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: wasn't they just he's a football player, see ball, get ball,

859
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: and they let him and then this is what you get.

860
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: You get a first team All Pro out of that.

861
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: So this will be I have. I do find that.

862
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: I will if I'm if i leave the TV on

863
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: NFL Network, if I'm watching an old preseason game and

864
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: then this comes on when I flip on the TV,

865
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: I will stick with it for a little while. I

866
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: do enjoy these, but I don't. It's not appointment viewing

867
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: for me. But I do enjoy, you know, players talking

868
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: about players. I think that, Yeah, that part is cool.

869
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: All right? Coming up next, Z one on one with

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Speaker 1: Coach Defans. You're listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on Yes

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Speaker 1: Z one on one with Coach Stefanski from last night's

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Speaker 1: Coach Show. It's time now for our exclusive interview with

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Speaker 1: the head coach of Cleveland Brown's Kevin Stefanski and coach

878
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: final preseason game I know you've already said some starters

879
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: will play. We know Jacoby Brissette will start, So let's

880
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: start there. What are you hoping to see from Jacoby

881
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: and whoever joins him on the field against the Bears.

882
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: Jacoby has gotten a lot of really really good work

883
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: going back to the spring into this summer. He has

884
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: not played in a preseason game just yet, so felt

885
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: like this is the opportunity to go out there with

886
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of the ones and play football in a

887
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: game setting, and it's it's a continuation of training camp

888
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: and we're keeping scores. We want to obviously compete and

889
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: do well, but this is all part of the work

890
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: that goes into getting ready for Week one. Is there

891
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: something maybe extra to be gained for him going against

892
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: a coach in Matt Aberflis who he knows well, who

893
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: knows him well also from Indianapolis. I think so. I

894
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: mean he does know this scheme really well, and I

895
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: think coach Fleus's system is uh is really really good.

896
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: They play real fast, but they're not a huge disguise team.

897
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna kind of show you what they're doing that

898
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: there will be some disguise on first and second down,

899
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: but what they pride themselves on our playing fast. So

900
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: I think Jacobe has really understands this scheme, understands the

901
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: nuances of their coverages especially. But coach fleus Is is

902
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna do a great job there in Chicago.

903
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: I think he's I think very highly of him. He

904
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: always has a good defense. It's like back to back weeks.

905
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: They'll running into that old Indianapolis staff, right, he get

906
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: Sirianni and now Eberflus in this one and some similar

907
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: stuff for your guys. I'd imagine, yeah, schematically that they'll be.

908
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: It's interesting, so they'll be in Indianapolis. We watched a

909
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: lot of tape in Indianapolis going into this game, which

910
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: is we're a four down front team. You know, we're

911
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: a three technique to the strong side team like they are.

912
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: So a lot of similarities we attack the getting off

913
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: the ball, some coverage elements that are similar, some are

914
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: different than on the other side. Luke getsisar offensive coordinator.

915
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: He came from Green Bay, so a lot of similarities

916
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: there and what we do offensively. So it's always good

917
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: to kind of understand the scheme, understand the family of

918
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: of where these coaches have come from. Has it been

919
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: helpful for you? If you think about the preseason as

920
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: a whole. Jacksonville they do a lot of three four

921
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: right with the two stand up outside linebackers. Then you

922
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of got that five man front of the Eagles

923
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: that they play at times, and then now getting one

924
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: that's more similar. It's kind of you almost in three

925
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: weeks gotten preparation for the entire league. Yeah, so when

926
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: we face our team, you know, you're seeing that four

927
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: down front. And then in this league nowadays, we've we've

928
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: looked at our rust, our schedule. We're playing a ton

929
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: of three, three down, if you will, five on the

930
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, whether it's an odd front and under front,

931
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. That's really the say, the majority

932
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: of the league right now. So we get our four

933
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: down front in our practices. So it's always good in

934
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: these preseason games joint practices to get a different front.

935
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the quarterback position and Josh

936
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Speaker 1: Dobbs ben sensational another great performance last week. What has

937
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: he shown you maybe what's surprised you and how comfortable

938
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: are you with him now in the event that he

939
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: may have to play in this season. Josh has done

940
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: a great job again since the minute we got him

941
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Speaker 1: in April, and he's been diligent in the meeting room,

942
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: really smart, and everybody knows he's the rocket scientist, so

943
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: that goes without saying. But what I think is is impressive.

944
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: As he plays smart, he processes really quickly what he sees.

945
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: He's able to use that computer of his and get

946
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: the ball into the appropriate places. Then the big thing

947
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: that we see that doesn't necessarily show up in practices

948
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: the athleticism because remember in practice, our quarterbacks are wearing

949
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: orange jersey is no one allows is allowed to touch them. Well,

950
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: then you get into the game. These guys are trying

951
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: to tackle him, trying to sack him, trying to hit him,

952
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: and he's able to evade those defenders. So that's a

953
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: big deal. That's part of his game, it's part of

954
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: it's a very big tool of his so it's great

955
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: to see it on display. He's an incredibly likable young guy.

956
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Great yeah man, great person. I mean that whole quarterback room,

957
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: but Dobbsy is a great person, good teammate. The guys

958
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: really enjoy him, and how encouraging was it to see

959
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: him win from the pocket, third down, fourth down, because

960
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: there's no question you mentioned the athleticism that was on

961
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: full display. There's no doubt about that. His processing, you

962
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: get that, But can he consistently delivered accurately? And I

963
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: thought in that last game there are a couple of

964
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: big time third down throws that he made and a

965
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: fourth down huge throws and that those are those are

966
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: the money downs when you gotta come through at the

967
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: quarterback position. And and really the throw for me that

968
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: was most impressive was the one to Harley down the

969
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: left side in the two minute drive. Really drove that

970
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: thing between the corner and the safety. Mike made a

971
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: great ball in it, but that was a very impressive

972
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: throw from the pocket, all right outside of the quarterback position.

973
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: What do you want to see against Chicago. It's just again,

974
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: it's it's a preseason game. We want to we want

975
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: to compete, we want to win. I think that goes

976
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: without saying, but these games are really extensions of our practice.

977
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: So when we're out at practice, where we're out at

978
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: the games, we want to operate clean. We want to

979
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: make sure that we don't have mental errors, missed assignments,

980
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: those type of things. So really trying to stay on

981
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: top of the guys, especially this week. And we gave

982
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: them a game plan, and we gave them a bunch

983
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: of players that we won't run in this game because

984
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: we don't want to show it. But I want them

985
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: to take it. I want them to download it. I

986
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: want them to think about it, walk through it, practice it,

987
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: and go through the rhythm of These game plans are

988
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: totally unique week to week, so once you learn this,

989
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna flush it and get another one. Uh So,

990
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: really we taxed them mentally, and what that means for

991
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: players is you gotta work at it because you get

992
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: out there on the field, if you're thinking you're in trouble,

993
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: you gotta just react and go play fast. So we

994
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: gave them a lot. We're challenging them. We have extra

995
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: walkthroughs with a night game, so there will be more

996
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: time to to really finalize and hone in on all

997
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: the nuances of this game. But looking for the guys

998
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: to be able to play fast with with the game plan.

999
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: How about Mike Dunn in his first game ever playing

1000
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: center in the NFL, having to deal with Jordan Davis

1001
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: at times He's in the second level, he's pulling to

1002
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: the right on a you know as a center, get

1003
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: leading blocking on the sweep, getting out there in the screen. Get.

1004
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: I thought it look great. Donny did a great job.

1005
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been very versatile for us. Uh he's

1006
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: a very intelligent, very tough, smart football player. What I

1007
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: love maybe most about him as he plays really hard

1008
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: and he's always around the pile. He's always helping his

1009
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: teammates up. He's he sees it clearly. Uh So it's

1010
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: always fun when he's in there because you go back

1011
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: to that Green Bay game, he's playing guard and he

1012
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: was doing a really nice job up and down the field.

1013
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's slip it to the defensive side of

1014
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: the football. What do you hope to accomplish? This is

1015
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: a team that I remember last time we played in

1016
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: the regular season, had one net yard of passing nine sacks.

1017
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: For the Browns. Justin Fields is their quarterback. They've tried

1018
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: to revamp their line. Riley Reef, somebody you're very familiar with,

1019
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: has been brought in addition to others. What do you

1020
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: hope to get out of this one defensively? Yeah? Really

1021
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: similar to what we're looking for the offense. I want

1022
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: to just go play our defense. So what that means is,

1023
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: regardless of the play that's called, we want to be

1024
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: great in our assignment. And then the big thing in

1025
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: these games is we need to tackle. I didn't think

1026
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: we tackled particularly well the last game, so we spend

1027
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: some extra time. It's something that you do every day,

1028
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: but we spend some extra time this past week on

1029
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: tackling drills and and really would love to see guys

1030
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: get the first guy, get him on the ground. You know,

1031
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: so much of tackling is tracking, and we make a

1032
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: big point with our linebackers DBS especially is how you

1033
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: track and approach the football ultimately leads to a good tackle.

1034
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: There's physical part of it, obviously, but we need to

1035
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: be way better in our tracking and we need some

1036
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: ko nashk. That guy met that guy right in the middle,

1037
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: fork lifted him boom right on Jordan's I can't whatever that.

1038
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: I got the pronunciation on my board, and that's the

1039
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: only reason I know Jordan or fifty one to make.

1040
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: I think that's probably safer. Um all right, In reality,

1041
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: there's a very good roster that you've got here, very

1042
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: deep roster. How many spots are are up for grabs.

1043
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: I think quite a bit. I think, you know, we

1044
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: really want to look at the body of work when

1045
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: making these decisions. And this this game is a big

1046
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: part of it. Uh. It's not necessarily bigger than Jacksonville

1047
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: or bigger than Philly game or practices, but it's it's

1048
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: a part of it. So we're looking forward to watching

1049
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: some of these young guys play, and then there will

1050
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: be some tough decisions to make. And I think Andrew, uh,

1051
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: we definitely understands that we've met on the roster many

1052
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: many times. We know that there's gonna be guys that

1053
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: we'd love to keep that we're not able to. But again,

1054
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have. All right, let's end

1055
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: with a little bit of fun. Could you feel the

1056
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: electricity when k New York lined up for that fifty

1057
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: five yard or yeah, I mean you can definitely feel

1058
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: it from our crowd. You know, you don't typically here

1059
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: that much of a swell of sound when you're getting

1060
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: ready to attempt a field goal. So, uh, they're excited

1061
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: about Kate, and I know Kaide was excited to get

1062
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: out there, uh, in in front of our fans and

1063
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: we'll get another opportunity to do that Saturday night. And

1064
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: that one would have been good from sixty five. It

1065
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: just needed another yard probably to curl back in. But

1066
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: he hits the ball. It's I've got an opportunity. A

1067
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: lot of kickers around this league. He hits the ball

1068
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: in a very unique way, and I mean it almost

1069
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: feels like once we get to the fifty, it's reasonable

1070
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: to think that it's possible to go for a field goal. Yeah,

1071
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: he's a talented young man. I think we're excited about him. Obviously,

1072
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: we also realized that there's growing pains with a young player.

1073
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: And I don't care if you're a kicker, a defensive

1074
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: end and wide receiver. So uh, he's gonna have to

1075
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: continue to work at his craft. And and the nice

1076
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: part is he really does work very hard at it. Coach,

1077
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. Have fun out

1078
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: there on Saturday night. Let's get another Brown's win and

1079
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: a clean performance for your guys. Thanks Nathan. Plexities of

1080
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: this camp, and I think there's probably gonna be some

1081
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: relief to just be done with this preseason game and

1082
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: get on. I know I feel that way. I'm saying

1083
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: feel that way, Like it's kind of like, let's just

1084
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: get to let's get to Carolina and get moving along,

1085
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: Like let's get out of this thing without any any injury. Um,

1086
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: we're you know, it's August under Sean, right, he can

1087
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: be here till the thirty and then he's out. So

1088
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the team for a while. And

1089
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: and I think you just kind of want to get

1090
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: these days to stack. I'm never want to fast forward life.

1091
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: Stay in the moment, enjoy it. But I really let's

1092
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: just get to game week. That's kind of where I

1093
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: am with where we are right now in camp. I

1094
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: couldn't be more there, to be honest with you, It's

1095
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: been a draining preseason and kind of training camp off

1096
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: season in many many ways. Uh. And I think that

1097
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: it's been you know, I think it's been taken a toll,

1098
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: I think, and it's felt long to some of the guys.

1099
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: Some of the players would say, no, actually, that's it's

1100
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: been pretty quick. Yeah. The truth is this has been

1101
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: a trying time in many ways. I think for this

1102
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: organization for obvious reasons. And I do think that getting

1103
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: to the regular season and getting to that structure of

1104
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: the regular season and the cycle of the regular season,

1105
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: and you know, focusing on going one and o each

1106
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: week will be very beneficial to this team in this organization.

1107
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: And you've got good veterans, you've got great coaches, and

1108
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, there is a sense, Okay, let's go

1109
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: out there. Let's avoid what ultimately happened to say Nick

1110
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: Harris at the beginning of that game, because that's just

1111
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: it's so unfortunate, and let's get through this and then

1112
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: let's be able to take time and start to get

1113
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: ready for the Carolina Panthers September the eleventh there in Charlotte. Yeah,

1114
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: that's where we're at in terms of what you can

1115
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: look forward to give you some things late in the game.

1116
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: Maybe if I think most of these position battles are

1117
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: sorted out, but there could be some guys who can

1118
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: impress once we get into the third and fourth quarter.

1119
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: Get your view kind of on what to expect from

1120
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: the starters. Will get into that coming up next. You

1121
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:49,760
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1125
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: the game tomorrow. Get out healthy is key number one.

1126
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: Get him in, get him out? What's your gut on

1127
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: who who goes? Who doesn't coach it? Earlier in the week,

1128
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: looks starters are gonna play. I'm guessing that's not all

1129
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: we know. Jacoby is gonna play starters. Okay, select starters

1130
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: are gonna play. My guess is it will look similar

1131
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: to what we saw in Jacksonville. So if you go

1132
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: back to that game and you think offensively, Okay, who

1133
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: didn't we see in that game? You didn't see Joel Betonio,

1134
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: you didn't see a Mari Cooper, you didn't see Nick

1135
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: Chubber cream Hunt. Feels like that makes sense. We've already

1136
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: established that president. And then you go defensively in that one.

1137
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: Who didn't we see Clowney? We didn't see Miles, we

1138
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: didn't see and twenty and I think John Johnson Walker

1139
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: was banged up. I didn't think we saw John Johnson there.

1140
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: I talked to John Johnson this week, and I do

1141
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: think he is playing. So I think maybe it's just

1142
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: that simple. It's just those guys and then anybody like

1143
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: like Conklind, You're not gonna put Jack Conklin out there

1144
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: or anything like that, so you'd beat dishes. You know,

1145
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Chase Winovich is banged up, Greg's had the hammy. I

1146
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: think if Greg hadn't had that hammy, I think he

1147
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: probably does play in this game. But because he's got

1148
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: the hammy, and then you know, we'll see if if

1149
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: anything happened this week. You know, people get banged up

1150
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: in practice that we wouldn't know about at this juncture.

1151
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where my eyes are for this

1152
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: game in terms of who's in who's out. And I

1153
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: think the goal is to get you know, if you

1154
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: could get one really good quarter, I think that would

1155
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: be great. If if you need a quarter plus, I

1156
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: think it'll be a quarter plus, But I don't see

1157
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: it being any more than that. Do you think, um,

1158
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, from a roster standpoint, how many roster spots

1159
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: do you think are open heading into tomorrow? Okay? Do

1160
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: you want to go through it? By the way, this

1161
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 1: is my favorite. You the zest of the fifty three,

1162
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: and I love this. This is one of my These

1163
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: are my favorite shows. As we wind out camp and

1164
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: we do the what's the number? What is it? And

1165
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: then and then what's that look like? So just from

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01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 1: the position of how many you know, because I think

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: especially in this town, for the longest time, it was like,

1168
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, this this huge battle to make the team

1169
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: amongst twenty guys, and we're going to pick up guys

1170
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: on other practice squads and that could happen at receiver

1171
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a second. But in

1172
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: terms of just how many spots are open, let's play

1173
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: that exercise going into Saturday. Let's go spots open. Give

1174
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: me once I'm doing a little math here, QB two. Okay,

1175
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: so this is this is what I'm gonna just go

1176
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: what I think are just absolute stone cold locks, like,

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01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: without question, how many people you have that are locks

1178
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Okay, So let's go

1179
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: on offense. Quarterbacks. So you've got Barsetton, Dobs so too.

1180
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: You've got four running backs and you know Chub Hunt,

1181
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: Um Johnson, derrinst Johnson. You've got I think five receivers

1182
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: that are locks. You've got MRI DPJ, David Bell, Anthony Schwartz,

1183
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: and Dimitric Felton. You've got two tight ends. Who are locks,

1184
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: David and Joku, Harrison Bryan. I think you've got eight

1185
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: offensive linemen right now. I'll even go so far as

1186
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: say nine offensive lineman who are locks. You've got your

1187
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: starting five, so Jed, Joel Post, Sick, Wyatt, Conklin, Chris Hubbard, Um,

1188
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: James Hudson, Michael Dunn, and I think Blake Cants are

1189
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: probably locks. So if you add that up of locks

1190
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: on the offensive side, two plus four plus five is

1191
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: eleven thirteen and nine is twenty two locks. Defensive locks,

1192
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: these are just straight up locks. And now not even

1193
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: within question. We're not talking about the final We're just

1194
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: saying we're just trying to get to the number that

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01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: is open locks. Three defensive ends are locks, Miles Garrett,

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01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: Jenevian Clowney, Alex Right now, I think we can have

1197
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: six defensive vents, but that's neither nor there are four.

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Speaker 1: We have four defensive tackles who are locks, Tavin Brian,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Ellie Yet, Tommy Togi, I, Perry On Winfrey. We

1200
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: have four linebackers who are definite locks, the starting for

1201
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips, Anthony Walker, sa Taki taki Uh and jeremiahsu Cormon.

1202
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: I think we have five corners who are absolute locks,

1203
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward, Greedy, Williams, Greg Newsome, A J. Green, M. J. Emerson,

1204
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: and I think you've got four safeties who are locks. Uh,

1205
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: and that would be Grant Delpit, John Johnson, Ronnie Harrison,

1206
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: and I think Rich Account is a lock. So you've

1207
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: got forty two right there. So that's that's plus three specialists.

1208
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: So that's so that means there are eight spots that

1209
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: are up for grabs. Now of those eight of those eight, okay,

1210
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: you need to guarantee at least one of the defensive end,

1211
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: maybe two. Okay, So so now we're at six. There's

1212
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Speaker 1: at least one linebacker, maybe two. So now we could

1213
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: be at four. There is probably one more corner Herb

1214
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: Miller's who I would say there. So now we're three.

1215
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: One more safety d Anthony Bell. Now we're at two. Okay, offensively,

1216
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: that could be another wide receiver. So maybe Mike Woods

1217
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: if we said we have to keep him here there,

1218
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: I think it's another I don't know. I think that's

1219
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: where we can get creative. We've got Johnny Stanton too,

1220
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: So this is where this is where I think we

1221
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: can get creative and hear me on on this, and

1222
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: I think Yelled de fro Holt has played absolutely well

1223
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: enough to be on this team. I think Yell holds

1224
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: a stud, So that could be the other spot there.

1225
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: So who's battling. Okay, sixth receiver Mike Harley, I guess

1226
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: it's theoretically is in the mix um and then Mike Woods,

1227
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: I think would be the spot there, or that could

1228
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: be a new guy tight end. And here's my thought.

1229
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: Chief and Aarrison Brian are definitely your one in your two,

1230
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: Millard Forestall on the key, Griffin Stewart probably battling for

1231
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: your three, Johnny Stanton's battling as well, and then they

1232
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: like zayar Mitchell Payton. You could probably get guaranteed too

1233
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: if not three of those guys back on your practice squads,

1234
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: So you could still have five tight ends in the

1235
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: pro pro Graham, but maybe only two on the fifty

1236
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: three and then game weeks you could change depending on

1237
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: what you want to do. So that's a spot where

1238
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: maybe you could save a spot. You could go with

1239
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: the nine lineman if you wanted to. Offensively, I mean,

1240
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: Blake can play tackle or guard, Hubbard can play tackler

1241
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: guard done, can play center, a guard, Hudson's swing tackle.

1242
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: Get to the defensive ends, you've got the big three,

1243
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: and then Isaac Rochell's played very well. Chase Winovich is eleven.

1244
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: Sackson the league in his first two seasons and is

1245
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: we just haven't seen him, but it's very good. And

1246
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: then Isaiah Thomas, who whom we drafted, is very good.

1247
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: So you can make a case we could keep six

1248
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: defensive ends. We won't know, so, okay, that's one there.

1249
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: I think defensive tackle that's set. Linebacker Tony Fields is

1250
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: probably the fifth because you drafted him. He's got speed.

1251
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: You like him a lot. But if you said who

1252
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: had to play today, Ko Nashik and Dakote Allen are

1253
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: probably ahead of him. Both are plus plus plus special

1254
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: teams guys. Well that's the other part of it as

1255
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: you get it. So I think maybe you end up

1256
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: at six linebackers, and if you do, I think Fields

1257
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: probably makes it. And then it's a battle between Dakota

1258
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: Allen and Jordan Kunashi who both have been spectacular the code.

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Speaker 1: Allen's got twelve tackles in the preseason, no missed, kunash eleven.

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01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: He's only been here two weeks, he's already put teach

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Speaker 1: tape out there, and they're both well liked and respect

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Speaker 1: in this building. And both are guys who have been

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01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: in the league for the last three years solely because

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: of special teams to Code Allen with the Raiders and

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: with the Jags, Kunashik with Caroline and the Washington football team. Corners,

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Speaker 1: I think Kurt Miller is probably your six corner plus

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01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: special teams player, beloved and by the way, leads us

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01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: in p bus already as a pick should have had to.

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01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,959
Speaker 1: And then the fifth safety. I think the Anthony belt

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: makes this football team. So if if somehow you end

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01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 1: up in a situation where let's say it's five defensive ends,

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Speaker 1: four tackles, six linebackers, six corners, and five safeties, that's

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01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: nine twenty six on the defensive side, which would leave

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01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: you I think twenty three is in play possibly, but

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01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: I think probably four is maybe where it ends up.

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: So that would mean you could add to our side

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01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: over here, one receiver and then one either tight end alignment. Folks,

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01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: we were at forty five locks like unimpeachment that people

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: could say, is the rich account really locked? So maybe

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 1: we could go on forty four absolute locks, but there's

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: gonna be four or five safeties on this team. So

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01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: booye's the point. You see the point. There's not much

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01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: no but the guys that are competing that you could

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: look at are those tight ends are competing for one

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01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: spot if it exists. You know fro Holds competing I think,

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01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: not really against anybody, but competing against a positions. On

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: the other side, you've got Rochelle Winovich and Isaiah Thomas

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01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: for one or two spots, but it is you're just

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: going on what you have seen and that he's a

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01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: sub package rusher, right and a special teams guy. You've

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: got fields Co Nashik and Dakota Allen competing for one

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01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: or two spots. You've got Herb Miller, I think has

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01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: to be the favorite in the clubhouse and the ways,

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: competing with Sean Jolly or LeVert Hill for that spot

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: and I think he's better than them. And then you've

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: got you know, Bell, and I guess Javonte, Moffin and

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: Rich account for one or two spots. But my guess

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01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: is two spots, and it would be accounting, it would

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01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: be it would be Bell. So there's not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot to be going through. Here's not really not much

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Speaker 1: position on position stuff either. It's very little of that,

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: very little. I'd say, the last linebacker spot, there's position

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01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,919
Speaker 1: on position, how the defensive ends spots, there's position on position,

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01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: tight end, there's do we deserve to be on this

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: fifty three or are we more comfortable with these guys here?

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: And then yeah, that really is it. I mean, you

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01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: could say Yelled a fro Hold Drew Forbes. Forbes has

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Speaker 1: played great. He hasn't a lot of pressure on thirty

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: nine pass blocking snaps in the preseason and has been

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Speaker 1: fantast stick a former draft pick of ours, obviously six rounders.

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01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: He's he's gotten a lot of looks. You know, you

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01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: could say he, him and Yelled are competing for that

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: last if there's a tenth line spot, they're probably competing

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01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: for the tent spot. But the fact that Yelled a

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Speaker 1: place center would have, I would imagine, would give him

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01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: a little bit of an advantage there. But that's it, man,

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: that's it. There's not a ton And my guess is

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01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: you have to find your kick returner from the people

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Speaker 1: that are here. So whether it's the metric de Ernest

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: did kickoffs last year. You know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Jerome Ford can get into that mix, could be intriguing.

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01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of where you are. So

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Speaker 1: that's how will approach it? How will the Bears approach it?

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Speaker 1: Tom Waddle of ESPN Chicago joins us. Coming up next

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01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: time to head out on the hotline for a conversation

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: with Bears legend of course esp in Chicago, Tom Waddle

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Speaker 1: on the other end of it, Tom, thanks so much

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: for taking the time. I will acknowledge asking this question

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: that I really like Justin fields a lot as a human.

1341
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: I enjoyed him at Ohio State a great deal. I

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: think he was deserves a ton of credit for saving

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: the Big ten season in two thousand and twenty his

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: one man campaign. I'm worried about him, Tom, I'm worried

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: about him. Is can he get through this alive this year?

1346
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this roster if I remember what happened

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01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: here a year ago? What what's the plan to keep

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: him safe? Well? I I think it's a It's a

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01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: difficult planned execute, that's for sure. Um. I think you're

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01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: gonna see a group that devises the game plan on

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01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,520
Speaker 1: a again in a week out basis that's more protective

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: that it makes more sense. There were times last year

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: work quite frankly, I just did not understand what the coach,

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01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie was trying to do. Very infrequently put Justin

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: in a position a to take advantage of what Justin

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01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: does exceptionally well and be actually try and protect him. Um.

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01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, I went the first game he started in Cleveland.

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01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: I I said, the moment I saw what they were

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: doing is is they pushed the kid down a flight

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: of stairs and didn't help him up. It was just

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01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: the game plan was horrible. So look, I I think

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01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a roster influx. They obviously

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01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: aren't where they were going to be in a couple

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: of years from now. Um, So I think that they

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: can protect him with better coaching, with better play calling,

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01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: better game planning, and quite frankly, you know, justin in

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: his second year should have a better feel for how

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: to function inside the pocket and no one to shuffle

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01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: right and left and climbed the pocket. So I think

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01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a combination of a few things that

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: hopefully will allow him to stay healthy. Tom, how's he doing, Like,

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Speaker 1: how's it looking in camp with him, you know, coming

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01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: off the rookie year, the transition and the staff. Yeah,

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: I think it's still a work in progress. I think

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: it it looks better, for sure. I have a lot

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01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: of faith in first time offensive coordinator Luke Ketsy that

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01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: he's going to bring some of the concepts that existed

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01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. And obviously those concepts work because Aaron

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01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: Rodgers is the quarterback. But I think it's been proven

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01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: over time with with a lot of these guys who

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01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: have come from the same coaching Trier trying to do,

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: uh is quarterback friendly? I think he has made progress.

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01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: I think you know, they they've really just rewired him in,

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01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: starting with his footwork and pocket awareness. Um, but I

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01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: think there's been progress, and I think that he's been

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01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: a willing participants and I think the fact that he

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: is their guy in the starter as the season you know,

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01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: kicks off, is something that encourages him and gives him

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01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: some confidence. So still yet to see. I mean, it's

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01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: it's a work in progress by definition for sure. Um,

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01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: when you look at this receiving corps, Darnell Mooney goes

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards last year, You've got tight end

1393
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: Cole Commett, he's over six hundred. But gone is Allan Robinson.

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: They've brought in some some veterans who have been around

1395
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: the league of Byron Pringle and e Nemi, A St Brown,

1396
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: Taj Sharp, Dante Pettis. But how is this receiving corpse

1397
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: shaking out? Who's gonna be on the field with Mooney?

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: And they draft Vealis Jones. But what can this receiving

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: corps b and is it enough to support a young

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: quarterback like justin Fields? Again, it's not ideal Um. The

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: hope is is that the third round pick they spent

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: on Vealis Jones will pay a media dividends, and not

1403
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: only just in the return game, but they'll get the

1404
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: ball in his hands and see if he can make

1405
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 1: some things happen. Unfortunately, they've had a lot of injuries

1406
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: at the receiving corpse, so Byron Pringle, I don't think

1407
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be available. I don't know how how soon

1408
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: Sharp will be back into the lineup as well. So

1409
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: again it's it's it's not ideal, but you know, I

1410
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: still say I resist the concept that you can't make

1411
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: address just because your huddle isn't served with all stars. Think,

1412
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: if you played a game correctly, you learn from your

1413
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: mistakes from the year before, and this is gonna be

1414
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity for guys to step forward and kind of

1415
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: established themselves. Cole Commet has been a solid player, as

1416
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned, for two years. Hopefully under the direction of Luke,

1417
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: gets in a different offense where Luke's trying to, you know,

1418
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: play to his strength, he will take a step forward

1419
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: and be a guy that you know, shows that he

1420
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: was worthy of that second round pick. I can't sit here. Unfortunately,

1421
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,480
Speaker 1: and it tells you it's gonna look great. I mean, offensively,

1422
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: this team has been a hot mess for years. I

1423
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: think that that the new regime has stepped in and

1424
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: has taken a long term approach here, realizing that next

1425
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: year they're gonna have a full complement of draft picks

1426
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of free agency money. So I think

1427
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: they're just trying to build a solid foundation, get guys

1428
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: pointing in the right direction, and the three is when

1429
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: all of the improvements and the progress is expected to

1430
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: take place. Talking to the Great Tom Waddle of s

1431
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 1: BE in Chicago, of course, former Chicago Bears, Great, I

1432
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: want to ask you about Matt Albert Flows and just

1433
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: your kind of feel for him as a coach. What

1434
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: what's his style? What is what does he put? What

1435
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 1: are you seeing come through the team that that he's pushing.

1436
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: What what's the m O for him? Yeah, I think

1437
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, he's he's an unknown. But I I

1438
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: said this from the beginning. I liked just to kind

1439
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: of step back. I like the plan that first time

1440
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: GM Ryan Poles and Matt Eberflus, first time head coach,

1441
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: kind of collaborated on that's a dirty word in Chicago

1442
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: because Matt Naggy and Ryan Pace used to use it

1443
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: and it it never yield never yielded dividends. But they

1444
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: have collaborated and their the process, I think is a

1445
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: good process and it is a long term approach. I

1446
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: think Ebrew Flus has come and he's a no nonsense guy.

1447
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: He's he's opened things up for for competition. I think

1448
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, a good young cornerback, figured that out in

1449
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: the first mini camp. I think Kevin Jenkins was alerted

1450
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: to that with how they've hand old Ham um. And

1451
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: I think the maybe one of the more positive things

1452
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: we've seen over the last six or seven days is

1453
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: some of these defensive players who were skeptical early on

1454
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: have come around and you've heard them talk positively about

1455
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: the plan and how things look and and um, you

1456
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: know so again, I wish I could sit here and

1457
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: give you a more definitive answer as to who these

1458
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: guys are. They're gonna have to define themselves. But so

1459
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: far a two preseason games, we've seen a limited number

1460
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: of penalties at one turnover. And while this team isn't

1461
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: going to, you know, knock your socks off with talent

1462
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: on either side of the football. The process looks like

1463
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 1: it's more sound, and uh, we'll see if that translates

1464
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: to the regular season, but I would say that that

1465
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: is a product of how the head coach is approaching things.

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Speaker 1: Talking with Tom Waddle here and Tom, you mentioned the

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01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Yeah, Jalen Johnson's back, Eddie

1468
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: Jackson is back. But you think about the starters from

1469
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: a year ago and the names that a bit comes

1470
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: synonymous with this team, especially up front, Khalil Mackachem Hicks,

1471
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: Eddie Goldman gone. Alec Ogletree who played a lot of

1472
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: linebacker for them year ago, he is gone as well.

1473
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: So this is a defense with by my count, it

1474
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: looks like three starter new starters on the line too,

1475
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: new starters at linebacker, and a couple of new starters

1476
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: in secondary, two of their second round picks to Kwon

1477
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: Brisker and Kyler Gordon. How's this defense looking because that

1478
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: was the identity for so long and obviously it's in

1479
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: a period of flux. Yeah, it's it's hard to I'm

1480
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: not trying to be elusive and not answer your guys questions.

1481
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to know right now. Guys, truly,

1482
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: because there are so many new faces and this is

1483
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: an entirely new scheme. Defensively, it's more of what you

1484
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: saw from love Smith several years ago. Roquan Smith will

1485
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 1: be moved to the week linebacker position, which in this

1486
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 1: defense is kind of the spot where where your most

1487
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: athletic and most accomplished player will have to set up shop. Uh. Yeah,

1488
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to manufacture some pressure, whether it's Rob

1489
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: or Quinn. I'm not sold that Robert's gonna be here

1490
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: for the entirety of the season. Robert is a tremendous player,

1491
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: But I think this team, as you get close to

1492
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, I think there there if Robert, you know,

1493
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: is is anything close to what he was last year

1494
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: when he said a franchise record for sacks here in Chicago.

1495
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: If he's still playing at a high level, I think

1496
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: he's going to be somebody that's going to to catch

1497
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: the attention of those looking for a pass rush, those

1498
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: that are looking to win a title. And I wouldn't

1499
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: be shocked if they moved on from him. Um, listen,

1500
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: we are we're we're building this up from the ground floor.

1501
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: They tore this thing down there obviously asking a lot

1502
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: of Bears fans because uh, you're gonna have to be

1503
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: patient to see whether or not this works. But I'm

1504
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 1: encouraged that this isn't just the band aid approach. I

1505
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 1: think that that was the approach of the previous regime

1506
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 1: and it got us nowhere. So um, you got to

1507
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: tear it down to build it back up, and my goodness,

1508
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: they've done some some demolition for sure. How are those

1509
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: young rookie corners looking and how what about Trevis Gibson

1510
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: Because you look into the numbers last year, you know,

1511
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,560
Speaker 1: ends up with seven sacks. Four of them come in

1512
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: the last five games when Khalil mac got hurt. Those

1513
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: are young guys that you're gonna count on, I imagine,

1514
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: to play a big role here for this defense. Yeah,

1515
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: there's no doubt they're hoping that he'll step forward and

1516
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: it creates some of some of the havoc that that

1517
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: will be missing because Khalil is no longer there. I

1518
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: go again. I go back to the process that that

1519
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles used when he went into draft this year,

1520
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: his first draft. He set up his board and he said,

1521
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: because we have so many needs, we're not gonna focus

1522
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: on certain positions. We're gonna focus on the best players

1523
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: that are on our board, and those guys in the

1524
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: second round where Gordon the cornerback out of Washington and

1525
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: Jaquon Brisker the safety out of Penn State. And I

1526
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: think Gordon has been hurt a little bit, so we

1527
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: haven't seen a ton of him, but Brisker has has

1528
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: very quickly caught the attention of a lot of people.

1529
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: Is a playmaker, not only and in the box safety,

1530
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: but somebody that can come down and and help out

1531
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: in coverage and Nickel's situations. You guys know, I mean

1532
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: you need you need more than two solid corners in

1533
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: this league. And Jalen Johnson, I think it's going to

1534
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: take another step this year. It'll be great Importon can

1535
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 1: do that, um, but you need six solid secondary guys

1536
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: to really compete at a high level. And I'm not

1537
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: sure they have the depth, but I think they may

1538
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: have found some guys that eventually, even in their rookie years,

1539
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: can make some plays, but eventually will be will be

1540
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: hallmarks back there in the secondary. Tom, I'll get you

1541
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: out of here on this one. Big picture. We spent

1542
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about this plan building from

1543
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: the ground up in terms of what the Bears want

1544
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: to be on the field, where do they want to

1545
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: play and not necessarily the organization or this where do

1546
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: where do Bears fans want a stadium? What's the resolution

1547
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: on that? From from your view, Yeah, it's a for me,

1548
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: it's you gotta go to Arlington Heights and build this

1549
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: gigantic Bears you know, wonderland. That's something that that that

1550
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: I've been an advocate of for for quite some time.

1551
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: And look, I I was blessed to have played for

1552
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: this this charter franchise and and spent all six seasons

1553
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,440
Speaker 1: here in Chicago playing at Soldier Field, and the majesty

1554
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: is wonderful and the history is fantastic. They haven't always

1555
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: played there. You gotta remind people they played games at

1556
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field for a while as well. Uh, it's just

1557
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: not it's a smaller stadium. The amenities are not great. Uh,

1558
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: the access to the to the stadium is not good. Um,

1559
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 1: it's just not. It's not the world class facility that

1560
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: this organization should have. They can't have other events, they

1561
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: can't do some of the stuff that that some of

1562
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: the other the teams in in the National Football League

1563
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: can do. All you have to do is go three

1564
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: and a half hours south to Indianapolis and see, you know,

1565
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: their building which can host the Final Four, can host

1566
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, can host everything. So uh, you know,

1567
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: there are some fans that are that that won't budge

1568
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: and and and love the majesty of sitting on the

1569
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: lake for the games and then this alga, but I

1570
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: think the vast majority would would much rather go to

1571
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: a facility that um gives the the the viewer a

1572
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: better experience, uh, something where it gives gives your team

1573
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: maybe a bit of an advantage over where they're playing

1574
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: now and can host some bigger and better events as well.

1575
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: So UM, I think that the vast majority of Bears

1576
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: fans at this point would welcome a new stadium, even

1577
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: if it's not on the Lake front, it's out the suburbs.

1578
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: Great stuff, Tom, Thank you so much for your time today, Pal.

1579
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: You gotta guys have a great afternoon. Yeah. YouTube Tom Waddle,

1580
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: the former Bears great and uh host of Waddle and

1581
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: Sylvia on ESPN Chicago. The question I have is that

1582
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: there any chance that Justin Fields is quarterbacking the Bears

1583
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: by the time they get to that new stadium. Hard

1584
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: to imagine it, Honestly, I gotta tell you it's a

1585
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: brutal going through this and getting ready for the game

1586
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 1: and the broadcast on Saturday night. I just came away

1587
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: with feeling that Trump just Fields is in a no

1588
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 1: win position. They have probably the worst skill position talent

1589
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: in the league. I think that's probably safe to say.

1590
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: They will have four new starters on the offensive line,

1591
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: most likely. Um. They brought in Riley Reef who's been

1592
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: in the league for a long time but has not

1593
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: been great. Uh, Michael Scofield comes over. UM another free agent.

1594
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: There're three new free agents and there's one their draft

1595
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: pick right now, fifth round or out of Southern Utah,

1596
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 1: Braxton Jones is complete competing with Larry Boreham Um who

1597
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick a year ago. So to

1598
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: to start left tackle, Koby white Hair's their best offensive

1599
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: linement and is very very good. He's playing left guard

1600
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: for them now. It was a center early in his career. Um.

1601
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: But they brought in guys who are basically been kind

1602
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: of like, you know, cast off a little bit around

1603
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: the league or you know, have been spot starters here

1604
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: and there have played a lot, but none of them

1605
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: have been of great you know, in some ways, I

1606
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: felt like this roster it's interesting because Tom was saying,

1607
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're not trying to band aid it. It's

1608
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 1: a ton of veterans who have not accomplished much in

1609
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: the league on this roster mixed with twenty something rookies.

1610
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: You know what, it looks to me like US US

1611
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: one without the best offensive line in football, which and

1612
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: arguably have a better time and well but even I

1613
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,520
Speaker 1: mean I'm talking about like the when with Kaiser Osweiler,

1614
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: like that situation they just have they they did this backwards. Yes,

1615
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: you don't draft justin fields until you have this stuff

1616
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: sorted out, and it's not sorted in any way shape.

1617
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: So he will. I don't see any scenario where he's

1618
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: not wrecked. I don't see any scenario where he survives it.

1619
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the names that you're reading. One thing

1620
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: that we do on the show for months in the

1621
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: off season is a we go to the combine, then

1622
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: we do draft for months leading up to it. These

1623
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: deep position dives. You just named a bunch of humans

1624
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of, and we do this for

1625
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: a living. I don't know who those people are. I

1626
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: cover college football every day. I don't know who those

1627
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: people are. Lucas Patrick is entering his seventh season. He's

1628
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: got thirty four starts. Michael Scofield has been a starter

1629
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: out of Michigan. You remember him from Michigan. Sixth a year.

1630
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: He started one starts in his career. But this is

1631
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: not it's it's it's not a loaded unit by any

1632
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. It was a huge problem. Remember

1633
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: when the Browns played them last year, nine sacks of

1634
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: franchise record, you had one net passing yard for the Bears.

1635
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 1: One net passing yard in an NFL game in the

1636
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: year is still one of the most stupefying things I've

1637
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, and obviously, as he said, you know,

1638
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: Tom Modele said very clearly, they did not set him

1639
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: up for very much success in that game. And I

1640
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: think that's exactly right. They did not. But this isn't

1641
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: This is not a great football team. This is there.

1642
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: This is a bad football team. I think it might

1643
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: be the worst in the league. Yes, and that's the

1644
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: worst roster in the league. I expect the Browns to

1645
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: look good against this team. They should look good against

1646
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: this team. Yeah, I'm trying to think, so it's them.

1647
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Houston is better than them. And then I don't think

1648
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta is the Probably got Pits. They've got didn't they

1649
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: just draft Drake London. Probably they've got weapons. Like see,

1650
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,520
Speaker 1: here's the deal. The guy who's gonna who follows theoretically,

1651
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: the guy who fought very possibly the guy who follows

1652
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Fields at Ohio State, C J. Stroud, who's gonna get

1653
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: picked first or second in this draft, is going to

1654
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 1: be in a much better spot right away because whoever

1655
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: drafts him, whether it's Seattle, I don't know if they

1656
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: can get bad enough quick enough, Atlanta or Houston is

1657
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: gonna be in a better spot than Fields as a

1658
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: rookie than Fields is going into his third year significantly.

1659
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: So can you imagine you put Pits and Drake London

1660
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: on this team. Well, it's a whole different and totally

1661
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: different thing. Yes, cold comets, all right. It's just when

1662
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: you think about you've got Darnell Mooney. It was a

1663
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: fifth rounder and it's been very you know, last year

1664
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: or career year eighty one catches thousand, fifty five yards.

1665
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: But then you've got Vealis Jones, who was six years

1666
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: in college, so he's an old rookie to begin with.

1667
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 1: His most productive year in college was eight hundred yards

1668
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 1: and seven touchdowns of Tennessee. Byron Pringle in his career

1669
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: has eight yards. He's going into his fifth season. Was

1670
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: a former undrafted free agent of the Chiefs. Taj Sharp

1671
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: is going into a seven season. Was a fifth rounder

1672
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: for Tennessee in two thousand and sixteen. He hasn't had

1673
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: more than three or fifty yards since the two thousand

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Speaker 1: sixteen season. And then their big signing was Equanimius st. Brown,

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Speaker 1: who in his career he's going into his fifth year.

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Speaker 1: He was a sixth round pick of the Packers in

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Speaker 1: he's got five forty three yards for his career, and

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Speaker 1: he played with Aaron Rodgers. I know, I know bad

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Speaker 1: and he said that. He just told us now that

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Speaker 1: Pringles banged up, and so's Taj Sharp. Sharp has been.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got forty four yards in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: That's their second leading receiver. I mean, they're not producing offensively,

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Speaker 1: they're not doing much defensively either, but this is a

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Speaker 1: team right now that you know they've already been given

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Speaker 1: up seven sacks in the preseason. They're averaging two yards

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Speaker 1: a game. I mean it's bad. It's not great, it's bad.

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Speaker 1: It's really bad. Still so much more to come. You'll

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Speaker 1: Can't wait, man, Let's get this, get through this game.

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Speaker 1: Get a good look at Jacoby Brissett. Hopefully he just

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01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: leads us down on a nice drive. You can get

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Speaker 1: him out and he probably won't be playing with his

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Speaker 1: top skill position players. But this is a team he

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Speaker 1: knows well. Hebrew Fluss was the defensive coordinating the quarterback there,

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Speaker 1: so they know him well. It should be familiar. Let's

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Speaker 1: see it look good, let's see it healthy, and let's

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Speaker 1: get ready for Carolina. Well said sir. Enjoy your weekend. Everybody,

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