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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe. The headlines the Buccaneers informed rookie Shiloh Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>today that he's being waved. His agent Yoursenhouse Robert Bailey,

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<v Speaker 1>a former teammate of mine with the Ravens added, we're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping he'd get claimed waivers. O Joe, Yeah, where do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Shiloh will land?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I'm not sure where we're laying. There's

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<v Speaker 3>some teams out there that can use some depth, especially

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<v Speaker 3>at the safety position. I'm not sure what the Bengals

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<v Speaker 3>look like in the in the in the in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Steelers can can add. The Saints can add

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<v Speaker 3>to to their to their secondary as well. Uh, he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get claim where he gets claimed, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>what that would be yet. Listen. For one, he has

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<v Speaker 3>Austin representation in Robert Bailey and j rosen House. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>they represented me while I was playing my tenure. So

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<v Speaker 3>he will get picked up. Where he gets picked up,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure, but he has the right person in

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<v Speaker 3>his corner to make sure he gets another opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>the game that he loves.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes your last name can be a blessing and a curse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not normal that free agents have breaking news that

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<v Speaker 1>they're being released. He's an undrafted free agent and because

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<v Speaker 1>his name is Sanders. The blessing and the curse. People say, well, young,

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<v Speaker 1>he only got an opportunity because his last name is Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I mean, maybe you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can recall the last time an undrafted free agent it

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<v Speaker 1>was breaking news that he was getting released, getting made,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be, Go ahead, o't.

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<v Speaker 3>You anytime it's a rookie, especially an undrafted rookie. The

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<v Speaker 3>only time they make the news, uncles, when they get

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<v Speaker 3>in trouble, right, is there an arrest of some sort

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<v Speaker 3>anything coming out of college where they've gotten in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's pretty much it. Because of the last name

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<v Speaker 3>is why it's breaking news. And it just it's like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, uncle, it's a gift and the curse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, And I just you know, hey, you sit back

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<v Speaker 1>and you reflected, and you're like, Okay, it didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out here. Maybe somebody gives me an opportunity, it works

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<v Speaker 1>out somewhere else. You don't know. This is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that Shallow has been told he's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's been a phenomenal player. Obviously, he got

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<v Speaker 1>his first start with the University of South Carolina. He

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<v Speaker 1>got a D one scholarship his father gets the job

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<v Speaker 1>at Jackson State, he goes and joins his father and

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<v Speaker 1>his brother at Jackson, and then when his dad gets

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<v Speaker 1>the head coaching job at CU, he follows. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the two sons follow their dad there. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>very first time, and it's really hard because think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>ought Joe. I think he's twenty four, twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in twenty four to twenty five years, somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Has told you you're not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's one thing, if you know, you get cut

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<v Speaker 1>from your high school team, you get cut from your

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<v Speaker 1>junior varsity team, or something like that. He's twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>But think about it. Think about this, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for the first time of your life, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in your mid twenties before somebody ever tells, someone ever

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<v Speaker 1>utters to you you're not good enough. Forget forget it

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<v Speaker 1>be a sport, maybe it's a job, maybe it's something,

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<v Speaker 1>but to be told you're not good enough because your

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<v Speaker 1>whole life you've dreamed about being an NFL player, or

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<v Speaker 1>your whole like your dream job, whatever the case that

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<v Speaker 1>may be, You've dreamed about holding this dream job. And

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden they're like, you're not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Per Yahoo Sports, we're told that Buccaneers enjoyed having Shiloh

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<v Speaker 1>in the building, viewing the son of Dion Sanders as

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<v Speaker 1>a good kid who at all times of respectful to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Shiloh could, in theory signed with the Bucks practice squad

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<v Speaker 1>after clearing waivers. The bigger question is whether he's good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to compete and play at an NFL level. That's

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<v Speaker 1>always the case, that's what you way, oh cho, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you bring somebody back on the practice squad, you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>with a year under our belt, with a year under

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<v Speaker 1>his belt and our system developing, we think he can

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<v Speaker 1>develop into a player that could play for us get offense, defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe he's just a backup. Maybe hey, they pay

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<v Speaker 1>backups just in case people do know they do pay

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<v Speaker 1>backups in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, he can be a special a special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Player, punt punt return, kickoff, kickoff return, maybe he could

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<v Speaker 1>be whatever the case may be. Now that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks organization, that's what they have to weigh. Todd Bowles

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<v Speaker 1>and that staff. I forget the general manager. I just

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<v Speaker 1>reading something the other day about the general manager because

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about, what's the linebacker they let go?

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<v Speaker 1>H he was LSU. They ended up letting him go

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<v Speaker 1>and he would go to Philly. Now he's found a home.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's at the Texans, maybe the Raiders, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the case may be. But I just saw his I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw his name. That's what you have to That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're up against. You got sixteen spots, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of people that you can bring in

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<v Speaker 1>all those sixteen players.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, we're saying that we believe with another year in

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<v Speaker 1>our systems offense or defense, we think down the line,

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<v Speaker 1>he just need a little bit more time to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>We think this kid might turn into a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>player for us. Absolutely, let's let's let's take another look

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<v Speaker 1>at him. Let's let's let's let's get a let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a bird's eye view. Let's stay with m let's stay

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<v Speaker 1>with him for a year, and let's see what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of player he turns into.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully that's something.

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<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't get claim dof waivers, hopefully he gets

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity, either it's the bugs or someone gives him

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity, because maybe he just needs another year to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>Into an NFL player. Maybe that's the case. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't everybody. Everybody that particular dream, everybody doesn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>realize it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oo because but you know what, my.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother had a very interesting take on a dream. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what a dream is, O choe, a dream

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<v Speaker 1>that comes true. He says, it's a gift to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>M A dream is a gift to yourself. You I

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<v Speaker 1>had very similar dreams. I need to play in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no other options. I didn't have a plan,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got my degree. But my plan ABC all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through Z was go play in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And my determining factor was to get my family out

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<v Speaker 1>of the situation. Now, my brother gave us a head start,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't. That wasn't good enough for me.

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<v Speaker 2>He did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought there was nothing that my brother ever

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<v Speaker 1>did that I didn't think I could do, not one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I like, he went to college. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know I could go to college even though I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a student that he was. He applied himself. I never

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<v Speaker 1>applied myself. I was, you know, hey, I got this

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<v Speaker 1>god given ability. I'll be extremely talented. That'll get me

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<v Speaker 1>by it's an amazing I think it's amazing when I

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<v Speaker 1>see kids that come from lineage like a time, like

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<v Speaker 1>a a Clay Matthews senior, like a Bruce Matthews son

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning. When your your father has something and you

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<v Speaker 1>still have a burning desire to get it for yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very impressive to me coming from our situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Joe, it's easy to be motivated. Oh yeah, yeah, being.

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<v Speaker 1>Hungry, being hot, being cold, it's easy being rained on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy to develop motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happens when you have none of those extenuating circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you gotta want it. You got to want it.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be self motivated too. And you got to

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<v Speaker 3>understand when you when you have fathers that played in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL that were very, very good, not just you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're regularly the average players. Then also as a

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<v Speaker 3>child having to live up to that hype, the comparison

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<v Speaker 3>of your father, you're not being as good as your

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<v Speaker 3>father just yet may be, but sometime the pressures of

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<v Speaker 3>having to live up to in the shadow of a

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<v Speaker 3>father that was extremely good, that is craft can also

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<v Speaker 3>it can be demoralizing at times. Yes, I'm focus and

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<v Speaker 3>locked in. I mean a great example of one one

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<v Speaker 3>of the players who was able to do it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Taroll Owen's son, you know, I'm sure he's had to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with all the all the outside noise. But having

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<v Speaker 3>a father like too, that's going to make sure you're

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<v Speaker 3>prepared for all the nonsens that comes with. Don't worry

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<v Speaker 3>about trying to be me, just be you. Just be

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<v Speaker 3>thats Tariq Owens that you can be. Hell this past weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you do? Scored the pops? You know, put you.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the abo.

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<v Speaker 3>That has to be one of the greatest feelings in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. To have a son to open a mat

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<v Speaker 3>or a daughter, whatever respective craft it is that they

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<v Speaker 3>do or choose to be in that there has to

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<v Speaker 3>be a dope, dope feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. I think the thing is ojo.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest thing is is are you living in your parents'

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<v Speaker 1>shadow or are you embracing it?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. That's a good one. I would

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<v Speaker 3>never force my child to do anything they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to do. I would never force my child to do anything. Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love I would love it. You know. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to play football, so be it, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that would ever force you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know why force you to do it? You know

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<v Speaker 1>why because playing football was your dream. You don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's their dream. See a lot of time when

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<v Speaker 1>people force their kid to do something, they're living vicariously

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<v Speaker 1>through the child. Now, I'm not saying in all situations,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think everybody wants their child to be successful

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<v Speaker 1>that his or her chosen path. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times we see the behavior and people kids thinking about now, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my son going to the NFL, my son is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a major League baseball player, my son gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball player. Let the kid. Let a kid be

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. You're not supposed to look at your child

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<v Speaker 1>as a paycheck. You're not supposed to look at your

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<v Speaker 1>child as the way out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. That's a good one. Or you're

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<v Speaker 3>not supposed to live vicariously through your child because you

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<v Speaker 3>weren't able to achieve the dreams that you.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't do it, So now you're gonna put that ay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the child embraces and wants to be that whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he or she chooses, and then you nudge them along

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<v Speaker 1>in that direction, don't ah just.

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<v Speaker 2>What you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And my son very early on is that Dad, that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't this ain't me, This ain't what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a question, Yeah, a question for you now

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<v Speaker 3>that we're talking about that. It's a great topic to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about when you think about fathers like Joe Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>fathers like Tiger Woods, Yes, Serena, Vena and Venus. Dad

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<v Speaker 3>beyond the father Yes, fathers that actually understood early on,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what you guys need to do to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to read success.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about prodigies though you talked about that, you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about you talk about them, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to understand as fathers, you never know that

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<v Speaker 3>these prodigies are going to be what they turned out

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<v Speaker 3>to be. You think he says, Dad understood that she

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<v Speaker 3>would be one of the greatest of all time. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean she known acquire you young Joe Jackson. You have talent,

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<v Speaker 3>you have you have sons that are talented. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to put them through the through the work to actually

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<v Speaker 3>get to that clinical that you envisioned. So is that

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<v Speaker 3>not almost like the same thing. They seeing something that

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't able to accomplish, and they feel that their child,

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<v Speaker 3>the kids should be able to be able to live

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<v Speaker 3>about their dream.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go back and think about it, go

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<v Speaker 1>back and listen to the parent. The kid was excited

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<v Speaker 1>to get up the next day to go do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>They never had to force the child to go do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They never like, come on, Tiger, you got to get up.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger was four or five years old. He already had

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<v Speaker 1>his bag, He was ready to go. Beyonce. They never

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<v Speaker 1>had to drag Beyonce into rehearsals or say you need

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<v Speaker 1>to practice.

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<v Speaker 2>She was rare to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike, he's with the Jackson five. We got a group,

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<v Speaker 1>nice little group. Hey, and I'm sure, but and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, you know, it's hard. Tiger had

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<v Speaker 1>a very strained relationship with his father because the things

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<v Speaker 1>that transpired in the household with his mom. We know

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<v Speaker 1>Mike had a very troubled relationship with his father. He

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<v Speaker 1>ended up finding his dad as soon as he left

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<v Speaker 1>the group. I think in seventy nine fired his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them to end up finding their dad as

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<v Speaker 1>the manager. So we understand, because but as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't understand that, O Joe, you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand that he your parent, mom or dadd is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to push you in a direction because they see something

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<v Speaker 1>in you that you don't see yourself. But but the

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<v Speaker 1>child has to want it because if he be he

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<v Speaker 1>or she begrudgingly do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, listen, when they get old enough, when they get

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<v Speaker 3>the old enough to make their own decisions. All the

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<v Speaker 3>birthings you put in and he don't go to waste

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<v Speaker 3>because the child is gonna turn now, you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>The same with that? That is what I want. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen we've seen them. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I just man, I ain't even want to play no

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<v Speaker 1>more football. I ain't even want to play no more basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's and here's the thing. I saw somebody and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, he said two things, motivation and discipline. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're not motivated, are you disciplined enough to go do

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Motivation, yeah, oh Joe, we are motivated, boy boy boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the motivation is not there because you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be motivated every single day, every single time. But

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<v Speaker 1>will you be disciplined understanding and realizing what it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to get to where you ultimately want to go?

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<v Speaker 3>Two more examples, ball and what he did with the ball. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>A and aman Ros Saint Brown's father as well, A magic,

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<v Speaker 3>great creed magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he said, he say, hey, the boys a

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be at the gym. Yes, it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>when someone is motivated and they're disciplined, that's the easy

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<v Speaker 1>that's the easiest person. Because you look at the greats.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan is extremely talented, but look at the motivation,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the discipline that he had. Look at Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>look at a Kobe.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the greats of the greats. Yes, not

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<v Speaker 2>only are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're extremely talented, they're extremely driven individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about obsessed. Yeah. Yeah, Serena was obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when you get when twenty thirty forty years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about some of the best, the best

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<v Speaker 1>female tennis player, that's why she's always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned because she was obsessed with it. Yes, she's ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>talented to be able to for her to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to move around the court like she could with that

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<v Speaker 1>with that powerful forehand. Yeah, Federer, he's like he's on clouds,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's he's ballet.

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<v Speaker 2>He's beriching to cop with a bat with a racket.

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<v Speaker 1>But we wish the best We wish the best for

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys, but some of these Sally is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come to an end. Some of these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get what do we call it practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad opportunities. Some of these guys, it's over. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the road, Ocho. But we got a new

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<v Speaker 1>angle from the play yesterday in which your door threw

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<v Speaker 1>a punch and was ended up being ejected. Shiloh said,

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<v Speaker 1>you do Shiloh. Bill Zach Davidson grabbed the face mask

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<v Speaker 1>of Shiloh after the whistle. So are we gonna show

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't overstay NFL? Yeah, but what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>after the play he ends up grabbing uh Shiloh's face

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<v Speaker 1>mask and it looks like, you know, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how yo, I'm trying to get his hands off, and

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<v Speaker 1>so hey, he won't let it go, So I take

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<v Speaker 1>I take his wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, your buddy, you can't, you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you and the wide open yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And not even about being in the Who's joint practice,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand a little scuffle in game preseason no matter

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<v Speaker 3>where in the trenches, you know, you you in you

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of you can't. You just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta suck that one up. You gotta suck that

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<v Speaker 3>one up, and pick a time to get him before

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<v Speaker 3>the whistle blows. Pick a time to get him before

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<v Speaker 3>the whistle blows. Within the scheme of what y'all got

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<v Speaker 3>going on, you can't do it. There's really this, there's

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<v Speaker 3>really no discourse, there's no dialogue that needs to go

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<v Speaker 3>on about it. You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hey, when you're right, you ain't wrong, and you

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<v Speaker 1>and in this situation, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, I know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Our instinct is to get him back, get it, not

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<v Speaker 1>to get but to get him back right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, it ain't good.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't good. It ain't good enough to get him

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<v Speaker 1>back at a later day time. I got to get

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<v Speaker 1>you back right now because you got me, so you

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<v Speaker 1>got me.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get you.

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<v Speaker 3>You got four quarters? You got four quarters? Mm hm

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, hey, listen, it's football, man. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how it is out there, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>it is. Oh, I know, I had to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>people trying to kill me for four quarters, for decades straight,

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<v Speaker 3>every week, hey, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got I done, got people, man, Man, such and such

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<v Speaker 1>a man, such and such dirty?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I was, Oh, y'all, you know, Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you used to cut people?

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<v Speaker 2>We did? I?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see, I ain't do that. I ain't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't do that. Ain't I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like for such. I don't like going below

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<v Speaker 3>the knees. I'm just me, as small as I was,

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<v Speaker 3>as frill as I was. I never wanted to cut

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<v Speaker 3>people for the simple fact. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>responsible for you losing your career or.

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<v Speaker 1>You think did you think about my career when you

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<v Speaker 1>did that cheap issue you did? Were you thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>my family when you did that? Were you thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>my grandma? Were you thinking about my brother and sister,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids when you did what you did?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you want me to think? Now you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to have a heart right? Mm hmm, I'm sorry I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would have teammates. Man, it's such a such dirty,

0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I said, Oh man, such number such and such. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do man? That joke after the whips?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he got okay, let's get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I owe him with some good days boy, oh oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, you got to get God.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not finna get us if they were not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about it, oh Joe. Four of the five

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen that were blocking for Shador Sanders yesterday were

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<v Speaker 1>waved by the Browns today. d'Artagnan, Tenseley, Bucky Williams, Javian

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<v Speaker 1>Cohen Sebastian good Air, Guitarians or Gutierres one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to high school with a young lady named

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<v Speaker 1>Christy Gretarios, so Gouda areas. Some people said Gutierres, and

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<v Speaker 1>some people she went by guitarians because she was Nicaraguin.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kevin Stefanski clapped back this morning said he was

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<v Speaker 1>he's not trying to sabotage Shador. Another piece of info

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<v Speaker 1>came out overnight. If Stefanski was wasn't trying to sabotage,

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<v Speaker 1>why was undrafted rookie Greg Larvinian not in with Shadur?

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<v Speaker 2>What was it? Kanye Gauge? Hey, damn hey?

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<v Speaker 1>With all these names, Gage has been with Shador throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the camps, practicing even first pre season game. He also

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<v Speaker 1>trains with him outside of practice. Why yesterday was he

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<v Speaker 1>not in with him?

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<v Speaker 3>Look we beating the dead horse off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tyler Huntley was released.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Huntley was released yesterday, Ojoe, which begs the question

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<v Speaker 1>what you are not saying? Okay, you know you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to weigh Tyler Huntley. So what good did that two

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<v Speaker 1>minute drive do for him? Was it going to help him?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think Shaduor would have benefited more from a

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<v Speaker 1>two minute drive than Tyler Huntley. I'm just asking if

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, if one guy is gonna be on your roster,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like they're gonna keep four quarterbacks, o Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it seem.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been more beneficial for Shaduur to get

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<v Speaker 1>the two minute drill because that situation that he might

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<v Speaker 1>find himself in during the regular season if something were

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<v Speaker 1>to have went to the quarterbacks in front of him,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to Snoop Huntley.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely absolutely. But one thing we don't know is

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<v Speaker 3>how that that that that coach is staff is thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know what's going to their mind. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what coach stefanskis thinking. I'm not sure what they

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 3>were trying to look at. Uh, maybe get one last

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<v Speaker 3>look a Huntly before whatever the decision you wanted to make.

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<v Speaker 3>But again they I don't. I don't know what what

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<v Speaker 3>else to say at this point, I don't, honestly, I mean,

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.359
<v Speaker 3>it's it is what it is. Obviously, you want quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>play and opportunity to be given to each and every person.

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<v Speaker 3>They saw fit, they saw fit. The way it is,

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<v Speaker 3>they're keeping four quarterbacks, and that's where it is now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that's where it is now. I know

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<v Speaker 3>one thing. I've watched a lot of football for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. Mm hmm, watch a lot of quarterback play

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. I played, I played with some

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<v Speaker 3>good ones, you know. So I mean they made it,

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<v Speaker 3>they made the decision. Yep, this is the way they

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 3>wanted to go. So I wish I wish the Cleveland

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Browns nothing below in their quarterback situation because once once

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<v Speaker 3>the season starts for real on Week one and then

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 3>bullets flying all over the place for real, yeah, be

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 3>a different ball game. It's going to be a different

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<v Speaker 3>ball game.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>I Look, I'm just a firm believer. If you go

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>back and study Joe Flacco since he's been away from

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens, expectations, you see when he came in for

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>DeShawn there was no expectations. But what happened when he

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.479
<v Speaker 1>went somewhere in there with expectations.

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:39.119
<v Speaker 2>How did he do?

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<v Speaker 3>Different ball game? Yeah, the pressures of having to play

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 3>that position are a lot different. Preseason is one thing.

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's all shits and giggles, no disrespect, it's

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 3>all vanilla. I don't think I don't think people understand

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 3>how difficult that position is to play. When you're being

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 3>schemed right, when they know what's coming and they're trying

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 3>to confuse you, when they're trying to throw you off

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 3>your pivot. It's just different ball game. You got a

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of moving out there in front of you. You

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 3>got to make calls, you got to make line adjustments,

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 3>you got to make you got the second second level

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 3>back is being able to pimp. Man. It's a different ballgame,

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 3>you know now, the Browns haven't been able to get

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 3>that quarterback situation right in a very very long time.

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 3>With that why I think, I mean all of us,

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 3>not just you and I, but the chat as well

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and the other people that are watching you know everything unfold.

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is it's been a very long time

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 3>since the Browns have been in discussion like this and

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 3>then the mainstream media in a very very long time.

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 3>And maybe they got it right this time. Maybe they didn't.

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.439
<v Speaker 3>But if they didn't get it right, the search for

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 3>quarterback number one will still go on after thirty five

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 3>tries of.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying for sure, for sure and and and that's the

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that once you win, there's an expectation to win.

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Joe Flacco coming out off the bench,

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.439
<v Speaker 1>there are no expectations because most times people have the backup.

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>You're not expecting your backup to be able to carry you.

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why he a backup, or he'd be somewhere else

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>starting he wins two or three games. Now the level

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>of expectations we have is risen. Yeah, and then we

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>see the precipitous drop.

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 3>I know what we're doing, all this Browns talking and

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 3>all that. The Browns are very very, very very good.

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 3>And this is coming from a Bengal fan like I'm

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 3>no fool. The equity identity for this team is their defense.

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 3>But the award Newsome, Miles Garrett and the rest of

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 3>the boys, that's their identity. That is who's going to

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 3>win game for them? Now, what you need the quarterback

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 3>to do who would be Flacco? Is we need you

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 3>to play good football, ask what we do of you,

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 3>and don't turn the ball over.

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>This is what Kurt Warner said, the guy that won

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl. He's two time league MVP, he was

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl MVP. He said, I was really looking

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>forward to the competition between Dylan Gabriel and Shadorg Sanders

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in the last preseason game. I know it plays out

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>like this sometimes, but what a bummer? Didn't have the

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>same ops, which is the opportunities to make plays. Dj

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>played well again, but had some good opportunities to make plays,

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 1>and says didn't have those same ops, so it was

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>hard to make too much of an assessment.

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Wait, what is.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean? Listen?

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean ojoe, if you are receiver. If you a receiver,

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>ojo And I'm a receiver. Now when I'm in the game,

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>we call it pass plays. You in the game, they

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>call it run plays. How they gonna fairly judge you

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>when you don't get the same opportunity that I got?

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So how do you judge? How do you judge your door?

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>When you didn't give him a look? He missed some throws,

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>he had some protection sometimes he's gonna have to do

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a better job of getting rid of the football. That's

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>that's always been my biggest gripe with him is that

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>he holds onto the ball too long, and he's trying

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.479
<v Speaker 1>to make every single play and you cannot. There's not

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>ever been a quarterback that can make every single play.

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's okay to throw the ball away. Sometimes it's okay.

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Instead of completing sixty seventy percent of your passes and

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and and and and and seventy with six seven sacks

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>don't do me no good. I'd rather you complete sixty

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>percent of your passes, fifty eight percent of your passes

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and have three sacks as opposed to completing seventy percent

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>and having six or seven sacks. So he's gonna have

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to do a better job of untraining himself. Throw that

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>ball away, and it's okay. You don't have the foot

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>speed to outrun people around the edges. There are not

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>very many defensive ends, if any, that you can beat

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to the edge, So step up in the pocket. They're

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>not there a one two, check it down or throw

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>it away. Go ahead, o't sho you want to say something.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, you're right you're right. I mean, one

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 3>of the things that he does have is he has

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 3>good awareness. He has good pocket presence about based on

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 3>what's around him at times. No of the time you

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 3>feel the pocket collapsing around you, instead of floating back,

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 3>just step up in it, step up in it. And

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>it was hard for him to actually step up because

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 3>once those ends were coming around the guard, the two guards,

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 3>everyone was getting pushed in his face. It was hard

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 3>to be and find.

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>A lanky And they blitzen, they blitzed, they brought, they

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>brought pressure. Yeah, so the offensive line suddenly doesn't know

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>how to hold up once your door Sanders starts playing.

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>But Dylan Gabra has all ready to dance in the pocket.

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Something isn't adding up, jess what. I remember being a

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>young offensive line and fighting for a job. My old

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>line coach came up to me and said, hey, Swartz,

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you need to block worse when Smith is playing quarterback,

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>so he looks bad. Totally normal conspiracy that that happens

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>all the time. No, I don't.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't look to telling you to pay play bad.

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Why am I gonna play?

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to make the team. Me making it first

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of all, oh yo. If I'm an offensive lineman, the

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>quarterback playing good isn't tied to me because if I

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>get beat, No, we're not a package deal. I'm playing

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>good for myself because they're evaluating me. When they cut

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that film on, they ain't really looking at the quarterback drop.

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>They're looking at me. How did I say it? Did

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I get beat inside? Was I supposed to? Was I

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to get beat inside? Did we pay? Did

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I molly like I'm supposed to? Did I combo block?

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Did I pop like I was supposed to? That's what

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>they're judging me on. So for me, I ain't how

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>O yo caught the ball or did the t I

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't run the right route or did the back dude

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to do. I'm worried about my responsibility. That's

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm concerned about. Shannon's responsibility. And then because everybody's

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>getting evaluated, we're not getting evaluated as a package deal

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>man the quarterback play good? Oh so everybody, no, no, no, no,

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>no no. Now, everybody getting evaluated on their own individual plate.

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So I know Jeff was trying to be funny. Look,

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I just think the guys that were in there at

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line, but they weren't very good.

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>And so now you got the perfect storm on Jo.

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>You got four or five offensive line, but that aren't

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>very good, and you got a quarterback to hold onto

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Now you got the perfect storm. Now you

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>got a Category five and you got an earthquake going

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>on at.

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:25.959
<v Speaker 2>The same time.

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, a disaster is about the unfold, and that's what

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>we saw yesterday.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hey man, you do what you can with the

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 3>cars that you're dealt on. That's the way life. And

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>with the cars you're dead. Whatever hand you got, you

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 3>got to play it the best you can. Some hands,

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 3>some hands are great, some hands not so great. That's

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 3>just life in general.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer o JO says, he

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>with me with Michael Parsons after Michaeh was seeing laying

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>on the medical table behind the Dallas Cowboys bench during

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Friday night's final preseason game against the Falcons. Without talking

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>to Michael, I need to figure out what he was

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>doing and why why he was going.

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I don't know what actually roal here.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So until I talk to him, I'm obviously I'm not

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about it.

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>To the media.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>What exactly, because okay, this is what Michael said. Oh Joe,

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>he tweeted, I actually appreciate this. The way the media

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>shapes perception and narratives is wild. If he didn't have

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>if he didn't have anything to say, everyone would just

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>have run with it. I never disrespect the guys out

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>there fighting for their lives. I'm just an interesting clarity

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and fairness. Michael Parson was not laying on the training

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>table all night. In fact, it was only a relatively

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>short peered portion of the evening.

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Well you could have had him in uniform. You're paying

0:31:59.240 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>me the money.

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>That's true, that's true. He two things can be true, Yes,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.719
<v Speaker 3>but I know one thing. Jerry gonna drag this thing

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 3>all the way out. Boy. They place September fourth, if

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not mistaken, is that yeah?

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Thursday? Yes, so a week from Thursday.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Hold on, that's next week Thursday?

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>No, yes, a week from Thursday.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm exactly Listen, if my if

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Mike is not out there, I don't think they stand

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 3>in the chaand defensively, no, they still got If I'm

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 3>not mistaken, they still got twenty six over there in Philly, right, Yes,

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean Philly. They still got they still got Agent.

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>They still got that offensive line too. So I don't

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>know what type of pressure you think you're gonna get

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>without Michael, with Lane and my ladder, now.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Dixon, Dixon might be out right.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:48.479
<v Speaker 3>So I mean one thing that even with even with Dixon. Now, huh,

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 3>come on, now we're talk about the rain of Super

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Bowl champs.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I ain't no I understand what they're again.

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Man, come on now, If anything, it's gonna be a

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 3>game because the Dallas Cowboys offense and they're new at this,

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 3>are gonna be exciting. I'm ready to see. I'm ready

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 3>to see George.

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>If they can hold up, huh, if they can hold

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>up against the Eagle.

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 3>For listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 3>you something. They gonna hold up. It's week one. You

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna have no choice. You ain't gona have no choice.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Boy number four, finna get that ball depth while you

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 3>hear me, he's finna throw that thing in the thirteen.

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 3>He's finna throw that thing in the eighty eight. But

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 3>the boy's gonna get busy. And I'm not I'm not

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 3>even a Cowboys fan. I'm a fan of certain individuals

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 3>and players. You know, I want to see Dak do well.

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I want who I really can by. You want to

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 3>know who I really can't by doing well. I want

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 3>to see George Pickens play. I want to see George

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Pickens lock in for sixteen, seventeen, eighteen goddamn weeks. That's

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 3>what I want to see. Shit, yeah, we talk about Hey,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 3>chat chat, who's your favorite team? Huh chack? Can y'all

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>hear me? Hello? Chat? Who's your team? Who you looking for?

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 3>The who you looking for? The watching week one? No,

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 3>they can hear me. Ship goddamn goddamn cowboys. Jerry don't

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 3>want to pay Michael. I know I got something to

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 3>look forward to. I got for the look and the joy.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I look for the George Pickens. George Pickens.

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>But Michael needs to understand.

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh yo, yeah, what happened to talk to me?

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>It'll be the same situation. If you're under contract, you're

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 1>holding in, not holding out. You're holding in because you're there. Yeah,

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and you'd be standing on the sideline and you're laying down. Michael,

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>what do you what you think people are gonna say?

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, Well, then you already you already, you already.

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>First of all, all the eyes are on you. First

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of all, you're on the Cowboys. That's first and foremost.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Second of all, you're on you're on the training table. Yeah,

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and I understand even if you just laid down for

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>a quick second, they're gonna make it. They're gonna make

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it something. So you I want you to under staying.

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>This is going to be a story until you get signed,

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 1>until you until you're in uniform. So even even if

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't they don't give you a contract, everything you

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 1>do is being monitor They're like, well, Michael don't care.

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Michael doesn't care.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.919
<v Speaker 3>Whoa whoa whoa whoa That that that that is one

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 3>thing we're not gonna let fly. We're not going to

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 3>blame Michael. I'm not talking about you. I'm just saying

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 3>in general, just that narrative about Michael not caring because

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 3>he's laying out, Well, hello, goddamn own it.

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't care, on it, don't care, only doesn't played it.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you a question. Let's just say

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that was a T. J.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Watt and he was holding out and he's laying down

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>on the training table behind the bench.

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>You don't think they will say anything about that.

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that's Jamar

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Chase and the Bengals offense are up and he's laying

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>down behind the training table. You don't think they're gonna

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>say anything about that.

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 2>That's all. That's all I'm saying.

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Michael needs to understand he's a superstar player and and

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you laying down.

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Look, I got you, I got you.

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just what's the word we'd like to use? The optics?

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 3>The optics?

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Optics? Yeah? Yeah?

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Should I be laying down to if I own to

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>talked about me the way he talked about him?

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, hey, either the question is is he

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna miss uh?

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 3>One?

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.760
<v Speaker 2>What is it? One point two million dollars a paycheck?

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>That's the question.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Is he is he willing to risk one point two

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>million dollars pay check?

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Now? He needs to get huh?

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 3>He's there, he's there if he.

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't play, well, you think they're gonna pay him if

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>you don't play?

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 3>My back hurt. I'm in. I'm here, I'm here. You

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>said I'm on the contract, right, Okay, I'm in the contract.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what, I have an injury. I have injury,

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 3>but I'm here. Did you say didn't you say you

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 3>don't want to pay me because it's a chance y'all

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 3>missed some games last year?

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:53.439
<v Speaker 2>What how about what?

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm still here?

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>But what the question is, does he want to go

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>take it to agreement because the Cowboys gonna say we

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>done got MRIs and we got everything and the doctor

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>said everything everything checks out. So now you're gonna tie

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it up.

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a dirty game. Hey, it's a dirty game. The

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 3>fact that the fact that it's even gotten to this

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 3>point but one of the players that are not just

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 3>one of the better player tever, one of the top

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 3>three of this position. The fact that it's even gotten

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 3>to this point. If it was any other team, Michael

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 3>would have had his money. I think he would have

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 3>been in training camp. He would have played in a

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 3>preseason game or two. But Jerry has other ways of

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 3>doing things when it comes to business. He knows obstructed

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.760
<v Speaker 3>to make sure that the noise in the chirping continue

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 3>to stay around that franchise in general. But let you know,

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna pay you when to get ready. You're not

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>You're not. You're not you're not deboying, you're not bullying nothing.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't care who you are. Yeah, Jerry said that

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 3>when he sat down with Stephen A.

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:49.919
<v Speaker 2>Smith.

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I've been right. I've been been there for a long time.

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not heard hooping and hollering from players that were

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 3>disgruntled about contracting their money for a long time. That

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 3>ain't fnna move me. I'm not moving for that. I

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 3>pay you when I get ready.

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:14.240
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna bully Jerry. I've been watching the Netflix special.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh why was it?

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 3>It was good.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.959
<v Speaker 1>It offers a lot of insight. It's what people look.

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Jerry wanted more credit. Jimmy was getting too much of it.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Jerry wanted some of it, and Jimmy like, nah. And

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it came to a head that the man fired a

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>coach that won two championships because he wanted credit and

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't getting.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Enough of it.

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>What he wanted Jimmy to say, Well, the way Jimmy

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>explained it is like and Jerry said, I mean, Jerry

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>out of his own mouth. You run the football. I'm

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna run the business side of it. But the business

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 1>side is not nearly as enticing as the football side,

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>because don't nobody care about the market who's selling all

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this and all the stuff that's up there. They care

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>about that football team. And Jimmy put it together and

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it started. You know, Jerry wanted credit for the herschel

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Walker trade. People said with Jimmy, Jerry, Jimmy says, I

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>can show you in my contract. Well, I was in

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the draft and I was in trying inside the trades.

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Jerry says, no, that didn't happen. Blah blah blah. It

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>was just but if you watching it, you could see

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it building, even not knowing the backs. Now obviously we

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>know this twenty just thirty years ago, o Joe, knowing

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>what we know now, But even if you didn't know anything,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>if you just watch it, you're like, oh, yeah, that's

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>thinking to come to a head.

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna come to a head. Absolutely. And the final

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 2>when you know, Jerry walked through.

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>They had just won the Super Bowl and the coach

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 1>was drinking and Jerry walked through and held his glass

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 1>up and all the other coaches held that class up.

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy did this.

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Hm hmm, Wait they showed that, No.

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 2>They told the story.

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Then Jerry seething because see Jerry wanted to

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it. And see that's the thing. See,

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that's why we tell people everybody rings are not the same.

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>And everybody in an organization might get the ring, but

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:22.839
<v Speaker 1>unless you one of them, got one of the one

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 1>of them guys, right, the fifty three them coaches, it's them,

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it had eh right, right, And so Jerry wanted to

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>be a part of that. But Jimmy like, gro you

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>not you not putting in one hundred hours a week.

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>You getting to go home every night and sleep next

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to your wife. A lot of these guys, don't you

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.919
<v Speaker 1>watched your kids grow up. A lot of these got

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>kids they gonna miss, they gonna blink, and the kids

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>done graduated, and you wasn't there for a lot of

0:40:54.239 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>their special occasion. So Jimmy, Jerry wanted to be a

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 1>part of it. Jimmy resented the fact that just because

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.479
<v Speaker 1>you own the team, you want to be a part

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of it. You can be a part of this, but

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you can see it, you can see it coming. You

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>can see it coming. You can see it coming. Both

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of them are very very prideful men. There's no question

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Jerry he the order of businessman. He could say there

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>ain't a whole lot he can't sell. Not a whole

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>lot he can't sell, and he can swear a lot

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>of people to get on his side. But the way

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>jim the way Jimmy had that team clicking on all cylinders,

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>they might have won.

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Three to four in a row.

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah damn.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Michael, I don't think Michael truly understands who

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>he is, what the Cowboys are.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And everything Texas.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Michael just want to play football. Mike can't worried

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 3>about that. Mike ain't worried about that motherfucker star on

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 3>that helmet. Michael came in there. Okay, I got drafted,

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm here and played for the Cowboys. I understand and

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I understand what it comes with to to an extent,

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 3>but I don't care nothing about that. As you can see,

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 3>I want to play football. I've done something that not

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 3>very many people are coming to this league and done

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 3>after college. I would like to be compensated for what

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm not, not what I've already done, but what I'm

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 3>going to continue to do in the Forestier refuture. Yeah,

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 3>you have an owner who came out and said some

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 3>of the most Outlantis. Things to say about a player

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 3>that is actively under contract, I mean that that I'm

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 3>still I'm still baffled.

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Three more years, I'm a I'm appalled. Jerry, say you

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>want to dance with me? Or do you want or

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>do you want to swim in shark infested waters for

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the next three years?

0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 2>You gotta dance with me?

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Ay at one point, if I'm not mistaken, being a

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Cowboy player in general was covenant. Being a coach the

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Dallas Cowboys was covenant.

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 2>When they won, not no more. That's when they were

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 2>treated like rock stars.

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That's when they was like Hollywood and they was all

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>on the covers and and Troy and Michael and Time

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:25.399
<v Speaker 1>and all.

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Those they were winning. They were winning.

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>There's still a big there's still a big brand, but

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>all those guys are not getting on no cover, no

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 1>magazine like it like it used to be. And this

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>was before the internet. But they're gonna have to make

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a decision. Look, they got a week from Thursday. They play.

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what Jayken. Jerry says, We've got a deal.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Jerry says, we got a deal.

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 3>Jered thet they got his deal.

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>That's what Jerry said.

0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 3>They don't have the deal that Michael Parsons and David

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Will the ghetto have agreed to Jersey.

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter, Jerry say, Hey, the three people involved

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 1>here and you know who to lead. There's me, there's Michael,

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>there's me, and the least important is the agent.

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Hey, you got to be careful, man, You got to

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 3>be careful as a player. Got to be careful as

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 3>a player. Thinking that is your friend, because this is

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 3>what they do. They show, they show your true colors.

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Now they pull it, they pull us off right now.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>While you're valuable. You are value to me, which is

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 3>why I'm treating you like this. Now while you think

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 3>your value, I don't really want to pay you your worth.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 3>But a maturkey and try to shake your hands so

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I can undermine the agent who knows the tricks and

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.479
<v Speaker 3>who knows the tricks I'm trying to pull off. Ain't

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 3>no fool now.

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Language that I just I just need Michael just needs

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to understand. Hey, bro, you don't want to stand and

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I know getting ay standing on that sideline. Now you

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 1>see why all them coaches walk messed up. That's standing

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in three hours, man, that thing. Have your back tight. Hey,

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 1>just go grab your ay, just go grab your seat

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>on the bench. And you're sitting there and watching it

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on the jumbo tron. They probably have something to say

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>about that. But hey, yeah, hey I'm here. I might

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>here supporting my teammates.

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I got a question. Yes, Dallas Cowboys flipped up the

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Eagles week one Thursday night when you got winning.

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be the most watched Thursday night

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>football game in NFL history.

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'm gonna take the Eagles.

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you sure you sure you be sure about that?

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. I want the Eagles.

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I want the Eagles to win forty five to seven.

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>God damn, because I want my goel to get his money.

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>You remember, back in ninety three when they started the

0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>season oh and two, the only way every got his

0:45:59.239 --> 0:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>money money.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I want Michael to get his money. I want I

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>want Jalen Hurst to throw for three hundred. I want

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Say Kwan to run for a buck fifty. I want

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>those two wide receivers to go over one hundred, damn.

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>And I want the time of possession to be something

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like sixty minutes in game, something like thirty eight thirty

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>nine minutes to twenty twenty one, because I want my

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>goe to get his money. Oh, he's doing a model citizen.

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>He's done everything, he's done everything the right way. Right

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 1>now you want to hold up the man money.

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that's that's that's I.

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we have a deal and my and he keeps saying,

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, we have a deal, a deal that

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>a contract is a meeting between the minds. Michael doesn't

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>believe you guys have a deal. That's why they have paper.

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you a question, could they could

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 1>they do this? And so in Jerry's mind, this ain't

0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>worth nothing in a NMFL binding. That's why they have contra.

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why they had to go to writing it down

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>on paper. Because a contract, in its general form was

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a meeting of the mind.

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Two people had agreed and the word your word was

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>your bond.

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>And then what happened all of a sudden that ain't

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>what I said, That ain't what I meant, and say,

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what, write it down. So in Jerry's mind

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and Michael and Michael mine, they don't have a contract, right,

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>So it has to be a meeting of the mind

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>before the contract to be binding.

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 3>So oh, Jerry boy, Jerry tried to pull a fast

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 3>on blank.

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure, it's move talker.

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh.

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh Joe.

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>It took twenty two years, but Jerry Jones had finally

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>admitted he let his ego play a role in the

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>end of the Dallas Cowboy glory days. Jones and former

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>coach Jimmy Johnson ended their relationship after consecutive Super Bowl

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>wins in nineteen ninety ninety three. Neither man had accept

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the responsibility for the demise of the relationship, but Jerry said,

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I lost my tolerance for a lot of things. I

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>probably should have had a little bit more tolerance for

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Johnson. Seriously, those are some big words coming from

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>a man that once said five hundred coaches could have

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 1>won those super bowls with this team. Since Swifzer, Jerry

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:24.320
<v Speaker 1>has hired five coaches who have delivered just two playoff wins.

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 2>See the difference is you see what he.

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Said, Yeah, five coach, five hundred coaches could have won

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl with that team. How many of those

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 1>five hundred coaches could have built that team?

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Because that's what Jerry did.

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>See You could have a lot of people that can

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>live in the house old Joe, But how many people

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>can build a house that they eat or she lives in.

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>See that's what Jerry forgot. See that's what That's what

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Jerry forgot. Five hundred coaches could coach this team, yes,

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>but how many of them can build the team. I'm

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>sure there are a lot of coaches could have coached

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles. How many of them could do with Howard

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Roseman deal did and build it. See, you find very

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>few coaches that that can coach and build. Jimmy built

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that from scratch. He built it from scratch.

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, Jerry started work. But the thing was, he wouldn't

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 2>let Jimmy.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't let Jimmy go on on no meetings, no advertising,

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.840
<v Speaker 1>no marketing meetings. He wouldn't let Jimmy do that because

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not what Jimmy was. That's not what he happened.

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But said started rolling good all that credit everybody about Jimmy.

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy's built one of the best teams. Jimmy, Jimmy, he

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear enough.

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Jerry.

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>He looks back, he looked, he looked at it. He

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>could have they could have easily had a team fifteen

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 1>year run, just like the Patriots had a twenty They

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>could have got at least half that because you got

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to realize Emmit, Troy, and Mike was in their prime.

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I think Mike was the oldest at twenty eight.

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Dam Will they ever get back to that type of

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 3>prominence again in domination? Yeah?

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 1>No, league is two balance now, right, and they don't.

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 1>They don't get consistent of enough play at the quarterback position.

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 2>M hm.

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.919
<v Speaker 1>And nobody's gonna trade you or Charles. You're not gonna

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to get a time and nobody's gonna trade

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you or Charles Haley level defensive player.

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's prime.

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 3>Well here you got you got one not too far

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 3>off now based on what we have to work with

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 3>in today's NFL. You got one. You don't want to

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:54.799
<v Speaker 3>pay right.

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Now, Yeah, but think about it.

0:50:57.880 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Got a difference maker.

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Troy Hall of Famer, Emmitt Hall of Famer, Michael Hall

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of Famer, Larry Allen Hall of Famer, Charles Haley Hall

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 1>of Famer, Deon Sanders Hall of Famer. That's six. Darren

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Woodson is on the CUSP, So that's six guys. So

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>how many Hall of Famers you think they got on

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that team right now. And the offensive line was dominant.

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:36.280
<v Speaker 3>And boy were big bright.

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Big easy step Gogan, the two of Nay Newton. Larry

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>came later, but they were dominant.

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.399
<v Speaker 3>And I went to the Pro Bowl with Larry one year. Man,

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 3>that joke was strong. Remember they had them competitions. Competition, Yeah,

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.959
<v Speaker 3>the racing and the man Larry Allen must have benched

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 3>five man twenty million time, like, man, what the hell?

0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But I saw this episode and Jerry is telling the

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>story after he fired Jimmy. He comes home and he

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 1>gets in the bed and he lays next to his wife, Jean,

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and so she said, you just couldn't help yourself, say

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you just can't let good be good. You just cut

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and cut it. And as he's saying it, he starts,

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:43.240
<v Speaker 1>he almost starts to way up because a lot of times,

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 1>ohto when things are good, you think they're gonna be

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>like that forever. And he realizes now just how hard

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it is, because see, when things come at me to

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 1>think about it. He bought the team in eighty nine,

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and then by ninety three he has back to back

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowls ninety one ninety two, So it's fourth year

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of buying the team. He's in the super Bowl Bowl

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the fifth year. They got two super Bowls in five years?

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>What you think happening? They think that's gonna be easy.

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Look at the team we got. A quarterback is in

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>his mid twenties, running back like twenty five, Michael Irban

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 1>like twenty eight.

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Huh, ego, you see what happens now.

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>He said he had something on his desk that if

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't care who gets the credit, you can conquer

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the world. He said he had that on his desk

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>for twenty years. But see the way he had it

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:41.439
<v Speaker 1>placed on his desk. It was facing out. He never

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>read it. Everybody else that would come in that would

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>read that, but he should have had one that was

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>facing him.

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Also.

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh that's crazy.

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 1>They were special, you had We played them. I mean

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 1>we played them. We played him in ninety two, the

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>first year they won. We took him right down to

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the why they end up scoring they beat us? Uh,

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.799
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I think they scored late in the

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>ball game. I think they scored like two minutes to

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 1>go to beat us. And then we played them again

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:11.319
<v Speaker 1>in ninety five, a year they won. They were they

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 1>were good, They were they were really really really really

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 1>really good, and they were young, and they were athletic,

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and they were physical. They were a physical team. Jimmy,

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.279
<v Speaker 1>do you hear Jimmy. Early on they say, hey, let

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the mind control the body, don't let the body control

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the mind.

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jimmy, Hey, Jimmy said, I'm pushing them further that

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you could think you can go. Jimmy said, hey, dude,

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>had asthma. He said, hey, have asthma on that field.

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't you have asthma on this damn field? Have asthma

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 1>over there. Damn, Jimmy, the band can't help.

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>We ain't having an asthma attacks man.

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Man, Jimmy didn't play. Jimmy did not play. But uh,

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Jerry looking at that and seeing

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it could and the realization like, damn, we really had it.

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.279
<v Speaker 1>We really had a chance to be the Patriots before

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots.

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't think you don't.

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Think that, mister Crabb got tired of hearing coach Belichick,

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Coach Belichick, Coach Belichick, Tom Brady, Tom Brady, Tom Brady.

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Man, let me come on, let me keep on collecting

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:26.919
<v Speaker 2>these rings.

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm the ring collector and all they cared about.

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's it.

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, two different two different type, two different types

0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 3>of personalities too, two different approaches to the game and

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 3>how I'm going to conduct myself and not only owning

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.879
<v Speaker 3>a team, but allowing those below me to do their job.

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the thing is. But mister Crabb understood.

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he learned from Jerry's mistakes. I ain't going

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to mess this up, right, I'm not going to mess

0:55:58.000 --> 0:55:58.359
<v Speaker 1>this up.