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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, November twenty seventh, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,
Speaker 1: episode number ninety one. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Bills.
Speaker 1: It's Thanksgiving Day tomorrow. We're gonna eat good. No, you
Speaker 1: guys will eat good and we will certainly have some
Speaker 1: good football hopefully for you guys to be able to
Speaker 1: check out. Got my crew here. Let's talk about hopefully
Speaker 1: if we don't finished the day saying, well, at least
Speaker 1: the food was good. Hopefully it doesn't go down that way.
Speaker 1: I mean, the food's gonna be good regardless, I know,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: For those that feel sorry for us that we don't
Speaker 1: get to have Thanksgiving dinner at home. Don't like the
Speaker 1: food at the stadium pretty freaking good. I'm not complaining.
Speaker 1: We will enjoy dinner and hopefully we will enjoy a
Speaker 1: good football game. Let's talk first about injuries, though. Catt
Speaker 1: was at two players that did not practice yesterday late
Speaker 1: in Vanderesh, which was expected, Antoine Woods as well. What
Speaker 1: do we know about Woods? Because I think we all
Speaker 1: agree Vanderesh isn't playing this week. See there's Woods, Okay,
Speaker 1: So Woods? Is that a what's his injury? Mcl? Mcl?
Speaker 1: Because he looked pretty bad, Dave. I think you were
Speaker 1: walking on me when we were getting off the plane
Speaker 1: last week Sunday night. I guess it would have been
Speaker 1: Monday morning, and he didn't look like he was walking
Speaker 1: very well at all. Is this a long term thing
Speaker 1: for him or is this just kind of a week
Speaker 1: to week Well, he already did this in Week two
Speaker 1: and I think it cost him. He was out until
Speaker 1: the Packer game, I believe, so week two he was
Speaker 1: out for the Dolphins and then the Saints after that.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you're probably talking a minimum of this game.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they have you know, they're not
Speaker 1: on a long week they don't get that many bye
Speaker 1: week because the Bears is Thursday. I would guess he'll
Speaker 1: miss both of these games and then get the mini
Speaker 1: bye week and he gets the Mini by and so
Speaker 1: I'm circling the Rams game for him. But we'll see
Speaker 1: the guys that were limited. Talk to me about kind
Speaker 1: of where they are. You got Lyall Collins, Jeff, Zach Martin,
Speaker 1: Connor Williams. The expectation is that in a normal week,
Speaker 1: you'd feel like they were doing pretty well, but on
Speaker 1: a short week, how do you feel about it? I
Speaker 1: think they're all available, yeah, Zach Martin. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be the issue there, not not to play, but
Speaker 1: just how he gets himself ready, because I mean he's becoming,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the older guys. And we saw
Speaker 1: this week, you know with Tony Romo five years ago,
Speaker 1: where he was getting himself ready every Sunday to play,
Speaker 1: but when he had to play the Thursday game, he
Speaker 1: was terrible. And that happened again in the next year
Speaker 1: on a short week, and so you wonder what these
Speaker 1: back injuries and what they're doing to manage it. You
Speaker 1: hope that you know, in in four days they can
Speaker 1: get it done. I think it'll be fine. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, well, he's gonna play, but we'll see if
Speaker 1: he plays well. I think there's a guy that weighs
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pounds across from them that gets
Speaker 1: seven sacks. Every football player I've ever asked about it
Speaker 1: says like you're really only starting to feel like yourself
Speaker 1: by Thursday, and that's the day that these guys have
Speaker 1: to play. So amazing. Yeah, it is, but I think
Speaker 1: they'll all be in uniform, even Jeff. He was the
Speaker 1: one I was worried about. But I think he's trending
Speaker 1: in the right direction too. But they're probably not gonna
Speaker 1: be feeling great. Yeah, but it is what it is
Speaker 1: because the league likes ratings. Well. Good thing is. I
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys have been doing it since nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: I know our sixty seven. I just I hate Thursday football.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's not good for players. But do
Speaker 1: you watch it, of course, and that's why they do it,
Speaker 1: all right, I know I know why they do it,
Speaker 1: and I know it's not going to change. I just
Speaker 1: think it's stupid to claim you care about player safety
Speaker 1: and make everybody play on Thursdays. I just don't agree
Speaker 1: with it. Well, we will be out there on Thursday,
Speaker 1: Cowboys will be playing, and hopefully these guys will be
Speaker 1: prepared to be able to play even on a short week.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the inactives, though, I think we've already
Speaker 1: mentioned Lake Vandersh Antoine Woods. If you go through the
Speaker 1: list of the guys from last week that we're inactive,
Speaker 1: it looks like you'd have one one of those guys
Speaker 1: that could come up. I'll read those names for me
Speaker 1: and tell me which guy you think should actually come up,
Speaker 1: because you'll have an extra spot. You've got Cedric Wilson,
Speaker 1: Devin Smith, Donovan Wilson, Joe Jackson, Brandon Knight, Tristan Hill,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hills coming up for Antoine Woods. Is that it?
Speaker 1: That would be the only one because last week did
Speaker 1: that was the list and you and now you're adding
Speaker 1: Woods to the inactive. I probably would put Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 1: I would think if he's healthy, he might come up
Speaker 1: over maybe Josh Jones because of the because of heath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well and he was over Josh Jones or I can't
Speaker 1: even remember the guy's name. Avonte Burton, Burton music corner. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you keep he's active. I know he's coming back,
Speaker 1: but it's like even him hurting his shoulder again in
Speaker 1: that play, it just looks so so nasty to hit,
Speaker 1: you know, and that that's an area that you're constantly
Speaker 1: hidden when you're playing that position. Both shoulders too, yeah, both.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just I feel bad for him.
Speaker 1: It's classic situation. So yeah, well there was surly when
Speaker 1: he was asked about today, was like, do you learn
Speaker 1: anything else about him this week? Because I didn't learn
Speaker 1: anything about him? Long pause and then like that I
Speaker 1: didn't already know. It was kind of like like I
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of you know, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I can see what you're saying there, or why Garrett
Speaker 1: is so uptight. He's Yeah, he's been. I mean he's been.
Speaker 1: His boss is just throwing him out there. Honestly. I
Speaker 1: don't know if thats as much of it as he's
Speaker 1: just they're not winning like they probably thought they would be.
Speaker 1: I mean, that has him out there, Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: probably that's probably there's probably nothing that he thought wasn't
Speaker 1: being like he you know, when you're not performing right,
Speaker 1: and so when you're not when things aren't going well
Speaker 1: at work, it doesn't take your boss saying anything. You know,
Speaker 1: are things aren't good? You know things it No, it
Speaker 1: doesn't help, but didn't say it doesn't make it anything.
Speaker 1: Like it's already bad because you're already like as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, sometimes you're probably sitting there thinking, I
Speaker 1: know he's I know he's thinking that I'm screwing this
Speaker 1: up and he's not saying things. I wonder what he's thinking.
Speaker 1: Then when he comes out and says it, then at
Speaker 1: least you know, right, And I think I'm trying to
Speaker 1: put myself in this position, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm like, uh, it's been rough, Dave, like I
Speaker 1: know I'm not doing well, but yeah I need to
Speaker 1: pick it up. Like I think i'd feel better if
Speaker 1: you were like, look, Dave's got this long track record
Speaker 1: of doing well for us. He's gonna be fine. Like
Speaker 1: if you if I heard you saying like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: screwing up, man, like that would ruin meetings that you're
Speaker 1: not in, so you wouldn't know that. That's a good point. Wow, thanks, well,
Speaker 1: all right, thanks nervous, right, thanks, y, No, that's my point, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that I don't think that Jason doesn't
Speaker 1: think that when he's six and five, with the team
Speaker 1: that he has and the expectations coming into this season,
Speaker 1: I don't think that he believes that when Jerry and
Speaker 1: Stephen and maybe even Will are sitting around talking about
Speaker 1: the state of the team, that his name isn't coming
Speaker 1: up and there aren't things that are being said that
Speaker 1: may not be favorable, right. I just but it's not
Speaker 1: what he's doing, though, But what he's doing, and I
Speaker 1: said this earlier today, and I'm not I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that it's a bad thing. I think Jerry's trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, turn over every stone. But he is Jerry
Speaker 1: creating a distraction this week, Yes he is. He's creating
Speaker 1: a distraction for this team. Do you think so? Yes?
Speaker 1: I mean he's going on NFL Network and saying those
Speaker 1: things and on the radio, and he didn't back down
Speaker 1: for what he said on Sundays saying he's being as
Speaker 1: harsh as he's ever been. And when in the locker room,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about these linebackers and for the Bills,
Speaker 1: we're talking about what Jerry said, and Jason Witten's asked
Speaker 1: about Jerry and Jason Garrett's been asked about Jerry. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's create hating it, but that's that's I mean, he
Speaker 1: sat around long enough and not said it. Maybe that
Speaker 1: he's like, what else can I do? You know what
Speaker 1: I was thinking, sorry, what I was thinking this morning
Speaker 1: as I was getting ready. I don't know why, but
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you fired the guy right now
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I know his contract and it's
Speaker 1: coming up. But I was going back and thinking of
Speaker 1: Jerry and the way he's handled things and how he's
Speaker 1: fired other coaches just kind of without hesitation in in
Speaker 1: the history of different coaches, and the way that he's
Speaker 1: gone about it. I'm like, Wow, I wonder what it
Speaker 1: is that hasn't gone him to that point where he's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm kind of fed up with this.
Speaker 1: I need a different coach because he's done that in
Speaker 1: the past. But yet with Garrett, he stuck with him
Speaker 1: for how many years has it been now? Like Dine,
Speaker 1: So I was just wondering, I'm like, what does Garrett
Speaker 1: have that appeals so much to Jerry Jones? I honestly
Speaker 1: think that that Jerry at this point he wants. He
Speaker 1: probably feels like I hired this guy when he was young.
Speaker 1: He was a young coach, he didn't have a head
Speaker 1: coaching experience. I thought he was really really smart. I
Speaker 1: thought he knew football well, and so I figured when
Speaker 1: I hired him, I figured, I'm in this for the
Speaker 1: long haul, which means I'm gonna have to go through
Speaker 1: the growing pains to get him to the point where
Speaker 1: he's a great coach. Like you think about the great
Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL, some of them it took a
Speaker 1: while for them to get to be great, right, And
Speaker 1: I think Jerry honestly believed, maybe still even believes that
Speaker 1: he will at some point be a great coach, and
Speaker 1: he just had to let him go through the changes
Speaker 1: in order to get to that point. I also think
Speaker 1: we would all agree Jason can be enormously impressive in
Speaker 1: like a one on one or like an intimate setting.
Speaker 1: Right I'm not talking about his press conferences, but like
Speaker 1: if he's heading up a meeting or giving a talk privately,
Speaker 1: or you know, a coaching interview, I bet he. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's probably blown Jerry and whoever else away more times
Speaker 1: than you can count, because he's organized, he's a good speaker,
Speaker 1: he has a planning, good motivating people, Like, on the
Speaker 1: off chance he is to leave the Cowboys, he'll blow
Speaker 1: somebody away in an interview in the future. And I
Speaker 1: think Jerry sees that and thinks or knows or whatever
Speaker 1: it can translate. It hasn't yet, So all of that
Speaker 1: contributes to why he continues to believe. Everybody told me
Speaker 1: this early on when I started working here. Jerry wants
Speaker 1: to win, but Jerry wants to win Jerry's way, Like,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, he wants to win his way. And
Speaker 1: so when you ask that question, I think, and you
Speaker 1: said it perfectly, he hand picked this guy. This was
Speaker 1: the one. So if Jason Garrett has success, then Jerry
Speaker 1: is going to get credit for that because he's the
Speaker 1: one that had the vision way back when and go
Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a great coach, and so
Speaker 1: he's that's why he's he's hanging in there, and that's
Speaker 1: why he probably doesn't want to fire him and won't
Speaker 1: fire him. He I don't think he will fire Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: I really don't want it. He doesn't come back, this
Speaker 1: season will end, there's no contract, and you move on.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go as far as I say I
Speaker 1: disagree with you. But that's why I think this week
Speaker 1: is so interesting, because we're all smart enough to know
Speaker 1: that there have been some blunt conversations in private, but
Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones to come out and publicly say some
Speaker 1: of the things he's said, I agree with you. Like,
Speaker 1: my gut feeling is like, well, he's not under contract
Speaker 1: this year. If it doesn't work out, you just let
Speaker 1: him walk away when the season's over, and there's no
Speaker 1: need to do something drastic. But some of the stuff
Speaker 1: Jerry's saying makes me think, like, if this doesn't drastically
Speaker 1: pick up Thursday and the week after that, I'm becoming
Speaker 1: to the point where I'd be less surprised if he
Speaker 1: didn't make it through the season based on what I'm hearing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not buying it because I honestly believe And again,
Speaker 1: we're all making a lot of guests here because we
Speaker 1: don't know what Jerry's really thinking. My guess is Jerry
Speaker 1: wanted to stir this thing up, and he wanted to
Speaker 1: put the coaches and the players on notice that look,
Speaker 1: what you're doing right now is not good enough. And
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it, it is not good enough.
Speaker 1: And I think he's looking at it like, I'm hoping
Speaker 1: to spur these guys, right, Either one of the two
Speaker 1: things is gonna happen, if you're gonna spur them a
Speaker 1: greatness or they're not gonna get there. And then it's like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: but that's we dried everything. And I guess that's my
Speaker 1: point is like, maybe it's too dramatic to say it's
Speaker 1: a line in the sand, but once you put those
Speaker 1: comments out there and say, like, we need to win
Speaker 1: some damn games. And I think on Tuesday morning he said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see an inspired effort against the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: Like if they come out and lose to the Bills
Speaker 1: and then again, you know, maybe taking a step further
Speaker 1: and they go up to Chicago and lose in a
Speaker 1: miserable cold game up there. We've seen that before. Don't
Speaker 1: you have to make good on I hate to call
Speaker 1: it a threat, but don't you have to make good
Speaker 1: on what you said? But but what you said doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily say you're gonna make a move now. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: And here's the problem. If the Cowboys felt to a
Speaker 1: point where they were out of it, then maybe I
Speaker 1: buy what you're saying. I don't see I don't see
Speaker 1: the happy out of it where they are. That's my point.
Speaker 1: Where they are with Philly, I don't think they're ever
Speaker 1: gonna be out of it. And so you're not gaining
Speaker 1: anything by putting a new coaching. You're not gonna get
Speaker 1: better about putting in a new coach. Now. Now, if
Speaker 1: you were out of it, then it might just be
Speaker 1: a definitive thing of being able to say to fans, look,
Speaker 1: this wasn't good enough. He's gone. But I don't think
Speaker 1: you're going to be in that well. And another thing
Speaker 1: that we mentioned is how do the players feel about it?
Speaker 1: Does they start dividing people inside the locker room? And
Speaker 1: are they still following Jason Garrett. So I think that
Speaker 1: once you start seeing that kind of attitude from players,
Speaker 1: then he just all goes down heel from there. That's
Speaker 1: an interesting point because to this point we have never seen,
Speaker 1: or at least met person. I've never seen a situation
Speaker 1: where Jason has lost his locker room no matter how
Speaker 1: things how bad things got. Yeah, they always played hard
Speaker 1: for him and they always gave their best effort. They
Speaker 1: may have been a couple situations here and there where
Speaker 1: they didn't perform well, but I never felt like the
Speaker 1: team wasn't responding to him. Which, for the record, if
Speaker 1: I had to put money on it, I don't think
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett would be fired before the end of the
Speaker 1: regular season. But this is not the status quo. Like
Speaker 1: the status quo is something bad happens, everybody's frustrated, the
Speaker 1: fans are fed up, and Jerry is kind of standing
Speaker 1: in the middle of it taking the brunt of that frustration,
Speaker 1: saying it's fine. I believe in my guy, and he's
Speaker 1: not saying that this week, and so I have to
Speaker 1: at least allow that this feels different, which means you
Speaker 1: don't know one hundred percent for sure what's going to
Speaker 1: happen that I think he's fired if they lose Thursday.
Speaker 1: Really see, that's my point. I just don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I don't want season Nessarily he gets fired on Thursday,
Speaker 1: what happens then? Yeah, you pick an inter him and
Speaker 1: you have to pick an you know, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who do you here? This football team was one and
Speaker 1: seven and two thy ten. Their offense was playing like crap.
Speaker 1: And guess what the offensive coordinator Jason Garrett got a promotion.
Speaker 1: Did you deserve it right then? Form based off of
Speaker 1: how he was coaching? No? Yes, but at one and
Speaker 1: seven they were out of it. I know you're not
Speaker 1: going to be out of it no matter what happens
Speaker 1: is Thursday. But I agree with what Dave said. I
Speaker 1: hadn't thought of it until he just said that. It's scary.
Speaker 1: You don't I make good points from time. You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't go out there and throw it out there
Speaker 1: like that. And then and then and then what well
Speaker 1: you said that you have to win and you and
Speaker 1: now you're six and six football team because you just
Speaker 1: lost her to the Bill. Yeah. But the point is,
Speaker 1: again we're talking about the eternal optimist here. He still
Speaker 1: is in it. His team will still be at the
Speaker 1: end of the sturge, whether they went to lose, they
Speaker 1: will still be leading the division. But that's right, and
Speaker 1: I agree, so and so until until a point where
Speaker 1: they're no longer in it, or they no longer have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to turn things around. Then I don't think
Speaker 1: that he would make that move. But how many times
Speaker 1: has Jerry Jones. I don't want to say happily but
Speaker 1: willingly kind of taking that heat. I brought this up
Speaker 1: the other day. Remember last year when the offense was
Speaker 1: a joke and he went on the radio and said, like,
Speaker 1: we're a couple of players away from being the Rams.
Speaker 1: He got roasted for saying that, and it was it
Speaker 1: was obviously bs, but he was standing up for his
Speaker 1: guys and his team. It's this is not normal. It's
Speaker 1: not normal for him to not be taking the heat
Speaker 1: for Jason Garrett and the coaching staff. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that means he's gonna do anything drastic, but I
Speaker 1: have to at least allow for the possibility. Think of this. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be Christopher Shard would be the interim coach. Okay,
Speaker 1: six and six to the Bills. You don't fire Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: You hang in there. They win a game against the Bears,
Speaker 1: lose to the Rams, beat the Eagles, lose or I
Speaker 1: mean or lose to the Eagles or whatever whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Say you're eight and eight and you and you get
Speaker 1: into the playoffs because you lost these two games, but
Speaker 1: you beat the Eagles and the Redskins, and you're eight
Speaker 1: and eight and you get in. Is that good for
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett? Like, and then they lose in the divisional right,
Speaker 1: that's not good. Okay, the next scenario six and six,
Speaker 1: you fire Jason Garrett, Chris Richard comes in, they win
Speaker 1: a game, then they lose a game or whatever. Then
Speaker 1: they lose the Eagles, but they beat the Redskins whatever.
Speaker 1: They're eight and eight, they get in the playoffs. That's
Speaker 1: a different story. Now you're looking at it like, well,
Speaker 1: he saved it, he got him in the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: think I think that did he? Though, I mean because
Speaker 1: I think most people would agree Jason probably do the
Speaker 1: same thing. Right, if you're talking about eight and eight
Speaker 1: playoffs team, I mean that that's what Jason does, right.
Speaker 1: He never made the playoffs at eight and night actually right,
Speaker 1: But at least you get an early taste of Chris
Speaker 1: Rashard and what he can possibly do instead of just
Speaker 1: going into a full year next year of trying out
Speaker 1: what he would look like as a head coach. But
Speaker 1: if Christoph Shard didn't win out, did you see enough
Speaker 1: that made you say, oh, yeah, he's the guy? In fact,
Speaker 1: if he charged it around. Let's say they made the
Speaker 1: move and Chris Shard got him to win out, I
Speaker 1: don't think, and they got a couple of playoff wins
Speaker 1: that probably changes your perspective and says he's your guy.
Speaker 1: Without that, I don't know that. But at least they
Speaker 1: get to see how he is in those meeting rooms
Speaker 1: as a head coach, how he takes like, how he
Speaker 1: handles everything responsive. Yeah, yeah, because it's like, are you
Speaker 1: gonna magically turn this team around? I don't know, and
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would really expect that to happen,
Speaker 1: or if it did, great, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't get that much time to create magic,
Speaker 1: you know. And when you mentioned Garrett becoming the internet
Speaker 1: interim coach, what was the season like? It was like?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, honestly, the reason why that happened
Speaker 1: is not so much even I don't think because they
Speaker 1: were one seven. It was how they got to one
Speaker 1: and seven. Those last two games before the coach got fired,
Speaker 1: they basically were not playing football like, they were just
Speaker 1: getting just beat up. And so when it gets to
Speaker 1: that point where basically they're not responding to coach or
Speaker 1: the coach just doesn't have answers for them, and then
Speaker 1: you have to make a move just because you have
Speaker 1: to make a move, and it's middle of the season.
Speaker 1: You're already one and seven. You're not going to the
Speaker 1: playoffs at that point. So I think that was a
Speaker 1: whole different scenario than where you are right now. If
Speaker 1: he's fired, Do you think that the next coach is
Speaker 1: here right now? No? I don't, And I honestly I
Speaker 1: think they would go a way more experienced head coach,
Speaker 1: because you know, they kind of bounces back and forth.
Speaker 1: You get a really experienced one, and then you get
Speaker 1: one that's let's take a chance on. Then you get
Speaker 1: a really experienced and then you take the one's and
Speaker 1: you take a flyer on right which is why I
Speaker 1: think is here you do? Do you think so righty too? Oh?
Speaker 1: Stop it, No, we don't do that. No Space Nicks stroll.
Speaker 1: He looks all written all over it. Man from now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna call nine out of the booth. He's gonna
Speaker 1: come in, Caden, Caden, clip this, clip this, because when
Speaker 1: this happens, we're gonna happen. You're gonna show Derek be
Speaker 1: like and as a coach, bring back Romo. Take Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee as the Here's I've really enjoyed this conversation, but
Speaker 1: till I messed it up. Yeah, No, I don't know
Speaker 1: that it's a I think that's at the very least
Speaker 1: it's a fun ye think. No, I think it's it's
Speaker 1: only want to go. That's interesting, that's a whole show.
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with what you said about the
Speaker 1: back and forth of a guy that you you know,
Speaker 1: a younger guy. But okay, if that's not the case,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna just make a splash, what what are
Speaker 1: you doing? How many draft picks are you giving up
Speaker 1: for New Orleans? I'm sorry, Jesus, I'm just saying, come on, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, what are you gonna do? How
Speaker 1: are you gonna splash this thing? He's Bill seventy seventy two,
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna do that. Yeah, Jimmy's good in
Speaker 1: the booth. I mean, I mean there are he's out there,
Speaker 1: and I think we wait and have this conversation at
Speaker 1: the end of the season, about three hours up the road.
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to get too far
Speaker 1: into this conversation. I think that's a conversation we have
Speaker 1: after the season's over. If it doesn't go the way
Speaker 1: that that we suspect um it would have to go
Speaker 1: in order to stay. But let's go ahead and take
Speaker 1: our final break, our first break, first break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, so much more to say no because we
Speaker 1: still got some buffalo bills and we're talking about stuff
Speaker 1: we can talk about. I thank you from now. I
Speaker 1: thought for you, most of the most of the listening
Speaker 1: would rather listen to us talk about the coach. I guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, speed's take a break. Come back,
Speaker 1: we'll do a little bill talk. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: September twenty nineteen. Back to the Break. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the second segment of The Break, Mortgage Studios and Start Day. Sorry,
Speaker 1: they did a lot of work. Now tell me about
Speaker 1: the buckles. It's Thanksgiving week, Like I mean, I did it,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I probably didn't grind as hard on
Speaker 1: this one as I have on others. Sorry, I mean whatever,
Speaker 1: we're being honest with people. Uh No, there, the Bills
Speaker 1: are really good. Their third and overall defense. Um, their
Speaker 1: their secondary is really what makes them go. Um they're
Speaker 1: only given up sixteen points per game. I said yesterday,
Speaker 1: They've scored twenty or less points in half of their
Speaker 1: games and still managed to win half of those. Do
Speaker 1: they have anybody as good as Gilmore? Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: Guy by the name of Tredavious White who went to
Speaker 1: l s U. Agriculture and Mechanical College's Okay, well so
Speaker 1: did Eric Reid, Tyron Matthew, Patrick Peterson. We don't have
Speaker 1: to get into that. Um, he's really good. He's really good.
Speaker 1: Not taking that bait. He's really good. Good guy. He follows.
Speaker 1: He's a classic cover corner. He follows his man He
Speaker 1: held Courtland Sutton to one catch for twenty seven yards
Speaker 1: last week. Cartland Sutton's good. He's not as good as
Speaker 1: a Mari Cooper, not saying he is, but every time
Speaker 1: a Mari he's at to face those kind of cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: This year it hasn't ended up great. Was considered that
Speaker 1: kind of corner but yeah, he kicked a baby and
Speaker 1: Howard around. Yeah, he thinks he's stadium. Do you know
Speaker 1: the stats? It's unbelievable. It's like it's like having to
Speaker 1: the last two nineteens. It's like having Bryce Butler, sorry,
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler and Amari Cooper home and away. It's a
Speaker 1: completely different player now. It's unbelievable at home and then
Speaker 1: he's been okay on the road, and I think I
Speaker 1: think he's back at home. There won't be any you know,
Speaker 1: crappy conditions. Trey White. I mean he's super athletic. He's
Speaker 1: a press man beast, he's he's footwork is great. He's
Speaker 1: I mean, he's physical for a cornerback. He's still a cornerback,
Speaker 1: but he's a willing tackle. He's got great ball skills.
Speaker 1: Four picks this year. He's got as many picks on
Speaker 1: his own as the entire Dallas secondary. Um. He's really good.
Speaker 1: I completely expect him to follow Amari everywhere. I think
Speaker 1: Amari can still have some success. But that is probably
Speaker 1: the number one matchup to watch. Um. They got pass rushers.
Speaker 1: Nick brought it up, Jordan Phillips, journeyman defensive tackle, kind
Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere to have seven sacks for
Speaker 1: this team. Well, he's kicking ass. You have one that
Speaker 1: says how much do you weigh? Three? Yeah, he's like
Speaker 1: more of a nose to seven sacks for three forty.
Speaker 1: I mean there's defensive tackle, yes, yeah, Well what else
Speaker 1: is he? I know? But I'm like, I'm like, is
Speaker 1: he just like a really big defensive end that's so
Speaker 1: tall that three forty doesn't like that's a huge guy
Speaker 1: to get seven sacks? Which, geez, this is this is
Speaker 1: really interesting for me being a draft nerd. Is like
Speaker 1: they're kind of the island of misfit toys. They've taken
Speaker 1: a lot of other people's really talented pass rushers and
Speaker 1: turned them into guys that produce Star Latoulay. You might
Speaker 1: remember him first round pick Carolina. He's playing tackle. Jerry Hughes,
Speaker 1: who was a flop for India at a TCU New
Speaker 1: life in Buffalo. He's become like one of their best
Speaker 1: players over the last four or five years. Trip Murphy,
Speaker 1: who was actually the guy the Washington Redskins drafted I
Speaker 1: believe with the pick that the Cowboys gave him for
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. He's up there playing well. They have Ed Oliver,
Speaker 1: which I was, oh, yeah, I was shocked at this.
Speaker 1: But if he's not, he's not even starting. Really, that's
Speaker 1: how well the play. He does have three sacks, so
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's pretty good. Something they've got they
Speaker 1: can rotate. But he's coming home to Texas, so he
Speaker 1: might have a thirty three sacks on the season. The
Speaker 1: big stat I would advise you to know is tied
Speaker 1: for the NFL lead in tackles for loss sixty nine.
Speaker 1: Really nice performance there. Um, that's fun. What else? Um?
Speaker 1: I think their secondary is really their strength. You've got
Speaker 1: Trey White, Micah Hyde playing safety. He's kind of a rover,
Speaker 1: does a little bit of everything. Um. I think of
Speaker 1: Buffalo like cold Weather team, gonna load up and stop
Speaker 1: the run. Like I don't. They're not that impressive against
Speaker 1: the run. They are thirteenth, one oh five. It seems
Speaker 1: like they you can get them out of position. Misdirection
Speaker 1: seems to work on them. Philip Lindsay and the other guy, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you Freeman. They both had decent success kind of
Speaker 1: again leading those guys out of the way. You might
Speaker 1: remember Tremaine Edmonds. He was their first round pick out
Speaker 1: of Virginia Tech. Very big, very scary looking, but I
Speaker 1: seemed like I noticed him like being in the wrong
Speaker 1: gaps and taking the wrong angles a lot. So I
Speaker 1: don't think the second level, as far as run defense,
Speaker 1: is that impressive, which they're good at getting after the quarterback,
Speaker 1: but I think maybe there's so much focus on getting
Speaker 1: up the field that they lose gap discipline, and I
Speaker 1: think that's why they're probably leading the league in tackles
Speaker 1: for losses. They'll get you if they can penetrate, but
Speaker 1: they're also susceptible if they don't get there, So I
Speaker 1: think there's success to be had on the ground. I
Speaker 1: think they're secondary's pretty stingy, kind of similar to the Pats. Honestly,
Speaker 1: of course, you have the benefit of not having to
Speaker 1: play indoors. Is this one of those kind of secondaries
Speaker 1: or defenses as a whole. That you think even if
Speaker 1: they have a good day or successful day in trying
Speaker 1: to limit Amari Cooper, that it will affect the other
Speaker 1: receivers as well. And maybe you can't gallow can't have
Speaker 1: a chance to get off, or Cop can't have a
Speaker 1: chance to get off. They have been flagged. I saw
Speaker 1: a status for a past interference um quite a bit,
Speaker 1: and I think Jason has called the league and told
Speaker 1: them to watch out for past interference. Yeah, could do that?
Speaker 1: Make your mind. This is a funny. This is a
Speaker 1: funny aside that I thought about when everybody was freaking
Speaker 1: out about Belichick, you know, telling them to emphasize trips,
Speaker 1: which is Garrett's told us before. He's like, yeah, sometimes
Speaker 1: you do that. You say, hey, you know this guy
Speaker 1: likes to he gets shovey at the top of the routes.
Speaker 1: Watch out for that. But he said a lot of times,
Speaker 1: what will happen is it will work against you because
Speaker 1: now the refs have this heightened awareness and they're like
Speaker 1: looking for everything, and all of a sudden, your guys
Speaker 1: are getting flagged for the penalties you were telling them
Speaker 1: to watch out for from the other guys to see
Speaker 1: the Patriots getting clod It worked out for the Pats.
Speaker 1: But mate, and that's why you inform your guys from
Speaker 1: the team. Hey, guys, we're letting the league know about this,
Speaker 1: so you better clean up your game and make mistakes.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm not saying that's a good idea. That's
Speaker 1: head coach of the Dallas I would love back from JGG.
Speaker 1: That would be so Prescott Betot would be fun. Again.
Speaker 1: They you wouldn't want to hear me, would trust me.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to hear every bit of that. They
Speaker 1: have a really good slot corner by the name of
Speaker 1: Tron Johnson. I don't I mean that. That's harsh to say.
Speaker 1: Nobody on their secondaries as good as Trey White, but
Speaker 1: I do think I mean they have the tools to
Speaker 1: limit the passing game. Of course, they were playing Brandon
Speaker 1: Allen last week, a little bit of a difference between
Speaker 1: him and Dak Prescott, and they haven't really have they
Speaker 1: played a really a quarterback offense. What's the best one
Speaker 1: other than the Patriots Brady. But they did a great
Speaker 1: job against the Patriots. I think they lost that game.
Speaker 1: The Eagles obviously put up points against him, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Eagles hammered them. Yeah, just I mean it's one
Speaker 1: of the those things were like, you lose the plot,
Speaker 1: you're playing from behind. Yeah. So, you know, we were
Speaker 1: looking at stats on the Bill's offense. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you mentioned it last week but yesterday, but Josh
Speaker 1: Allen has more rushing touchdowns than Lamar Jackson. I did
Speaker 1: mention that he's got a lot. He's got seven, got seven,
Speaker 1: Lamar six. Now, obviously Lamar's a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: rushing yards. Yeah, but he's third in the NFL and
Speaker 1: rushing yards behind uh Lamar and Kyler Murray. You know,
Speaker 1: so he's I mean, he's pretty good. But that's also
Speaker 1: what and I think it was using that has been
Speaker 1: saying this that that's the part in the red zone
Speaker 1: if you could use the dack more, not only it
Speaker 1: is not only a good thing for him, but it
Speaker 1: also helps the offense from the standpoint that the it
Speaker 1: creates one more wrinkle that the defense has to pay
Speaker 1: attention to that hopefully opens up other things. And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys just don't They're not consistently ready to use that.
Speaker 1: It seemed like at one point, and maybe this was
Speaker 1: even last year, they were doing it a little bit
Speaker 1: more like this year. I can't think of a lot
Speaker 1: of situations at all in the red zone where they're
Speaker 1: allowing Dak or they're calling place for Dak to use
Speaker 1: his legs. I mean, and I said yesterday, like Josh
Speaker 1: Allen is not noticeably more athletic than Dak and just yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that needs to be part of his repertoire.
Speaker 1: And I mean you don't. He doesn't need to average
Speaker 1: sixty yards a game like Josh Allen does. I think
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is because Josh Allen
Speaker 1: is not there as a passer. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of I mean, they do design runs, but a lot
Speaker 1: of that is him pulling it down when he doesn't
Speaker 1: see it and scrambling. Yeah. So I like Dak hanging
Speaker 1: back in the pocket and making plays with his arm,
Speaker 1: but he's athletic enough that that should be something he
Speaker 1: does on a weekly basis. All Right, we'll take our
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Speaker 1: final segment of the Break Blacknest WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Start, Nickols, you got for us, I've got Christmas
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Speaker 1: You can call us eighty eight eight five five two
Speaker 1: two nine seven. We got a call from Rob in Vegas. Rob.
Speaker 1: What up? Rob? Hey, guys, have a happy Thanksgiving. First
Speaker 1: of all, thanks you too. You know, Jerry's age makes
Speaker 1: them desperate, and when Jerry's desperate, he makes great coaching decisions.
Speaker 1: He buys their team for one hundred and forty million.
Speaker 1: High is a national champ. Jimmy Johnson Unfortunately, let's him
Speaker 1: go Hi is another National champ switcher. To make up
Speaker 1: for that, Danny goes off the rail and then he
Speaker 1: high is Bill Parcels because he needs a new stadium built.
Speaker 1: Now I agree with Nick. If they lose Thursday, I
Speaker 1: definitely see if scenario where they fire Garrett. They promote
Speaker 1: Christopher Shark because not to give him a four game
Speaker 1: head start to evaluate um. Maybe he's the future coach.
Speaker 1: Who knows? But I and I and I disagree with Derek.
Speaker 1: I think if when you fire somebody, Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: If you fire you Dave right now, please don't Nick.
Speaker 1: Nick is gonna be like, oh wow, I gotta be
Speaker 1: on my toes. It just sharpens everybody up happy with that.
Speaker 1: It may not last a long time, but look what
Speaker 1: happened when Garrett took over that one season. I think
Speaker 1: they went five and two. It just shot. It makes
Speaker 1: everybody on their toes, and I think that that's what
Speaker 1: Jerry's trying to do. He only got four five games.
Speaker 1: He says, if whatever I gotta take to give you
Speaker 1: five games, if that gets me four and one, he
Speaker 1: can't be on a road to the player. I think
Speaker 1: he's willing to do whatever it takes. So I would
Speaker 1: I want to be shocked if he's done. If they
Speaker 1: lose every day, which I hope you have. But talk
Speaker 1: about the ladistics though of when you bring in a
Speaker 1: new head coach, then is can you really affect a
Speaker 1: lot of change? Because I'm saying, if you're, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're, if you're promoting somebody, can you effect a
Speaker 1: lot of change in a short period of time like that? Yes,
Speaker 1: we did a documentary on it. Did a documentary on
Speaker 1: Garrett changing everything in four days. Yes, what I mean
Speaker 1: Christ Shade, who was totally different than Jason Garrett. I
Speaker 1: mean that's night and day. So that espessionally, I mean
Speaker 1: if you promoted uh, the offensive coordinated note, he's very
Speaker 1: similar to guys you promote Chris ra Shade. That voice
Speaker 1: is going to be so different than Garretts. I think
Speaker 1: it would shake them up immediately. But but it's the
Speaker 1: problem with this team that they're not properly motivated. Because
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then yeah, you're right. You can't
Speaker 1: affect change because you just change the voice and the message.
Speaker 1: Maybe that motivates the different way. I don't hear anybody
Speaker 1: saying this team isn't properly motivated. I hear people saying
Speaker 1: it's not being properly coached. That those are two different things.
Speaker 1: I think it's both. But I say I think what
Speaker 1: it is is Jason Garrett was a substitute teacher all
Speaker 1: year when you didn't give him the contract. These players
Speaker 1: subconsciously saying, listen, I'm gonna be here longer than you are.
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I agree with that, man, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think his voice was lost. And
Speaker 1: let's face it, We've been talking about this for years.
Speaker 1: I've been calling in him. We always said the same
Speaker 1: thing about him. He's a terrible game day coach and
Speaker 1: he's never gotten any better. All right, thanks what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's and listen, you get it like you get in,
Speaker 1: you get in trouble with fans, like I've been bickering
Speaker 1: with fans on Twitter for the last two days. Is
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm not trying to convince you that you
Speaker 1: should like Jason Garrett, right, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's true that he's lost. You know that the
Speaker 1: players don't listen to what he has to say, or
Speaker 1: they've or they've tuned him out. Although I will say,
Speaker 1: we keep talking about the slow starts, like that's the
Speaker 1: one area I mean, I mean, it's it's harsh to say,
Speaker 1: like are they motivated? But they seem to come out
Speaker 1: flat often than not in motivation. Seems like it's part
Speaker 1: of that gave you the wrong scenario when I was
Speaker 1: stuck talking earlier about the last four games. You don't
Speaker 1: fire Jason Garrett. He goes three and one, he wins
Speaker 1: the last two, and he beats you know one of
Speaker 1: the Bears and three and one, they're nine and seven,
Speaker 1: they make it to the playoffs, they lose. He's definitely
Speaker 1: out nine and seven, six and six, you fire him,
Speaker 1: Chris Rashard comes over, he goes three and one down
Speaker 1: the stretch, and they win the division and go to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That right, there is a totally different nine
Speaker 1: and seven. He might even get the job. That's really
Speaker 1: I said eight and eight, that's not any But how
Speaker 1: is that because I don't know that. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Conventional wisdom doesn't say that Jason can't get this team
Speaker 1: to nine and seven. Yeah, but they don't want Jason's
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Nobody wants that anymore. Nobody wants Jason's
Speaker 1: nine and seven because three other than the guy that
Speaker 1: you said earlier, who has a vested interest in him
Speaker 1: doing well, he wants his nine and seven. Nah, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna hire at nine and seven and missing the playoffs,
Speaker 1: losing in the first round of the playoffs at home. No,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fired. But three and one you look
Speaker 1: at it different. You're like, wait a second, if you
Speaker 1: give him, if you give him a whole season, three
Speaker 1: and one's twelve and four, right, if you know him,
Speaker 1: if you know, if you know that it's going to
Speaker 1: play out like that, great. The problem is and that's
Speaker 1: the reason why I think it doesn't matter about what
Speaker 1: happens Thursday, because right now you're still leading the division.
Speaker 1: That's why there's no here, there's no reason why they
Speaker 1: would make a change right now. It's because they're still
Speaker 1: leading the divisions. Take me there. You talk about this
Speaker 1: talented team, and I know that's you've said differently. Nick,
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, are they really that talented? But we
Speaker 1: talked about it during training camp how much talent there
Speaker 1: is on this team as far as the players. You
Speaker 1: want to make sure because next year's roster is gonna
Speaker 1: be different than this year, so you want to make sure.
Speaker 1: And I think that's how Jerry season and where all
Speaker 1: the frustration comes from, is a wasted ear with this
Speaker 1: group of talented players that you're not going to be
Speaker 1: able to replicate next year. So what do you do
Speaker 1: with that? Do you go all out and stick with
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and what he's able to do? And like
Speaker 1: yesterday I was thinking, I was looking at the schedule
Speaker 1: and realize, damn, we have five games left on the schedule,
Speaker 1: and still we're trying to like figure this team out.
Speaker 1: We're still trying to find out what the Cowboys are about.
Speaker 1: And it's like, what else do you need to find
Speaker 1: that out? This? Okay, So here's my question in what
Speaker 1: do you guys think is the biggest problem that would
Speaker 1: cause Jason Garrett to lose his job? And I'm talking
Speaker 1: about his coaching acumen. What do you think is the
Speaker 1: biggest issue He's not winning enough games? Wow? I can
Speaker 1: come up with eight differently. Is it scheme, is it
Speaker 1: game day decisions? What is it that you think is
Speaker 1: the biggest problem for him as a coach that would
Speaker 1: end up making him lose his job? I think they
Speaker 1: don't win in the fourth quarter? Okay, they don't. This
Speaker 1: team has not been a clutch team. So that's my question.
Speaker 1: So you're going to then say, Okay, after this week,
Speaker 1: let's say they lose, you get rid of him. You're
Speaker 1: gonna make hold on. Okay, you're gonna make the guy
Speaker 1: that right now runs the secondary your head coach. How
Speaker 1: much is he going to affect a difference in the
Speaker 1: things that ultimately would affect him losing in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: Whether that is offensively, they're not getting off to a
Speaker 1: fast start. They're not being able from a scheme standpoint,
Speaker 1: they're not being able to get a Mari open. Like
Speaker 1: whatever the things already you say, Hey, Jason needs to
Speaker 1: do a better job at coaching. What makes you think
Speaker 1: a defensive minded guy? Because I think right now we're
Speaker 1: all looking at this offensive saying there are problems here.
Speaker 1: What's gonna What makes you think that that's going to
Speaker 1: change anything to where you're going to get a different
Speaker 1: result any short period of time. It's one thing if
Speaker 1: he has a whole off sense and to rethink how
Speaker 1: he does things, to put different guys in place, tell
Speaker 1: them how he wants to change philosophically what he's doing.
Speaker 1: You're talking about doing that on the fly. With four
Speaker 1: games left, he's being ready for this. Chris roy Shard
Speaker 1: seems the moment he got here, I talked to him
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, what's yours here? He's been ready
Speaker 1: for a head coach. How does he enact that stuff
Speaker 1: in with four games left? He says, we haven't been
Speaker 1: down here all day and down in the red zone.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go fourth, fourth down. It's fourth and seven.
Speaker 1: It's not manageable, but we're gonna have to go for it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go for it. He's a more aggressive, He's
Speaker 1: an aggressive His approach is more aggressive, and that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that just because and that's one thing I don't like.
Speaker 1: He's the best option I think, but just because he's
Speaker 1: the loudest, everyone says, ohoh man, that guy's motivated. Okay.
Speaker 1: I said this the other day, Tom Cable from the Raiders,
Speaker 1: Mike Tice from the Vikings. They seemed pretty intense too.
Speaker 1: Were they good coaches? I mean, just because you bark
Speaker 1: a lot doesn't necessarily mean you're a good coach, And
Speaker 1: just because you don't doesn't mean that you're not. Same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just and I do think he would get the opportunity.
Speaker 1: But I think to answer your question as an aggressive,
Speaker 1: like just an aggressive style that we think that we from.
Speaker 1: Are you sure though, that too he is? Because not sure?
Speaker 1: What you know is his personalities that we didn't call him. Also,
Speaker 1: Morrow's food will be good. That's the only thing that
Speaker 1: I know right now. Like I just I don't really
Speaker 1: think that matters. Like Nick Nick made a documentary about
Speaker 1: Garrett turning a lifeless one and seveneam and getting them
Speaker 1: to a respectable finish like and he was ready to
Speaker 1: like he was ready if if Jerry Jones, if Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones is ready to pull the trigger. And for the record,
Speaker 1: I don't think he will be win or lose tomorrow,
Speaker 1: but if he was, all that matters is that it's
Speaker 1: not the guy that you lost faith in. I don't
Speaker 1: think it really matters like, well, what are you going
Speaker 1: to do differently? It's just you're not what I have
Speaker 1: decided isn't working anymore. I think it's that simple, honestly,
Speaker 1: I get it. And and then to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I think if this was the middle of the season,
Speaker 1: I would be more inclined to believe what you guys believe.
Speaker 1: I think right now, with where you are in the
Speaker 1: season and where you are in the division, I just
Speaker 1: don't foresee that happening. Let me let me be clear. Basically,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say this to y'all. Tomorrow's games really
Speaker 1: not that important. It's an AFC game. No matter what happens,
Speaker 1: the Eagles can't catch them, and then they've got four
Speaker 1: games against the NFC who do it or don't do
Speaker 1: it right? So I really I don't think that it
Speaker 1: matters in the grand scheme of like, do you need
Speaker 1: to fire the guy? Having said that, and I knew
Speaker 1: that was coming, right, y'all, y'all agree or disagree, Like,
Speaker 1: what I have learned through eleven weeks this season is that,
Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt, anything short of like
Speaker 1: a sizeable playoff run means a change in tenure. That's
Speaker 1: my belief. That is my belief. And I didn't always
Speaker 1: know that because in September I was like, well, if
Speaker 1: they go twelve and four and lose before the NFC
Speaker 1: title game, is he really gonna make a change. That's
Speaker 1: what your's comments told me. Right, that's confirmed at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here saying the season has been a disappointment
Speaker 1: up to this point. Barring vastly exceeding expectations from here
Speaker 1: on out, I don't think it'll be good enough, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I think. All Right, So let's pick the
Speaker 1: game for tomorrow. Let's go around the table, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna start with you who wins the game. I honestly,
Speaker 1: I still see it could go either way. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys know how to pick it up on games
Speaker 1: like these so I could see them finally clicking again
Speaker 1: and making it look like they're good. But then at
Speaker 1: the same time I can see them just same crap,
Speaker 1: losing the game the same way they've been losing all
Speaker 1: these other games. So I don't know. Shoot whatever, they
Speaker 1: got me, They got me. You just voiced every Cowboys
Speaker 1: fan in the world got me. Here we go again,
Speaker 1: all right, Dave, this is the Jason Garrett Special. Like
Speaker 1: everything we just said. What do I always call him?
Speaker 1: He's Michael Myers. We just had a whole show. We
Speaker 1: just had a whole show talking about the end of
Speaker 1: the Jason Garrett era. The Bills are better than a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to give them credit for. This
Speaker 1: won't be an easy game, but contrary to what some
Speaker 1: people think, like Rob in Vegas, the team has not
Speaker 1: tuned him out. Quit on him. Whatever you want to say.
Speaker 1: They will play hard. It will be a close game,
Speaker 1: but they will win. You know, twenty. It'll be a
Speaker 1: weird score too, It'll be like twenty six to twenty,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys will They'll pull out a win. It
Speaker 1: sounds like an overtime touchdown something, or maybe just a
Speaker 1: dramatic like two field goals because they can't score in
Speaker 1: the red zone and the Bills are driving and it's
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I don't know. Something of a great Wednesday,
Speaker 1: thank you. Do you see anybody jumping in the red kettle? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some red kettle jumping. Yeah, yeah it'll
Speaker 1: be It'll be Zeke probably he'll throw somebody in there. Um,
Speaker 1: this is I agree. This is a Jason special. This
Speaker 1: is one of those games. I've seen it along and
Speaker 1: before he was the coach. It's just when when it
Speaker 1: just seems like that, it's it's about to be explosion here,
Speaker 1: something weird happens. So I'm gonna say something weird happens
Speaker 1: in this game. The Cowboys win thirty one to seven. WHOA,
Speaker 1: that's funny. That's really funny. I actually I was actually
Speaker 1: going the same way with this because I think I
Speaker 1: think people underestimate to on a short week how hard
Speaker 1: it is to have to travel on the road, Like,
Speaker 1: not only are they dealing with what the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: where you said earlier, you start feeling right about Thursday,
Speaker 1: but you only really get one day of practice because
Speaker 1: you're right now the Bills are traveling like the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They have a little practice today, They'll have some other
Speaker 1: things they can do. They don't have to travel the
Speaker 1: Bills are traveling today. That is a lot to compress
Speaker 1: into that shorter period. And I do believe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a built in advantage because they do this every
Speaker 1: single year on this weekend, on this week, on this holiday.
Speaker 1: They know what Thanksgiving looks like on a short week
Speaker 1: in Dallas, and I think that matters. Not only that,
Speaker 1: I also think I look at what the build, what
Speaker 1: happened to the Bills when they played at the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: and I believe this offense. I believe this offense will
Speaker 1: put up points because that's the one thing. There's been
Speaker 1: only a few games this year with the offense didn't
Speaker 1: score and score a lot. I think they'll score a
Speaker 1: lot this game. I think it ends up being thirty
Speaker 1: one ten Cowboys. I'm gonna change mind. I want to
Speaker 1: go thirty one to thirteen. I'm gonna give them a
Speaker 1: couple more. But all I'm saying, well, I have to
Speaker 1: write it in the gut feeling, and I don't want
Speaker 1: it to be I don't want it to be law.
Speaker 1: You changed it up. I have to actually put it
Speaker 1: on paper. You know, I've already one thirteen. I picked
Speaker 1: him to win, but I've seen the Cowboys take some
Speaker 1: massive l's on Thanksgiving. Fourteen Eagles happen Garrett seventeen Chers Thanksgiving. Really,
Speaker 1: I would he guess his best win record wise? What
Speaker 1: his best win is against the sixty three and one
Speaker 1: Redskins team in twenty sixteen. Yeah, they won by Kat
Speaker 1: and the three and seven Dolphins. Alright, Kate and the
Speaker 1: six and four Red down. Yeah, geez, y'all give you
Speaker 1: kat In a hard time because that's Dave's job. Because
Speaker 1: we've got hanging with the boys over here like cutting
Speaker 1: us out, ready to come on. So hey, worried about them?
Speaker 1: What they gonna say to me? I hear that I was.
Speaker 1: I was put on this earth to give kate In
Speaker 1: a hard time. I know you are all right, man.
Speaker 1: I just appreciate you join us. We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Then we'll be back on Monday to break it all
Speaker 1: down for you. Till then, for Nick, even Dave him
Speaker 1: and regard Sia. We want you guys to have a
Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving. Talk to you later. This has been the
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