1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: principalities and darkness and spirits. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: That there's a spiritual war here. People say constantly we're 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: at war, and we're at war between good and evil. Well, 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: what exactly is spiritual warfare? Today? On the David Brutherford Show, 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: What's Up, Team, here's the deal, man, I just before 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: I get into this, because this is going to be 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: one of the heaviest probably shows I've done in a 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: long long time. Before I get into that, I just 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: want to just bring your attention to the fact that 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: we have some wonderful curriculum at David Rutherford dot com 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: in the Frog Logic Institute, where I teach people how 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: to embrace fear, how to forge their self confidence, and 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: how to live a team life. And again, this is 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: information that I have been working on for the past 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: thirty years, really trying to figure out what components of 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: the human condition enable us as individuals or as teams 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: to succeed, or what drives failure. So I promise you, 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: if you take this, you'll enjoy it. Your kids will 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: enjoy it, You'll enjoy it. In particular, in in the 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: so called spiritual war that we're engaged in right now. 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: I truly believe that this is information that will help 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: you wage that war. Also, if you're interested, sign up 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: for my book which is going to be released over 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: the holidays. It's called The Poet Warrior, where I really 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: kind of dig into this kind of concept that I'm 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: going to share about today, about a young man's trials 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: and tribulations, trying to fin answers for what it really means, 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: what's the meaning of life and what's the meaning of death. 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: And also, we really would love it if you would, 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: you know, like subscribe and more leave comments, but more 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: importantly share. If this episode hits you, and it hits 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: you heavily share it with somebody that you think needs 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: to hear it. 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Please, 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: if you think this episode had any any modicum of 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: positivity or motivation in it that you think can help somebody. 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Just share it, Just just press press copy link and 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: send it to somebody that you care about, because that's 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: what really Jordan and I want. All right. So for 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: the week, it's been a pretty remarkable week. I mean, 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: we've seen reactions, uh that are are are dramatic. We've 47 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: seen reactions, We've seen people wanting to move on already. 48 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: But the the you know, the real interesting aspect of 49 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: this whole thing is that I continue to kind of 50 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: you know, see this idea that there's a war taking 51 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: place right now, right, and and some of those people 52 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: are saying, all right, hey, let's not stoop to their level. 53 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: Let's not let's not move to a place where violence 54 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: is acceptable or or or that we are going to 55 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: be dragged down into the sewers of morality and fight 56 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: fire with fire, right Uh. And then we've all seen 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: another couple posts from you know, people from my world saying, 58 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: you know what, here's the deal. You want to end 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: this right now, you know, just let the g WAT 60 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: guys give them a month to go after and prose 61 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: prosecute certain targets with a full pardon after and we'll 62 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: be over and through this whole thing. Right, We've seen 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: other more uh metaphysical or theological arguments like let's not 64 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: lower our faith to that level, because that's that's where 65 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: they want to take us, right, they want to break 66 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: us down from uh staying on the high ground of 67 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: our morality of our faith, you know. And then it's 68 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 2: there are other people you know that I am paying 69 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: attention to who actively are talking about Christendom and and 70 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: how Christian Christendom was the very thing that allowed Western 71 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: civilization to emerge. Right. It was Christendom right with the 72 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: reconquista of the Spaniards and the Iberian Peninsula fighting back, 73 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: the Crew and the Crew, the Intifada and the Muslim 74 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: Crusades and the Seven Hundreds all the way, you know, 75 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: through modern times and what we're seeing on the the 76 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: streets of of London earlier in the weekend, where you know, 77 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: roughly a million people were saying, all right, unite the kingdom, right, 78 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: and this is a kingdom that was built upon those 79 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: Western ideas of christiandom right, you know, And I think 80 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: you know what, ultimately, what I keep hearing things over 81 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: and over again, and whether I'm seeing it on uh, 82 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: you know, on on uh one side versus the other 83 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: that there's a war going on, right. I think one 84 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: side frames it as, uh, it's a war against against nature. 85 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: It's a war against the oppressed. It's a war against 86 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: the marginalized. It's a war against those that have forever 87 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: been uh disillusioned or disrespected. Uh, you know. And then 88 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: I see the other side of it is like, this 89 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: is a uh, this is a war against good and evil? 90 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Right uh? And then or or framed out in this capacity, 91 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: we're in the midst of a spiritual war. Now that's 92 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: heavy stuff right there. When you begin to start to 93 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: imagine what a spiritual war might look like, I think, 94 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of different times throughout history 95 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: where this term has been leveraged as a rallying cry, 96 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: if you will to wake up and face the presence 97 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: of evil, if you will, Now, what is that is? 98 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Like I said, is it a battle between good and right? 99 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: And left? Is it a battle between good and evil? 100 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 2: And is it a battle between God and Satan? Right? 101 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: And those are the questions that I think are the 102 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: most natural when you begin to reference this as a 103 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: spiritual war, as so many people are wanting to do 104 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: right now, you know, And the hard thing is to 105 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: distill this down and decide something that's manageable, in particular 106 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: for those of you who aren't how shall we say, 107 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: true believers, if you will, right, Maybe that's even a 108 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: little bit harsh, Right, Maybe it's like you're not utterly 109 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: convinced as to what the Gospels or the Old Testament 110 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: talk about in terms of this endless battle between right 111 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: and wrong, between God and the fallen angels. If you will, right, 112 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: this demonic nature of society that has once again reared 113 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: its ugly head, because that's that's the that's the reality. 114 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: This is nothing that's new. Right. You can date it 115 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: as far back as the oldest civilizations that we have 116 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: that felt like they were in a spiritual war, as 117 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: far back as ancient Assyrians. Right. You go through modern 118 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: times and you know, you've got the twentieth century and 119 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 2: you had you know, you had communism versus that which 120 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: was not communism, And a lot of people want to 121 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: automatically aggregate it towards capitalism, but I think it was 122 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: much deeper. It was against organized religion itself, right, you know, 123 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: And so I think what it is is it's those 124 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: The war is against those who have a strong moral 125 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: interpretation or courageousness, right, those willing to stand up for 126 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: that grander sense of morality, right, versus those who want 127 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: to profess a level of moral relativism. You know, in 128 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: my last podcast, the frog Logic Podcast, I did a 129 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: show about moral relativism. It's an interesting go check it out. 130 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: Just look up the frog Logic podcast. Moral relativism, you know, 131 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: and in moral relativism is the idea that ethical principles 132 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: aren't fixed or universally true, but depend on individual cultures, societies, 133 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: or personal belief. It suggests right and wrong con vary 134 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: depending on the context. Now, you know, this is a 135 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: powerful thing to even begin to contemplate, because I think 136 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: so many people and why so many people are struggling 137 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: right now is there They're they're going, wait a minute, 138 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: we just witnessed targeted, a targeted assassination against Yeah. Certainly, 139 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: Charlie was a political operative, as JD Vance called him, uh, 140 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: you know, one of the most prestigious or adapt or 141 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: adroit political operators operator operators. Uh. When he hosted his 142 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: The Charlie Kirk Show from his office, which I thought 143 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: was really interesting and phenomenal to see that level of support. 144 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: You know, but what you have is you also have 145 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: a man that believed fully was invested in his faith 146 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: in Jesus Christ. And you know, the the the moral 147 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: structure that he has extrapolated from his belief, his true 148 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: belief that Christ was the Messiah and that he died 149 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: for our sins and was resurrected and ascended to heaven 150 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: at the right hand of God, the Almighty Right. And 151 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: so through that creates this sense of morality within the 152 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: Word of Christ. 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Well, you know, when I again just to 190 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: give a deeper frame or reference for the term moral relativism. 191 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: You know, there's no one singular person that invented this 192 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: that didn't have a specific philosopher or theologian or metaphysics 193 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: or you know, existentialists that had it. But it's been 194 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: a concept that's been percolating for thousands of years. You know. 195 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: One of the great places that I when I just 196 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: looked it up today, they mentioned groc mentioned a Greek 197 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: philosopher Protegorus around four ninety BC, and he famously said 198 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: this man is the measure of all things, which hints 199 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: at the concept, right, and that essentially is saying that you, 200 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: as the individual, you build your own framework of sovereignty. Right, 201 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: what are you sovereign to? You know, is it an 202 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: ideological environment, is it a political environment, is it theological environment, 203 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: or is it just your own interpretation of existence yourself? 204 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: You know, now beyond that, moral relativism is really kind 205 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: of emerged within the philosophical ideas of postmodernism. And you've 206 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: got great postmodernists like fu Cout, existentialists like John Paul Sart, 207 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: you know, Franz Boas, you know, all highlighting the diverse 208 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: nature of moral codes which exist across societies themselves. Now 209 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: we all feel this absolutely, especially as within our American culture, right, 210 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: and there's been a history of divisions within our own 211 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: American culture. But you know, if you're an American, you 212 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: travel overseas, which I have, you know, and I'm not, 213 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: you know, and to the most cordial places culturally for Americans. 214 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: But you know, when I was in Afghanistan multiple times 215 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: over a ten year period, and in Pakistan and some 216 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: other Muslim countries, it was very distinct. But I even 217 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: saw multi you know, different cultural ideas within you know, 218 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: my time in Azerbaijan, my time in Afghanistan, in different 219 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: regions in Afghanistan, my time in Pakistan, my time in 220 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: Kuwait or Bahrain. Right, you see, there are even differences 221 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: within Muslim in Islam itself, and there are differences in Judaism, 222 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: there are differences in Christianity. I mean, hew, look at 223 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: the division between the Catholic and Protestant churches back in 224 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: the day, right, I mean the Thirty Years War. Right, 225 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: these are conflicts that have been taking place, and you 226 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: can say this wherever you go. We're all around the world, 227 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: you know. But I think these postmodernistic ideas about more relativism, 228 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, it's it it begins to infect the masses. 229 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: In particular, if you're able to generate a narrative around 230 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: that that that those who believe they're on this moral 231 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: high ground or this this this biblical high ground, if 232 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: you will, that somehow, you know, there their interpretation of 233 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: it is is oppressive to you. And I think you know, 234 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: we've seen that even take place in our background as well, too, Right, 235 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: We've seen that in the Civil War, right that both sides, 236 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: whether you were from the South or from the North, 237 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: were arguing that we were in a spiritual war, right, right. 238 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: And you had people in the South that said, hey, 239 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: you're taking slavery, which back then was probably one of 240 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: the most common practices historically around the world, right, you know, 241 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: was like, hey, this is the way things are, and 242 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: you're taking away our core beliefs, our morality. If you will, 243 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of it was based on a higher 244 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: moral structure of Christian beliefs. And then on the other 245 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: side you have the abolitionists, and you had you know, 246 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: the progressive modern ideologies of the North and the industrialists saying, no, 247 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: you know, all men are created equal and that's God's rights. 248 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: Those are the inalienable rights that every man has. But 249 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: they both believed they were in this moral high ground. 250 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: They were both believed that they were in the spiritual warfare. 251 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: And that's where I think things really begin to get 252 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: confusing for so many people. That shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk, 253 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: he felt like he was in the moral high ground. 254 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: He felt like what he was doing was was acting 255 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: under his cause. Right. I think you also feel like 256 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: the gentleman who stabbed that poor Ukrainian girl, right, he 257 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: obviously is like, I am not beholden to any moral structure, right, 258 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: because we don't know what he said other than the 259 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: comments before and I got that white girl, right, that's 260 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: all we know. But we don't know what his philosophical 261 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: ideas other than the fact that it was acceptable to 262 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: murder somebody because he didn't like them, or the color 263 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: of their skin. We don't know, right, But what my 264 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: point of all that is to say is for those 265 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: of you out there that are trying to figure out 266 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: what this spiritual war is looking like, you got to 267 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: recognize that the people that are on both sides, all sides, 268 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: however many sides there are, they believe their stance is 269 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: the appropriate stance, is the right stance. And so what 270 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: begins to happen, Well, all you got to do is 271 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: look throughout history when societies that are beginning to pull 272 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: at the center of what that moral structure looks like, 273 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: things begin to devolve pretty rapidly, right. And you can 274 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: see this whether the Roman Empire towards the end, you 275 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: can see it in the twentieth century, right, you can 276 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: see it in all these different places. And what begins 277 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: to happen is is those that have the high ground, 278 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: that understand the nature of evil and understand what what 279 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: society or not society that's it's deeper than that maybe civilization. 280 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't even think it's deeper than civilization itself. 281 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: Right there, these are the tribal iterable behavioral activities that 282 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: have kept certain groups a lot I have through the centuries, 283 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: right through through the millennium. Right, Why do certain tribes 284 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: last and other tribes don't, well, because those tribes are 285 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: willing to fight this spiritual war. You know. One of 286 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: the things as I was contemplating, you know this, this 287 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: this show, you know I I one of the things 288 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: that really provoked it was there was a presentation that 289 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk did with Tucker Carlson a while back, and 290 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: where he talked specifically about it, and and and Jeordie, 291 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: why don't you why don't you play that whole thing? Right? 292 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: The clip I sent you right now? Sure eighth is. 293 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: The most important thing because for those of us that 294 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: are Christians, it doesn't drive you crazy. 295 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: You actually see what's going on, which is. 296 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: That we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but 297 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: against principalities and darkness and spirits, that there is a 298 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: spiritual war here. And you're right, Tucker, I find people 299 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: in this space that are not anchored to faith, anchored 300 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: to Jesus. They do lose their mind because there is 301 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: no rational or reasonable explanation for what the country is 302 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: doing to itself or what we are experiencing. But if 303 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: you then see and you know that there is a God, 304 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: and we are not him. That there is an entire 305 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: dimension of angels and demons and spirits that are constantly 306 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: struggling struggling around us, and that there is a supernatural 307 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: dimension as you mentioned, all of a sudden, that doesn't 308 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: make sense. That it does not make any rational sense 309 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: to shut down your schools so you could sacrifice the 310 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: kids so the elderly can live. 311 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: That makes no sense whatsoever. 312 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: It makes no sense whatsoever to keep your marri want 313 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: of dispensaries open and your alcohol shops open. But the 314 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: church non essential. Only a demonic enterprise would do such 315 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: a thing. Only a demonic enterprise would say that Easter 316 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: and Pentecost are non essential. But race, rioting and burning 317 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: down a Wendy's is a central activity. And Tucker, you 318 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: talk about this a lot. For those of us that 319 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: know the truth, we know that our God is a 320 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: god of order and distinction. 321 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: What is the first thing. 322 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: That God did in the Hebrew scripture, as it says 323 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: well and also our scripture in the original Genesis bet 324 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: as sheets, which is in the beginning, God created the 325 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: heavens and the earth, and then he separated and he 326 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: made sense. He made order out of chaos. Our God 327 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: is a god of order, and order only comes with distinctions, 328 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: and distinctions are necessary. Think about all the distinctions that 329 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: God set up in the first six books of Genesis 330 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: that are currently under attack. The distinction between male and female, 331 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: distinction between man and nature, the distinction between the holy 332 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: and the profane, the distinction between good and evil, the 333 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: distinction between infant and adults. These distinctions have always been 334 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: what Western civilization were built upon. But it is Satan's 335 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: goal to blur and eventually destroy those distinctions because those 336 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: distinctions of which we get order, and you do not 337 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: have that order, then you have the closest thing to 338 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: satanic chaos here. 339 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: All right, So you watch that and he breaks it 340 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: down in this really unique way right by these with 341 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: this idea of the war of principalities, darkness and spirits. Now, 342 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: I know a lot of times people will see people 343 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: talk about demons and angels in that capacity and they'll 344 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: be like, hey, man, you just lost me there. Like, 345 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: I get there's an attack on morality. I get that, 346 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: I feel that. I mean, I'm appalled at what I'm seeing, 347 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: But why are you able to describe it like that? 348 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: And you know you know. I think when you begin 349 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: to think about what principalities mean, right, Principalities are often 350 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: understood in theology as a high ranking spiritual beings or powers, 351 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 2: usually fallen angels or demonic forces that rule over specific 352 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: regions or areas of influence Ephesian six, verse twelve, and 353 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: the Bible talks about wrestling not just with flesh and blood, 354 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: but with principalities, powers and rulers and darkness. Now, theologians 355 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: like Thomas Aquinas saw them as part of a hierarchy 356 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: of angels, but when fallen, they opposed God's order, influencing 357 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: human affairs and requiring spiritual resistance through prayer and faith. 358 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: That's the core of it from a theological standpoint. So 359 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: when you listen to Charlie talk about this and what 360 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: we're witnessing, and you heard them, you talk about how 361 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: it makes no sense right to shut the schools down 362 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: to impede or destroy young children, to protect the elder 363 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: a small portion of the elderly right, and that it 364 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: made no sense to keep those dispensaries and liquor stores 365 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: open and close the churches unless there was an all 366 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: out assault on the places that we knew morality kept 367 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: in check. It makes no sense to keep families apart 368 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: and death but allow the mobs to destroy the community 369 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: by professing some ridiculous fact that certain ethnic minorities are 370 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: under assault. Right, And all you got to do is 371 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: look at you know, those on the street interviews of 372 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: people going up in these rallies and saying, you know 373 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: who knew the FBI crime statistics and said, hey, do 374 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: you do you know how many in his you know, 375 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: unarmed black men were killed by police officers in twenty nineteen, 376 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: and they're like ten thousand, five thousand, seven thousand. The 377 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: reality it was twenty seven. I think it was twenty 378 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: seven people. I think that pretty sure somewhere around there. 379 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: But it was such a diminimus number. And it's like 380 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: three point five million contacts with officers and people in 381 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: the country every year, some staggering I might even actually, Jory, 382 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: look at how many how many contacts with law enforcement 383 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: and people take place annually in the United States? You know, 384 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: but you see what people What happens is there's a 385 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: distortion of of I don't know, the truth, statistics whatever, 386 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: and what ends up, I mean as people start to 387 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: exist within that that the loose structure of morality and 388 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: or justification and and and all it takes is a 389 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: little bit of chaos in a person's framework right to 390 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: get begin to him to tear down the order with 391 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: which they construct right hardcore morality and and and that's 392 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: really the battle, right. I think Jordan Peterson talks about 393 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: it pretty extensively, which is the battle between order and chaos. 394 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: You know, when he the ideation of He's got this 395 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: beautiful lecture about the ideation of God right in the 396 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: first book of Genesis, and and and what that metaphorically 397 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: is saying is that all humanity is perpetually wrestling with 398 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: that fact, right. And I think Charlie clearly defined that 399 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: right by his commentary about distinctions between different things things, 400 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: and the distinctions are what create the framework that we 401 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: build morality against out of right, instead of the chaos, 402 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: the destruction or the pulling apart of those things which 403 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: hold the fabric of society or civilization together. You know, 404 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: any good for you if you will to let me 405 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: hear it. Let's hear it. So. 406 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: Per year, police contacts with people ages sixteen and up 407 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 3: are around fifty to sixty million people per years, and 408 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, like you referenced, out of about one 409 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: thousand and four people shot and killed by police, thirteen 410 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: unarmed black people were shot and killed. 411 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: How many white people were shot and killed by unarmed 412 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: white dudes? That might be the twenty seven So as 413 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: thirteen black people unarmed blacks were killed by police officers 414 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. 415 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, yeah, so it's got to be a lot 416 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: more than thirteen. 417 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: It looks like. 418 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: At least four hundred and twenty one people were shot 419 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: and killed by the police who are known to be unarmed, 420 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: but it's not giving me specifics of the thing on. 421 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: Whether they were white. Yeah, okay, a lot more. I'll 422 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: just a lot more and that, and that makes sense 423 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: by population as well too. But thirteen is a pretty 424 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: low number again going back to the how these statistics 425 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: are pushed off to build into these narratives, right, you know, 426 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I really that hit 427 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: me heavily in that clip that you watched with him, right, 428 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: it's this it's this attack on the framework, right, and 429 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: he talks about the first six books of Genesis. Right, 430 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: it's attack on a framework. And when you think about this, 431 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: even if you're not religious in nature? You know, what 432 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: are the fundamental truths? What are the truths that you 433 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: know hold it together? Because right now I think everybody 434 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: is feeling, oh my god, civilizations unraveling, society is unraveling. 435 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: There's a there's a race war, there's a religion war, 436 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: a religious war, there's a political war. There's a war 437 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: between the poor and the rich, the elites. There's all 438 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: these wars taking place. And so what are the foundational 439 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: things that are that are emerging out of that? Right? 440 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: We see there's a war, there's there's people that want 441 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: to tear down the most pinnacle thing of all of it, right, 442 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: which is the distinct difference between a man and a woman. 443 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: And what those roles are? You know, And if you're not, 444 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: if you don't believe in and Adam and Eve or 445 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: or or or that, and you are an evolutionary biologist 446 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: or you're evolutionists, right, what you do recognize is is 447 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: all right, even then that biology is intact. Right, So 448 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: what happens what that's I mean, that's the pinnacle. If 449 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: you start tearing that apart, you tear part the fabric 450 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: of of existence itself. And there's a concerted effort to 451 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: tear a part that. Now, if you're a person and 452 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: you want to believe whatever you want to believe about yourself, 453 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: that's good, but you're not going to force me to 454 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: believe it. Right, I'm not gonna assault you or attack 455 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: you or dispell you unless you cross the line. Right 456 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: by by forcing my hand, forcing my mind, you're forcing 457 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: me to submit to your ideology or or as as 458 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: em talks about your psychosis or your pharmacau or no 459 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: what cause it the I forget right now, but you 460 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: know you're your underlying component of where you are psychologically. Right. 461 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: The other is like the idea that somehow children can 462 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: make decisions for themselves. Right to go in there and 463 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 2: pulch children away from their parents, to create an idea 464 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: that children are independent in their thinking capabilities. But yet 465 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: all the science proves that a human being's mind isn't 466 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: even fully developed, or they're twenty six to twenty nine 467 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: years old. But we want a ten year old girl 468 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: or boy to make a decisions to irrepiably damage their 469 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: physical selves, their mental seals, their emotional sells. And now 470 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: you look at some of the laws that have been 471 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: just passed in California, it's that that is breaking down 472 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: the framework of the most I think the most sacred 473 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: bond that exists, right, which is between a parent and 474 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: their child and the need, the necessity, the innate. I'll 475 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: tell you one thing, man, if my children were ever 476 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: hurt or child or anything like that, like all bets 477 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: are off, I completely say, you know what, I'm done. 478 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm done plane by the rules, the moral rules, because 479 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: you break the you broke the Covenment covenant, which is 480 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: children are the most protected class in the planet. But somehow, 481 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: some way, there is an insiduous state of immorality, moral relevstic, 482 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, ideology that's trying to infect my children with 483 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: this this breakdown of these sacred structures. Right, Well, what strateges. 484 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: That it's only uh, it's selectively giving children authority over 485 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: their own decisions. They can't buy they can buy alcohol, 486 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: they can't join the military, can't buy a gun, can't 487 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: do all kinds it, can't rent a car, but they 488 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: can make certain other decisions about their hormonal makeup. 489 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, and that's intentional, right right, because 490 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: you you want to give them enough power to crack 491 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: those that are holding together this moral framework, this this 492 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: spiritual framework. Right, then you have what the holy versus 493 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: the profane that he calls, right, and that's the old 494 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: Sodom and Gomorrah story. Right, that's when you see, you know, 495 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 2: these these areas of complete decadence and decay, societal decay. 496 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: What happens when when there's no more rules, the people 497 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: that are are are devout in nature, they suffer the 498 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: most and they become victims of this this decay, right, 499 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 2: this moral decay, this unrestricted, unregulated moral decay. 500 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 3: I might I might frame that slightly, just to switch 501 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: it a little bit. I think that it's not that 502 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: you get rid of the holy. I think that you 503 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: just replace it. Right, you start worshiping when you when 504 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: you when you flip the good and the true and 505 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: the beautiful things as what we worship, and we start 506 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: worshiping things like power, money, sex, things like that, and you. 507 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: Flip the golden calf. 508 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: That's right, golden calf, right, and that's pain is now 509 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: the good. And so it's interesting, it's more of an inversion. 510 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: And what what I think, what I think the big 511 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: struggle with people right now is is you know, and 512 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: I think COVID you know, broke something loose because people 513 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: begin to realize whoa the institutions that we have been 514 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: uh growing up to believe are are into are are 515 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 2: what is the word I'm looking for? That are sacred? Right? Right? 516 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: That are sacred? Now we know, oh, they're not sacred. 517 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: And so I think that's what's taking place, and people 518 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: are trying to figure out, well, what what is taking 519 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: Is there a war? What kind of war is this? 520 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 2: And where is it coming? Why are there people intentionally 521 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: trying to promote pornography, drug use? Uh uh open calls 522 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: for violence. I mean, it's remarkable to see the magnitude 523 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: of people that applauded the assassination of Charlie Right and 524 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 2: how like more people are calling for who's next and 525 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: who's who's gonna who's or who we get next? I mean, 526 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: that's what this is, right, and they believe they have 527 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 2: the moral high ground. 528 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: You know. 529 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 2: I think the next question really is, all right, how 530 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 2: do we fight back? Or how do you fight back? 531 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 2: I know how I fight back, but I want to 532 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: know how people want to know how am I supposed 533 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: to fight back. One of the greatest things that we 534 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: saw as a result the last week, as we saw 535 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 2: this magnificent rise in action, right, thirty three thousand requests 536 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: into Turning Point USA to start new new organizations in 537 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: schools and universities all across the country. Thirty three thousand 538 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 2: requests thirty three love that right old Christ's age when 539 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: he sacrificed for our beliefs. 540 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: To put that in perspective, I think the existing ones 541 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: were in the low thousands. 542 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean this is a staggering number. Stagger right. 543 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: I want to know what the numbers are for first 544 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: time church attendees. Right, there are all these videos out 545 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: there about people putting on suits and going into church 546 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: for the first time. I know dozens of people I 547 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: know that we're like, we're going to church this weekend. 548 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 2: So that alone is phenomenal, you know. I think that's 549 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: the first place you fight back is to clearly establish 550 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: what you believe in, to define your beliefs. Now. I 551 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: do this exercise with my private coaching clients sometimes because 552 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: every now and then, and you know, one of my 553 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 2: clients is you know, as I've said before, I focus 554 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 2: on the physical, the mental, emotional, and the spiritual, and 555 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: most people never even want to touch their spiritual you know, 556 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: identities at all, because it's just it's very difficult. You 557 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: have to take these blind leaps of faith, and I 558 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: think a lot of people are afraid of that. So 559 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: the exercise I do is is I have people, in 560 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: one hour, right, go up, get a whiteboard or a 561 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: giant poster board, sit down in a quiet space, get 562 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: rid of your phone, get everybody out, Just sit there, calmly, 563 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: and in one hour, draw out or write out your 564 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: belief systems or your belief system right, what do you 565 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: actually believe in? So for me, I would start in 566 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 2: the middle, I draw you know this this, I draw 567 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: this you know, rectangle or or square if you will, 568 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: and I in the middle of that square, I would 569 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: put Jesus Christ right. And so in that square, then 570 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: all of a sudden I come off and I write 571 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: these other things in there. And so for me, how 572 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 2: I built that out as I had right, I had 573 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: I had Peter, I had Paul, I had the apostles right, 574 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: and then I had Christ's word himself right. And so 575 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: there all of a sudden, there now off that what 576 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 2: are their stories? And then from there where does it go? 577 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: And then over here I do a foundation, maybe a 578 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 2: pillar of family right, I do a pillar of family? 579 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: What does family mean? Right? Right? Then I do within 580 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: that pillar, I say, all right, how do I teach 581 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: or train my children? Right? Over here, I go up 582 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: my pillar as a husband? What does it mean to 583 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: be a husband? Right? Then my pillar over here as 584 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: a friend? Like, what are my responsibilities? What type of messaging? 585 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: What type of support do I give the people I 586 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: love most? Right? And that's everything from how do I 587 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 2: lift them up? How do I give them grace? How 588 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: do I give them a second chance? Right? How do 589 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: I how do I teach them? How do I lead them? 590 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: How do I how do I follow them? Right? And 591 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: then over here how do I do that in a community? Right? 592 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: How do I do that? With my meaning in life? Right? 593 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: And then from there, well, what is the meaning of 594 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: my life? And what do I need? What is my purpose? Right? 595 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 2: And because I know the foundation is Jevus Christ's pretty 596 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 2: pretty quick to get to the place. Well, my meaning 597 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 2: and purpose in life is to talk about Jesus Christ 598 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: and how it can impact you in a positive way, 599 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: how it can give you redemption because he died for 600 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 2: your sins. Right. So then within that right, how do 601 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: I rehabilitate my own sinful mind, because certainly, man, I 602 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 2: have been a sinner in my life. There's no doubt 603 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: I have sinned my life, like horrifically sinned. And I'm 604 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: not here to judge any other sinner. But what I 605 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 2: am here to do is I build out this this 606 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 2: picture of my belief systems. And then the second part 607 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: of that. Once you've done that exercise, right, then why 608 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: I want you to bring in your children, your spouse, 609 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 2: a friend, a loved one, I don't care who it is, 610 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: and I want you to teach them in one hour 611 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: your belief systems. Because when you teach somebody what you 612 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: believe in, you're testing your knowledge, faith, your knowledge base, right, 613 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 2: You're testing whether or not you've really thought through this structure, 614 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: this foundation. And so often I think that's why we 615 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 2: see such a mental health crisis in this country, is 616 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 2: that people's foundations are built upon sand. And we understand 617 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: based on the parable of the sower of seeds, we 618 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 2: recognize that when you try and plant seeds in the sand, 619 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 2: what happens, or you try and build the foundation of 620 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: your church and saying what happens? And that's the problem. 621 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: People aren't sure what they believe in. So that's what 622 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 2: you have to do, right because once you have that 623 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 2: core system, those beliefs, now you know what's worth fighting for. 624 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: Now you know how you're going to begin to wage war, 625 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: right or matter, you know why you're gonna wage war. 626 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 2: The how is the next step, right, But you know 627 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 2: why you're gonna wage war for what because of these pillars, 628 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: Because of this foundation. You know what's important. You know 629 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: the virtues and the value systems. You understand the certain 630 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: core tenets or principles or the different versus that you 631 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: pin to these different things. Right, to get in that 632 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 2: scripture and to recognize, hey, this is the structure because 633 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: so often here's the deal in the world we live in. Man, 634 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: there's so many things pulling you away from that. And 635 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 2: that's the spiritual warfare. On the other side, that temptation, 636 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: the temptation for money, the temptation for power, the temptation 637 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: for the easy way, the temptation for lust or greed 638 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: or whatever it is. Man, that thing that pulls you 639 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: away from that foundation. And that's what it is. Man. 640 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: But you cannot begin to wage that war unless you 641 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: know distinctly. And that's what Charlie Kirk talks about the 642 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 2: distinctions unless you know distinctly what you believe in and why. 643 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: So as you're trying to figure out, you know, how 644 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: to wage this war and how to fight back against 645 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: this persecution of ideas, you know, one of the things 646 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: that goes back to the idea of that word and 647 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 2: where it comes from and what it can do for 648 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: you, you know, is to get into that those verses, get 649 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: into that scripture. So you know, Geordie, I know you 650 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: always talk about those verses, you know, and I know 651 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 2: it before we got on, you talked about some ideas 652 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: about how do you combat that persecution? So what do 653 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: you got, man? What are some of the verses that 654 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 2: really stand out for you? 655 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's confusing for everyone, and no one really knows 656 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 3: where to start if you're honest with yourself, and so 657 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: a great place to start is just to see what 658 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: the Bible itself talked about about persecution. I think the 659 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 3: first thing is that to note that persecution was predicted 660 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 3: in John fifteen twenty. It says, remember what I told you, 661 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 3: A servant is not greater than his master. If they 662 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 3: persecuted me, they will persecute you. Also, I was Jesus Christ, 663 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 3: so it's coming. Thelob also talks about strength in persecution. 664 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: This is. 665 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 3: The Lord is my light and my salvation. Whom shall 666 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 3: I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life. 667 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 3: Of whom shall I be afraid? Next is talking about 668 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: how we should respond to persecution. This is Matthew five 669 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 3: forty four. Love your enemies and pray for those who 670 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 3: persecute you. It's probably the hardest one to hear right now. 671 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 3: Pray for the people to persecute you. Absolutely, And there's 672 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 3: messages about hope and persecution. You will be hated by 673 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 3: everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm 674 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 3: to the end will be saved. Now I've just got 675 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 3: two more quick ones that I think are really nice. 676 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 3: How should we think about persecution? This is James, one 677 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 3: of my favorite verses in the Bible, James, chapter one, 678 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 3: verse two to three. Consider it pure joy, my brothers 679 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because 680 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 3: you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. 681 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 3: And then the finally, the last thing is everyone's warning 682 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 3: about justice. What we see justice? Well, the Bible talks 683 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: about this in Romans chapter twelve, verse nineteen Paul says, 684 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 3: do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room 685 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 3: for God's wrath. For it is written it is mine 686 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 3: to avenge, I will repay, says the Lord. 687 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: I think every one of those is packed with so 688 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,439 Speaker 2: many lessons, you know, And that's again the challenge as 689 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 2: you try and figure out how to wage this warfare 690 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 2: or even how to understand it right, is to recognize 691 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 2: that there's a component that we are being persecuted, right, 692 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 2: and that persecution is the essence of whatever that evil 693 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 2: is or that moral relativism. And that's why it's imperative 694 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: that you go back and you are able to define 695 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: your beliefs in those verses are the ideas that you 696 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 2: can use to really kind of begin to structure that 697 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: out for you and to figure out why those verses came, 698 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: about what the meaning behind them, and then to think 699 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: about your life and think about how you're feeling persecuted 700 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 2: in relative terms to those verses, because that that that 701 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: becomes your shield and your sword are those verses in 702 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 2: that Word of God. So as you begin to really 703 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: continue down that path and learning learning really how to 704 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 2: how to put that uh that that belief structure in 705 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: place in order to begin, uh really fighting back. Those 706 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 2: are some great places to start as well. Man, I 707 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,479 Speaker 2: got on a call with uh Sean the other day 708 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: and after all this went down, and we were just 709 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, going round and round, and one of the 710 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 2: things that we just kept going around is just, you know, 711 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 2: all of the nonsense that was engulfed in this this 712 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 2: the perceived warfare that was taking these other side conflicts 713 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: within the internet and on x and all these other places, 714 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 2: in these little battles, you know. And that's the hard part. 715 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: That's what you're struggling with. I know you are. It's like, 716 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 2: all right, what battle? Where do I go? Where do 717 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: I wage it? How do I start? But you can't 718 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 2: start to wage war unless you know why you're going 719 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 2: to war. So that's what I'm asking you to do. 720 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm asking you to figure out why you want to 721 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: go to war, right, if you're willing, if you think 722 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 2: in your heart that yeah, this is it, this is 723 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: this is the line in the scene. If we don't start, 724 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: you know, confronting this evil face to face, we're going 725 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 2: to lose it. All. Oh yeah, all right, well what 726 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 2: are you fighting for? Because I'm going to tell you 727 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 2: when it gets ugly, and it it will get ugly. 728 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: Guarant it's gonna get ugly. I mean, an assassination of 729 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 2: a person like Charlie Kirk, that's about as ugly as 730 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 2: it gets. Next to trying the assassination of a president 731 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 2: or a political figure, or waging war against the whole populations. 732 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's happening. This is all happening. It's not 733 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: a lie, it's not fake, it's not fabricated. This is real. 734 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: So this is happening. So if that's it, and you 735 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 2: are saying we are in a spiritual warfare, then you 736 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: better believe why you want to go to war. So 737 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: that's what I'm asking you. Figure out what your belief 738 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: system is, map it out, and if you need help, 739 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 2: seek somebody else that's done this. Seek out somebody that 740 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 2: has the time and the investment in this process that 741 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 2: can articulate in a way that makes sense. One of 742 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 2: the things that helped me, because my journey towards this 743 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: belief system was not easy, was I realized that what 744 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 2: Christ did is he overwhelmed the enemy with his words, 745 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 2: and his word is the gospel, and the gospel is good, 746 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 2: and his word is God's word, and that word brought 747 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 2: order out of chaos. So if you're going to fight 748 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 2: the spiritual warfare, start I use in the word, and 749 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 2: that's the word of Jesus Christ. Thank you God, bless you, God, 750 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 2: bless our country. I just wish you all the best. 751 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: God speak wh