WEBVTT - Breaking Down the Primetime Emmys (or) Is Television Dead?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren z mcomedy for the Home Office

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin, Texas. They bill it as Television's biggest night

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<v Speaker 1>last night was the Emmys. I don't want to start

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<v Speaker 1>off on a negative note, but at one point last

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<v Speaker 1>night you did look at me and say, is TV dead?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if that goes along with the

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<v Speaker 1>moniker of TV's biggest night, but maybe that is the direction.

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<v Speaker 1>More about the direction and the art direction and the

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<v Speaker 1>way they are giving us the Emmys as opposed to television,

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<v Speaker 1>because the thing is there's good TV out there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the way the Emmys were presented, it's almost as

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<v Speaker 1>if and this is what it might took away is

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<v Speaker 1>it was depressing in that I think the entire show

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<v Speaker 1>to me felt like an in memoriam.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is it's feeling old, it's feeling and it

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<v Speaker 2>is literally because in part, I don't know why we

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<v Speaker 2>keep doing tributes to things when we're alive and well

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<v Speaker 2>and making new content. So I remember, I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was the Emmys last year they did these little vignettes

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<v Speaker 2>that were paying homage to iconic TV shows, And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought at the time that was because that was the

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<v Speaker 2>seventy fifth EMMIS if I'm remembering correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got like the cast of Cheers together and

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<v Speaker 1>they recreated.

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<v Speaker 2>It and they recreated the sets and that was cute,

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<v Speaker 2>and Okay, it's we're celebrating an anniversary. I understand the

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<v Speaker 2>thought process. Now we're on the seventy six memis and

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<v Speaker 2>in the most Hollywood way, here's what we do. When

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<v Speaker 2>something works, we do it again. We're gonna give it

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<v Speaker 2>to you again. We're not going to be creative and

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<v Speaker 2>try something new. We're gonna give you the sequel of

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<v Speaker 2>the little segments. And this year they paid tribute to

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<v Speaker 2>just types of characters they got together, like, oh, these

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<v Speaker 2>were some TV doctors, these were some TV lawyers, these

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<v Speaker 2>were some TV but then also just the cast of

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<v Speaker 2>the West.

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<v Speaker 3>Wing I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The TV dads then was maybe the weirdest thing. They

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<v Speaker 1>got three really random TV days hearing the.

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<v Speaker 3>Trios were so random. Yeah, because it's like, who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to say yes to this? That's what it is. Who

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<v Speaker 3>can you get to say yes, we have this site, George.

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<v Speaker 4>Lopez, Jesse Tayler, Ferguson get them out of here, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand why we were paying some kind of

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<v Speaker 4>tribute this year to just general characters like oh, a

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<v Speaker 4>dad on television.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's still a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's still dads on TVs, and we're acting like it's

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<v Speaker 2>all times gone by, and it's really making the whole show,

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<v Speaker 2>the Emmys, and then in part the industry feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's past.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>My biggest takeaway last night is if you watched, there

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<v Speaker 1>were some huge shows Showgun, Set Records, Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>And Showgun is a brand new show. It's its first season,

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<v Speaker 2>so we are not dead. Showgun was an amazing show.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved everything about it. You and I devoured that show,

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<v Speaker 2>and it rightfully won so many Emmys fourteen plus four

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen emmys.

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<v Speaker 1>You it's set records before we even got to last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the case, TV is not dead. No, and Hacks

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<v Speaker 1>was was a uh a big winner, pleasant surprise last

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<v Speaker 1>night as the winner of Best Comedy. It surprised everybody

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<v Speaker 1>think God Bear didn't Well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was gonna surprised people, not because the show is not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch Hacks, everybody, I love Hacks, but because people thought

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<v Speaker 2>the Bear was gonna win.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the different topic we'll get in.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it didn't win, and we will discuss because

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love the show. But TV's not dead. There

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<v Speaker 1>are good shows. Maybe the networks aren't doing a very

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<v Speaker 1>good job of cultivating this and putting stuff on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is great TV out there. Maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best TV we've had in years is on streamers

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Hulu, Facts, you name it, all these all

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<v Speaker 1>these streamers are killing at Peacock. Even there was even

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<v Speaker 1>a new exciting reality show that got mentioned last night,

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<v Speaker 1>thank God, like Amazing Race RuPaul's Drag Race.

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, the Traders one Traders one awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's just been on a couple of seasons and

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<v Speaker 1>so and that's on Peacock. And so the feel was

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<v Speaker 1>ABC screaming don't forget us. Remember when we made you

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<v Speaker 1>feel good seventeen years ago when West Wing was on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just made me sad because I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that cute kid do lay Hill. Oh he's a grown

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<v Speaker 1>ass man with kids and he has a beard.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen. I love Henry Lair and walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Over and do the jukebox thing, and I love Henry Winkler.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love Ron Howard and they're both still you know,

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<v Speaker 2>working in talented and beyond incredible careers.

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<v Speaker 3>But why are we doing the Happy Days set tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>I love?

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<v Speaker 3>It made no sense, you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I love Henry Winkler for yes, I was old enough

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<v Speaker 1>to watch Happy Days. He's amazing in Barry, he was

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<v Speaker 1>so good as the theatrical coach for Bill Hayter and

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<v Speaker 1>Barry like, he's done great TV in the last five years.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need to harken back seventy five years to

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Days.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing, Like interestingly, and this is like

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<v Speaker 2>same but slightly offshoot of this conversation has won last Night.

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<v Speaker 2>And Paul w Down's one of the of acts who's

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<v Speaker 2>also so funny on the show, noted in the speech, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard for we didn't know we'd get this

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<v Speaker 2>show greenlit. The main character is a woman in her sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, he actually said, we have an aging population.

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<v Speaker 2>A big portion of our population is older, and we

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<v Speaker 2>need to make sure we pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Attention to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a good point, Like and you just pointed

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<v Speaker 2>out there's probably a lot of older people.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not sitting here saying like don't have older characters,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell storylines about older people and being old isn't cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that. I'm saying, don't create.

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<v Speaker 2>An awards show where you're making your product look like

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<v Speaker 2>it's gone by and it's dead.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked the show smelled of mothballs. So and I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, don'ts like, don't throw away the past,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love paying homage, like putting out whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>pair them with young and new. And I love hearing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the kind of the old stories. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>way to work it in. It just felt the nonsensical. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the nonsensical of it and the rhythm of it was

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<v Speaker 1>really odd.

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<v Speaker 2>And while you are spotlighting older actors and older storylines,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great. You also you got to like nod to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these shows are losing their new audiences. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know many people. We were just at family weekend

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<v Speaker 2>at TCU. I don't know many college kids who watched

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<v Speaker 2>the Emmys last night. When I was in college, I

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<v Speaker 2>did watch those awards shows.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and it was like that for all the award shows, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we all watched the Oscars. You watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Grammys and you know obviously all the ratings for all

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<v Speaker 1>these shows, and here's.

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<v Speaker 2>The key difference, and now I will kind of switch.

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<v Speaker 2>But another thing I think they did wrong last night

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<v Speaker 2>making the whole rhythm of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Look our broad review.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I were watching it going I kept saying,

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<v Speaker 2>should we turn it off?

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<v Speaker 3>Should we turn it off?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you just feel like you got to finish,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew we want I wanted to review it

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<v Speaker 2>having seen the whole thing, so I'm like, I'm a journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta do my research, and really watched the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it felt sleepy the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt just fine the whole time. Fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing that I think threw off the rhythm

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<v Speaker 2>and where I think you're losing your maybe your new audience.

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<v Speaker 2>They can see all these celebrities on social media, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but one way that they cannot see them is in

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<v Speaker 2>these fun, heartfelt, potentially really funny award speeches where these

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<v Speaker 2>people are in a really key moment in their career

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<v Speaker 2>giving an awards.

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<v Speaker 1>Stow, this was a good point last night you made.

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<v Speaker 2>And they are cutting people off. They've started doing this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the same producer is producing these

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<v Speaker 2>Awards shows lately. But the host comes out in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>chastises the audience and tells these nominees, if you get

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<v Speaker 2>up here, don't talk too long. We're gonna play you off.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't And you can see it. They get up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would love to know what the timer they're

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<v Speaker 2>given is. It feels like they're telling seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's forty five seconds, and that's from the moment they

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<v Speaker 1>stop on the stage. You could see the teleprompter in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle and the forty five second clock went on

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and they are getting kind of down. You

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<v Speaker 1>made a great point and I couldn't put my finger

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<v Speaker 1>on it last night. But and this is not on

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<v Speaker 1>the host. The levees got up and the Ship's creek.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a fan of Shit's Creek, then they were

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<v Speaker 1>hosting last night. They're trying something new. So it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get away from the Jimmy Kimmel's of the World

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<v Speaker 1>and the John Olivers because honestly, those shows are dead

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<v Speaker 1>now and going away and not many people are watching.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's try and maybe shift gears and breathe some

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<v Speaker 1>new life into this and get TV stars up there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they did they tried it what they find

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and again not on the levees at all. When

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<v Speaker 1>they come out the host, whoever it is, and kill

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five to thirty minutes off the top of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>They have so much time there, and I'll due respect

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<v Speaker 1>to the levees, I could have cut that in half

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<v Speaker 1>or probably honestly done away with most all of it

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<v Speaker 1>off the top of the show, like, well you take

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, And they took the time from the stars

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<v Speaker 1>of Steve Martin and Martin Short and Meryl Streep and

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<v Speaker 1>all these you know, Jeremy from the Bear getting up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, all these stars are there, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one thing we can't get on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>this raw emotion. And the whole point is we have

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<v Speaker 1>stars in the room. Let them cook, no pun intended

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<v Speaker 1>to the bear. Let them cook, let them do their thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have admonished them. The show starting with admonishing

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest stars that you've come to honor and telling

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<v Speaker 1>them to shut up and get off stage and don't

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<v Speaker 1>speak their mind.

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<v Speaker 3>It is about them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I know it's about making an award

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<v Speaker 2>show that you're going to get advertising money for, but

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<v Speaker 2>the the magic in a bottle that you have. What

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<v Speaker 2>I remember from most most award shows over the years

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<v Speaker 2>is the speeches.

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<v Speaker 3>You are capturing.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone at a magical moment where they've achieved their dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>They're caught off guard, they'd been nervous about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are just getting up there and you're giving them

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<v Speaker 2>forty five seconds. I don't think I could make a

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<v Speaker 2>toast about my birthday this year. Well maybe, but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I'm saying time And the worst part is

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<v Speaker 1>we imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanking everyone in your life and career for one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest moments of your life, and you have forty

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<v Speaker 2>five seconds to do it and be funny and be

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<v Speaker 2>emotional and speak from the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, with a ginormous clock ticking down

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<v Speaker 1>and John Hamm and Meryl Streep staring at you like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how nervous you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel it because every person gets up there and

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<v Speaker 2>this didn't used to happen in a word speeches and

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing they do is gough, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And you're making some of the most talented people in

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<v Speaker 2>the world seem awkward and rushed, and you're killing the

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<v Speaker 2>vibe and instead we're getting these trios of TV doctor

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<v Speaker 2>and lawyer reunions for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're god. I think we've really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>scraped back the scab on what's wrong with these show

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<v Speaker 1>because I think for a while they got so out

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<v Speaker 1>of control and they were so long and like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>these these speech is dron on. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>pendulum has sw Yeah, we over corrected, as we tend

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<v Speaker 1>to do in America. We overcorrected and made it worse.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we have this show where the hosts take

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<v Speaker 1>up so much time and the stars are not getting

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<v Speaker 1>any time. And I've come to see the stars. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>the best example last night is Showgun one. I forget

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<v Speaker 1>which award this was for. Maybe it was at the

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<v Speaker 1>end when they won Best Drama Series and they got

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<v Speaker 1>up on stage and quickly killed their forty five seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>which is insane that the biggest award of the night

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<v Speaker 1>is Drama and Comedy Series and they finally win. All

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<v Speaker 1>the stars get up there, the clock sticking down and

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<v Speaker 1>it's over, and they start playing the music and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the stars of the show got up and read

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<v Speaker 1>something in Japanese. I didn't read it. He gave his

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<v Speaker 1>speech in Japanese, and thank god somebody in the booth.

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<v Speaker 1>I give all credit to whoever the producer or director

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<v Speaker 1>is said to kill the music because it started playing,

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<v Speaker 1>they started playing them off, and instead what happened was

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<v Speaker 1>this guy gave an acceptance speech in Japanese and then

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<v Speaker 1>they gave it in English, and it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more kind of poignant, beautiful points of the entire night.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something we wouldn't have had if we had

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty second clock. And I don't know if there

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<v Speaker 1>is a different design to this of Look, just tell

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<v Speaker 1>everybody you don't need to announce it. The hosts don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to come out and admonish people. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a debate where we have the rules of the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Just let everybody know, Hey, we're going to let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>But around forty five seconds, fifty seconds, if it's droning on,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to put up a clock. You have twenty

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<v Speaker 1>more seconds to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get Can I tell you right this up here's what

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<v Speaker 2>they should really be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's going to get more subjective, but have.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody with a good sense of how good it is

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<v Speaker 2>up there playing only certain people off or like give

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<v Speaker 2>more time and tell everybody in advance, give more time

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<v Speaker 2>to certain awards. Like I hate to say it, but

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<v Speaker 2>when you know the best I don't know when some

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<v Speaker 2>of them. When someone is we don't know who the

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<v Speaker 2>director is. We don't know the best director, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's really funny and great. Sometimes they are at random,

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<v Speaker 2>but nobody knows who that is. But if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going well, maybe you cut him off, or maybe those awards.

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<v Speaker 3>Get less time. But you're right, best drama, give them

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<v Speaker 3>a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Big stars, When the biggest stars are on stage, you

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<v Speaker 1>have done your job. Congratulate because a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the biggest problems with the Oscars is

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<v Speaker 1>there aren't big stars. You don't have big stars on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the movies we haven't seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the categories, we don't know the people. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Emmys and the Globes, I'll put you in here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done it. You have got the biggest stars on stage. Boom,

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<v Speaker 1>you've won. Now let them cook. And what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is you've made them rattling nervous messes and they blubber

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<v Speaker 1>all over themselves and they stumble and they're nervous and

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<v Speaker 1>then they just jump off stage and it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>like who was it the cut? Oh my god, I'm blanking.

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<v Speaker 1>Who got back on stage? Thank god? Oh is the

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<v Speaker 1>guy from.

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<v Speaker 3>Richard gadd by Rainwah.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy from Baby Rainbeard. Thank god? He won several

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<v Speaker 1>awards because he was so nervous he forgot to think

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<v Speaker 1>his his parents and his wife and his kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was. And it's like, oh, thank god I

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<v Speaker 1>won again. That was a big admission.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not his wife and his kids, but his parents.

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<v Speaker 2>He got up and he said, I'm like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Glaring omission. Thank god I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was one of my favorite And I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to give a shout out because these were some

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<v Speaker 2>of my I wrote down my favorite speeches of the night.

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<v Speaker 3>Richard gad Baby Reindeer.

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<v Speaker 2>Jean Smart from hacks Lamar and Morris of New Girl

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<v Speaker 2>won an award for Fargo, and he was so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>He said something about like he like slipped up what

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<v Speaker 2>he said. Then he said, sorry, sorry, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about that. And I know where babies come from.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he was just being so natural and funny. Greg

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<v Speaker 2>Burlanty got a big Award, and I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>really poignant. So there were some good speeches and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I could have watched another minute of Lamar and

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<v Speaker 2>Morris up there. He's really funny and he was great

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<v Speaker 2>and he was having a moment where he like beat

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Downey JUNR and he said, dude, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>poster review sign it like, and he's interacting with everybody

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like Steve Martin sitting right here, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was great.

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<v Speaker 3>So give us more of that, Emmys.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need the awkward bits. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really awkward last night. And I love them both and

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<v Speaker 1>this is how I know it was awkward. And the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason this was pulled off is because she is brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Lynch. They did like two coaches from television and

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<v Speaker 1>they opened to a locker room. There's Jane Lynch and

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the gentleman who's the assistant coach on Ted

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<v Speaker 1>Lasso next to rich Jason Sadeikis and like they do

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<v Speaker 1>this weird coaching bit and it was just like what,

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<v Speaker 1>like who thought? So you know what I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty seconds of a weird coaching bit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even the give it.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me Jane Lynch if it's Glee's fifteen year anniversary.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. It made no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, get Jane Lynch on stage and right cook.

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<v Speaker 1>She's brilliant, she's funny, like and I get maybe they're like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we can only have so many presenters, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to inject people elsewhere. And maybe, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the answer for that, but that isn't the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearkening back to the good old days. Throughout this show,

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<v Speaker 1>it just it felt so sad and it made me

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<v Speaker 1>depressed in like it didn't make me reminisce. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought. Overall the hosts, yeah, we're fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss big moments like when Neil Patrick Harris used

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<v Speaker 2>to do big musical moments that was really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we didn't really start with anything huge.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a musical theater kid, but I was taught open

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<v Speaker 2>with a song, and with a song, it makes people

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<v Speaker 2>feel good.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe the most hot, maybe the most like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just be honest about how mad people are about

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<v Speaker 2>this moment of the night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah was the bear winning stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you're a fan, but I'm going to read

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<v Speaker 2>one tweet that caught my eye.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan, but I am again, I'm not in

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<v Speaker 1>an echo chamber. I am open enough to realize that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a travesty that they were considered a comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the big debate, right is The Bear nominated

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<v Speaker 2>for multiple but in the comedy categories. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the first season it kind of got away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>People were raising questions like is it really a comedy?

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like the first season The Bear had

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<v Speaker 2>kind of some funnier, wilder moments, but it's gotten more

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<v Speaker 2>and more drama e and now people are like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only is it a drama, it's darker than Showgun,

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<v Speaker 1>really some of the darkest dramas. It's about mental health,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about suicide, it's about it. It's not even a drama.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very dark, heavy drama.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you saw those people, I feel like tonight

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<v Speaker 2>last night, this year's awards show, was the shift where

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<v Speaker 2>people are going to start talking about how they're mad

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<v Speaker 2>about it because you saw some of the winners from

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<v Speaker 2>The Bear going up last night and the other the

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<v Speaker 2>people nominated in the comedy categories.

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<v Speaker 3>You could feel the tension.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody tweeted, the Bear is committing voter fraud and stealing

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<v Speaker 2>the Emmys.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's good, And I think, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>this is real.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody sent me a tweet last night from the mom

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<v Speaker 2>of Hannah Einbinder.

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<v Speaker 3>I think is Einbender? How you say your last name?

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<v Speaker 3>From Hacks?

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<v Speaker 2>And she didn't win, and somebody said this is her

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<v Speaker 2>mom and she tweeted f the Bear because.

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<v Speaker 5>She's on the show Hacks, which is a comedy on

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<v Speaker 5>Avid Elementary. There are some really really good comedies out there.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, I'm glad Hacks won. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>maybe if that was a because the Emmys we do

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<v Speaker 5>vote on ourselves, as you know, Academy members or you

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<v Speaker 5>know sag Affter members. We vote amongst ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad. Look, I'm glad that the Bear won

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a terrific show. It's great writing, it's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is what this is the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've never left once in the history of that show, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not show. I've never left. There was not

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<v Speaker 1>a joke on the show. There's nothing funny about it

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<v Speaker 1>there it doesn't even remotely dance around that line of comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like honestly, the Sopranos that was funny. The Sopranos made

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<v Speaker 1>really light they they you know, amongstilling people. The Sopranos

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<v Speaker 1>kind of danced that line of like it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bear is dark. Wow, I mean there's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're and hopefully people will comment on this. If you

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<v Speaker 1>binge watch The Bear, you got to take breaks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop watching it because, look, I'm from Chicago, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are some accurate Chicago things about it, like I do

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<v Speaker 2>argue with my family, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's non stop. I was like, I'm getting a headache

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<v Speaker 3>watching this show. They fight so much. So that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I stopped watching.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is a beautiful show. And again I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fan. I'm a big fan because I love the

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<v Speaker 1>culinary world, I love the actors, actresses. It's a phenomenal show.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm even I was a little put off,

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<v Speaker 1>like this, this shouldn't be and the problem is it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's hurting TV. Like the battle last night would have

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<v Speaker 1>been the Bear versus Showgun. That would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>kick ass Emmy's Battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're right, they're robbing themselves of headlines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the Comedy Battle because but the problem

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<v Speaker 2>was everyone went in knowing the Bear is probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>win and it's going to be annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right, there's so there's actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Really good comedies again right now, like Abbot, Elementary, like Hacks,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's frustrating, and I think it speaks to the

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<v Speaker 2>reality that Hacks won Best Comedy. They're giving the people

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bear the acting. They're awarding them because the

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<v Speaker 2>acting is amazing, but it's not a comedy. Hacks still

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<v Speaker 2>won Best Comedy. So we got to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm being serious. I think like people were annoyed

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<v Speaker 2>last night and it was robbing really really good Awards moments.

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<v Speaker 1>It like, we got to figure it out. Rob this

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<v Speaker 1>Awards moments.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just on an election. Here, can we figure out

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<v Speaker 3>the bear being nominated as a comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just simple. It's just like if they applied

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<v Speaker 1>for comany're like, you're not a comedy at all remotely.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, the funny thing is, and Laura and I

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<v Speaker 1>watched this last night, but grudgingly because there was a

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<v Speaker 1>great football game on last night, and I know Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to watch that. Okay, it was your Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>But but no, in all seriousness, this is our business.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm literally sitting below your Emmy right here,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmy Award winning Entertainment reporter, Launa. But we do. We

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<v Speaker 1>love this industry, and it's an industry we're still very

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<v Speaker 1>much involved in at Merritt Street and producing TV. And

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<v Speaker 1>we love this business and we love creating TV. We

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<v Speaker 1>love watching TV, we love discussing TV. We want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be good. I want the Emmys to not suck.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be wonderful. It felt so dated and sad

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<v Speaker 1>last night, and it's TV is in a good place.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to evolve or die. Television has evolved. The

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<v Speaker 1>streamers are banging. Let's go, let's move on, let's embrace

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on, and let's embrace these new actors, these

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<v Speaker 1>new actresses, these new comedians we have. There are so

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<v Speaker 1>many great comics in the world right now. Let them

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<v Speaker 1>get on stage and do their thing. I think there

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<v Speaker 1>is this old school, this old guard, and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>the people that produce the show that are so old

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<v Speaker 1>and holding on for dear life. That they're just like

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<v Speaker 1>you get in this ride, this writer's room of let's

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<v Speaker 1>do a great modern, innovative show, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring the cast to the love boat together.

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<v Speaker 2>Well see that and you just hit it. That's really

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<v Speaker 2>my overall thing last night. Nothing innovative, nothing new, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>on the one hand, it's an awards show. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, try some big things, take some big swings.

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<v Speaker 2>Because your numbers are down, right.

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<v Speaker 1>What's gonna happen? Yeah, what's gonna happen? Right? This is

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<v Speaker 1>what ratings suck. The ratings are already gonna suck.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when you take a risk, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>when you innovate. This is when you go outside the box.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think maybe it's what they think is innovating,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was. Instead it's exactly that. It's well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just go back to what people know. Let's bring out

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<v Speaker 2>TV doctors and lawyers.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I will amend one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently it was the West Wings twenty fifth anniversary, so

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<v Speaker 2>that is why they got the West Wing. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like bringing new people in, giving them, injecting new life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go back to the awards show speech thing. Briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>the lead actress who went on Shogun last night. She

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<v Speaker 2>was played off so quickly. You could have created a

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<v Speaker 2>new star there. You could have given her a few

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<v Speaker 2>more minutes and really on a big platform, created a

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<v Speaker 2>whole new a lister there. And maybe you did a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, but give her the moment because we need

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<v Speaker 2>a new era of stars. We were watching them age

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<v Speaker 2>before us.

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<v Speaker 1>Our intrepid producer Chrissy just sent this. This is actually

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<v Speaker 1>really good.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, welcome Chrissy, she's new on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>CHRISI welkom to the family. But Indie Wire Headline put

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<v Speaker 1>this out. The Emmys could have been an email surprise

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<v Speaker 1>winners and solid speeches. There is spice up a telecast

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<v Speaker 1>that felt more perfunctory than celebratory, let alone entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what tells you there's something wrong with the

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<v Speaker 2>formula two. We were watching some really talented people last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not be that good at what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Martin and Martin Short and Selena Gomez only murders

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<v Speaker 2>in the building. They got up and did a little

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<v Speaker 2>something and it was it was pretty funny. But even

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<v Speaker 2>they had a few little timing issues and there were

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<v Speaker 2>some other people who got up and literally it was

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<v Speaker 2>like like the always Sunny in Philadelphia pair. They were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny, but I'm like, they're way funnier on

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<v Speaker 2>their show. There's something about the way we do this

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<v Speaker 2>and these little bits we try to make in these

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<v Speaker 2>the scriptedness, and whoever is maybe green lighting things in

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<v Speaker 2>the writer's room. As you said, we're not letting people

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<v Speaker 2>do their thing in the right way, and you're making

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<v Speaker 2>really talented people.

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<v Speaker 1>Like look average. Yeah, and these are I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, if it wasn't for the brilliance of Jane Lynch,

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't for the brilliance of Steve Martin Martin Short,

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<v Speaker 1>like just because they're so good at what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled off. But it was still only fun. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just pulling it off. They weren't great.

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<v Speaker 2>That Online's right. It could have been an email. We're

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<v Speaker 2>getting Martin and Martin Short writing an email. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get them doing their stand up, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's And I know these shows

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<v Speaker 1>are hard. I have actually been a part of some

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<v Speaker 1>of these before, and I get it. These are it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get all these people together. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of moving parts. It's a tough room. But my god,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have that much talent and then, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the talent was not on display last night, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy part, and that I think is the biggest abomination,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you have so much talent and the talent

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<v Speaker 1>is not allowed to perform and it's not being showcased.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, we started this and we will end it with

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<v Speaker 1>the same question. Is television dead? No? Did the Emmys

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<v Speaker 1>make it feel that way? Yes, But to the contrary,

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<v Speaker 1>the industry we love and adore and have dedicated our

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<v Speaker 1>professional lives to is I would say, more alive than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>And that maybe was the biggest frustration. Television is not

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<v Speaker 1>only not dead, it's thriving. We just need the Emmys

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that and join us.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe a subtle difference is I actually thought

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<v Speaker 2>the other day I was going to text some I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to text Taylor, our daughter, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>watch TV. And I thought, you know, she doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>say that. She's like, I'm gonna go watch this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go watch Netflix. We don't all just younger

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<v Speaker 2>people don't just sit and go watch TV anymore. But

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<v Speaker 2>they do watch shows, and we need this Awards show

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<v Speaker 2>about shows to catch up with the vibe and stop

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<v Speaker 2>making people feel like they're just flipping through the TV channels.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, thank you guys, Thank you guys and Emmys. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a year here on the clock. Just like you

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<v Speaker 1>put your your speakers on the clock, you are on

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<v Speaker 1>the clock. You got twelve months to make it better.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll try and do better for you next time,

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<v Speaker 1>as we always do. It's always been a pleasure. We

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<v Speaker 1>will do it again next time because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us

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