1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren z mcomedy for the Home Office 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. They bill it as Television's biggest night 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: last night was the Emmys. I don't want to start 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: off on a negative note, but at one point last 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: night you did look at me and say, is TV dead? 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that goes along with the 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: moniker of TV's biggest night, but maybe that is the direction. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: More about the direction and the art direction and the 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: way they are giving us the Emmys as opposed to television, 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: because the thing is there's good TV out there, right, 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: But the way the Emmys were presented, it's almost as 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: if and this is what it might took away is 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: it was depressing in that I think the entire show 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: to me felt like an in memoriam. 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Yes, this is it's feeling old, it's feeling and it 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: is literally because in part, I don't know why we 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: keep doing tributes to things when we're alive and well 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: and making new content. So I remember, I believe it 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: was the Emmys last year they did these little vignettes 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: that were paying homage to iconic TV shows, And I 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: thought at the time that was because that was the 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: seventy fifth EMMIS if I'm remembering correct. 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got like the cast of Cheers together and 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: they recreated. 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: It and they recreated the sets and that was cute, 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: and Okay, it's we're celebrating an anniversary. I understand the 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: thought process. Now we're on the seventy six memis and 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: in the most Hollywood way, here's what we do. When 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: something works, we do it again. We're gonna give it 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: to you again. We're not going to be creative and 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: try something new. We're gonna give you the sequel of 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: the little segments. And this year they paid tribute to 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: just types of characters they got together, like, oh, these 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: were some TV doctors, these were some TV lawyers, these 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: were some TV but then also just the cast of 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: the West. 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: Wing I don't know. 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: The TV dads then was maybe the weirdest thing. They 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: got three really random TV days hearing the. 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: Trios were so random. Yeah, because it's like, who's going 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: to say yes to this? That's what it is. Who 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 3: can you get to say yes, we have this site, George. 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: Lopez, Jesse Tayler, Ferguson get them out of here, Like, 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: I don't understand why we were paying some kind of 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: tribute this year to just general characters like oh, a 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 4: dad on television. 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: I mean, that's still a thing. 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: There's still dads on TVs, and we're acting like it's 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: all times gone by, and it's really making the whole show, 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: the Emmys, and then in part the industry feel like 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: it's past. 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 3: It's not a good thing. 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway last night is if you watched, there 55 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: were some huge shows Showgun, Set Records, Bears. 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: And Showgun is a brand new show. It's its first season, 57 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: so we are not dead. Showgun was an amazing show. 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: I loved everything about it. You and I devoured that show, 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: and it rightfully won so many Emmys fourteen plus four 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: sixteen emmys. 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: You it's set records before we even got to last night. 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Because the case, TV is not dead. No, and Hacks 63 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: was was a uh a big winner, pleasant surprise last 64 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: night as the winner of Best Comedy. It surprised everybody 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: think God Bear didn't Well, I. 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: Was gonna surprised people, not because the show is not good. 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: Watch Hacks, everybody, I love Hacks, but because people thought 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: the Bear was gonna win. 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 3: That's the different topic we'll get in. 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I thought it didn't win, and we will discuss because 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: I actually love the show. But TV's not dead. There 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: are good shows. Maybe the networks aren't doing a very 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: good job of cultivating this and putting stuff on TV, 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: but there is great TV out there. Maybe some of 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: the best TV we've had in years is on streamers 76 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: right now, Hulu, Facts, you name it, all these all 77 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: these streamers are killing at Peacock. Even there was even 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: a new exciting reality show that got mentioned last night, 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: thank God, like Amazing Race RuPaul's Drag Race. 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: Like yeah, the Traders one Traders one awesome. 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: That that's just been on a couple of seasons and 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: so and that's on Peacock. And so the feel was 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: ABC screaming don't forget us. Remember when we made you 84 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: feel good seventeen years ago when West Wing was on, 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: and it just made me sad because I'm like, oh, 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: that cute kid do lay Hill. Oh he's a grown 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: ass man with kids and he has a beard. 88 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: Listen. I love Henry Lair and walk. 89 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Over and do the jukebox thing, and I love Henry Winkler. 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: And I love Ron Howard and they're both still you know, 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 2: working in talented and beyond incredible careers. 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: But why are we doing the Happy Days set tonight? 93 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: I love? 94 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: It made no sense, you know what? 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I love Henry Winkler for yes, I was old enough 96 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: to watch Happy Days. He's amazing in Barry, he was 97 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: so good as the theatrical coach for Bill Hayter and 98 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Barry like, he's done great TV in the last five years. 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: We don't need to harken back seventy five years to 100 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Happy Days. 101 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: And here's the thing, Like interestingly, and this is like 102 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: same but slightly offshoot of this conversation has won last Night. 103 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: And Paul w Down's one of the of acts who's 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: also so funny on the show, noted in the speech, Look, 105 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: it was hard for we didn't know we'd get this 106 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: show greenlit. The main character is a woman in her sixties. 107 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: And he said, he actually said, we have an aging population. 108 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: A big portion of our population is older, and we 109 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: need to make sure we pay. 110 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: Attention to them. 111 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: And it's a good point, Like and you just pointed 112 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: out there's probably a lot of older people. 113 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: Watching the show. 114 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: So I'm not sitting here saying like don't have older characters, 115 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: don't tell storylines about older people and being old isn't cool. 116 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. I'm saying, don't create. 117 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: An awards show where you're making your product look like 118 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: it's gone by and it's dead. 119 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: It looked the show smelled of mothballs. So and I agree, 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: by the way, don'ts like, don't throw away the past, 121 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: like I love paying homage, like putting out whatever, and 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: pair them with young and new. And I love hearing 123 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: some of the kind of the old stories. There's a 124 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: way to work it in. It just felt the nonsensical. Yeah, 125 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: the nonsensical of it and the rhythm of it was 126 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: really odd. 127 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: And while you are spotlighting older actors and older storylines, 128 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: that's great. You also you got to like nod to everybody. 129 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: You know, these shows are losing their new audiences. I 130 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: don't know many people. We were just at family weekend 131 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: at TCU. I don't know many college kids who watched 132 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: the Emmys last night. When I was in college, I 133 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: did watch those awards shows. 134 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: So, and it was like that for all the award shows, right, 135 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: I remember we all watched the Oscars. You watch the 136 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: Grammys and you know obviously all the ratings for all 137 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: these shows, and here's. 138 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: The key difference, and now I will kind of switch. 139 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: But another thing I think they did wrong last night 140 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 2: making the whole rhythm of the show. 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: Look our broad review. 142 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: You and I were watching it going I kept saying, 143 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: should we turn it off? 144 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: Should we turn it off? 145 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: And then you just feel like you got to finish, 146 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: and I knew we want I wanted to review it 147 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: having seen the whole thing, so I'm like, I'm a journalist, 148 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: I gotta do my research, and really watched the whole thing, 149 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: and it felt sleepy the whole time. 150 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: It felt just fine the whole time. Fine. 151 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: But one thing that I think threw off the rhythm 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: and where I think you're losing your maybe your new audience. 153 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: They can see all these celebrities on social media, right, 154 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: but one way that they cannot see them is in 155 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: these fun, heartfelt, potentially really funny award speeches where these 156 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: people are in a really key moment in their career 157 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: giving an awards. 158 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Stow, this was a good point last night you made. 159 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: And they are cutting people off. They've started doing this thing. 160 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if the same producer is producing these 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Awards shows lately. But the host comes out in the beginning, 162 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: chastises the audience and tells these nominees, if you get 163 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: up here, don't talk too long. We're gonna play you off. 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: Don't And you can see it. They get up there, 165 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: and I would love to know what the timer they're 166 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: given is. It feels like they're telling seconds. 167 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: It's forty five seconds, and that's from the moment they 168 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: stop on the stage. You could see the teleprompter in 169 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: the middle and the forty five second clock went on 170 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: last night, and they are getting kind of down. You 171 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: made a great point and I couldn't put my finger 172 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: on it last night. But and this is not on 173 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: the host. The levees got up and the Ship's creek. 174 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of Shit's Creek, then they were 175 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: hosting last night. They're trying something new. So it's like, okay, 176 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: let's get away from the Jimmy Kimmel's of the World 177 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: and the John Olivers because honestly, those shows are dead 178 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: now and going away and not many people are watching. 179 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: So let's try and maybe shift gears and breathe some 180 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: new life into this and get TV stars up there. 181 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: And so they did they tried it what they find 182 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: interesting and again not on the levees at all. When 183 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: they come out the host, whoever it is, and kill 184 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty minutes off the top of the show. 185 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: They have so much time there, and I'll due respect 186 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: to the levees, I could have cut that in half 187 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: or probably honestly done away with most all of it 188 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: off the top of the show, like, well you take 189 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: a bit, And they took the time from the stars 190 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: of Steve Martin and Martin Short and Meryl Streep and 191 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: all these you know, Jeremy from the Bear getting up. 192 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: It's like, all these stars are there, and like you said, 193 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: this is the one thing we can't get on social media, 194 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: this raw emotion. And the whole point is we have 195 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: stars in the room. Let them cook, no pun intended 196 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: to the bear. Let them cook, let them do their thing, 197 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: and you have admonished them. The show starting with admonishing 198 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: the biggest stars that you've come to honor and telling 199 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: them to shut up and get off stage and don't 200 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: speak their mind. 201 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: It is about them. 202 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I know it's about making an award 203 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: show that you're going to get advertising money for, but 204 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: the the magic in a bottle that you have. What 205 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: I remember from most most award shows over the years 206 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: is the speeches. 207 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: You are capturing. 208 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: Someone at a magical moment where they've achieved their dreams. 209 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: They're caught off guard, they'd been nervous about it, and 210 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: they are just getting up there and you're giving them 211 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: forty five seconds. I don't think I could make a 212 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: toast about my birthday this year. Well maybe, but you. 213 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying time And the worst part is 214 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: we imagine. 215 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: Thanking everyone in your life and career for one of 216 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: the biggest moments of your life, and you have forty 217 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: five seconds to do it and be funny and be 218 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: emotional and speak from the heart. 219 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, with a ginormous clock ticking down 220 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: and John Hamm and Meryl Streep staring at you like 221 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how nervous you are. 222 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: You feel it because every person gets up there and 223 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: this didn't used to happen in a word speeches and 224 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: the first thing they do is gough, okay, okay, okay, 225 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: And you're making some of the most talented people in 226 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: the world seem awkward and rushed, and you're killing the 227 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: vibe and instead we're getting these trios of TV doctor 228 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: and lawyer reunions for no reason. 229 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: I think we're god. I think we've really kind of 230 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: scraped back the scab on what's wrong with these show 231 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: because I think for a while they got so out 232 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: of control and they were so long and like, oh 233 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: these these speech is dron on. So I think the 234 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: pendulum has sw Yeah, we over corrected, as we tend 235 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: to do in America. We overcorrected and made it worse. 236 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: And now we have this show where the hosts take 237 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: up so much time and the stars are not getting 238 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: any time. And I've come to see the stars. For example, 239 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: the best example last night is Showgun one. I forget 240 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: which award this was for. Maybe it was at the 241 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: end when they won Best Drama Series and they got 242 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: up on stage and quickly killed their forty five seconds, 243 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: which is insane that the biggest award of the night 244 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: is Drama and Comedy Series and they finally win. All 245 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the stars get up there, the clock sticking down and 246 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: it's over, and they start playing the music and one 247 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: of the stars of the show got up and read 248 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: something in Japanese. I didn't read it. He gave his 249 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: speech in Japanese, and thank god somebody in the booth. 250 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: I give all credit to whoever the producer or director 251 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: is said to kill the music because it started playing, 252 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: they started playing them off, and instead what happened was 253 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: this guy gave an acceptance speech in Japanese and then 254 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: they gave it in English, and it was one of 255 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: the more kind of poignant, beautiful points of the entire night. 256 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: And that's something we wouldn't have had if we had 257 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: a thirty second clock. And I don't know if there 258 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: is a different design to this of Look, just tell 259 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: everybody you don't need to announce it. The hosts don't 260 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: need to come out and admonish people. It's not like 261 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: a debate where we have the rules of the debate. 262 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: Just let everybody know, Hey, we're going to let you go. 263 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: But around forty five seconds, fifty seconds, if it's droning on, 264 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: we're going to put up a clock. You have twenty 265 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: more seconds to. 266 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: Get Can I tell you right this up here's what 267 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: they should really be doing. 268 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: And it's going to get more subjective, but have. 269 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: Somebody with a good sense of how good it is 270 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: up there playing only certain people off or like give 271 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: more time and tell everybody in advance, give more time 272 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: to certain awards. Like I hate to say it, but 273 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: when you know the best I don't know when some 274 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: of them. When someone is we don't know who the 275 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: director is. We don't know the best director, and maybe 276 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: he's really funny and great. Sometimes they are at random, 277 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: but nobody knows who that is. But if it's not 278 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: going well, maybe you cut him off, or maybe those awards. 279 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: Get less time. But you're right, best drama, give them 280 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: a moment. 281 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: Big stars, When the biggest stars are on stage, you 282 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: have done your job. Congratulate because a lot of these 283 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: like one of the biggest problems with the Oscars is 284 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: there aren't big stars. You don't have big stars on stage. 285 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: A lot of the movies we haven't seen a lot 286 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: of the categories, we don't know the people. But the 287 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: Emmys and the Globes, I'll put you in here as well. 288 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: You've done it. You have got the biggest stars on stage. Boom, 289 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: you've won. Now let them cook. And what you're doing 290 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: is you've made them rattling nervous messes and they blubber 291 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: all over themselves and they stumble and they're nervous and 292 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: then they just jump off stage and it was funny 293 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: like who was it the cut? Oh my god, I'm blanking. 294 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: Who got back on stage? Thank god? Oh is the 295 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: guy from. 296 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: Richard gadd by Rainwah. 297 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: The guy from Baby Rainbeard. Thank god? He won several 298 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: awards because he was so nervous he forgot to think 299 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: his his parents and his wife and his kids, you know, 300 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: whatever it was. And it's like, oh, thank god I 301 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: won again. That was a big admission. 302 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, not his wife and his kids, but his parents. 303 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 2: He got up and he said, I'm like, yeah. 304 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: Glaring omission. Thank god I got it. 305 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: And he was one of my favorite And I do 306 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: want to give a shout out because these were some 307 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: of my I wrote down my favorite speeches of the night. 308 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: Richard gad Baby Reindeer. 309 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: Jean Smart from hacks Lamar and Morris of New Girl 310 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: won an award for Fargo, and he was so funny. 311 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: He said something about like he like slipped up what 312 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: he said. Then he said, sorry, sorry, I don't want 313 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: to talk about that. And I know where babies come from. 314 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: Like he was just being so natural and funny. Greg 315 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: Burlanty got a big Award, and I thought he was 316 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: really poignant. So there were some good speeches and it's 317 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: like I could have watched another minute of Lamar and 318 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: Morris up there. He's really funny and he was great 319 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: and he was having a moment where he like beat 320 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: Robert Downey JUNR and he said, dude, I got a 321 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: poster review sign it like, and he's interacting with everybody 322 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: and he's like Steve Martin sitting right here, and it 323 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: was great. 324 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: So give us more of that, Emmys. 325 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: We don't need the awkward bits. You know, it was 326 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: really awkward last night. And I love them both and 327 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: this is how I know it was awkward. And the 328 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: only reason this was pulled off is because she is brilliant. 329 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Jane Lynch. They did like two coaches from television and 330 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: they opened to a locker room. There's Jane Lynch and 331 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I forget the gentleman who's the assistant coach on Ted 332 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: Lasso next to rich Jason Sadeikis and like they do 333 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: this weird coaching bit and it was just like what, 334 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: like who thought? So you know what I don't need 335 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: is thirty seconds of a weird coaching bit. 336 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: It's not even the give it. 337 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: Give me Jane Lynch if it's Glee's fifteen year anniversary. 338 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It made no sense. 339 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: By the way, get Jane Lynch on stage and right cook. 340 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: She's brilliant, she's funny, like and I get maybe they're like, look, 341 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: we can only have so many presenters, so we have 342 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: to inject people elsewhere. And maybe, you know, I don't 343 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: have the answer for that, but that isn't the answer. 344 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Hearkening back to the good old days. Throughout this show, 345 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: it just it felt so sad and it made me 346 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: depressed in like it didn't make me reminisce. I guess. 347 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: So I thought. Overall the hosts, yeah, we're fine. 348 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: I miss big moments like when Neil Patrick Harris used 349 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: to do big musical moments that was really fun. 350 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: I don't think we didn't really start with anything huge. 351 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: And I don't know. 352 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm a musical theater kid, but I was taught open 353 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: with a song, and with a song, it makes people 354 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: feel good. 355 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: That's true. 356 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: I think maybe the most hot, maybe the most like, 357 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: let's just be honest about how mad people are about 358 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: this moment of the night. 359 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah was the bear winning stuff? 360 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're a fan, but I'm going to read 361 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: one tweet that caught my eye. 362 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm a fan, but I am again, I'm not in 363 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: an echo chamber. I am open enough to realize that 364 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: this is a travesty that they were considered a comedy. 365 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: So that's the big debate, right is The Bear nominated 366 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: for multiple but in the comedy categories. And I think 367 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: the first season it kind of got away with it. 368 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: People were raising questions like is it really a comedy? 369 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: But I feel like the first season The Bear had 370 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: kind of some funnier, wilder moments, but it's gotten more 371 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: and more drama e and now people are like, Okay. 372 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Not only is it a drama, it's darker than Showgun, 373 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: really some of the darkest dramas. It's about mental health, 374 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: it's about suicide, it's about it. It's not even a drama. 375 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: It's a very dark, heavy drama. 376 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: And when you saw those people, I feel like tonight 377 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: last night, this year's awards show, was the shift where 378 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: people are going to start talking about how they're mad 379 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: about it because you saw some of the winners from 380 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: The Bear going up last night and the other the 381 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: people nominated in the comedy categories. 382 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: You could feel the tension. 383 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: Somebody tweeted, the Bear is committing voter fraud and stealing 384 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: the Emmys. 385 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: Oh that's good, And I think, I don't know if 386 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: this is real. 387 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: Somebody sent me a tweet last night from the mom 388 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: of Hannah Einbinder. 389 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: I think is Einbender? How you say your last name? 390 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: From Hacks? 391 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: And she didn't win, and somebody said this is her 392 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: mom and she tweeted f the Bear because. 393 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: She's on the show Hacks, which is a comedy on 394 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: Avid Elementary. There are some really really good comedies out there. 395 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 5: And again, I'm glad Hacks won. And I don't know 396 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 5: maybe if that was a because the Emmys we do 397 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 5: vote on ourselves, as you know, Academy members or you 398 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 5: know sag Affter members. We vote amongst ourselves. 399 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: So I'm glad. Look, I'm glad that the Bear won 400 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: because it is a terrific show. It's great writing, it's phenomenal. 401 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 3: But this is what this is the issue. 402 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: But I've never left once in the history of that show, honestly, 403 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: and I'm not show. I've never left. There was not 404 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: a joke on the show. There's nothing funny about it 405 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: there it doesn't even remotely dance around that line of comedy. 406 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: Like honestly, the Sopranos that was funny. The Sopranos made 407 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: really light they they you know, amongstilling people. The Sopranos 408 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of danced that line of like it's kind of funny. 409 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: The Bear is dark. Wow, I mean there's like when 410 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: you're and hopefully people will comment on this. If you 411 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: binge watch The Bear, you got to take breaks. It's 412 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: that heavy. 413 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: I had to. 414 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: Stop watching it because, look, I'm from Chicago, and there 415 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: are some accurate Chicago things about it, like I do 416 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: argue with my family, but. 417 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: It's non stop. I was like, I'm getting a headache 418 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 3: watching this show. They fight so much. So that's why 419 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: I stopped watching. 420 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: And it is a beautiful show. And again I'm I'm 421 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: a fan. I'm a big fan because I love the 422 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: culinary world, I love the actors, actresses. It's a phenomenal show. 423 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: I just I'm even I was a little put off, 424 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: like this, this shouldn't be and the problem is it's 425 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: that's hurting TV. Like the battle last night would have 426 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: been the Bear versus Showgun. That would have been a 427 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: kick ass Emmy's Battle. 428 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: Oh, you're right, they're robbing themselves of headlines. 429 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Comedy Battle because but the problem 430 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: was everyone went in knowing the Bear is probably gonna 431 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: win and it's going to be annoying. 432 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: But you're right, there's so there's actually. 433 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: Really good comedies again right now, like Abbot, Elementary, like Hacks, 434 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: And that's frustrating, and I think it speaks to the 435 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: reality that Hacks won Best Comedy. They're giving the people 436 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: on the Bear the acting. They're awarding them because the 437 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: acting is amazing, but it's not a comedy. Hacks still 438 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: won Best Comedy. So we got to figure that out. 439 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: And I'm being serious. I think like people were annoyed 440 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: last night and it was robbing really really good Awards moments. 441 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: It like, we got to figure it out. Rob this 442 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: Awards moments. 443 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: It's just on an election. Here, can we figure out 444 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: the bear being nominated as a comedy. 445 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: It was just simple. It's just like if they applied 446 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: for comany're like, you're not a comedy at all remotely. 447 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: But overall, the funny thing is, and Laura and I 448 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: watched this last night, but grudgingly because there was a 449 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: great football game on last night, and I know Lauren 450 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: wanted to watch that. Okay, it was your Chicago Bears. 451 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: But but no, in all seriousness, this is our business. 452 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: You know. I'm literally sitting below your Emmy right here, 453 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: Emmy Award winning Entertainment reporter, Launa. But we do. We 454 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: love this industry, and it's an industry we're still very 455 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: much involved in at Merritt Street and producing TV. And 456 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: we love this business and we love creating TV. We 457 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: love watching TV, we love discussing TV. We want it 458 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: to be good. I want the Emmys to not suck. 459 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: That would be wonderful. It felt so dated and sad 460 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: last night, and it's TV is in a good place. 461 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: We have to evolve or die. Television has evolved. The 462 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: streamers are banging. Let's go, let's move on, let's embrace 463 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: what's going on, and let's embrace these new actors, these 464 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: new actresses, these new comedians we have. There are so 465 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: many great comics in the world right now. Let them 466 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: get on stage and do their thing. I think there 467 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: is this old school, this old guard, and maybe it's 468 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: the people that produce the show that are so old 469 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and holding on for dear life. That they're just like 470 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: you get in this ride, this writer's room of let's 471 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: do a great modern, innovative show, and they're like, well, 472 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: let's bring the cast to the love boat together. 473 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: Well see that and you just hit it. That's really 474 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: my overall thing last night. Nothing innovative, nothing new, Like, 475 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: on the one hand, it's an awards show. On the 476 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: other hand, try some big things, take some big swings. 477 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: Because your numbers are down, right. 478 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? Yeah, what's gonna happen? Right? This is 479 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: what ratings suck. The ratings are already gonna suck. 480 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: This is when you take a risk, and this is 481 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: when you innovate. This is when you go outside the box. 482 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: And I think maybe it's what they think is innovating, 483 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: but it was. Instead it's exactly that. It's well, let's 484 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: just go back to what people know. Let's bring out 485 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: TV doctors and lawyers. 486 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: Now, I will amend one thing. 487 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: Apparently it was the West Wings twenty fifth anniversary, so 488 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 2: that is why they got the West Wing. But you know, 489 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: like bringing new people in, giving them, injecting new life. 490 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: I'll go back to the awards show speech thing. Briefly, 491 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: the lead actress who went on Shogun last night. She 492 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: was played off so quickly. You could have created a 493 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: new star there. You could have given her a few 494 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: more minutes and really on a big platform, created a 495 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: whole new a lister there. And maybe you did a 496 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: little bit, but give her the moment because we need 497 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: a new era of stars. We were watching them age 498 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: before us. 499 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Our intrepid producer Chrissy just sent this. This is actually 500 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: really good. 501 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: And by the way, welcome Chrissy, she's new on the team. 502 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: CHRISI welkom to the family. But Indie Wire Headline put 503 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: this out. The Emmys could have been an email surprise 504 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: winners and solid speeches. There is spice up a telecast 505 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: that felt more perfunctory than celebratory, let alone entertaining. 506 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: You know what tells you there's something wrong with the 507 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: formula two. We were watching some really talented people last night. 508 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, not be that good at what they do. 509 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: I know, like. 510 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: Steve Martin and Martin Short and Selena Gomez only murders 511 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: in the building. They got up and did a little 512 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: something and it was it was pretty funny. But even 513 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: they had a few little timing issues and there were 514 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: some other people who got up and literally it was 515 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: like like the always Sunny in Philadelphia pair. They were 516 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: kind of funny, but I'm like, they're way funnier on 517 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: their show. There's something about the way we do this 518 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: and these little bits we try to make in these 519 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: the scriptedness, and whoever is maybe green lighting things in 520 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: the writer's room. As you said, we're not letting people 521 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: do their thing in the right way, and you're making 522 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: really talented people. 523 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: Like look average. Yeah, and these are I mean, like 524 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: you said, if it wasn't for the brilliance of Jane Lynch, 525 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the brilliance of Steve Martin Martin Short, 526 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: like just because they're so good at what they do, 527 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: they pulled off. But it was still only fun. I mean, 528 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: they were just pulling it off. They weren't great. 529 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: That Online's right. It could have been an email. We're 530 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: getting Martin and Martin Short writing an email. I want 531 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: to get them doing their stand up, you know what 532 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 533 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's And I know these shows 534 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 1: are hard. I have actually been a part of some 535 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: of these before, and I get it. These are it's 536 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: hard to get all these people together. It's a lot 537 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: of moving parts. It's a tough room. But my god, 538 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: when you have that much talent and then, like you said, 539 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: the talent was not on display last night, And that's 540 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: the crazy part, and that I think is the biggest abomination, 541 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: is that you have so much talent and the talent 542 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: is not allowed to perform and it's not being showcased. 543 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 3: So well, so. 544 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: Look, we started this and we will end it with 545 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: the same question. Is television dead? No? Did the Emmys 546 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: make it feel that way? Yes, But to the contrary, 547 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: the industry we love and adore and have dedicated our 548 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: professional lives to is I would say, more alive than ever, 549 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: And that maybe was the biggest frustration. Television is not 550 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: only not dead, it's thriving. We just need the Emmys 551 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: to understand that and join us. 552 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: I think maybe a subtle difference is I actually thought 553 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: the other day I was going to text some I 554 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: was going to text Taylor, our daughter, I'm going to 555 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: watch TV. And I thought, you know, she doesn't really 556 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: say that. She's like, I'm gonna go watch this show. 557 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go watch Netflix. We don't all just younger 558 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: people don't just sit and go watch TV anymore. But 559 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: they do watch shows, and we need this Awards show 560 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: about shows to catch up with the vibe and stop 561 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: making people feel like they're just flipping through the TV channels. 562 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Amen, thank you guys, Thank you guys and Emmys. You 563 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: have a year here on the clock. Just like you 564 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: put your your speakers on the clock, you are on 565 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: the clock. You got twelve months to make it better. 566 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: And we'll try and do better for you next time, 567 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: as we always do. It's always been a pleasure. We 568 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: will do it again next time because we have a 569 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us 570 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram at the most Dramatic pod ever and make 571 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. 572 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next time.