Speaker 1: So, Harry, I'm happy to see you.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, I saw you right before the pandemic. I
Speaker 1: believe January of last year you stopped by the Wrestling Universe.
Speaker 1: Was it something like that, Yeah, Jack Sabbath, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: so Shane and I got to chit chat with you
Speaker 1: there for a long It's greatful.
Speaker 2: Oh that was not January. I think that was before.
Speaker 1: That was No, that was my last signing. It was
Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty. Okay, that was the last signing
Speaker 1: I did in person, and I saw you there. I
Speaker 1: was happy to see you because it had a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's start with this. What have you been up
Speaker 1: to lately?
Speaker 2: Sitting in the same chair I'm talking to you now
Speaker 2: for the last year.
Speaker 1: Well, besides that working on music? Are you a real job?
Speaker 1: Like what's going on in the world.
Speaker 2: Prior to the pandemic. I was about to start rehearsals.
Speaker 2: I had about a dozen shows booked for last year.
Speaker 2: I was going to be getting on the Newport Folk Festival,
Speaker 2: which is a really really big music event up at Newport,
Speaker 2: Rhode Island, and then it all disappeared. So I, like
Speaker 2: everybody else in my universe, have been writing this out
Speaker 2: most of the people I know or in the entertainment
Speaker 2: world in some form or another, and it all came
Speaker 2: to a crashing hal last February, last March. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of my friends are not doing so well.
Speaker 2: I I'm okay for the time being. I could ride
Speaker 2: this out for another six months to a year if
Speaker 2: I have to, but others can't.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Right now, New York is trying to figure things out.
Speaker 2: I believe live entertainment will start shortly, but at like
Speaker 2: minimum capacity, which trying to do a live show with
Speaker 2: twenty five percent capacity, you're just bleeding money. You're not
Speaker 2: making any money. You're losing money. You know. As far
Speaker 2: as recording studios, that came to the grinding hole too,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the higher end studios will only
Speaker 2: take one client day and you're paying for like twelve
Speaker 2: hours but only working for eight because the first two
Speaker 2: and last two they dedicate to completely sanitizing the place.
Speaker 2: And even still, my good friend, my my saxophone player
Speaker 2: did a session and he got COVID Wow, even though
Speaker 2: he was the only person in the booth. You know,
Speaker 2: it may have been from the session, it may not
Speaker 2: have been but he was super careful and then the
Speaker 2: next thing you know, he spent about like a week
Speaker 2: and a half in the hospital.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow. You know, as far as I know, the apes
Speaker 2: haven't started talking yet, so you know, as soon as
Speaker 2: that happens, I'm done, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: Well are you still with the Slash Tunes?
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, the Slash Tones is basically anybody I'm playing
Speaker 2: with at that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just rotate and yeah, yeah, going on like
Speaker 1: thirty different people in and out of that band at
Speaker 1: one point or another. Yeah. Right, So I met you
Speaker 1: obviously through eth W. Yeah, you were friends with Paul Haman. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How did your friendship with him come about? Like? Where
Speaker 1: did you meet Paul? I know, I know the story,
Speaker 1: but people don't. I want people to know how you
Speaker 1: got into this wacky world, Professor I met.
Speaker 2: I met Paul Hayman waiting online to use the bathroom
Speaker 2: at the China Club, Okay, and had absolutely no idea
Speaker 2: who he was or what he did for a living
Speaker 2: because I wasn't watching wrestling back then.
Speaker 1: Now, what year was this.
Speaker 2: Ninety?
Speaker 1: Okay? So was he in WCW at the time?
Speaker 2: Probably? Honestly, I yes, yes, I think he was in
Speaker 2: WC wherever it was that he won the Manager of
Speaker 2: the Year award for Pro Wrestling Illustrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I think it was WC Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably WCW because there was one time
Speaker 2: at the Limelight. You know, I'd been channel surf, you know,
Speaker 2: hitting the clicker, and you know, I came across some
Speaker 2: wrestling thing that I thought was complete. Three stooges, goofy,
Speaker 2: and then that Sunday night at the Limelight, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I saw this stupid thing. This one guy with a
Speaker 2: tennis racket, this other guy would a cell phone and
Speaker 2: they had this stupid fencing match. It was hysterical. It
Speaker 2: was him that I was talking about, but I didn't
Speaker 2: realize it was.
Speaker 1: Him, right. Did he take offense to that?
Speaker 2: No? He thought it was great because I was actually
Speaker 2: one of the few people within the club world that
Speaker 2: treated him like a person and not like poly dangerously.
Speaker 2: I just knew Paul, right, I didn't know what a
Speaker 2: Polly dangerously was.
Speaker 1: How did you know You're waiting to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: like do you go, you do your duty, you come
Speaker 1: out and you see him again, and you just strake
Speaker 1: up a conversation.
Speaker 2: Actually, no, okay, all right, it's been a long time,
Speaker 2: so I might as well talk about this. I wasn't
Speaker 2: going into the bathroom to use the bathroom. I was
Speaker 2: going into the bathroom to take a couple of hits
Speaker 2: upot okay. And he was online behind me, and I'm like, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: if you need to piss ahead, I'm not gonna pee,
Speaker 2: you know, but don't get weird on me or anything,
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of you.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so he's like, well, I don't really need
Speaker 2: to pee either, and we ended up in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a cocaine drug thing. It was I just
Speaker 2: wanted to smoke weed and he wanted to smoke a
Speaker 2: little of his own thing. And I opened up. I
Speaker 2: had a secrets ten, you know, the cough drop ten. Yes,
Speaker 2: that I kept the pot in. And he describes it
Speaker 2: like the briefcase in pulp fiction where you open it
Speaker 2: up and light emanas from it, Like his eyes lit up.
Speaker 2: It's like, what is that? Trees? And we smoked a
Speaker 2: couple of bowls and then we hung out and the
Speaker 2: next thing, I know, every time I go to it
Speaker 2: like the Limelight or the China Club or one of
Speaker 2: those really cool clubs that no longer exist there he was,
Speaker 2: so for couple of years, I'd be hanging out with
Speaker 2: the guy three nights a week. Had no idea what
Speaker 2: he did for a living, but because of the way
Speaker 2: people treated him, I thought he was either like a
Speaker 2: restaurant owner, a mobster, a drug dealer, pornographer, And it
Speaker 2: turns out he was a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of all of them, we come to find out right.
Speaker 3: Very hard to believe, by the way, with all the
Speaker 3: posters and pictures behind you, that you would partake in
Speaker 3: such debauchery in the bathroom there.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so you mean to tell me that you
Speaker 1: hang out with Paul all this time and his wrestling
Speaker 1: never pops up to you, not at all.
Speaker 2: There was one time I dropped a friend off at
Speaker 2: LaGuardia Airport and she was heading to Florida. I as
Speaker 2: I'm leaving the terminal, he's walking in. He's going on
Speaker 2: the same flight because it was a connecting flight in Atlanta, Okay,
Speaker 2: And like, Hey, what are you doing here? He's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm going down to Atlanta, Atlanta. What the hell are
Speaker 2: you going on? Atlanta? For and that's when he remembered
Speaker 2: I didn't know what he did. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: he did for a living. He's like, oh, I got
Speaker 2: a parking ticket down there. I'm like, can't you just
Speaker 2: mail it in?
Speaker 1: And he's even bullshitting you now, not.
Speaker 2: Really bullshitting me. It's like he didn't see a reason
Speaker 2: to bring it up.
Speaker 1: I guess he was bullshitting it.
Speaker 2: Probably Probably guy really had no idea what he did
Speaker 2: for a living. It was just some cool dude I'd
Speaker 2: like to hang out with.
Speaker 1: So what happens when you find out like are you
Speaker 1: like taking aback?
Speaker 4: Are you like what?
Speaker 1: Because it's it's a.
Speaker 2: Weird, you know, it's very weird considering all the other
Speaker 2: promoters would be like, hey, Paulie, here's some drink tickets.
Speaker 2: So I figured, all right, this guy's a wise guy.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make a difference to me. There's a club event.
Speaker 2: I forget what they renamed the club, but it was
Speaker 2: a very famous club in New York called Octagon, and
Speaker 2: I knew the promoters in there, and they had a
Speaker 2: whole bunch. It was like three floors, so they had
Speaker 2: all sorts of events. They had a fashion show, they
Speaker 2: had a jam session. They had this going on, that
Speaker 2: going on, and then the presentation of the Manager of
Speaker 2: the Year award to Paul Dangerously. That's great. I didn't
Speaker 2: go for the Polly Dangerously thing. I went because all
Speaker 2: my friends were in the in the band that were playing.
Speaker 2: So I get to the club, I go up to
Speaker 2: the VIP room and there's Paul hanging out, but this
Speaker 2: time he's not wearing cowboy boots and jeans and a
Speaker 2: leather jacket. He's in a suit. I didn't think much
Speaker 2: of it. He's like, what are you doing here? It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I came for the jam to support Matt and Steve,
Speaker 2: who were the promoters, and there's some stupid wrestling thing
Speaker 2: going on. I check that effect my exact words. About
Speaker 2: an hour later, I go back up to the VIP room.
Speaker 2: They've got a six foot toll projection screen showing the
Speaker 2: best of Polly Dangerously.
Speaker 1: And that's when it clicks for you.
Speaker 2: Not yet, look at you. I look at Paul to
Speaker 2: get hit ahead.
Speaker 4: With the ass that's the pot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I look at the screen, I look at Paul,
Speaker 2: I look back at the screen. I look back at Paul,
Speaker 2: and the first thought that came into my mind is, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: my friend is one of those freaks that dresses up
Speaker 2: like pro wrestlers.
Speaker 1: So you're just thinking in your head he looks like
Speaker 1: poly dangerously.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking he's a cosplayer.
Speaker 1: Oh dear god, Harry.
Speaker 2: I didn't It didn't really click. And then he comes up.
Speaker 2: He puts his arm around my shoulder. He's like, so,
Speaker 2: who is that handsome guy on the screen. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's you. That's what you do for a living. Finally, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool. I don't know what to.
Speaker 1: Say them after you called him an idiot forty times
Speaker 1: and didn't know it.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: It was another time I was trying to do this
Speaker 2: thing at the Ritz where I was telling him the
Speaker 2: idea of putting a ferris wheel inside of a club
Speaker 2: and like all sorts of weird stuff, and I kept
Speaker 2: telling him about this stand up comedy routine about the
Speaker 2: invisible wrestler, and it just didn't click. I wasn't watching
Speaker 2: wrestling at the time, yeah, you know, and when I
Speaker 2: when I would be channel surfing, it would be you know,
Speaker 2: in the distance on a small screen. So it's not
Speaker 2: like he was that recognizable. You know. We didn't have
Speaker 2: high definition back in there.
Speaker 1: You see him in this room, you know they're giving
Speaker 1: an award out and then you think he's cosplaying kind
Speaker 1: of one Harry, you're smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, but it just two and two didn't
Speaker 2: make that up to four at that moment because I
Speaker 2: was out with the guy for a while, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a clue that he was involved in that.
Speaker 1: So so you're friends with him when he jumps over
Speaker 1: to easy Dub at this point, Yes, you're aware of
Speaker 1: everything that's going on because you I remember you. I mean,
Speaker 1: were you there from the get go when he came in?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, You guys were running primarily out of Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Philly, New York, New Jersey.
Speaker 2: You hadn't really broken into New York yet, not Where Island,
Speaker 2: not New York City. I guess it was upstate. But
Speaker 2: I kept getting invitations through Mike Lawler, who you guys
Speaker 2: all called spider Man. He's one of the guys I
Speaker 2: work with in the band, and he kept giving the invitations.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go to wrestling. The last time
Speaker 2: I watched wrestling, Bruno permed his hair, became the commentator,
Speaker 2: and I was done with it. Plus I didn't have
Speaker 2: cable for the longest time, so that whole eighties boom,
Speaker 2: the rock and wrestling thing, the five days a week
Speaker 2: on cable, I didn't have any of that. So it
Speaker 2: was totally totally out of it. And I'd be getting
Speaker 2: the invitations to go to like Bethlehem and Allan toown
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, and I would use the excuse that my
Speaker 2: bron I had an old Bronco that had three hundred
Speaker 2: thousand miles on it. Literally, yeah, I said it wouldn't
Speaker 2: make it. So I get a phone call from him.
Speaker 2: It's on a Friday. He's like, hey, I want you
Speaker 2: to come to the show. I said, dude, my car
Speaker 2: won't make it to Pennsylvania. He goes, the show's on
Speaker 2: Queens Boulevard. It's ten minutes from your house. Lost Battalion, Oh.
Speaker 1: Lost Batalion Hall. Okay, okay, it's.
Speaker 2: Ten minutes from your house. I'll send a cab. I said, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll come to see your show. What time
Speaker 2: does it start. He's like, it's from eight to eleven.
Speaker 2: So I showed up at ten forty five.
Speaker 1: Okay, as much I didn't really want.
Speaker 2: To see it. Well, I didn't really pay attention. It
Speaker 2: wasn't my cup of tea at the time, until I
Speaker 2: finally caught the ECW television show at like two in
Speaker 2: the morning, and I'm like, okay, this isn't the cartoony
Speaker 2: stuff that now. That totally turned me off to it,
Speaker 2: and I came out to see the first show. From
Speaker 2: beginning to end was out in Long Island. I want
Speaker 2: to say, Deer Park, Yeah, okay, And I had no
Speaker 2: idea who anybody was, so I kept saying, who do
Speaker 2: I cheer for? Is what I kept asking him. It's like,
Speaker 2: whoever you want. During the night, there was a brawl
Speaker 2: with the Dudleys and I forget who else, but it
Speaker 2: was Big Dick Dudley, Alex Yeah, and Primo Carnera, the
Speaker 2: third who was there at Big Wuido. I think you guys.
Speaker 1: Called him Yeah, probably Okay.
Speaker 2: So they're outside of the main area and there's like
Speaker 2: a section that's like separated with plexiglass wall plexiglass windows,
Speaker 2: and Alex is banging Primo in one and he's banging
Speaker 2: him in the other. There was one that was actual glass,
Speaker 2: and Alex banged Primo through the plate glass and the
Speaker 2: glass went flying everywhere and I'm like, okay, this is
Speaker 2: definitely not cartoons. No, this is cool. And then the
Speaker 2: next thing after that was the gangstas okay, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is crazy, this is sick, this is demented, this
Speaker 2: is dangerous. I can get into this.
Speaker 1: I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. And then I think I came
Speaker 2: up to I went to someplace upstate fairgrounds. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: forget what town it was where I saw another show
Speaker 2: from beginning to end, and that was more of the insanity.
Speaker 2: And then I finally went out to the arena for
Speaker 2: the first time and I'm like, okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: In Okay, I'm here. So with your musical background, did
Speaker 1: you pitch to do stuff for us? It was Paul okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, if I was around before I ever did music,
Speaker 2: if you remember production, and then during the week, Paul
Speaker 2: would get me to do stuff like get an ad
Speaker 2: in the daily news and little stuff like that. It
Speaker 2: wasn't until the crossover with WWF at the Manhattan Center,
Speaker 2: which was before the barely legal pay per view. So okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: February of ninety seven. If I'm not they needed clones
Speaker 2: of what the guys were using because Taz was using
Speaker 2: a song by Kiss, Tommy was using Man in the Box,
Speaker 2: Damn Man was using Metallica so on, and we're.
Speaker 1: Getting away with it forever. Yeah, which blew my mind.
Speaker 2: But for Vince's TV, he needed soundlikes. Okay, Now, this
Speaker 2: is the Monday before the show that he calls me up.
Speaker 2: At the time, I had an office. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to get into it. I was I was a in
Speaker 2: a legitimate universe at that time, okay. And he calls
Speaker 2: me up and he's like, I need this, this, and this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no idea what you're talking about. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: I need you know how in WCW Diamond Dallas page
Speaker 2: comes out to Nirvana, but it's I don't know. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't have a clue. So I said, hold on.
Speaker 2: I went there was I forget if it was Tower
Speaker 2: Records or whatever it was. When they still had CD stores.
Speaker 2: I went to the store a couple of blocks away
Speaker 2: on thirty fourth Street in Manhattan, and I bought whatever
Speaker 2: wrestling CDs they had, and I went back and I
Speaker 2: listened to them, like went through them in the office.
Speaker 2: I called Paul back up. I said dude, this is garbage.
Speaker 2: There's like two parts in a song if they get
Speaker 2: to a B or a change, and it's just a riff.
Speaker 2: And this is what you want. He goes, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what I need. Can you do it? I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll need a couple of weeks. He goes, I need
Speaker 2: it by Monday.
Speaker 1: There, I need it.
Speaker 4: In forty five minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, a three minute song takes a lot longer
Speaker 2: than three minutes to record.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does four minutes. Jop it down.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I got to write the tune and
Speaker 2: I gotta find the band, so you'll do it, right,
Speaker 2: you can do it?
Speaker 3: Let me, can I stump in for a second. So
Speaker 3: you listen to the music that was out of the time.
Speaker 3: They'd only published a few CDs at that point, and
Speaker 3: it's really very basic and a lot of the songs
Speaker 3: do sound nearly identical. So right, your expert ear you
Speaker 3: hear that, and you're like, this is like this is
Speaker 3: a walk in the park for what I could do.
Speaker 2: Basically, it's you know, three out of four bars, you know,
Speaker 2: as long as the fourth bar doesn't sound exactly like
Speaker 2: another song, and then you're not technically ripping somebody off,
Speaker 2: you're creating a sound alike. You know, Tommy Dreamer, every
Speaker 2: company he's worked for has made a sound alike of
Speaker 2: Man in the Box. You know, there's like five different
Speaker 2: versions out there, including one that I did. So, you know,
Speaker 2: because of scheduling, I was able to put a band together,
Speaker 2: which was some pretty badass players. It was Richie Scarlett
Speaker 2: and Steve Budgie from the Ace Freely Band, and a
Speaker 2: currently Grammy Award winning producer named Eddie Wall who produced
Speaker 2: El Nino in Primer fifty five later on, and we
Speaker 2: booked twenty four hours in Eddie's studio in Yonkers or
Speaker 2: Mount Vernon, I forget where he lived at the time.
Speaker 2: I went in there at nine o'clock on a Saturday
Speaker 2: and came home nine thirty on a Sunday. Wow, And
Speaker 2: in twenty four hours, myself and these the warriors that
Speaker 2: I had, for lack of a better term, cranked out
Speaker 2: about four or five tunes that were pretty terrible, but
Speaker 2: that's what they wanted.
Speaker 1: Fit right in now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then we had the Manhattan Center and you know,
Speaker 2: I showed up with the dat tapes. There was no
Speaker 2: CD burners yet, you know CD burners hadn't made their way.
Speaker 2: If you wanted a CD of something, you had to
Speaker 2: pay forty five dollars a CD at that point. Well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I went to the Manhattan Center with the DAT
Speaker 2: tapes and was trying to get a sound check from
Speaker 2: them because quite literally, you know, this stuff had just
Speaker 2: barely been mixed, it hadn't been mastered, And instead I
Speaker 2: ended up playing Jim Rummy with the Undertaker and eating
Speaker 2: catering from over Hey.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 3: So the songs they played at the Manhattan Center that
Speaker 3: night for the ECW guys was you yes, and you
Speaker 3: could tell. You could tell because it was distinctly different.
Speaker 3: And I remember the show very well. We talked about
Speaker 3: it a lot because somebody else on the call wasn't
Speaker 3: at that show. But you know, the music really was different.
Speaker 3: But I think they ended up using the Dreamer music
Speaker 3: for Sandman when Sandman came through the crowd, so you
Speaker 3: could just tell there was something a little different than
Speaker 3: the WWF touch at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad they didn't use the Sandman music for
Speaker 2: Sandman because that was, oh lord awful, that was absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1: Well, I I didn't watch it because Shane Douglas would
Speaker 1: not let me go. Yeah, so I was bitter and
Speaker 1: refuse to watch it. I was so mad. So so
Speaker 1: you do the music for them?
Speaker 2: When don I thought I was done at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when when does it come to you? Or
Speaker 1: when does Paul actually say, hey, you know we're using
Speaker 1: all of this music like we were using Thunderkiss sixty
Speaker 1: five I think as our opening music. The when does
Speaker 1: when does he come to you and say, Harry, what
Speaker 1: what can you do? Does he suggest that you do it?
Speaker 1: Or does the light bulb click and you could do
Speaker 1: something cool? It was Taz as.
Speaker 2: Brother, I like this, I want to use it all
Speaker 2: the time, And I was like.
Speaker 1: No, the music from New York. In New York, oh okay, okay.
Speaker 2: As like what I did better than what he was using.
Speaker 2: But what I did needed some serious work. There were
Speaker 2: a lot of bad notes, attitude and guitars, bad mistakes.
Speaker 2: With such a limited time to work, I figured, you
Speaker 2: know it's going to be on in the background, people
Speaker 2: be screaming, the announcers will talk, nobody will notice. When
Speaker 2: Taz wanted to use it full time, I said, I
Speaker 2: got to go back in the studio and make it right.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a couple of things on there
Speaker 2: that I'm not happy about. So I did that and
Speaker 2: that became his theme right with Paul's blessing. Of course
Speaker 2: he had to approve it, and because Taz and Perry
Speaker 2: Saturn worked together at the school, it became a politics
Speaker 2: thing where if Taz has his own music, then Perry
Speaker 2: Saturn has to have his own music.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now you're doing songs individually for the boys
Speaker 1: who's coming to you and asking for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still not something I expected to be an
Speaker 2: ongoing thing. You know, Harry Saturn wanted this, you know,
Speaker 2: elements of this song and that song, and he wanted
Speaker 2: it to be robotic and kind of like future Terminators
Speaker 2: type of thing. So we came up with total elimination.
Speaker 2: And then along comes the pay per view and granted
Speaker 2: again a week before the show. I need this, I
Speaker 2: need this, and I need this. Poul, you got to
Speaker 2: be kidding me. No, you'll do it right. You're giving
Speaker 2: me three days. You'll do it right.
Speaker 1: Don't you regret going in the bathroom that night with Oh.
Speaker 2: God, I should have just gotten high in the parking
Speaker 2: lot for God's sake.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I loved our theme. I loved. I absolutely
Speaker 1: loved it. And to this day, the network now Peacock,
Speaker 1: they use the most ridiculous music. And I mean, don't
Speaker 1: they own your stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why are they? Do you have any.
Speaker 2: I've never gotten the network. I will not get Peacock,
Speaker 2: So I couldn't answer what they're using. I have no clue.
Speaker 1: I don't understand that they had the whole library of
Speaker 1: your stuff at their feet and they're not using any
Speaker 1: of it from.
Speaker 2: What I'm talking. Wouldn't answer why they're not are they're
Speaker 2: not even using the UCW theme.
Speaker 3: I don't watch on the later shows that it's that
Speaker 3: it was used on, Yes, but if you go back
Speaker 3: to ninety five ninety six, it is just piped in
Speaker 3: you know, musac very parrible.
Speaker 2: This didn't mean so it would be anything after ninety
Speaker 2: seven because it didn't exist before that.
Speaker 4: Right, But you would think that they could just you know,
Speaker 4: move it.
Speaker 1: Over that instead of using the generic elevator music that
Speaker 1: they're using. Why wouldn't they use the library that you
Speaker 1: provided them.
Speaker 2: I have no clue. I got some DVDs from them,
Speaker 2: you know, they were supposed to send me everything. They
Speaker 2: used my stuff, and on one of the DVD's that
Speaker 2: they have Taz's music they overdubbed their own music.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, remember that.
Speaker 2: I'm like this, why would you spend the money and
Speaker 2: the time when you own it.
Speaker 1: That's that's my point. That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Like they have all this stuff and they're not using it.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't And it was good. I loved the
Speaker 1: ECW theme. Like that to me when I hear that
Speaker 1: to this day, this is so corny, but I get
Speaker 1: like goosebumps because I just remember. But I remember being
Speaker 1: at shows and hearing us play that, and I knew, okay,
Speaker 1: we're starting, it's time, we're gonna work, We're gonna like
Speaker 1: it brings me back years since being a performer and
Speaker 1: here like that song told me, Okay, this show's about
Speaker 1: to start. We're gonna do this, and it used to
Speaker 1: get me pumped up. You know, I loved it. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was so well done and it just
Speaker 1: fits perfectly.
Speaker 2: Thank you, you know, Just just so you know, I've
Speaker 2: I've mentioned this on other interviews. The inspiration for the
Speaker 2: e c W theme came from the theme from Jaws.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 4: Okay, I can see it now that you say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you would watch the movie Jaws and
Speaker 2: you'd hear bout yeah, you knew shit was about to
Speaker 2: break off and it was about to be violent and bloody.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: So that's you know, you got that slow build and
Speaker 2: then the whole thing just blows up. And that's what
Speaker 2: we were going for, you know, get the audience, get
Speaker 2: the people pumped, that the anticipation, and then damn, you know,
Speaker 2: just go all out.
Speaker 1: And that's kindly how I just described it, though, like
Speaker 1: that's how I felt when they would play it. When
Speaker 1: it would come on, my nerves would start to get
Speaker 1: bad because I'm like, okay, we're starting. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I have to I have to do this. I have
Speaker 1: to get ready this, you know, and it just it
Speaker 1: just me. It woke me up and we were starting
Speaker 1: our night. So it just fit perfectly. And I mean
Speaker 1: to this day when I hear it, I get gooseyes,
Speaker 1: I get the little goosebumps. I love it.
Speaker 2: That was another one of those crazy things where I
Speaker 2: had a deadline. I had to master Tazz's music, master
Speaker 2: the Eliminator's music. We had to write and create the
Speaker 2: extreme theme, and there was a couple of other tunes.
Speaker 2: I think I did one for sasse K that never
Speaker 2: got used because he brought his own music, Okay, and
Speaker 2: then it all had to be done with it a
Speaker 2: certain time because I had to be at the Terry Funk.
Speaker 1: Banquet, another thing I wasn't allowed to go to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so our subjects brought up good to heal.
Speaker 1: Dang, let's talk about because I've mentioned this before and
Speaker 1: it's so funny to this day, no one knew that
Speaker 1: this was me, and I know, I think you know
Speaker 1: what I'm going to refer to. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: story about how this came about. All I remember is
Speaker 1: going to your apartment or your studio or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: and we were at three in the morning doing and
Speaker 1: we had to show the next day. Why did Paul
Speaker 1: make me do it?
Speaker 2: It was my idea, to be honest. Yeah. Well, here's
Speaker 2: the thing, Franny. Nobody gives you the credit for completely
Speaker 2: transforming when you would go through that curtain. As far
Speaker 2: as actors go, you were one of the best ones
Speaker 2: in the company because the person backstage I liked the
Speaker 2: person that went through the curtain. I wanted to hit
Speaker 2: with rocks and everything about you, including the tone of
Speaker 2: your voice changed when you were in the ring, when
Speaker 2: you were on the microphone, and with enough little digital manipulation,
Speaker 2: I knew that we could get away with it where
Speaker 2: it would be like an in house thing, you know,
Speaker 2: like we knew but the fans didn't know. And at
Speaker 2: some point, because the whole Rick Rude angle, I figured
Speaker 2: it's another arsenal for something Paul could use. Where Shane
Speaker 2: finds out that Francine sang on Rick Rude's music and
Speaker 2: how can we.
Speaker 1: Never did that? That's something we never did, but no
Speaker 1: one knew. That was me, not a clue.
Speaker 2: And what I loved about it was, you know, okay,
Speaker 2: because of the time constraints, we had Elk's Lodge. On
Speaker 2: a Friday, my writing partner Roder Raccone came to the show.
Speaker 2: We all went back to Rod's studio, which was in
Speaker 2: a terrible part of the Lower East Side.
Speaker 1: See I don't remember much of this.
Speaker 2: Well do you remember this? When we pulled up and
Speaker 2: there was a bunch of women and you said, why
Speaker 2: are they out there? And I said, oh, because they're
Speaker 2: crack horse?
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are these women out here at four in
Speaker 1: the morning.
Speaker 2: I don't know the horse. You might play one on TV,
Speaker 2: but they play one in real life.
Speaker 1: My memory is shit, honestly, like I think because of
Speaker 1: like the concussions that I've had. And then I blame
Speaker 1: it on pregnancy too, because they say when you get pregnant,
Speaker 1: you forget. I don't remember. I have forgotten more than
Speaker 1: I remember. Unfortunately. That makes me super sad because people
Speaker 1: will trigger my memory, like sometimes I'll go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, and then I'll remember the night that I
Speaker 1: was with you. All I remember is just it was
Speaker 1: super duper late, and we were jotting things down, like
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper or something, and I remember
Speaker 1: singing into a micro if you call it, say it
Speaker 1: wasn't even singing.
Speaker 2: But great. I wrote the lyrics as we were there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had the lyrics in my head. I just didn't
Speaker 2: have them on paper. I'm not a good pen and
Speaker 2: paper thing when it comes to music. I keep everything
Speaker 2: in my head. I've got thirty songs here right now,
Speaker 2: but none of them are on paper.
Speaker 1: But I was writing it down because I wanted to
Speaker 1: have I didn't want to mess up.
Speaker 2: I think I wrote it down and you couldn't read
Speaker 2: my writing.
Speaker 1: So I rewrote it down. Yeah, Okay, so I'm singing
Speaker 1: this song. I don't even know why, don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I just was told go with Harry. At this point,
Speaker 1: I knew you long enough that I trusted you. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: and I do remember the next morning you dropping me
Speaker 1: off at Dreamer's house and then I drove with him
Speaker 1: to Philly. Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 2: You stayed at my house, separate bedrooms, separate rooms.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're a complete gentleman. I must say thank you. Yes,
Speaker 1: my funny business. But then it was super early, and
Speaker 1: I remember I had to go and I went to
Speaker 1: Dreamers and then we all went to the arena.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the arena the next day.
Speaker 1: I think it was Philly.
Speaker 2: Okay, then I must have shown up afterwards.
Speaker 1: Maybe I think it was Philly. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: because you know, I just said my memories crap. But
Speaker 1: I just remember going to his house for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: and then getting in the car and taking a trip.
Speaker 1: But I never, like, I was never told why am
Speaker 1: I doing this? Like I never had there was no
Speaker 1: concept behind it. It's just like You're gonna sing rick song.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and then I'm thinking Okay,
Speaker 1: Well when it comes on, is everybody gonna like point? No,
Speaker 1: one even, like I don't even know if they were
Speaker 1: listening to this song. But years later when I tell people,
Speaker 1: they'll google it or they'll pull it up on YouTube
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, that was.
Speaker 4: You, and I'm like, yeah, we did it on the air.
Speaker 4: I had no clue. I never even thought twice about it.
Speaker 3: And then when we listened to it and I really
Speaker 3: was like listening, I was like, oh, yeah, that's you.
Speaker 1: That was me.
Speaker 2: Well, that that was something I had to fight. Honestly.
Speaker 2: I had to fight Paul on it. He's like, no,
Speaker 2: you can use there's other singers. I'm like, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, you know, but who would do it for free? Paul?
Speaker 1: I need you get paid for that special uh? That
Speaker 1: special track that I recorded?
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I I saw it like if
Speaker 2: people found out it's something that they could use in.
Speaker 1: The angle, right, And we never we never did any
Speaker 1: of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Nobody ever figured it out.
Speaker 1: No, I know, like, oh cool, but it was fun
Speaker 1: because that was something like that Rob Van Dam's video
Speaker 1: where I had to dance around. That was so terrible.
Speaker 1: Paul said he wouldn't er it but he said, my
Speaker 1: my piece was the saving grace, but he still wouldn't
Speaker 1: er it.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that video?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it. It was really but that's what
Speaker 1: they told us to do. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But like, I never I never thought I would be
Speaker 1: like a video vixen dancing around and they're like lipsing
Speaker 1: and I don't even know the song, like what is
Speaker 1: the song? You know? But that and like singing it
Speaker 1: kind of got me out of my element and let
Speaker 1: me like now, honestly, like I never want to to
Speaker 1: be like a singer after I did that, But I
Speaker 1: said to myself, this was something I probably would never
Speaker 1: ever get a chance in my life to do. And
Speaker 1: it was something fun, you know, and we made it
Speaker 1: fun even though I was exhausted. I just remember you
Speaker 1: and I staring at each other and laughing, and because
Speaker 1: we were at the point of like it was super
Speaker 1: duper late, I knew I had to get up early,
Speaker 1: and I knew I had to be somewhere else, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, what am I doing?
Speaker 1: You know, But it's it's something I'm I I'm happy
Speaker 1: that I did. Yeah me, it got me to you
Speaker 1: know bond with you more because I only knew you
Speaker 1: as Harry Paul's friend at the you know, I pose.
Speaker 2: That many people knew I was doing the music either. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't put myself over in the back
Speaker 2: and you know have a T shirt that says I'm
Speaker 2: the rock.
Speaker 1: Star and oh you were very quiet.
Speaker 2: I saw the production being more important, you know, the
Speaker 2: stuff I would do with the live events and behind
Speaker 2: the scenes as being far more important than the music,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, you know, because it could
Speaker 2: have been any other song playing. You know, but who's
Speaker 2: going to sneak sit into the building, who's going to
Speaker 2: get this done, Who's going to distribute a thousand heads
Speaker 2: in five minutes? Yes, that was, in my opinion, far
Speaker 2: more more important and more noteworthy than recording and writing
Speaker 2: the music. I also found it really cool that you
Speaker 2: ended up they ended up using that same music, the
Speaker 2: same song remixed for you later on, if you remember.
Speaker 1: I think I yeah, I think they did it without
Speaker 1: the vocals, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Originally Paul wanted me to do that, take the words out,
Speaker 2: remix it, change it a little to use for Tammy. Okay,
Speaker 2: But the writing was on the wall where she was
Speaker 2: headed and never ended up being used for her and
Speaker 2: ended up being used for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, okay, well that makes sense. I guess you
Speaker 1: know it worked bit.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought it was ironic, but you know, hey,
Speaker 2: you know people dug it. You know they used it
Speaker 2: on the live events when you would come out by yourself, right,
Speaker 2: they were using the remix of simply Ravishing. I forget
Speaker 2: what we renamed. I think we called it TNA ninety
Speaker 2: nine or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's a great name.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I remember the simply ravishing part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh god, how funny. That's bringing me back. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like.
Speaker 3: Wait, can I did you hear his simply Ravishing music
Speaker 3: from WCW.
Speaker 4: Did they play that for you at all?
Speaker 1: Harry?
Speaker 4: No, because it.
Speaker 3: It's weird, it's not it sounds in the same vein,
Speaker 3: but it's a completely different song.
Speaker 4: That's like a more it's lyrical.
Speaker 2: It's because we all off the David Rose song The Stripper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because when we listened to it on
Speaker 3: the air again, I hadn't heard it, you know, in ages,
Speaker 3: and I said that I was like, well, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I was like, he ravishing Rick ruits got pretty damn
Speaker 3: good music out there in the universe.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, trying to be breathy.
Speaker 2: Yeah you did. If I remember correctly, we did different
Speaker 2: takes of different voices. Probably one was more of a
Speaker 2: nasty voice, but then we went with the breathy Marilyn
Speaker 2: Monroe kind of thing, which is what we ended up using.
Speaker 1: Okay, hilarious. I don't know. I just found it, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I could say I did a I recorded a song.
Speaker 1: Yeah that no one knows it's me, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: Bring in the morning in a studio surrounded by crack horse.
Speaker 4: There you go. You should have the crack horse on backup.
Speaker 1: They should have been in the background doing the doomy
Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious. Well, I do you still talk to Paul.
Speaker 2: Via electronic medium? Once in a blue moon?
Speaker 1: Once in a blue moon.
Speaker 2: The last time I saw him was at his father's funeral.
Speaker 2: I went to his dad's funeral because I knew his
Speaker 2: dad and he was a great guy. But the crazy
Speaker 2: Paul Hayman that I knew ceased to exist the day
Speaker 2: his daughter was born. And I'm not saying that in
Speaker 2: a bad way. I'm saying in a great way that
Speaker 2: the moment he had a child, his priorities changed, of course,
Speaker 2: which is awesome. Yeah, you know, he's still basically the
Speaker 2: same guy, but he's not, which is a good thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying in a bad way at all.
Speaker 1: And I can totally relate because when I had my children,
Speaker 1: it's not about me anymore. It's about them. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so you do have to change your priorities.
Speaker 2: Maybe when his son graduates, I'll get a call at
Speaker 2: four in the morning saying meet me at Sarges. Response
Speaker 2: will be no, I'm too old to go to the
Speaker 2: Elliott five in the morning, right.
Speaker 1: I get it. Well, I want to thank you because,
Speaker 1: like people don't know, you're one of the unsung heroes
Speaker 1: within our company. Like you, you know there there, we
Speaker 1: had a core group. We were a family. We say
Speaker 1: this all the time. You were a part of that family,
Speaker 1: and like all of us, if something needed to be
Speaker 1: done and we had the time to do it, of
Speaker 1: course we would do it. But there were people like
Speaker 1: you who would be in the back and you would
Speaker 1: be sitting there and if something needed to be done,
Speaker 1: you would be one of the first to jump up
Speaker 1: and go do it. I remember you took me to
Speaker 1: was it the mall? The night it was you the
Speaker 1: Bikini Showdown? And first of all, it wasn't even bikini weather,
Speaker 1: oh mid winter. It was winter. So Paul says, we
Speaker 1: have a lull that I don't have anything big for tonight.
Speaker 1: Can you do a bikini contest with Dawn? So I'm like, oh, really,
Speaker 1: we didn't really do those, you know, And I said, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a bikini, and he says, I'll give
Speaker 1: you money. Go to the store. And here Dawn didn't
Speaker 1: have to wear the bikini. I was the only one
Speaker 1: who had to wear the bikini. So he says, go
Speaker 1: to the store, and I said, well, how am I
Speaker 1: supposed to get to this store? Here comes Harry.
Speaker 2: We didn't buy bikinis.
Speaker 1: If you're when did we go?
Speaker 2: I forget, but we went to two or three different
Speaker 2: places looking for swimwear and we ended up buying underwear.
Speaker 1: We bought lingerie. Yes that you could see through it, yes,
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize you can see through it. And
Speaker 1: thank god I was like completely shaven, because if I wasn't,
Speaker 1: But I said to myself, where the hell am I
Speaker 1: I needed a robe and I need it. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I needed a bikini, but you know, Harry jumped up.
Speaker 1: I'll take her. And that's the kind of crew that
Speaker 1: we had. So you know you. I don't know if
Speaker 1: people like said thank you to you in the past.
Speaker 1: I know I have, but I'll say it again, like,
Speaker 1: without guys like you, we would have been in chaos
Speaker 1: because we would have been running around like chickens without heads.
Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of us couldn't physically leave
Speaker 1: the building. We needed to stay there. So it wasn't
Speaker 1: for people like you, we'd be screwed.
Speaker 2: What was funny about that is because we could only
Speaker 2: find underwear at one point, like I need to ask
Speaker 2: you for a favor, can you see my And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you really want me to look there? Come on?
Speaker 1: Jerry Lynn always says this. I always asked them, do
Speaker 1: I have camel tooe? I trusted you guys like you
Speaker 1: were my brothers. I just trusted everybody, So I need
Speaker 1: an opinion.
Speaker 2: So for you, for you fans out there, there was
Speaker 2: one time in my life where I had to get
Speaker 2: on my knees and stare at Francine's crotch.
Speaker 4: I had to get my knees hard night at work.
Speaker 2: Lord, Hey, you know somebody had to do it. You know,
Speaker 2: I took one for the team.
Speaker 1: You did, and I appreciate it, and I thank you.
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, you did a lot
Speaker 1: for us, and it might have seemed to you like
Speaker 1: nobody appreciated you. I always did, so yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: for being I mean I.
Speaker 2: Had a lot of fun with you. I mean that's
Speaker 2: when people ask me if I missed ec W, I say, no,
Speaker 2: what I miss is hanging out with the people and
Speaker 2: just you know, having.
Speaker 1: Fun, because we had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yea, they had a lot of fun. There
Speaker 2: was I remember I forget what episode of south Park
Speaker 2: where Cartman started doing I Want to Sing and the Alien?
Speaker 1: Are you interesting that in the back all the time
Speaker 1: I would do a dance.
Speaker 2: Remember, yes, for weeks for weeks.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I have to go back and watch
Speaker 5: that episode because we would be sitting there for hours
Speaker 5: waiting to either get paid or do promos.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, Okay, I'm going to do some
Speaker 1: you know, some song and dance and entertain these people.
Speaker 1: That's how I am. Yeah, and you either hated me
Speaker 1: and told me to get the hell out of your
Speaker 1: face or people would clap along with me to watch
Speaker 1: me do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, there's one other thing. I remember when
Speaker 2: you got hurt when Bam Bam dropped you. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: this is afterwards, you're we're all back at the hotel, okay,
Speaker 2: and people are hanging out in your room. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: this is where I bring up another unsung hero has Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: It was one of the guys that wasn't really an
Speaker 2: ECW guy. I think it was an ex WWE guy
Speaker 2: that was in the company at the time that had
Speaker 2: a notorious reputation for taking advantage of women that couldn't
Speaker 2: defend themselves.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention the name. You can mention
Speaker 2: it if you want. But he came.
Speaker 4: We talked about it before. We we we talked about
Speaker 4: it before. But you can continue.
Speaker 2: Are we talking about an express kind of guy?
Speaker 1: Continue?
Speaker 4: Just continue the story.
Speaker 2: So when he heard that you were all markoed up
Speaker 2: on painkillers in your hotel room or whatever they gave you,
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, his eyes lit up, and he came
Speaker 2: to see how you're doing. He walks in the door.
Speaker 2: Paul gets up and he grabs me and Has he's
Speaker 2: come with me. He goes over to the guy says,
Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen. You're going to say, hey,
Speaker 2: I hope you're feeling better, and you're going to leave.
Speaker 2: You're not going to come back because if anything happens
Speaker 2: to this woman, this is my friend Has and this
Speaker 2: is Harry. They're gonna take care of you. And the
Speaker 2: guy's like, what are you talking about? And Has looks
Speaker 2: at the guy dead eye. He goes, I have a
Speaker 2: portable settling torch in the trunk of my car and
Speaker 2: three days cutting you into small pieces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you, and he looks.
Speaker 2: He looks at me. He goes, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch and have fun.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. And it's funny you mentioned this
Speaker 1: because I was on Delauded because our resident doctor who
Speaker 1: was really a foot doctor that was friends with Raven.
Speaker 1: He took me to the hospital and got the X
Speaker 1: rays and it was broken. You all know the story.
Speaker 1: And he says, give her the good stuff. I think
Speaker 1: Paul said, put her on Delauded. That'll help her. Right,
Speaker 1: I come back and everybody's trying like where's the delauded
Speaker 1: in your purse? And I'm like, and I only have thirtie,
Speaker 1: like get out here. But I think they they they
Speaker 1: gave me a pill like when I was there, so
Speaker 1: I'm loopy and you knew me. I wasn't really I
Speaker 1: wasn't into drugs, right, And I remember being one beer beer, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I would have a cocktailer or two and that
Speaker 1: was it. But I remember being in the bed and
Speaker 1: my roommate was Michael Farren because Michael was taking care
Speaker 1: of me that night, and all the boys were in
Speaker 1: the room. I remember what you're talking about. He came
Speaker 1: in and I had thirty of the party was in
Speaker 1: my room. There was like thirty guys and just hanging out.
Speaker 1: And cause I and I didn't do much, I still
Speaker 1: had I remember I had my hospital galing on and
Speaker 1: I was just out of it and I was just
Speaker 1: kind of sitting there and people had the TV on,
Speaker 1: there was a case of beer and whatever. The next day,
Speaker 1: Tommy Dreamer tells me, do you believe that? So and
Speaker 1: so asked me if we should do like a gang
Speaker 1: bang because you were on your drug and I was like,
Speaker 1: what and he's like, oh, I grabbed him and I
Speaker 1: basically he goes, I want to throw him out of
Speaker 1: the room. He goes when he suggested that, I was like,
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here, and he just got
Speaker 1: really like intent and I was just like, who does
Speaker 1: that kind of thing?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Thank God? Like I thank god to this day that
Speaker 1: company that I was with wasn't a bunch of scumbags,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because if it was anybody else,
Speaker 1: something bad could have happened to me.
Speaker 2: And he and his partner disappeared from the company shortly
Speaker 2: after that. But Has what we call he was the
Speaker 2: arms master in the video game Uh huh okay. The
Speaker 2: Dudlings actually said they were afraid of him because he
Speaker 2: used to eat Soldier of Fortune magazine on the bathroom
Speaker 2: and order stuff out of Soldier.
Speaker 1: Of Fortune grenades.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 2: Has has kept a list of everybody's injury.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: He had to exploit it. And when Sid came into
Speaker 2: the company, Has was staring at him and looking at him.
Speaker 2: He's like, I got to figure out how to take
Speaker 2: this guy down, you know, you know if something happened
Speaker 2: and the next week at the arena, Has Has had
Speaker 2: an army issued taser with one of those thirty foot
Speaker 2: courts just for sid in case something.
Speaker 1: Think about it. You're a young girl, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: super young. I get hurt, you come back, And not
Speaker 1: one thought crossed my mind than anyone any one of
Speaker 1: these guys would try to take advantage of me. And
Speaker 1: that's why I was just like, oh, yeah, they can come.
Speaker 1: Because everybody kept saying, we want to come see you,
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you all can come up to
Speaker 1: the room if you want to drink, and people were
Speaker 1: bringing their beer and whatever they were doing. And then
Speaker 1: this guy who is an outsider because he wasn't one
Speaker 1: of us now, but when I heard that he did that,
Speaker 1: it honestly like I hated him. And I never said
Speaker 1: anything about it to anyone because I didn't want any heat.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, God forbid, what a predator like? Who
Speaker 1: who says that? And thank God that you guys all
Speaker 1: had my back. And that's all I'm saying, because you
Speaker 1: don't know, like if it was in another company, bad
Speaker 1: stuff might have happened.
Speaker 2: If it was an episode of Dark side of the
Speaker 2: Ring Waiting, if he had come back to the room,
Speaker 2: he would have not made it out of Philadelphia.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, Scarry All wasn't kidding when he told
Speaker 7: the guy that me and Has would spend three days
Speaker 7: torturing him unreal.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess he didn't understand the camaraderie and the
Speaker 1: family bond that we all had together because he was
Speaker 1: literally politicking to get this done and everybody's looking at
Speaker 1: him like are you crazy? Like and I'm oblivious. I'm
Speaker 1: just like sitting there like.
Speaker 2: You know, oh you You weren't even part of the universe. You.
Speaker 1: I was just I mean, I remember everybody coming in
Speaker 1: and out, but I was just chilling.
Speaker 2: You were so narcoed out that night.
Speaker 1: The long is no joke, bro, I broke my hip.
Speaker 2: Come on and basically the lad is synthetic heroine.
Speaker 1: Well that's what they gave me, and people were reaching
Speaker 1: for my person, like, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2: Had this guy even done anything the Paul kept me.
Speaker 2: I think the reason Paul brought me around originally was
Speaker 2: not for music. It was because he knew I was
Speaker 2: a psycho, you know from.
Speaker 7: You there, Harry and then you like an arsenal of weapons.
Speaker 1: Oh God, just just another reason for me to express
Speaker 1: my love for you and say thank you because God forbid, wasn't.
Speaker 2: I think has was the one that did the makeup
Speaker 2: when you were supposed to have a black eye.
Speaker 1: My black guy in New York. Yeah, I did his
Speaker 1: Spirit of seventy six with Jason and he did my
Speaker 1: My my black eye. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: He was like Ivory. You could do anything if you need.
Speaker 1: Give him a piece of gum and a string and
Speaker 1: he would make a bomb.
Speaker 2: Bring a piece of gum, two big lighters, and a
Speaker 2: tune of sandwich. Why the tuna sandwich? Well, I'm hungry,
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 1: I can talk for hours here, but unfortunately we are
Speaker 1: out of time. Is there any are you on social
Speaker 1: media at all that people can follow your band once we.
Speaker 2: Get going Twitter? Harry Slash on various, I don't have
Speaker 2: a website right now because somebody held it hostage. You
Speaker 2: build it and decided they wanted three times the amount
Speaker 2: of money we agreed on, so they've pulled my content.
Speaker 2: Even though there is a Harry Slash and a slash
Speaker 2: tones ww thing out there, there's nothing attached to it.
Speaker 2: So for the time being, because there's no reason to
Speaker 2: do anything until the pandemic's over. I can be found
Speaker 2: on Facebook at Harry Slash on Twitter at Harry Slash
Speaker 2: and Instagram on Harry Slash, where I post stupid ship.
Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. Well, I advise everyone to follow him
Speaker 1: because he's a very funny man. But I'm so glad
Speaker 1: we got to chat, and I hope I see you
Speaker 1: again because I mean, you're one of the good ones.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: So thank I mean when when I last I saw you,
Speaker 2: we exchanged InFocus. I was supposed to take a ride
Speaker 2: down a Jersey Yeah, yeah, and you know.
Speaker 7: That globe thanks pandemic.
Speaker 1: I know we'll get it done eventually, hopefully.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I ever make it up to
Speaker 1: New York, I'll let you know and we can thank you.
Speaker 1: We can do something. But I'm glad you came today
Speaker 1: and I wish you nothing but success.
Speaker 2: In love and back at you, Frannie. It was a
Speaker 2: pleasure talking to you, even if it was through a
Speaker 2: computer screen.
Speaker 1: No, next time it'll be live good.
Speaker 2: But next time I'll have my new teeth me too.
Speaker 1: I'm getting braces.
Speaker 2: Well, I had. I had an accident earlier this year
Speaker 2: and I crack four of my front teeth.
Speaker 1: Ou Oh okay, Well, we'll both have new smiles, so that'll.
Speaker 2: Be and in the process of root canals, and then
Speaker 2: in two weeks I get caps.
Speaker 1: All right, good luck with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a stupid accent. My friend thought he
Speaker 2: was in dry when he was in reverse and he
Speaker 2: hit a tree and I went right into it.
Speaker 4: Ouch, Harry, that's extreme. Did you get up and say
Speaker 4: that you know this is extreme?
Speaker 2: No sold it? I no sold it and we went,
Speaker 2: you know, and just kept moving on. The next day
Speaker 2: I was had my lip was blown up and there
Speaker 2: you go. Parts of my teeth were falling out.
Speaker 1: Oh god, Well, good luck and I hope to speak
Speaker 1: with you soon.
Speaker 2: My friend back at you was a pleasure. Thank you
Speaker 2: for having me on the show. Guys, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself.
Speaker 2: Bye. Yeah franc.
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