WEBVTT - Best of: Harry Slash and the story of ECW's theme music

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<v Speaker 1>So, Harry, I'm happy to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, I saw you right before the pandemic. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe January of last year you stopped by the Wrestling Universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it something like that, Yeah, Jack Sabbath, Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so Shane and I got to chit chat with you

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<v Speaker 1>there for a long It's greatful.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was not January. I think that was before.

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<v Speaker 1>That was No, that was my last signing. It was

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<v Speaker 1>January of twenty twenty. Okay, that was the last signing

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<v Speaker 1>I did in person, and I saw you there. I

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<v Speaker 1>was happy to see you because it had a while. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's start with this. What have you been up

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<v Speaker 1>to lately?

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<v Speaker 2>Sitting in the same chair I'm talking to you now

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<v Speaker 2>for the last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, besides that working on music? Are you a real job?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's going on in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Prior to the pandemic. I was about to start rehearsals.

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<v Speaker 2>I had about a dozen shows booked for last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to be getting on the Newport Folk Festival,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a really really big music event up at Newport,

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<v Speaker 2>Rhode Island, and then it all disappeared. So I, like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else in my universe, have been writing this out

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<v Speaker 2>most of the people I know or in the entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>world in some form or another, and it all came

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<v Speaker 2>to a crashing hal last February, last March. Yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my friends are not doing so well.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm okay for the time being. I could ride

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<v Speaker 2>this out for another six months to a year if

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<v Speaker 2>I have to, but others can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, New York is trying to figure things out.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe live entertainment will start shortly, but at like

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<v Speaker 2>minimum capacity, which trying to do a live show with

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent capacity, you're just bleeding money. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>making any money. You're losing money. You know. As far

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<v Speaker 2>as recording studios, that came to the grinding hole too,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of the higher end studios will only

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<v Speaker 2>take one client day and you're paying for like twelve

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<v Speaker 2>hours but only working for eight because the first two

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<v Speaker 2>and last two they dedicate to completely sanitizing the place.

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<v Speaker 2>And even still, my good friend, my my saxophone player

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<v Speaker 2>did a session and he got COVID Wow, even though

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<v Speaker 2>he was the only person in the booth. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it may have been from the session, it may not

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<v Speaker 2>have been but he was super careful and then the

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<v Speaker 2>next thing you know, he spent about like a week

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<v Speaker 2>and a half in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. You know, as far as I know, the apes

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<v Speaker 2>haven't started talking yet, so you know, as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>that happens, I'm done, I'm out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well are you still with the Slash Tunes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Okay, the Slash Tones is basically anybody I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>with at that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just rotate and yeah, yeah, going on like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty different people in and out of that band at

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<v Speaker 1>one point or another. Yeah. Right, So I met you

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<v Speaker 1>obviously through eth W. Yeah, you were friends with Paul Haman. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How did your friendship with him come about? Like? Where

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<v Speaker 1>did you meet Paul? I know, I know the story,

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<v Speaker 1>but people don't. I want people to know how you

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<v Speaker 1>got into this wacky world, Professor I met.

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<v Speaker 2>I met Paul Hayman waiting online to use the bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>at the China Club, Okay, and had absolutely no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who he was or what he did for a living

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<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't watching wrestling back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what year was this.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So was he in WCW at the time?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably? Honestly, I yes, yes, I think he was in

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<v Speaker 2>WC wherever it was that he won the Manager of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year award for Pro Wrestling Illustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I think it was WC Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was probably WCW because there was one time

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<v Speaker 2>at the Limelight. You know, I'd been channel surf, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the clicker, and you know, I came across some

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling thing that I thought was complete. Three stooges, goofy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that Sunday night at the Limelight, I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this stupid thing. This one guy with a

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<v Speaker 2>tennis racket, this other guy would a cell phone and

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<v Speaker 2>they had this stupid fencing match. It was hysterical. It

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<v Speaker 2>was him that I was talking about, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, right. Did he take offense to that?

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<v Speaker 2>No? He thought it was great because I was actually

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<v Speaker 2>one of the few people within the club world that

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<v Speaker 2>treated him like a person and not like poly dangerously.

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew Paul, right, I didn't know what a

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<v Speaker 2>Polly dangerously was.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you know You're waiting to go to the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you go, you do your duty, you come

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<v Speaker 1>out and you see him again, and you just strake

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<v Speaker 1>up a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, no, okay, all right, it's been a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>so I might as well talk about this. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>going into the bathroom to use the bathroom. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going into the bathroom to take a couple of hits

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<v Speaker 2>upot okay. And he was online behind me, and I'm like, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>if you need to piss ahead, I'm not gonna pee,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but don't get weird on me or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of you.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so he's like, well, I don't really need

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<v Speaker 2>to pee either, and we ended up in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a cocaine drug thing. It was I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to smoke weed and he wanted to smoke a

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<v Speaker 2>little of his own thing. And I opened up. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a secrets ten, you know, the cough drop ten. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that I kept the pot in. And he describes it

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<v Speaker 2>like the briefcase in pulp fiction where you open it

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<v Speaker 2>up and light emanas from it, Like his eyes lit up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what is that? Trees? And we smoked a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of bowls and then we hung out and the

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<v Speaker 2>next thing, I know, every time I go to it

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<v Speaker 2>like the Limelight or the China Club or one of

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<v Speaker 2>those really cool clubs that no longer exist there he was,

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<v Speaker 2>so for couple of years, I'd be hanging out with

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<v Speaker 2>the guy three nights a week. Had no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>he did for a living, but because of the way

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<v Speaker 2>people treated him, I thought he was either like a

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant owner, a mobster, a drug dealer, pornographer, And it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out he was a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all of them, we come to find out right.

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<v Speaker 3>Very hard to believe, by the way, with all the

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<v Speaker 3>posters and pictures behind you, that you would partake in

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<v Speaker 3>such debauchery in the bathroom there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so you mean to tell me that you

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with Paul all this time and his wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>never pops up to you, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one time I dropped a friend off at

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<v Speaker 2>LaGuardia Airport and she was heading to Florida. I as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving the terminal, he's walking in. He's going on

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<v Speaker 2>the same flight because it was a connecting flight in Atlanta, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And like, Hey, what are you doing here? He's like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going down to Atlanta, Atlanta. What the hell are

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<v Speaker 2>you going on? Atlanta? For and that's when he remembered

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what he did. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>he did for a living. He's like, oh, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a parking ticket down there. I'm like, can't you just

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<v Speaker 2>mail it in?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's even bullshitting you now, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Really bullshitting me. It's like he didn't see a reason

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<v Speaker 2>to bring it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he was bullshitting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably Probably guy really had no idea what he did

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<v Speaker 2>for a living. It was just some cool dude I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to hang out with.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens when you find out like are you

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<v Speaker 1>like taking aback?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you like what?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird, you know, it's very weird considering all the other

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<v Speaker 2>promoters would be like, hey, Paulie, here's some drink tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>So I figured, all right, this guy's a wise guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't make a difference to me. There's a club event.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget what they renamed the club, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>a very famous club in New York called Octagon, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew the promoters in there, and they had a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch. It was like three floors, so they had

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of events. They had a fashion show, they

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<v Speaker 2>had a jam session. They had this going on, that

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and then the presentation of the Manager of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year award to Paul Dangerously. That's great. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go for the Polly Dangerously thing. I went because all

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<v Speaker 2>my friends were in the in the band that were playing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get to the club, I go up to

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<v Speaker 2>the VIP room and there's Paul hanging out, but this

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<v Speaker 2>time he's not wearing cowboy boots and jeans and a

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<v Speaker 2>leather jacket. He's in a suit. I didn't think much

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<v Speaker 2>of it. He's like, what are you doing here? It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I came for the jam to support Matt and Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>who were the promoters, and there's some stupid wrestling thing

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<v Speaker 2>going on. I check that effect my exact words. About

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<v Speaker 2>an hour later, I go back up to the VIP room.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a six foot toll projection screen showing the

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<v Speaker 2>best of Polly Dangerously.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when it clicks for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet, look at you. I look at Paul to

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<v Speaker 2>get hit ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>With the ass that's the pot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I look at the screen, I look at Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>I look back at the screen. I look back at Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first thought that came into my mind is, oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend is one of those freaks that dresses up

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<v Speaker 2>like pro wrestlers.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're just thinking in your head he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>poly dangerously.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking he's a cosplayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear god, Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't It didn't really click. And then he comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>He puts his arm around my shoulder. He's like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>who is that handsome guy on the screen. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you. That's what you do for a living. Finally, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, cool. I don't know what to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say them after you called him an idiot forty times

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't know it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>It was another time I was trying to do this

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<v Speaker 2>thing at the Ritz where I was telling him the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of putting a ferris wheel inside of a club

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<v Speaker 2>and like all sorts of weird stuff, and I kept

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<v Speaker 2>telling him about this stand up comedy routine about the

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<v Speaker 2>invisible wrestler, and it just didn't click. I wasn't watching

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling at the time, yeah, you know, and when I

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<v Speaker 2>when I would be channel surfing, it would be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the distance on a small screen. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like he was that recognizable. You know. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>high definition back in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You see him in this room, you know they're giving

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<v Speaker 1>an award out and then you think he's cosplaying kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one Harry, you're smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess, but it just two and two didn't

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<v Speaker 2>make that up to four at that moment because I

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<v Speaker 2>was out with the guy for a while, Yeah I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a clue that he was involved in that.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you're friends with him when he jumps over

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<v Speaker 1>to easy Dub at this point, Yes, you're aware of

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's going on because you I remember you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>were you there from the get go when he came in?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, You guys were running primarily out of Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>Philly, New York, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>You hadn't really broken into New York yet, not Where Island,

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<v Speaker 2>not New York City. I guess it was upstate. But

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<v Speaker 2>I kept getting invitations through Mike Lawler, who you guys

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<v Speaker 2>all called spider Man. He's one of the guys I

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<v Speaker 2>work with in the band, and he kept giving the invitations.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to go to wrestling. The last time

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<v Speaker 2>I watched wrestling, Bruno permed his hair, became the commentator,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was done with it. Plus I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>cable for the longest time, so that whole eighties boom,

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<v Speaker 2>the rock and wrestling thing, the five days a week

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<v Speaker 2>on cable, I didn't have any of that. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was totally totally out of it. And I'd be getting

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<v Speaker 2>the invitations to go to like Bethlehem and Allan toown

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<v Speaker 2>in Philadelphia, and I would use the excuse that my

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<v Speaker 2>bron I had an old Bronco that had three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand miles on it. Literally, yeah, I said it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>make it. So I get a phone call from him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on a Friday. He's like, hey, I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to come to the show. I said, dude, my car

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<v Speaker 2>won't make it to Pennsylvania. He goes, the show's on

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<v Speaker 2>Queens Boulevard. It's ten minutes from your house. Lost Battalion, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Lost Batalion Hall. Okay, okay, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten minutes from your house. I'll send a cab. I said, okay,

0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.040
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'll come to see your show. What time

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<v Speaker 2>does it start. He's like, it's from eight to eleven.

0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.760
<v Speaker 2>So I showed up at ten forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, as much I didn't really want.

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<v Speaker 2>To see it. Well, I didn't really pay attention. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't my cup of tea at the time, until I

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<v Speaker 2>finally caught the ECW television show at like two in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, and I'm like, okay, this isn't the cartoony

0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.319
<v Speaker 2>stuff that now. That totally turned me off to it,

0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and I came out to see the first show. From

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<v Speaker 2>beginning to end was out in Long Island. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, Deer Park, Yeah, okay, And I had no

0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.080
<v Speaker 2>idea who anybody was, so I kept saying, who do

0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I cheer for? Is what I kept asking him. It's like,

0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.680
<v Speaker 2>whoever you want. During the night, there was a brawl

0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.080
<v Speaker 2>with the Dudleys and I forget who else, but it

0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.160
<v Speaker 2>was Big Dick Dudley, Alex Yeah, and Primo Carnera, the

0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:34.080
<v Speaker 2>third who was there at Big Wuido. I think you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Called him Yeah, probably Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're outside of the main area and there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a section that's like separated with plexiglass wall plexiglass windows,

0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.640
<v Speaker 2>and Alex is banging Primo in one and he's banging

0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.920
<v Speaker 2>him in the other. There was one that was actual glass,

0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:57.240
<v Speaker 2>and Alex banged Primo through the plate glass and the

0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.920
<v Speaker 2>glass went flying everywhere and I'm like, okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not cartoons. No, this is cool. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>next thing after that was the gangstas okay, and I'm like, okay,

0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.760
<v Speaker 2>this is crazy, this is sick, this is demented, this

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<v Speaker 2>is dangerous. I can get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know. And then I think I came

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<v Speaker 2>up to I went to someplace upstate fairgrounds. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>forget what town it was where I saw another show

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<v Speaker 2>from beginning to end, and that was more of the insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I finally went out to the arena for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time and I'm like, okay, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>In Okay, I'm here. So with your musical background, did

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<v Speaker 1>you pitch to do stuff for us? It was Paul okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if I was around before I ever did music,

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<v Speaker 2>if you remember production, and then during the week, Paul

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<v Speaker 2>would get me to do stuff like get an ad

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<v Speaker 2>in the daily news and little stuff like that. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until the crossover with WWF at the Manhattan Center,

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<v Speaker 2>which was before the barely legal pay per view. So okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>February of ninety seven. If I'm not they needed clones

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<v Speaker 2>of what the guys were using because Taz was using

0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.760
<v Speaker 2>a song by Kiss, Tommy was using Man in the Box,

0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Damn Man was using Metallica so on, and we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting away with it forever. Yeah, which blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>But for Vince's TV, he needed soundlikes. Okay, Now, this

0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.720
<v Speaker 2>is the Monday before the show that he calls me up.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, I had an office. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get into it. I was I was a in

0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:57.360
<v Speaker 2>a legitimate universe at that time, okay. And he calls

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<v Speaker 2>me up and he's like, I need this, this, and this.

0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no idea what you're talking about. It's like, well,

0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I need you know how in WCW Diamond Dallas page

0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.600
<v Speaker 2>comes out to Nirvana, but it's I don't know. I'm like, no,

0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a clue. So I said, hold on.

0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I went there was I forget if it was Tower

0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Records or whatever it was. When they still had CD stores.

0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I went to the store a couple of blocks away

0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.960
<v Speaker 2>on thirty fourth Street in Manhattan, and I bought whatever

0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.679
<v Speaker 2>wrestling CDs they had, and I went back and I

0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.240
<v Speaker 2>listened to them, like went through them in the office.

0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I called Paul back up. I said dude, this is garbage.

0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.640
<v Speaker 2>There's like two parts in a song if they get

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<v Speaker 2>to a B or a change, and it's just a riff.

0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.760
<v Speaker 2>And this is what you want. He goes, Yeah, that's

0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.080
<v Speaker 2>what I need. Can you do it? I said, yeah,

0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll need a couple of weeks. He goes, I need

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<v Speaker 2>it by Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>There, I need it.

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<v Speaker 4>In forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, a three minute song takes a lot longer

0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.479
<v Speaker 2>than three minutes to record.

0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does four minutes. Jop it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I got to write the tune and

0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I gotta find the band, so you'll do it, right,

0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:06.959
<v Speaker 2>you can do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me, can I stump in for a second. So

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.920
<v Speaker 3>you listen to the music that was out of the time.

0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.879
<v Speaker 3>They'd only published a few CDs at that point, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's really very basic and a lot of the songs

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.639
<v Speaker 3>do sound nearly identical. So right, your expert ear you

0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.119
<v Speaker 3>hear that, and you're like, this is like this is

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:25.879
<v Speaker 3>a walk in the park for what I could do.

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Basically, it's you know, three out of four bars, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as the fourth bar doesn't sound exactly like

0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.359
<v Speaker 2>another song, and then you're not technically ripping somebody off,

0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you're creating a sound alike. You know, Tommy Dreamer, every

0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.679
<v Speaker 2>company he's worked for has made a sound alike of

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Man in the Box. You know, there's like five different

0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:54.399
<v Speaker 2>versions out there, including one that I did. So, you know,

0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.960
<v Speaker 2>because of scheduling, I was able to put a band together,

0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.680
<v Speaker 2>which was some pretty badass players. It was Richie Scarlett

0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and Steve Budgie from the Ace Freely Band, and a

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:11.560
<v Speaker 2>currently Grammy Award winning producer named Eddie Wall who produced

0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 2>El Nino in Primer fifty five later on, and we

0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:21.159
<v Speaker 2>booked twenty four hours in Eddie's studio in Yonkers or

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Mount Vernon, I forget where he lived at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in there at nine o'clock on a Saturday

0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.639
<v Speaker 2>and came home nine thirty on a Sunday. Wow, And

0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 2>in twenty four hours, myself and these the warriors that

0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I had, for lack of a better term, cranked out

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<v Speaker 2>about four or five tunes that were pretty terrible, but

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:44.520
<v Speaker 2>that's what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Fit right in now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we had the Manhattan Center and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I showed up with the dat tapes. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>CD burners yet, you know CD burners hadn't made their way.

0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 2>If you wanted a CD of something, you had to

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.800
<v Speaker 2>pay forty five dollars a CD at that point. Well. Yeah,

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.720
<v Speaker 2>so I went to the Manhattan Center with the DAT

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 2>tapes and was trying to get a sound check from

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.679
<v Speaker 2>them because quite literally, you know, this stuff had just

0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.280
<v Speaker 2>barely been mixed, it hadn't been mastered, And instead I

0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 2>ended up playing Jim Rummy with the Undertaker and eating

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 2>catering from over Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey.

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<v Speaker 3>So the songs they played at the Manhattan Center that

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.879
<v Speaker 3>night for the ECW guys was you yes, and you

0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 3>could tell. You could tell because it was distinctly different.

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.920
<v Speaker 3>And I remember the show very well. We talked about

0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.280
<v Speaker 3>it a lot because somebody else on the call wasn't

0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:42.479
<v Speaker 3>at that show. But you know, the music really was different.

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think they ended up using the Dreamer music

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.560
<v Speaker 3>for Sandman when Sandman came through the crowd, so you

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.159
<v Speaker 3>could just tell there was something a little different than

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<v Speaker 3>the WWF touch at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad they didn't use the Sandman music for

0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Sandman because that was, oh lord awful, that was absolutely terrible.

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, I I didn't watch it because Shane Douglas would

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>not let me go. Yeah, so I was bitter and

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 1>refuse to watch it. I was so mad. So so

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<v Speaker 1>you do the music for them?

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.119
<v Speaker 2>When don I thought I was done at that point.

0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like when when does it come to you? Or

0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:29.679
<v Speaker 1>when does Paul actually say, hey, you know we're using

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 1>all of this music like we were using Thunderkiss sixty

0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>five I think as our opening music. The when does

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.399
<v Speaker 1>when does he come to you and say, Harry, what

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.439
<v Speaker 1>what can you do? Does he suggest that you do it?

0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Or does the light bulb click and you could do

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>something cool? It was Taz as.

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Brother, I like this, I want to use it all

0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the time, And I was like.

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 1>No, the music from New York. In New York, oh okay, okay.

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 2>As like what I did better than what he was using.

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 2>But what I did needed some serious work. There were

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of bad notes, attitude and guitars, bad mistakes.

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.159
<v Speaker 2>With such a limited time to work, I figured, you

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 2>know it's going to be on in the background, people

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 2>be screaming, the announcers will talk, nobody will notice. When

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Taz wanted to use it full time, I said, I

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.640
<v Speaker 2>got to go back in the studio and make it right.

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there's a couple of things on there

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.320
<v Speaker 2>that I'm not happy about. So I did that and

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that became his theme right with Paul's blessing. Of course

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 2>he had to approve it, and because Taz and Perry

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Saturn worked together at the school, it became a politics

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>thing where if Taz has his own music, then Perry

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Saturn has to have his own music.

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so now you're doing songs individually for the boys

0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 1>who's coming to you and asking for them.

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still not something I expected to be an

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 2>ongoing thing. You know, Harry Saturn wanted this, you know,

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 2>elements of this song and that song, and he wanted

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>it to be robotic and kind of like future Terminators

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 2>type of thing. So we came up with total elimination.

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.719
<v Speaker 2>And then along comes the pay per view and granted

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 2>again a week before the show. I need this, I

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 2>need this, and I need this. Poul, you got to

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 2>be kidding me. No, you'll do it right. You're giving

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>me three days. You'll do it right.

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Don't you regret going in the bathroom that night with Oh.

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 2>God, I should have just gotten high in the parking

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>lot for God's sake.

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, I loved our theme. I loved. I absolutely

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>loved it. And to this day, the network now Peacock,

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>they use the most ridiculous music. And I mean, don't

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 1>they own your stuff?

0:23:58.200 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Why are they? Do you have any.

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I've never gotten the network. I will not get Peacock,

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 2>So I couldn't answer what they're using. I have no clue.

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand that they had the whole library of

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 1>your stuff at their feet and they're not using any

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of it from.

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 2>What I'm talking. Wouldn't answer why they're not are they're

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 2>not even using the UCW theme.

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't watch on the later shows that it's that

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 3>it was used on, Yes, but if you go back

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 3>to ninety five ninety six, it is just piped in

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, musac very parrible.

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>This didn't mean so it would be anything after ninety

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 2>seven because it didn't exist before that.

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 4>Right, But you would think that they could just you know,

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 4>move it.

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Over that instead of using the generic elevator music that

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they're using. Why wouldn't they use the library that you

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>provided them.

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I have no clue. I got some DVDs from them,

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, they were supposed to send me everything. They

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 2>used my stuff, and on one of the DVD's that

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 2>they have Taz's music they overdubbed their own music.

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, remember that.

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like this, why would you spend the money and

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the time when you own it.

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>That's that's my point. That's what I'm trying to say.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Like they have all this stuff and they're not using it.

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't And it was good. I loved the

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>ECW theme. Like that to me when I hear that

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.479
<v Speaker 1>to this day, this is so corny, but I get

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like goosebumps because I just remember. But I remember being

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>at shows and hearing us play that, and I knew, okay,

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>we're starting, it's time, we're gonna work, We're gonna like

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>it brings me back years since being a performer and

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>here like that song told me, Okay, this show's about

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to start. We're gonna do this, and it used to

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>get me pumped up. You know, I loved it. I

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>just thought it was so well done and it just

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>fits perfectly.

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, you know, Just just so you know, I've

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I've mentioned this on other interviews. The inspiration for the

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 2>e c W theme came from the theme from Jaws.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Ah.

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.719
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I can see it now that you say it.

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because when you would watch the movie Jaws and

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 2>you'd hear bout yeah, you knew shit was about to

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 2>break off and it was about to be violent and bloody.

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 2>So that's you know, you got that slow build and

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>then the whole thing just blows up. And that's what

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 2>we were going for, you know, get the audience, get

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>the people pumped, that the anticipation, and then damn, you know,

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 2>just go all out.

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's kindly how I just described it, though, like

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.719
<v Speaker 1>that's how I felt when they would play it. When

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it would come on, my nerves would start to get

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>bad because I'm like, okay, we're starting. Oh my god,

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I have to I have to do this. I have

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to get ready this, you know, and it just it

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 1>just me. It woke me up and we were starting

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>our night. So it just fit perfectly. And I mean

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to this day when I hear it, I get gooseyes,

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I get the little goosebumps. I love it.

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 2>That was another one of those crazy things where I

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 2>had a deadline. I had to master Tazz's music, master

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 2>the Eliminator's music. We had to write and create the

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>extreme theme, and there was a couple of other tunes.

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I did one for sasse K that never

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>got used because he brought his own music, Okay, and

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 2>then it all had to be done with it a

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>certain time because I had to be at the Terry Funk.

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>Banquet, another thing I wasn't allowed to go to.

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so our subjects brought up good to heal.

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Dang, let's talk about because I've mentioned this before and

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny to this day, no one knew that

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>this was me, and I know, I think you know

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm going to refer to. I don't remember the

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>story about how this came about. All I remember is

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>going to your apartment or your studio or whatever it was,

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and we were at three in the morning doing and

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>we had to show the next day. Why did Paul

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>make me do it?

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>It was my idea, to be honest. Yeah. Well, here's

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the thing, Franny. Nobody gives you the credit for completely

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>transforming when you would go through that curtain. As far

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>as actors go, you were one of the best ones

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>in the company because the person backstage I liked the

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>person that went through the curtain. I wanted to hit

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>with rocks and everything about you, including the tone of

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 2>your voice changed when you were in the ring, when

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>you were on the microphone, and with enough little digital manipulation,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I knew that we could get away with it where

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>it would be like an in house thing, you know,

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>like we knew but the fans didn't know. And at

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 2>some point, because the whole Rick Rude angle, I figured

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>it's another arsenal for something Paul could use. Where Shane

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 2>finds out that Francine sang on Rick Rude's music and

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>how can we.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Never did that? That's something we never did, but no

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>one knew. That was me, not a clue.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>And what I loved about it was, you know, okay,

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>because of the time constraints, we had Elk's Lodge. On

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>a Friday, my writing partner Roder Raccone came to the show.

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>We all went back to Rod's studio, which was in

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>a terrible part of the Lower East Side.

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>See I don't remember much of this.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Well do you remember this? When we pulled up and

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>there was a bunch of women and you said, why

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>are they out there? And I said, oh, because they're

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 2>crack horse?

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why are these women out here at four in

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the morning.

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the horse. You might play one on TV,

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>but they play one in real life.

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>My memory is shit, honestly, like I think because of

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like the concussions that I've had. And then I blame

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it on pregnancy too, because they say when you get pregnant,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you forget. I don't remember. I have forgotten more than

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember. Unfortunately. That makes me super sad because people

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>will trigger my memory, like sometimes I'll go, oh, yeah,

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that's right, and then I'll remember the night that I

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>was with you. All I remember is just it was

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>super duper late, and we were jotting things down, like

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>on a piece of paper or something, and I remember

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>singing into a micro if you call it, say it

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even singing.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 2>But great. I wrote the lyrics as we were there. Yeah,

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I had the lyrics in my head. I just didn't

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>have them on paper. I'm not a good pen and

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>paper thing when it comes to music. I keep everything

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 2>in my head. I've got thirty songs here right now,

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>but none of them are on paper.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But I was writing it down because I wanted to

0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>have I didn't want to mess up.

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I think I wrote it down and you couldn't read

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>my writing.

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>So I rewrote it down. Yeah, Okay, so I'm singing

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this song. I don't even know why, don't know what happened.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I just was told go with Harry. At this point,

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I knew you long enough that I trusted you. I'm like, okay,

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and I do remember the next morning you dropping me

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>off at Dreamer's house and then I drove with him

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to Philly. Yes, I remember that.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>You stayed at my house, separate bedrooms, separate rooms.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're a complete gentleman. I must say thank you. Yes,

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>my funny business. But then it was super early, and

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember I had to go and I went to

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Dreamers and then we all went to the arena.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was the arena the next day.

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Philly.

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, then I must have shown up afterwards.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I think it was Philly. I could be wrong,

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I just said my memories crap. But

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I just remember going to his house for whatever reason,

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and then getting in the car and taking a trip.

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But I never, like, I was never told why am

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I doing this? Like I never had there was no

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>concept behind it. It's just like You're gonna sing rick song.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, and then I'm thinking Okay,

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Well when it comes on, is everybody gonna like point? No,

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>one even, like I don't even know if they were

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>listening to this song. But years later when I tell people,

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>they'll google it or they'll pull it up on YouTube

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be like, that was.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 4>You, and I'm like, yeah, we did it on the air.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I had no clue. I never even thought twice about it.

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>And then when we listened to it and I really

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>was like listening, I was like, oh, yeah, that's you.

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>That was me.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, that that was something I had to fight. Honestly.

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:43.959
<v Speaker 2>I had to fight Paul on it. He's like, no,

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>you can use there's other singers. I'm like, no, no.

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>No, you know, but who would do it for free? Paul?

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I need you get paid for that special uh? That

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>special track that I recorded?

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, I I saw it like if

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>people found out it's something that they could use in.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>The angle, right, And we never we never did any

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff.

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Nobody ever figured it out.

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>No, I know, like, oh cool, but it was fun

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>because that was something like that Rob Van Dam's video

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>where I had to dance around. That was so terrible.

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Paul said he wouldn't er it but he said, my

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>my piece was the saving grace, but he still wouldn't

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>er it.

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen that video?

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've seen it. It was really but that's what

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>they told us to do. Yeah, you know what I mean.

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.239
<v Speaker 1>But like, I never I never thought I would be

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like a video vixen dancing around and they're like lipsing

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know the song, like what is

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the song? You know? But that and like singing it

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of got me out of my element and let

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>me like now, honestly, like I never want to to

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>be like a singer after I did that, But I

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>said to myself, this was something I probably would never

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>ever get a chance in my life to do. And

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it was something fun, you know, and we made it

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>fun even though I was exhausted. I just remember you

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and I staring at each other and laughing, and because

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>we were at the point of like it was super

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>duper late, I knew I had to get up early,

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and I knew I had to be somewhere else, and

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, oh my god, what am I doing?

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, But it's it's something I'm I I'm happy

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that I did. Yeah me, it got me to you

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>know bond with you more because I only knew you

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>as Harry Paul's friend at the you know, I pose.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That many people knew I was doing the music either. Yeah,

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't put myself over in the back

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 2>and you know have a T shirt that says I'm

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the rock.

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Star and oh you were very quiet.

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I saw the production being more important, you know, the

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff I would do with the live events and behind

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the scenes as being far more important than the music,

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, you know, because it could

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.399
<v Speaker 2>have been any other song playing. You know, but who's

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>going to sneak sit into the building, who's going to

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 2>get this done, Who's going to distribute a thousand heads

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>in five minutes? Yes, that was, in my opinion, far

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 2>more more important and more noteworthy than recording and writing

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>the music. I also found it really cool that you

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>ended up they ended up using that same music, the

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>same song remixed for you later on, if you remember.

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I yeah, I think they did it without

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the vocals, right, Yeah.

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Originally Paul wanted me to do that, take the words out,

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 2>remix it, change it a little to use for Tammy. Okay,

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>But the writing was on the wall where she was

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>headed and never ended up being used for her and

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>ended up being used for you.

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Interesting, okay, well that makes sense. I guess you

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>know it worked bit.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 2>You know, I thought it was ironic, but you know, hey,

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you know people dug it. You know they used it

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 2>on the live events when you would come out by yourself, right,

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>they were using the remix of simply Ravishing. I forget

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>what we renamed. I think we called it TNA ninety

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 2>nine or something.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 4>That's a great name.

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I remember the simply ravishing part. Yeah,

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>oh god, how funny. That's bringing me back. That's hilarious.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think, like.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Wait, can I did you hear his simply Ravishing music

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 3>from WCW.

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 4>Did they play that for you at all?

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Harry?

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 4>No, because it.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.959
<v Speaker 3>It's weird, it's not it sounds in the same vein,

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 3>but it's a completely different song.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 4>That's like a more it's lyrical.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 2>It's because we all off the David Rose song The Stripper.

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny because when we listened to it on

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 3>the air again, I hadn't heard it, you know, in ages,

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 3>and I said that I was like, well, I was like, man,

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.959
<v Speaker 3>I was like, he ravishing Rick ruits got pretty damn

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 3>good music out there in the universe.

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, trying to be breathy.

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you did. If I remember correctly, we did different

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 2>takes of different voices. Probably one was more of a

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 2>nasty voice, but then we went with the breathy Marilyn

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Monroe kind of thing, which is what we ended up using.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, hilarious. I don't know. I just found it, like, okay,

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I could say I did a I recorded a song.

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that no one knows it's me, but that's okay.

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Bring in the morning in a studio surrounded by crack horse.

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 4>There you go. You should have the crack horse on backup.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>They should have been in the background doing the doomy

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's hilarious. Well, I do you still talk to Paul.

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Via electronic medium? Once in a blue moon?

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Once in a blue moon.

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>The last time I saw him was at his father's funeral.

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I went to his dad's funeral because I knew his

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>dad and he was a great guy. But the crazy

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Paul Hayman that I knew ceased to exist the day

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>his daughter was born. And I'm not saying that in

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 2>a bad way. I'm saying in a great way that

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>the moment he had a child, his priorities changed, of course,

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>which is awesome. Yeah, you know, he's still basically the

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>same guy, but he's not, which is a good thing.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying in a bad way at all.

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And I can totally relate because when I had my children,

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not about me anymore. It's about them. Yeah, you know,

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>so you do have to change your priorities.

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Maybe when his son graduates, I'll get a call at

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 2>four in the morning saying meet me at Sarges. Response

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 2>will be no, I'm too old to go to the

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Elliott five in the morning, right.

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Well, I want to thank you because,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>like people don't know, you're one of the unsung heroes

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 1>within our company. Like you, you know there there, we

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>had a core group. We were a family. We say

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>this all the time. You were a part of that family,

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and like all of us, if something needed to be

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>done and we had the time to do it, of

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>course we would do it. But there were people like

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you who would be in the back and you would

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>be sitting there and if something needed to be done,

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you would be one of the first to jump up

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and go do it. I remember you took me to

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>was it the mall? The night it was you the

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Bikini Showdown? And first of all, it wasn't even bikini weather,

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>oh mid winter. It was winter. So Paul says, we

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.240
<v Speaker 1>have a lull that I don't have anything big for tonight.

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Can you do a bikini contest with Dawn? So I'm like, oh, really,

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>we didn't really do those, you know, And I said, well,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a bikini, and he says, I'll give

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you money. Go to the store. And here Dawn didn't

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>have to wear the bikini. I was the only one

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>who had to wear the bikini. So he says, go

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to the store, and I said, well, how am I

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>supposed to get to this store? Here comes Harry.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 2>We didn't buy bikinis.

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're when did we go?

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I forget, but we went to two or three different

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:46.240
<v Speaker 2>places looking for swimwear and we ended up buying underwear.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 1>We bought lingerie. Yes that you could see through it, yes,

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't realize you can see through it. And

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>thank god I was like completely shaven, because if I wasn't,

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>But I said to myself, where the hell am I

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I needed a robe and I need it. Uh yeah,

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I needed a bikini, but you know, Harry jumped up.

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll take her. And that's the kind of crew that

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>we had. So you know you. I don't know if

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>people like said thank you to you in the past.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I know I have, but I'll say it again, like,

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 1>without guys like you, we would have been in chaos

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>because we would have been running around like chickens without heads.

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, because a lot of us couldn't physically leave

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the building. We needed to stay there. So it wasn't

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>for people like you, we'd be screwed.

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 2>What was funny about that is because we could only

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>find underwear at one point, like I need to ask

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you for a favor, can you see my And I'm like,

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>you really want me to look there? Come on?

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Lynn always says this. I always asked them, do

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I have camel tooe? I trusted you guys like you

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>were my brothers. I just trusted everybody, So I need

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>an opinion.

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>So for you, for you fans out there, there was

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 2>one time in my life where I had to get

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 2>on my knees and stare at Francine's crotch.

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 4>I had to get my knees hard night at work.

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Lord, Hey, you know somebody had to do it. You know,

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I took one for the team.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>You did, and I appreciate it, and I thank you.

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, like I said, you did a lot

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>for us, and it might have seemed to you like

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody appreciated you. I always did, so yeah, thank you

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 1>for being I mean I.

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Had a lot of fun with you. I mean that's

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>when people ask me if I missed ec W, I say, no,

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>what I miss is hanging out with the people and

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>just you know, having.

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Fun, because we had a lot of fun.

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yea, they had a lot of fun. There

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>was I remember I forget what episode of south Park

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:59.360
<v Speaker 2>where Cartman started doing I Want to Sing and the Alien?

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Are you interesting that in the back all the time

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I would do a dance.

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Remember, yes, for weeks for weeks.

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I have to go back and watch

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 5>that episode because we would be sitting there for hours

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 5>waiting to either get paid or do promos.

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like, Okay, I'm going to do some

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, some song and dance and entertain these people.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>That's how I am. Yeah, and you either hated me

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and told me to get the hell out of your

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>face or people would clap along with me to watch

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>me do.

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know, there's one other thing. I remember when

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 2>you got hurt when Bam Bam dropped you. Yeah, okay,

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 2>this is afterwards, you're we're all back at the hotel, okay,

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and people are hanging out in your room. Yes, okay,

0:43:54.480 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>this is where I bring up another unsung hero has Yeah, yeah, okay.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 2>It was one of the guys that wasn't really an

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.879
<v Speaker 2>ECW guy. I think it was an ex WWE guy

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 2>that was in the company at the time that had

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a notorious reputation for taking advantage of women that couldn't

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 2>defend themselves.

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you're talking about.

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:20.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to mention the name. You can mention

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 2>it if you want. But he came.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 4>We talked about it before. We we we talked about

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 4>it before. But you can continue.

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Are we talking about an express kind of guy?

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Continue?

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 4>Just continue the story.

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>So when he heard that you were all markoed up

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 2>on painkillers in your hotel room or whatever they gave you,

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, his eyes lit up, and he came

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 2>to see how you're doing. He walks in the door.

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Paul gets up and he grabs me and Has he's

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>come with me. He goes over to the guy says,

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 2>this is what's going to happen. You're going to say, hey,

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.959
<v Speaker 2>I hope you're feeling better, and you're going to leave.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to come back because if anything happens

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:06.439
<v Speaker 2>to this woman, this is my friend Has and this

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 2>is Harry. They're gonna take care of you. And the

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 2>guy's like, what are you talking about? And Has looks

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:13.839
<v Speaker 2>at the guy dead eye. He goes, I have a

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 2>portable settling torch in the trunk of my car and

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 2>three days cutting you into small pieces.

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, thank you, and he looks.

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>He looks at me. He goes, what are you gonna do?

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna watch and have fun.

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Well here's the thing. And it's funny you mentioned this

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 1>because I was on Delauded because our resident doctor who

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>was really a foot doctor that was friends with Raven.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>He took me to the hospital and got the X

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>rays and it was broken. You all know the story.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And he says, give her the good stuff. I think

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Paul said, put her on Delauded. That'll help her. Right,

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I come back and everybody's trying like where's the delauded

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>in your purse? And I'm like, and I only have thirtie,

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like get out here. But I think they they they

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>gave me a pill like when I was there, so

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm loopy and you knew me. I wasn't really I

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't into drugs, right, And I remember being one beer beer, yeah,

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>like I would have a cocktailer or two and that

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was it. But I remember being in the bed and

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>my roommate was Michael Farren because Michael was taking care

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>of me that night, and all the boys were in

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 1>the room. I remember what you're talking about. He came

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 1>in and I had thirty of the party was in

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.439
<v Speaker 1>my room. There was like thirty guys and just hanging out.

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 1>And cause I and I didn't do much, I still

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>had I remember I had my hospital galing on and

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I was just out of it and I was just

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of sitting there and people had the TV on,

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.399
<v Speaker 1>there was a case of beer and whatever. The next day,

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Dreamer tells me, do you believe that? So and

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:53.439
<v Speaker 1>so asked me if we should do like a gang

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>bang because you were on your drug and I was like,

0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>what and he's like, oh, I grabbed him and I

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>basically he goes, I want to throw him out of

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the room. He goes when he suggested that, I was like,

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>get the fuck out of here, and he just got

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>really like intent and I was just like, who does

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing?

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Thank God? Like I thank god to this day that

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>company that I was with wasn't a bunch of scumbags,

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.439
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Because if it was anybody else,

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>something bad could have happened to me.

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 2>And he and his partner disappeared from the company shortly

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>after that. But Has what we call he was the

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 2>arms master in the video game Uh huh okay. The

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Dudlings actually said they were afraid of him because he

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>used to eat Soldier of Fortune magazine on the bathroom

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and order stuff out of Soldier.

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Of Fortune grenades.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 6>Oh.

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Has has kept a list of everybody's injury.

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:47:56.719 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 2>He had to exploit it. And when Sid came into

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the company, Has was staring at him and looking at him.

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I got to figure out how to take

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 2>this guy down, you know, you know if something happened

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and the next week at the arena, Has Has had

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 2>an army issued taser with one of those thirty foot

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 2>courts just for sid in case something.

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Think about it. You're a young girl, you know, I'm

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 1>super young. I get hurt, you come back, And not

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>one thought crossed my mind than anyone any one of

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>these guys would try to take advantage of me. And

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 1>that's why I was just like, oh, yeah, they can come.

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Because everybody kept saying, we want to come see you,

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, you all can come up to

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the room if you want to drink, and people were

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 1>bringing their beer and whatever they were doing. And then

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy who is an outsider because he wasn't one

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 1>of us now, but when I heard that he did that,

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 1>it honestly like I hated him. And I never said

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>anything about it to anyone because I didn't want any heat.

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'm thinking, God forbid, what a predator like? Who

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>who says that? And thank God that you guys all

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>had my back. And that's all I'm saying, because you

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:13.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like if it was in another company, bad

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff might have happened.

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 2>If it was an episode of Dark side of the

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<v Speaker 2>Ring Waiting, if he had come back to the room,

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<v Speaker 2>he would have not made it out of Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, Scarry All wasn't kidding when he told

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<v Speaker 7>the guy that me and Has would spend three days

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<v Speaker 7>torturing him unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess he didn't understand the camaraderie and the

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<v Speaker 1>family bond that we all had together because he was

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<v Speaker 1>literally politicking to get this done and everybody's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>him like are you crazy? Like and I'm oblivious. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like sitting there like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, oh you You weren't even part of the universe. You.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just I mean, I remember everybody coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and out, but I was just chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>You were so narcoed out that night.

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<v Speaker 1>The long is no joke, bro, I broke my hip.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on and basically the lad is synthetic heroine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what they gave me, and people were reaching

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<v Speaker 1>for my person, like, get the hell out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Had this guy even done anything the Paul kept me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the reason Paul brought me around originally was

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<v Speaker 2>not for music. It was because he knew I was

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<v Speaker 2>a psycho, you know from.

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<v Speaker 7>You there, Harry and then you like an arsenal of weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, just just another reason for me to express

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<v Speaker 1>my love for you and say thank you because God forbid, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think has was the one that did the makeup

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<v Speaker 2>when you were supposed to have a black eye.

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<v Speaker 1>My black guy in New York. Yeah, I did his

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit of seventy six with Jason and he did my

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<v Speaker 1>My my black eye. Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like Ivory. You could do anything if you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Give him a piece of gum and a string and

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<v Speaker 1>he would make a bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring a piece of gum, two big lighters, and a

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<v Speaker 2>tune of sandwich. Why the tuna sandwich? Well, I'm hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I can talk for hours here, but unfortunately we are

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<v Speaker 1>out of time. Is there any are you on social

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<v Speaker 1>media at all that people can follow your band once we.

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<v Speaker 2>Get going Twitter? Harry Slash on various, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a website right now because somebody held it hostage. You

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<v Speaker 2>build it and decided they wanted three times the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money we agreed on, so they've pulled my content.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though there is a Harry Slash and a slash

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 2>tones ww thing out there, there's nothing attached to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the time being, because there's no reason to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything until the pandemic's over. I can be found

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook at Harry Slash on Twitter at Harry Slash

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and Instagram on Harry Slash, where I post stupid ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sounds good. Well, I advise everyone to follow him

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<v Speaker 1>because he's a very funny man. But I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 1>we got to chat, and I hope I see you

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<v Speaker 1>again because I mean, you're one of the good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank I mean when when I last I saw you,

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<v Speaker 2>we exchanged InFocus. I was supposed to take a ride

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<v Speaker 2>down a Jersey Yeah, yeah, and you know.

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<v Speaker 7>That globe thanks pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we'll get it done eventually, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If I ever make it up to

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<v Speaker 1>New York, I'll let you know and we can thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do something. But I'm glad you came today

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish you nothing but success.

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<v Speaker 2>In love and back at you, Frannie. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure talking to you, even if it was through a

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<v Speaker 2>computer screen.

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<v Speaker 1>No, next time it'll be live good.

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<v Speaker 2>But next time I'll have my new teeth me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting braces.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I had. I had an accident earlier this year

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<v Speaker 2>and I crack four of my front teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Ou Oh okay, Well, we'll both have new smiles, so that'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be and in the process of root canals, and then

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<v Speaker 2>in two weeks I get caps.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well there's a stupid accent. My friend thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was in dry when he was in reverse and he

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<v Speaker 2>hit a tree and I went right into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Ouch, Harry, that's extreme. Did you get up and say

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<v Speaker 4>that you know this is extreme?

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<v Speaker 2>No sold it? I no sold it and we went,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and just kept moving on. The next day

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<v Speaker 2>I was had my lip was blown up and there

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<v Speaker 2>you go. Parts of my teeth were falling out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, Well, good luck and I hope to speak

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<v Speaker 1>with you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend back at you was a pleasure. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for having me on the show. Guys, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye. Yeah franc.

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