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Speaker 1: So, Harry, I'm happy to see you.

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, I saw you right before the pandemic. I

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Speaker 1: believe January of last year you stopped by the Wrestling Universe.

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Speaker 1: Was it something like that, Yeah, Jack Sabbath, Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: so Shane and I got to chit chat with you

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Speaker 1: there for a long It's greatful.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was not January. I think that was before.

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Speaker 1: That was No, that was my last signing. It was

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Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty. Okay, that was the last signing

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Speaker 1: I did in person, and I saw you there. I

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Speaker 1: was happy to see you because it had a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's start with this. What have you been up

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Speaker 1: to lately?

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Speaker 2: Sitting in the same chair I'm talking to you now

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Speaker 2: for the last year.

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Speaker 1: Well, besides that working on music? Are you a real job?

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Speaker 1: Like what's going on in the world.

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Speaker 2: Prior to the pandemic. I was about to start rehearsals.

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Speaker 2: I had about a dozen shows booked for last year.

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Speaker 2: I was going to be getting on the Newport Folk Festival,

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Speaker 2: which is a really really big music event up at Newport,

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Speaker 2: Rhode Island, and then it all disappeared. So I, like

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Speaker 2: everybody else in my universe, have been writing this out

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Speaker 2: most of the people I know or in the entertainment

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Speaker 2: world in some form or another, and it all came

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Speaker 2: to a crashing hal last February, last March. Yep, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of my friends are not doing so well.

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Speaker 2: I I'm okay for the time being. I could ride

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Speaker 2: this out for another six months to a year if

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Speaker 2: I have to, but others can't.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Right now, New York is trying to figure things out.

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Speaker 2: I believe live entertainment will start shortly, but at like

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Speaker 2: minimum capacity, which trying to do a live show with

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent capacity, you're just bleeding money. You're not

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Speaker 2: making any money. You're losing money. You know. As far

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Speaker 2: as recording studios, that came to the grinding hole too,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the higher end studios will only

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Speaker 2: take one client day and you're paying for like twelve

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Speaker 2: hours but only working for eight because the first two

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Speaker 2: and last two they dedicate to completely sanitizing the place.

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Speaker 2: And even still, my good friend, my my saxophone player

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Speaker 2: did a session and he got COVID Wow, even though

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Speaker 2: he was the only person in the booth. You know,

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Speaker 2: it may have been from the session, it may not

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Speaker 2: have been but he was super careful and then the

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Speaker 2: next thing you know, he spent about like a week

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Speaker 2: and a half in the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow. You know, as far as I know, the apes

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Speaker 2: haven't started talking yet, so you know, as soon as

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Speaker 2: that happens, I'm done, I'm out of here.

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Speaker 1: Well are you still with the Slash Tunes?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, the Slash Tones is basically anybody I'm playing

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Speaker 2: with at that moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just rotate and yeah, yeah, going on like

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Speaker 1: thirty different people in and out of that band at

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Speaker 1: one point or another. Yeah. Right, So I met you

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Speaker 1: obviously through eth W. Yeah, you were friends with Paul Haman. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How did your friendship with him come about? Like? Where

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Speaker 1: did you meet Paul? I know, I know the story,

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Speaker 1: but people don't. I want people to know how you

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Speaker 1: got into this wacky world, Professor I met.

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Speaker 2: I met Paul Hayman waiting online to use the bathroom

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Speaker 2: at the China Club, Okay, and had absolutely no idea

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Speaker 2: because I wasn't watching wrestling back then.

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Speaker 1: Now, what year was this.

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Speaker 2: Ninety?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So was he in WCW at the time?

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Speaker 2: Probably? Honestly, I yes, yes, I think he was in

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Speaker 2: WC wherever it was that he won the Manager of

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Speaker 2: the Year award for Pro Wrestling Illustrated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I think it was WC Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably WCW because there was one time

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Speaker 2: at the Limelight. You know, I'd been channel surf, you know,

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Speaker 2: hitting the clicker, and you know, I came across some

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Speaker 2: and then that Sunday night at the Limelight, I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: they had this stupid fencing match. It was hysterical. It

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Speaker 2: was him that I was talking about, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: Him, right. Did he take offense to that?

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Speaker 2: No? He thought it was great because I was actually

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Speaker 2: one of the few people within the club world that

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Speaker 2: I just knew Paul, right, I didn't know what a

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Speaker 2: Polly dangerously was.

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Speaker 1: How did you know You're waiting to go to the bathroom,

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Speaker 1: like do you go, you do your duty, you come

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Speaker 1: out and you see him again, and you just strake

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Speaker 1: up a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Actually, no, okay, all right, it's been a long time,

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Speaker 2: so I might as well talk about this. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: going into the bathroom to use the bathroom. I was

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Speaker 2: going into the bathroom to take a couple of hits

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Speaker 2: upot okay. And he was online behind me, and I'm like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 2: if you need to piss ahead, I'm not gonna pee,

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Speaker 2: you know, but don't get weird on me or anything,

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Speaker 2: because I'm gonna have to beat the hell out of you.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so he's like, well, I don't really need

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Speaker 2: to pee either, and we ended up in the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a cocaine drug thing. It was I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to smoke weed and he wanted to smoke a

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Speaker 2: had a secrets ten, you know, the cough drop ten. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that I kept the pot in. And he describes it

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Speaker 2: like the briefcase in pulp fiction where you open it

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Speaker 2: up and light emanas from it, Like his eyes lit up.

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Speaker 2: It's like, what is that? Trees? And we smoked a

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Speaker 2: couple of bowls and then we hung out and the

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Speaker 2: next thing, I know, every time I go to it

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Speaker 2: those really cool clubs that no longer exist there he was,

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Speaker 2: so for couple of years, I'd be hanging out with

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Speaker 2: the guy three nights a week. Had no idea what

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Speaker 2: he did for a living, but because of the way

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Speaker 2: people treated him, I thought he was either like a

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Speaker 2: restaurant owner, a mobster, a drug dealer, pornographer, And it

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Speaker 2: turns out he was a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Of all of them, we come to find out right.

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Speaker 3: Very hard to believe, by the way, with all the

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Speaker 3: posters and pictures behind you, that you would partake in

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Speaker 3: such debauchery in the bathroom there.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so you mean to tell me that you

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Speaker 1: hang out with Paul all this time and his wrestling

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Speaker 1: never pops up to you, not at all.

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Speaker 2: There was one time I dropped a friend off at

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Speaker 2: I'm leaving the terminal, he's walking in. He's going on

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Speaker 2: the same flight because it was a connecting flight in Atlanta, Okay,

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Speaker 2: And like, Hey, what are you doing here? He's like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm going down to Atlanta, Atlanta. What the hell are

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Speaker 2: you going on? Atlanta? For and that's when he remembered

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what he did. I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: mail it in?

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Speaker 1: And he's even bullshitting you now, not.

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Speaker 2: Really bullshitting me. It's like he didn't see a reason

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Speaker 2: to bring it up.

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Speaker 1: I guess he was bullshitting it.

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Speaker 2: Probably Probably guy really had no idea what he did

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Speaker 2: for a living. It was just some cool dude I'd

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Speaker 2: like to hang out with.

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Speaker 1: So what happens when you find out like are you

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Speaker 1: like taking aback?

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Speaker 4: Are you like what?

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Speaker 1: Because it's it's a.

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Speaker 2: Weird, you know, it's very weird considering all the other

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Speaker 2: promoters would be like, hey, Paulie, here's some drink tickets.

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Speaker 2: So I figured, all right, this guy's a wise guy.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't make a difference to me. There's a club event.

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Speaker 2: I forget what they renamed the club, but it was

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Speaker 2: a very famous club in New York called Octagon, and

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Speaker 2: I knew the promoters in there, and they had a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch. It was like three floors, so they had

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Speaker 2: all sorts of events. They had a fashion show, they

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Speaker 2: had a jam session. They had this going on, that

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Speaker 2: going on, and then the presentation of the Manager of

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Speaker 2: the Year award to Paul Dangerously. That's great. I didn't

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Speaker 2: go for the Polly Dangerously thing. I went because all

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Speaker 2: my friends were in the in the band that were playing.

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Speaker 2: So I get to the club, I go up to

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Speaker 2: time he's not wearing cowboy boots and jeans and a

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Speaker 2: of it. He's like, what are you doing here? It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I came for the jam to support Matt and Steve,

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Speaker 2: who were the promoters, and there's some stupid wrestling thing

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Speaker 2: going on. I check that effect my exact words. About

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Speaker 2: an hour later, I go back up to the VIP room.

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Speaker 2: They've got a six foot toll projection screen showing the

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Speaker 2: best of Polly Dangerously.

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Speaker 1: And that's when it clicks for you.

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Speaker 2: Not yet, look at you. I look at Paul to

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Speaker 2: get hit ahead.

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Speaker 4: With the ass that's the pot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I look at the screen, I look at Paul,

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Speaker 2: I look back at the screen. I look back at Paul,

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Speaker 2: and the first thought that came into my mind is, oh, wow,

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Speaker 2: my friend is one of those freaks that dresses up

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Speaker 2: like pro wrestlers.

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Speaker 1: So you're just thinking in your head he looks like

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Speaker 1: poly dangerously.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking he's a cosplayer.

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Speaker 1: Oh dear god, Harry.

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Speaker 2: I didn't It didn't really click. And then he comes up.

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Speaker 2: He puts his arm around my shoulder. He's like, so,

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Speaker 2: who is that handsome guy on the screen. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that's you. That's what you do for a living. Finally, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool. I don't know what to.

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Speaker 1: Say them after you called him an idiot forty times

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Speaker 1: and didn't know it.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 2: It was another time I was trying to do this

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Speaker 2: thing at the Ritz where I was telling him the

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Speaker 2: and like all sorts of weird stuff, and I kept

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Speaker 2: telling him about this stand up comedy routine about the

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Speaker 2: invisible wrestler, and it just didn't click. I wasn't watching

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Speaker 2: wrestling at the time, yeah, you know, and when I

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Speaker 2: when I would be channel surfing, it would be you know,

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Speaker 2: in the distance on a small screen. So it's not

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Speaker 2: like he was that recognizable. You know. We didn't have

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Speaker 2: high definition back in there.

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Speaker 1: You see him in this room, you know they're giving

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Speaker 1: an award out and then you think he's cosplaying kind

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Speaker 1: of one Harry, you're smart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, but it just two and two didn't

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Speaker 2: make that up to four at that moment because I

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Speaker 2: was out with the guy for a while, Yeah I did.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a clue that he was involved in that.

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Speaker 1: So so you're friends with him when he jumps over

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Speaker 1: to easy Dub at this point, Yes, you're aware of

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Speaker 2: But for Vince's TV, he needed soundlikes. Okay, Now, this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does four minutes. Jop it down.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I got to write the tune and

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Speaker 3: Let me, can I stump in for a second. So

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Speaker 2: Basically, it's you know, three out of four bars, you know,

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Speaker 2: booked twenty four hours in Eddie's studio in Yonkers or

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Speaker 2: So then we had the Manhattan Center and you know,

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 3: So the songs they played at the Manhattan Center that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad they didn't use the Sandman music for

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Speaker 1: Well, I I didn't watch it because Shane Douglas would

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Speaker 2: When don I thought I was done at that point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when when does it come to you? Or

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Speaker 2: Brother, I like this, I want to use it all

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Speaker 1: No, the music from New York. In New York, oh okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: With such a limited time to work, I figured, you

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Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a couple of things on there

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now you're doing songs individually for the boys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but still not something I expected to be an

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Speaker 2: be kidding me. No, you'll do it right. You're giving

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Speaker 1: Don't you regret going in the bathroom that night with Oh.

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Speaker 2: God, I should have just gotten high in the parking

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Speaker 2: lot for God's sake.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, I loved our theme. I loved. I absolutely

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Speaker 1: they use the most ridiculous music. And I mean, don't

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Speaker 1: they own your stuff?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why are they? Do you have any.

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Speaker 2: I've never gotten the network. I will not get Peacock,

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Speaker 2: So I couldn't answer what they're using. I have no clue.

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Speaker 1: your stuff at their feet and they're not using any

434
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: of it from.

435
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: What I'm talking. Wouldn't answer why they're not are they're

436
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: not even using the UCW theme.

437
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 3: I don't watch on the later shows that it's that

438
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: it was used on, Yes, but if you go back

439
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: to ninety five ninety six, it is just piped in

440
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: you know, musac very parrible.

441
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: This didn't mean so it would be anything after ninety

442
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 2: seven because it didn't exist before that.

443
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: Right, But you would think that they could just you know,

444
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 4: move it.

445
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: Over that instead of using the generic elevator music that

446
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: they're using. Why wouldn't they use the library that you

447
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: provided them.

448
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: I have no clue. I got some DVDs from them,

449
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 2: you know, they were supposed to send me everything. They

450
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: used my stuff, and on one of the DVD's that

451
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: they have Taz's music they overdubbed their own music.

452
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, remember that.

453
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm like this, why would you spend the money and

454
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: the time when you own it.

455
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: That's that's my point. That's what I'm trying to say.

456
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: Like they have all this stuff and they're not using it.

457
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: It just doesn't And it was good. I loved the

458
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: ECW theme. Like that to me when I hear that

459
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 1: to this day, this is so corny, but I get

460
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: like goosebumps because I just remember. But I remember being

461
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: at shows and hearing us play that, and I knew, okay,

462
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: we're starting, it's time, we're gonna work, We're gonna like

463
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: it brings me back years since being a performer and

464
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: here like that song told me, Okay, this show's about

465
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: to start. We're gonna do this, and it used to

466
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: get me pumped up. You know, I loved it. I

467
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: just thought it was so well done and it just

468
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: fits perfectly.

469
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, you know, Just just so you know, I've

470
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: I've mentioned this on other interviews. The inspiration for the

471
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: e c W theme came from the theme from Jaws.

472
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Ah.

473
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 4: Okay, I can see it now that you say it.

474
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you would watch the movie Jaws and

475
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: you'd hear bout yeah, you knew shit was about to

476
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: break off and it was about to be violent and bloody.

477
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: I love it.

478
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: So that's you know, you got that slow build and

479
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: then the whole thing just blows up. And that's what

480
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: we were going for, you know, get the audience, get

481
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: the people pumped, that the anticipation, and then damn, you know,

482
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: just go all out.

483
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: And that's kindly how I just described it, though, like

484
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: that's how I felt when they would play it. When

485
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: it would come on, my nerves would start to get

486
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: bad because I'm like, okay, we're starting. Oh my god,

487
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: I have to I have to do this. I have

488
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: to get ready this, you know, and it just it

489
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: just me. It woke me up and we were starting

490
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: our night. So it just fit perfectly. And I mean

491
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: to this day when I hear it, I get gooseyes,

492
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: I get the little goosebumps. I love it.

493
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: That was another one of those crazy things where I

494
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: had a deadline. I had to master Tazz's music, master

495
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: the Eliminator's music. We had to write and create the

496
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: extreme theme, and there was a couple of other tunes.

497
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: I think I did one for sasse K that never

498
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: got used because he brought his own music, Okay, and

499
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 2: then it all had to be done with it a

500
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: certain time because I had to be at the Terry Funk.

501
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: Banquet, another thing I wasn't allowed to go to.

502
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so our subjects brought up good to heal.

503
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Dang, let's talk about because I've mentioned this before and

504
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: it's so funny to this day, no one knew that

505
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: this was me, and I know, I think you know

506
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: what I'm going to refer to. I don't remember the

507
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: story about how this came about. All I remember is

508
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: going to your apartment or your studio or whatever it was,

509
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: and we were at three in the morning doing and

510
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: we had to show the next day. Why did Paul

511
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: make me do it?

512
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: It was my idea, to be honest. Yeah. Well, here's

513
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 2: the thing, Franny. Nobody gives you the credit for completely

514
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: transforming when you would go through that curtain. As far

515
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: as actors go, you were one of the best ones

516
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: in the company because the person backstage I liked the

517
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: person that went through the curtain. I wanted to hit

518
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: with rocks and everything about you, including the tone of

519
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: your voice changed when you were in the ring, when

520
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: you were on the microphone, and with enough little digital manipulation,

521
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: I knew that we could get away with it where

522
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: it would be like an in house thing, you know,

523
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: like we knew but the fans didn't know. And at

524
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: some point, because the whole Rick Rude angle, I figured

525
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: it's another arsenal for something Paul could use. Where Shane

526
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: finds out that Francine sang on Rick Rude's music and

527
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: how can we.

528
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: Never did that? That's something we never did, but no

529
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: one knew. That was me, not a clue.

530
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: And what I loved about it was, you know, okay,

531
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: because of the time constraints, we had Elk's Lodge. On

532
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: a Friday, my writing partner Roder Raccone came to the show.

533
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: We all went back to Rod's studio, which was in

534
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: a terrible part of the Lower East Side.

535
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: See I don't remember much of this.

536
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: Well do you remember this? When we pulled up and

537
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: there was a bunch of women and you said, why

538
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: are they out there? And I said, oh, because they're

539
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: crack horse?

540
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are these women out here at four in

541
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: the morning.

542
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: I don't know the horse. You might play one on TV,

543
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: but they play one in real life.

544
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: My memory is shit, honestly, like I think because of

545
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: like the concussions that I've had. And then I blame

546
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: it on pregnancy too, because they say when you get pregnant,

547
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: you forget. I don't remember. I have forgotten more than

548
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: I remember. Unfortunately. That makes me super sad because people

549
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: will trigger my memory, like sometimes I'll go, oh, yeah,

550
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: that's right, and then I'll remember the night that I

551
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: was with you. All I remember is just it was

552
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: super duper late, and we were jotting things down, like

553
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: on a piece of paper or something, and I remember

554
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: singing into a micro if you call it, say it

555
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: wasn't even singing.

556
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: But great. I wrote the lyrics as we were there. Yeah,

557
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: I had the lyrics in my head. I just didn't

558
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: have them on paper. I'm not a good pen and

559
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: paper thing when it comes to music. I keep everything

560
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: in my head. I've got thirty songs here right now,

561
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: but none of them are on paper.

562
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: But I was writing it down because I wanted to

563
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: have I didn't want to mess up.

564
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I think I wrote it down and you couldn't read

565
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: my writing.

566
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: So I rewrote it down. Yeah, Okay, so I'm singing

567
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: this song. I don't even know why, don't know what happened.

568
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: I just was told go with Harry. At this point,

569
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I knew you long enough that I trusted you. I'm like, okay,

570
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: and I do remember the next morning you dropping me

571
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: off at Dreamer's house and then I drove with him

572
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: to Philly. Yes, I remember that.

573
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: You stayed at my house, separate bedrooms, separate rooms.

574
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Yes, you're a complete gentleman. I must say thank you. Yes,

575
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: my funny business. But then it was super early, and

576
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: I remember I had to go and I went to

577
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: Dreamers and then we all went to the arena.

578
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the arena the next day.

579
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: I think it was Philly.

580
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: Okay, then I must have shown up afterwards.

581
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I think it was Philly. I could be wrong,

582
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: because you know, I just said my memories crap. But

583
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I just remember going to his house for whatever reason,

584
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: and then getting in the car and taking a trip.

585
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: But I never, like, I was never told why am

586
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I doing this? Like I never had there was no

587
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: concept behind it. It's just like You're gonna sing rick song.

588
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and then I'm thinking Okay,

589
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: Well when it comes on, is everybody gonna like point? No,

590
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: one even, like I don't even know if they were

591
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: listening to this song. But years later when I tell people,

592
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: they'll google it or they'll pull it up on YouTube

593
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, that was.

594
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: You, and I'm like, yeah, we did it on the air.

595
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: I had no clue. I never even thought twice about it.

596
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: And then when we listened to it and I really

597
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: was like listening, I was like, oh, yeah, that's you.

598
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: That was me.

599
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: Well, that that was something I had to fight. Honestly.

600
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 2: I had to fight Paul on it. He's like, no,

601
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: you can use there's other singers. I'm like, no, no.

602
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: No, you know, but who would do it for free? Paul?

603
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: I need you get paid for that special uh? That

604
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: special track that I recorded?

605
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I I saw it like if

606
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: people found out it's something that they could use in.

607
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: The angle, right, And we never we never did any

608
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: of that stuff.

609
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: Nobody ever figured it out.

610
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: No, I know, like, oh cool, but it was fun

611
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: because that was something like that Rob Van Dam's video

612
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: where I had to dance around. That was so terrible.

613
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Paul said he wouldn't er it but he said, my

614
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: my piece was the saving grace, but he still wouldn't

615
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: er it.

616
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that video?

617
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it. It was really but that's what

618
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: they told us to do. Yeah, you know what I mean.

619
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 1: But like, I never I never thought I would be

620
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: like a video vixen dancing around and they're like lipsing

621
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: and I don't even know the song, like what is

622
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: the song? You know? But that and like singing it

623
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: kind of got me out of my element and let

624
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: me like now, honestly, like I never want to to

625
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: be like a singer after I did that, But I

626
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: said to myself, this was something I probably would never

627
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: ever get a chance in my life to do. And

628
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: it was something fun, you know, and we made it

629
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: fun even though I was exhausted. I just remember you

630
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: and I staring at each other and laughing, and because

631
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: we were at the point of like it was super

632
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: duper late, I knew I had to get up early,

633
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: and I knew I had to be somewhere else, and

634
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, what am I doing?

635
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, But it's it's something I'm I I'm happy

636
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: that I did. Yeah me, it got me to you

637
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: know bond with you more because I only knew you

638
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: as Harry Paul's friend at the you know, I pose.

639
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: That many people knew I was doing the music either. Yeah,

640
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't put myself over in the back

641
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: and you know have a T shirt that says I'm

642
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: the rock.

643
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: Star and oh you were very quiet.

644
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: I saw the production being more important, you know, the

645
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: stuff I would do with the live events and behind

646
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: the scenes as being far more important than the music,

647
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, you know, because it could

648
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: have been any other song playing. You know, but who's

649
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: going to sneak sit into the building, who's going to

650
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: get this done, Who's going to distribute a thousand heads

651
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: in five minutes? Yes, that was, in my opinion, far

652
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: more more important and more noteworthy than recording and writing

653
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: the music. I also found it really cool that you

654
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: ended up they ended up using that same music, the

655
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: same song remixed for you later on, if you remember.

656
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: I think I yeah, I think they did it without

657
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: the vocals, right, Yeah.

658
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: Originally Paul wanted me to do that, take the words out,

659
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: remix it, change it a little to use for Tammy. Okay,

660
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: But the writing was on the wall where she was

661
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: headed and never ended up being used for her and

662
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: ended up being used for you.

663
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, okay, well that makes sense. I guess you

664
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: know it worked bit.

665
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: You know, I thought it was ironic, but you know, hey,

666
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: you know people dug it. You know they used it

667
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: on the live events when you would come out by yourself, right,

668
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: they were using the remix of simply Ravishing. I forget

669
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: what we renamed. I think we called it TNA ninety

670
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: nine or something.

671
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

672
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 4: That's a great name.

673
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I remember the simply ravishing part. Yeah,

674
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: oh god, how funny. That's bringing me back. That's hilarious.

675
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like.

676
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: Wait, can I did you hear his simply Ravishing music

677
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: from WCW.

678
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: Did they play that for you at all?

679
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Harry?

680
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: No, because it.

681
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 3: It's weird, it's not it sounds in the same vein,

682
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: but it's a completely different song.

683
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 4: That's like a more it's lyrical.

684
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: It's because we all off the David Rose song The Stripper.

685
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because when we listened to it on

686
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 3: the air again, I hadn't heard it, you know, in ages,

687
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: and I said that I was like, well, I was like, man,

688
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 3: I was like, he ravishing Rick ruits got pretty damn

689
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: good music out there in the universe.

690
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, trying to be breathy.

691
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you did. If I remember correctly, we did different

692
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: takes of different voices. Probably one was more of a

693
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: nasty voice, but then we went with the breathy Marilyn

694
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: Monroe kind of thing, which is what we ended up using.

695
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: Okay, hilarious. I don't know. I just found it, like, okay,

696
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: I could say I did a I recorded a song.

697
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah that no one knows it's me, but that's okay.

698
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: Bring in the morning in a studio surrounded by crack horse.

699
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 4: There you go. You should have the crack horse on backup.

700
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: They should have been in the background doing the doomy

701
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious. Well, I do you still talk to Paul.

702
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: Via electronic medium? Once in a blue moon?

703
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: Once in a blue moon.

704
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: The last time I saw him was at his father's funeral.

705
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: I went to his dad's funeral because I knew his

706
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: dad and he was a great guy. But the crazy

707
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Paul Hayman that I knew ceased to exist the day

708
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: his daughter was born. And I'm not saying that in

709
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: a bad way. I'm saying in a great way that

710
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: the moment he had a child, his priorities changed, of course,

711
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: which is awesome. Yeah, you know, he's still basically the

712
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: same guy, but he's not, which is a good thing.

713
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying in a bad way at all.

714
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: And I can totally relate because when I had my children,

715
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: it's not about me anymore. It's about them. Yeah, you know,

716
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: so you do have to change your priorities.

717
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: Maybe when his son graduates, I'll get a call at

718
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: four in the morning saying meet me at Sarges. Response

719
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: will be no, I'm too old to go to the

720
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: Elliott five in the morning, right.

721
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: I get it. Well, I want to thank you because,

722
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: like people don't know, you're one of the unsung heroes

723
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: within our company. Like you, you know there there, we

724
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: had a core group. We were a family. We say

725
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: this all the time. You were a part of that family,

726
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: and like all of us, if something needed to be

727
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: done and we had the time to do it, of

728
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: course we would do it. But there were people like

729
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: you who would be in the back and you would

730
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: be sitting there and if something needed to be done,

731
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: you would be one of the first to jump up

732
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: and go do it. I remember you took me to

733
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: was it the mall? The night it was you the

734
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: Bikini Showdown? And first of all, it wasn't even bikini weather,

735
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: oh mid winter. It was winter. So Paul says, we

736
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: have a lull that I don't have anything big for tonight.

737
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: Can you do a bikini contest with Dawn? So I'm like, oh, really,

738
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: we didn't really do those, you know, And I said, well,

739
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't have a bikini, and he says, I'll give

740
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: you money. Go to the store. And here Dawn didn't

741
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: have to wear the bikini. I was the only one

742
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: who had to wear the bikini. So he says, go

743
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: to the store, and I said, well, how am I

744
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: supposed to get to this store? Here comes Harry.

745
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: We didn't buy bikinis.

746
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: If you're when did we go?

747
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: I forget, but we went to two or three different

748
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 2: places looking for swimwear and we ended up buying underwear.

749
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: We bought lingerie. Yes that you could see through it, yes,

750
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize you can see through it. And

751
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: thank god I was like completely shaven, because if I wasn't,

752
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: But I said to myself, where the hell am I

753
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: I needed a robe and I need it. Uh yeah,

754
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: I needed a bikini, but you know, Harry jumped up.

755
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: I'll take her. And that's the kind of crew that

756
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: we had. So you know you. I don't know if

757
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: people like said thank you to you in the past.

758
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: I know I have, but I'll say it again, like,

759
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: without guys like you, we would have been in chaos

760
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: because we would have been running around like chickens without heads.

761
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of us couldn't physically leave

762
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: the building. We needed to stay there. So it wasn't

763
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: for people like you, we'd be screwed.

764
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: What was funny about that is because we could only

765
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: find underwear at one point, like I need to ask

766
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: you for a favor, can you see my And I'm like,

767
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: you really want me to look there? Come on?

768
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: Jerry Lynn always says this. I always asked them, do

769
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I have camel tooe? I trusted you guys like you

770
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: were my brothers. I just trusted everybody, So I need

771
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: an opinion.

772
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: So for you, for you fans out there, there was

773
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: one time in my life where I had to get

774
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: on my knees and stare at Francine's crotch.

775
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: I had to get my knees hard night at work.

776
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: Lord, Hey, you know somebody had to do it. You know,

777
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: I took one for the team.

778
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: You did, and I appreciate it, and I thank you.

779
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, you did a lot

780
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: for us, and it might have seemed to you like

781
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: nobody appreciated you. I always did, so yeah, thank you

782
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: for being I mean I.

783
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: Had a lot of fun with you. I mean that's

784
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: when people ask me if I missed ec W, I say, no,

785
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: what I miss is hanging out with the people and

786
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: just you know, having.

787
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: Fun, because we had a lot of fun.

788
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: Oh god, yea, they had a lot of fun. There

789
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: was I remember I forget what episode of south Park

790
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: where Cartman started doing I Want to Sing and the Alien?

791
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Are you interesting that in the back all the time

792
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: I would do a dance.

793
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: Remember, yes, for weeks for weeks.

794
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I have to go back and watch

795
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: that episode because we would be sitting there for hours

796
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: waiting to either get paid or do promos.

797
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, Okay, I'm going to do some

798
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, some song and dance and entertain these people.

799
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: That's how I am. Yeah, and you either hated me

800
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: and told me to get the hell out of your

801
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: face or people would clap along with me to watch

802
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: me do.

803
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, there's one other thing. I remember when

804
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: you got hurt when Bam Bam dropped you. Yeah, okay,

805
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: this is afterwards, you're we're all back at the hotel, okay,

806
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: and people are hanging out in your room. Yes, okay,

807
00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: this is where I bring up another unsung hero has Yeah, yeah, okay.

808
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: It was one of the guys that wasn't really an

809
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 2: ECW guy. I think it was an ex WWE guy

810
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: that was in the company at the time that had

811
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: a notorious reputation for taking advantage of women that couldn't

812
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: defend themselves.

813
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about.

814
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention the name. You can mention

815
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: it if you want. But he came.

816
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: We talked about it before. We we we talked about

817
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: it before. But you can continue.

818
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: Are we talking about an express kind of guy?

819
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: Continue?

820
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: Just continue the story.

821
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: So when he heard that you were all markoed up

822
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: on painkillers in your hotel room or whatever they gave you,

823
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, his eyes lit up, and he came

824
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: to see how you're doing. He walks in the door.

825
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: Paul gets up and he grabs me and Has he's

826
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: come with me. He goes over to the guy says,

827
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen. You're going to say, hey,

828
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 2: I hope you're feeling better, and you're going to leave.

829
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: You're not going to come back because if anything happens

830
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 2: to this woman, this is my friend Has and this

831
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: is Harry. They're gonna take care of you. And the

832
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: guy's like, what are you talking about? And Has looks

833
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: at the guy dead eye. He goes, I have a

834
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: portable settling torch in the trunk of my car and

835
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: three days cutting you into small pieces.

836
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you, and he looks.

837
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: He looks at me. He goes, what are you gonna do?

838
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch and have fun.

839
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. And it's funny you mentioned this

840
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: because I was on Delauded because our resident doctor who

841
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: was really a foot doctor that was friends with Raven.

842
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: He took me to the hospital and got the X

843
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: rays and it was broken. You all know the story.

844
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: And he says, give her the good stuff. I think

845
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: Paul said, put her on Delauded. That'll help her. Right,

846
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: I come back and everybody's trying like where's the delauded

847
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: in your purse? And I'm like, and I only have thirtie,

848
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: like get out here. But I think they they they

849
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: gave me a pill like when I was there, so

850
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm loopy and you knew me. I wasn't really I

851
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: wasn't into drugs, right, And I remember being one beer beer, yeah,

852
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: like I would have a cocktailer or two and that

853
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: was it. But I remember being in the bed and

854
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: my roommate was Michael Farren because Michael was taking care

855
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: of me that night, and all the boys were in

856
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: the room. I remember what you're talking about. He came

857
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: in and I had thirty of the party was in

858
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: my room. There was like thirty guys and just hanging out.

859
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: And cause I and I didn't do much, I still

860
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: had I remember I had my hospital galing on and

861
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: I was just out of it and I was just

862
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: kind of sitting there and people had the TV on,

863
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: there was a case of beer and whatever. The next day,

864
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Tommy Dreamer tells me, do you believe that? So and

865
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: so asked me if we should do like a gang

866
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: bang because you were on your drug and I was like,

867
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: what and he's like, oh, I grabbed him and I

868
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: basically he goes, I want to throw him out of

869
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: the room. He goes when he suggested that, I was like,

870
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here, and he just got

871
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: really like intent and I was just like, who does

872
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing?

873
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: Like?

874
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: Thank God? Like I thank god to this day that

875
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: company that I was with wasn't a bunch of scumbags,

876
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because if it was anybody else,

877
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: something bad could have happened to me.

878
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: And he and his partner disappeared from the company shortly

879
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: after that. But Has what we call he was the

880
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: arms master in the video game Uh huh okay. The

881
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: Dudlings actually said they were afraid of him because he

882
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: used to eat Soldier of Fortune magazine on the bathroom

883
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: and order stuff out of Soldier.

884
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: Of Fortune grenades.

885
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 6: Oh.

886
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: Has has kept a list of everybody's injury.

887
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 5: Uh.

888
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: He had to exploit it. And when Sid came into

889
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: the company, Has was staring at him and looking at him.

890
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: He's like, I got to figure out how to take

891
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: this guy down, you know, you know if something happened

892
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: and the next week at the arena, Has Has had

893
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: an army issued taser with one of those thirty foot

894
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: courts just for sid in case something.

895
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Think about it. You're a young girl, you know, I'm

896
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: super young. I get hurt, you come back, And not

897
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: one thought crossed my mind than anyone any one of

898
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: these guys would try to take advantage of me. And

899
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: that's why I was just like, oh, yeah, they can come.

900
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Because everybody kept saying, we want to come see you,

901
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you all can come up to

902
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: the room if you want to drink, and people were

903
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: bringing their beer and whatever they were doing. And then

904
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: this guy who is an outsider because he wasn't one

905
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: of us now, but when I heard that he did that,

906
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: it honestly like I hated him. And I never said

907
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: anything about it to anyone because I didn't want any heat.

908
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, God forbid, what a predator like? Who

909
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: who says that? And thank God that you guys all

910
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: had my back. And that's all I'm saying, because you

911
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: don't know, like if it was in another company, bad

912
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: stuff might have happened.

913
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: If it was an episode of Dark side of the

914
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 2: Ring Waiting, if he had come back to the room,

915
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: he would have not made it out of Philadelphia.

916
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 7: Oh my god, Scarry All wasn't kidding when he told

917
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 7: the guy that me and Has would spend three days

918
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 7: torturing him unreal.

919
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: Well, I guess he didn't understand the camaraderie and the

920
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: family bond that we all had together because he was

921
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: literally politicking to get this done and everybody's looking at

922
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: him like are you crazy? Like and I'm oblivious. I'm

923
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: just like sitting there like.

924
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: You know, oh you You weren't even part of the universe. You.

925
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: I was just I mean, I remember everybody coming in

926
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: and out, but I was just chilling.

927
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: You were so narcoed out that night.

928
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: The long is no joke, bro, I broke my hip.

929
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: Come on and basically the lad is synthetic heroine.

930
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: Well that's what they gave me, and people were reaching

931
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: for my person, like, get the hell out of here.

932
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: Had this guy even done anything the Paul kept me.

933
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: I think the reason Paul brought me around originally was

934
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: not for music. It was because he knew I was

935
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: a psycho, you know from.

936
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 7: You there, Harry and then you like an arsenal of weapons.

937
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh God, just just another reason for me to express

938
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: my love for you and say thank you because God forbid, wasn't.

939
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 2: I think has was the one that did the makeup

940
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: when you were supposed to have a black eye.

941
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: My black guy in New York. Yeah, I did his

942
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Spirit of seventy six with Jason and he did my

943
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: My my black eye. Yeah, he was.

944
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: He was like Ivory. You could do anything if you need.

945
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: Give him a piece of gum and a string and

946
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: he would make a bomb.

947
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: Bring a piece of gum, two big lighters, and a

948
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 2: tune of sandwich. Why the tuna sandwich? Well, I'm hungry,

949
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: are you?

950
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: I can talk for hours here, but unfortunately we are

951
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: out of time. Is there any are you on social

952
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: media at all that people can follow your band once we.

953
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: Get going Twitter? Harry Slash on various, I don't have

954
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: a website right now because somebody held it hostage. You

955
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: build it and decided they wanted three times the amount

956
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: of money we agreed on, so they've pulled my content.

957
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: Even though there is a Harry Slash and a slash

958
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: tones ww thing out there, there's nothing attached to it.

959
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: So for the time being, because there's no reason to

960
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: do anything until the pandemic's over. I can be found

961
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: on Facebook at Harry Slash on Twitter at Harry Slash

962
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: and Instagram on Harry Slash, where I post stupid ship.

963
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. Well, I advise everyone to follow him

964
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: because he's a very funny man. But I'm so glad

965
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: we got to chat, and I hope I see you

966
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: again because I mean, you're one of the good ones.

967
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you.

968
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: So thank I mean when when I last I saw you,

969
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: we exchanged InFocus. I was supposed to take a ride

970
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: down a Jersey Yeah, yeah, and you know.

971
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 7: That globe thanks pandemic.

972
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: I know we'll get it done eventually, hopefully.

973
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

974
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I ever make it up to

975
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: New York, I'll let you know and we can thank you.

976
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: We can do something. But I'm glad you came today

977
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: and I wish you nothing but success.

978
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: In love and back at you, Frannie. It was a

979
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: pleasure talking to you, even if it was through a

980
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: computer screen.

981
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: No, next time it'll be live good.

982
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: But next time I'll have my new teeth me too.

983
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting braces.

984
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, I had. I had an accident earlier this year

985
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: and I crack four of my front teeth.

986
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: Ou Oh okay, Well, we'll both have new smiles, so that'll.

987
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Be and in the process of root canals, and then

988
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: in two weeks I get caps.

989
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: All right, good luck with that.

990
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a stupid accent. My friend thought he

991
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: was in dry when he was in reverse and he

992
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: hit a tree and I went right into it.

993
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: Ouch, Harry, that's extreme. Did you get up and say

994
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: that you know this is extreme?

995
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: No sold it? I no sold it and we went,

996
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: you know, and just kept moving on. The next day

997
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: I was had my lip was blown up and there

998
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: you go. Parts of my teeth were falling out.

999
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh god, Well, good luck and I hope to speak

1000
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: with you soon.

1001
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: My friend back at you was a pleasure. Thank you

1002
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: for having me on the show. Guys, you're welcome.

1003
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself.

1004
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: Bye. Yeah franc.

1005
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 6: Franc An Extreme Extreme Tides up here and The Queen

1006
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 6: Extreme Podcast pies up here. Heah, The Queen Extreme Podcast