WEBVTT - Tangoing with Tracie Thoms

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<v Speaker 1>And That's what You Really missed with Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kevin An.

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<v Speaker 3>iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a dear old friend, Tracy Tom's here. She played

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<v Speaker 2>Joanne in Rent in the musical movie and then on Broadway.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a huge career. I don't think she needs

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<v Speaker 2>a huge instruction. She's a dear friend, wonderful human, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know she was Endeavor's product. So that's all I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say. I also have an experience together where I

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<v Speaker 2>have an embarrassing moment that haunts me forever still to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Day that we talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope you guys enjoy the conversation. Enjoy Tracy,

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks for coming to listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming on. I really appreciate it. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we just recapped Rent the.

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<v Speaker 3>Movie twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord me and Adam on and he chatted about all

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<v Speaker 2>the things lovely Adam.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we have a lot to talk about. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a funny story that I have to share

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<v Speaker 2>with you or a reminder of a memory. But also

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we've never like talked about Wren in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie and our careers, because like that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>we usually talk about when we see each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would we? Why would we? But here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done a lot. You've done a lot. You've done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of film and TV and screen, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>done a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of stage. Where did it start for you? And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just where did you get your start? Like where when

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<v Speaker 2>did you find the bug for the theater and the

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<v Speaker 2>screen and the TV and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 4>So my dad worked in public television when I was little,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was always around the arts on public television

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<v Speaker 4>when I was young, and then he went to PBS

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<v Speaker 4>and Discovery and all kind of stuff like that, so

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<v Speaker 4>it was always rounded. I don't remember saying my first

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<v Speaker 4>play or anything like that. I was just always plays

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff when I was little. But there was there

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<v Speaker 4>was this show when I was a little called Junior

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<v Speaker 4>Star Search. I really for some reason, I do not

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<v Speaker 4>understand why I really wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>To be on Junior Star Search. I wasn't particularly talented. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't. I was not.

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<v Speaker 4>I was not good as a child, okay, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like shy kind of I was shot like a

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<v Speaker 4>ham but a really weird kid. I was a weird kid.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just decided I want to be on and

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even care, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Still man. So then I was very logical about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, well, if I go on as a dancer,

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<v Speaker 4>what if I forget my steps or I fall down?

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<v Speaker 4>But if I go on as a singer and I

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<v Speaker 4>forget the words something or a crack or the song.

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<v Speaker 4>So but I had this acting segment on there where

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<v Speaker 4>like a kid would two kids would do the same

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<v Speaker 4>scene with a celebrity and whoever did it best one,

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<v Speaker 4>and I went, I could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>One of my parents room and said, mom, dad, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to acting classes and blessed my little heart. And

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<v Speaker 4>like I knew it was something I had to learn

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<v Speaker 4>how to do it because I was already in a

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<v Speaker 4>dating class and I wasn't very great.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember the steps, but I wasn't particularly graceful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wasn't a flexible kid. I could kick my leg.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't do any of it. So yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to do, and that's why I started acting class.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually was acting, singing and dance.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a it was like a weekend thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Okay, I did that, and like I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think, but I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, did you ever get on Junior Star search.

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<v Speaker 3>Started the classes? It's like the bug the.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, I got it, but you never you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get on it? Because googling going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly to like, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to do my homework.

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<v Speaker 1>So then did you go to like you just did

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<v Speaker 1>you continue to study?

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<v Speaker 2>And you went to regular school and then you you

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<v Speaker 2>pursued this later in life or like was it young?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>That was called.

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<v Speaker 4>The Baltimore Actors Theater in Telson, and then I switched

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<v Speaker 4>from that school to the Arena Players, which is downtown,

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<v Speaker 4>which is one of the oldest consistently run.

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<v Speaker 3>Community theaters in the country. And so I switched that.

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<v Speaker 4>I did shows there for ten years, okay, and youth

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<v Speaker 4>theater Arena Players Youth Theater, and then I went to

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<v Speaker 4>high school. A lot of my people from that youth

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<v Speaker 4>theater went to Performing Arts High School.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to a regular high school.

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<v Speaker 2>For one hated it, transferred to the Arts school, got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I went to Howard with a Howard University with

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<v Speaker 4>a minor in theater, you know, communications, hated it switched

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<v Speaker 4>to fine arts, and then I just, okay, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be an actor.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you know, I just didn't know whatever. But

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<v Speaker 3>here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you fight the urge to like because you did

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<v Speaker 2>comms or was that like communication? Was was somebody telling you, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>do the major in something and then minor in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a backup, like have a backup.

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<v Speaker 3>Father was like, what are you doing? And you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be an actor? And I'm like, yeah, but what

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<v Speaker 3>if I don't work? I didn't have something to fall

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<v Speaker 3>back on, right exactly, But you're just acting out of fear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>do things right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>So that the switch and then I said, now goes

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<v Speaker 4>to an audition for Julliard. I went to but I

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<v Speaker 4>went to a summer program in Oxford to study Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 4>They got the Shakespeare, but the audition for Juilliard and

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<v Speaker 4>I got it, And so.

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<v Speaker 3>That I m of school.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a lot of people get into Jilliard, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm still like, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop, You're amazing?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? What was your what was your break? Then? Where

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<v Speaker 1>was your break?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it would be Rents.

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<v Speaker 1>I did I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did this one show called as If that lasted

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<v Speaker 3>two episodes. I remember that one of the bulls Chat.

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<v Speaker 4>Which was like four episodes of Hold off the Air.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's kind of a cult cult classic. I did

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<v Speaker 4>like two Broadway shows, no one. It's called a Drown

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<v Speaker 4>and Crow, right, a hit, but I did it drawn

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<v Speaker 4>and Crow.

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<v Speaker 1>Drown and Crow what a name.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it was basically a retelling of the Seagull,

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<v Speaker 4>but we were black and Crow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, oh my gosh, the Seagull and then Rent

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<v Speaker 1>came your way.

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<v Speaker 3>Public over the course of like eight or nine years.

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<v Speaker 1>For Broadway, so you had been in the mix for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like thank you, but no thank you, but no

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<v Speaker 3>maybe next time thank you, but.

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<v Speaker 1>No future Broadway replacement.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah for the four hundredth Joanne.

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<v Speaker 1>And at some point you're like, I'm like stop bringing

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<v Speaker 1>me in. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>At some point I was like, this is this is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be my last audition for this thing, because.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still understaing for this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so then how did you How did the movie

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<v Speaker 1>find you?

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<v Speaker 3>I went in for the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kinda le Okay, fine, this could be my actual

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<v Speaker 4>last time. I didn't even think it went that well.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, well, just like the others, the others,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Lion King, just like I eat.

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<v Speaker 3>Billion times and didn't get gusted.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair, that's fair. But you keep coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what it paid off. So you did

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, and what was the movie like for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Joining a cast that already kind of created something. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't assume that it could be like kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>joining a Broadway show once it's kind of been locked,

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<v Speaker 2>but in a different, I don't know, a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the experience. Well, so.

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<v Speaker 4>When I got it, I didn't know it was going

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<v Speaker 4>to be with the original cast, you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I thought there was no way. I thought it would

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<v Speaker 4>be a cast of yeah, veryous celebrity you know, very

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<v Speaker 4>famous people.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, why are you call me in? It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be Queen Ontifa or someone who's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Offer only you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I got it, and I walked.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty blocks and called everybody I'd ever met and just

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<v Speaker 4>screamed on the streets of New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, after all that time, Yeah, and then I.

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<v Speaker 3>Found out it was with the original cast, and that

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<v Speaker 3>freaked me out.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I got to get to see Wicked because I

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't seen Wicked yet, so I went too Wicked to

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<v Speaker 4>see a Dina and I just like I was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of mentally prepared for defind Gravity, I was for the

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<v Speaker 4>Wisid and I I wasn't prepared for No Good. I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't prepared for the only song I knew was I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, I don't know, there like eight other

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<v Speaker 4>songs like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Felting your face off. Hours of five minutes got it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I met her.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a little date. It was very cute, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we started rehearsal. I started like vocal training, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>voice training with this guy, and I didn't know for

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<v Speaker 4>sure if I was singing Scenes of Love yet, because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Joey doesn't sing that song in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to singing in the audition just to

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<v Speaker 3>see if I could. And then summer long, they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're just.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to sing it, and I'm like, it's so iconic.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is going to be the biggest,

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest, like honor to sing this, and also it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be the thing, and people wanted me to sing.

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<v Speaker 1>For the rest of my life, and is it true?

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<v Speaker 1>It is the thing that everybody wants to you to

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<v Speaker 1>sing for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, do you have a sitting I see, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the last time we did Harvest Home benefit,

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<v Speaker 2>which was probably the last time I saw you, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not, but one of the last times I saw you,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, Tracy, can you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Can everybody sing it?

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<v Speaker 4>How about somebody else? To the end, it's really hard

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<v Speaker 4>because it's like the hardest song ever. And some days

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<v Speaker 4>I can sing it and some days I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of those songs that had Jonathan lived, it

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<v Speaker 4>might have been like, hey, Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 3>Lowered the song as a week of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>So back to the movie, So you worked with the

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<v Speaker 1>Dina Yeah, I mean you absolutely held your own.

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<v Speaker 2>It was incredible kind of made you made Joe and

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<v Speaker 2>your own, Like, how what was that like the collaborative experience,

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<v Speaker 2>like given that you know they had already created something

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<v Speaker 2>that you guys were bringing over.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily it was me and Rosario. We were both new

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>When I got there, Anthony and Adam took me to dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>We just want you to know that we're really glad

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<v Speaker 4>you're here. We love Freddy, but we're gonna love you too,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's gonna be great. And I'm like, I'm terrified. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but I had lived with Ren for so long. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember things about it that they did. It was

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<v Speaker 4>their life, you know what I mean, Like it was

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<v Speaker 4>called in this whirlwind of craziness. But like I would

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<v Speaker 4>just go to rehearsals when I wasn't called, just to

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<v Speaker 4>sit there listening to and sing the songs.

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<v Speaker 3>You or what you own?

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<v Speaker 4>And uh, Anthony couldn't remember his harmony. Then I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't remember what you're not?

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<v Speaker 3>Loa, loa, that's what you did?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Crazy so good. They rehearsed live.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys how did they do the recording and

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<v Speaker 2>the singing in the did you guys pre record or

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<v Speaker 2>did you sing all that?

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<v Speaker 4>So we rehearsed every day from like November. We started rehearsals.

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<v Speaker 4>Somewhere in January, I think we started recording the music.

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<v Speaker 4>To record the music and then they do a whole

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<v Speaker 4>comp and they bring it back to you and you

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<v Speaker 4>listen to it and if you like it, then you

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<v Speaker 4>then it's locked. If You're like, I could do better.

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<v Speaker 4>I could beat play the same beat the com you know,

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<v Speaker 4>no no, no, no no no, give me back, well

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<v Speaker 4>pull the track up.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you beat the comp?

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<v Speaker 4>I we listened to Seasons of Love and I was

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<v Speaker 4>in the I mean we were in the studio. They

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<v Speaker 4>played it and I was like, listen to it. It

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<v Speaker 4>was just mind blowing me. Anyway, that was all happening,

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<v Speaker 4>and Adam Pascal said, if you can touch it, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>break your fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it's locked and there's lot because there's still something

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<v Speaker 3>in there. I'm like, I could have done better. Tracy,

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<v Speaker 3>it's done, You're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Done.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I did have to re record something for that

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<v Speaker 4>song actually because I did it and they put it together, like, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>we want you to come back in and send your

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<v Speaker 4>verse again because it's a little too stilted to loosen.

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<v Speaker 1>Up the yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Five.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, like I was on Broadway at the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, this is movie, right, it's a little different, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I had I'd been up all night the

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<v Speaker 4>night before, and I'm like my voice might be raspy

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<v Speaker 4>or something, so I didn't prepare.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like today and I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's gonna sound like, but you might like it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you might like a little heft to the voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a high seat to day though, and it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>The end is fine. It's the verse. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>someone there likely and that's what you hear on the album.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's a it's a little grifty and

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<v Speaker 1>like gritty and I and I think that's the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so overall, good experience, kind of mind blowing and

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<v Speaker 2>surreal to say, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just kind of like magic the whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody was you know, we all lived in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 4>for those six months during the movie, so special and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and we also but when we were singing along to

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<v Speaker 4>the playback, I don't know how you guys didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to lave it.

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<v Speaker 3>We can sing full.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, yeah, yeah, but you can tell the effort, you know, yes, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're singing full, full throat, Yeah, you're singing, but

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<v Speaker 3>taking real leave. It took three days to shoot. By

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<v Speaker 3>the time we ended up had no.

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<v Speaker 1>Voice, Oh my gosh, because it was all the different Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the setups. Yeah, in the different locations, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I was squawking, wouldn't he until they said

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<v Speaker 4>cut because we couldn't hear them say cut because the music.

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<v Speaker 3>Is loud, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you finally made it to broad.

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<v Speaker 2>After the fortieth audition and booking the movie, they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well let her off broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that? Did you have to audition for Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>at that point? Please tell me what I didn't?

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<v Speaker 4>No. After Rent, I did Cold Case. I got Both

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<v Speaker 4>Case right when I was coming out twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>And after that, I did Divorce Prada, k Pause, and

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<v Speaker 4>I did Death Proof, the Quan Tarantino movie, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I did the Broadway show, closed it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that must have been Yeah, And the only reason.

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<v Speaker 4>I did because Merle booked another job Dandridge, and she

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<v Speaker 4>had to drop out of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen, we'll take it how we can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you earned it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was shooting Cold Case at the time, so

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<v Speaker 3>I was flung back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a crazy it's all about And but closing

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<v Speaker 2>Rent is like I remember it's I mean, that show

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<v Speaker 2>had run forever and it was such a cultural revolution

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<v Speaker 2>and Broadway history.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to close that show. What was the last show?

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<v Speaker 3>Insane?

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<v Speaker 4>Like every cast member came back, the whole audience was

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<v Speaker 4>full of people and our families.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, everybody came up on.

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<v Speaker 1>Stage and it was just it was probably a five

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<v Speaker 1>hour show, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we were filming it. Yeah right, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's cameras where it was insane. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>too much, but what crazy? But yeah, but it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>What a fun experience. You made it, you did it?

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<v Speaker 3>Did it?

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<v Speaker 4>Was?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it different doing Joanne in the movie and doing

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<v Speaker 1>the stage?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well in the in the movie, we didn't sing

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<v Speaker 4>We're okay that song We're okay. But yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, D and I are out there doing our thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and we we just really had a pack to work

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<v Speaker 4>together and not against each other.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean for.

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<v Speaker 4>Joanne and Maureene just be like, you know, you just

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<v Speaker 4>you just really lean into their fighting because it's fun, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, just really lean into the love of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I see so many take me or leave these

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<v Speaker 4>where they're just screaming at each other and it's it's fun.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying everyone trying to out sing each other and

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<v Speaker 4>they're screaming and I'm like, well, I'm never gonna win

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<v Speaker 4>that fight because a Dane Monzel b right, be like Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>Maureene has so much more song. Right, Maureene has a verse,

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<v Speaker 4>a chorus, another verse, another chorus, and a bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>And joy I'm waiting for her command, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just my goal is to meet Maureene, not just

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Plus, Mareene has a top notes. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's the higher. It's just not I can't think about

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<v Speaker 3>it that way. Let's think about it like this, like

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<v Speaker 3>we're meeting each other.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, you know, so she's singing, sing and

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<v Speaker 4>singing time how great she is, and it's finally like okay, okay, bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, just is great. You're lucky. Yes, yes, think about

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<v Speaker 3>that way. It's not as scary, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I came in and I was busted one day,

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<v Speaker 4>but like you know, yeah, I agree that we would

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<v Speaker 4>sing it lower, not a lower key, but lowers of notes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>show showed and C show. He came in and she

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I'm busted. All right, we're going with the.

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<v Speaker 1>C And you guys had agreed on that dynamics.

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<v Speaker 3>Over top of somebody amazing, you know, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>really great because I really felt like we were a team.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also like what Rent was one of those shows

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<v Speaker 2>that was notorious for like just you know, you could

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<v Speaker 2>blow your voice hour singing easily singing, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>have all these musical kids singing these songs, just screaming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have Adam Pascal, who naturally sings screams.

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<v Speaker 3>And rehearsals for the movie. He would sit there in

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<v Speaker 3>a chair and just scream these notes. I know, been touring.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have to stand and con tort my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I'm not trained, he said, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you able to do that or in that way?

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<v Speaker 3>You know those chords of steel.

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<v Speaker 1>No, really, it's it's absolutely jarring and amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh but yeah, it's easy to for for singers

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<v Speaker 2>to come in and be like, yeah, I could blow

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I could I could you know, scream through Rent?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like well eight shows a week, so.

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<v Speaker 3>The week hunting now you have no yeah, exactly, nods.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going back a few steps to del War's

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<v Speaker 2>pradac all right, you're a part of another cultural revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>Touch point, you know, in history and a very important

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<v Speaker 2>part of my history. So tell me about that experience, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>did you guys know, did anybody know?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, no, nobody knew.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I thought it.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be cool, right, Hecummer. It was Anne's first adult movie.

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<v Speaker 4>She had been like Princess diarisesm before then, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean so right, of course adult movie. The biggest

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<v Speaker 4>star in there probably was Adrian from his Entourage show,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a relatively small cast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and uh, we just did. I worked like four

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<v Speaker 3>days of the movie, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and then it comes out. You guys have a

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<v Speaker 1>great time in those four days.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes out and it's like this phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly, they just have no idea, Wow, wow, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>What's gonna hit. And also that script kept changing the

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<v Speaker 4>adaptation from a book, so it kept taking things out

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<v Speaker 4>and putting things, you know, different things. And I was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed of a different another scene. I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>pick her from the airport at the end of the movie,

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<v Speaker 4>but then we lost the location of the airports.

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<v Speaker 3>Never shot it, so it's part of the story, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not there. So it looks like after she goes

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<v Speaker 3>to Paris.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just like, bye, right right, right right. It's until

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<v Speaker 6>I rewatched it this year I was like, oh, got

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<v Speaker 6>your arc in half? Oh okay, I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 6>pick her up, you know, right right?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Do people recognize you?

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<v Speaker 2>You've done so much now I feel like people like

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<v Speaker 2>recognize you from Rent or they recognize you from No

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<v Speaker 2>No one.

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<v Speaker 1>But like it is double was proud of the thing?

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<v Speaker 3>No really now no, oh my gosh, Now I think

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<v Speaker 3>nine one one is the thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, Wow, I think, but it's anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, like I was on that for

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<v Speaker 4>four years, and people love cocaine, so right now it's

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<v Speaker 4>usually nine one one.

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<v Speaker 1>So Devil's Product is coming out with a sequel. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you a part of the sequel? I am? Was it fun?

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<v Speaker 4>It was fun, but very different because it's a phenomenon now,

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<v Speaker 4>right you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoot anyone on paparazzi and droves of.

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<v Speaker 1>People were you on location? Where like does everybody knew

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<v Speaker 1>where you? Guys were.

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<v Speaker 3>Operazzi?

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<v Speaker 4>Every day the people find you and you look out

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<v Speaker 4>the window and the whole street is just full of fans?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that like?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing that movie so long ago? And then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you guys are back, and it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenon is still there?

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<v Speaker 4>What is that? That's so crazy, very trippy because we're

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<v Speaker 4>all doing this table read. You know, now the cast

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<v Speaker 4>is a tripled in size. All these people are moving now,

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<v Speaker 4>there's all kinds of creatures are happening. We're all through

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<v Speaker 4>on the table with each other like, yeah, the new people.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you have five of us, six of us

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<v Speaker 4>who are original. Actually more is more of us than that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's like some people at little bit parts have come

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<v Speaker 4>back or they're little moments. But we're just looking around

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody was nervous, including Meryl. We're all just like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I can't wow, what is happening. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's the same writer or same director, same camera operators.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that family, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the costume designer is different.

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 4>But but the costume designer before had done sex in

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<v Speaker 4>the city and a costume person now does.

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<v Speaker 3>It and just like that. So still feels yeah in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. So wow, Yeah, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, you have an oscar.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, everybody's lived like a lot of lives that.

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<v Speaker 3>Were we were just like children. Yeah, she was really

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<v Speaker 3>like a child. Yeah, you know what I mean, she

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<v Speaker 3>was like twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, unbelievable. Oh but that's so nice like that,

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like thirty wow, like forty forty two,

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:00.959
<v Speaker 4>forty three something like that. I just had a birthday,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, nine fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't look a day over twenty one, So please,

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you look beautiful. You're nice, and and you did it

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>nine one one. You're part of the Ryan Murphy family now,

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and you've been doing nine one one for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nine seasons of nine one one.

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<v Speaker 1>Has it been that long?

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, what a lucky I mean, And not

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>obviously it's all the things, but like shows don't go

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 2>on that long anymore. Given that your first few shows

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 2>were very short, that my first.

0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Two and two episodes and that and then Cold Case.

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Was four and a half years, okay, that's fair that

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>you've been on two really great, like hit shows that

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>have run for a really really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you I mean, I can't imagine. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in your.

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Career, you're like, Wow, what a lucky beat to have

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 2>these things that keep living on right, Yeah.

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Because the industry is broken right now, what is working?

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 3>That is booking anything? Because what is working so everybody

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 3>can get whoever they want, right.

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Wow, You're like you're working so much. I'm like, I'm

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 4>working on projects I booked a long time ago.

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Twenty years. It ago.

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Went almost tense, so everybody calmed down.

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 3>You're booking. I'm sending my tapes into the void like

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 3>takes off and brickets. Okay.

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>And then we do concerts.

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 3>We do benefit concerts.

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right. We love a benefit concert.

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I see you at every benefit concert

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>we do together, part of the crew, and I still

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 2>get nervous every time you do, too, terrified every time.

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why.

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 4>What is that? Not to name drop, but I'm name dropping, okay,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Leslie Oman Junior. A long time ago, it told me

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 4>the reason why I'm so scared because I.

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Don't do it enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we do do it enough.

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think so we did what once or

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 3>twice a year?

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough? What are we supposed to be doing

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like ten a year? Yeah? Something?

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know you all the time.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>The depth and breath of your career has been amazing.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I hope you're proud because it's it's truly astounding. And

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>everybody we speak your name and everybody says such kind

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 2>things about you.

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>You have such a good reputation.

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>You work clearly for long periods of time with lots

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>of great people. What do you hope for in that

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 2>in the next decade of like work for for you?

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Like have you found the thing you love or do

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you want to keep kind of running the scale of

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interesting to see what happened. I still don't know.

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yes, I'm fifty, but I don't get cast

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 4>as fifty year old now you know what I mean.

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 3>You can't, but they know I'm fifty.

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 4>So I get stuck in this thing about auditioning for

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 4>stuff that I'm just like, I'm gonna play too young

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 4>for Yeah, No, I am old enough to play the

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 4>part like I went in.

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 3>For something like I was playing like a parole officer

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 3>or stuff. You know, like, no, we're gonna go older

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like I'm fifty.

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my gosh, Yeah that'll be interesting to see.

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like if I ever catch up to myself.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Because you have the like the attitude and Bravado and

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the wise name like a wiseness to you that you

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>can do that. It's just like will people believe it

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>because you don't want fifty Yeah?

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Mmmm, So I'm interested to see it, you know, I'm

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 4>gonna think it's I mean, I'm ready to take public

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 4>more responsibility that I than I have right now on

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 4>like a show or something like yeah number because yeah,

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 4>because and when I'm recurring, so I pop it.

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>And out right right right.

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 3>But on the other hand, it's like I would like

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 3>the series regular money.

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that even a thing anymore?

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 4>And I don't even know if it is a thing

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 4>anymore actually, like oh yeah, we're just we're not going

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 4>We're like two people were a serious.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Right now now. I know it's so crazy. What about theater?

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 3>In order me to do theater, I have to really

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 3>love it. Yeah, it's just too hard.

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>It's so hard.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 3>It was fun when I was in my youth.

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's such a phase of like it's such a a.

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Moment in time where you're you have to really be

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in like the best shape of your life vocally and

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>emotionally and energetically to just be able to give that

0:29:59.400 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>a time.

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<v Speaker 3>So so I love theater, but yeah, you do what

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>to do it.

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>You've done it, I've done it. I have a funny.

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when we did the twenty four hour

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>place and I the whole thing up.

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll bring it up.

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bring it up, because you know what, you

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>can't take yourself too seriously.

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>We were at the American Airlines Theater on Broadway, and

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a thing called twenty four hour plays where you

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody gets together, You get put together as a cast.

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 2>The writer then meets the cast, They go away for overnight,

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>they write this twelve page play. You come back, the

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 2>actors get it and they have, you know, a few

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>hours to learn it and block it and then put

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>it up for an entire Broadway theater. Tracy and I

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>did this with Rachel Dratch and uh Alicia Whitty, and

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>every time, like all of my stuff was like stacked

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>till the very end. Yeah, your last twelve pages or

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>like the last like nine to twelve, and we'd be

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>running it and running it and running it, and then

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden we get interrupted and we didn't

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>get to like the ninth move to.

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 4>Another room, because then you don't have to make it

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 4>fair when you rehearse it, you like keep moving around

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 4>a different rehearsal spaces so that nobody feels like they.

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Have more space or you have a better.

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Space than me, and we can't bubble, you know whatever. Yeah,

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 4>but you just don't understand people always it up.

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean.

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Really, the only thing that was interesting about ours with

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 4>you is that we couldn't figure out how to get

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 4>back on.

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>We just.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 4>It just.

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Like we think it.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I think I left you did you just left the same.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I am good luck to you ladies, see you later.

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, bye.

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 2>My character exits, but I skipped over two pages and

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 2>so there was no contacts and they're just sitting there

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and I left.

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 3>We were sitting there like.

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It haunts me to this day.

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 4>It's scary when that happens. I mean I did it

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 4>well with Michael Kay Williams where there was this non sequitor.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean I had this line and I switched the

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 4>subject completely, and every every time we rehearse that, my

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 4>brain was hitch, I'll.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Just go And I was like, I'm gonna put this

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 3>up on the stage. I'm not. I cannot make this

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>bridge in my brain. I haven't built the bridge. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 3>and and it came. The line came, and I was like,

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 3>here it is.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 6>I got.

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Just stop that. I was like, and Michael K.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 4>Williams, God rest his soul suits me. I don't know

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 4>if it's because I told him I think I'm gonna

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 4>press this up. Yeah, but he just he just saved me.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 3>He just asked the question. And I was like, right,

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 3>that's where we are. Thank God.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>No, there was no saving in that one.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 3>It's like every part of the the joy of it

0:32:58.440 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 3>is supposed to.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Be the pressure and the people know the circumstances.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:05.719
<v Speaker 3>And the audience laughed and they said, they go one,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 3>am myself, what's happened?

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I know it's very good cause, but man, that is

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a tough one.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 4>And even though when we did where I mess up

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 4>that line, David Lindsay bear from the audience. He was

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 4>the writer, so yelled the line out from the audience,

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean yelled it from the you know it's supposed

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 4>to be I know, you know them the sandwich named Kristen.

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.719
<v Speaker 3>I forget her name, I know it, but she forgot

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 3>every single line. Every time they got to her, she

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>was like, what is it? It's me again, It's me right,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 3>And it was hysterical.

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I know because I appreciate it as an audience member.

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I love watching people you're falling a hole, yeah, or

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>like in esson L when people break, You're like, I'm

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>waiting for that.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for that, right.

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 3>But I don't dually do him anymore because of that.

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I haven't. I haven't done one since.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think i've done one since.

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm good.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Do them all the time.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 2>You did say that to me afterwards, You're like, I

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>do these all the time, and it happens every time,

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 2>so don't worry.

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I think one time I was doing something else, so

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have a lot of time the day, so

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.479
<v Speaker 3>I ended up just being like a dead body.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>You've really done them so much that you didn't even

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 1>have deadlines.

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 3>I just died, like I came out and said something

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 3>and died. I mean it was the whole thing. I mean,

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 3>they're just.

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>You guys. Can you've earned your keep there? So said

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>here we'll throw you a bone. Here's one line.

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 3>And then you see musicals.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, no, no no, said the twenty Hours musicals.

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>And I had lanceforne wrote me and Mandy Gonzalez the

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 4>song No where the harmony was so complicated and we

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Rachel Rato was in our sny and she wrote all

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 4>of her lyrics on her hands and very obvious kept

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 4>looking at her.

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a whole other thing. Is like learning

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>a song in that time where the music just moves

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 2>without you. It's not you're just going. It's like an

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>audition that you learn last minute.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Bad and they filmed it.

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 4>It is on film, me and Mandy Gonzal screaming in

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 4>each other's faces, clang clang, the notes clang clang, clan.

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh oh my gosh, destroyed this harmony And to this

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 5>day I feel bad. See, Okay, so you're doesn't captured

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 5>on film?

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>We ask everybody who is on Glee, which I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why you were on Ugly, just saying what is

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling that Glee leaves you with?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm wondering, I guess what is the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that Rent leaves you with?

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<v Speaker 2>Since we did recap Rent, even though your career is robust,

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<v Speaker 2>that's six Ugly about No No Rent?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the feeling that Rent leaves you with your experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know, I was supposed a couple of set

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<v Speaker 3>that day that they did Take Me, Leave Me.

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<v Speaker 4>I was cleared and then I had to work. That

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<v Speaker 4>shifted and I had to work and could not go

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<v Speaker 4>for the filming of Taking Me, and they sang the

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<v Speaker 4>mess out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>God, yes they did Bummer bummer.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Rent is just like I'm still a Rent fan. M

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<v Speaker 3>red Head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to like sign out rooms at Juilliard just

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<v Speaker 4>to sing Rent songs. Oh me and my friend Jeff

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<v Speaker 4>rest his soul. It's like three o'clock in the real one,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like light my candle, see you there.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 4>It was very surreal that I was able to do

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<v Speaker 4>it in the capacity that I did, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. I was just trying to be a fan

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<v Speaker 4>the swing and the thing on the bus and truck tour,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean when I was auditioning for

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<v Speaker 4>it and to get the movie and to do the

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<v Speaker 4>show on Broadway.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did it. Hollywood Bowl, I love that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kyler and Vanessa and everybody. But as I went

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<v Speaker 3>from playing Memings who played Marine and a lot yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Wayne Brady was in it. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>literally breaking what a time?

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<v Speaker 1>What a time?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I answer your question. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's just I'm just so grateful, Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Even still I feel like because I only did it

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<v Speaker 4>for five weeks on Broadway, maybe I feel like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have the the battle scars that people have from

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<v Speaker 4>doing it they did it like years. Sure, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I still kind of like a little bit like an

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<v Speaker 4>outsider thing. I'm like, I just popped into the end there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. I mean I didn't really have the whole

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<v Speaker 4>no no, no, no months thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I'm part of it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a huge part of it. I mean, so you

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<v Speaker 1>put your stamp on Joan for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think so, you know, I and I try

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<v Speaker 3>to give as much homage to Freddy as I could, know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean, and make it yours.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean. But also you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bring her into it, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's a joy to see you. Any excuse, thank.

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<v Speaker 3>You back stage freaking out about what heaven is saying

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<v Speaker 3>not poler lines or remember lines.

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<v Speaker 1>The amount of times we've been backstage nervous, whether.

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<v Speaker 2>It's singing for Debbie Allen or singing at a gallow

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<v Speaker 2>with Merlin Seth or you know, all the things, but

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<v Speaker 2>you give your time back and you're there, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's always so nice to see you and doing that

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<v Speaker 2>because you're so busy and you know, working and doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the amazing things. So it's it's just I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for you and thank you for coming on and

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<v Speaker 2>chatting with us and sharing your stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll see at the next benefit.

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<v Speaker 3>Concept with some vocals on.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, exactly, some great Oh my gosh, oh thank you, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 7>thank you, it's so fun. Yes see you you, Tracy Toms, everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope that any of that made sense because we

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<v Speaker 7>were just scabbing and hanging out. Tracy's amazing, she said,

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<v Speaker 7>such an incredible body of work as an actress, from

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<v Speaker 7>you know, nine one one on for ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Years to being Joanne in the movie of Ren and

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<v Speaker 2>then going on to finish you know, the Broadway run.

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<v Speaker 2>And she is I mean when I say like, she's

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<v Speaker 2>always at every benefit concert that I'm either producing or

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<v Speaker 2>singing out with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Alongside her, and it's just such a joy.

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<v Speaker 2>She's still so deeply and committed to the community, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's giving back and also just a lovely human and

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<v Speaker 2>just wildly talented and of course I wore proud of too.

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<v Speaker 2>You will see her in and nine one one is

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<v Speaker 2>returning in January eighth to all episodes on Hulu. And

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<v Speaker 2>thanks Tracy for coming to hang out with us, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you really missed.

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