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Speaker 1: Welcome to the news show Mother Liquors. Today we're covering

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Speaker 1: Colorado's dumb First Sale band Iowa. This is a different

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Speaker 1: subject subject one Colorado's dumb first Sale ban Two Iowa

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Speaker 1: is hunting for volunteers who can tell one frog call

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Speaker 1: from another. Three Boi Yanni himself hasn't caught a disease

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Speaker 1: called seal finger. He's gonna tell us about it. Four

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Speaker 1: The Red Snapper Wars continue in the American South East.

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Speaker 1: Five Bodycat prices Bobcat prices go through the roof like

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Speaker 1: way through the roof. Six Mark Kenyon has some stuff

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Speaker 1: he'd like to get off his chest. Seven we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to American hero gold medalist hockey goalie Connor Hellibuck, who,

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Speaker 1: in all honesty, eh, I'll save it. Not a huge

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Speaker 1: sports guy, but I know patriotic sterns what I feel.

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Speaker 1: Join today by Giannis. You tell us Mark Kenyon, doctor Randa,

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Speaker 1: William Spencer, Newhart, Brody Henderson. As usual here, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start out with our news. For that, I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: it over to Mark Kenyon for his news.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of news on my end. Started

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Speaker 2: this new gig at Meat eater. Uh, moving from just

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Speaker 2: being like the uh the resident whitetail guy is what

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Speaker 2: everyone referred me to, uh, and now director of Conservation.

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Speaker 2: So I've got some cool new projects coming out because

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Speaker 2: of that. One of which I guess I can tease

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Speaker 2: now is a new podcast, Awesome, which I'm excited about

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Speaker 2: that'll be dropping late April ish. And I first pitched

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Speaker 2: this as a Mark Kenyon unleashed Just like forever, I've

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Speaker 2: had a kind of box around me that's like, you

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Speaker 2: gotta live in the white tail world, which I love,

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Speaker 2: which is a big part of me.

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Speaker 1: But then there's a other whole other half of my unfenced.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. I like that, But yeah, unleashed,

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Speaker 2: unfenced it didn't. It didn't pass the muster of all

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Speaker 2: of our our smarter folks here in the company. But

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Speaker 2: more more seriously, what's it called now? Future wild with

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Speaker 2: Mark Kenya? I don't mind unleashed or unfenced. Unfence sounds

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Speaker 2: a little weird that it's too too late and too

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Speaker 2: broad dropped. There's already a thing like that. What else

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Speaker 2: could he call it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like your antlers fell off?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, but it's not about antlers. That's the things

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get away from antlers.

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Speaker 1: They've dropped off. Okay, I'm a little faster, Mark Phil second.

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks man.

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Speaker 2: So Future Wild is going to be my place to

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Speaker 2: it's like at the intersection of hunting, fishing, wildlife, and

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Speaker 2: if we're digging into something about mule there, it'll be

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Speaker 2: Uh So, Yeah, I'm really excited about It's giving me

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Speaker 1: I like that idea about going into the future. Be

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Speaker 1: like if you had instead of telling old drinking stories,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hope there's lots of drinking stories.

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Speaker 1: No, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: What is the future of Yeah, and so it's gotten me,

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Speaker 2: it's given me the opportunity to to, you know, have

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Speaker 2: a reason to read all the books that I already read.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, giving me an excuse makes you feel like you're

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Speaker 1: not being lazy when you're reading books.

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Speaker 2: Exactly paid to get paid to read the books I

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Speaker 2: to talk to. So we've got three or four episodes

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Speaker 1: Who do you what do you give me? The tease

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Speaker 1: What's going on with them? That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one that explores habitat fragmentation and island beat biogeography,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that one's that one's gonna be interesting. There's

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Speaker 3: Can I ask about it? The future of that one?

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Speaker 3: In that one, do you figure out if the backpackers

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Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna help pay We haven't recorded that one yet,

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Speaker 2: but you're definitely gonna be asked backpack tax, dude, because

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Speaker 1: Carl Malcolm has has become very interested in these alternate

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Speaker 2: Well, and so I'll add a little bit more tentatively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, won't give you a deal like here have been

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Speaker 1: Last thing on on on Our News Our Dear Friend podcast,

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Speaker 1: guest video collaborator Kimmy Werner has her new book out,

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Speaker 1: Kimmy's Kitchen, a cookbook. Kimmy is A is a phenomenal,

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Speaker 1: She's a great person. She's a dear friend to our family.

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Speaker 1: She's a dear friend of many friends of mine. It's

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Speaker 1: a gorgeous book. You can see here here on the

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Speaker 1: of a three prong beautiful book, beautiful person, great recipes.

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Speaker 1: Anyone interested in fish and seafood cooking and other things

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Speaker 1: here it is an ocean woman's guide to wild home cooking.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to Kimmy. I hope the book's a big success.

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Speaker 1: Please please please check out Kimmy's new book, Kimmy's Kitchen.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, this is where you correct us, and when you

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Speaker 1: catch us being wrong about something, you win free boots.

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Speaker 4: It seems like we're already veering away from correction.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: Apparently it's this a big tenderloin. Is a porterhouse? A

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Speaker 1: He ends on that note in writing that's called bringing

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Speaker 4: What's a tea bone without a bone?

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Speaker 1: Raise your hand and tell me who? Who in here?

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Speaker 1: Who in here? Do that?

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Speaker 6: The only thing I know about porterhouses is that they

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Speaker 3: No, I was going to say that you shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: We've always been processing wild game and we don't ye.

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Speaker 1: Termin knowledge, but everybody knows your long time on Yanni

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Speaker 1: you didn't pick this up there. No, you're not even

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Speaker 1: a floor sweeper at this butcher shop.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: I also think it's like generational, like people back in

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Speaker 4: People used to go to butcher shops. You know what

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Correuction number two, Mount Rushmore. The writer in says this, hey, all,

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Speaker 1: on your podcast Neanderthal Love, When was that it called

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Speaker 6: Well, the episode is called Neanderthal Love Something Something something something.

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Speaker 5: He's doing some medatorializing here, man, you can't follow everything

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Speaker 1: On your podcast Neanderthal Love, it was discussed that the

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Speaker 1: America the Beautiful Pass could be used to grant free

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Speaker 1: access into Mount Rushmore, Spencer Newhart's home state. No pass

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Speaker 1: this is needed for entry into Mount Rushmore. It's free.

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Speaker 5: Randall said it, I'd like to like real slap to

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Speaker 6: A correction. I think I just implied that you could

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Speaker 1: Can't believe Spencer wasn't all over it Big South Dakota. Yeah, yeah, tattoos.

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Speaker 3: Did you go there when you live there?

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Speaker 1: Was that a thing?

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Speaker 5: I think I had been there once or twice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So correction number three another slap to the nuts for me.

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Speaker 1: Spoon bill pronunciation good morning. The writer in says, I

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Speaker 1: have a correction. From the first episode of the news show.

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Speaker 1: When talking about the National Park passes, Steve referred to

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Speaker 6: That segment was full of errors.

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Speaker 3: Okay, who's gonna win?

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Speaker 1: The boots? Correct your number one? Porterhouse Ignorance.

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Speaker 3: Are we voting right now?

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Speaker 1: These are tough Man correction number one, free boots? These

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Speaker 1: are all nitpickers. Some nitpicker is walking away with free boots.

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Speaker 1: Correction number one, Porterhouse Ignorance. Correction number two, Rushmore correction

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Speaker 1: number three, spoon Bill. I know what I'm voting me too.

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Speaker 1: We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven votes.

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Speaker 3: That includes you film.

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Speaker 8: That's great, the.

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Speaker 1: Engineers in there, Porterhouse show of hands. Please, good Lord done?

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Speaker 1: That's stupid. I just I like the fact that he

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Speaker 6: His heart's in it.

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Speaker 1: You liked the approach. I like the approach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I'm a little bummed that you just

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Speaker 1: Long cracked it longer it's not, oh, but shortening it.

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Speaker 2: I made correction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Here's why.

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Speaker 3: I good info and I got a chuckle out of it.

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Speaker 6: YEA, save who you're voted for.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you who, and I'll tell you why Rushmore

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Speaker 1: Because here is a thing where some dude picture some

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Speaker 1: to go to Rushmore. Yeah, okay, But then you know,

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Speaker 6: But then he heard the correction. He's like, I guess

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Speaker 6: I just got to pay for parking, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: It is free. Picture that kid and you're getting and

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Speaker 1: he could be showing up there in some brand new

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Speaker 1: damn boots. I don't think it's happening. But no, mister Porterhouse,

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Speaker 1: who's obviously right right, I'm doing a money symbol with

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Speaker 1: he's down there, Porterhouses. Every time he turns around, congrats. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: another rich guy, another rich guy out there, another pair

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Speaker 1: of boots. Thank god, that's just what the world needed.

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Speaker 1: Another rich guy in new boots. Thanks to Covis onto

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Speaker 1: your news. This isn't even that big of a deal,

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Speaker 1: but I like it earlier. I think a year ago,

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Speaker 1: tip that I think is mostly applicable to the American South,

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Speaker 1: it out back, it's better. There is a turkey near there,

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Speaker 1: You're driving around in a rural area. Where do they

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Speaker 5: Maybe on a hill where the turkeys live.

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Speaker 1: It's just a freak it's a freak deal. But he

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: He sends me a He sends me a piece of

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Speaker 4: This legislation has do with hunting within a quarter mile

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Speaker 1: Just keep keep them interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think this is the kind of law that is like, uh,

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Speaker 1: It's a worse law than that.

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Speaker 4: It's worse.

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Speaker 1: You read for the law. It's got a code and

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Speaker 1: He shall, on conviction, be fined not less than twenty

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Speaker 4: When when's it, bro.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but Yoda's meant to prevent say you're

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is one of those.

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Speaker 1: Dude would be like, dude, I'm out of here. But

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Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting about it cause it doesn't specify shooting,

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Speaker 1: I can't even try. Yeah, but then Lake Pickle sent

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Speaker 4: Like, what if you owned land one hundred yards from

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Speaker 7: there's also every year you have somewhere between a fine

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, a turkey tag twelve bucks.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, though, this whole turkey thing around old churches

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Speaker 1: Dude, I can think of it just sitting here right now.

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Speaker 1: I can think of multiple examples, even in El Norte

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Speaker 4: Wasn't there something that happened like in the last couple

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Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, hell of a way to do it.

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Speaker 1: And I get mad at him.

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Speaker 4: No, because you're driving by that cemetery and seeing that

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Speaker 1: For a week, I understand, Actually your will just breaks.

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Speaker 1: There's we're gonna talk about some dudes in the news today.

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Speaker 1: Who I'm like, you should be in trouble. But I understand.

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Speaker 1: A guy wrote in he's making gonad jerky. He's making

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Speaker 3: Not just people, not just any people.

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Speaker 2: Firemen, wildland firefighters, pretty tough dudes, real tough guys.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I didn't even think they include that detail.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even tough guys won't eat his nut jerky. If

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Speaker 1: you promise not to poison it. I will eat your

439
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: nut jerky on air. If you send it to I will.

440
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Speaker 3: I came out.

441
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: Is that really what you would do with it? If

442
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: you had a bunch of poison? You know what I'm saying,

443
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: there's a better ROI on that poison. That Yeah, Like

444
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: you know the thing where kids are like that, they're

445
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: gonna get drugs in trick or treat candy. Like picture,

446
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: you're like a bad drug addict. I feel like you

447
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: just hang on to the drug.

448
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 6: Expensive If I wanted to poison you through the mail.

449
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 6: I just send anthrax to the office like easier ways

450
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 6: of like waiting until he says nut jerky.

451
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: Because someone could back out of eating a jerky if

452
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: you just touch the envelope, it's all over.

453
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm gonna eat his jerky, because I

454
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be poisoned.

455
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: This brings up the Great American jerky contest. We ever

456
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: going back to that thing.

457
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: No, whatever happened to that.

458
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Speaker 5: The suits said we can't do it because someone's going

459
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Speaker 5: to poison us.

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Speaker 1: When this guy, what's his name, the nut jerky Sam Samuel, listen, buddy,

461
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: District forester, listen, you send me that nut jerky, I'm

462
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: gonna eat it right here on there, and I'll tell

463
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Speaker 1: you what I think about it.

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Speaker 6: It looks good.

465
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: At least doesn't look bad. Guy wrote in about this

466
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Speaker 1: he was talking to his daughter's boyfriend the other day.

467
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Speaker 1: That is a weird sentence. I have ag who's thirteen.

468
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: Yanni has daughters right in that same bracket. Someday me

469
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Speaker 1: and Yanni will be telling We'll be running around saying

470
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Speaker 1: I was talking to my daughter's boyfriend the other day.

471
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Speaker 1: M right before I beat the share out, I was

472
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Speaker 1: telling him how I'm about to punch.

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Speaker 6: Him, and somebody at some point in the distant past

474
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Speaker 6: was saying that about you guys.

475
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Speaker 3: Oh definitely.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking to my daughter's boyfriend one day,

477
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: this Steve guy.

478
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Speaker 3: He tells me, hopefully it'll go on like this when

479
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: he says the kid nighteen loves waterfowl hunting.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd be like, you picked a great little

481
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Speaker 1: boyfriend their daughter. I told my dog to pick her

482
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Speaker 1: boyfriend out for I was talking to my daughter's boyfriend

483
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Speaker 1: the other day. This is the writer in Kid Loves

484
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Speaker 1: waterfowl hunting. From the start of the season till the

485
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Speaker 1: end he is hunting. Love this guy morehouse maybe maybe

486
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh he's too old for my daughter. So he starts

487
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: telling me where all the ducks have been reported in

488
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: the area. I had no idea where he was getting

489
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Speaker 1: this info, so I asked. He tells me there is

490
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Speaker 1: a handy app called eBird, which I have. This is

491
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: just for listeners. This is from Cornell. Birds will report

492
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: the birds in the area and track what birds they

493
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: see on what body of body of water or in

494
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Speaker 1: a field. He then uses that info to either set

495
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: up on public water, or ask permission if it's private.

496
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: This next line, Yes, this kid isn't very smart, but

497
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: he nailed it with this one.

498
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: I laughed out.

499
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Aloud on the plane when I read that.

500
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: He Yeah, I've done this. Years ago. We were going

501
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: to go to Nevada in the Ruby Mountains to try

502
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: to hunt him Alayan snowcocks. And one day I realize

503
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Speaker 1: that people report all the snowcocks they see on E

504
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: bird and I was like, I can't believe these people

505
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Speaker 1: are reporting it. Likewise, we were one time staying in

506
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Speaker 1: a hut in New Zealand, hunting a public hut in

507
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Speaker 1: New Zealand, and there's a journal. In the journal, guys

508
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: like so weird we saw some shabby from the hut

509
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: across the river, which we had no idea about and

510
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: getting one of them. Okay, but I don't know if

511
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: the waterfowl it changes so fast. I don't know how

512
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: true that is.

513
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, but this is up to date, up

514
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: to date info.

515
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but are enough people saying, hey, I just saw

516
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: some I just you know, I just saw a big

517
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: bunch of honkers out and old Lady McGinn's field, Like

518
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: like Is it like quick enough that you'd get on it, dude?

519
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: The burders are serious.

520
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's legit info.

521
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: They're not just out there like going I like honkers. No,

522
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: they're like writing and putting this information into their lists

523
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: and their apps.

524
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, if you were if you had moved to

525
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: a new area, if you were cold rolling, I don't know.

526
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm just a little skeptical.

527
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: I'd be looking at Eber and I'd be looking for churches.

528
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 6: That's what I be doing old cemeteries.

529
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: I also think this nineteen year old found like a

530
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 5: game within a game that he enjoys playing now, Like

531
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: it's it's more fun for him to go kill ducks

532
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: that he learned about via e bird from the next

533
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: door lady who's uh an Earnest Burder.

534
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: Oh, totally. If I ever killed a bear that someone

535
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: had reported on all trails, that would be a highlight accomplishment.

536
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: People do that.

537
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: They talk about the bears they see, they talk about

538
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 5: the elk they seeing.

539
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: Is that you then checked back in on the app

540
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: and like it.

541
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Speaker 2: You can have it an up close picture of it.

542
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Speaker 1: Bro, he's in the back now. If you'd like to

543
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: report him again, beavers is fish as background here for listeners.

544
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I was talking about in the old days and the

545
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: old fur trade era of the like they're in the

546
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: colonial time. Uh, the Catholics will sometimes have a hard

547
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: time accessing fish in the in like New World situations,

548
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: and they want and and and at some point Randall

549
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: was going to dig into this. At some point they

550
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: got permission. They're like, hey, when we're trying to observe

551
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: the lenten meal, we don't have access to fish, but

552
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: we have aquatic rodents and they live in the water.

553
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: And it was said like they were giving a special

554
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: dispensation back in the old days that you'd be like, Okay,

555
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: the church says, in the situation you're in, if you

556
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: can't get fish, have an aquatic mammal.

557
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 5: It's about two hundred and fifty years ago in Detroit

558
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: where that happened.

559
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Job, where'd you find out?

560
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: I wrote about it when we did the part in

561
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 5: my plate episode for Muskrat.

562
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Perfect?

563
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Did I tell you about it? And that's why you

564
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: wrote about it?

565
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: No? No?

566
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, ems So this guy, how am I

567
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: going to do this here? So there's a guy that

568
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: writes in he doesn't want us to use his name

569
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: or anything. He says, he does a lot of beaver trapping.

570
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Now he okay, he writes it, put my spectacles on

571
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: here in January twenty nine, twenty twenty six. Well, I

572
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: don't know when he wrote it. Shouldn't have brought it up.

573
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: He writes to the suits at the church, what do

574
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: you call him in this? In his denomination the padres

575
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: the cloaks. He writes to his padre. No, he writes

576
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: to the bishop the big suits. He's a Catholic. And

577
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: he writes to his bishop saying, hey, man, I'm a

578
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: big beaver trapper. Can I eat my beavers for the

579
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: Lenten meal? His bishop? And this guy's got a stamp,

580
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: the Roman Catholic Bishop of blank Okay. He writes him

581
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: a special letter back saying, go on ahead, eat your

582
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: beavers for your Lenten meal. And he ends his letter

583
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: this this dispensation the letters January twenty nine, twenty twenty six.

584
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: The letter says from his bishop. His bishop writes him this,

585
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: although this practice is not customary within these within this diocese,

586
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: the dispensation is granted with the understanding that the penitential

587
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: character of the Fridays of Lent will continue to be

588
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: faithfully observed through appropriate acts of prayer, self denial, and charity.

589
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: This dispensation applies only to the consumption of muskrat and beaver,

590
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: and does not otherwise dispense from the Church's discipline regarding

591
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: Lenton observance. It is granted for the Fridays of Lent

592
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Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty six, and is not to

593
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: be presumed beyond this scope or duration.

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00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: Oh, it's interesting that it's stuck it to there's expiration

595
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: date on it. Yeah, he has to ask again in

596
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven.

597
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Really stuck to them in the end.

598
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

599
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: That's great though.

600
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, for more background, it was the seventeen eighties. They

601
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 5: were French Catholic missionaries. They had a few hard winters consecutively.

602
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: It got to the point where they were starving and

603
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: eating chopped hay, and that was when they made the

604
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 5: determination that you can eat muskrats, which were plentyful where

605
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: they were living in southern Michigan.

606
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Still, we also were they eat chopped hay.

607
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: Because they had the mustards.

608
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 5: Because it wasn't legally yet for them to.

609
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Oh, just on a certain day they had to resort

610
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: to chopped hay.

611
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 5: Yes, like that that was what got them to make

612
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 5: it okay for them to eat muskrats.

613
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: But are you following me?

614
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: They didn't have any other food.

615
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: I got it. But if you came up to let's say, like,

616
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: have you ever fasted for twenty four hours?

617
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: Uh?

618
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have. It's not that big of a deal.

619
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Speaker 1: I don't start eating chopped hay if I'm fasting for twenty.

620
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 6: There was a large There was a broader issue I

621
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Speaker 6: think with food supply.

622
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: You said it was a tough winner, right, Yeah, I

623
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: know they were struggling.

624
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: How many days during Lent? I smell fresh parrot boots?

625
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: For someone during Lent? How many days do you have

626
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: to only fish? I thought it was only Fridays during

627
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: the lent period.

628
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 6: The problem is not that they just can't get fish,

629
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Speaker 6: it's that they're starving.

630
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: More generally, they were probably the muskrats any day they wanted,

631
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: except for the Fridays during Lent.

632
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

633
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Sounds like someone needs to do a little fact check

634
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: in did please do I met you?

635
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: You know.

636
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to win the boots.

637
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 5: I'm going to start making things that I can correct

638
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 5: m and then I'll write in the correction that's gonna

639
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: do and win the boots.

640
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: We probably hook you up with a boot.

641
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll need to vote for me.

642
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: Just get a po box and win the boots and

643
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: then put them in the auction house.

644
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Audio Okay, everybody, joined now by Olympic gold medalist Hunter Hellibuck,

645
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: who was the goalie during the Olympic gold medal game

646
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: there against the damn Canadians who must have blocked Like,

647
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I heard something crazy. You could probably

648
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: tell us like there's like forty two shots or something

649
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden and and you didn't get the

650
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: You didn't You of course didn't get the winning goal,

651
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: but you carried the game man.

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00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 8: Thanks.

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00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I did help on that goal though, I gotten assist.

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00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: Oh.

655
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 8: Actually, you're pretty rare for a goalie to get that.

656
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 6: That's amazing.

657
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: I want to tell you. I want to first admit

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Speaker 1: something to you. It's it's a running joke in my family.

659
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Speaker 1: It's a running joke among my friends that I'm the

660
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: dumbest guy in the world about sports. But I have

661
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: You could ask my kids this. I periodically make my

662
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: kids watch the nineteen eighties, like miracle on ice incident,

663
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: and I teach it to them as sort of a moment,

664
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: a defining moment in American history. So because of that,

665
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: like I like, Olympic hockey matters to me. And I

666
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: happened to be traveled on your Guys Day, on your

667
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: Big wind Day. I was traveling with our colleague Max Barta,

668
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: who is like all in way in on hockey, and

669
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: so I got to live the game next to him.

670
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: We wound up in the we were traveling, so he

671
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: wound up in the delta lounge, and tension in the

672
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Delta lounge was high. When you guys won, people erupted

673
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: in the Delta lounge, I mean went nuts in the

674
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: Delta lounge. Max is running around in his jersey, his

675
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: jersey that was the goalie when we beat the Soviets.

676
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: That dude's name is on the back of his jersey.

677
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: In the airport, guys are coming up to hug Max,

678
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: high fiving him. It was like the funnest sort of

679
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: thing that like just to be by Max and through

680
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: all that, and we watched it and it was like,

681
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: honest to God, like it was like at that moment

682
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: the Delta Lounge. It was like emotional, dude, and it

683
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: was amazing to watch. And I and I said, and

684
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: then my buddy Tommy Edson, who I like a lot,

685
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: text me like in the minutes after and he's like,

686
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: this guy has a large mouthed bass on his helmet.

687
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: He's like, you need to talk to this guy. And

688
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: so here we are.

689
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 8: Yeah. I think.

690
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 9: We didn't really feel how much it brought the country

691
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 9: together until we stepped foot back in America and then

692
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 9: it was just it was insane. Everywhere we went, every

693
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 9: place you let one little USA channel and this the

694
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 9: whole place. It was so much fun. I mean, the

695
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 9: last the immediate seventy two hours after we were I

696
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 9: mean I can count the hours of sleep.

697
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 8: On one hand.

698
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

699
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 9: The just the feel from the people around was just incredible.

700
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 9: I mean, we were supposed to live in New York

701
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 9: and we ended up switching to my to Miami within

702
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 9: I don't know, four hours before the flight, and it

703
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 9: took that four hours for everyone to know exactly what

704
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 9: we're doing the entire day, inner ray before we had

705
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 9: our tenterary. So that was pretty cool. And I think

706
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 9: the best thing I could have done is throw a

707
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 9: basket in my mask. I mean, I put a fish

708
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 9: on every single mask, but I like to try to

709
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 9: keep it with basket because I love bass fishing, but

710
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 9: I mix in trout while I like must be you know,

711
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 9: the change up. I've had a lot of masks over

712
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 9: the years, but putting the mask on there is just

713
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 9: absolutely blowing up my biggest passion of bass fishing.

714
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: That's great. So I got a friend that plays Major

715
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: League Baseball, and man, that is not a fishing friendly.

716
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: That is not a fishing friendly enterprise. What is your like,

717
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: what's your offseason look like?

718
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 10: Like?

719
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: When do you guys like really free to fish?

720
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 9: So our last regular season game is roughly April eighteenth,

721
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 9: so mid April. If you make playoffs and go on

722
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 9: for another two months to the end of the final

723
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 9: so mid June. But that's only two teams. For the

724
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 9: most part, the fishing season is mid April to say

725
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 9: mid September, and fishing season kind of ends end to August.

726
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 9: But if you don't make playoffs, you up mid April

727
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 9: all the way to mid September.

728
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: I've asked my buddy in baseball this because for him,

729
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: it's whether season's gonna end and what kind of hunting

730
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to do in October or not. Yeah,

731
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: And I this I'll talk about a guy named Pete Alonzo,

732
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: And I asked him, do you ever hope you don't

733
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: make playoffs so you can hunt more? And he said

734
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: that is not a hope.

735
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well you know I have it.

736
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 9: I have it set up pretty good where I mean,

737
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 9: we play a lot of the Southern teams, and I

738
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 9: have a little travel rod and a little backpack with

739
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 9: so gear in and any chance I get post practice

740
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 9: or given off day, I just go the backpack on

741
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 9: and go find a spot like that. Yeah, I go

742
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 9: off the bank or get a guide if I have

743
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 9: a full day off. If not, I'll just I'll just

744
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 9: hike around and walk around the lake and try to

745
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 9: catch a fish here and there. But Winnipeg's pretty good

746
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 9: for fishing and hunting. I got we have all of October.

747
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 9: I will we'll start in September. The geese hutting up here.

748
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 9: The bird hunting is incredible. They're coming because they come

749
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 9: in by the thousands, like you're I've limited out within

750
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 9: forty five minutes with ten guys, which is crazy. But

751
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 9: the deer hunting is shortly after that. So we go

752
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 9: we go for fishing season, get here for the hockey season,

753
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 9: and then we have hunting season, which starts with birds,

754
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 9: then goes to bucks, and then the ice breeze is over,

755
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 9: and then we have world class.

756
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 8: Walleye ice fishing. I mean, it's just one thing after

757
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 8: the next. It's really fun.

758
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, of all the places you've lived and considering

759
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: where you grew up, what do you regard as like

760
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: when you think of home water, you know, like the

761
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: sort of a like for you, the emotional center of

762
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: your fishing life is where like what's home water?

763
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 8: So home home home water.

764
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, like would you imagine yourself like on

765
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: the like the place that means the most to you?

766
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: What is that place? What body water?

767
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 9: So, I mean all that we have in Michigan a

768
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 9: ton of small lakes, especially in Oakland County. That's where

769
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 9: I grew up and that's where I still live in

770
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 9: the summer. So I would say any of those lakes

771
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 9: I know in like the back of my hand, but

772
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 9: from like a more broad spectrum, I would consider Lake

773
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 9: Saint Clair my homeowner. God on the smaller lakes, but

774
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 9: I'm also pretty good on the big lake too. And

775
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 9: the big lake is if someone's coming into go fishing,

776
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 9: you take them at a big lake.

777
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: So if you had to go small mouth bass, large

778
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: mouth bass, where you at on.

779
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 9: That small mouth bass, You're going straight to Lake Saint Clair.

780
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 9: Okay you can catch I mean you can catch six

781
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 9: pounders in there, but for the most part you're catching

782
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 9: twenty and twenty pound five pound bags. But's that's your

783
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 9: five bass limit?

784
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm What I meant was, if you had to

785
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: pick between small mouths in large mouths, like you're a

786
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: large mouth guy, would you.

787
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 9: Say yeah, uh no, I'd say I'm probably a small

788
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 9: mouth guy.

789
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 8: But you know, it's crazy.

790
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 9: You asked someone that's been fishing small mouth for ten

791
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 9: years and like, oh, I want to go catch large

792
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 9: mouth right now, and then vice versa. You ask the

793
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 9: large mouth guys, Hey, what do you want to go

794
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 9: catch it?

795
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 10: Oh?

796
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 8: I'd love to catch a small mouth.

797
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 9: So you know, for me, I think I can do both,

798
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 9: but I think small mouth just based on the side

799
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 9: and the quantity that we have them in Michigan, I

800
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 9: have a small mouth guy.

801
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: Okay.

802
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: Then I got a personal question for you. If you

803
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: had to take a stab. How many large mouth bass

804
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: have you fried and eaten in your life?

805
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 8: I have eaten one. When I was a kid.

806
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 9: We didn't know we didn't know that it's a sport fish,

807
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 9: and we wanted to try it when we were younger,

808
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 9: and my parents made it. The second we got a

809
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 9: little more into fishing, we realized, oh, you don't really

810
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 9: eat these are for the sport. So it's very much

811
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 9: frowned upon it in my life and my world too.

812
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 8: Really.

813
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I got a buddy who was a He was

814
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: an amateur pro. Like what that's a contradiction? Amateur pro bass?

815
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Is that the right way you put it? Either way?

816
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: He's an amateur competitive bass angler. And I was fishing

817
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: with him, and I learned that this guy, his whole

818
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: life has been doing this. He had never eaten.

819
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: A bass.

820
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: You're talking about.

821
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Man, I made him eat one.

822
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: No, you actually made me make him eat one.

823
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 8: Oh sorry, I mean they're okay.

824
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 9: But if you can just go in that same body

825
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 9: of water and catch walleye like walley' is gonna taste

826
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 9: way better.

827
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, understand, plenty of walleye. So right now, what h

828
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: right now? Tell me where you're at right now and

829
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: with your season and everything, what will be the next

830
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: like what fishing trip? What's your next fishing trip you

831
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: got planned? Like, what will be the next outing you do?

832
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: Well?

833
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 8: I'm debating right now.

834
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 9: We're right now, we're fighting for a playoff spot, and

835
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 9: the schedules just insane. After the Olympics, it's every other day,

836
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 9: so fighting time is pretty difficult. But we're debating on

837
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 9: our next off day, trying to sneak out go ice

838
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 9: fishing or if that doesn't work out, April first, I

839
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 9: got an off day in Dallas. I'm trying to talk

840
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 9: them into flying in early so I can take a

841
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 9: guide out. But if that's not the case, I'll just

842
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 9: have someone pick me up and we'll just go beat

843
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 9: the bank with the traveler on.

844
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Man, I bet you you have some guys from

845
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Dallas listen to the show, probably hitting you up with

846
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: fishing spots.

847
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 9: Man, probably will, And let's keep those secrets all right.

848
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Connor, thanks so much for joining on, man, Thank you

849
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: for the win. It really was like it was such

850
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: a fun day, dude, and it was people were so

851
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: happy and just seeing everybody in the airport and and

852
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: uh seeing my buddy, Max so happy. Everybody felt good.

853
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: I was in such a good mood. I got home.

854
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: My kids thought something was wrong with me. I made

855
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: him watched highlights from the nineteen eighties game, so I

856
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: was like, this, will you'll help. You'll understand why your

857
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: dad's so emotional that we just won another gold medal

858
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: in hockey. So that's great, man, Thank thank you so

859
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: much for joining to have a good fishing trip in Dallas.

860
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 8: Buddy, Thanks, no problem, glad to be here.

861
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: Thanks Connor, thank you, no problem, guys.

862
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Okay, how to our next story. Two California men charged.

863
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: This is breaking news to California men charged for shattering

864
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: a two hundred thousand dollars mammoth tusk at a museum.

865
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: They were at the Ancient Ozark's Natural History Museum in Brandson, Missouri.

866
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: There's a big mammoth skeleton with big tusks, two hundred

867
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: pound tusks. One of these guys, apparently, and I understand,

868
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: gets up on his buddy's shoulders because he wants to

869
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: get a picture or something of him hanging from that

870
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: tusk and shattered it. They're like, got arrested. When I say,

871
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: I understand when I'm in a museum. All I can

872
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: think about is touching everything and getting stuff out, getting

873
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: stuff out? Who doesn't want it?

874
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: Rand on me?

875
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: And we're in a museum and they had a tepee

876
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: you couldn't go into it. What did we talk about

877
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: that we wanted to do?

878
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 6: Oh like two hours after we'd left that museum, you're

879
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 6: still talking about how you wanted to climb inside of

880
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 6: the tepee just to see how it felt.

881
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm saying, when I'm at a museum, I'm like,

882
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: sure like to get that out and have a look.

883
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: I sure like to fiddle with that, right, I understand.

884
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: But the difference between me and these gentlemen.

885
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: They weren't fiddling with it. They were going to try

886
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: to do a He.

887
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Was trying to hang from it. Todd as a Vedo

888
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: and Brett Howard.

889
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: What an embarrassing way to have embarrassing I mean, such

890
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: a weird of judgment. Do you think they were drunk?

891
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 6: Yeah? I was gonna say their faces look a little

892
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 6: puffy here.

893
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: That's just the look you get when you're arrested. Maybe

894
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: because most people that are arrested are drunk. The relation

895
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to,

896
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: like just if I'm saying I walk through museums. The

897
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: main thing I'm thinking about is ways in which I

898
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: wish I could have allowed to violate the museum's rule.

899
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 6: Right, But then there's another party do it saying do

900
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 6: you think if I did that there would be consequences?

901
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Yes, But I'm like, do I wish I could just

902
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: have at it in the museum? Yes?

903
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 3: So they broke a two hundred thousand dollars tusk.

904
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, what do you think.

905
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Trying to hang from it and shattered a two hundred

906
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: pound mammoth tusk. It's a good question, though, Yanny, what

907
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: was the question? Even?

908
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: How much? What do you think the punishment should be?

909
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: It's going to be reparations that they'll never be able

910
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: to afford. Probably she'll just have to live the rest

911
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: of his life knowing that he owes that museum a

912
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: ton of money or something.

913
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: I should have to like sweep up that museum for

914
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: the rest of his life.

915
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 1: Oh, you want to know something nuts, my brother Danny.

916
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: They were not doing their work. He works in Alaska,

917
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: he's a salmon biologist. They were out doing their work.

918
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you kind of where he was.

919
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't actually know where he was. He says, way

920
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: up there's a giant cutbank, and he said, hanging out

921
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: of that cut bank is a big man with tusk.

922
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: They didn't even touch it.

923
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Well he can't legally, not just.

924
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: Him, you can't. Yeah, but I mean, how many guys

925
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: would have been like, well, let's just go touch it.

926
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm guessing they maybe gott I don't know.

927
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: I know that he couldn't. It was federal land. And

928
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: he said, the way it was positioned, you would have

929
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: had to rig up. You'd have had to bush rig

930
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: a ladder, it was so high up a cut bank.

931
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: But he said just hanging out of the cut bank.

932
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: So the proper steps would be, like you would have

933
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: to contact the managing agency and inform them of this

934
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: for them to collect it or do something.

935
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: You're not under an obligation yet it.

936
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's rules about like fossils over I mean,

937
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 6: Spencer probably knows this morning, there's rules about fossils over

938
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 6: a certain size, I think.

939
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know what made Maybe he did, maybe

940
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: he did report it, but he didn't touch it. And

941
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't allowed to touch it, and he said, need

942
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: if you wanted to touch it would have been a

943
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: real project because he said it was way up a

944
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: cut bank.

945
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 4: Next rainstorm, it might just disappear.

946
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: No, sure it'll get cut.

947
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

948
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, all those ones people find in the riverbeds are

949
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: obviously a road. Now Brody Long the Long overdue for

950
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: sales band report from Brody.

951
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 4: Yep, Colorado for a band. I'm sure a lot of

952
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 4: people have heard about this, but I'll give like background then,

953
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 4: like what's going on? What could happen in the future.

954
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: They tried this thing in the city of Denver a

955
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: few years ago, four or five years ago, I think

956
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: it was to ban the sale of for products in

957
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: the city of Denver, and then it went away and

958
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 4: now it came back. So what the deal is. It's

959
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 4: a proposed statewide rule to prohibit the commercial saile, barter

960
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: or trade of wild animal or fur products in Colorado,

961
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: the state of Colorado. So like typical species like fur, bear,

962
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 4: species like beaver, fox, bobcat, martin, muskrat, stuff like that,

963
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: but not beaver. Beaver's in there.

964
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Well when you get to the really dumb part.

965
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Anyway, the proposal doesn't ban trapping or hunting, but

966
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: you know, obviously it's going to undermine the economic viability

967
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: of certain businesses in Colorado. You might be wondering who

968
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 4: started this and how it happened. And it's weird because

969
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: this isn't like the cat hunting thing that happened last

970
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: year in Colorado, which was a ballot measure. Under Colorado,

971
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 4: a lot citizens can petition the state wildlife rulemaking body

972
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 4: to like just create or change regulations. So you could

973
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 4: like go to the Wildlife Commission in Colorado and be like,

974
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 4: I think I should be able to two meal deer

975
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: bucks a year, and then they'd say yay or nay.

976
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: You know, have a process that that would go through.

977
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 4: This particular proposal was submitted bias citizen named Samantha Miller,

978
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 4: who works for the Wildlife Adverasy advocacy group.

979
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 6: That's a good good way to describe.

980
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 4: It, I guess Center for Biological Diversity, which we talked

981
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: about last week. It's one of those groups that gives

982
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: themselves a serious name, you know, but they're actually like

983
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 4: an animal rights activist group.

984
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're the worst, well not the worst, but

985
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: among them.

986
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: And Samantha Miller was also the person who was largely

987
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: in charge of the cats Aren't Trophies thing that went

988
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 4: didn't go through in Colorado last year. So we already

989
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: talked about like restrict all commercial fur sales, like how

990
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: it reached the commission, and like this is almost a

991
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: story of like a rogue Wildlife Commission as much as

992
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 4: anything else, because on March fourth, so a little over

993
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: a week ago, Colorado Parks and Wildlife voted. The Commission

994
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 4: voted six to four to advance a citizen position that

995
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 4: would ban the commercial sale of wild animal for Apparently

996
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: this this like process was very chaotic, a lot of

997
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: people didn't really know what they were voting on. It

998
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: seems like there's a lot of confusion and anger and

999
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 4: discuss Like in the meeting, there are several hundred people

1000
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 4: there from the public, hunters, anglers, trappers that opposed this measure.

1001
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 4: Uh cpw's new director, she like came out and said,

1002
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 4: we do not believe that this is a good thing

1003
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: to do. There's no biological justify justification for doing so.

1004
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: And that was said before the meeting.

1005
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: As they pointed out, there's no there is no population

1006
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: level impact.

1007
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 4: For so after hours of public comment and debate, they

1008
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 4: the commission votes six to four to go forward with it.

1009
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 4: If you want to look up the names of those commissioners,

1010
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 4: you can. They're they're tied closely to They're appointed by

1011
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 4: Governor Polus. They're they're tied closely to Polus is tied

1012
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 4: closely to some animal rights measures. Uh, these people are

1013
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: as well, and they kind of just did their own thing,

1014
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: which is which is sad. So if this thing goes through,

1015
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: the impacts to businesses like a big one would be

1016
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: the fly fishing, like retail business, fly tying. Like you

1017
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: walk into a fly shop, you'll see an entire wall

1018
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: of fly tying materials and a lot of those have

1019
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: fur in them for hair from muskrats, beavers, rabbits, and.

1020
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: A lot of them carry the name of it.

1021
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, some other stuff would be apparel, cowboy

1022
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: hats would.

1023
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: Be any But that's what's so stupid about this go ahead.

1024
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: What's so stupid about it is when you make when

1025
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: you make a cowboy hat, like a high quality beaver

1026
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: wolf felt cowboy hat, you take a beaver pelt, you

1027
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: throw away the leather, you throw away the guard hair

1028
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: and you take the underfur and compress it into felt.

1029
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: They're saying, well, that's okay because that's cowboy hats. But

1030
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: if you took a beaver pelt, you can sell that

1031
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: cowboy hat. You can throw away the leather, throw away

1032
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: the guard hairs make it unrecognizable. Cool, But should you

1033
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: take the beaver pelt and just sew it into a hat?

1034
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: Not cool? Exactly, that's illegal. And then there it is

1035
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 1: so as nine.

1036
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that kind of gets to like supply chain issues.

1037
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 4: A lot of taxidermy projects would also be affected by

1038
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: this thing, so it's uh, it could packed a lot

1039
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: a lot of different areas.

1040
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: And they can't figure out how to write The problem

1041
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: now is they can't figure out how to write the rule. No,

1042
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: it's so chaotic and full of contradictions.

1043
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like what happens next is bottom line is

1044
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: it's not lie yet. It's in the rule development.

1045
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 8: The vote.

1046
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 4: What it did was move it forward into the like

1047
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: rule development and public comment stage, So the Wildlife Commission

1048
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: has to have another vote before the band takes effect.

1049
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: So that's going to happen. Then Colorado Parks and Wildlife

1050
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 4: would have to like draft proposed rules, which they'd also

1051
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 4: have to debate on what the rules would actually be,

1052
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 4: if there'd be any exceptions in the rules, like they

1053
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: might carve out an exception for fly time materials or

1054
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 4: something like that.

1055
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well yeah, they'll carve out exceptions. Yeah, so

1056
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: they want to be that there's all this stuff is

1057
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: cool to use fur for unless it's like visibly fur

1058
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: on a person's body, like you know what the the

1059
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: indigenous people that lived in Colorado traditionally war, that would

1060
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: be illegal.

1061
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1062
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: Now if you want to run around like a dude

1063
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: rancher and a cowboy hat, you're a okay.

1064
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, buckskin pants, like probably not not god because you

1065
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: know why, because you threw the hair away, right, it

1066
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 4: wouldn't be a product.

1067
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: So it is then you can sell that.

1068
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's just another another attempt to make

1069
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 4: our life more difficult.

1070
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: Dude, that guy like.

1071
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 8: That.

1072
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 1: It's not just Jared, like Jared Pole is turned out,

1073
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: it's not even just him. It's his husband, right, who's

1074
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: like a big animal, right exactly exactly.

1075
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 4: But these people are appointed by Polus. They've done they've

1076
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 4: gone kind of rogue on things before. This is another

1077
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 4: example of that. Hopefully when polus turns out, we'll get

1078
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 4: a new wildlife commission in there that is going to

1079
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: be friendlier to hunters and anglers and people like us.

1080
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 4: The timeline for this is next meeting is in May

1081
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty six, so we'll no more in a

1082
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: couple months, and they'll have to vote and adopt, modify,

1083
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: or reject it, so we'll see what happened.

1084
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: What makes me mad is that think about what's not

1085
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: getting done. They could be getting done and it would

1086
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: be positive for wildlife.

1087
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 4: This is not serious work.

1088
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: Instead, they got to be dealing with this BS.

1089
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, brody, Am I right that the public can show

1090
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: up for this next meeting? It's May fourth or fifth

1091
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: part I.

1092
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 4: Don't have the exact date, just as May twenty six

1093
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: in Grand Junction. So yeah, for any of those commissioned meetings,

1094
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 4: the public can always show up.

1095
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: Can I hate with another added little deal here? That's

1096
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: kind of like what makes us infuriating? Years ago, like

1097
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: many many years ago, back in the mid nineties, I

1098
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: think early nineties, late nineties, Colorado effectively like ban trapping

1099
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: on public lane. So you used to have like regulated

1100
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: trapp What they then did is like what do you

1101
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: do about all the guys that have depredation issues, and

1102
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: they have have like problem, beaver's problem, whatever. So they

1103
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: make the system by which a private landowner can go

1104
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: be like hey, I got a beaver problem. Then they're like, oh, okay,

1105
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: then it's no holds barred, no seasons, no equipment restrictions whatever. Okay,

1106
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: then you can go get them. Now they're saying, but

1107
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: you have to throw the hide in the trash because currently,

1108
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: if someone has a beaver issue and they bring in

1109
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: a trapper to do it, the trapper can take the

1110
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: product and sell it and it could be used for

1111
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: all manner of things, including cowboy hats. This is like no, no, no,

1112
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: you got to throw in the garbage.

1113
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, you can't sell it.

1114
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it's like that stuff like Mamber in Australia,

1115
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: they have all those like kangaroo depredation things, and then

1116
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: one day they go like, oh and also you got

1117
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: to leave it to rot. Yeah, if you get it,

1118
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: you got to leave it to rot. You can't touch

1119
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 1: it that and like.

1120
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: I'd love to say, this is just a bunch of

1121
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: bullshit and it's not going to go through. But man,

1122
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 4: these days you just don't know in Colorado, what could happen?

1123
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: How could that place of like well, I know how

1124
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: it happened. How could have state like of such? I

1125
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: mean like John Denver.

1126
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: Dude, yep, John Denver. Yeah, biggest elkcurred in the country.

1127
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: I know. Someone said like it was like the minute,

1128
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: the minute, more people lived in Fort Collins and Denver

1129
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: than it did the rest of the state.

1130
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: Boom, yep.

1131
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: Try like that's when you know, yeah, Rocket Mountain.

1132
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: So normally in my beloved state of Colorado, I'm all

1133
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: about it.

1134
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: But this, oh dude, listen, man, I love the place,

1135
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: love the place, love the people. This is not about that,

1136
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: just about you got to take your state back, dude.

1137
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 8: Yep.

1138
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, good lord.

1139
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 4: So we'll check back in and may and see see

1140
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 4: what's going on with it.

1141
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: Maybe someday on the road, instead of crazy left wing people,

1142
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: we'll be bitching about crazy right wing people running Colorado

1143
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: and into the ground.

1144
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: I don't think so, like it would go the way

1145
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: of Utah right now.

1146
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: Just whatever, Yeah, like it'll be like all of a sudden,

1147
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you get a state where it's just

1148
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: it's just it's just the seesaw, but I don't know

1149
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: if it'll ever swing. Yeah, it's the swing. The swing

1150
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: kills me. Yep. All right, Randall, good news for us.

1151
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 6: Been a good news. Actually this is a great news. Yeah. So,

1152
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 6: the the Commerce Department manages fisheries and federal waters three

1153
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 6: I guess it's some like three miles off shore or

1154
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 6: something like that, and they are poised to seed management

1155
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 6: authority to the states of North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia,

1156
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 6: and Florida when it comes to red snapper.

1157
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: How did they lose? Is this in your report? How

1158
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: did they lose management? Well?

1159
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 6: I think, I mean, I think Commerce and like Noah,

1160
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 6: I've managed these historically since like Magnus Stevenson. Yeah, but

1161
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: and I think like the reauthorization of Magnus Stevenson put

1162
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 6: and I could be watching this, but I think it

1163
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 6: became like more rigid quotas and sort of season setting

1164
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: on harvest and red snapper, and so what's going to

1165
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 6: happen I guess under the federal system. The short version

1166
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 6: is that they're managing with like very broad strokes because

1167
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 6: they don't have the very detailed like recreational angler catch,

1168
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 6: I mean, so much of marine fisheries just comes down

1169
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 6: to data, and so they would these states would end

1170
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 6: up with a very short season, like only a day,

1171
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 6: two days, three days, something like that.

1172
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 4: Real small limits too.

1173
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, And and so essentially the states want authority to

1174
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 6: manage it with more data. They're going to take some

1175
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 6: elements of like the federal management structure and some of

1176
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 6: the information that is good on that side, but supplement

1177
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 6: it with sort of like the equivalent of creole surveys.

1178
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: And a more fine tuned picture what's happened in the moment.

1179
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the result of that is that we're gonna

1180
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 6: have we the hunting a fishing community. They're gonna have

1181
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 6: longer seasons. So like in Florida, I think they're talking

1182
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 6: about a thirty nine day season. The Carolinas are looking

1183
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 6: like at a sixty day season.

1184
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 4: Can I have a question, were the Feds like the

1185
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 4: Feds were managing like under the assumption that there wasn't

1186
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 4: a lot of them and we shouldn't be taking a

1187
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 4: lot of them in the states are like, there's actually

1188
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: a lot more of these things than or is that not?

1189
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 11: No?

1190
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 6: I think it was more. I think it was more

1191
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 6: that they just I mean they didn't really know how

1192
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 6: many people were actually fishing for them, So like that's

1193
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 6: one of the changes. So the bigger context is that

1194
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 6: this has already happened in the Gulf, and so the

1195
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 6: South Atlantic states are sort of gonna move to what's

1196
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 6: happening in the Golf and that's been very successful. And

1197
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 6: part of the reason for that is that they're they're

1198
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 6: keeping track of who's actually fishing for snapper. So they're

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01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 6: they're I don't know if you'd call it a permit,

1200
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 6: but like endorsements for snapper fishing. So they know, Okay,

1201
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 6: all these guys that are buying saltwater licenses, this chunk

1202
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 6: of them are fishing for speckled trout, and they're targeting

1203
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 6: inshore species, and only this sliver of them is are

1204
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 6: targeting red snapper and grouper and things like that. So

1205
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 6: so essentially, with more refined data, they have a better

1206
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 6: sense of what the pressure on the resources, and they

1207
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 6: you know, in some states, I think Louisiana, like they

1208
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 6: some of them do weekly email updates and phone calls

1209
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:51,959
Speaker 6: to people with the snapper endorsement. Some states, I think Alabama, Mississippi,

1210
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 6: like they actually know how many are being caught because

1211
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: there's only a certain number of boat launches that people

1212
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 6: will go out of fish snappers. So it's it's taking

1213
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 6: like the big, unwieldy federal Marine Fisheries apparatus and handing

1214
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 6: it to the state so that the states can get

1215
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 6: better data and make better decisions for the resource and

1216
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 6: for anglers.

1217
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: Because you're an anecdote, please, I've fished a number of

1218
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: years recently, a number of years in a row spearfishing

1219
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: for red snapper in Louisiana, and what's been surprising to

1220
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: me down there is like that adaptive management strategy, how

1221
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: fluid it is. Meaning when I was a kid growing up,

1222
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: like a Michigan you could spend your entire lifetime fishing

1223
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: under a management structure being that you know, whatever the

1224
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: season starts this day, it ends this day. The bag

1225
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: limit is this many, the minimum weight, the minimum length

1226
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: is this, and decades go by right and it's just

1227
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: how it is right right fish in Louisiana, it's like

1228
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: constantly being adjusted as the red snapper season and like

1229
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: Kobia too be like there's like a vessel, there's a

1230
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: changing vessel limit, there's changing opening day and closing day,

1231
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: there's changing closed days as you realize that they're looking

1232
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: at these data sets and they're like opening closing, opening

1233
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: closing and playing it like a like an instrument.

1234
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: That Washington too. Isn't it for a lot of stuff?

1235
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it could. I'm not saying it's not. It

1236
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: could be. That was an example of stuff to me, like, man,

1237
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: this is not like this is like very up to date,

1238
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: like what's going on? And how are we like manipulating harvest?

1239
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's a hundred.

1240
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 6: Similar to what they do with salmon like in Alaska,

1241
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 6: you know, like that they have data and they're tracking

1242
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 6: pressure on the resource. But yeah, the like the federal

1243
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 6: system is based on long term trends and an absence

1244
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 6: of real like fine data, and so by giving it

1245
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 6: to the states, like they're going to be intercepting people

1246
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 6: at boat launches and like keeping track of how many

1247
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 6: days this week did you fish? How many fish did

1248
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 6: you get?

1249
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: And so.

1250
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 6: I think everybody thinks it's a win win. There's probably

1251
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 6: some objections from the like ocean conservancy crowd who would

1252
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 6: rather see like more like tightly regulated marine fishery. Yeah,

1253
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 6: and like they just don't really want like an open

1254
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 6: access fishery. I mean that's sort of the general speaking

1255
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 6: very generally, that's sort of what that crowd would like.

1256
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: But well, it's it's the states. It's like, it's the

1257
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: states to pull it off or not. Yeah, I mean,

1258
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, if they run, if they if they screw

1259
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: it up and they get too aggressive on harvest and

1260
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: they run them into the ground, right, there's very low

1261
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: incentive to do that because once you do that, you're

1262
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna wind up right back where you started. Yeah.

1263
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 6: And I mean, based on what I was told, I

1264
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 6: I talked to former colleague at t RCP this morning

1265
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 6: to just explain this all to me. Oh, man Randall

1266
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 6: doing Actually, Oh he's a good guy.

1267
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: I just like it.

1268
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 6: I like to going on the phone with him. Yeah,

1269
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 6: Chris mclusso good guy. And he was saying, like, man,

1270
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 6: what's happening in the Gulf is great. It's great, and

1271
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 6: it's going to be a huge win for these states

1272
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 6: if this goes through. And I think most of the

1273
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 6: evidence points in the right direction here, So Florida, I

1274
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 6: think if this goes through, Florida would open Memorial Day

1275
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 6: weekend and they would have like a thirty nine day

1276
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 6: season and then maybe after that some weekends here and there.

1277
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 6: So Semac was telling me that with a one or

1278
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 6: two day season, if the weather's not right, you know,

1279
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 6: people kind of want to go out there anyway. And

1280
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 6: this way anglers can pick their days and it sort

1281
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 6: of distributes the pressure more widely.

1282
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, just a bit of.

1283
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 6: Bright news in the landscape of Colorado for a band

1284
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 6: and all this other junk.

1285
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing.

1286
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Spencer, I'm gonna circle back to the muskrat thing first.

1287
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 5: This is from the Roman Catholic Church. The Lenten season

1288
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 5: has been observed from the onset of the church, although

1289
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 5: there have been inconsistencies with duration and practices. It goes

1290
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 5: on to talk about how different churches at different eras

1291
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 5: had different rules and sometimes they had a fasting where

1292
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 5: you lived like a vegan. Sometimes they had a version

1293
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 5: where you could have a snack after three pm. Sometimes

1294
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 5: they had only Sundays or when you could eat meat.

1295
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 5: So whatever was going on with this Detroit parish that

1296
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 5: had resorted to eat and hey, you'd imagine that their

1297
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 5: rules were that you couldn't eat meat for a certain

1298
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 5: amount of time, obviously a long period, but you could

1299
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 5: eat fish so that's how that comes into play for them.

1300
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure we already got ten correction emails.

1301
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: Well you know what, I'm going to hit rand with

1302
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: and get me set of them boots. He said, hunters

1303
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: and ag will see longer seasons.

1304
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 6: Did I say that or did I say we meeting

1305
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 6: the hunting and angling community?

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01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 4: Maybe you said are anglers?

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 5: Randall can correct your correction. I've got news from the

1308
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 5: Hawkeye say listen up, Iwegians. The Iowa DNAR needs your help.

1309
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 5: They are seeking volunteers right now who will go listen

1310
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 5: for frog and toad calls this spring and summer. This

1311
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 5: is a survey they've been doing since nineteen ninety one. Basically,

1312
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 5: what happens is volunteers drive around at night and they

1313
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 5: listen for amphibian vocalizations in your wet areas. They then

1314
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 5: submit their findings via email to the DNR, and they

1315
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 5: ask that each volunteer spends about eight hours in total

1316
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 5: between April and July listening for frog and toad calls.

1317
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 5: These surveys take place in rural and urban areas, so

1318
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 5: don't think that if you live in Des Moines, Sioux City,

1319
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 5: that you're of no help. That they would love you

1320
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 5: to volunteer. In twenty twenty five, volunteers surveyed nine hundred

1321
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 5: different wetlands. The d n R said that they were

1322
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: thrilled with everyone's participation, but that there are three counties

1323
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six that are most in need of volunteers.

1324
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 5: These three counties have not had a frog or toad

1325
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 5: or toad survey in years. Those are Ida, Henry, and Right.

1326
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 5: So if you're in Ida, Henry or Wright County, you're

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 5: exactly who they want.

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: Load up the kids. Your country needs you. Yeah, they

1329
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: need an e bird app for amphibians.

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01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 5: I imagine that has to like be something they could

1331
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 5: make tomorrow.

1332
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 1: I fogged them about that when I was at Cornell

1333
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: meeting with the people that developed the developed Merlin. I

1334
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: was like, you put all kinds of stuff in there.

1335
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 4: Nice thing about this. You could go do some night

1336
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: fishing wire.

1337
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 5: I mean I would something I would say as a joke,

1338
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 5: but I mean it very earnest this time. This would

1339
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 5: be a great date night. It would get a bottle

1340
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 5: kind drive response.

1341
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: To hey, baby, I'll think we go down to that

1342
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: big old swamp bottle.

1343
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 4: The bullfrogs, Well, it's the bullfrog jugger rum jugger.

1344
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: It's a great it's a great filter for your potential

1345
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: girlfriend or whatever, if she's willing to do that, all right,

1346
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: skilled to have.

1347
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 5: To just be able to you know, that's a good

1348
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 5: life skill that anybody could benefit from me.

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01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a first date. Yeah,

1350
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: maybe a blind date and be a good blind date.

1351
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: But if you were dating like someone you kind of knew, yeah,

1352
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. From the coffee shop, I could see that, yeah,

1353
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 1: but a blind date.

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 6: From that to the frog survey, I know, because.

1355
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: She'd be like, no, no, no, no, here's what happens, man,

1356
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna go way out in that swamp and listen.

1357
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 5: Eventually this would become a youth No one's gonna go We're.

1358
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: Gonna go survey frogs tonight. Yeah.

1359
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. If my like boy said he was going

1360
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: out to survey frogs, no you're not. That's like the

1361
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: hillbilly version.

1362
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 5: Now there are sixteen different frogs and toads you'll be

1363
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 5: listening for. If you're in Iowa. To learn how to

1364
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 5: identify these calls, you attend a virtual or in person workshop.

1365
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 5: Every workshop is currently full besides the last one that

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 5: takes place on April thirteenth in Okeboji sixteen.

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01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: I would not have guessed that sixteen as many.

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01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 5: Why it's relevant, a recent USGS study predicts that in

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01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 5: twenty years, amphibians will be gone from half of the

1370
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 5: places where they currently live. So this is a cool

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01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 5: opportunity to do some citizen science help Iowa gather data

1372
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 5: on amphibians, which are really sensitive to habitat loss invasive

1373
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 5: species pollution. But I want to test you guys now,

1374
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 5: I want to see how well you can do without

1375
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 5: any training at all. I'm going to tell you I'm

1376
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 5: going to play around three of the most common frog

1377
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 5: and toad calls, not only in Iowa but in North America.

1378
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 5: You guys are going to guess what they are. So

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 5: Phil play the first one for us.

1380
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 6: That's a frog.

1381
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: Got it.

1382
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 4: Spring people?

1383
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 5: If you know, I'll tell you there's a spring peeper

1384
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 5: in the background.

1385
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: But that's not the foreward call. That there he is.

1386
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 5: There are spring peepers. Like I said, that's not the

1387
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 5: foreward I don't.

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01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: Know that guy. A green frog, yeah, green frog like

1389
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: a banjo frog.

1390
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 6: No is it a toad?

1391
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: It is?

1392
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 2: It's an American toe got it. That was an American toe.

1393
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 5: Here's how their call is described, high pitched trill that

1394
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 5: lasts about fifteen seconds.

1395
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: Sounds like a sharp, elongated.

1396
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: Cry picture sometimes described as sounding like the bleat of

1397
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 5: a sheet. Now we're going to play it again and

1398
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 5: you can watch it. Make the call this time so

1399
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 5: you can see the American toad. Crep Spencer's on it.

1400
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I remember of those things. I think I've stepped

1401
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: on those in my mon the spring when it would rain.

1402
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 6: His throat looks like the nut jerky that that guy makes.

1403
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: It looks a lot like that.

1404
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: So that is the American.

1405
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 3: That's one of those animals. Like when you hear the

1406
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: sound and you see the animal, you don't put the

1407
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 3: two to you.

1408
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: Let's go on number two, number two, play Phil my

1410
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: old buddy.

1411
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, like to eat him.

1412
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find some good giggin spots taking this

1413
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 4: project too.

1414
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that is a an American bullfrog. That Their

1415
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 5: call is described as a deep and loud call, a

1416
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 5: sequence that sounds like it's saying juggle rum, juggle rum.

1417
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: Because you didn't get him, really kick an ass on

1418
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: that little clip you had.

1419
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 5: It resembles the moo of cattle, which is why they're

1420
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 5: called bullfrogs. Show us the clip again, Phil, Oh.

1421
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, old mister yellow throat, the man with the yellow throat. Cool.

1422
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 4: They used to catch the things go a fly.

1423
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: Yep, that's a that's a low yield animal, right there.

1424
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: Man. All right, you guys got one out of two.

1425
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 2: Let's see how you do it number three.

1426
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm about done. Unfortunately, play it out of me.

1427
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: Grand frog not a green frog, tree frog, no, let

1428
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: It is a left.

1429
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 5: Specifically specifically, that's a northern leopard frog. Their call is

1430
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 5: described as a deep, rattling snore that lasts two to

1431
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 5: three seconds, followed by a chuckling sound like a heavy

1432
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 5: creaking door slowly opening opening. Also sounds like two balloons

1433
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 5: being rubbed together.

1434
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: Again, Phil, play it again, Phil, Man, I should have

1435
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: got these right, because my son, sorry, Dan Markt say

1436
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: you can talk now.

1437
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 6: I think we got it.

1438
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: My son's preschool had a frog night where they would

1439
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 2: take you out and we would review the sounds of

1440
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 2: all the frogs and then peruse this nature reserve that

1441
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: the school was on and try to identify and find

1442
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 2: the frogs.

1443
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: By something and cook them up. We didn't do that far.

1444
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 5: For more information, go to Iowa d n R dot

1445
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 5: gov or just google the Iowa Frog and Toad Survey.

1446
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: Hit me with the counties again where they need your help?

1447
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 2: Ada, Henry and right, Henry and Wright, Hey.

1448
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: Grab your gigs.

1449
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 5: This this story is extra close to home for me

1450
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 5: because I own a frog and I, in an attempt

1451
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 5: to sex it, I played vocalizations in my house to

1452
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 5: see if it would call back. Because for frogs and toads,

1453
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 5: the vast vast majority of calling that you hear is

1454
01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 5: done by males. Females usually don't participate, and so I

1455
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 5: have sexed my frog as a female because it's never

1456
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 5: participated in my calling sequences.

1457
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: Didn't you end up with that thing? Like by mistake?

1458
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

1459
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 5: My wife this was two februaries ago, February twenty twenty four,

1460
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 5: bought a rubber tree at Low's that she brought home.

1461
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 5: She was replanting it in our garage and out of

1462
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 5: the root came this frog that was like, I'm not

1463
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 5: kidding you. This big at the time, and so she

1464
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 5: called me panicked. I think I was at the office

1465
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 5: here and she said, what do I do? I'm like, well,

1466
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 5: I could I could take care of it, or we

1467
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 5: could keep it. Oh, and she elected to keep it.

1468
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 5: And I've been a very good frog dad ever since.

1469
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 8: I couldn't take.

1470
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: Care of it.

1471
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 4: Have you figured out if it's an illegal species to

1472
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 4: have it is?

1473
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 10: Uh?

1474
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 5: It is a Pacific chorus frog. Here's here is how

1475
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 5: I've determined that this frog came into our possession with

1476
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 5: no evidence at all.

1477
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1478
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 5: It's a Pacific chorus frog, also known as a Pacific

1479
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 5: tree frog. Their range stretches from like south Alaska to

1480
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 5: northern California, but sort of the core of it even

1481
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 5: a little bit, a little bit and very new with

1482
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:00,919
Speaker 5: west Montana.

1483
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 10: Uh.

1484
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 2: The core of their range is organ.

1485
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 5: Organ is the number one producer of Christmas trees in

1486
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 5: the country. Lows sells a lot of Christmas trees. I

1487
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 5: think this frog came in on a Christmas tree, bailed

1488
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 5: from that Christmas tree, crawled into the rubber tree that

1489
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 5: my wife bought two months later, and that's how it got.

1490
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: Man, if we get that song bitch on the podcast,

1491
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: it's a happy little frog.

1492
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: Phil's got a video of it.

1493
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 5: This is my my Pacific chorus frog that lives in

1494
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 5: my living room. Now we can hear another podcast.

1495
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: You're listening to something name is sprout. It's it's a female.

1496
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 4: Back in the old days, try to catch a large mouth.

1497
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, great segment, steel fingers, very quickly.

1498
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 3: Unbelievably good segment there.

1499
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: It was fun.

1500
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 6: This is the second episode in a row where the

1501
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 6: segment after me has received high praise.

1502
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: It's not us, it's you.

1503
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 8: I just want to point that out.

1504
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.

1505
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 6: Once it goes around the horn and everybody's got in

1506
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 6: praise except for me, that's when I'll take it to heart.

1507
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 3: I'm reporting on a thing called seal finger. The State

1508
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: of Alaska Section of Epidemiology defines it as a finger

1509
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 3: infection associated with bites, cuts, or scratches contaminated by the mouths, blood,

1510
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 3: or blubber of certain marine mammals. The reason we're talking

1511
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 3: about it is because last fall a young man that

1512
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 3: was skinning an Alaska brown bear contracted it. Okay, not

1513
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: something new. It's been around for a long time, but

1514
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 3: I think it's been misdiagnosed. They didn't know a lot

1515
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: about it until just over like the last ten to

1516
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 3: fifteen years. Back in the day, seal hunters, coastal fishmen

1517
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 3: everybody was extremely scared of it because the way to

1518
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 3: get rid of seal finger.

1519
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: What really, Yeah, like it's coming for you.

1520
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 3: It's coming for you. Like you're just gonna end up,

1521
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be stiff and plump for a while

1522
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: and eventually they're gonna say cut it off.

1523
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna spread. It's like, dang, green man, that does

1524
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: not look good.

1525
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's right, here we go. We got some

1526
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: pictures of it.

1527
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 10: You know.

1528
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 4: What I keep thinking about is when we were at

1529
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 4: your shack last year and Heather brought them yep, like

1530
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 4: man handle those.

1531
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. It's problematic because it's when you first

1532
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 3: get it. It just this is I think these are case.

1533
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: The pictures are showing cases that have gone on for

1534
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 3: a while and become more extreme versions of the symptoms.

1535
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: Because in the beginning, it's going to be a scratch

1536
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 3: that has some inflammation basically, right, or a cut with

1537
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 3: some inflammation, and so you go to the doctor and

1538
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, here's some antibiotics, topical or whatever. Everything

1539
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 3: that I read about people that got messed up about

1540
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 3: it was just this that they would leave and then

1541
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 3: ten days later be like, oh my God, the young

1542
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 3: man that got it from the bear, he actually came back.

1543
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 3: I can't remember it was two weeks or he had

1544
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 3: a bunch of trips to the hospital, but at one

1545
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 3: point has like a fever and like an increased heart

1546
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: rate from it. It can basically get in your bones

1547
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: and start like like making like this, like very rapid

1548
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 3: arthritis come about. So the anibi that does antibiotic that

1549
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 3: does do it is docs the cycling. So the most

1550
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 3: common people that actually get it now are people that

1551
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 3: like scuba divers, people that work in zoos that mess

1552
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 3: with marine animals. They could get bitten or whatever. And

1553
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 3: if that happens, say at a zoo, I forget what

1554
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 3: do it was, but they basically said if you get

1555
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 3: bit there, you get handed a letter. So when you

1556
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 3: go to the hospital they know how to deal with

1557
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 3: it and be like don't give them the regular antibiotics

1558
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: because they ain't gonna do nothing. Like you need to

1559
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,480
Speaker 3: make sure you're giving these antibiotics.

1560
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: Thing, I got my wallet.

1561
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 4: I got a question for you, honest after see, this

1562
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 4: is important question.

1563
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 3: It's like a magic check or what.

1564
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 1: Man, it's like this card. Oh, you keep it your

1565
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: wallet by your ID they gave it to me at

1566
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: a at They gave it to me at the at

1567
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: Coronel and it says like, hey, heads up, man, this

1568
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: guy's into all kinds of weird stuff.

1569
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: Oh, you're like a high risk individual.

1570
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, Wow, it's like if you if you fiddle

1571
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: around hunting stuff all time or whatever, or doing like

1572
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. It says, take note check him

1573
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: for all the weird stuff.

1574
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: Well, you probably have.

1575
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: How do we get our hands on that?

1576
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 3: You probably have instances where had you had this card previously,

1577
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 3: it would have helped.

1578
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: Right, I've had to go in and tell a guy

1579
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: I had a thing and he had never heard of it,

1580
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: and he wrote it down and left the room for

1581
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: a while.

1582
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 4: You're honest. The bear Do they think that it's always

1583
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 4: been in bears or bears pick it up for meat

1584
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 4: and rotten seals the ladder?

1585
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, it from a coastal.

1586
01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 3: Brown bears scavenging. You know, hard to say exactly. The

1587
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 3: hunter did say that his knife had come in contact

1588
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 3: with the bear's mouth and teeth prior to him getting

1589
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 3: the cut, But again, I mean he skinned the entire animals,

1590
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 3: so it's hard to say exactly where what how.

1591
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: What's interesting about these kind of these dis ailment and

1592
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: things like tickborn in factions is the delay, right, it

1593
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: is long enough for oftentimes people will not put it together.

1594
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: No, I don't think there's a delay, you said, He says,

1595
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: could be ten days. Well, I think that you're getting

1596
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 3: symptoms immediate you do. Oh yeah, yeah for sure, like

1597
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 3: you're getting this pain and the swelling. But but it's

1598
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 3: going to start doing worse things as it goes.

1599
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it could probably be mistaken for just like, oh, it's.

1600
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 3: Just that, yeah, exactly exactly, and then it gets problematic

1601
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: because it's been it's been misdiagnosed, or the wrong antibiotic

1602
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,919
Speaker 3: has been given to it. Now, I called Heather Deville,

1603
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 3: who lives in a marine environment, talks to a lot

1604
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 3: of people that, you know, mess around with these animals.

1605
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 3: She herself, I think last year killed like one hundred

1606
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 3: and twenty five sea otters. She has not experienced, like,

1607
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 3: doesn't know anybody has no first or secondhand experience. And

1608
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 3: when she went around and asked a few people about it,

1609
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 3: they're like, never heard of it. OK, So it doesn't

1610
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: sound like it's very common.

1611
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: That's why you come here to get the relevant news.

1612
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, State of Alaska recommends wearing nitil gloves

1613
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 3: and maybe even cut proof gloves if you're going to be,

1614
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 3: you know, dealing with you know, seals, sea lions, otters,

1615
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. But yeah, because like you said,

1616
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 3: you'd mess around with a bunch of crazy stuff. There's

1617
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: chances that you could end up with some crazy, but

1618
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 3: it's not common.

1619
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: Great job, Yanni.

1620
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 4: Speaking of messing with stuff, are you okay if I

1621
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 4: read this to.

1622
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: The to the notes were low on time.

1623
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: Did you get it before after COVID that card after

1624
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: or before?

1625
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1626
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 6: I think it'd be better if it's a punch card,

1627
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 6: like at a coffee shop.

1628
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: So when you get shit, they just said, that's pretty good.

1629
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: Okay. I was gonna do a big report on a

1630
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: record setting cat prices, but in the interesting time, I'm

1631
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: not going to. However, if you happen to be catching

1632
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: yourself near, you know, messing around on YouTube, I invite

1633
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: you to go watch our video called Steven Seth get

1634
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: rich off Bobcats. In there we go do a Bobcat sale.

1635
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: At that sale, we cover what we got for some

1636
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: cats and what my buddy mercer got from some cats,

1637
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: so we didn't mention in there is that the top

1638
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 1: cat at that auction went for twenty eight hundred dollars.

1639
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: Then the next auction a week later in Idaho, a

1640
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 1: cat went for drum roll please, Oh, I wasn't ready

1641
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: for this, thirty five noise again, thirty five hundred bucks.

1642
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: On to Mark Kenyon, all right, I've got two pieces

1643
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: of news.

1644
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: In the interest of time, I'll try to keep it

1645
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 2: pretty brief, but a little bit of controversy in the

1646
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,839
Speaker 2: internet related to some comments from our Secretary of the Interior,

1647
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:15,520
Speaker 2: Doug Bergham Eddie Blackrock Summit about infrastructure.

1648
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: He answered a.

1649
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: Question and insinuated in this response that those who are

1650
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: concerned about protecting our public lands and worried about resource

1651
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: extraction on them that they are not financially literate.

1652
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's the problem. Yeah, So if I just read

1653
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: up more on economics, I would I would be much

1654
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: happier to see us run out of wild places and

1655
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: clean waters. Just that I'm dumb about the money exactly.

1656
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: That that's That's been a little bit unhappy about that one.

1657
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 2: But I think it's great that he brought this up

1658
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: because it gives us a very very good excuse to

1659
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: talk about the incredible financial implications of outdoor recreation and

1660
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 2: conservation of our public lands. A report just came out

1661
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 2: last week that showed that the outdoor recreation economy is

1662
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: now driving a record one point three trillion dollars of

1663
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: economic impact. One point three trillion dollars of economic impact.

1664
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: Much of that obviously depends on federal public lands.

1665
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: Did you see me get uncomfortable for mente? I did,

1666
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 1: But let me know when you hear me out, you

1667
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: want to know why.

1668
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: Yep, hear me out. Take it back to last fall.

1669
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: Another study came out that looked at what they can

1670
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: tie directly to federal public LANs, and that was one

1671
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight billion dollars a year directly tied

1672
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: to outdoor recreation on federal public lands alone. That's three

1673
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen million dollars of economic impact a day

1674
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 2: from the ripple effects, the trickle out effect of outdoor

1675
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: recreation of all types.

1676
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: What is all these places?

1677
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I'm not good at that in math.

1678
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: So if you look at that compared to the other research,

1679
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: the other ways that we make money, or that there's

1680
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 2: economic impact from republic lands.

1681
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 1: It's interesting.

1682
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: Obviously, resource extraction on our multiple use public lands is important.

1683
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 2: There's strong value there, like the secretary was speaking about.

1684
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: But if you look at the GDP.

1685
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 2: Contribution of outdoor recreation, two point four percent of the

1686
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 2: entire US GDP tied to outdoor recreation. That is more

1687
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: than double gas and oil. That's more than mining. Mining's

1688
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: contribution is one point five percent. Oil and gas azer

1689
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 2: point nine percent contribution to the entire GDP of the

1690
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: United States, So very very high.

1691
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 3: But if we drilled more on those public lands, we

1692
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 3: can make that number go up.

1693
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why. Well, I don't like, I appreciate

1694
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But if someone came to me and said, hey,

1695
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: I did some math, your kids are actually costing you money, yep, well,

1696
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: I would be like, well, get them sons of bitches

1697
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: out of here. It's like, some things are bigger than that.

1698
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: So I understand when people do it. But if you

1699
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: came to me and said, oh, you know, we ran

1700
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: the number public lands, clean air, clean water, all that

1701
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: stuff is costly, I'd be like cool, I don't care, yep.

1702
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: So it's like I get it, But I also, you

1703
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I don't want to like engage.

1704
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't necessarily feel like engaging in the

1705
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: financial conversation of it, because if someone proved the opposite,

1706
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: it wouldn't change my opinion. So I feel like it's

1707
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: disingenuous to act like that's why I'm interested in wilderness.

1708
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think the key is that you bring that

1709
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 2: is just one part of the conversation, like, hey, here's this,

1710
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: and then there's also what about the ecosystem services of

1711
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 2: those landscapes, like what they are providing that I should

1712
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 2: have found this, but there is some data they've been

1713
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: trying to actually quantify what the economic value is that

1714
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: clean air provides. Like if we had to filter the

1715
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: air the equivalent that our trees do, or if we

1716
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 2: had to clean water instead of you know, the forest

1717
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: filtering through that or whatever it might be, what would

1718
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: that cost us to replace that with technology?

1719
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 1: It's insane have.

1720
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 3: To be a part of the rebuttal to someone saying, right,

1721
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 3: you're financially it has to.

1722
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 4: Be that because those people aren't interested in the social value.

1723
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand, I understand. I'm just sharing privately here.

1724
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1725
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm one hundred percent with you. I'm private, I'm

1726
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: sharing privately.

1727
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 2: Why that makes me nervous? So I hate to do

1728
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: this too, but we got to talk money one more time.

1729
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Please.

1730
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 10: Uh.

1731
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 2: This is a little bit of and you can look

1732
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 2: at this as bad news like some of the other

1733
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: things we've talked about, or good depends on I guess

1734
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: if you're glass half full or half empty, guy.

1735
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 1: But there is a.

1736
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: Situation, a threat, slash opportunity in central North Carolina that

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01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 2: is worth getting on people's radar. There is a reservoir

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Speaker 2: on the Yatkin River. It's called the Tuckertown Reservoir, and

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01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 2: on either side of that reservoir there has historically been

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01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of public land lands open to the public

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01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 2: to hunt and fish. These have been privately owned lands

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01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: by ELCOA, and they least to the North Carolina Fish

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01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,959
Speaker 2: and Wildlife Service to keep that open to the public. Recently,

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01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: they've decided they can no longer do that. They are

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01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 2: selling these lands, put them on the open market and

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01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 2: going to be put them up for sales with right now.

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01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 2: That's four thousand acres of historically open to the public

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01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 2: hunting and fishing land that could potentially be sold off

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01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 2: and be taken out of public access.

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Speaker 1: That's the half empty part. That's the half empty part.

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01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: The half full part is that there has been a

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01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: really strong push by local Land Trust and a number

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01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: of other partners now looking to try to build a

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01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: campaign of interest not just in North Carolina but across

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01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: the country to buy these lands and then donate them

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01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 2: to the state to be public land officially and in perpetuity.

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01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: And so starting to get some interest and some steam.

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01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: You can go to trlt dot org or just just

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01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: google Save Tuckertown. Tuckertown is the campaign kind of name

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01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 2: around this. It's very interesting. I think it's a great

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01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 2: opportunity here for the public to jump in and make

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01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 2: a difference here. And I can tease for you that

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01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 2: we Meat Eater and our partners on x are brainstorming

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01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 2: and spitballing and working on a way to help out

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01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 2: as well. So so stay tuned on that front. But

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01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this as a glass half full, because

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01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 2: I think we can make a difference.

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01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 3: I bet you there's a few turkeys.

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01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right here, there's turkeys. There's bass I hope

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01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 1: there's no church right there, I mean, not real close.

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Speaker 6: I've talked to these I've talked to this Reverse Land

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01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 6: Trust before, and uh, it's just it sounds like a

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01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 6: really great group and they have a huge hunting program,

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01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 6: like a hunting access program through private landowners, and so yeah,

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01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 6: like I'm glad that we're getting behind it because I

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01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 6: know that they follow our stuff and they're working for

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01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 6: hunters and anglers.

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01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeap.

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01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: So it's a good one.

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01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 2: We'll have more on that on our front here soon.

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01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, check it out, donate.

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01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: It's good cause, ladies and gentlemen. Mark Kenyon, hell of segment, Sorry.

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Speaker 8: I mean anymore?

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01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 6: You know, I like that lost I've lost my fastball, guys.

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01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 1: Fast thorough wonderful segment. You got any tips for Randall

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01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: before we go go later in the show?

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01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 8: I think.

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01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 6: A little more polished too.

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01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 1: I think I think it might be a sequencing thing.

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01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 3: Did you like?

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01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Great job.

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01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 6: And the fur band too.

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01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 2: Hm.

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01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: I could have seen I could have used a little

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01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: more passion. I got so lost, table beaten, little table

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01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: beaten notes.

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01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 6: I took notes on everybody else. So maybe next maybe

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01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 6: next week.

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Speaker 1: Randall has notes or like passion, yeah, table beating Go later,

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01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean I can't argue with any of that. Shake

1802
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: your fists, don't change anything. Just try going later once and.

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01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 6: See if you get We just tuned the very people

1804
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 6: to figure out what the special sauces.

1805
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: Because if you go later and no one says anything,

1806
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: they were like, it wasn't that.

1807
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 6: I just can't wait for the angry d ms on

1808
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 6: Instagram this week. Tell me to just disappear.

1809
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 8: And I'll make sure you're you know what could do?

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01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: Were you? Were you more assigned these or did you

1811
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: more bring me?

1812
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: He didn't pick his passion topic like I D jumped

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01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 2: in with, Like.

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01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: I want down see Spencer over here.

1815
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 3: You seem to come up with your own news.

1816
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 6: I've been distracted.

1817
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing the herpetology department over here.

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01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 6: That's beat Spencer's kind.

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01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: He's bringing his own news. Yeah, I'm not reporting on

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01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 1: stuff I didn't. I'm reporting on my own news. Maybe

1821
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 1: I'll do that stuff that catches my eye, or we

1822
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: just keep giving Randall duds if you don't.

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01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 6: Like I thought Neanderthals was gonna be great. I thought

1824
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 6: that would kill you, know.

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01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 3: I mean, especially when you had an AI image of

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01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 3: yourself as the neanderd Yeah.

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01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: Because if you I know, But it was too quick.

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01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. If it was later when I

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01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: started waking up, I.

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01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 6: Need to aim for like the eleven forty five, twelve

1831
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 6: thirty taping it.

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01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 3: We'll take Steve's blood levels and measure the peaks and valleys.

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01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: It would be good, all right.

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01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 3: Another reminder, check out Kimmy's book. I was Jimmy Werner

1835
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 3: flipping through it. There's there's a lot of uh also

1836
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 3: venison and red meat recipes in here. It's not only seafood,

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01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 3: not that you said it was.

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01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, I was. Yeah, okay, good job.

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01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of good stuff in here. I'm

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01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 3: gonna someone to get one.

1841
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: Getting greedy.

1842
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, once again, let me let me see the book.

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01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: Let's just finish pick Let's finish pick on Kimmy's book

1844
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,799
Speaker 1: once again. Kimmy's Kitchen, An Ocean Woman's Guide to Wild

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01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: home Cooking by Kimmy Werner. Kimmy's Kitchen cookbook checker.

1846
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 8: Check her out.

1847
01:35:53,680 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 11: When you flew out into the sun set.

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01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 10: I thought I would never stop screaming. I thought I

1849
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,520
Speaker 10: would never stop screaming.

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01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 11: Your name, but I ran out of breath, so I

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01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:40,440
Speaker 11: took in some more and I started screaming loud, streaming