Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
Speaker 2: Oh it's just you.
Speaker 3: I Am All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
Speaker 3: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome to another
Speaker 3: episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tara
Speaker 3: and Suzanne.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hello, we are.
Speaker 3: Talking about season one, episode fifteen, Christopher Returns, which aired
Speaker 3: on March first.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and one. Wow.
Speaker 3: You know it's one of those episodes where you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that happens. You know.
Speaker 2: I felt so bad for Rory this entire episode. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like her dad is being an infant, her mom
Speaker 2: is being an infant, her grandparents want nothing to do
Speaker 2: with her. Like I just every every scene I felt
Speaker 2: bad for Rory. Emily was the bright light for me
Speaker 2: in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Are you just referring to the scene in the kitchen
Speaker 3: when she's bringing that scene?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it showed.
Speaker 3: Like who Emily is, Like she has a tough exterior,
Speaker 3: but I think she means well on the inside and
Speaker 3: she always has. And but it's kind of in this
Speaker 3: like watching the series from the beginning, it's the first
Speaker 3: time we see that, like, yeah, you know, she's like
Speaker 3: I hope you know, whatever was said, you know, it
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with you, and you know, Rory
Speaker 3: knows that. I think she's a smart girl, but it
Speaker 3: still doesn't it's not nice to hear that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, the the way that Christopher's
Speaker 2: parents behaved towards Rory, like they put her on the spot,
Speaker 2: and then when she didn't like have a reply right away,
Speaker 2: then they're like, oh, yeah, you know, they just like
Speaker 2: totally wrote her off, which like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, like how do you treat anyone that way, let
Speaker 3: alone your granddaughter?
Speaker 1: You know, like it's and then also.
Speaker 3: It made me, Okay, I actually do have a bone
Speaker 3: to pick here. In the last episode, Christopher said that
Speaker 3: his parents moved back to Connecticut.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: In this episode, Emily calls to make plans and says
Speaker 3: they're in town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is it.
Speaker 2: Right, Like are they staying or not?
Speaker 3: Are they are they looking for a place to buy
Speaker 3: so there's visiting, Like it made it sound like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be the only time they're here and
Speaker 3: this is the only Friday night dinner that we have,
Speaker 3: so let's do it. But I was just like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe I missed something in the middle I'm like,
Speaker 3: he said that they're coming, they're moving back, and then
Speaker 3: Emily was like, oh, well, they're in town, so we
Speaker 3: have this one night.
Speaker 2: That's again, right, And they never really clarify where they've
Speaker 2: been this whole time, because they do say that they
Speaker 2: haven't seen Rory since she was a baby. I mean
Speaker 2: it's been sixteen years, So where where were they this
Speaker 2: all time? Because when Christopher's dad passes away, they're living
Speaker 2: in Connecticut and obviously there before because that's where Christopher
Speaker 2: grew up. So I don't know, like where have they
Speaker 2: been They don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but they basically knew that Laura I
Speaker 3: got pregnant and that Rory was alive and didn't care
Speaker 3: anything else to learn about her or to hear from her.
Speaker 1: So it was just very kind of messed up.
Speaker 2: The whole the whole thing from Starkey Finish was messed up,
Speaker 2: even from the very opening where you can see Rory
Speaker 2: is like so excited that Christopher's back in town. She
Speaker 2: really I really liked the way that Alexis played it
Speaker 2: because she really was like a little girl kid, so
Speaker 2: happy that her dad was home, and she's like putting
Speaker 2: one hundred blankets on the couch, you know, thinking he's
Speaker 2: gonna something's different this time. You know, he's gonna stay.
Speaker 2: And she was so excited and then she wanted to
Speaker 2: show him around the town and everything, and then you know,
Speaker 2: everything with like the credit card gets declined.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean you kind of forget that now.
Speaker 3: Alexis is not sixteen or sixteen in this episode. But
Speaker 3: I think most of the series you think of Rory
Speaker 3: as older because she's mature, and this was the first
Speaker 3: time where you're like, oh, she's sixteen, and sixteen year olds,
Speaker 3: you know, they still want the love from their parents, right.
Speaker 3: And I also it was actually it's funny you say
Speaker 3: that because I noticed it more towards the end, the
Speaker 3: very last scene when Christopher is leaving and.
Speaker 1: They have that conversation in front of the house.
Speaker 3: I felt like she was very childlike in that scene, like, oh,
Speaker 3: my dad's leaving, but not in a bad way.
Speaker 1: It was just like it was an observation.
Speaker 3: But it's funny that you say the beginning because I
Speaker 3: noticed the end that is fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could see she really she was
Speaker 2: proud to show him off in town to meet people,
Speaker 2: and and you could see, she really wanted to have
Speaker 2: like a normal father daughter relationship.
Speaker 1: As normal as it could be for her, right right.
Speaker 2: And you know, Laura I at the beginning was like
Speaker 2: trying to put the brakes on that. She's like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's gonna do what he wants to do, you know.
Speaker 2: And and she even liked Laura I. Talking to Christopher,
Speaker 2: she was very skeptical about him. She's like, what are
Speaker 2: you doing here? What are you doing here? And you know,
Speaker 2: she called him out on his business, like how is
Speaker 2: your business really doing? You know, she was very skeptical
Speaker 2: about him, and I was so disappointed when she slept
Speaker 2: with him. I'm like, seriously, it was like kissing back
Speaker 2: in the classroom.
Speaker 3: And kissing at the end when they kiss on the
Speaker 3: lips at the end, I'm like stop it.
Speaker 2: And it's like, seriously, can you just control your hormones
Speaker 2: for thirty minutes? For I was so annoyed with her,
Speaker 2: And obviously, you know, obviously Christopher was like, you know,
Speaker 2: he wants to get in your pants and get married,
Speaker 2: but yeah, let's get married and then get to know
Speaker 2: each other. Give me a break. But you know, it
Speaker 2: just took me back to that episode with Max in
Speaker 2: the classroom. It's like, just be a grown up for
Speaker 2: just a little bit to you know, for your kid's sake.
Speaker 3: I I don't know it was the first episode because
Speaker 3: I think she's like, what thirty two in this, right,
Speaker 3: I'm thirty two. So for the first time watching this,
Speaker 3: I'm like, she is my age, and mind you, I
Speaker 3: do not have a child, but I would like to
Speaker 3: think I am more reasonable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 3: It just made me think I'm like at this age,
Speaker 3: I could not think that way right, like like we're
Speaker 3: the same age, and I was like, I just can't
Speaker 3: picture it. And also like sleeping with Christopher on the
Speaker 3: balcony of your parents' house and your bed, I was, well,
Speaker 3: my first thought was how long was my like thirty minutes?
Speaker 1: Like did no one notice? They were both gone?
Speaker 3: Like come on, like you both, I mean the car
Speaker 3: ride home you can kind of tell. I think Rory
Speaker 3: was like something happened, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the house is so big, I don't know.
Speaker 2: This was the time that Rory was sitting in the
Speaker 2: kitchen by herself until Emily walked in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and your mom is having sex with your dad
Speaker 3: while after all that, Hey, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, seriously, after all that that happened, and you know,
Speaker 2: your kid is feeling like crap because of everything that
Speaker 2: went on, and you're gonna go have sex on a balcony, Like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 2: Lorela is very emotionally immature because her her development pretty
Speaker 2: much stopped when she got pregnant, so she's really like
Speaker 2: a sixteen year old inside her head still, And I
Speaker 2: get that, but at the same time, it's like, really,
Speaker 2: just like control yourself and put your kid first for
Speaker 2: a little bit and think how she's feeling. Because this,
Speaker 2: this whole thing was a catastrophe for Rory, you know,
Speaker 2: being rejected by her other set of grandparents, and it
Speaker 2: just was I don't know. I was supposed to be dramatic,
Speaker 2: like we're supposed to react to it as viewers, but
Speaker 2: I I was so mad at Laura I and then
Speaker 2: I was mad at Christopher because he's a complete idiot,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I was just mad at everybody
Speaker 2: except Emily, which is weird for me because usually Emily.
Speaker 1: Is my least for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it was just crazy drama.
Speaker 3: Crazy drama, and the Christopher saying let's get married. I
Speaker 3: was like, what, Like it was one of those things
Speaker 3: where I'm like, I understand we wanted to well, the
Speaker 3: writers wanted to make it be like he's just so
Speaker 3: out of it, unaware of anything, but I was like really, And.
Speaker 1: Then like even at the end when I don't know, that.
Speaker 3: Exchange outside when he was leaving the very last scene
Speaker 3: just kind of bugged me as a whole because well, Okay, one,
Speaker 3: I found it very weird of all the like dating
Speaker 3: talk in front of Rory if Laura I previous to
Speaker 3: Max had never told Rory who she was seeing. But
Speaker 3: then like Christopher's relationship is like all the talk, I
Speaker 3: don't know it. Like, I'm very fortunate that my parents
Speaker 3: are sold together and I never had to deal with that,
Speaker 3: But like, I guess my question is is that normal
Speaker 3: to have like talked to in front of a sixteen
Speaker 3: year old that your parents are dating other people, even
Speaker 3: if it's casual. I would say, if it's a serious relationship,
Speaker 3: that makes sense, but like dating for a couple of
Speaker 3: months just doesn't make sense to bring your daughter into
Speaker 3: the mix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. And the other thing too,
Speaker 2: that talking about that conversation, the conversation in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: They're having this whole conversation about getting married and you know,
Speaker 2: what did the sex mean to you? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: They're standing right outside Rory's bedrooms.
Speaker 3: Are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do they really think she's not hearing all of this?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That probably wasn't. You know, we're not supposed to like
Speaker 2: notice that detail.
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 3: On a completely random note, did you notice on the
Speaker 3: baseball field that it was raining and they were like
Speaker 3: covered by a tarp?
Speaker 2: Yes, and you could hear it, and you hear it.
Speaker 1: You could hear it.
Speaker 3: There was that you could hear it, And then there
Speaker 3: were scenes that were like definitely not raining, and then
Speaker 3: like some it was kind of like at the at
Speaker 3: the bleachers, like those cutaways, it was like you could
Speaker 3: hear the rain.
Speaker 1: And then the scene.
Speaker 3: On the balcony when they're like about to have sex.
Speaker 3: Did you notice there's like a cut in the bottom
Speaker 3: of the screen. I guess the camera lens. There's like
Speaker 3: a like a.
Speaker 1: Hair Oh no, I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like the scene where they're like,
Speaker 3: oh no, it's either.
Speaker 1: Right before sex or right after. One of the scenes
Speaker 1: on the balcony.
Speaker 3: And it's pretty quick, but it's the whole scene. There's
Speaker 3: like a hair or like a like a crack on
Speaker 3: the and it was I was like, at first, I
Speaker 3: thought it was a TV and I want to like
Speaker 3: clean it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's weird. But it moved, it moved with
Speaker 1: the camera.
Speaker 2: I didn't even notice that. I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 2: back that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one caught my eye.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, but uh, the whole the whole episode, because
Speaker 3: I'm guessing, so this was a whole week they film.
Speaker 1: Usually an episode like that takes a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Los Angeles was rainy that week because if he noticed,
Speaker 3: even like the town scenes, like everywhere is wet, which
Speaker 3: usually they do, but you could tell it was like
Speaker 3: real wet, yeah, like from rain which helped.
Speaker 1: But it was like the first time I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this fell is like cozy.
Speaker 2: And if you go back to the scene that there
Speaker 2: was a there was a cutaway where Dean and Christopher
Speaker 2: shook hands and the camera was far enough away because
Speaker 2: they were under the tart, but you the camera was
Speaker 2: far enough away that the rain is fault like you
Speaker 2: can see the actual rain falls are shaking.
Speaker 1: Hands but not on them, right.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but and then like the scenes with were
Speaker 2: the like Luke on the baseball diamond there it wasn't
Speaker 2: raining there, no, but then the bleacher scenes it was
Speaker 2: raining even though. Yeah, so it was like it started
Speaker 2: or stopped over the course.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was also trying to think because.
Speaker 3: I grew up in like until I was like eight,
Speaker 3: like in Glendale Bourbank area, and I was like, what
Speaker 3: park is that? The whole time I was like what
Speaker 3: park is this? Like so residential, like what baseball field
Speaker 3: is this? But yeah, that was that was my I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: That episode, Like.
Speaker 3: It's one of those memorable ones, right, like specifically that
Speaker 3: scene when she's like I hate.
Speaker 1: Bush and you're like really.
Speaker 3: You know, like it's one of those Like the second
Speaker 3: the episode started, I was like, I know exactly what
Speaker 3: line is coming.
Speaker 1: But it was an entertaining episode, Like I didn't.
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, like it definitely, you know it was.
Speaker 2: It was good to watch and gave you some emotions
Speaker 2: and and stuff. So I enjoyed it. I did. One
Speaker 2: thing that caught my attention was when they were talking
Speaker 2: about it was towards the beginning there, the three of
Speaker 2: them were in the living room and Christopher made some comment.
Speaker 2: Rory says something about I have to go do homework,
Speaker 2: and Christopher says Friday.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So why weren't they at Friday night dinner if
Speaker 2: it was if the next day was Saturday, that it
Speaker 2: must have been Friday night. Why didn't No, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, it was she wanted to hold on.
Speaker 3: I understood it one second, unless I understood it incorrectly. Basically,
Speaker 3: she was saying like she wanted to get ahead.
Speaker 2: Right, But he said tomorrow is Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you're right.
Speaker 3: I didn't catch that. I was just thinking that it
Speaker 3: was all I don't know, Gilmore girls. For me, all
Speaker 3: seems like one day anyway, So.
Speaker 2: I know, I know I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1: But that's a good catch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, tomorrow he says, tomorrow's Saturday, you're right.
Speaker 1: And then the next day, so the next day, that means.
Speaker 3: They in the morning early, they go to Dean's baseball,
Speaker 3: right thing, and then they go into town.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Emily calls Loralai.
Speaker 3: To say his parents are in town and we'll be there,
Speaker 3: and then they go to dinner.
Speaker 2: It's like a big gap because it's Saturday morning and
Speaker 2: they're in the diner, she's on the phone with Emily,
Speaker 2: and then the very next scene they're showing up for dinner.
Speaker 3: So so it had to be that, like he's been
Speaker 3: there the whole week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just didn't show us anything that happened.
Speaker 3: Well, because it makes sense because you're right, then tomorrow
Speaker 3: is Saturday because they went to Dean's baseball game on
Speaker 3: a Saturday morning, it wouldn't have been Friday, right, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so they just skipped like five days.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, which is okay because there was so much
Speaker 2: drama at that dinner. We yeah, see everything that happened
Speaker 2: the week before because it was probably.
Speaker 1: Boring find you we're just being nitpicky now.
Speaker 2: And one thing, okay, this is a completely random microscopic detail,
Speaker 2: but there was a scene where it was right after
Speaker 2: they met Taylor on the street and they're standing outside
Speaker 2: of the market and there's a street sign behind them.
Speaker 2: This is I think it said like Cherry Street or
Speaker 2: Cherry Avenue something like that. We've never seen I don't
Speaker 2: remember ever seeing a street sign in Stars Hall. So
Speaker 2: that's now something that my brain is going to look
Speaker 2: for in every single episode.
Speaker 1: Because that's funny.
Speaker 3: The one thing that caught my eye is the scene
Speaker 3: where Luke is basically left alone and he's like I
Speaker 3: think he was like closing up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another reason I'm met at Laura life.
Speaker 1: But yet well yes that too.
Speaker 3: But if you look and I maybe it was okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I just paused it.
Speaker 1: The reflection in the window. You can see the.
Speaker 3: Camera man moving like with Luke. It's at twenty nine
Speaker 3: fifty two, and the camera like pans and you can
Speaker 3: see the reflection of a cameraman like moving back, like
Speaker 3: holding a handheld camera. And it really took me out
Speaker 3: of the episode. I'm not gonna lie, Oh totally, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's funny.
Speaker 2: You see the camera guy and then you see like
Speaker 2: the assistant guy next to ye me funny.
Speaker 1: You literally see like, yeah, it's like the guy next
Speaker 1: to them helping move the camera.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: It took me.
Speaker 3: I like actually rewound it like twice because I got
Speaker 3: I literally forgot what had happened in that scene because
Speaker 3: I was like so distracted by this man in the reflection,
Speaker 3: and then then I didn't see the guy again in
Speaker 3: the in the reflection.
Speaker 1: When Lorelei shows up in her I love Lucy, Lucy.
Speaker 3: And Epple pajamas, which, by the way, I googled those pajamas.
Speaker 3: If I can find them, I would tell them, Oh,
Speaker 3: but I don't think you would want someone's used pajamas
Speaker 3: on Poshmark.
Speaker 2: No, that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and literally with like stains on it. Someone's selling
Speaker 3: it for like sixty bucks. I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I'm okay. But there are different versions of Lucy and
Speaker 3: Ethel pajamas, but those specific ones it was.
Speaker 1: It was like a brand I think called Nick and
Speaker 1: Nora too. Oh okay, it was funny.
Speaker 3: I like went down a rabbit hole of like, oh,
Speaker 3: I love Lucy pajamas.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to find some now.
Speaker 1: But that was my That was my one contribution. No,
Speaker 1: no clown pillow, right, I didn't see what No, I
Speaker 1: didn't see.
Speaker 2: The clown pillow. The only other thing I noticed was
Speaker 2: in the very final scene where they're in the diner
Speaker 2: and Lorlai has painted everything and Luke walks into the diner.
Speaker 2: The curtains were kind of like folded over the curtain
Speaker 2: rod like to pull them out of the way. But
Speaker 2: then when they cut to the shot from inside the diner,
Speaker 2: the curtains are like hanging down normally. Huh, So it's
Speaker 2: like they tucked them up so she could paint, but
Speaker 2: then didn't.
Speaker 3: I still I was still looking at the from the
Speaker 3: last episode, the door number that changed that one level.
Speaker 3: I went back and watched it, and I was like, whoa,
Speaker 3: how did like no one notice that in the moment?
Speaker 2: I know, why why would they even why would they
Speaker 2: even need to use two different doors.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's a good question, Like, isn't it the
Speaker 3: same take unless.
Speaker 1: They like did a pick up on a completely different day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have been like maybe they switched it
Speaker 2: out for some other production or something, but they still
Speaker 2: had the same sign on it. But yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: yeah they I don't know how that got overlooked.
Speaker 1: But it's a mystery. Well overall, I mean it's an
Speaker 1: entertaining episode. Entertaining episode, it was.
Speaker 2: It was disappointing behavior from the adults, but yeah, definitely
Speaker 2: it was. It was good. It was. It was you know,
Speaker 2: there was some drama in there and it kind of moved,
Speaker 2: you know, moved the story along.
Speaker 1: So yeah, from it.
Speaker 3: Was definitely better after in my opinion, last week's episode.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, woke me back up right, and it pulled
Speaker 2: you back into the story. Like yeah, talked about before,
Speaker 2: like the DNNA read thing, it kind of didn't. It
Speaker 2: was just filler, Like it just exactly, it was just filler.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it got us back into the into the
Speaker 2: drama and the town and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: March first, I guess Sweeps is back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well next episode is going to be
Speaker 3: Season one, episode sixteen, Starcross Lovers and other Strangers.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week meeting adjourned.
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