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Speaker 1: everybody needs to like, subscribe, rate review, tell us one

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Speaker 1: of your reviews. Okay, So here is an amazing review

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Speaker 1: from Katherine Blandford on December. She gave us five stars.

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Speaker 1: She says, I book road trips to see friends I

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Speaker 1: don't even like, so I can spend six hours with

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Speaker 1: Podcast and let's get us back on that chart. Honey,

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Speaker 1: Now let's get into the show. Look may oh, I

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Speaker 1: see you? Why and look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness,

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Speaker 1: let ding dong last culture Esta is calling. I feel

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Speaker 1: award season right now, Honey, I actually watched the screeners today.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about it. I did my SAG

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Speaker 1: Awards voting today. She's a sad girl now. And this

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Speaker 1: you know who else didn't pay her initiation. She paid

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Speaker 1: This person has climbed the Mountain of Culture and now

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Speaker 1: accept all this just drivel. No, No, that's not something

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Speaker 1: seen of her was downsizing and big little lies. Oh god, yeah,

422
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: everyone forgets because she was just a very like much

423
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: in the Greek chorus. But she was fully And I'm

424
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: wondering if they'll beef up her part in the second

425
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 1: season of Big Little Lives right, because she very likely

426
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: will if the precursors are to be believed, will learn

427
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: an Oscar nomination. Who knows. But you're not just gonna

428
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: put her in the back now that with an Oscar, right,

429
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: you absolutely can. Yeah, but I think it'll be interesting.

430
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: But something like that, I was like, looking at it,

431
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, how fair is this? Because I voted today

432
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: and didn't see everything. Yeah, I mean, I just don't

433
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: have any interest in seeing a lot of this ship.

434
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: Well that's what's dark shadows. No, that movie with Gary

435
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: Omen when he plays with the Penny during the during

436
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: the Oscars I mean the Golden globes and he was talking.

437
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: I was like the room was dead dead, well honestly, right,

438
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: it was supposed to end after Opra, like you don't

439
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: have Oprah and then everyone else has to try and talk.

440
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: It's I kind of I don't care about your journey. Yeah.

441
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: The fact that there was a moment of more stimulation

442
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: after Oprah, which was Natalie saying that was already too

443
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: much down the room. If God had as started a

444
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: humor in the room would have exploded right there. It

445
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: was just like, honestly, like that should have been the

446
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: end of the whole evening. And then also when Barbara

447
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: came out and did her speech about not enough women directors,

448
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but the thing is, we just

449
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: heard it and like it's been it's been set at

450
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: the highest. Well when when Salma came up to it

451
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: was like, you know, she tried to start at times,

452
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: but it's like, oh, too late, Like I feel like

453
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: this should happen at the beginning, and then and then

454
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: over closed it and then you can had like a

455
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: little you know because lord no she has come out

456
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: and says sometimes but it was just like again that

457
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: timing that compared to this energy level. We were at

458
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: the flow of the show that I don't think you

459
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: can do the producer's credit. I don't think you can

460
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: predict necessarily the flow of something like the Golden Globe.

461
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you know, if you've give

462
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: an open an award and she don't say something, you

463
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: know gonna take it. I said, open took us a church,

464
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: she took us to school, she took us at the

465
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: post office so we could write a let her home.

466
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She was doing it all

467
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: speech though, is so amazing because she starts off like confessional,

468
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: like this is this is a little anecdote from my life,

469
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: and it ends on like literally like calling upon thunder.

470
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: It was it was almost it was almost like heroic.

471
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: It was a new you know. I love when she bellows, Okay,

472
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: you have Oprah bellows, I am here, Yes, just raised

473
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: and I and it was so and it was so silly.

474
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: But literally I was like, she's doing this off the

475
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: top of her head, right like she thought about it,

476
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: but you know she wasn't. You know, some people shaking

477
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: with their papers up there and Hooper has got everything

478
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: and it just all comes together. I was like, you

479
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: literally like brought up Rosa parts, a forgotten woman who

480
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: recently passed away and was sexually assaulted. You know, she

481
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: kept it and Sydney patching and everything I think who

482
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: was assaulted. You know, she brought up. She brought in

483
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: Reesy and Rosa and Sydney and it was just kind

484
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: of like you again, we wentn't like we went through

485
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: history right, and she was personal. I'm obsessed with Oprah.

486
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I saw Oprah speak at and this is like when

487
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: I was into her because when I was little, I

488
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: obviously I need the show, but it wasn't for me.

489
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: I wasn't watching it. I knew who she was and

490
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: she was great. But it was when I went to

491
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: a friends graduation at Howard University. Oh please, I'm gonna

492
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: put this out here. Please don't come after me. Lally,

493
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: I went to a friends graduation at Howard University was

494
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: historically black college, and Oprah was their graduations. And Oprah said,

495
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: I never forgot you know, she was, you know, historically

496
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: black college. Everybody you know, mostly mostly black, and she

497
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: was saying, she was like, you know, when I was

498
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, I was raised my grandmother all

499
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: she wanted from me. She said her biggest dream from

500
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: me was that I had good white people that whoever

501
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: she worked for would treat her well basically, you know,

502
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: and she's like, my grandmother never lived to see my success.

503
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: She never lived to see that I did get good

504
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: white people, good white people working for me. Howard University

505
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: rupt dead dead. She read the room and it was

506
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: like and it was literally you know, but what she

507
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: was saying to everybody, she was like basically what she

508
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: was saying this graduate, she was like, your crown has

509
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: been paid for. Wear it. And I wasn't graduating, and

510
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm taking it. I'm going out. And

511
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: that was for me the moment when I was like

512
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm here for up forever. And it was a different

513
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: way you saw her speak, right, because she wouldn't say

514
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: good white people working for me in front of a

515
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: non and also not now because the media would get

516
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: ahole difference exact problem exactly. This is probably ten years ago,

517
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, for her to be

518
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: up there and it was just kind of like who

519
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: she was and how it was like that for me,

520
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, because I think what I had always seen

521
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: up until then, was that polished that the general market,

522
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: that general, general market, up general and it was so

523
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: you know to see to see that and sort of

524
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: be like how she literally just like brought it down

525
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: and everyone was just like throwing up their caps, you

526
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was like literally a different

527
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: world to point out we're all going to do it.

528
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: It's it's so crazy. What I've always associated her with

529
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: is warmth. Like that's I guess if I had one

530
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: word that I could ascribe to her like that, I

531
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: feel since I was a child watching her, like her

532
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: being on in the house and being present in the

533
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: you know the culture, if you will, it's warmth. She

534
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: just exudes. You just know, like mentioned the hugs. You know,

535
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: the hugs are good. You know, the hugs are bomb

536
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: ass hugs. Definitely, that's someone who she in the eighth grade.

537
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: And Denver is in many ways, you know what, No,

538
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: it's Denver's right now, but back and back in the

539
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: day and when I was in the eighth grade. This

540
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: is two thousand and three, will say, And Denver is

541
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: just a culturally um devoid place and just like people

542
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't come like you wouldn't see celebrities, but Oprah is

543
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: in town, and the entire in Denver and in the

544
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: entire city shut down. People were just talking about it.

545
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: A town. My mom's over. My mom My mom was

546
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: standing in line for five hours to see if to

547
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: just get a glimpse of Opra from across like the window,

548
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: and like everyone is just like sucking, just going crazy

549
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: over Oprah. And then and that was like, that was

550
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: the moment moment for me that I was like, oh,

551
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and I'm reading East Eviden because she told

552
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: me to like all this, all this stuff. And then

553
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: but then the moment that Oprah clicked for me was

554
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: was just her Barbara Walter's interview after after she had

555
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: just announced Oh and she like that moment where she cries,

556
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: tears up and talks about game or talks about like

557
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: her like going into a car dealership and buying two

558
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: cars because she was like, because hello, I could like

559
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: she was like yeah, oh, I was like, oh yeah,

560
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: you were this, you were this amazing, amazing like just

561
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: just a success or anyway. Um, but yeah, the mother

562
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: I never had, the sister, the best friend everyone deserves.

563
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know a better but I don't know a

564
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: better person. So good so good. It's so good. Anyway,

565
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: what do we think results of the evening? Have we

566
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: all seen Ladybird? We have not a fan, didn't. I'm

567
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: anna this is a safe space. Certainly, certainly I have

568
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: not seen Ladybird yet, and I will tell you that again.

569
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't a story that I was like, I have

570
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: to see. So one part about it that I did

571
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: want to see, and um was you know, the mother

572
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: daughter relationship, because says that's got something. I'm like, I

573
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: feel like that might speak to my soul. But I hadn't.

574
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I know she's great. I'm gonna say I

575
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: loved her, Sirsha right. She was in that action movie

576
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: where she's like a little feral killer. Do you remember

577
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: that She's like a little kid, but she was like

578
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: she was a ferreal killer in the Lovely Fair Hannah

579
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: Hannah and I love just since Hannah. I think the

580
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: girl's amazing. I call her baby and hih just in

581
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: her like you're absolutely, I think she's wonderful. It was

582
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: more like the um Like again, Greta Garwood doesn't speak

583
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: to me, and I say, doesn't speak to me. That's

584
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: like my my reference is like, it's not no one

585
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: has to be bad, right, but it's more like, okay,

586
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: you're quirky, I don't do it right. But I went

587
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: into the movie with those same never cared with those

588
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: same sort of preconceived things. And then just the way

589
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: that the mother daughter relationship is portrayed, I felt very

590
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: very very truthful and not maybe not universal, but I

591
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: related to it with not even my mother but my dad.

592
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: That's me and my dad. And then the second the movie,

593
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: and when I walked out the theater, I called him up.

594
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: I was like, and I told him, I was like,

595
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: I just saw a really nice movie. It was about

596
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: like a daughter and a mother, but it reminded me

597
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: of us and blah blah blah, and I just want

598
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: to say I love you, and I don't know, I mean,

599
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm not nice. A movie that drove you to take

600
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: an action like that, and I feel like, and that's

601
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: like the little Anna that everyone has now with lady

602
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: birds my parents. As soon as the movie, well, I

603
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: know a lot of people were like, oh, I Like,

604
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I cried, you know what I mean?

605
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Like I felt like a lot of white women were

606
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: telling me about them crying um, and I no longer

607
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: mad at that because initially white women told me they

608
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: cried at Wonder Woman, and I was like, okay. And

609
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: then I was literally on a check flight watching Wonder Woman,

610
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: and I was like running across the battlefield. It was

611
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: it was that first well, that was a moment, but

612
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: it was that first fight of all the women, and

613
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I was like okay. And then there were there were

614
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: black women there too as well, right, and that in

615
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: in that group, and so I was like okay, because

616
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I think that's why I tend to be a little

617
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: less enthused. I wouldn't. I mean, maybe I resistant, but

618
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: some of them like just because you know, when the

619
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: women don't look like me, it doesn't feel aspirational, it

620
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: doesn't feel relatable. It doesn't you know, when a woman

621
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: is held to a high standard but then she's like

622
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: blonde and blue eyed. It that's part of it, right,

623
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: so so much of it. I'd be like, I'm like,

624
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I get it, but I don't feel empowered.

625
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: And yet when I saw a wonder Woman, even though

626
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, she's like ISRAELI I was like, okay, girls, yeah,

627
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm about to CrossFit. I was it. Yeah, And so

628
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: that's I like okay, well, like maybe I see Lady Burton,

629
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: I feel it. Maybe I feel it. That's the thing

630
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: that is really actually that's a great point. It's I

631
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: have a way. I don't know if you feel this,

632
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: but it's been like that with me with romance movies too,

633
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: Like you never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever see

634
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: a homosexual love affair on screen. And so I think

635
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: every time I see some sort of love story, which

636
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: is yeah, I always leave like emotional, but not for

637
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: the reason where I felt like thank God they got together.

638
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: It's always like a little sad because it's like, man,

639
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: like I wish that like that was out there right

640
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: and that and you know, for I guess POC, that

641
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: must feel like sucking everything. Well, there's so much writing

642
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: on this movie coming out crazy rich Asians with constant

643
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Wu and like Aquafine and like every actor, Ronnie changing

644
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: like everybody, and like like they're texting groups that I'm

645
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: in with me and like all these people that are

646
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: just like crazy rich ation panic groups. Being like this

647
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: movie has to do well, and right, I probably won't,

648
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: but it has to put out there that it's going

649
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: to do well, and I well, you know, I think

650
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: another way, and this is maybe a more cynical way,

651
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: but you have to remember that no one expects much

652
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: from it, right, so it's gonna do better. It's like, yeah,

653
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: I didn't think we won't do ship. We're coming out

654
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the streets, you know, the same We're like, we spent

655
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: a dollar fit in a movie. That's because you didn't

656
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: think we was gonna come out for it. I think,

657
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: even more profoundly than that get Out, which I actually took.

658
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I voted for them for the ensemble and I voted

659
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: for him for lead actor. I think because I was.

660
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: I watched it last night for the first time. Now, God,

661
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: tell me about journey. Welcome to my journey, my journey.

662
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: I've been in this place for so long. Yeah, yeah,

663
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: he's been waiting for me to watch it. Now. Here's

664
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: why I haven't watched it. I really can't watch scary movies.

665
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Like even last night. I actually had to take a

666
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: break in the middle because it got to be like

667
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: a little The break was um right, Actually it was

668
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: towards the end spoiler er forget Out. It's when it

669
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: becomes clear, when it becomes clear that he is going

670
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: to be operated on. OK. I had to take a

671
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: short break and that was actually towards the end of them,

672
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: there was like half an hour laft so um. But

673
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: I thought it was unbelievable. And I will say this

674
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: something because I was thinking about, you know, acting while

675
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: I was watching it, and I was thinking to myself

676
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: because I had the screener because of Sag. It is

677
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: so hard to lead a horror film. You have to

678
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: believably have so many things revealed to you, so much

679
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: shock and horror and hannock and intense despair. That is

680
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: not easy. And the acting challenges in that movie, not

681
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: only just for him but across the everybody, for everybody,

682
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: for everyone, were so high. I talked to Rachel when

683
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: about it today, like it was such an ask of

684
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: all those actors and what a complicated script. Well that's

685
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: the thing, right, because it's not just because like some

686
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: horror movies where you know, the first ten seconds you

687
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: kill a girl and then maybe thirty minutes later someone

688
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: else dies and your watch people get picked off. You

689
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: had that opening that showed you, okay, this is what

690
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: our stakes are. But then it is a very slow

691
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: bird where literally it is like so no one's doing

692
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: anything crazy, but it's gotta be a little menssing. Yes,

693
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: that's hardy that like the whole time, it's almost impossible

694
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: to do because like at any point you could just

695
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: be like really like this this bitch that's the main character,

696
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: is not like letting on that like there's something we're

697
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: going on. And the thing with this movie is it's

698
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: such it's so slow, these the peel back of something

699
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: weird and up is going on, and the and the family.

700
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: It's Bradley Winford, Katherine Keener and Alison Williams. They play

701
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: it's so real and grounded. Honestly, White Bait is the

702
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: world role. Alison she was, but she was perfect really

703
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: like I was like, this is it. That's the best

704
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: thing she's ever done. And I actually I'm a fan

705
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: of hers on Girls. I think that I think that

706
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: she's little bit more aware than everyone thinks she is.

707
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: But this I was. I was actually surprised she's not

708
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: in the words conversation a little bit more because the

709
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: movie doesn't work without that performance. It doesn't work. And

710
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that is like that's like a deck

711
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: of cards that movie, because one thing is weird and

712
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: it almost got weird with the brother he was he

713
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: was the guy to me who yeah, literally immediately like,

714
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: that's probably the point where if I'm him, If I

715
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: have one tiny qualm with the movie, it's like, I

716
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: leave when the brother tries to find me. Yea, when

717
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: the crazy eyed white brother who looks who looks crazy,

718
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: let's terrifying. I wondered about that cast, and I was like,

719
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe we cast someone who we can believe he's having

720
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Alison Williams equivalent. Yes, he's having a moment because what's

721
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: his name? I forget. He's in Three Billboards. He's also

722
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: in Florida Project, and in Florida he was in this

723
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: movie today to um, I just we're mentioning Lady Burton

724
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: get Out, And those are the only two movies this

725
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: year in the Awards. I think it's a good year,

726
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: but those really are the only two movies for me

727
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: that I'm like inspired to like write or to exactly.

728
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I loved, love, loved get Out. It was

729
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to win the Globes only because

730
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to push it into the Oscars conversation. I

731
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: just wanted to be in that like I wanted to

732
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: be such a contender. But at the same time. It

733
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: is not a musical comedy, so it wasn't going to

734
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: you know what I really wanted. And I'm hoping because

735
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, on the w J side, I gave him screenplay.

736
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 1: I gave it like I was like, I was coming

737
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: for whatever. I will nominate it for everything what I

738
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: can do, because it is, you know, again, to be

739
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: a first film to get that tone to you know, um,

740
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: you know something he said, um, he was like, I

741
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: didn't move. He's like, I did a movie that white

742
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: people saw where there was not a single good white person, right,

743
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: because that's a big deal because you can have that bad,

744
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: but there's always usually a white savior or somebody who's like,

745
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: I'll help you. And it was he made this movie

746
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: where they were all bad and it was still like

747
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: everyone came Like I saw the movie on Harlem and

748
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: it was like hacked and mixed and loud and so

749
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: funny and perfect, and it was like that was you

750
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: know that he did that, you know what I mean,

751
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: like the first time I wasn't annoyed by Harlem gentrification.

752
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: Be here together. That's why that I think that movie

753
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: should win Best Picture because I think when you talk

754
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: about Best Picture at the end of the year. It

755
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: should say something about the time. It should say something

756
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: about the year. And I think that watching Ladybird win

757
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: Best Musical Comedy, it said something about that moment. I

758
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: think Get Out says something about all of it, like

759
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: that's what I want to see. And I think that Actually,

760
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: if it's in drama, I think it beats three Billboards.

761
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: I hope we can like yeah, yes, it's the category

762
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: and that categorization that sucks it up, because I'm sure

763
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: Universal thought we can't throw this in drama. They won't

764
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: take it seriously. I think they would have because it

765
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: had nominations. It's showing up everywhere. Jordan people like tweeted

766
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: like the day that like it's a documentary. He was like,

767
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: this is a documentary, which I also tweeted, I mean,

768
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: groop mind and it's so funny too. Yeah, it's like

769
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: there's no good white person because Alison Williams on I

770
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: think it was like on seminary she was like, it's

771
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: crazy because people will come up to set fires. People

772
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: will come up to me and be like, okay, but

773
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: your character was like like it was good though, like

774
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: she loved him and just no, she's an evil, disgusting

775
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: human being, Like it's hard to understand. Yeah not Yeah,

776
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: it's like no, and it's all the way and it's

777
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: only white people who go up to her and say,

778
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: we're just like trying to find some iyota of Like

779
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: it's like you did care? What movie did you watch?

780
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: That you can't even like that's literally only on you

781
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: be like I thought it was you know, I could

782
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: tell you really loved him. It's like the whole bitch

783
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: that's entirely on you. It says a lot about it,

784
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: so so so on you. Okay, so we're gonna take

785
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: a really quick break and then we we'll be right

786
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: back with Naomi. Yes, okay, we're back with Naomi. We

787
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: were just talking over the break about how genre Matt

788
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: and Matt and Naomi are both sort of for telling

789
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: of are for telling this sort of new trend that

790
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: movies will ketch up to TV where TV is really

791
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: thriving in genre might now and genre is being rewarded.

792
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: I just think we were talking about this. You know,

793
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: the biggest show on television is Game of Thrones. You

794
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: gotta imagine if we saw the numbers that Stranger Things

795
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: will be right behind that. You know, big little lies,

796
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: huge in its market, probably dominated like things like this

797
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: Handmaid's Tale even you know what I mean, these these

798
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: shows that are getting hoisted up these period period pieces too, right,

799
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: I mean, well, well the thing is about period pieces

800
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: is that's that's like I think what classically the awards

801
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: system and the studio system has always thought, here's your awards,

802
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: bade his is the only option. But I think that audiences,

803
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: because of the rise of television right now, we're saying

804
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: we like genre stuff. Genre stuff can be good. I mean,

805
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people are I don't agree

806
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: with this, but a lot of people want to see

807
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Wonder Woman get sneak into one of the eight or

808
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: nine Best Picture slots. You know. I think when The

809
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Dark Knight didn't sneak in there for Best Picture, people

810
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: were like, that was the movie of the year. And

811
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing is with the downfall of

812
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein, I think and the kind of waking up

813
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: of Hollywood, which I think has to happen or it's

814
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna fucking crumble to what people want is it's it's

815
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: not what it used to be. Like, I think we

816
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: we don't want to be just given these four or

817
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: five options for what are the prestige things at the

818
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: end of the year, because even think about it, like

819
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: the things that are catching on that people didn't really

820
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: think would catch on are like Titania, you know, like

821
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: it's we What what are these period films that are

822
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Phantom Thread, I guess Dark Shodows, Darkest Hour.

823
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: To me, it's dark Shadow. It's gonna be dark Shadow

824
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: for me. But you know, and you know, I just

825
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: think we gotta get more creative. And I think we

826
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: might see that with the fall of Weinstein and the

827
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: usher ring into the new era. I hope we see

828
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: a big, bold statement we're going to embrace get Out.

829
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: I hope get out with I'm putting it into the universe. Yeah,

830
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: and then get Out Manifest, Manifest. I'm just word that

831
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: since it didn't like clear hurdles quote unquote the globes,

832
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: it's not gonna like but it was just not in

833
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: the categories where it's gonna win, which is why I

834
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: was really kind of annoyed. I was like, you put

835
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: it in a category that even the director says it

836
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't be right. So I think also two ones. He

837
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: says that that also kind of gives them the past,

838
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like you didn't put it in

839
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: a place where I was going to succeed. That's the

840
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: thing is, I don't you set him up to fail exactly.

841
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: I think they thought they were helping. I think they

842
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: thought it's gonna be easier to beat Lady Byrne and

843
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: Titania then call Me by your Name and three Billboards

844
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: and Dunkirk. I think they saw dun Kirk and said,

845
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: get out. Can't compete with dun Kirk. Right, then can

846
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: compete with right right? Especially again, like it wasn't just here.

847
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: It also did really outside of the US, you know,

848
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: like it did say something. And when you make a movie,

849
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: especially again as unassuming as you know, cheaply made. I

850
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: think four or five million dollars movie language. Half of

851
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: them had to go to Bradley Whitford. It's actually culture

852
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: number thirty. Bradley Whitford is a box office straw. And

853
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: you're right, it went to Bradley I hope, but I said,

854
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: I said, I mean, Bradley Whitford's in town, Okay. I

855
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: was so happy to see him. And also kind of

856
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: white hair on certain white men can Okay, I feel

857
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: like we could, we could dive into a word season

858
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: all the day to day. I've been, I've been. I

859
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: actually wrote a missive today on Facebook about Iton. I'm

860
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: down for Iton, I'm here for Ion. You see it, Yes,

861
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: I did. I voted for Margo today A good for you.

862
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: I think that she delivered the single best acted scene

863
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: of the year, which one the makeup. I thought that

864
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: was the emotional climax of the For me, it was

865
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: her at the moment she really had me was when

866
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: she was getting sentenced. That was the kicker. That was

867
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: something I was like, Okay, she's she's here to stay.

868
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: She's here to stay. She's so she produced that film,

869
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 1: She's here to stay. UM. But we should ask the question,

870
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: the question, Naomi, which is what was the culture that

871
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: made you say cultures? For me? You were in your

872
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: closet and you saw culture and you said, I don't

873
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: wear of this for the rest of my life. Itself.

874
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: Funn You know, I grew up as an only child,

875
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: and so the two things I did were read and

876
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: watch TV UM. So it's funny because you know, obviously

877
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: I listened to Um and her different things. So in

878
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: some ways we could say Babysitters Club cultures was addicted.

879
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean I owned UM. I was a member of

880
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: the Babysitters Kids Club, like books sent to me to

881
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: the point where I think I was thirteen, We sent

882
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: almost a hundred books duplicates to the local library. My

883
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: mom was like, because I would have the books and

884
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: then part of the club, I would get the books.

885
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: And so I had doubles my duplicates and gave them

886
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: to the local library and like, but that's how many

887
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: I had. And just when you know, I'm at home

888
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: now and like, the books are still there exactly, I

889
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: will not get Yeah, I'm grown and I'm keeping them.

890
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: I met Anna and Martin twice. Um, I was afraid

891
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: in silent both times. I was like literally like because

892
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: she was she wasn't And it was so funny because

893
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: you see this picture. It's like literally a plain white one,

894
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, like she was like literally like she was

895
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: in a turtleneck. I had on a horrible puffy jacket

896
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: and she was just like you know she but she

897
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: was not this imposing person by me, and she was

898
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: like I was terrified of her. Um. That was a

899
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: big thing for me. UM. That was definitely and then

900
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I would also say to you know again, watching some

901
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: much TV, a group on so many Disney Channel shows

902
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: and like everything as how I knew I wanted to

903
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: be an actor. A big thing for me was Angela

904
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: on Boy Meat's World. Wow, Angela Broken Open. She was

905
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: Riders Strong's Shawn's girlfriends towards the later season at the

906
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: end of high school. She was a black girl. She

907
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: was his girlfriend. And it wonder about who, I asked,

908
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: being black was the problem. He was the problem. He

909
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: was immature, and he being such a right or strong

910
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: about it. He was such a strong rider and that

911
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: was his that was his girlfriend, and that was huge

912
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: for me. Honestly, nobody really talks about that. I'm always talking,

913
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: always talking about Angelad. It was huge for me. And

914
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: also write Strong was like the hot one, you know

915
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. I was already like into him anyway,

916
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: and then he brought home this black woman and then

917
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: I remember at the time she was looking it up,

918
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, and be like, who's she was like older

919
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: than everybody, Like she was like an adult. They were

920
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: all teens in the universe of the show. You know,

921
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, older, I don't know everything about it.

922
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: I was like, and it made me feel like maybe

923
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: they're space for me. But that was, you know, especially

924
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: a Disney Channel show, and like they really it was

925
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: a lot to do, she said, broke it up like

926
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: Angela and Boime's were al was like, maybe it's time,

927
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: you know what, as a love interest. It was huge

928
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: because they always did the thing where it was like,

929
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: and there's a black friend, there's a there's a exactly

930
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: the black guy who wise cracks, you know what I mean,

931
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: or maybe you've got a nerdy black girlfriend and she's

932
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: always the one who's like, she's not talking me now exactly.

933
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: That was the first she was truly like kind of

934
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: like a straight man like girlfriend on that show, which

935
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: again you could there's problems with the archetype of that role,

936
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: but we had only ever seen white girls play that

937
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: role and the same kind of white girl to Pango,

938
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: white girl, a white girl named to Panga, a black

939
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: girl name Angela. I loved what they were doing. And

940
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: then in the show, how did Angela come in? Was

941
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: she a friend of someone's? And then started day I

942
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: think she was just knew at school, you know, like

943
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: I think she kind of came in with the new

944
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: season the new school here. Yeah, and she was like

945
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Angela and Angela like had her had her ship together

946
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: and writer was kind of a mess and she made

947
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: him better. You know. Did they go to college and

948
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: then they meet or was she come to the high school?

949
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: She was high school? High school? Okay, she was high school, yes,

950
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: and it was and they didn't. It was never a thing.

951
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: There was never a very special she's black episode. Honestly,

952
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: listeners call me out, um, but I don't remember that

953
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: being like, it's like, it was never John You're doting

954
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: a black girl. No one ever said that as far

955
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: as I saw. And you know what's interesting about those

956
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: Disney shows is they did come in with a snake

957
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: attack sometimes and have like this very special episode. Like

958
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: I remember there was an episode of Lizie McGuire one

959
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: time where, um, I forget Miranda had It becomes clear

960
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: that Miranda has like a problem with food. She's developing

961
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: an eating disorder, and there's this scene where um, Gordon

962
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: and Lizzie like kind of confront her and they're like,

963
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: we care about you and we want to make sure

964
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: that you're okay because we know that you're not. And

965
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: she's kind of like you're right, guys, that's not Everything

966
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: is okay. And then the episode kind of ends and

967
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: my dad was like, I like that, I'm gonna show

968
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: that to my students. My dad was a health teacher.

969
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: I gonna show that to my students. I like that,

970
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: what is this show? It's really good? Um, but it

971
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: was a teaching stool. McGuire was a teacher. But like

972
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: every other episode was like, oh no, my my foothurts.

973
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's like I'm not I'm not eating disorders.

974
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But yeah, I mean I see, I

975
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: shamefully have to say that I have a Disney Channel

976
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: blind Spot, thank you wellic No, I'm just saying I

977
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't get cable. I had none of it. So then

978
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: so then because my parents thought they were doing me

979
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: like a huge service by like they we're limiting the options,

980
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: but not, what I ended up doing was just watching

981
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: like lewd ass mad TV, Sketchy right, and like by

982
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: the time I was nine, was saying it was like

983
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: quoting like insane, like the Van Komb Lady just saying

984
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: that crazy things, and I was like, oh, this is

985
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: not normal. But I were cable queens, yes, true Cable

986
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: queen Cable, Queen Cable, Queen Cable, queen always at it all,

987
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: I had it all. Yeah, I was watching All Your

988
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: Afraid of the Do okay. See that's that's where it

989
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: started from me. I couldn't get through it. It was

990
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: too scary, it was I loved it all, like I

991
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: read goose Bumps, then the older version of goose Bumps,

992
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: Fear Street. Yes, like into all of it. I've always

993
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: loved her. The first movie I wrote movie probably like

994
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: thirty pages, but it was in high school, and it

995
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: was called People Get Dead, and it was meant to

996
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: be like a funnier, like a cooler version of Scream.

997
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: But like I always love that stuff. We have to

998
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: have that, We have to have a full length people

999
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: people make it even funnier than Scream? Do it? Now?

1000
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: Are you a horror fan? Like? Is that something that

1001
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: I really like it? It's funny though. Now I like

1002
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: to watch him with people. It's not that I'm afraid,

1003
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: but because horror does have that like cheese effect and

1004
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: it's so fun to kind of comment on. I don't

1005
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: like to watch him by myself. And Drew bu is

1006
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: not a horror fan because for him, he's like, well,

1007
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't get scared, so I don't like it's not

1008
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: doing what it's supposed to do. Like he just doesn't

1009
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: feel it. Is it that he doesn't get scared or that,

1010
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: or is it that like he just just isn't like

1011
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: affected by like eience, I guess the same thing he's not.

1012
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: He's like because he's kind of like yeah, like he's like,

1013
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna happen, not obviously exactly, but he's

1014
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: sort of like okay, and he's like, well, I know

1015
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: it's not a real person dying, so you know, I mean,

1016
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: so he doesn't he just like because logic his way

1017
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: out of it, whereas to me it is so real

1018
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: and insane, like it's so I don't really like as

1019
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: much the ones that involve a house where it's like

1020
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: about an all house now talented about in all house.

1021
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: I like, Um, I like more of the we're living

1022
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: lives and someone has come upon us and decided we

1023
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: must die that you know into like I know what

1024
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: you did last summer, like all of them. Those are fun, Yeah,

1025
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: those are fun. See the ones that get me. The

1026
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: thing is, I'm just very susceptible to a jump scare,

1027
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: which is all those things, my body physically hurts. No,

1028
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: I get it. I get anxious, But it's funny. I

1029
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: get just as anxious when I'm watching a show like

1030
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: Better Call Soul, where I know it's like, don't go

1031
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: in there because you go say something and they don't

1032
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: know you're lying in and then I get on edge.

1033
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: So it's the same kind of anxiety, which is why

1034
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm like, Okay, we'll do for all of

1035
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: them well, because I would rather watch a jump scary

1036
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: thing than like sit through three episodes of Breaking Bad

1037
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: being like want. I had to stop watching Breaking Back

1038
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: because it was too much. Yeah, maybe there was this

1039
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: I've said this before, but the scene where Gus slits

1040
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: someone's throat in front of them to show them whose

1041
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: boss and that they are his bitch. Like I never

1042
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: saw that and I never will know it was. I

1043
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: had to stop. I was like, Okay, this show is

1044
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: officially too good. Game of Thrones I can barely. I

1045
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: I really can't because of the violence and like the

1046
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: bigness of it, like it just I don't know's it's

1047
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: too much. So you say, are you afraid of the dark?

1048
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: That maybe made me think maybe that was the Impetus

1049
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: because that ship was really scary. It was terrified. The

1050
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: Tia and Tamara episode. Tell you don't remember the Tia

1051
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: and Tamara episode. Tia and Tamara episode. By the way,

1052
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: I as I was leaving the house, I caught a

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00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: little bit of the real Maybe it's Tara, it's Tamara

1054
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: and Lonnie Love is on it um and one of

1055
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: the checks from three w But the lady, the ladies

1056
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: were very emotional about Oprah. They all agree she shouldn't

1057
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: be president, but they were moved and Tamara had a

1058
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: cheerful moment. But it's this is very much a Tamara

1059
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: day because you bring up at your dark and their

1060
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: episode was this and this will sunk with me forever.

1061
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: So Tamara is living her life and she has this

1062
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: best friend and something happens where they go to this

1063
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: pet store and they get a lizard and they bring

1064
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: the lizard home. Now the lizards like a magic lizard.

1065
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: So the lizard somehow becomes a clone of Tamara. And

1066
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: of course, so Tia, who's this lizard, starts living the

1067
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: life of Tamara and she's evil and the best friend

1068
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: is like, something's weird, I don't know, lizard, she becomes

1069
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Um the lizard, but Tamara or she gets like locked

1070
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: or something. Tamara is then becomes a person again somehow.

1071
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: So there's this scene where Tea and Tamara are both

1072
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: in the world, but really there's only one of them,

1073
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: so now they're both out there, and it's this horrifying

1074
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: scene where the best friend sees both of them and

1075
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: she's like freaked out. And it's somehow been established that

1076
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: if you spray one of them with water, they will

1077
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: turn back into the lizard and that will like that,

1078
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: that's the curse. I love it. I love a simple

1079
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: elemental exactly. And you know they only had like twelve

1080
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: minutes to step the step and the world build in

1081
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: twelve minutes, all this stuff, the lizard, the water, and

1082
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: I remember it to this day. So that's how you know,

1083
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: did it win a Pulitzer Prize? I don't know what

1084
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: do they win for this ship? Fucking peabody Send the

1085
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: peabody over post taste um but fucking So. Then the

1086
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: best friend is like looking from one of them to

1087
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: the other and she's like, it's me, your friend, and

1088
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: like no, she's like it's me. I know this thing

1089
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: about you, and it's like no, remember this, and like

1090
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: one of them says something that really connects and she

1091
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: sprays the other one with water and that she turns

1092
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: into the lizard. So then they hug and they're like,

1093
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god. Then the last scene

1094
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: in the episode, it was actually Tia going over to

1095
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: the lizard and being like, well, like says, well bite,

1096
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like you even I was like,

1097
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: this isn't that scary? But that's the thing it with you.

1098
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: The fear is in the injustice, especially as a child,

1099
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: right because you want it to all. You want to

1100
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: have the scary and what usually like. But then at

1101
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: the end it's all sorted right, like the evil is

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00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: defeated in some capacity. Not this that is that will

1103
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: shake you to I'm saying it's existentially terrifying. It's irresponsible

1104
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: for kids to be watching it. What was that? Because

1105
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: I would read goose Bumps at the appropriate age and

1106
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: be like, this isn't sing scary? Did you genuinely find

1107
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: it scary? And with spear Streets, I never read fear Street. No,

1108
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: it was never really scary because it's funny because when

1109
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm reading something the scary than it's up to my

1110
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: mind to conjure right, how avil or how gross or

1111
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: how whatever something. So I never really took it there.

1112
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: But what I've always liked about that kind of stuff

1113
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: because it's usually this mystery who's doing it? Why are

1114
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: they're doing it? And that engagement and the same reason

1115
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: why the true crime now and like all my procedurals

1116
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: and stuff, I am distracted enough like it for me

1117
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: is like the closest I can kind of come to

1118
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: being like out of my head, you know, to being like, oh,

1119
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen here? You know what's gonna happen next?

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01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's what I liked about it. I

1121
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: wasn't terrified, but I was definitely engrossed. I needed to

1122
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: know it was a portal into some distressing situation that

1123
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: you could just like dip your toe and then and

1124
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,479
Speaker 1: then opt out is whenever you want it, because okay,

1125
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: you know what, and I will say that was very astute. Okay,

1126
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: whatever the you're gonna get that, Copey Bow, come on

1127
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: a Stewart the um uh the TV show with whenever

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01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: they would do Night of the Living dummy. Those were

1129
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: actually really they're scary. There is I'm terrified like dummies.

1130
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: The movie I remember I saw you Know What to Do?

1131
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: I saw I was a kid, maybe six years old,

1132
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: seven years old. They took me to see Child's play,

1133
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: not like just took me. It was like we were

1134
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: all everyone's going and it was like bring the kid

1135
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: to no fucking things. They were just like, let's bring

1136
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: Naomi to the the child now terrified for life. And my

1137
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: cousins didn't help because they totally terrified me. My cousin

1138
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: I we even had this toy where you put it

1139
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 1: like cassette tape in her back and all would talk.

1140
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: So it's like so my cousin, they go, her name

1141
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: is Susie Scribbles, was like the actual dollar Naomi, you

1142
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: gotta come tame to Susie. I'll go over there and

1143
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: they've recorded Hi, Naomi, I'm Susie. Chucky sister want to play.

1144
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: I hid in the bathroom for no. No, that's terrified

1145
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: because that was irresponsible of them. Evil evil. There's an

1146
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: evil in their spirits and I feel with Chucky like

1147
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: it really shouldn't be scary, but it fucking is. Okay,

1148
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: like it when everyone was like did you see it? Yep? Okay,

1149
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: see I would rather die than see it. I am

1150
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: on record like when you tell me that the kid's

1151
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna I don't want kids dead. I know, I know,

1152
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't. This hasn't happened a certain honestly, I don't

1153
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: want kids dead. And the lights went out for the

1154
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: listeners at home, the lights went out in the studio.

1155
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: And now I will go hide in the bathroom for hours.

1156
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Um put they're back. But here's the thing, like,

1157
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: did you do you like this new it? I thought

1158
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: it was fine again knowing what was gonna come, you

1159
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, so I was more like, oh,

1160
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I do think clowns are scary. I find

1161
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: the clowns creepy. But there is I just said, dipping

1162
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: your toe. There's something about you know, I get to

1163
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: see this, but I also get to leave many minutes

1164
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: right and go about my business. And that's very I

1165
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: think part of it. It's almost kind of a personal

1166
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: dare to stare in it too long, think of it

1167
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: as think of it as a think. And here's the thing,

1168
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: here's the weird thing. I'll do anything park ride, I've

1169
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: been skydiving, I've done this, and I will go to

1170
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: Haunted House is I kind of I'm obsessed, but I

1171
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: have the physical ability to run away on that ship,

1172
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: whereas in a movie, I don't know, I feel like

1173
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's maybe it's the sound. I don't know

1174
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: what it is. It's probably I didn't go through a

1175
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: horror movie kick when I was like fourteen, like right

1176
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: after Saw came out and it was like Saw the Grudge. Okay,

1177
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: right prior to that was The Ring Um, the remake

1178
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: of I've talked about this before, but the remake of

1179
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: The Health Have Eyes was truly disturbing. No, because it's

1180
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: actually really fucked. It's because there's like sexual there's like

1181
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: srapes clear from loss, Like this is insane, I mean,

1182
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: and that's what you could get away with. At that time.

1183
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: It was like that was when I was like four

1184
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: fifteen movies and I remember the one movie that came back,

1185
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: it was like the seventh one in a row. Also

1186
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: remember that movie with Dakota Fanning and Robert de Narrow

1187
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: Hide and Seek. Oh god, yes, fuck that movie they

1188
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: threw Elizabeth Shoo out a window. The one that I

1189
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: was like, I'm never going again was when Michael Keaton

1190
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: was in a low point in his career, and he

1191
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: did the movie White Noise. Remember the movie White Noise.

1192
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: I do remember White Noise, and the scary thing about

1193
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: it was just that White Noise would come on the television.

1194
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. I don't like if it's

1195
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: like we're in a house and some of these creepy

1196
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: like paranormal activity like the house. Yeah, I'm kind of like,

1197
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: I get it. It's like you can make it in

1198
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: a weekend, but it doesn't do What were the circumstances

1199
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: you described? I just the way you ordered that was beautiful.

1200
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: It was we're living, We're going about our lives and

1201
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: someone wants to kill someone comes in and decides that

1202
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: we should die. That's like, I don't know, it's like fun,

1203
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: it's fun. It's crazy. It's funny. Now, So if you

1204
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: are you and Jubu are hanging out, like what's the

1205
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: genre movie you guys are? Television show? What are you

1206
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: guys going to? It's not horror, it's not horror. He

1207
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do horror. Sometimes I can try to

1208
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 1: make him watch it, but then he'll just like play

1209
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: Candy crosh on his phone. Here. That's that's self care

1210
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: to be detached that um we it's funny when we

1211
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: can never find anything. When we're like, let's just watch something,

1212
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: We'll put on some sort of Netflix stand up specials

1213
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: stand like if it's like if all sales, but then

1214
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: so much of our shows, like Firstance, we're really excited.

1215
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Baskets is coming back. I love Baskets.

1216
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about that show. He looks amazing in

1217
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: the promos on the posters, Louis Anderson, we were gonna say,

1218
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: don't you speak of I know well, and also just

1219
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: him being in the promos where I'm like, yes, because

1220
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: this show is Mama Baskets. Okay, Mama Baskets is the

1221
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: heart and the soul. That is the character I am

1222
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: most invested in. It's such a weird show. I think

1223
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: it's so interesting that it hasn't gotten like a globe

1224
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: numb because it's weird and the form for some stuff, right,

1225
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: Louization was last season maybe like the very first seas.

1226
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,959
Speaker 1: I forget what it was it was on before. I

1227
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: don't know if it was an Emmy and I think

1228
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: it's something too. Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, but there's something

1229
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm like Baskets is just so weird. Um, but I

1230
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: love that show. I love you know, Catastrophe is one

1231
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: of my favorites. Um, A lot of like I think,

1232
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: I like, uh, comedies with gravitas. You know what that's

1233
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: you know what I feel like. I feel like I'm

1234
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 1: shouting into it like a like a like a well

1235
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: or something that's not an expression shouting trying to get

1236
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: that lizard to trying to wait back up to wait

1237
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: before wait before I forget tamarrow Uh. Tamara shared an

1238
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: amazing stuffing recipe on Thanksgiving and I made it and

1239
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: it was delicious, a delicious stuff savory stuffing with meat,

1240
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: with sausage but also with little bits of apple. It

1241
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: was just savory, was delicious. I just want to say

1242
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: now that we're talking about Samara and I have to say,

1243
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: shout out to sister or sister. It's actually rule number

1244
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: one one culture. Jack is Queen Mary and Jackie apparently

1245
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: is she loves to block on Twitter for no good reason. Really,

1246
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: she has no time, has no time for your toxicity.

1247
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: Friend of the show, Matt Bellasi, if you're listening, Um,

1248
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: he has a great podcast called Unhappy Hour. He pin

1249
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: his pin tweet is a screenshot of Jackie Jackue Henry's

1250
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: blocking him for no reason. She's like, I don't know

1251
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: what I did, like I love you like Jackie Harry

1252
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: or Jackie Henry Harry Harry Harry. Sorry, um um, but yeah, no,

1253
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: she's Queen Jackie. She took lines that were not laugh

1254
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: lines and made them laugh lines, like she's the queen

1255
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: of an inflection to like turn something. That's the way

1256
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: she says it. It's not it's literally just a tone

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: like I mean, y'all did y'all see two to seven?

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01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: So when I said, Mary, were you familiar? I know

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01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: where it comes from, but I have never seen I

1260
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: know it's for the birthplace of Regina King. Yes, yes,

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: where she was. She was born on the set seven

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: and her her first role. Um Naomi, I um, I

1263
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: think I just need to ask you, what is it

1264
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: like writing for Andrea? Is it? I mean, miss Martin,

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: Miss Martin, Miss Martin on Great News? Just just just

1266
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: just talk about the show. I mean, like it's well, no,

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's uh, it was great in general.

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01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: You know it's obviously I came in on season two,

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: so they already had a little bit of not a

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01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: little bit a system in place. It was interesting to, um,

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, Andrew is so fucking good, she's the actress.

1272
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: But at the same time, the style I think is

1273
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: so different that thirty right, that kind of jokey, jokey,

1274
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: super fast paced. It was so interesting because okay, i'll

1275
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: tell you my one Andrew. So there's like one thing

1276
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: where her character cut well, it's more like being on set,

1277
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: like the one time I was on set. So I

1278
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: co wrote episode twelve, and so I was on set

1279
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: doing that episode and her character is like wearing she's

1280
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: a Chicos jacket because Chicos is her character's life. Um,

1281
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: and she's like trying to get her jacket off, so

1282
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: she's kind of like pumping her shoulders and the line

1283
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I think I'm turking And then

1284
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: like on set and then literally she's like, Naomi, we

1285
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: need you, and I was like, what what do you need?

1286
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: What can I do? How can hell? And he goes,

1287
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: can you show Andrew turking in? It was so my

1288
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: Andrew Martin stories that I had to show oh legend

1289
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: Andrea Martin work, which I need everyone to know that

1290
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: I can't do. So it was more like I was like,

1291
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: I was like more of a booty pop however free

1292
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: you want to be. But it was so crazy, and

1293
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: she was like she was like okay, okay, you know

1294
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: she takes it all seriously right, like she's gonna be like, okay,

1295
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: how do I do this? And that was like both

1296
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: of you, both of you went above and beyond in

1297
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: that scenario, because that's the situations that were that well,

1298
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: shall we say, foisted upon you by circumstances, circumstance. That's insane,

1299
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: Like I would to be a fly on the wall

1300
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: for that. It was so crazy. But I was like,

1301
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: she's so like cool and down. You know, she's like, okay,

1302
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: I'll do it whatever it is. You know, she's like

1303
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: explained to me at reference or or she'll be like

1304
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, like I'm into it. Like she was just

1305
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: so game at all times. Now I have to ask

1306
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: a question, Nicole Richie, that's the question, question Mark. I

1307
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: had no idea she was even an actress. Didn't know

1308
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: it was a thing. Again, apparently everyone tells me she's

1309
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: great on the show. She's wonderful. I'm gonna say something

1310
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: that is you might in advance when I edited out

1311
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: I auditioned for the Nicole Richie is so funny? Why not?

1312
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: But again no callbacks. It's fine, but no, she is

1313
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: first of all super fucking nice and regular, which I

1314
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: think you never at least me, I never expect whenever

1315
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 1: someone like grows up in kind of famous life that

1316
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: you just assume like, okay, you're not connected to reality.

1317
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: Super nice, really funny, always nailed it, you know, and

1318
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: also such there's such a for that character. There's such

1319
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: a clear cadence, right, so you can kind of you know,

1320
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to writing that character. It's actually not easy,

1321
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: but kind of easier because you know what her thing

1322
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: is going to be. It's that tone, you know what

1323
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean? Now? Was the performance that she gives us

1324
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: a different than the take that you had on it?

1325
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: Like super different completely? Yeah, I only sent ale Richie.

1326
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: We take a job, we take it hugely. The beauty

1327
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: of acting, that's the beauteo of acting. It's about choices,

1328
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: taking choices, like making choices and what you can bring

1329
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: as a Nicole Richie. Do you like to audition? I

1330
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: don't like Auditioney Mile like working here. Naomi and Naomi

1331
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: extended a beautiful invitation for pilot season stuff. Next time

1332
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: we're in l A. Hopefully maybe it'll be that's beautiful.

1333
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean I will be put up for the same part.

1334
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 1: We're hoping it will be quicky, bespectacled, other spectacle, quirky, bespectacled,

1335
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: other types. I get officious and well dressed assistant. And

1336
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: we know what officious and well dressed me. It means gay.

1337
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: Listeners of last stories, that's it means gay, fastidious. That's

1338
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: a good words. Sassy. And actually someone actually said this

1339
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 1: to me recently about the words sassy, because I thought

1340
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: like sassy was a word like that gay people could

1341
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: get piste off from being described as and now also

1342
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: like black women being described as sassie. I talked to

1343
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: a white woman recently who was like, I hate the

1344
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: word sassy. I feel like it's meant to target black women.

1345
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, white women. I think it's

1346
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's to say overweight. That's

1347
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: so funny. I never thought of sass, but you know

1348
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: what I think it is. I think it's just that

1349
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: everyone universally hates the words sassy, and no one wants

1350
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: to be called sassy. Because I think sassy. We actually

1351
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 1: threw it in the troubles and I don't think so. Honey, topic,

1352
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: somebody pulled the word sassy, but I think sassy means annoying,

1353
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: like me, it means like too much, right, And I

1354
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: don't think anyone's taking the words sassy. And it's like

1355
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little sassy. No one's exactly. No one's ever

1356
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: self described assassy. No one. If you do get at it,

1357
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: it's like you're not to be trusted. If you describe

1358
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: yourself as sassy. You're gonna steal my identity. Believe it.

1359
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: And imagine, imagine telling a straight man you're sassy. They

1360
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it well either. They'd be like, what the reason?

1361
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: The reason they wouldn't take it well? Because of all

1362
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: the weight that it carries with like mostly like the

1363
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: way it's been hurdled at black women. Right. I just think, Yeah,

1364
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: the reason we don't like it, it's the same reason

1365
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: you wouldn't like it. It was the name of a

1366
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: teen magazine then tells you who's sassy. It's literally sassy.

1367
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: I only want to hear it in one way, and

1368
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: it's as the cat that Sally Field plays and homeward bound.

1369
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: Her name is Sassy, and I think it's fine, right,

1370
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,839
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the name of a horse and

1371
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: roys horse only a horse. He has a horse named Sassy.

1372
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: He rode to the balls on his horse names. You

1373
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: had to follow the whole but the whole cycle, Honney,

1374
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: I did not know he had a horse named Sassy.

1375
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: Everyone that's too. Everyone's tweets that night were like, we

1376
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: hope Sassy is you know, survives or Sassy already got

1377
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: her on account. Sassy got more followers in all of

1378
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: us combined. You know, Sassy's doing well. I hope Sassy

1379
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: is doing well. Sassy's doing great. Is the horse? This

1380
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: is maybe going to offend some sensitive viewers of Lost.

1381
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean I always do that always because podcasts are

1382
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 1: visual medium. Is it true, the thing of horses getting

1383
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: made to glue? Yeah? I mean is it? What is it?

1384
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: The hooves? It's like the com well, what does it

1385
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: tell us? Because it's it's mostly like beef and sheep

1386
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: and other animals that are raised for me by process,

1387
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: every part of the animal they used. The hoose that's

1388
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: horrible and like the Elmer's glue cow is like literally

1389
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: because it's like it's no what materials? Why is gelatine?

1390
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: And marshmallows? Oh as a as this thickening agent. I

1391
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: would say, of course I get the purpose, but I

1392
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: think that we have so much technology and so many

1393
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: advances that you're gonna take a little tree on top

1394
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: of a cocoa and put animal bones in. Gotta be

1395
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: an easier way. I don't think, so, honey, I don't

1396
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so honey, Marshmallows that have

1397
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: you know what? This is a perfect segue, and I

1398
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Well, this is flown by, this

1399
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: flown by. I could keep doing this Ford but and

1400
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the real gag is that we

1401
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: have never heard and I don't think so honey from Naomi.

1402
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: I feel that this is what you were made to do.

1403
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: And we've had three live shows. Now now are you

1404
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: in New York now for the Foreseeable Future at seven

1405
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: pm at at nerd Melts. But this is historic, this

1406
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: is Naomi's first I'm like, I'm like nervous because it's

1407
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't think so honey about most things,

1408
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: and so it's almost like, what is the thing, Oh,

1409
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: you have your pick. I feel like it's going to

1410
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: be divisive, but I think every good I don't think

1411
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: So Honey should be the ones that get people talking,

1412
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: the ones that people remember. I will say this, Um,

1413
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: we've been fielding a lot of requests lately to come

1414
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: to California and do it. I don't think So Honey

1415
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: Live show now. I don't know if we're ready to

1416
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: announce anything yet, but I think we are ready to

1417
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 1: tease that maybe we will be coming to California this summer.

1418
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: And that's all we're gonna say about that. We would

1419
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: love to come out sooner, but maybe Northern California can

1420
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: look forward to us being out there. She's getting more species.

1421
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: Maybe come June July. Okay, Northern California. That's for you,

1422
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 1: My my people lucked up in Alcatraz. A dog whistle.

1423
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: That's the scream that I'm just I'm just saying, I

1424
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 1: love a good tease. I love I love good It's

1425
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: just like I love how you always hear it here first,

1426
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I love it. It's like

1427
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: it is a it's a whisper campaign. The trades, we beat,

1428
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: the trades to us we break we break things here

1429
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't believe. Now, I actually want to break

1430
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,879
Speaker 1: from tradition and have Bowen go first. If that's okay,

1431
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: not tradition. I feel like this is pretty common. I

1432
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: feel like I regularly go first. I feel I regularly

1433
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: go first. Well, um, okay, I have I have a

1434
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: I have a specific one, and I'm all right. So

1435
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: this is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey, and

1436
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: his time will begin now. I don't think so, honey.

1437
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: The highways leading from New York City to New Rochelle,

1438
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: but I had to travail the perilous highways and there

1439
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: were three close calls this morning, Honey. I had a

1440
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: five am call. Bitch. I was on set. And I

1441
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: get to say this work because I was putting myself

1442
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 1: out there for the for the arts, for to contribute

1443
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: to entertainments. And I was doing the noble thing of

1444
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: going to set early in the morning and being driven

1445
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: by a van that met me in Union Square at

1446
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: five in the morning. And the driver, God blessed him, Michael.

1447
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: He was great and he was also he was also

1448
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: a p a on set. He drove the best he could,

1449
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: but the roads were icy and the highways. The sign

1450
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: the signage is trash, honey, So New Rochelle get your

1451
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: municipal board or whatever the fuck to fix this, because

1452
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: this is the lives are at steak. I don't think so, honey.

1453
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: The highways leading to New roach out. That's one minute.

1454
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: You know what, I committed to it. It's specific, No,

1455
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: it was wonderful of it. And then we get a

1456
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: glimpse into your life as an actor who wakes up early,

1457
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: called times, all times, and that's part of my life.

1458
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Make it manifest, um,

1459
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: But residents of New Rochelle, it's a lovely township. Township.

1460
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: Township is a town, not only ship, lovely hamlet ship.

1461
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 1: But I want I want real change to be affected.

1462
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: Oprah is inspiring me. I might not have the same

1463
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: power or the same the same audience but the same range,

1464
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: but I can make a change. Okay, I'm sure. Okay,

1465
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: if you're the comptroller of New Rochelle, contact the controller.

1466
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: I bet her name is Sheila. I bet she's I

1467
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: bet she's powerful, but she's not doing enough. Okay. I

1468
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: hope it's a woman named Daniel. Daniel. Um, oh my god,

1469
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: I have I have um wait, did I just fucking

1470
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: forget it? No? I didn't. I didn't even have it.

1471
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: So because I was rotating between three, I'll tell you

1472
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: that was gonna do. I was gonna do. I don't

1473
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: think so, honey, Dark Shadows, whatever would have been great

1474
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: because you've gotten the title round. I was gonna say,

1475
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. You have to wake up

1476
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: so early in the morning to watch the Oscar nominations

1477
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: for US, It's okay, And so I've settled on a

1478
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 1: third one and I'm ready. Okay, So this is Matt Rodgers.

1479
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, and his time starts now,

1480
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. When there's a major nomination

1481
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 1: announcement and it's so hard to find the fucking full list, honey,

1482
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: why is it so freaking hard to find the pdf

1483
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: with all the nominations? Bitch? How come when I was

1484
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: voting today for SAG, I had to search. I had

1485
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: to proverbially wade through the waters to find out who

1486
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: was actually nominated for these movies. I went to the

1487
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: SAG website, Honey, Screen Actuals Guild dot com. That is

1488
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 1: not what it is, but it but it probably is

1489
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: I went there and I literally had to wade through.

1490
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. It's so hard. You can't google

1491
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: search SAG nominations because then you get everyone's fucking take. Ever,

1492
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear fucking uh Laurie Metcalf's reacts

1493
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: to her fucking Austin Film Critics Award. I want to

1494
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: know who's nominated. Also, I don't think so, honey, when

1495
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: the Screen act is guilt nominations come out and they

1496
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: don't nominate the whole cast Get Out Betty Gabriel does

1497
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: not benefit from them winning if they win. And meanwhile,

1498
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: that is the definition of an ensemble moment. I don't

1499
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Screen Actress Guild nominations. Why he's hard

1500
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: to find? Why are you so weird? And well, listen,

1501
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: it's that my I don't think so. Money was one thing,

1502
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: but I am shocked and dismayed to find out that

1503
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: you don't benefit from a cast being nominated at the

1504
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: Screen Actress Guild for the ensemble unless you are on

1505
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: your own title card. Yes, if you share a title

1506
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: carpet someone else. Therefore, in the cast of in the

1507
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: cast of Get Out, Little Roll does not get a

1508
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: nomination and he's a huge part of them. He's the

1509
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: definition of a supporting actor. And Betty Gabriel does not

1510
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: get a nomination. If they win, they don't win. Her

1511
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: moment in that movie that no no, no, no, no

1512
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: no no, being able, like that's that's what I mean

1513
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 1: by an athlete, so of an actor, you know what

1514
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean? Like that is crazy, like to having the

1515
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: script silently, she breaks down but says and keeps her

1516
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: tone of voice in one way, that's like fucking crazy.

1517
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 1: And the fact that I go to the Screen Actress

1518
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: Guild and they get a nomination and this is the

1519
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: word's body that literally fucking orange. The New Black winds oranges,

1520
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: The New Black wins. Hundreds of people are on stage,

1521
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: but get out. You're not even nominating people who are

1522
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 1: major turning the script. Yeah, yeah, it's weird, it's bizarre.

1523
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: It's a stupid rule, right, I really quickly, I want

1524
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: to say, because Mike was watching it out my roomment

1525
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: was watching it out last night too, and the part

1526
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: where Betty is in the car with him and wakes

1527
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: up and I didn't realize. But the thing she says

1528
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: is you ruined my house. Yeah, not not like you

1529
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: killed my family. It was like, oh, like the grandma

1530
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: is such a shitty or something like she doesn't care

1531
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: about her friend the house because you know that she's

1532
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: been like I've had to front as the housekeeper. Like

1533
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't not out there chopping the woods were still

1534
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: doing the work. Yeah right, but they had the bodies. Listen,

1535
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: I have the biden to do medial tasks. I mean,

1536
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: I want to do menial tasks. You're right, You're right here.

1537
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: It's a hole in the script, Jordan. I have bombs

1538
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: more qualms than I thought. But I'm happy I said that.

1539
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: That's a real I don't think so, honey, of my

1540
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: life and you wanted the pdf, honey, okay, great. I

1541
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I like I was, you know, I was

1542
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: like preparing emotionally, and then last week we're supposed to

1543
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: meet during the bomb side clone like and so now

1544
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know what I have today.

1545
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: We can we can give you. We can give you

1546
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: all the time you need if you wanted to stall

1547
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think you will, you will.

1548
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: What would what would you do if you had to

1549
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: stall right now? What would you say? I say, bless

1550
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: your heart. There is not someone I and whom I

1551
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: believe in more than nakes. That's how I feel like

1552
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: I was in since giving her a moment to think,

1553
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: and you've so you've ad now you've now taken focus,

1554
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: and I've put her I've heard putting putting pressure on her.

1555
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: I think, so honey. I think I haven't. I don't

1556
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: think so honey. I don't think so honey. Her time

1557
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so honey. There being one

1558
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: black woman who's supposed to do everything. Honey. We don't

1559
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: decided Ophs a goddamn mochel, even step Men happy Chi,

1560
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: even Gail paid, and you want her to be president.

1561
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Let her sit down. Okay,

1562
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: we have to stop making it be like if you

1563
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 1: are a black woman, you gotta get to be a

1564
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: hundred and t and then you got to be everything

1565
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: for everybody. I don't think so honey. To people who

1566
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:02,839
Speaker 1: are now saying Oprah Beyonce, I don't think so honey. Okay,

1567
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: you look at a record and be angry your man

1568
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: for cheating that on me. You can deal with some

1569
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: foreign policy. I don't think so honey. Deciding that if

1570
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: you have excellence in one arena, you get excellence in

1571
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: all the arenas. I don't think so honey to not

1572
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: letting more people at the table, Yes, Suny, last three seconds,

1573
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I don't think so honey to y'all

1574
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: losing y'all. Damn mind Oprah wearing glasses and that's one minute.

1575
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: How doesn't she always wearing glasses? And she goes on Joey.

1576
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: That was one for the books because it was true.

1577
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: It talked about what was happening in the culture, absolutely,

1578
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: but also just expanded broadly beyond that about what the

1579
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: way people think because it's it's always yet another day

1580
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: in America and the black a black woman does all

1581
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: the work. It's it's just my friend. I will say

1582
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: this though, Um, like it was crazy that the two

1583
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: speeches people have lost their minds about were Michelle Obama

1584
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: and then oh I just like within like two years

1585
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: of each other, and just the expectation that was foisted

1586
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: upon them. Well, it's after merely giving a speech and

1587
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: doing well, which you want to do, Like the goal

1588
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: wasn't to go out there and like perform at a

1589
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: six and throw the speech and be like I don't

1590
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: want I don't want them to want me to run

1591
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't want them to because you would

1592
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 1: think it's like, Okay, I have a degree, I've been

1593
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: on television for over twenty years. I know how to

1594
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: speak and use words. And you actually put them all together,

1595
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: had a couple of good hand motions, and you said,

1596
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 1: run this word. Let the woman rest, honey, I want

1597
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: to at the end of that, don't make her president.

1598
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: Let her take off her spad. Yes, she looked amazing.

1599
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: Thing that sucks is now it's like immediately because of

1600
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: the culture that we're in right now, it's like the

1601
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: backlash I started against Oprah. It's like she didn't do

1602
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: any and the fact that sometimes that's what makes me

1603
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: worry about like next election. It's like we're all over

1604
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: here like argument she should be president, she shouldn't be president.

1605
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 1: You shouldn't think that about her. It becomes such a fight.

1606
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile, like the Nazis are storming, and it's

1607
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: kind of like it's like a name, you know what

1608
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it's like what do you get

1609
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: out him calling? People were posting this thing of like

1610
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: this headline of like Oprah is actually a neoliberal capitalist machine.

1611
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, like, let target on her

1612
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: back in a way that I hate. Now, you know,

1613
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: you have Trump like saying something, Yeah, well he hasn't

1614
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: tweeted about oh, and I think that says something to

1615
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: her power. Well, he actually has tweeted in the past

1616
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: that he adores Oprah and in fact, one time he

1617
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: even said he would consider her as a running in

1618
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: the nineties when he was still like writing, like joking,

1619
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: like right, So I think he actually maybe hasn't said

1620
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: anything because there is some actual fear there. And I

1621
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: say that not to stoke the flames of everyone who

1622
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: really wants to run for president, because I think it's

1623
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: not We have to also think about what she wants people.

1624
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: She's a person. She's living a life, dott Have you

1625
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: seen the freaking taco party. That's a full time job

1626
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: right there. It's like, let's get another Legends ball together.

1627
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: Let's put that on the top of the list. The

1628
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: amount of vegetable she picks in one go is picture

1629
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: but she has to hold them up to the cameras, honey,

1630
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: And that is a feat. That's a physical feast. Oh

1631
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: my god. Okay, well that was beautiful. That was amazing.

1632
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean we hit on the culture. We had on

1633
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: the culture, and this is oh, this is topical culture.

1634
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: This was one of the most topical episodes, one of

1635
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: the best episodes with one of the best guests. And

1636
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: that's how you get when you have a cable queen Cable,

1637
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: queen Cable, Queen's baby, and you remain a cable queen

1638
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: to this day. Naturally, Yes, but she writes for network, right.

1639
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I was deciding I just got

1640
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Verizon five else um, and I was deciding whether I

1641
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 1: was going to get cable, like big time cable, and

1642
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get it. You gotta have it.

1643
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: It's your job. I'm young, I'm interested. You have to

1644
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: be part of culture. You know what I need? Bravo Naturally,

1645
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: do you watch housewives? You know I don't do housewives

1646
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 1: because did I until last week? No? You and now

1647
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: you're indeed listened to Erika Jane on the way here.

1648
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: I listen to her music. What is that New York

1649
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: or Beverly Hills. Okay, the houses I watched New York

1650
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: and Beverly Hills, those are the two I think you need.

1651
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean money. Can't Buy Your Class is one of

1652
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: the greatest songs of our time, So like that. I know.

1653
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Unfortunately it will be some time before new music from

1654
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: the Countess. I know she's going through some man. Yeah,

1655
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: we talked about that last week. I'm full. Listen just

1656
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: one more time. Check out the Comedy Central half Hour's

1657
01:30:53,720 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Dream Great News, and especially episode twelve Writer coming in

1658
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: two weeks. Baby, come on in Los Angeles, Queens. You

1659
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: gotta check out Couples Therapy. It's this Saturday, seven pm

1660
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Baby at Nerd melt Where's Nerd Melts.

1661
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: It's on sun Sunset Boulevard, West Hollywood, co hosted by

1662
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: Andy Yes, come on you guys. Here's the deal. We

1663
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: don't just leave God waited in the water, wait in

1664
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: the wait Bye. This has been a Forever Dog production

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