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Speaker 3: And today I have Joshua Reddick and I have Mike Peyton.

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Speaker 3: Mike is former Navy seal and josh is a US

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Speaker 3: and Mike. Let's go with Mike first. Mike, Welcome to

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Speaker 4: Hey, what's up really? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hey? Welcome back? Welcome back? So maybe Seals?

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Speaker 4: Which rabbit hole would you like to go down?

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Speaker 2: So? Which what did you do?

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Speaker 5: Almost twenty two years and the seal teams are retired

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Speaker 5: in December of twenty one, I spent time. I started

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Speaker 5: of group two. So or at the group level, and yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean in my career, I was a lead breacher.

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Speaker 5: I went into the Intel arena, I was a team

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so Senior Chief petty officer, is that correct

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Speaker 3: As a lead breacher, and my understanding is that the

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Speaker 3: a rake or what. Tell me what a lead breacher do.

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Speaker 5: We have everybody else caring the tools and we just

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Speaker 4: But I mean we carry like primary.

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Speaker 5: Explosives, secondary charges in the shotgun and like that. Those

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Speaker 5: We're going exothermic or whatever like that, lead breacher will

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Speaker 5: Like a torch or yeah, you could go thermite if

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Speaker 5: So lead breacher's responsibility is to get through an entry

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Speaker 4: Maybe turn this over to whomever else and go that direction.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we do wall charges and teaching the guys

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Speaker 3: So you know, today's video game kid playing all these things.

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Speaker 3: That's how I know thermite personally, right, I've grown up.

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Speaker 3: These video games they got thermite in them. Kids are

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Speaker 5: My son plays those games, so like I'm well aware

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and so it's like you know we're talking

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Speaker 2: What is that again? Is that thermite? And some dudes

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Speaker 3: I think they use thermite to repair railroad ties, like

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Speaker 3: The cool toys that dev grew and Seal Team guys

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Speaker 4: It's R and D.

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Speaker 5: So you're researching and developing certain a weapon system or what,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: They're R and D and there and then it's coming

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they just and then whatever that first

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Speaker 4: So, but they're the R and D, T and E

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Speaker 3: Right, and dev grew dev grew would and not to

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Speaker 5: man and which is its own little animal? Really interesting

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Speaker 3: You know, Virginia Beach has a lot of cool trees

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: As I'm driving along there and I'm like, dang, they

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Speaker 3: I want to do war games because I do war

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Speaker 3: Zia's I get that, but we still like the terrain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, So let me let me segue over to

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Speaker 3: your partner here. I believe he is the chairperson for

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Speaker 3: try task purpose. Say it like I mean it, Okay,

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Speaker 3: And this is Josh Reddick, us army veteran twenty three years.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere in there. I think there's a commander title, but

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Josh, and talk to us. Tell

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me on RAD.

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Speaker 7: So, like you said, twenty three years, started off as

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Speaker 7: switched over to civil affairs about three years ago, and

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Speaker 7: got connected by the way, my history, my time in

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Speaker 7: the military nowhere nearly nowhere near his pool is Mike's.

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Speaker 7: Mike's got all the fun stuff. I just kind of

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Speaker 7: and I used to run cross country together in high school,

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Speaker 7: All the way in Arizona, listen to your show and

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Speaker 7: hear Mike Paine's voice on the show. Now, the cool

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Speaker 6: And that's how we got connected. But it was through

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Speaker 2: It's all about just the one person that listens. You know.

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Speaker 3: She's always listening, and so that that DJ needs to

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Speaker 3: about tribe, task and purpose. This message is to you,

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Speaker 4: Is awesome, man.

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Speaker 5: And I can't even I can't express like how thankful

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Speaker 5: I am with Josh and what he's done for the organization.

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Speaker 3: you're having, Mike, tell us about why you felt the

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Speaker 3: need to team up with Josh to push tribe task

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Speaker 3: purpose to this level. What's what was going on in

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Speaker 3: And that's a deal, right, because some people may feel

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Speaker 3: Right, it's good to have a subject matter expert over

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Speaker 5: Or if it's smart recovery that they want to do

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Speaker 3: But the operator syndrome, I mean, that's a you know,

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Speaker 5: And so what we're doing is like we're nicheing it

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's like what you've dealt with is

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Speaker 3: yourself and you figure out what it is that's causing

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00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 3: you to want to do that, and that's where you

439
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 3: have to start fixing yourself.

440
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm just.

441
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 4: And so that's that's exactly right.

442
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 5: But it first comes with an awareness and a personal

443
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 5: awareness like I'm all jacked up. I need help, you know,

444
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 5: and I can't do it alone. And that's what we're here.

445
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 5: We don't throw stones, man, And not only do we

446
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 5: fully fund the program, like the individuals that come here,

447
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 5: like they don't pay a penny, Like we completely cover

448
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 5: them number one, number two, like we're there for them.

449
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,360
Speaker 4: Number three, Like.

450
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 5: We don't share their information with the commands if they're

451
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 5: coming from a command, like that's hip A violations and

452
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 5: we protect We protect that exclusively or entirely. Like you

453
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 5: want their their stuff, fine, but you're gonna have to

454
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 5: get a court order then because we're not giving it away.

455
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: They'll have to tell you themselves.

456
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 3: Right, it's like what they want to tell you, they

457
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 3: could tell you, but otherwise yeacause that's.

458
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 2: So said my listener, your your future help who you're

459
00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: going to help here?

460
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: How do they come to Tribe Task Purpose? Like, you know,

461
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: we keep saying those three, those three, the three words

462
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: Tribe Task Purpose.

463
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, how do we Well, we.

464
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 4: Have a website. We got a website trib Taskpurpose dot org.

465
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 5: You can contact us via online or we have social

466
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 5: media platforms also that if you want to, you know,

467
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 5: follow us or friend us on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, that's

468
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 5: you know, we have those platforms as well. But on

469
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 5: the website itself, like that is my personal number, so

470
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 5: I'll take the call personally and that's my personal email.

471
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: So that's awesome.

472
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 3: So exactly, so Tribe Task Purpose, just go check it out.

473
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: Hit up you know, Mike, if you want to reach

474
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 3: out the internet social media, have you guys adopted the

475
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 3: new social media threads well out there taken off? Have

476
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: you guys check out on that yet? Oh it's called threads. Yeah,

477
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: it's through Instagram and through Instagram. Yeah, you should write

478
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: that down. It's blown up. Yeah, they just had seventy

479
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 3: million registered users.

480
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: In two days.

481
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I don't like to date my shows,

482
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 3: but this is when Threads just came out. So if

483
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 3: you're listening to it, go get a thread and follow

484
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: me uh.

485
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: Soft reps on there too.

486
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: But I mean really, it's like usually if you go

487
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: to your Instagram, it says, hey, we invite you to

488
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: come open your account and threads and you go there

489
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: and it's now supposed to be just like you leave

490
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: a couple of blurbs of what you want to say

491
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: and a photo and attachment and it's just real simple.

492
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 2: That's it.

493
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: And it's just you know, another another avenue for you

494
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: to reach somebody, right, it just takes That's it.

495
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm just throwing it out there. And if

496
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: you're not on Threads, hit me up Instagram or all

497
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: that stuff too, and I'm out there. Yeah yeah, no

498
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: for sure.

499
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: But again with trib task purpose, is there anything in

500
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: there with like recreational therapy for these guys?

501
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to say that I'm for it

502
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 5: and I'm not against it either. In my theory is this,

503
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 5: we don't want to substitute one edition for another. However,

504
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 5: there's always positive feedback loops and and with positive.

505
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: Snowboarding. That's I want to make sure you know what

506
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: I mean. I mean.

507
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: Size recreational like you know other as I'm not trying

508
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: to go down any I'm saying, like rock climbing, like

509
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: being with nature.

510
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: Oh got it?

511
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: That kind of a recreational therapy that got that the

512
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 3: VA doesn't seem to give us. You have to be

513
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: like eighty ninety percent rated to get recreational therapy at

514
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: the VA. Right, So here we have veterans who are

515
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: dealing with substances and they would like to not get

516
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: They would rather have thrills before pills because what do

517
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: you call it? Operator syndrome? These guys are all high

518
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: speed high IQ. You're doing two days, you're like working out,

519
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: trying to keep your mind free and clear. Why can't

520
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 3: the VA prescribe weight systems for us or like you know,

521
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: here's here's a snowboard prescription. Go to rat Snowboard shop

522
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: and get a snowboard.

523
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 5: One hundred percent on board with what you're saying, And yeah,

524
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 5: I mean, we don't have that internal. But what we

525
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 5: do is one of our modalities is getting on the

526
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 5: farm for a week and just working with our hands again,

527
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 5: you know, like that's so important that people lose it,

528
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 5: that they lose that with you know, the job requirements

529
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: and all that. You know that I get it, like

530
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 5: understand that, but we have to reset and that's one

531
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 5: of the modalities that we utilize. Another one is working

532
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 5: with our hands, you know, just forming still into blades,

533
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: you know, stuff like that. So that's another modality that

534
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 5: we use. And that's another week long within the first phase.

535
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: Like working with some earth and just making it into

536
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 3: something and just like creating it out of you know,

537
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: out of your own heart and passion and your own energy.

538
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: It's like people who go and get their own food, right.

539
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: I may be I may live a vegetarian lifestyle and

540
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: try for that, But those guys that go out and

541
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: hunt a deer, I got respect for that too, because

542
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: they're bringing it home, they're doing the whole work, they're

543
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 3: dressing it, they're doing everything to that.

544
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 2: I got no problem with where they want to get

545
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: their food. They got no problem with where I want

546
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 2: to get my food. Kind of attitude. Right, we just

547
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: live in this world, It's true. Yeah. Plus I talked

548
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: some pretty hardfol hunters bro. Oh yeah, like you.

549
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 4: They're out here.

550
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: Dead Drew hunting one oh one.

551
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely man, And well, yeah, it's all about tracking, right

552
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 5: and it's all, yeah, we're going on rabbit holes.

553
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 4: But uh I love one team.

554
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: The way, are we though? Are we?

555
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 3: That's what we're all about here, bro, this is what

556
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: trib tasking purposes.

557
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: Man.

558
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: It's like, let's let's just pull our guys in and say, hey,

559
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: let's go get off topic at try tasking purposes and

560
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 3: figure ourselves out with these.

561
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 5: That's what we do, man, We're figuring it out with them.

562
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 5: And so that's the biggest thing. It's just we're there

563
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 5: with them, like we I've got We've gone through it.

564
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 5: So like let's like I was the guinea pig to

565
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 5: this this program, and that's where you know, it was

566
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 5: a very clunky thing at first because I was trying

567
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 5: to figure it out. But the guys when they come

568
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 5: back to me after let's say, all the guys so

569
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 5: far minus one has you know, we have an eighty

570
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 5: percent success rate within the first year of relapse. Like

571
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 5: the conventional models there's a ninety percent relapse within the

572
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 5: first year. We have an eighty percent success rate within

573
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 5: the first year. So we just flipped it upside down

574
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 5: on its head. And you know, to me, that's a

575
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 5: victory because it's all these individuals. They come back to

576
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 5: me like, dude, I don't know how you figure this out, man,

577
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 5: but thank you. I haven't felt this good in years, Like,

578
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: thank you so much. I'm like, dude, Like, it's not me, man,

579
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: it's everybody. We're doing it all together as a tribe,

580
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 5: you know, and as it should be. And I you know,

581
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 5: I won't claim fame or I'll own the mistakes, but

582
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 5: I won't claim the success of it because it's not

583
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 5: on me entirely. It's the whole entire team. Josh being

584
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: one person of the team as well, and I couldn't

585
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: do it without him. And you know, within the first

586
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 5: year we've already raised over one hundred thousand dollars to

587
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 5: get people through the programs.

588
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: I mean that's you know.

589
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 5: As a startup, that's like that's divine, you know, that's

590
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 5: that's like a providence.

591
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: And you're open to more, right, You're willing to have

592
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: people philanthropy more towards your organization too. So if there's

593
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: a listener out there that's like, hey, you know, I've

594
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: got to put something somewhere. I think this is a

595
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: good organization. They can reach out to you and learn more,

596
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 3: and if they want to put their money there, then

597
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: so be it.

598
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: Right yep.

599
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know we're actually fixing. We're healing people. Man,

600
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 5: We're not putting bannies on woms. You know, we're actually

601
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 5: healing them. And that's you know, that's the difference.

602
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: I think even the and the guy that goes through, like, uh,

603
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: the guy you know that goes through, you know, a

604
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: year of no alcohol and then relapses. You know, there's

605
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: a year of a break of clarity in there that

606
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: you know, that moment even is just a strong, powerful

607
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: thing for that person because who knows what had happened

608
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: in the year of unsurprised of just like being wasted.

609
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, you try hard. You know, nobody's personally.

610
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: No, dude, I don't throw stones, man, he could relapse.

611
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't.

612
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: I don't throw stones in glass. That's exactly right, because.

613
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I could exactly right.

614
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: Drop off the bus.

615
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 5: You know, like, I have to be accountable to something else, man,

616
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: something bigger than me. Otherwise, you know, I have that

617
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: potential and like, is it my kryptonite shirt?

618
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: Own it? I own it.

619
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 5: And I'm like Roger that I can't drink so fine,

620
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.

621
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: You know it is what it is, right exactly.

622
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: And and and someone listening right now who may never

623
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: even have come through your organization and never even went

624
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: through an organization, tried to kick it themselves. You know

625
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: that's right. You're strong. You can do it. I want

626
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: you to know you can do it, and you can

627
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: kick it. You know, if I could kick cigarettes after

628
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: so long of smoking cigarettes, it's been seventeen years of

629
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: mere smoking a cigarette.

630
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: Eighteen years. Yeah, And to this day, if.

631
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: I get a whiff of a Marlborough, it goes right

632
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: back to Malty Crew Metallica.

633
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, where's that at, dude. I'm like, let's go

634
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: do seventh grade all over again, bro.

635
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: Basement of Robbie's house parents ashtray full of our cigarette butts.

636
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: Dude, It's like, what are we doing? Man?

637
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: But back then they put that stuff so accessible to

638
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: us as youth. It was just right on the counters

639
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: at the circle k, swiping the people swiping packs of.

640
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: Non filtered camp What are you doing? Bro? We're adults,

641
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: is what we're thinking. We're cool.

642
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, nah ah no, that's it. Man is targeting an

643
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: audience for profits, right. And it's funny because it's so

644
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 5: funny that you bring it up because when I was

645
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: doing business school at Harvard and like one of the

646
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 5: case studies was the Jewel Car case study to where

647
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 5: they're targeting the youth to get addicted to their product,

648
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: and so it came into the legal, ethic and economic

649
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: piece of the Venn diagram. It's like, where do they

650
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 5: fall in because at the time, it wasn't illegal for

651
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 5: them to target that age group, or you know, it

652
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 5: was just unethical. Well billions of dollars later in lawsuits,

653
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: you have to stay within the parameters of ethical or

654
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 5: not having ethical violations.

655
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: That's the conclusion of the case study.

656
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

657
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they said, you got to get rid of Camel Joe,

658
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: you got to get rid of the Marlboro Man. You

659
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: got to get rid of you know, the fancy chick

660
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: with the more cigarette on the back of the magazine.

661
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: You know, the MoMA right, Okay, with the long breast.

662
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean those things are all advertised to us like, oh,

663
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: we need to do it. But what's at the end

664
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: of it, it's somebody's profits. They're profiting off of our

665
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: of addiction.

666
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one hundred percent, right, And so all they

667
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: care about is their bottom line and who's going to

668
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 5: buy the most amount of their product. And so that's

669
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 5: why they target. It's a marketing scheme, So it is

670
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 5: what it is. But now they're want again, they're paying

671
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 5: billions of dollars in lawsuits. Well, you shouldn't have targeted

672
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 5: that audience or that demographic. And that's where you know,

673
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: with us, you know, we're not like we have a demographic,

674
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 5: but we're actually on the other side of it where

675
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: like we're healing people, we're not trying to make a

676
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 5: profit off of their failment, you know.

677
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: Or now, Mike, with with with what we're talking about,

678
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of other addictions other than just like alcoholism.

679
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: Is there other opportunities for them to come and open

680
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: up about these other addictions that they're dealing with with

681
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: your organization right now?

682
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: It's chemical dependency, So it's opioids and I'll call being

683
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: the primary ones and man, I'll tell you their sons

684
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 5: of bitches.

685
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: Man, they're hard to manage.

686
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 5: So that's why it's like, yeah, we'll focus exclusively on

687
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 5: that right now until yeah, until we get a campus

688
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: or infrastructure, our own brick and mortar. So where now

689
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: we can start, you know, taper or we can start

690
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 5: going off these little tangents of different arenas of addiction.

691
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: But right now we're just focused on those chemical.

692
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Ones, chemical dependency and uh style and so, Josh, how

693
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: do you feel now that you've been with these guys?

694
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: What about a year now?

695
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, fair person, just over a year. No, it's a

696
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 6: great program.

697
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 7: And you know something I want to touch on that

698
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 7: you brought up about listeners in the audience that don't

699
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 7: necessarily need treatment but want to give back. I mean,

700
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 7: the first word in our name is tribe because it

701
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 7: does it takes a whole tribe. So it's not just

702
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 7: it can be financial. I mean, Mike is big on

703
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 7: the three t's, time, treasure, and talents. If anyone in

704
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 7: the audience has time, treasure or talents they'd like to

705
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 7: donate to the organization, we're we would love to have it.

706
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 7: You know, as Mike pointed out, we raised one hundred

707
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 7: thousand dollars in the first year, but we like to

708
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 7: do more. There's a lot of people that need help,

709
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 7: but you know, we need a community to help us

710
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 7: do that. So right now, one of our biggest initiatives

711
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 7: is just that, trying to recruit good talent, trying to

712
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 7: raise funds, and finding people that really can put.

713
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 6: The time in to make this work.

714
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 7: The other thing I wanted to touch on, you guys

715
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 7: are talked about the treatment style. I've been in in

716
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 7: medicine for twenty three years and I've been working in

717
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 7: pay management for sixteen of.

718
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 6: Those years, and it's interesting.

719
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 7: Most programs are set up in a way, and you

720
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 7: guys talk about corruption, addiction, what reimburses the best by

721
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 7: the government. The government ultimately dictates what treatments doctors do. Right,

722
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 7: everything about TTP is different. It's thinking outside the box.

723
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 7: But what I love about it, it's not putting pressure

724
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 7: on a wound, it's not putting a band aid, it's

725
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 7: trying to tourniquit.

726
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 6: And that's what we're trying to do is reset the

727
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: whole person.

728
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 7: Let's get to the root of the problem and then

729
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 7: treat that right there so that they can deal with

730
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 7: their addiction or their triggers later on in life.

731
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: Yep, that's very cool, right, Like some people don't need

732
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: to put themselves in. They might have, you know, not

733
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: the ability to go into a place to be you know,

734
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: take they have to still work or function. There are

735
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: functioning dare I say alcoholics out there that just get

736
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: through life and can just manage themselves. There's functional all

737
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: sorts of chemical dependency functioning yep, productive, yep. May not

738
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: even think it's a problem, yeah, because they're like, I'm

739
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: doing good, man. I don't know why I'm so hyper

740
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: all the time and my heart rates out the roof,

741
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: but I'm doing really good.

742
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

743
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, you know, you look in.

744
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: The mirror and you feel tired, and you feel like

745
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: you've just done it too much. And that's how I

746
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: felt with cigarettes. And I'm just going to use that

747
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: as my kind of crutch of what a huge addiction

748
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: quitting was. I just one day woke up and I

749
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: didn't want to have a drag of it. I wanted

750
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: to breathe without having a cigarette in my lungs for

751
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: the morning. And then I went I said, that's how

752
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: long I can see how long I can go today

753
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: without having a smoke. But I didn't throw my smokes away.

754
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: I didn't say I'm quitting forever. I just put them

755
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: in my glove box and I left them in there

756
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: with smokes in it, and if I wanted one, I

757
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: was mad enough to say, I can have one. If

758
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: I want one, I can make my choice, and I

759
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: can also make a choice to not have one. And

760
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: so I left them in my glovebox for about two years.

761
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: Wow.

762
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: They would always open up my glove box. There's that

763
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: pack of smokes. I close it. I'd open it up.

764
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: There's that pack of smokes. I was like, it's mine.

765
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: I could do what I want with them, right, the

766
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: reason why I didn't throw them away?

767
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: And then you start building a resentment towards I have.

768
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: To go buy new ones. Yeah yeah, yeah, well I

769
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: have to give I'd have to get them. If I

770
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: had them, I can do what I want with them.

771
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: I haven't. There they are. I don't want them. I

772
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: don't need them. There, you're right there, I'm staring at you.

773
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: I don't even need you.

774
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: That's how I felt, right, you know, And so it's

775
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: like that's what kind of kicked me off. That addiction

776
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: was just I wanted to breathe free that morning.

777
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 5: It really was, you know, that's where the willingness comes

778
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 5: in of individuals where it's like, Okay, they don't want

779
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: it in their life anymore, or they at least want

780
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 5: to break from it. And that's where we give them

781
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 5: that opportunity to be like, all right, man, let's get

782
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 5: some clarity in your thought process, get out of these

783
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 5: positive feedback loops, and then make a determination after that.

784
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 5: But never make a decision under distress. Like that is

785
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: where you know a chemical dependency. You're under distress continuously

786
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 5: from the moment that you wake up until the moment

787
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 5: you go to bed at night.

788
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: Which is pitty sleep in the first place.

789
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: But the thing is is like, so not only are

790
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: you getting deprived sleep, but you're also you're not thinking clearly.

791
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: And then it becomes a compounding a negative effect or

792
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: otherwise known as a positive feedback loop. And the and

793
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 5: another thing that it does is it creates arrested psychological development.

794
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: So a person.

795
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 5: Gets stuck at the age of let's say fifteen, I'm

796
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 5: just using that as an example, but like, they get

797
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 5: stuck in this rut and they don't know how to

798
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 5: evolve or actually how to grow and develop as an individual.

799
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 5: So their EQ or their emotional intelligence is you know,

800
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: way down here because they've never had to use that muscle,

801
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 5: you know, And so their IQs might be one hundred

802
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 5: and thirty, but their eques at you know, fifty points

803
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: or whatever, and it's like, yeah, we gotta, we gotta,

804
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: we got some work to do, you know.

805
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: So no, it's not all about the chemical dependency.

806
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: That is a coping mechanism for something else, and that's

807
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: what we're trying to identify. And that's what we do

808
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 5: identify with the individuals gone through this program.

809
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 6: M Rip, have you ever read the book The Body

810
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: Keeps the Score?

811
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: No, the Body Keeps the Score? Huh.

812
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: I highly recommend it.

813
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 7: But it basically comes down to childhood trauma that creates

814
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 7: the perfect storm for addiction to happen later on in life.

815
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: Ye yep.

816
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 7: And that's what's something that you guys have kind of

817
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 7: brushed on. But a lot of Mike said, a lot

818
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 7: of operators there unique their special breed, right, they're different,

819
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 7: but there's a lot of commonalities between them, and again,

820
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 7: childhood trauma is one of those.

821
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

822
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 7: So what what it becomes though, is that addiction is

823
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 7: initially put into the operations they do right, the missions

824
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 7: they go on, but then all they're doing is giving

825
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 7: themselves more trauma. So when they don't have that anymore,

826
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 7: they have to find that outlet. Some are lucky and

827
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 7: put it into you know, the Dave Doggins of the

828
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 7: world put into extreme sports. Other ones will find alcohol, drugs,

829
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 7: whatever it is, but a lot of it. And that's

830
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 7: what Mike's scanning at is it starts in childhood. So

831
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 7: you got to cheat treat that childhood drama while putting

832
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 7: a band aid and resetting the rest of the body.

833
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: Wow.

834
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, childhood trauma's real. Yeah, no, that's true because it

835
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: could set you up. And you're right because like you know,

836
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: my dad was adopted. You know, at twelve years old,

837
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: I went to Vietnam, became a Green Beret operator.

838
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: You know.

839
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: Tough childhood, right, tough childhood one already I know his background,

840
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: so I just know it's a tough childhood. A lot

841
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: of other guys I've talked to in the same community

842
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: have come from, like Drill Sergeant. Can't hurt my feelings

843
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: because he's more of a dad than I've ever had, right,

844
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: that was me.

845
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 5: I mean, well, my dad is a great dad, but

846
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 5: he was an addict also, So I had a childhood

847
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 5: of addiction from get go. Like my mom gave me

848
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 5: a beer or wine collar when I was eight years old,

849
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 5: Like that was the first drink that I had, and

850
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 5: she was driving.

851
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: She was driving drama about laughing, James, bro.

852
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: It's all good, man, but like that so like it

853
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: is then.

854
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: Though, Bro, was that that was then? Right?

855
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: You used to be able to like not have seatbelts

856
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 3: in our cars. Yeah, yeah, that was you're forty ish.

857
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well she was drunk.

858
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 5: She was getting pulled over by the cops as me

859
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 5: and my brother and sister were drinking a wine cooler

860
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 5: and she's like time to start chucking, So we started

861
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 5: chucking them out the window. Like I still remember this,

862
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 5: but like you know, I thought, oh, that's just how

863
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 5: it is, you know, and and uh but yeah, you know,

864
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 5: that was my first exposure to all well, my first

865
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 5: like individual exposure to it. And then so at the

866
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: age of eight, man, we started the addiction or the

867
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 5: what we thought was cool and then right, but it

868
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 5: became and it always is, but it was poisonous and

869
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: we just didn't see it until I didn't see it

870
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 5: until I was about twenty five and I'm like, oh,

871
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 5: this this sucks man like and then and it was

872
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: it starts scaling bigger and bigger and big into my

873
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 5: life to the point that it got out of control.

874
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: Its bleeding into the team on you, right, it was

875
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: bleeding to you and through you.

876
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: And like, did guys ever say, you know, how'd you

877
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: make the run this morning?

878
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

879
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: Like, Uzy, do you ever say that? Yeah? Right, You're like,

880
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: how do I do this?

881
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

882
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: Well, I'm you know, at twenty, when you're in your twenties,

883
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: that's different than when you start getting into your mid

884
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: thirties and you're like, I can't keep up with the

885
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 5: with the young guy you know, and U and so

886
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 5: And it's really because of the alcohol. I think I

887
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: would have been so much better of an operator if

888
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 5: I didn't drink. And but like, if we can capture

889
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 5: these guys prior to let's say, after their first or

890
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: second platoon and just start integrating or incorporating this into

891
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 5: their lifestyle, because it becomes a lifestyle change, and we

892
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 5: can create a whole new culture within specop's community. And

893
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 5: that's the intent, is to pull out the negative and

894
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 5: then we're not trying to create boy scouts or choir

895
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 5: boys here.

896
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Oh I get it, but no, ye hundred percent.

897
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 5: We're trying to make them the best possible person that

898
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: they can be in their personal lives and their professional lives.

899
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 5: And that's the difference. Like I'm not trying to tell

900
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: a guy, hey, you know what, like I want you

901
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 5: to watch Disney Channel all day long, you know, and

902
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: like be you know, really empathetic towards you know, like, yes,

903
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 5: that is I'm not talking about Disney, but I'm talking

904
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 5: like the empathy piece, Like, yeah, that is something that

905
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 5: we need to incorporate into our personal lives. But I'm

906
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: not telling them to be something that they're not already

907
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: a part of. Or I'm not trying to reconfigure or

908
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: conform them into something that you know that I'd honestly

909
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 5: say that's not already in the ethos.

910
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 4: So all these individual communities.

911
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: We're just fancast purpose though you come into that that organization,

912
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: you guys can help sweat it out of them, Right,

913
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen.

914
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: Well, we're reinforcing just positive mechanisms and tools.

915
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 6: That's it, right, and something else there with it.

916
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 7: Mike start to touch a little about the preventative side,

917
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 7: so the big thirty thousand foot view or the big

918
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 7: big and it's eventually to get so integrated with these operators.

919
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 6: That as they see a young guy coming up that maybe.

920
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 7: Is starting to struggle with it, they can get them

921
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 7: involved early on so they don't lose years of their

922
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 7: career due to alcohol or drugs or whatever.

923
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: Right, that's it, man, That is it.

924
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: Because they're seeing some gunny or some chief or some

925
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 3: starty first class slamming back Jamison who's been going through

926
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: all the rigamaro that they're looking to go through, and

927
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: they might think that's how they have to do it too, right.

928
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 6: I think you can speak to that. I know I can.

929
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 7: It's kind of endemic in those cultures though, the alcohol

930
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 7: part of it, and that's how you decompress at the

931
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 7: end of the day.

932
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: Right, Right, because the military only allows alcohol to soldiers

933
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: and airmen and sailors and coast guardsman's to drink rather

934
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: than like you know, like recreational weed or medicinal or

935
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: but alcohol. Like I don't understand that, right because like

936
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: I see way more problems with alcohol than these other

937
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: things I'm kind of referencing. It's like you know, a

938
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: lot more like crying at your desk with something in

939
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: your hand that you probably shouldn't think in stupid thoughts,

940
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: you know, like.

941
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: Well, it's a depressant, man, and that's that's the other thing.

942
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: So now you're compounding it like exponentially because you're throwing

943
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 5: in something on top of a trauma to trying to

944
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: cope with it. But it's a depressant, are you kidding me?

945
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 5: And it's highly addictive, and the re and the when

946
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 5: you start getting off of it, when you're starting to

947
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 5: go through the detox piece of.

948
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: It, it could kill you.

949
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: Like it's like, right, you can.

950
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: Stroke scare you, Not to scare anybody trying to get

951
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: off of it. Okay, but alcoholism is a very intertwined

952
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: situation in your body, and you got to break free

953
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: of it, and not only from the psychological thing of

954
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: you know, okay, let's talk about cutting out addiction. You

955
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: got to start changing your process in life. You got

956
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: to like put the watch that you usually wear on

957
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: your left hand on your right hand, and you got

958
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: to start wearing things differently, and you got to put

959
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: things in different places so that they don't trigger you

960
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: to want to have that drink right away, because if

961
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: you look at your watch, oh it's time. But if

962
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: you have to look at your watch on this hand,

963
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's right, I don't do that no more.

964
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just rewiring, rewiring.

965
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it takes time.

966
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 4: So we're here.

967
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 5: We're here for them, We're here for We're here for

968
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: the audience. We're here for you. Right, just reach out.

969
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: Well, I love that. So you know, I've had your

970
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: time for just about fifty sixty minutes. We've been listening

971
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: to talk about tribe task purpose. You know, I've had

972
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: the great privilege to talk with Mike Payton and Joshua Reddock,

973
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: twenty three year veteran Army and Navy seal.

974
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: And we're talking.

975
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: You know, if you're just joining us, we're talking about

976
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: my merch store on software dot cop No really though,

977
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: check it. We're talking about a healthy mind, chasing your dreams,

978
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: being successful, being there for you, a tribe. I want

979
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: to be a part of this tribe. I'm here with

980
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: these guys. I want to say that I am you know,

981
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: and and we're all here and if you have questions,

982
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: you can reach us on multip pull different levels of

983
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: social media or even at tribe task purpose. I would

984
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: recommend you go check those guys out. If you're considering

985
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: trying to quit chemical dependency or you're trying to get

986
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: a grip on what you're dealing with, reach out to them.

987
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: They probably have some at least pointers and suggestions on

988
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: where you can go.

989
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: Now with that, Josh, do you have anything you want

990
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: to leave us with?

991
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: Uh?

992
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: As we wind down.

993
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 7: The last thing, I'll say again just to reiterate, guys,

994
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 7: it takes a whole tribe and we need, you know,

995
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 7: not just participants in the program, but people's time, treasure

996
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 7: and talents. And if you have if you're good at

997
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 7: social media postings it you know, for me, I I

998
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 7: donate money as a as a tax break, and you

999
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 7: know I come from a religious background as my tithe

1000
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 7: in Egosis organization. Do you have anything or if you have,

1001
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 7: you know the time to your retired military bed that

1002
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 7: wants to get back Mike and I went to retreat

1003
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago. Or there were retired Navy

1004
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 7: seals helping out and they're looking at things having to

1005
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 7: do with traumatic injuries from preachers. There's so many different

1006
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 7: ways to give back and one of the best things

1007
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 7: you can do for addiction is to get back because

1008
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 7: it takes you out of thinking about yourself and your

1009
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 7: problems and helping other people out. So it's a tribe.

1010
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 7: It really is a strong community. We wanted to get bigger,

1011
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 7: we want we wanted to help. Plus other people feel

1012
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 7: free to reach out to us. Mike and I are

1013
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 7: always willing to listen and you know, see what.

1014
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 6: We can do.

1015
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: And Mike, what could you say to top off on that?

1016
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: I don't think I could top that, but I'll add

1017
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: to it.

1018
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: And you know, like when I started thinking in the morning,

1019
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 5: it's like, what's the most powerful force and what's the

1020
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 5: most powerful emotion? And the conclusion that I come up

1021
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: with the most powerful emotion out there is hope. So

1022
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 5: we give that hope back to these individuals that feel hopeless.

1023
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: And then the most powerful force out there is love.

1024
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 5: And we love our brothers, we love our tribe, we

1025
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 5: love our network, we love our community, and that's what

1026
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 5: we're trying as a force. That's what we're trying to

1027
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 5: implement into the world.

1028
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: I love that the love, love, empathy. Check on your neighbor.

1029
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: They may be a veteran or not. Just check on them,

1030
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: say hi. If they are a veteran, say hey, how

1031
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: you doing. You're good, next door neighbor, how you doing?

1032
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: You need some cookies?

1033
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: It's okay.

1034
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: It's okay to be neighborly and to have open conversations

1035
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: like this where you know, I've never met Josh, Josh

1036
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: has never met me, and we've just had this conversation

1037
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: cordially on chemical dependency. And I have met Mike before,

1038
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: so I didn't want to use Mike. I wanted to

1039
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: use Josh. But it's true. We can have casual conversations

1040
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: with one another without getting to each other's throats. That's

1041
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say.

1042
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, man, Joshua.

1043
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: Side Joshua sideway, so he's like, what's going on? Listen? Listen.

1044
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: That sounds like that's our cue right there.

1045
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: So with all due regard, go check out task excuse me,

1046
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: trib Task Purpose, Mike Peyton, Josh Reddock, my name is

1047
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: Rad and again, check out the merch store. I got

1048
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: our book club at softwap dot com Forward Slash Book

1049
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: hyphen Club. And if you want to meet also be

1050
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: on the show or you want to reach out, drop

1051
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: me an email at softwap dot com. And big shout

1052
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: out to Brandon Webb, you know, editor and chief author.

1053
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: He's got his new book coming out called Blind Fear,

1054
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: and I'm the voice of the character Finn, the Navy

1055
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: seal that travels around the world in steel fear, cold fear.

1056
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: And we got Blind Fear coming out, so get ready

1057
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: for that. And again my two guests Mike and Josh.

1058
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: Tribe task or task, Tribe task purpose. We're only humans,

1059
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: So thanks so much for being here.

1060
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely thanks, Rad, appreciate it.

1061
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. You're very welcome. Okay, this is Rad

1062
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: say Peace

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