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Speaker 1: Y'all, I got a new buddy, Sean Hoole. His story

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Speaker 1: is incredible, and recently we were at a function. My

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Speaker 1: son and his girlfriend were sitting at a table with

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Speaker 1: two of my friends y'all know, Kathy Leiner and then

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Speaker 1: Delle Stewart. None of them had ever met Shawk, didn't

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Speaker 1: know anything about him. Well, I was kind of co

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Speaker 1: these four folks and I just said, Hey, this is

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Speaker 1: my buddy, Sean Hoole. He was shot in the light

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Speaker 1: of duty. Bye. And as I'm walking off, I hear

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Speaker 1: my son and he's talking to Sean and he's like, dude, like,

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Speaker 1: what in the world is your story scary or a

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Speaker 1: badass one? And I hear Sean say, well, little of both,

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Speaker 1: And at that point I knew that table is going

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Speaker 1: to be just fine. So y'all please help me. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our legend series. Sean. Who Sean? How are you? Honey?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing wonderful. It's so awesome to be on here

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Speaker 2: with you, and I appreciate it so much. I've been

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Speaker 2: looking forward to this.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this is an honor and y'all. All I can

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Speaker 1: tell y'all is hang on because if you want to

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Speaker 1: hear a story that leaves you just full of hope

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Speaker 1: and just being uplifted, this is it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just going to say that means a great

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Speaker 2: deal to hear you say that. Huh. I just certainly

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Speaker 2: hope that's what people take from it, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was February twenty first, twenty twenty one, at

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Speaker 1: about three thirty in the morning. So this particular night,

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Speaker 1: you make a stop, you recognize the person in the car,

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Speaker 1: this particular night, as many people as you've come into

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Speaker 1: contact with when you make this traffic stop, you recognize

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Speaker 1: somebody and it's somebody you've dealt with before. So you're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about your body reacting. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: were like, okay, you're you're familiar.

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Speaker 2: It was an amazing series of circumstances coming together. I

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Speaker 2: truly believe my faith tells me that everything in this

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Speaker 2: life happens for a reason. I do believe that, I

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Speaker 2: really do. I don't think it's it's not a cliche

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Speaker 2: thing that I just say, I really do believe that

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Speaker 2: that's the case. At this time in my career, I'm

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Speaker 2: working at a smaller agency. I started initially working in

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Speaker 2: a smaller agent. See after five years and we'll serving

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Speaker 2: out the last five until this night at a smaller agency.

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Speaker 2: So in smaller agencies you can get this sort of

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Speaker 2: larger agency too, especially when you're a scientist zones or

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Speaker 2: you know, I see this vehicle go by me, and

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Speaker 2: every single one of them is displaying to me the

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Speaker 2: behavior that tells me something is going on. Now, I

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Speaker 2: already was familiar with this inge of the individual's history,

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Speaker 2: so you know, I knew if anything was going on,

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Speaker 2: it was a high probability involved narcotics because he was

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Speaker 2: who he is, as I'm following behind this car looking

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Speaker 2: want to say this, because people get really freaked out

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Speaker 2: about interdiction. They immediately go to, you're just violating people's rights. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no. Understand, interdiction behavior is obviously not a lawful

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Speaker 2: I had dealt with some months prior on this death investigation,

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. So once you get it stopped, what went down?

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Speaker 2: Yep? So I stopped the vehicle. It did a slow

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Speaker 2: know the slow role. If you've ever done the traffic

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Speaker 2: The slow roll means one of two things or three things.

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Speaker 2: The vehicle slow rolls, and I see the front passenger

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Speaker 2: either coming out running, he is either coming out shooting,

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Speaker 2: he sees me. He might not have been twenty five yards,

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Speaker 2: odd because that's not tip. I mean, normally, they just

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Speaker 2: is trained in apprehension. However, being within policy departmental policy,

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Speaker 2: I am not allowed at this point in time to

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Speaker 1: So you're doing the right thing. MM, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: That's how I That's how I operated as a police officer.

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Speaker 2: I did everything by the book always. I always did

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Speaker 2: everything by the book. I always did the right thing

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Speaker 2: from a departmental policy standpoint, but also just from a

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Speaker 2: treat people how you want to be treated. You. You know,

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Speaker 2: I was trying to do the right thing. I knew

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Speaker 2: that could apprehend Quinton in a hot second without me

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Speaker 2: having to put a hand on them, and could have ran,

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Speaker 2: you know, ten times as fast as I could have.

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Speaker 2: But also a big part of being a good canine

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Speaker 2: That's a big liability in the back of your tahoe,

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Speaker 2: He could see the dog, and so anyway, I threatened

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Speaker 2: somebody that's that's pretty pretty serious. That he had no

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Speaker 2: anyway we have this sort of standoff, I don't obviously

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Speaker 2: The track was successful in that it yielded articles of

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Speaker 2: I expected that he had locked the doors of the car,

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Speaker 1: Sean, I just got to say, I know your story.

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Speaker 1: I've heard your story. I've heard you tell it live.

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Speaker 2: There was no doubt in my mind. I saw the

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Speaker 2: chase me down the driveway as I left out for work,

431
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: and or he'd either be standing next to them on

432
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: the front porch. And I would always do the lights

433
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: and the sirens for them when I left out, and

434
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: that was sort of the routine. And I remember when

435
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: I closed my eyes, I saw my wife and kids

436
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: standing in front of me. It was like it wasn't

437
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: even just It's like I felt them. They were there

438
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: I could see my wife and my kids, and it

439
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: looked they looked so real to me standing in front

440
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: of me. It looked like they I had the image,

441
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: the vision of them that that of them standing on

442
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: the front porch seeing me off to work, and they

443
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: looked so real. I literally felt like I could reach

444
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: out and touch them. And I opened my eyes back

445
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: up and there was this energy and this strength, like

446
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: supernatural that just came over my body at the time

447
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 2: that I saw that, and it was like, this is

448
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: not it. This is It's not over. There's still a

449
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: fight here. And I opened my eyes back up and

450
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm not dead yet. And I'm still laying next to

451
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: that Toyota Corolla in between that and those dumpsters and

452
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: that parking lot, and I don't see Quinton right away.

453
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: I start looking for Quinton while I'm laying on the ground,

454
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: and I see him. He's kind of down by my

455
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: feet in that general area, and he's starting to get

456
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: back up because he was still ground level at that point,

457
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: and he's starting to get back up, and I see

458
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: the gun coming up to my head again. He's going

459
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: to execute me. While I was laying on the ground.

460
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: He's raising the gun up to my head again, and

461
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: as I see this gun coming up, I just remember

462
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: I popped up off the ground and it was like

463
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: I hadn't been shot at all. And I reached out

464
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: my left hand to where I saw the gun coming up.

465
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: I felt it hit my palm and I closed and

466
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: I didn't have a lot of strength, but with what

467
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: strength I had, I just jerked it away from my head.

468
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: And when I jerked it away from my head, he

469
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: shot me through the center of my left hand and

470
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: took off my middle finger. I didn't have really any

471
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: energy left in me at that point. That was it

472
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: my wife and my kids, and the Lord gave me

473
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: what I needed to do that and that was about

474
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 2: all I had, and I fell back to the ground

475
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: on my face, and I just remember just waiting for

476
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: somebody to show up, and thinking about my kids, my wife,

477
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: thinking about my eight month old child that wouldn't know

478
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: who I was if I had died, that wouldn't know

479
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: who I was, would have to learn about me by

480
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: pictures and stories. It wasn't long after that that my

481
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: buddies they started showing up. I saw blue and red

482
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: light splashing on the street up above, and they started

483
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: showing up, and I remember them calling out to me,

484
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: and the final thing that I said on the radio

485
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: was I'm dying help. I just remember after I fell

486
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: back to the ground, I keyed up on the radio

487
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: and said I'm dying help.

488
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: And they came as fast as they could, didn't.

489
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: They seventeen seconds after the second time I was shot.

490
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: They believed that that was really the only reason why

491
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: Quinton didn't put a third bullet in me, is because

492
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: they showed up so quickly after the second shot that

493
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: on my body camera apparently it actually shows him light

494
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: me up again with a flashlight on the end of

495
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: my gun, like he was going to shoot me again,

496
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: and about time you see blue and red lights showing

497
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: up on the street up above. And that they believe

498
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: is the only reason he ran off at that point

499
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: in time was because he saw their lights coming down

500
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: the street, or else he probably would have shot me

501
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: a third time.

502
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're hurt bad. Seventy two units of blood.

503
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: The first bullet that struck me in the face, It

504
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: shattered the right side of my face, It ricocheted up,

505
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: it severed my crowded artery at the base of my

506
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: skull and lodged behind my neck. The second bullet that

507
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: went through the center of my left hand blew off

508
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: my middle finger with it. I ended up bleeding out

509
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: over three and a half times. I had to get

510
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: seventy two units of blood, and on top of all that,

511
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: I had a stroke as well. They had to reconstruct

512
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: my face, they had to reconstruct my t ride at artery,

513
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: reconstruct my hand, and we're able to successfully do all

514
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: of that. The stroke was difficult to overcome, but I've

515
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: been able to mostly mostly get back to normal after

516
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: suffering that.

517
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Now, Buddy, people are gonna want to know, tell him

518
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: what was going on with Jack's. Where is he?

519
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: I wore a door popper on my vest that I

520
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: could push a button and pop the door of my

521
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: tahoe open to release Jacks, who is trained in that

522
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: situation to apprehend bite the suspect with no command from

523
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: me whatsoever. I don't have to say a word. He

524
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: just sees somebody fighting me and he bites them. However,

525
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: the door popper functioned malfunctioned, and I could not get

526
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: the door to pop, and so Jack's could not be

527
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: released from my tahoe to come to my aid. He

528
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: had to watch everything happen through the front windshield of

529
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: my tahoe, and that was hell for him to experience that,

530
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: not being able to do what he is born, bred

531
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: and trained to do in that situation.

532
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: Well, I remember something you said to me. You said,

533
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: I love a life of service. I love being called

534
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: during somebody's absolute worst moment of their life to be

535
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: able to help them in some way. Now, sadly you

536
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: had to go ten forty two for the remainder. Tell

537
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: everybody what that means and what happened.

538
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was a very very, very very difficult day.

539
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: I cried a lot.

540
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Admittedly I have watched your video four times. I've cried

541
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: every time.

542
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: So what MATC is talking about there with the ten

543
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: forty two for the remainders is I had to end

544
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: up medically retiring from the job. And so what happens

545
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: when an officer retires off the job is more often

546
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: than not anyway, is they'll call out on the radio

547
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: end of watch essentially. And so ten forty two for

548
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 2: us where I worked, ten forty two was end of shift.

549
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: So ten forty one was the beginning of shift. So

550
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: I you know, before I got on the radio to

551
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: do this. The last time I spoke on the radio

552
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: was to say help, I'm dying. And the next time

553
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: I had to get back on the radio was to

554
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: say that I was retiring. I called K ninety eight

555
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: will be ten forty two, and the dispatcher gave a

556
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: dissertation and spoke about the service to the agency and

557
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: law enforcement career, and it just I could barely get

558
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: the words out with all the crying that I was doing.

559
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that was going to be done. Actually,

560
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: my captain came walking over to me with a radio

561
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: in his hand, and as soon as I saw the

562
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: radio in his hand and he was walking toward me,

563
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: I knew exactly what was going to happen. And I

564
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: immediately started crying and I could could barely hold it together.

565
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: I poured my heart and soul into that job. It

566
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: was just a very tough day to announce that at

567
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: thirty one years old and ten years in, when it

568
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: was something I expected to be announcing at, you know,

569
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: forty eight fifty years old with twenty eight years in,

570
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: and so it was just it was tough. You know,

571
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: the dispatcher gave a dissertation, you know, for the service

572
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: to the community and to the law enforcement in my

573
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: law enforcement career, and also for Jack's as well, because

574
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: they retired Jacks with me. It was just a really

575
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: tough day and that was that was how my my

576
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: law enforcement career officially came to an end. Was calling

577
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: out ten forty two on the radio for the for

578
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: the final time. It's just a bittersweet experience. I was

579
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: thankful to be alive, but it was very tough because

580
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: I poured my heart and soul into that career. I

581
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: loved it so much. I still love it, and so

582
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: it was really, really, really tough to sort of unexpectedly

583
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 2: have to leave it so soon.

584
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: You know, again, that was a powerful video for me

585
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: to watch. And again I knew your story. I've met you,

586
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: we've hung out, But to watch that, it's powerful to me,

587
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: and it just shows exactly the heartache. Of course, you

588
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: are grateful to be alive, but you know you suffered

589
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: several losses in that one event. But I want to

590
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: tell everybody something y'all know, sometimes things happen and you

591
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: just can't ignore it. It is so clear to me

592
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: that you got a message that there ain't no way

593
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: you could ignore it. Because all this happened, you had

594
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: to go through therapy, you had to go through several operations,

595
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: and finally you and your sweet family decide we're going

596
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: to go to the beach and we're going to relax.

597
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: We're just going to be together and enjoy time with

598
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: each other and tell everybody what happened at Myrtle Beach.

599
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there again, everything happens for reasons. So my

600
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: family and I take a vacation to Myrtle Beach and

601
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: riptides are terrible on the coast of North Carolina and

602
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: South Carolina. In this case, we were in South Carolina.

603
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: We're on Myrtle Beach and we're sitting on the beach,

604
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: and of course the cop in me is never gonna leave.

605
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm also medically trained. Where I was I worked for

606
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: em S before I was a cop and fired, and

607
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: in the fire department as well, so I'm always like

608
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: have a heightened sense of awareness, like what's going on

609
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: around me. And so I am scanning the break and

610
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: I see these two guys pulling well, I see a

611
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: bunch of commotion and I see these two guys. It

612
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: looks like they're pulling somebody to the oide. Of the surf,

613
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: and so I see a crowd starting to form. So

614
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: I run over there and uh me and uh it

615
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: was a nurse that happened to be right there as well.

616
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: Uh encounter this this elderly man that got pulled out

617
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: of the surf by these these two younger guys, and

618
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: uh he was blue, uh, very very blue, and not breathing. Uh,

619
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: no pulse, and so we began CPR. Uh the nurse

620
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: was doing compressions. I started doing breath and tandem and

621
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: after a couple of rounds of of the CPR, we

622
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: we Uh he's the fella started to aspirate fluid and uh,

623
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: which is a good sign. And uh we were able

624
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: to get a return of a pulse. Uh so rosk

625
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: and he was not out of the woods by any

626
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: stretch of the imagination. He was still in very, very

627
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: very bad shape at that point. But we got a

628
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: pulse back and uh he started breathing, not well, but

629
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: breathing on his own, and uh the ambulance came, rushed

630
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: him to the hospital and uh that was the last

631
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: I knew, uh that evening or that day, that evening, well,

632
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: the next day we come back to the same general

633
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: area of the beach and I see a lifeguard and

634
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: I said, hey, you know, you know the status of

635
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: that fella from yesterday at the beach. He said, man,

636
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: were you a part of that? And I said, yeah,

637
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: I was doing the breath And he was like, that

638
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: guy's on the beach right now. I s are you

639
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: kidding me? I said, we're talking about the same guy.

640
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, he is on the beach right now,

641
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: and he pointed where in the direction where I could

642
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: find him. So me and my family went walking up

643
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: the beach and sure enough, there he was with his daughters,

644
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: his wife, his grandkids, and just big old smile on

645
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: his face, gives me a big hug, you know, and

646
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: we have this whole, big reunion. It wasn't just me.

647
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Speaker 2: The nurse that was doing compressions was there. The guys

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Speaker 2: that pulled him out of the water was there, and

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Speaker 2: some of the lifeguards were there, and we had this

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Speaker 2: big old reunion on the beach with his family after

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Speaker 2: this man was just pulseless and not breathing, drifting in

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Speaker 2: the water after getting caught in a rip current. And

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Speaker 2: he was back on the beach the next day, and

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Speaker 2: we actually still maintained communication to this day. We exchange

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Speaker 2: numbers and we talk and give updates on how each

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Speaker 2: other is doing and stuff like that. So it was

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Speaker 2: just truly an amazing experience God, you know, putting you

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Speaker 2: in the right place at the right time, And that's

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Speaker 2: what I certainly that's how That's how I feel this

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Speaker 2: life is. I feel like things don't happen for just

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Speaker 2: no reason. I feel like everything happens for a reason,

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Speaker 2: and that being one of those things. There's a reason why.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll never know all the reasons, if there

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Speaker 2: are multiple for why that I lived that night, but

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Speaker 2: one reason I can point to specifically and say, well,

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Speaker 2: if I was not alive, if I did die that night,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been there on the beach along with

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Speaker 2: those other awesome people to do what needed to be

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Speaker 2: done to get this fella back living and breathing, to

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Speaker 2: go on and enjoy his life with his family. So

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Speaker 2: you know, there's one reason right there.

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Speaker 1: Sean, let me tell you something. You can say it

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Speaker 1: another way. Had you not been shot, you would not

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Speaker 1: have been there. I mean, everything does happen for a reason.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you had to go through something so horrific

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Speaker 1: but again look what you did with it well, Sean

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Speaker 1: who I cannot thank you enough for sharing your incredible

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Speaker 1: story and I just want to say again y'all heard

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Speaker 1: it here. He has such an unbelievable, just horrific event

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Speaker 1: where he believed wholeheartedly he was going to die right there,

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Speaker 1: and not only as he saved, he goes on to

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Speaker 1: save somebody else's life when he thought his life of

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Speaker 1: service was over. It's just an incredible story. So Sean,

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Speaker 1: thank you again, honey, y'all on going to end Zone

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Speaker 1: seven the way that I always do with a quote,

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Speaker 1: next to creating a light, the finest thing a man

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Speaker 1: can do is save one. Abraham Lincoln, I'm Cheryl McCollum,

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Speaker 1: and this is his own seven